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It really is incomprehensible to people what it's like to lose

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Maxine. Maxine Hambleton was 18 when she

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died. Maxine loved Slade, she was in love

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with Dave Hall, she had a poster on her bedroom wall.

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She was full of life, funny. She was as sharp as a knife.

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She was murdered in Birmingham almost 40 years ago, and her family

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is still trying to find out who did it.

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I can just see her walking away. It's hard, it's very very hard. To

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think I was the last one in my family to see her alive and the way

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she was... I delivered her to her death.

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Maxine Hambleton didn't die alone. In 1974, 21 people were killed and

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almost 200 others were injured in the Birmingham pub bombings. The

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case remains unsolved. We've been following them since

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January. Maxine's brother, Brian, and her sister, Julie, are setting

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out their stall to demand a fresh investigation and Justice for the 21

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who were killed. Excuse me sir, can I trouble you for

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a signature? It's hard it's very hard.

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They're only yards from the two city centre pubs where the bombs went

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off, and on days like these their small band of supporters really keep

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them going. They really are an incredible group

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of people. Without them, without any shadow Of a doubt, we wouldn't be

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where we are today. The Hambletons want 100,000

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signatures on their petition to show police and politians that Birmingham

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is behind them. `` politicians. It doesn't sound like such a big ask in

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a city of over a million people, but they are still 90,000 short.

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Is this an old story in danger of getting lost in a modern city? We've

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found someone who doesn't need a history lesson. She was there.

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Hello, I'm Maureen, Maureen Mitchell. I was a victim in the

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bombing. Oh my god! Below, it is really nice

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to meet you. Were you in the tavern in the town?

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Yes. Maureen Mitchell was so badly

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injured in the Mulberry Bush pub priests gave her the last rites.

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This is the first time she's met Julie.

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Oh God, you took me by surprise. It's emotional for me because you

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were there. You weren't in the same pub, but...

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You have been through it, literally, and my heart goes out to you.

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Mine does to you. It's different for me because I'm here to tell the

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tale. But you have real`life memories of

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horror. Real horror and terror. 21 people

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died and 182 were injured, but surprisingly few of the families

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affected by the bombings know each other.

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But there are reasons for that. I went through a very bad stage of

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survivor guilt. You do feel guilty that you survived when someone like

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Julie lost someone so close. The IRA has always been blamed for

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the bombings, but never publicly admitted it. Maureen tells a

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different story. We've been to Ireland and been

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involved in the peace programme and we've met ex`terrorists or whatever

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they like to call themselves. And we know some of them have said they'd

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do it again. What he actually said to me was they

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never targeted civilians. When I said, "What about Birmingham?", he

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said that was a mistake. How could it be a mistake? They had

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three bombs, one in one pub, one was in another. The other one didn't go

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off. His actual words, well his actual

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phrase to me was, "The difference between us and Al`Qaeda was we've

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never targeted civillians." it has been a tough conversation to have in

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the streets, but it sounds like this was a good time to have it.

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If I can support Julie in anyway I will and we will stay in touch now

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I'm sure we will. Brian is driving to where he dropped

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his sister off on the night of the bombings.

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Memories follow him through a city that has moved on from the '70s.

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I see it in a different light. I'm kind of stuck in a kind of

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limbo. Tonight the pubs are full again and

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fear of the IRA has gone, but 40 years ago Birmingham was a very

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different place. Irish Republicans were resisting

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British rule in Northern Ireland. Some turned to terrorism, planting

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bombs at home and on the mainland. The West Midlands was hit more than

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30 times in 12 months. Thankfully, there were few casualties, but that

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was about to change. You could never have guessed what

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was going to happen in the next 60 minutes.

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Why would anyone want to kill people like that? Or just kill people? They

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were in a pub. The Mulberry Bush at the foot of

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Birmingham's Rotunda, and the Tavern in the Town basement bar, where

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Maxine was, were blown to pieces. She was one of six children. Julie,

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the youngest, was only 11 when it happened. She has one small box of

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memories. There is a picture of Maxine.

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I think that's a fantastic picture of her because it really captures

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her. Look at her smile. She made that dress herself, bless her.

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Alongside the memories, there is also a suggestion of how her sister

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died. And then I came across this.

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She used to love her bangles, Maxine. She wore lots and lots of

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bangles and these were her rings. I'm not sure, but I think this is

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what she was wearing on the night she was killed, because it's all

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bent and damaged and it's all burnt. Starting the campaign has exposed

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them to harrowing details they were never told as children. Julie thinks

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it's time they were told everything. We don't care how many boxes we have

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to open. Whatever it takes, we will do it, because somebody has got to

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fight for these people who aren't here to fight for themselves.

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News of the campaign is starting to travel, and so must Brian and Julie.

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They are on their way to meet a high`profile supporter.

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Hello. He's waiting for them in Belfast,

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and this will be their first visit to Northern Ireland.

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It's ironic to think that we're having to go to Northern Ireland to

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get movement. In itself, that is odd.

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It is nice to be meeting people at the top, people in power, but we are

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only doing all this for one reason. As far as I'm concerned, I don't

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want to be messed about. That will be my first line. If he can help,

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that will be fantastic, but I'd rather they say so.

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Out of the rain, there's a warm Ulster welcome from the First

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Minister, Peter Robinson. Hello, Mr Robinson.

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I've been reading something of the campaign and ` obviously from a

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Northern Ireland perspective we look very closely ` there was massive

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empathy and sympathy at the time of the bombing itself. He's no friend

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of the IRA. Quite the opposite ` as leader of

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the Democratic Unionists he wants Northern Ireland to remain British.

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The Hambletons haven't come to talk politics, they just want his help.

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I've indicated to the group that if they want to compile a dossier I'll

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put it into the hands of the Prime Minister. I believe that, if the

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Prime Minister looks at the arguments they're putting forward,

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there's every reason why there should be an investigation.

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They're not going to argue with that.

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It was very interesting, very enlightening.

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He listened, he understood, and he has given us some fantastic advice

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and guidance. And he is going to try and help us

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to the top of the tree, to the Prime Minister.

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Belfast has given them a much`needed morale boost.

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They can only wait to see if Mr Robinson delivers on his promise.

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But, back in Birmingham, it's back to business. This campaign never

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stops. It has taken over their lives and their living rooms.

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It is extremely time`consuming. We literally eat, sleep, drink it.

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We dream about it. But why have they left it so long?

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I wasn't strong enough. Grief is a terrible thing, and

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anyone who has lost a loved one, to murder, will know what we're talking

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about. Some people never recover. Ladies and gentlemen! 416 and a half

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years we have been political scapegoats!

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There is another reason the families kept quiet.

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The police told us from the start that they knew we had not done it!

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Six Irish men, jailed for the bombings in 1975, walked free from

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the Court of Appeal after 16 and a half years in prison. Judges ruled

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their 21 murder convictions were unsafe and overturned them.

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I couldn't watch it. As far as we were concerned it was

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Like Maxine had been murdered again. The 1991 Birmingham Six appeal had

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demolished the credibility of the police investigation.

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It was as if all the victims and the survivors were basically made a

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laughing stock of. Justice! I don't think people in

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there have the intelligence nor the honesty to spell the word, never

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mind dispense it! They are rotten! This man is about to take the

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campaign in an unexpected direction. My name is Patrick Joseph Hill, and

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I'm one of the men more commonly known as the Birmingham Six.

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Paddy Hill is the most vocal and recognizable of the Birmingham Six.

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He has been out of prison for 22 years and bares the scars of his own

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battle for justice. The sooner we get the truth, then

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maybe for the living relatives of those who died and for those that

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were injured and are still alive, maybe then there will be some

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closure. But none of us will have closure until we do know the truth.

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He has signed the Hambleton's petition and is a seasoned

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campaigner, but would they want his help? We're about to find out.

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It's like we're going to meet the enemy.

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They hated him for years, and he knows it.

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I want to see the Hambletons, I'm looking forward to it. But I'm still

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a bit apprehensive, you know? I know how I'm going to take them ` it's

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how they're going to take me. From opposite ends of this tragedy,

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the three of them are about to meet in the middle. They're leaving

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Birmingham for another town blown apart by terrorists.

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This is one man of six, who through the years has been vilified and is

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infamous for the death of our sister and 20 other innocent souls.

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We cannot go further forward without doing this.

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I understand how those people feel. They have had years of having

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someone to focus their anger on, and their anger was focused on us. I

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have a similar anger, but my anger is focused on the West Midlands

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Serious Crime Squad. There's many questions I want to ask

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him. I don't know what order I will ask them in. But...

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It is judging him as a character. They've come to Warrington. The Tim

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Parry and Jonathan Ball Peace Centre was built in memory of two young

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boys who were killed when an IRA bomb exploded in the town 20 years

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ago. The charity specializes in bringing people affected by

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terrorism together peacefully. They are experts at handling volatile

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meetings, and with only a door between Paddy and the Hambletons,

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things are tense. Do you want to come in and take a

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seat? Paddy, do you want to stay there a second. Sit down. Hello. I

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just want to start talking for a few moments if I may. I welcome you to

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the centre. Yellow mac I'm glad you're here, face to face, to ask

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you what I'd like to ask you and what we was told by the police, that

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you was the ringleader of the so`called Birmingham Six and that as

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far as I was concerned you killed my sister and all the other 20

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innocent. I understand that, I understand that. You don't have to

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tell me. I know what they said, and let me tell you something. You may

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not believe this, but I have never in my life been asked one question

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by the police about the Birmingham pub bombings. Never? Don't get me

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wrong ` I am Irish, I am green, I am Republican, I would love to see my

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country united, but I had nothing to do with the IRA, and you see, when

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it happened, the cops told us right from the start and the words are

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burned into my brain. They turned round and told us, we know you

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didn't do the bombings. We don't give a BLEEP who did the

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bombings. We've got you and that's good enough for us. Neither side sit

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comfortably, but after two hours some common ground opens up. Do you

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have access to the statements or the trial transcripts, or do your

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solicitors?" i have everything you could think of. Could you make them

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available to us, please? I already told Anthony last night, you can

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have everything because we have it all. I have kept everything. I was

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the one who did all the fighting in jail, I done all the writing but I

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kept every bit. I have a complete set of everything with my

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solicitor's in London. They've been asking the police for that sort of

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access for months. I think I'm quite a good judge of character, and I

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mean, I could be sitting here still thinking you killed my sister, and

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what we've learned? And without going over board, has changed my

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mindset, and that's as far as I'm willing to go. Thank you. A couple

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of hours has barely scratched the surface of the history between them,

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but it has exposed the damage done to both sides. The trauma has taught

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me apart. My mother... My kids ended up in homes and everything. They

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ended up moving house nine Times in 11 years. They did not even know

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what name they were using. My family, you know? The meeting has

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ended hopefully, if not happily. Paddy's offer to help has opened up

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a new channel for the campaign. If we can have access to his papers

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through his solicitors, that would turn everything upside down. Does

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this mean Paddy has won them over? It's the hardest thing I've ever had

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to do. It's still hard for us. It's in everyone's psyche, isn't it, that

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he was the ringleader and he did it, so for us to do what we've done is

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absolutely profound. I feel absolutely numb. I can't believe

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I've just met and spent time with the man I've always been told and

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believed has murdered my sister, but if it wasn't for the fact for my own

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investigation that we've done, which are comparable with what he says to

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us, I couldn't have sat here for the length I time I have done. Put my

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question back in. very intense, but I'm glad we had it

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and hopefully it'll help them understand things better rather than

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just believing everything that they've been told for nearly 40

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years. And also one of the things I said in there to them is you have

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got to get to members of Parliament. We have enough of them in the West

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Midlands to get up and start asking questions. But the police didn't

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find any answers after the second investigation in 1994. We have done

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every possible thing that we can to bring the perpetrators of that crime

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to justice. And the conclusion that has been reached, and I don't need

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to read it to you again, is that there is insufficient evidence for

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proceedings to be taken. If they'd done everything that was humanly

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possible, then how come the perpetrators are still out there

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with their liberty? At the very top of this building, West Midlands

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Police commanders are taking the Hambletons' questions and

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frustrations seriously. No promises have been made but the door to a

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fresh investigation has been opened just a little. We've been gathering

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together all of the material from the investigations that took place

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in 1974, the latter investigations around the Court of Appeal time in

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the late '80s and then the further work that was done in the '90s.

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That's a massive amount of paperwork. A task force from the

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Counter Terrorism Unit has spent the past year piecing it all together at

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a top`secret location. None of this has been shown on television before

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and even now detectives insisted on filming it themselves. I fully

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understand and appreciate, having spoken to them, some of the pain

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they carry, having gone for so long not knowing all of the circumstances

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that surround this case. We'll go where the evidence goes in time and

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we'll go with reinvestigating if that's the right thing to do. If

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there's no hope, then clearly we'll need to make that decision and we'll

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need to explain it. But his predecessors messed up. The

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evidence they gathered was ruled unsafe by the highest court in the

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land. What hope is there? It's very much on record, isn't it, that the

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original work was found to be flawed by the Court of Appeal? The approach

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that was taken to managing families in these types of cases is very

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different today than it was then, and it's right that we have a much

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closer relationship with them. We're definitely doing this because it is

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the right thing to do and it's right that we should be able to answer

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their questions in time." The Hambletons are running out of

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patience with the police. But Paddy's come through with his

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promise and has invited them to his solicitor's office in Camden. If

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they have information that can provide some answers to some of our

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questions, it will be a truly remarkable moment in our campaign

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for justice. They're about to meet someone who

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thinks it's remarkable they've never been shown any evidence. I brought

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back enough boxes that I thought we could get started but I did not want

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to overwhelm you. There are a lot more. The renowned human rights

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lawyer Gareth Peirce got Paddy out of jail and has every scrap of

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paperwork, over 200 Boxes' worth. Maybe this is useful for you to take

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away with you as well, because it helps you keep track of what the

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evidence was. But where do they start? We'd like to know everything.

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We have a right to know everything. The lawyer agrees. I think they have

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a completely reasonable, appropriate, just expectation, and

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that's simply to be told the truth, be given the data that exists.

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That's not a big ask. It looks like they've got a lot of reading to do.

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Thank goodness for Gareth and what Paddy's done to make things

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available to us. It is a very odd alliance, something we would never

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have conceived prior to 12 months ago, but as the old saying goes,

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needs must, and we are ` for want of a better expression ` fighting for

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the same cause, looking for the same answers. Looking for the same

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answers. But should they really be doing their own detective work? The

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police exist to investigate ` they're paid enormous sums, they're

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given enormous resources, they're given exceptional powers over the

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rest of the citizens of this country. They've failed in a

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spectacular way, failed these families in a disgraceful way, and

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so far as I can detect, they haven't owned up to the families the ways in

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which they failed. Let alone any analysis of how they believe they

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might succeed. As the other half of this odd alliance, what does Paddy

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think they should do next? There is some good members of Parliament out

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there, and there is some good police officers as well, and I have no

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doubt that as time goes on, hopefully in the near future

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someone's going to step up and come out with the truth. Let's get it

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done once and for all and hopefully not only for the victims, but it

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will also give us and our families closure. The Hambletons have taken

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some important and difficult steps this year, learning a lot about the

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case and campaigning. If you had told us 24 months ago we were going

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to meet Paddy Hill, we'd have said you were off your rocker.

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The Prime Minister now knows about Justice four The 21. He's reading

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Brian and Julie's dossier, and they expect an update on the police

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review in the new year. The anniversary makes November a

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difficult month, but this year has been about moving forward. I've

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always had the sense that the people in power ` MPs, governments, the

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police ` think that we would probably only last five minutes, but

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we're still here ` we won't go away. I don't know how long I'll be on

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this planet for, but I will be fighting this until the day I die.

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Sign the petition, folks! We need the people of Birmingham to stand

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