Guilty by Association


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Few would argue with the value

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of a law that has secured convictions

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in some of the most notorious murder cases of recent years.

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Almost 19 years after Stephen Lawrence was stabbed to

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death in South London, two men have finally been jailed for his murder.

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Gary Dobson and David Norris were both found guilty,

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although there was no proof that either had delivered the fatal blow.

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The law that convicted them was joint enterprise,

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which holds that a person in a group or gang can be held

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responsible for the criminal acts of others.

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Kids need to know today that

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if they're going to get involved in gangs and gang crime,

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then they can be found as much guilty for being there

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as actually committing the crime.

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Rising incidents of gun and knife crime have put

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pressure on successive governments to take tough action on gangs.

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Where there is a need for new laws, we will pass them.

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Where there is a need for tougher enforcement,

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we will make sure that happens.

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For too long, there's been a lack of focus

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on the complete lack of respect shown by these groups of thugs.

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Joint enterprise, a 300-year-old law,

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has proved a highly effective weapon in this fight.

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But there is a growing unease within the legal profession that

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it's being too widely applied.

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There's a very clear public policy that the gang violence problem

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is a serious one, and it is. Politicians are quite right.

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They have to deal with public concerns. And so does the law.

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What we don't know is whether the cost of doing that is

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people are being convicted of things that they haven't done.

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-What's happening later, then?

-We'll be on till late this afternoon.

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It's really hard. What do you think, Mum?

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I'm not getting too optimistic, but...

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..I don't want him to get really down.

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Sally Halsall, her husband Jeff

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and daughter Charlotte are a family struggling to deal with

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the news that Sally's son Alex has been involved in a serious crime.

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'Detectives are continuing to search for the killers of a'

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22-year-old man stabbed to death in a busy shopping area of West London.

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It was a Friday night

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and we got a call from a police station to say that they

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had my son and he wanted to talk to me and he was very, very distressed.

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The most distressed I've ever heard him.

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And he told me that he had been arrested for murder.

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Alex Henry had been involved in a street fight,

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in which one of his friends had used a concealed knife to stab two

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brothers, killing 21-year-old Taqui Khezihi.

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Following his arrest, Alex Henry was charged with joint enterprise

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murder, along with three other boys.

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Did you know about joint enterprise?

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I knew there was a law where a group of people,

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one of them may commit the crime,

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but the others are egging them on and they knew he was going to do it and

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they supported him, encouraged him to do it, then that is joint enterprise.

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And I agree with that law.

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If my son was murdered, I would want the murderer to be charged

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and to be sentenced for murder.

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If the group of people that were with him had planned it

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and intended on doing it with him, then I would agree with that law.

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But I would not want people in that situation,

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peripheral of that situation,

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or involved where both groups were fighting and...I would want each

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and every boy to be charged with what they did.

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The use of joint enterprise raises the question - how far should

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a person be held responsible for the unexpected actions of others?

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In August 2011, Wayne Collins, a 24-year-old barber from Luton,

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was about to fall foul of the law.

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He was in Birmingham for Carnival when the riots broke out.

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Let me explain to you about that night.

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The CCTV footage shows my nephew

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didn't hurt anybody,

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he didn't pick anything up, he didn't throw anything.

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All he was, was there.

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What CCTV footage also showed, however,

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was that Collins was in the crowd

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when a hooded figure produced a gun and fired it towards the police.

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Later that night,

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he was arrested and charged with possession of a firearm.

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-Officer...

-Yeah.

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-Are they trying to say that I had a firearm?

-Yeah.

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-From where, though?

-Nobody's going to talk to you.

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-So, if you've got any questions, ask them in your own mind.

-Uh?

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'You do something wrong, yes, you should be punished for it.

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'My nephew did nothing.'

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He knew one person, who happened to be related to another person.

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Whether or not they were doing something, I don't know.

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But why should you be punished for their actions?

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The case against Wayne Collins was that

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while he was in Birmingham, he'd met up with Jermaine Lewis,

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whose cousin, Nicholas Francis,

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was later convicted of using the firearm that night.

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The police claimed that this association meant me

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must have known about the gun and foresaw how it was going to be used.

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-A gun?

-The fact that he may have known is speculative

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because this other guy's got a gun, he must have known he had it...

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Well, there's nothing to base that on.

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Must have known he was going to shoot it police,

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rather than in the air, there's no evidence of that.

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It's all complete speculation.

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But that's the way that joint enterprise works.

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How can you prove that someone knowingly knows what somebody

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else is thinking?

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-What's your occupation?

-I'm a barber.

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'His problem was that he was not good at giving his account.'

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He was completely out of his depth.

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He was in Birmingham with people he didn't know.

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They were all members of serious gangs.

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So when Wayne was arrested, I think he was frightened of saying

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things and he gave a story which wasn't true to the police.

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-What are you doing in Birmingham?

-Meeting a girl.

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-At one o'clock in the morning?

-Well, obviously...

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The guys smash up the girl's windows and they're chasing me.

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What can you do? The girl's drove off and left me.

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What do you want me to do?

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'Because he would had to name the people he was with,'

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that would have linked them with him

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and he was actually found at the scene and they weren't.

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On that basis, he wasn't believed and he was convicted.

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Although there was no evidence that Collins had seen or touched

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the gun, he was found guilty of possession of a firearm with

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intent to endanger life and sent to prison for 18 years.

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18 years is excessively long for somebody who has not

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participated and is based purely on inference

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and speculation as to what Wayne may have known.

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Concerns about joint enterprise are echoed at the highest

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level of the legal establishment

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and have led one recently retired senior judge to take the

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unusual step of publicly criticising the way the law is being used.

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Let's take a murder case.

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A person can't normally be convicted of murder unless he intended

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to kill or intended to cause serious, very serious, bodily harm.

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But in joint enterprise,

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instead of having to intend to kill someone, it's enough if he foresaw

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that someone might be killed, but it's a very low threshold.

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You can think of many situations in your life where you foresee

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that something might happen, but you certainly don't intend it to happen,

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in any way at all.

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Whatever their misgivings, judges are obliged by law to impose

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life sentences on anyone convicted of joint enterprise murder.

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Alex Henry has been on remand for five months and is discovering

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how difficult it is to fight a charge under joint enterprise.

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He was speaking to the solicitor and the solicitor was like, "Joint

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enterprise murder is 25 years," and he was just like, "But how?

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"I didn't know there was a knife." And he went, "Yeah, I know.

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"But they're going to try and prove that you knew there was a knife,"

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and he was like, "But how do they know what I'm thinking?

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"How am I looking now at 25 years for shopping with someone that may

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"or may not have had a knife?"

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We spoke to the barristers yesterday and they were really helpful.

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'What was their perspective on the case as it stands at the moment?'

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We asked them that.

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We said, "Roughly, what do you think?" And they said, "50-50."

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I mean, when I came out of that meeting, I thought -

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things are getting worse.

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I had a secret hope we'd go in there and they'd say,

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"Listen, he's clearly innocent. The jury will know he's innocent.

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"He probably won't even get anything."

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The person that did commit the murder, I believe, will be

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denying it, so without any independent witnesses seeing

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a knife, none of the boys that

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didn't do it, seeing a knife, who's to know who actually had this knife?

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Who's to know who committed it?

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-So I think that's our first task of them finding it...

-Who did it.

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Well, we know who done it, but the jury seeing who done it.

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And then, second to that, proving that the other three

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co-defendants didn't know about the knife.

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The effectiveness of joint enterprise in securing

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multiple convictions for a single crime was

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demonstrated following the murder of Ben Kinsella in 2008.

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'This CCTV shows the events immediately before Ben's death.

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'His acquaintances are being chased up an Islington

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'street by the defendants.'

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Three men were charged with the killing

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and although it was never proved which one of them stabbed Ben,

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using joint enterprise, they were all found guilty of murder.

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All three of them knew what they were doing. They came armed with knives.

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He was stabbed... Within five seconds, he was stabbed 11 times.

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So...

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Yeah, I hold them all responsible.

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Not one of them tried to stop the other two from doing it.

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Not one of them assisted my son while he was bleeding on the floor.

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There was none of that.

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So...as far as I'm concerned, they're all culpable for it.

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Without joint enterprise, probably maybe one or maybe even

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two of them would still be walking the streets today.

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The public demonstration which followed Ben's death

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reflected wide support for the principle that all those involved

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in a murder, however peripherally, should be held to account.

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If a gang of kids or men or whatever want to go out

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and commit these sort of crimes, then they've got to know that

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if they are part of it or involved in it,

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then they're going to be held responsible.

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In 2010, 16-year-old Nicholas Pearton was stabbed to

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death in a South London street.

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The police need to stop this. Do you know what I mean?

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Before all of our children die. You know?

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Parents aren't meant to bury their children. You know?

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And to see the state of his mother last night, well,

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she was just literally uncontrollable.

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Nine teenagers were eventually charged with his murder.

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The prosecuting counsel was Edward Brown.

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There was a dreadful killing in May 2010.

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A young boy was chased across a park, across a road,

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stabbed in the middle of the road by one person.

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He received a stab wound to his back.

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It proved fatal, within seconds.

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The trigger for the murder was a school gate confrontation between

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two boys from the Grove Park area and two boys from nearby Sydenham.

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Nothing serious happened. No blows were exchanged.

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And the boys from Grove Park went back home,

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to their various homes,

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and a plan was said to be hatched to travel to the Sydenham area

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and mark this disrespect by finding

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and probably chasing the Sydenham boys and showing them that they

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can't get away with just doing this at the school gates.

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The group from Grove Park travelled by bus

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and met the Sydenham boys in the park on their home turf.

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The Sydenham gang ran away, only to return a few minutes later,

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brandishing weapons.

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There was a brief stand-off and no blows were exchanged, but as it

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finished, Nicholas Pearton found himself isolated from his friends.

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He was chased out of the park and into Sydenham Road,

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where he was stabbed once in the back.

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He died in the doorway of a shop, protecting

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himself from another person who was seeking to attack him further.

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The case was heard at the Old Bailey in January 2011.

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Although only one boy had stabbed Nicholas Pearton,

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nine were charged with his murder.

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Joint enterprise, it's called. It's not a statutory definition.

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It's an ordinary expression.

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The public, I suspect, would approve of a secondary party,

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not the stabber or the shooter,

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but the secondary party being convicted of a serious crime,

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if they were participating, by for example,

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encouraging the gunman or the knifeman.

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Of the boys charged with murder,

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only three were in the street at the time of the stabbing.

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The rest were scattered over the area where the fight had

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taken place.

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One of them, 15-year-old Joseph Jay,

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claimed to be at the other end of the park.

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I've described the law of joint enterprise as a drift net.

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You drop your drift net into the ocean

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and you pull out all sorts of fish, big and small,

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and you hope that someone's going to chuck the small fish back in before

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it's too late, but you can never be sure that's going to happen.

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-That looks like it's reversing...

-Let the car through.

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Oh, I see.

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Alex Henry's family have been given CCTV footage by his lawyers,

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showing the lead up to the fight.

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They're viewing it for the first time.

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-OK, so that's the...

-They're going to the car.

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The confrontation happening down there, so there's four now.

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And now, they're... He's trying to split it up.

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-Trying to pull him away.

-Yeah, he's...

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It's very, very clear that he's trying to stop them from fighting.

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-Yeah.

-One of them. And that's one of the friends of my son.

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The boy doing his best to break up the fight is Younis Tayyib.

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He's one of the four on remand for the murder.

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-Oh... Gosh, he is trying hard, isn't he?

-Mm.

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The boy behind Younis, carrying the bottle,

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is another of Alex's co-defendants, Janhelle Grant-Murray.

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OK, so now they're coming around the corner.

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My son isn't here in this at all.

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They go round there, I think.

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Alex, who had been shopping with his friend Cameron Ferguson,

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runs into the altercation when he sees Younis

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-and Janhelle on the other side of the road.

-There.

-There they are.

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They're running there now

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because they're running really fast cos they've seen their friends.

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The fight, which lasts less than 45 seconds, takes place

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in an area not covered by CCTV cameras.

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The first boy to leave the fight is carrying what later proved to

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be the fatal weapon.

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There he is. Stop. There. Now. See?

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-This is the bag, here.

-And it's sticking out...

-It's sticking out!

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A plastic bag doesn't stick out like that,

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unless it's got something in it that is long.

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The running boy,

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who confessed later that day to the other three that he'd used

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a concealed knife in the fight, is the 19-year-old Cameron Ferguson.

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'Do you feel that there's been enough emphasis on finding which of

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'the four were actually responsible for stabbing the victim?'

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No. I think they just want to put them all in the frame.

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They're all there.

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They know one of the four did it and as they are allowed to,

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under joint enterprise, they can scoop them all up in one go.

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They don't have to find out, really, who out of the four did it.

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Makes their job easier, really, doesn't it?

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Two years after his conviction for possession of a firearm,

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Wayne Collins' appeal is being heard at the Royal Courts of Justice.

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We appealed against the conviction,

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but it's difficult to appeal against a conviction because you have

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to show there is some error in the judge's summing up.

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There must be error of law.

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On the 18 years, our case was this is disproportionate for somebody

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who is described as playing no active role in the event.

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Deborah Taylor, Wayne's aunt, has been

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fronting the family's campaign for his release.

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I've come out here today to the Royal Courts of Justice a lot more

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confident in the justice system than what

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I felt two-and-a-half years ago on the trial.

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There is a way that, you know, with persevering and campaigning,

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we can get this sentence reduced.

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That's great. That's all I need from you.

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It went really well. James dusted them.

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James said the judge misled them. How he delivered it, Mum, was amazing.

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Amazing! Amazing!

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-'Is the family hopeful?'

-We are, yeah. We are.

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Reduction in sentence. You know?

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Definitely. So, yeah, it's good. Happy. There's hope.

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And at the end of the day, thank God there's an appeal court.

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Wayne Collins' family will now have to wait

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until the ruling is handed down by the judges.

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This picture of my daughter

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and my brother was taken about nine months ago in jail.

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As you can see, she loves him a lot.

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And he looks completely different to his mugshot.

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We just thought, tops, they'll hold him three days,

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and he'll come home and we'll go through it together

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till we get to court,

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but as the days went on, the weeks, the months,

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we started thinking, "What's going on?"

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And then we realised that he was

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probably going to get an example made of him...

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-Yeah.

-..but didn't think it was going to be 18 years.

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He's involved in everybody in our family and our lives,

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so somebody being taken away for 18 years, you know,

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in a very small involvement of a crime.

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I don't see the justice in that, as his father.

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The main thing that comes to mind is Alex is very kind and sweet.

0:20:460:20:51

He's the only one, really, out of all of my family

0:20:510:20:54

that can tell if I'm upset just at a glance.

0:20:540:20:56

He'll just come in and I'll be looking away and he'll be,

0:20:560:20:58

"What's happened? What's happened? Are you OK?"

0:20:580:21:01

He's very protective of, like, his family, and especially me and my mum.

0:21:010:21:06

He's really smart, as well.

0:21:060:21:08

When we were younger, he was really, really good at maths.

0:21:080:21:13

He flourished at school.

0:21:130:21:16

The teachers told me he was outstanding.

0:21:160:21:19

But then he developed what they classified him as having ADHD

0:21:190:21:22

and he couldn't sit still in the classroom.

0:21:220:21:24

They perceived that to be aggression and bad behaviour,

0:21:240:21:28

when actually it's a child who needs to be reassured

0:21:280:21:32

and needs a safe environment. He was expelled when he was 11.

0:21:320:21:37

Once you're kicked out of school,

0:21:370:21:38

you're sent to these alternative provisions.

0:21:380:21:41

No child that likes education is actually going to want to go

0:21:410:21:43

to one of these things, cos it's not really teaching,

0:21:430:21:46

it's just a place for them to be off the street.

0:21:460:21:48

I did feel like I was losing him.

0:21:510:21:53

I was losing him to his friends and I didn't know who they were.

0:21:530:21:56

He seemed to have a whole world that he was involved in

0:21:560:21:59

when I was at work and he wasn't at school.

0:21:590:22:02

This... It was an incredibly difficult, impossible situation.

0:22:020:22:08

I've read books and articles and no-one ever talks about it,

0:22:080:22:11

because people are ashamed.

0:22:110:22:13

They're ashamed to say that, "I lost control of...of my child."

0:22:130:22:17

Seven months after his arrest,

0:22:240:22:26

Alex Henry's trial has started at the Old Bailey.

0:22:260:22:29

All four co-defendants are pleading not guilty to charges of murder

0:22:290:22:34

and attempted murder.

0:22:340:22:36

The prosecution case is that each of them played a part

0:22:360:22:39

in a joint attack on Taqui Khezihi and his brother -

0:22:390:22:42

each knew about a knife and intended it would be used to stab.

0:22:420:22:46

On the fifth day of the trial, there is a dramatic development.

0:22:480:22:51

The judge called all the boys back in and asked Cameron Ferguson his plea.

0:22:510:22:56

Again, for both counts of murder and GBH with intent

0:22:560:23:01

and he pleaded guilty to both counts.

0:23:010:23:04

We are very pleased that the person who did it has been honest enough

0:23:040:23:08

and courageous enough, without any family around him to support him,

0:23:080:23:12

to hold up his hands and say that it was him.

0:23:120:23:15

It gives all of the families peace of mind to know that

0:23:150:23:18

that knowledge is out there now.

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So that's really positive.

0:23:210:23:23

However, we're still proceeding with the trial,

0:23:230:23:26

because they're still trying to get the three other boys

0:23:260:23:29

in on the murder, as well.

0:23:290:23:31

They're going to seek to prove that they knew about the knife.

0:23:310:23:34

We know that that can't be proven,

0:23:340:23:35

but they're going to seek to prove it nonetheless

0:23:350:23:38

and we've just got to pray that the jury see the truth.

0:23:380:23:41

Despite the change of plea,

0:23:450:23:47

Alex's family are concerned that the jury will not be impressed

0:23:470:23:51

by his behaviour immediately after the fight.

0:23:510:23:54

He knew the police were looking for him,

0:23:540:23:56

but wanted to avoid arrest for three days

0:23:560:23:59

so he could attend his pregnant girlfriend's first scan.

0:23:590:24:02

And even though by this time Cameron had told him he'd used a knife,

0:24:030:24:07

the two of them went to hide out in a friend's flat in Croydon.

0:24:070:24:11

He got to Croydon and news reports start coming in

0:24:110:24:15

and he eventually realises there's been a fatality.

0:24:150:24:18

Alex calls me and he says,

0:24:180:24:20

"Look, Charlotte, my girlfriend's pregnant. Now, you need to pick me up

0:24:200:24:24

"and you need to take me and her to the scan."

0:24:240:24:26

I'm very excited, I'm... I was lost at the word "pregnant".

0:24:260:24:30

I'm like "What's Mum going to say? I'm so excited." And he goes,

0:24:300:24:34

"No, no, Charlotte, you must listen to the rest I've got to tell you.

0:24:340:24:37

"Something really bad has happened.

0:24:370:24:40

"I can't tell you what it is, because I don't want you to get in trouble,

0:24:400:24:43

"but you need to pick me up, you need to take me to the scan

0:24:430:24:46

"and then you need to take me to the solicitors

0:24:460:24:49

"and then take me to the police station."

0:24:490:24:50

So I planned to pick him up on the Friday,

0:24:500:24:53

but unfortunately on the Thursday night Alex is arrested.

0:24:530:24:57

For every family that sees joint enterprise as a threat

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to the liberty of their loved ones,

0:25:020:25:04

there are others who believe it was their only way of securing justice.

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That's Umar.

0:25:090:25:11

(RAPS) And if we had nothing we'd eat with bare hands

0:25:140:25:16

And I'm not going to lie I do have bear's hands

0:25:160:25:19

It's a hot day and I hear a glass break

0:25:190:25:21

Then I find a fast way to pass...

0:25:210:25:23

Umar Tufail was forging a music career

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when he was murdered in a drive-by shooting in 2012.

0:25:260:25:31

INDISTINCT

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That's it, cut.

0:25:350:25:36

-Just one of the...

-So full of life.

-He was, wasn't he?

-And fun.

0:25:410:25:47

-He was.

-Do you know? Sometimes, I do believe in the death penalty.

0:25:490:25:53

Because they took more than just his life, they destroyed Saj's,

0:25:530:25:57

his family's, his girlfriend's, any chance of ever having kids.

0:25:570:26:03

It's...it's extremely difficult.

0:26:030:26:06

Our lives will never be the same again.

0:26:060:26:08

Umar was sitting in his car outside his home here in Thornton Heath

0:26:080:26:12

when Daley and Thomas drove up alongside him.

0:26:120:26:15

They pulled out a gun and shot him once at point-blank range.

0:26:150:26:18

There was one shooter. But there were two people involved from the offset.

0:26:180:26:22

There was a lot of CCTV footage of the two lads together.

0:26:220:26:26

The accomplice was in the car.

0:26:260:26:29

He saw the shooter take out the gun and he admittedly said that

0:26:290:26:33

when the person who shot my son pulled out the gun,

0:26:330:26:36

he leaned back to make room for him to carry out his horrendous crime.

0:26:360:26:42

In my mind, I knew that they both were equally responsible.

0:26:420:26:45

So I think having joint enterprise really does

0:26:450:26:49

give you that peace of mind,

0:26:490:26:50

although I'll never be happy that my son has gone,

0:26:500:26:53

but at least we managed to convict both people

0:26:530:26:56

who were guilty of the crime that they committed.

0:26:560:26:59

RAP MUSIC PLAYS

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Since the death of Umar, Saj has been on a mission

0:27:060:27:10

to warn young people about the dangers of gang crime.

0:27:100:27:13

The shooter got 25 years.

0:27:160:27:19

The accomplice, 22 without any parole.

0:27:190:27:24

These are two young men who had a life ahead of themselves.

0:27:240:27:27

Not only have they taken my son's life,

0:27:270:27:30

but they've also destroyed theirs.

0:27:300:27:32

So joint enterprise is there for a purpose

0:27:320:27:36

and it's there for a purpose when people are involved from the offset.

0:27:360:27:39

Thanks for listening.

0:27:390:27:41

CLAPPING

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Is there a way to honestly prove to a court that you did not know

0:27:470:27:51

if your friend was going to commit a crime?

0:27:510:27:53

You know that you didn't know, but you might not be able to prove it.

0:27:530:27:56

That's the problem. That's why people get sentenced when they can't prove it.

0:27:560:27:59

It's the circumstances. It's the way the thing is set, isn't it?

0:27:590:28:02

You live in Loughborough,

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I live in Loughborough, they ain't going to believe us.

0:28:040:28:06

You, you're from Loughborough,

0:28:060:28:08

I went to the same school as David Cameron

0:28:080:28:10

and I grew up with him and I'm in a car with you

0:28:100:28:12

and I didn't know, they'll believe you. It's the circumstances.

0:28:120:28:16

It's where you come from, at the end of the day.

0:28:160:28:19

Even in your situation, you get me?

0:28:190:28:21

The sad thing is that guy that was in the car, what's he going to do?

0:28:210:28:24

Sit in the passenger side and keep his head there?

0:28:240:28:26

Man was going to fire, you're going to move back anyway.

0:28:260:28:29

If you're in the car with me, and I pull out a gun

0:28:290:28:31

and go to shoot someone, you'll move.

0:28:310:28:33

The thing is, someone has to make a stand and say,

0:28:330:28:35

"What you did there was wrong." I can understand where you're coming from,

0:28:350:28:38

you don't want to snitch on someone.

0:28:380:28:40

But equally when are we going to stop doing this?

0:28:400:28:43

There are young children dying almost every day.

0:28:430:28:45

We don't live in a country where there's a civil war.

0:28:450:28:49

Do we? So someone has to stand up and say,

0:28:490:28:52

"This isn't the way to do it. We've got to make a stand

0:28:520:28:55

"and we've got to stop this."

0:28:550:28:57

I can't do it. It has to come from you guys.

0:28:570:28:59

Let me ask you this question -

0:28:590:29:02

do you think that the joint enterprise

0:29:020:29:04

is convicting innocent people?

0:29:040:29:06

-Yeah.

-Yeah. 110%.

-110%?

-110%.

0:29:060:29:10

Definite. Definitely. It is.

0:29:100:29:12

We know that joint enterprise will exist, it's not perfect.

0:29:120:29:16

Because it's very clear that the innocent can be taken down

0:29:160:29:19

with the guilty quite easily.

0:29:190:29:20

But at the moment there's high crime, there's areas

0:29:200:29:23

where things are happening, and we know what the police is going to do.

0:29:230:29:26

They are only interested in one thing -

0:29:260:29:28

getting you, taking you down, putting you inside

0:29:280:29:30

and the taxpayers' money paying for you whilst you're inside.

0:29:300:29:32

Money's being made, millions is being made, yeah?

0:29:320:29:36

And you're not seeing none of it. All right. OK, thank you very much.

0:29:360:29:40

Listen, there is... You guys, go and get yourself pizzas and food...

0:29:400:29:44

Alex Henry's trial is into its third week

0:29:510:29:54

and it's his turn to take the stand and give his evidence.

0:29:540:29:58

Alex will be...nervous this morning. I'm nervous.

0:29:580:30:04

Yeah, I think we all are.

0:30:040:30:07

Hopefully it'll be over by Friday.

0:30:090:30:12

Then we've just got the horrible wait

0:30:120:30:14

-and that's going to be horrendous.

-Yeah.

0:30:140:30:16

I hope he doesn't faint when he's on the stand.

0:30:180:30:21

He's fainted before, hasn't he, Charlotte?

0:30:210:30:24

It's horrible,

0:30:240:30:26

sometimes you hear them screaming going down to the cells, don't you?

0:30:260:30:29

What? Yelling stuff?

0:30:290:30:30

Yeah. That must be if they get a bad sentence or something.

0:30:300:30:33

The other day, it was someone making a real noise. I know.

0:30:330:30:36

Alex spends two days in the witness box.

0:30:460:30:49

On the second day, he's cross-examined by the prosecution.

0:30:490:30:53

Sometimes it's said,

0:30:530:30:54

"Well, how does a defendant prove he didn't know the person had a knife?"

0:30:540:30:59

Of course, that is exceptionally difficult.

0:30:590:31:02

I think everybody should understand that proving lack of knowledge

0:31:020:31:07

is not altogether easy for a young man in the witness box

0:31:070:31:11

at the Old Bailey.

0:31:110:31:12

So how do you think he did on the witness stand?

0:31:160:31:19

He did really good.

0:31:190:31:21

Really good.

0:31:210:31:23

His evidence that he gave was flawless,

0:31:230:31:25

it was just everything that had been said in his original statement

0:31:250:31:29

and everything he says is then also said by these other co-defendants,

0:31:290:31:35

they all say the exact same story.

0:31:350:31:37

And considering they've never been allowed to speak together,

0:31:370:31:40

they've been in separate prisons, they've been in separate cells,

0:31:400:31:43

they are not allowed to talk to each other.

0:31:430:31:46

You can't come up with stories that perfect and have them as lies.

0:31:460:31:52

So it couldn't have gone better, really.

0:31:520:31:55

In June 2011, the jury reached their verdicts in the trial

0:32:030:32:07

of those accused of Nicholas Pearton's murder.

0:32:070:32:10

Seven teenage killers were sentenced to a total of 74 years in jail today

0:32:100:32:15

for the murder of a 16-year-old in broad daylight.

0:32:150:32:18

What the youth of today need to understand,

0:32:180:32:20

that small minority that do carry knives

0:32:200:32:23

are actually in a group with knives.

0:32:230:32:25

It isn't the one that delivers the fatal blow

0:32:250:32:28

that will suffer consequences and punishment at court,

0:32:280:32:31

it'll be also those that actually are with him, as well.

0:32:310:32:35

Seven boys were found guilty of homicide offences -

0:32:350:32:39

four for manslaughter and three for murder.

0:32:390:32:42

Dale Green was the stabber

0:32:420:32:44

and Lamarr Gordon, who was alongside him in the chase,

0:32:440:32:47

was held to be the gang leader.

0:32:470:32:50

CCTV footage showed the two of them shaking hands

0:32:500:32:53

shortly after the stabbing.

0:32:530:32:55

The third boy convicted of murder was 15-year-old Joseph.

0:32:570:33:01

My client, Joseph, was at the opposite end of the park

0:33:030:33:06

when the stabbing happened.

0:33:060:33:08

And we showed that because there was a 999 call at the time from a

0:33:080:33:12

witness who was quite clear in her description of a boy with sunglasses.

0:33:120:33:16

My client was wearing sunglasses,

0:33:160:33:18

because he has an eye condition.

0:33:180:33:20

You can't beat hard evidence, which is the timing of the call

0:33:200:33:25

to when Joseph exits the park, the CCTV real-time

0:33:250:33:29

and if you collect all that together,

0:33:290:33:32

it works out that Joseph was 220m away

0:33:320:33:35

whilst Lamarr Gordon and Dale Green had exited the park.

0:33:350:33:38

30 seconds later, as Joseph comes out of the park,

0:33:380:33:42

Nicholas Pearton was already dead.

0:33:420:33:44

So what was the prosecution case against him?

0:33:440:33:48

The prosecution relied on the fact that Joseph's DNA was on a knife

0:33:480:33:53

that had been found afterwards.

0:33:530:33:56

Joseph accepted that he had picked up two knives in the park

0:33:560:34:01

after they had been discarded by the other group.

0:34:010:34:04

Now you might think that sounds quite ludicrous,

0:34:040:34:07

but the prosecution witnesses

0:34:070:34:10

describe the other group discarding weapons in the park.

0:34:100:34:13

Although neither of the knives that Joseph picked up

0:34:140:34:16

was the murder weapon,

0:34:160:34:18

this was enough to show he knew that knives were present.

0:34:180:34:23

It was then up to the jury to decide whether he foresaw

0:34:230:34:26

that they might be used by someone else to cause serious harm.

0:34:260:34:29

The use of joint enterprise in theory doesn't dilute the usual principles

0:34:310:34:36

of the prosecution having to prove their case

0:34:360:34:39

and having to make the jury sure.

0:34:390:34:42

But what it does is it places an enormous burden on a jury

0:34:420:34:45

to read the minds of defendants,

0:34:460:34:49

who are themselves required to read the minds of other defendants.

0:34:490:34:54

And I think that's a burden

0:34:540:34:56

that probably they shouldn't have to carry.

0:34:560:34:58

Of course, we are told anything can happen,

0:34:580:35:02

a jury can deliver any verdict.

0:35:020:35:06

No guarantee, anything not 100% but we still believed,

0:35:060:35:12

because he didn't have an intention to harm anyone. He should be OK.

0:35:120:35:17

So I still remember at the moment... that one of the jury stood up

0:35:170:35:23

and delivered the verdict to my son.

0:35:230:35:27

I'll never forget it. I'll never forget it, that moment.

0:35:280:35:32

Everything changed.

0:35:320:35:34

The jury found Joseph guilty of murder,

0:35:380:35:40

while concluding that the boy who fly kicked the door

0:35:400:35:43

moments after the attack was not guilty of the same charge.

0:35:430:35:47

He was convicted of the lesser offence of manslaughter.

0:35:470:35:51

I can only think that the jury concluded he

0:35:510:35:55

had a lesser degree of knowledge

0:35:550:35:58

of the knife than the other boy, who had a knife himself.

0:35:580:36:05

Because of his age,

0:36:060:36:07

Joseph's life sentence had a reduced minimum tariff.

0:36:070:36:11

But it will still be 12 years before he can apply for parole.

0:36:110:36:15

Such an intelligent boy.

0:36:150:36:17

He's spending... Effectively, he won't be released...

0:36:170:36:21

At the earliest, he won't be released until he's 30.

0:36:210:36:25

He was a 15-year-old boy at the time, with great prospects.

0:36:250:36:28

Hands down, he's guilty of violent disorder,

0:36:280:36:31

but he's certainly not guilty of murder.

0:36:310:36:33

He wasn't to know Dale Green was going to do what he did.

0:36:330:36:36

Where's the foresight? You can't foresee that at all.

0:36:360:36:39

So I think it's a rather unfair...

0:36:390:36:41

And this case has been troubling me for some years now.

0:36:410:36:45

I think the public generally feel that you should be found guilty

0:36:450:36:48

in a criminal court for what you've done

0:36:480:36:50

or encouraged or participated in.

0:36:500:36:52

And this is such stretched participation, across the extent

0:36:520:36:56

of this park that day that he serves life for murder at the same time

0:36:560:37:00

as the boy who chased down the road and stabbed him?

0:37:000:37:03

In the final week of Alex Henry's trial,

0:37:200:37:22

the prosecution sum up their case against him.

0:37:220:37:26

-How did you feel watching that?

-Angry. Really angry.

0:37:260:37:29

Yeah, things that have already been disproved in court,

0:37:320:37:37

are now being presented as facts to the jury again,

0:37:370:37:40

even though they've been disproved.

0:37:400:37:42

For example, now they are alluding to the fact

0:37:430:37:47

that despite there has been a confession by one of the boys

0:37:470:37:50

as to being the primary...the stabber,

0:37:500:37:54

they're now trying to place my brother as another stabber,

0:37:540:38:01

primarily the killer.

0:38:010:38:03

Even though that the top he was found in didn't have any

0:38:030:38:06

of the victim's blood on it, the boy that's confessed

0:38:060:38:09

had an item which had the victim's blood on it.

0:38:090:38:11

The witnesses have said that the boy that's confessed was the one

0:38:110:38:14

that committed the stabbing.

0:38:140:38:16

You're certainly not going to say that you're guilty of murder

0:38:160:38:19

and GBH with intent unless you were the stabber on those two occasions,

0:38:190:38:24

where one person died and the other person was injured.

0:38:240:38:27

They're trying to say, "He wasn't! He didn't do it.

0:38:270:38:30

"He was just saying he was party to the group,

0:38:300:38:32

"that's why he pleaded guilty and someone else did it,"

0:38:320:38:35

and they're trying to say it was my son.

0:38:350:38:37

Well, over my dead body are they going to get away with that

0:38:370:38:39

and I will fight and I will carry on fighting for him.

0:38:390:38:42

I studied law at Brunel University, so during one of the criminal modules

0:38:460:38:50

we touched a little bit about joint enterprise.

0:38:500:38:53

So I knew vaguely the situations that can arise from it.

0:38:530:38:57

However, I never knew it would be like they would cast the net

0:38:570:39:01

this wide to get every single person

0:39:010:39:03

that was present there charged with murder.

0:39:030:39:06

That's not what I learnt. We were taught about proportionality,

0:39:060:39:10

the intention to kill, the mens rea element.

0:39:100:39:13

And...none of that is in this case or in the previous cases

0:39:140:39:20

where people have actually been convicted of it.

0:39:200:39:24

So I never realised it was like this.

0:39:240:39:27

The Court of Appeal's decision on Wayne Collins' application

0:39:400:39:43

for a reduction in sentence is due today.

0:39:430:39:46

Just having...

0:39:480:39:50

Just the waiting is just so...

0:39:510:39:55

It reminds me of the trial.

0:39:550:39:56

And the jury went out

0:39:580:40:00

and Wayne's the last person for a decision to be made.

0:40:000:40:06

So we were all on edge and it was like half of the family were like,

0:40:060:40:10

"Oh, my God, it's great."

0:40:100:40:12

PHONE RINGS

0:40:120:40:15

Here we go.

0:40:160:40:18

Hello, you're through to Deborah.

0:40:180:40:20

Hi, Barry, how are you doing?

0:40:220:40:24

Hi, it's bad news, I'm afraid.

0:40:240:40:27

What's the news?

0:40:270:40:28

They've not reduced his sentence at all?

0:40:300:40:34

They're not reducing it?

0:40:340:40:36

I'm really, really angry.

0:40:390:40:42

So we have to go to the European Court Of Human Rights?

0:40:420:40:47

I can't believe it. Wayne's going to be devastated.

0:40:470:40:50

The Court of Appeal said, "Well, not only did his presence encourage

0:40:510:40:58

"what went on, but by the jury's verdict, he intended to do that."

0:40:580:41:04

And so it was "participation in extremely serious offending"

0:41:040:41:08

is what the Court of Appeal said and upheld the 18 years.

0:41:080:41:12

-Hi, Mum, it's me.

-'Oh, God.'

0:41:120:41:14

They're not letting him... They're not granting his appeal.

0:41:150:41:20

'Oh, God, my baby!'

0:41:200:41:22

I know. We're going to go to the Court Of Human Rights.

0:41:220:41:28

'Jesus Christ, have mercy, my poor baby. I will be strong.'

0:41:280:41:33

But I don't know how Wayne would ever have been able

0:41:330:41:36

to give evidence well, cos I don't think he's that sort of person.

0:41:360:41:39

The prosecution has spent weeks going through it all,

0:41:390:41:42

looking at every little bit, "How we can catch you out,"

0:41:420:41:45

"Oh, you said here that it happened at five past three,

0:41:450:41:48

"and now you're saying it's ten past three and how can you be so wrong?"

0:41:480:41:51

It's kind of...

0:41:510:41:53

It's a game for those people who are not caught up in it.

0:41:530:41:57

For those people who are caught up in it, it's their life.

0:41:570:42:00

But for the others, it's a game they play.

0:42:000:42:03

The jury have retired

0:42:140:42:15

and Sally and Charlotte are visiting Alex at Belmarsh Prison

0:42:150:42:19

for the last time before hearing the verdict.

0:42:190:42:22

I hate seeing him in there. He's got such...

0:42:220:42:25

He's got bags, he looks pale,

0:42:250:42:27

he hasn't been out in the fresh air, he hasn't had sunlight.

0:42:270:42:31

He just looks really, really scared and down.

0:42:310:42:34

There's so many different groups of boys,

0:42:340:42:36

all up for joint enterprise murder, so he speaks to them and he sees them

0:42:360:42:40

explaining that there's no evidence against them

0:42:400:42:42

and that they've been told that they're going to be off

0:42:420:42:44

and they're getting really excited about going home.

0:42:440:42:47

But then he sees them a day later and they've been found guilty.

0:42:470:42:51

So now he's terrified.

0:42:510:42:52

We have, I'm sure, young men now in prison for a minimum of 30 years

0:42:590:43:05

for some criminal activity

0:43:050:43:07

where there was no intent to kill or cause grievous bodily harm

0:43:070:43:11

and I think it's a very serious problem.

0:43:110:43:15

We're not saying they're not guilty of anything,

0:43:150:43:18

it's just whether we really need to go to murder,

0:43:180:43:21

particularly when we have such hugely long minimum terms.

0:43:210:43:26

'I feel that I'm a victim of a joint enterprise

0:43:310:43:33

'as I've been convicted of a charge just for associating with someone.

0:43:330:43:38

'I do not avoid the fact that my behaviour on the horrific day

0:43:380:43:42

'of the murder was disorderly. Being a 15-year-old boy,

0:43:420:43:46

'following the crowd to gain a bit of respect from the older lads,

0:43:460:43:50

'I was naive to how things could end up.

0:43:500:43:52

'I had never believed that anybody would be hurt

0:43:550:43:58

'as a result of setting out that day, let alone killed.

0:43:580:44:01

'What most people forget is that a large quantity of people

0:44:020:44:06

'who didn't carry out the fatal blow

0:44:060:44:07

'are also punished for another's actions.'

0:44:070:44:10

He's still struggling to accept the fact...

0:44:110:44:15

..he was convicted. So, as a mother...

0:44:180:44:22

if I think about how he feels...

0:44:220:44:25

..I'm very, very sad, but I realise...

0:44:280:44:31

..the things I can do is very limited.

0:44:340:44:36

After four days of deliberations,

0:44:430:44:45

the jury have arrived at their verdicts.

0:44:450:44:48

Younis Tayyib, who had tried to break up the fight,

0:44:480:44:52

is acquitted of the murder of Taqui Khezihi.

0:44:520:44:54

Alex Henry and his friend, Janhelle Grant-Murray,

0:44:560:44:59

have been found guilty,

0:44:590:45:01

alongside the self-confessed stabber, Cameron Ferguson.

0:45:010:45:04

Everyone was in a real state by the time we went in.

0:45:090:45:11

The judge tells you that when the verdict is announced

0:45:110:45:15

that the people in the gallery, that's us,

0:45:150:45:17

have to take it without a noise - in absolute silence, we have to remain.

0:45:170:45:22

And so we didn't, because obviously it was such a shock,

0:45:230:45:27

an ambulance had to be called for one of the mums.

0:45:270:45:30

I'm still just absolutely baffled as to how a jury

0:45:310:45:38

could come to a majority verdict

0:45:380:45:40

of guilty when there was no direct evidence in this case.

0:45:400:45:44

Just for...

0:45:480:45:50

..hanging out with the wrong friend, I suppose.

0:45:520:45:55

-That's it.

-For just being there.

0:45:570:46:00

There's nothing he could have done to change it.

0:46:000:46:03

He couldn't have foresaw that anything was going to happen

0:46:030:46:08

that day, he was just a young boy going shopping with some friends.

0:46:080:46:12

Charlotte went up to the relative of the victim...

0:46:160:46:19

I think it was the father.

0:46:190:46:21

..father of the victim and said, "I'm sorry for your loss,"

0:46:210:46:23

and he said, "I'm sorry for yours."

0:46:230:46:26

You're very courageous, saying that to him.

0:46:260:46:29

There's no winners in this, is there? That's for sure.

0:46:340:46:37

No.

0:46:390:46:40

So this is the road Ben was murdered in - North Road.

0:46:560:47:00

And after his murder, all the kids went to lay flowers

0:47:010:47:06

and they all signed the street sign.

0:47:060:47:11

You know, even the kids around here, locally, as a community,

0:47:160:47:21

had had enough.

0:47:210:47:22

There was a big march organised by young kids saying,

0:47:220:47:26

"Enough is enough of this knife crime and violent crime on our streets."

0:47:260:47:31

Our son never got to find out about his exam results.

0:47:310:47:35

We was given an envelope for that,

0:47:350:47:37

sort of two months after he died to say that he was a straight-A student.

0:47:370:47:42

You know, we'll never see him grow up.

0:47:430:47:46

They can go and visit their sons or daughters.

0:47:460:47:52

We have to go up to a cemetery every weekend or nearly every weekend.

0:47:520:47:57

You know, that's what you've got to think about.

0:47:570:48:00

He was precious to us.

0:48:030:48:05

I feel to them, life's cheap.

0:48:060:48:09

He was our everything, wasn't he?

0:48:100:48:12

Yeah.

0:48:140:48:15

Following Ben's death,

0:48:190:48:21

the Kinsella family successfully campaigned to increase

0:48:210:48:24

the mandatory sentence for murder with a knife from 15 to 25 years.

0:48:240:48:30

The laws are there to sort of keep people on the straight and narrow.

0:48:300:48:34

But if people want to break them,

0:48:340:48:37

then they've got to face the consequences of that.

0:48:370:48:39

They've got to know that

0:48:390:48:41

if they're going to get involved in serious crimes like murder and stuff,

0:48:410:48:47

then being part of it, you might as well throw away the key yourself.

0:48:470:48:53

Sentencing for Alex Henry and his co-defendants

0:48:570:49:00

is at Snaresbrook Crown Court.

0:49:000:49:03

Cameron Ferguson receives a life sentence

0:49:030:49:06

with a minimum term of 22 years.

0:49:060:49:08

As secondary parties, Alex and Janhelle Grant-Murray

0:49:110:49:14

are given life with minimum terms of 19 years,

0:49:140:49:18

despite there being no proof that either had a knife

0:49:180:49:21

or intended to kill or cause serious harm.

0:49:210:49:25

What was his face like? Because I was just comforting you.

0:49:250:49:28

I was... He seemed OK, he just looked straight ahead.

0:49:280:49:30

-He seemed all right. He seemed dignified.

-He did.

0:49:300:49:33

-He just looked straight ahead.

-Yeah. Yeah.

0:49:330:49:35

It's a very harsh sentence.

0:49:370:49:39

I think Cameron Ferguson's actions on that day

0:49:390:49:44

did tragically take Taqui's life,

0:49:440:49:47

left a family devastated and mother heartbroken.

0:49:470:49:51

But this law has also taken two more victims,

0:49:510:49:56

my brother and his friend, Janhelle.

0:49:560:49:58

And they're going to be serving a life sentence

0:49:580:50:01

for a murder they did not commit,

0:50:010:50:04

and two more families are now devastated,

0:50:040:50:06

two more mothers are now heartbroken.

0:50:060:50:09

And something needs to change.

0:50:090:50:11

Alex and Janhelle's lawyers are appealing against their convictions.

0:50:210:50:25

It's difficult to appeal convictions, generally.

0:50:250:50:28

The reason's a good one, actually,

0:50:280:50:30

which is that the Court of Appeal respects the jury's verdict

0:50:300:50:35

and unless something has gone seriously wrong in the trial process,

0:50:350:50:40

they will uphold that verdict.

0:50:400:50:43

They may not agree with it, but if they think that the jury

0:50:430:50:46

were given all the relevant facts

0:50:460:50:49

and the trial was conducted fairly and according to the law,

0:50:490:50:53

then generally speaking that's enough for the verdict to stand.

0:50:530:50:57

Even if it's one that people don't think is correct.

0:50:570:51:01

The appeal process has left the Collins family deeply disillusioned.

0:51:050:51:10

We just thought, even if he got four years taken off,

0:51:110:51:16

we would have been happy,

0:51:160:51:18

but for it to just completely be dismissed, we were just...

0:51:180:51:22

It was devastating. It was like him being resentenced all over again.

0:51:220:51:27

-Yeah.

-On the run-up to the appeal, it gave him hope, didn't it?

0:51:270:51:31

Like, something to look forward to, but there's nothing now.

0:51:310:51:35

No justice, no peace.

0:51:400:51:42

-What do we want?

-Justice.

-What do we want?

-Justice.

0:51:420:51:46

No justice, no peace.

0:51:460:51:48

'Unfortunately, the demographic group who are affected by joint enterprise

0:51:480:51:51

'are going to be a section of society

0:51:510:51:54

'who do not have a great deal of influence.'

0:51:540:51:57

And I don't see middle-class people ending up in the dock

0:51:580:52:02

being accused of crimes on the basis that they associate

0:52:020:52:05

or they're with other people who commit crimes.

0:52:050:52:08

-When do we want it?

-ALL: Now!

-Free our innocents.

0:52:080:52:12

Calls for reform are coming not only from families

0:52:120:52:15

caught up in joint enterprise cases, but also from the Law Commission

0:52:150:52:19

and the Justice Committee of the House Of Commons.

0:52:190:52:23

So far, successive governments have declined to act.

0:52:230:52:27

'I think there's an element of policy here.'

0:52:290:52:32

The law has progressed in this way,

0:52:320:52:35

to cater for large numbers of senseless killings,

0:52:350:52:40

when if you didn't have a definition such as exists at the moment,

0:52:400:52:44

very often the followers, the encouragers would be acquitted

0:52:440:52:48

of any responsibility for the death.

0:52:480:52:51

My brother is currently serving 19 years' imprisonment

0:52:540:52:57

for a crime he did not commit.

0:52:570:53:00

-Free our innocents. ALL:

-Free our innocents!

0:53:000:53:03

My suggested reform would be that a person is only guilty of murder

0:53:030:53:08

if he intended to kill or intended to cause grievous bodily harm.

0:53:080:53:13

No intention, no guilt.

0:53:130:53:16

-ALL:

-No intention, no guilt.

0:53:160:53:19

I'd like the people that want this reform to talk to parents like us,

0:53:190:53:24

parents and families that have lost their loved ones.

0:53:240:53:28

Talk to us and see if that changes your mind.

0:53:280:53:32

You know, I'm sure if the boot was on the other foot,

0:53:340:53:37

they'd feel exactly as strongly as us.

0:53:370:53:40

Joint enterprise is a court full of lies.

0:53:400:53:42

-ALL:

-Joint enterprise is a court full of lies.

0:53:420:53:45

-Let our prisoners go.

-ALL:

-Let our prisoners go.

0:53:450:53:48

-Not guilty by association.

-ALL:

-Not guilty by association.

0:53:480:53:53

The judges in the Supreme Court tomorrow could say this doctrine

0:53:540:53:59

has led us too far away from basic principles and we should abandon it.

0:53:590:54:04

So it could be done.

0:54:040:54:06

I'm not saying it would be done, but it could be done.

0:54:060:54:08

-Are you saying it should be done?

-In my view, it should be done.

0:54:080:54:11

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