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This programme contains strong language

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and scenes which some viewers may find upsetting from the start.

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There is a violent crime that strikes at the very heart

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of home and family.

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But it's an offence where victims are rarely willing to press charges.

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This is awful.

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Working with Thames Valley Police for over 12 months, this film

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follows three extraordinary women,

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from the moment they call the police all the way to trial and beyond.

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I can still feel his hands around my throat.

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I can still see his face and feel his breath,

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taste that metallic taste at the back of your throat from the blood.

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They have waived their right to anonymity

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to break the wall of silence and fear that surrounds domestic abuse.

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Imagine if I did nothing and he did it again to somebody else.

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You know? He is a danger to women.

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It's April 20th, 2015.

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A 999 call comes in to Thames Valley Police.

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'Go ahead, caller. You're through to the police.

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SHOUTING

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'Hello. Is there anyone on the line?'

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All the police can hear is shouting.

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'I'm getting officers out there straight away.'

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The call cuts off after two minutes.

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'Female panicking on the phone.'

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But the police have tracked the position of the mobile phone,

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and officers arrive seven minutes later.

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I haven't done anything wrong.

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I'm arresting you on suspicion of assault.

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-Something's happened here.

-Yeah.

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A female's got injured that we can't account for at this time.

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There's enough suspicion for me to arrest you on suspicion of assault.

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Sabrina managed to call the police and throw the phone under her bed.

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She says she's been beaten by her partner, Paul Hopkins,

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for over six hours.

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Are you happy to give a statement about what's happened today?

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I don't want to. I don't know.

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I appreciate that you're scared but we've taken him away now.

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Paul is arrested

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and taken into custody.

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This is where he's had me on the bed

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and he's smashed my face in.

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That's all my blood there.

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There's a handprint, where I've tried to drag myself away from him.

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There's a few spots of it on the bottom bit there, too.

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There's blood all up here, too. Look.

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That's all my blood sprayed up the wall.

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As you can see, there's spots everywhere really.

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Sabrina and Paul have been together for five years.

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Paul has been violent before

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but this is the worst attack Sabrina has ever suffered.

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It started as just a couple of little slaps in the face

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and then it just escalated.

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He threw that chair on my head

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and then he picked up the speaker underneath it,

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held it above his head and was going to throw it on my head.

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When I screamed at him, "Please, stop. You're going to kill me,"

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he said, "I don't care. I don't care cos I hate you."

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I've never been so frightened.

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I honestly thought I was going to die.

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I thought he was going to kill me.

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Sorry.

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If the police hadn't come when they did, he would have done.

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He was still going then.

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I can't even begin to explain what it felt like.

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It's...almost resigning yourself

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to the fact that, this is it, I'm going to die.

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I'm going to die.

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And then I got to the point while he was beating me,

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where it was like, "Please, this next punch,

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"just let it be the last one so it does kill me and it stops

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"because I won't feel it any more."

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SHE SOBS

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Because the attack was so violent,

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Sabrina's case is immediately referred to the domestic abuse unit

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at Thames Valley Police.

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My name's Emma. I work for the domestic abuse unit.

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I'm just giving you a call to see how you are.

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Paul Hopkins is interviewed later the same day by DC Sam Hunter,

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an officer specially trained to deal with domestic abuse.

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Can you tell me what led up to you being arrested?

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She went out to meet a dealer sometime last...

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I think it was the night-time cos it was dark.

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Obviously, I've lost track of time, for that long,

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and came back in that state.

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And what state are you talking about when you say...?

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Her face was really badly bruised and her nose was bleeding

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and it kept continuing to bleed.

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What did her eyes look like?

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One of them she couldn't see out of.

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Did she explain what happened to her?

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She just said he gave her a good hiding cos she couldn't pay him.

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-Who's he?

-I can't name him.

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You're basically saying you know

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-who's given her this good hiding, aren't you?

-Yeah.

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-And you're not going to tell us?

-I can't.

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His defence is that she left to go meet the drug dealer

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and, because she couldn't pay him, he's given her a good beating.

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But if that's the case

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then there would have been blood at least going up the steps,

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'cos all the blood is round by the bed area

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'and up the walls and there's no blood outside,

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'so I think that's very telling.'

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Sabrina is obviously saying you did those injuries to her

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and she goes on to say,

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"The threats started to get worse

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"and that you ended up slapping her and punching her."

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Did you do that?

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-No. I never touched her.

-You never touched her?

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Only to cuddle her. But, no, not violently.

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They put the cuffs on me

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and said, "We're arresting you on suspicion of assault,"

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and she screamed at them and as they were leading me down the steps

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she was still screaming, "Don't. He hasn't done anything. It's not him."

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-Is Paul coming with us?

-Yeah, Paul's coming with you.

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Arrested on suspicion of assault by me, 08.40.

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Sarge, can that go with him? It's just tobacco.

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'Sabrina, we've got an ambulance coming to see you.'

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Well, I don't hear her screaming,

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saying he's done nothing wrong.

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'Can you tell us what's happened yet?'

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It is really interesting, and if he goes "not guilty",

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this I will insist on being played through the trial,

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because it's just so...

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Yeah, it's a really good piece of evidence, I think.

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The police will give the Crown Prosecution Service their evidence

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but they may only be able to charge Paul

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if Sabrina is willing to go to court.

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Sabrina's already known to the team.

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She has a history of retracting her police statements.

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The last time was four months ago,

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after Paul had allegedly assaulted her.

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With domestic abuse, we do get to see the same people

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time and time again.

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43% of victims will be a repeat victim,

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and when I say that, it means they will suffer another crime

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within a year of having reported a crime.

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They may be being abused by the same partner, time and time again,

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and we will work very hard to break that.

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The domestic abuse unit don't just deal with physical violence.

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A new case of harassment has just come in from a woman

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who is fleeing her partner.

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Hi, Beverley. It's Charlotte Parker from Thames Valley Police.

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Hello. I'm just phoning with a bit of an update for our case.

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So Lawrence phoned Helen and when he started bad-mouthing her father,

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she decided she was going to call

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the police and tell them where he was.

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Helen has only been in the Thames Valley area for a few weeks.

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She met her partner, Lawrence, ten years ago.

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I met him through a friend of ours,

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and just the minute that I walked through the door,

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I just thought, "Oh." I just knew.

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We spent a year getting to know each other.

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We had great fun. We'd go out places.

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We'd stay in. We'd have meals together.

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We spent every single day together.

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Lawrence moved in with Helen and her five-year-old son in 2008.

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He took on Joseph on like his own.

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Nothing was ever a problem.

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I lost my mum, he looked after us.

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My dad came and stayed with us, you know, because he was in a bad way.

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I mean, he really was my rock.

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But a few months after they started living together,

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Helen realised that Lawrence was becoming more controlling.

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It was a gradual kind of...

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just a little bit more, a little bit more, a little bit more.

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And, "Oh, my feet are aching. Could you rub my feet?"

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And then it would be, "Why are you not rubbing my feet tonight?"

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And, "You haven't rubbed my feet so get on with it."

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That's when the mental abuse started kicking in, and the verbal abuse.

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And then I don't actually remember the very first time that he hit me.

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I don't particularly recall what it was that set it off.

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I think he backslapped me across the face. Um...

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and I think I... I mean, I was just in so much shock,

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I just couldn't believe that he'd actually done that to me.

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He was so nice 90% of the time,

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but so absolutely vile 10% of the time.

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When they put my mum's ashes up at the graveyard,

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he turned round and punched me in the face

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so I couldn't go to that because I had a black eye,

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so I had to make an excuse

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and say to my dad I couldn't cope with seeing her ashes going.

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In January 2015, the violence escalated.

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The family were celebrating New Year on the Shetland Islands.

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That night, Lawrence viciously attacked Helen.

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Her 12-year-old son witnessed the attack

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and then managed to get out and run for help.

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Lawrence Feek was arrested and remanded in custody.

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From prison, Lawrence wrote letters to Helen, begging for forgiveness.

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After a week, he was released on bail

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and returned to the family home.

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He came straight to Lincolnshire

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and gave me the "I'm going to a counsellor,

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"I'm not going to drink any more,

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"I'm going to change, blah-blah-blah,"

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and, like an idiot, I believed him...

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..so I took him back.

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Six weeks ago, Helen decided to leave Lawrence for good.

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She's taken her son to the only safe place she knows -

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her dad's.

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But Lawrence has continued to send her abusive texts,

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which she's reported to Thames Valley Police.

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Helen's having hundreds of texts and calls a day.

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She said she didn't want the contact,

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she'd asked him to stop,

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and also it was the nature of the content of the contact,

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in that he's threatening to harm her, threatening to kill her.

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So more offences might happen.

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We run the risk of him finding her,

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assaulting her again, or worse.

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The day after Sabrina's six-hour assault,

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her partner, Paul Hopkins,

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has been charged with GBH and remanded in custody.

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I've never seen such bad bruising.

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The extent of Sabrina's injuries

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means she's immediately referred to a specialist panel.

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Obviously, everything we discuss today is confidential.

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Police, social services, schools and charities come together

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to protect people who are at the highest risk -

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at threat of imminent danger or even death.

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Can I just update you that I believe...

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Nikkie is an independent advisor for high-risk victims.

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She'll support Sabrina to make sure she's safe

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and will be there alongside her if the case goes to trial.

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-Hiya, all right?

-Yeah.

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Sabrina and Paul have been in a relationship for about five years.

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Four of those years, he has been quite violent towards her.

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But he's also been quite emotionally, mentally

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and financially abusive.

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-Have you got bruises on your arms?

-Yeah.

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Can I have a look?

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'Sabrina has reported to the police in the past.

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'Unfortunately she hasn't supported police,'

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but we've got to remember these people love the perpetrators.

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Him not being here's weird, but at the same time, it's not...

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-I can't get used to it.

-Mm.

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Cos my mind still remembers the nice part of him,

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-and then there's the other half of him.

-Mm.

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-You know?

-Jekyll and Hyde.

-Yeah.

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I suppose, if you like, I'm grieving the loss of the nice him.

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Yeah. Yeah, of course you are.

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The other thing I wanted to speak to you about was

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he's on remand, as you know.

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If he's let out on bail, then we're going to have to think about refuge,

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or if you've got any family and friends you can go and stay with.

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-All right?

-Yeah.

-OK?

-Mm-hm.

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If he pleads not guilty, he's going to put you through a trial,

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I'm afraid, so that means you're going to have to go to court,

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and you're going to have to give evidence in court.

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We're possibly talking about six months if it goes to trial.

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-Right.

-All right? But I don't want you to start worrying about court,

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cos we don't know. All right? We just don't know.

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It's five months since Helen's attack in Scotland,

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which was so vicious that she is now judged to be at high risk.

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Her partner, Lawrence, has pleaded guilty

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to what the prosecution described

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as "a particularly violent domestic assault",

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during which she was hit with a PlayStation console,

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chunks of he hair were pulled out,

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and the imprint of a shoe was made around her right eye.

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The judge fined Lawrence £1,700,

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but did not send him to prison.

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I'm furious because he's got away

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with completely and utterly kicking me to bits.

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I mean, he literally...

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He could have killed me.

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And he's walked away and he's back out on the street.

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He's just gone unpunished, completely.

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I just... I can't see him ever being brought to justice.

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DC Charlotte Parker has been investigating the texts

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and voice messages Lawrence has continued to send Helen.

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Lawrence has been picked up by police,

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but in interview he's made claims which, if they stand up,

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could seriously undermine the new harassment case.

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You do not have to say anything but it might harm your defence

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if you do not mention when questioned

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something which you later rely on in court.

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Anything you do say may be given in evidence.

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-All right? You happy with that?

-Yeah, yeah, I'm happy with that.

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-Anything you want me to go over?

-No, that's fine, mate.

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Moving on then. So you've been arrested for...

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When Lawrence was arrested,

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he said that he had been spending time with Helen

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over the Easter period last month,

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and they'd been going out for family dinners.

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As a police officer, we are here to investigate

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and it's our obligation to look into that allegation

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cos, if we find out that Helen and Lawrence have been meeting up

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and having lunches and staying in hotels together,

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then it could completely close the case down if it's found to be true.

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Lawrence has given police the name of a local pub

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where he says he went with Helen.

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If Charlotte finds CCTV evidence supporting his claims

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then it suggests Helen has not been honest with the police,

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and will make it very difficult to get a conviction for harassment.

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It's them.

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So, at 13:25, they're coming in, all three of them, as a family.

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So this is Lawrence coming through the door...

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..followed by Joseph and followed by Helen.

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Doesn't look like a girl under distress, does it?

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There's an element of disappointment that you see that

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you're probably not going to get a prosecution,

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and you've now got to find out the victim's reasons as to why...

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why she's done it.

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We don't know until we go and speak to her.

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We're going to have to challenge her on what we've found

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and see what she's got to say.

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When Lawrence was arrested, obviously he's interviewed

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-and he gets to give an account as to...

-Yeah.

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..what he's got to say about it.

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And he says that he came to stay down here.

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Yes, he came down here. He told me he was here.

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He sent me a picture of him being here.

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But did you see him when he was...?

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I didn't see him when he was here. He told me he was here.

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But did you meet up with him?

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No.

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OK.

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So Lawrence has said that you guys met up

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-and I have to check that out.

-Of course.

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So we have been today to check it out

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and, on the 5th of last month, so Easter Sunday...

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I saw him.

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I did.

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And what did you do?

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We went for a meal.

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For Joseph.

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I saw him.

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So why did you guys meet up?

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He wanted to give Joseph an Easter present.

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But why did you do it?

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I don't know.

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I don't know, Charlotte.

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Because at the moment, we are trying to investigate a harassment

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and you've been phoning each other and texting each other

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and meeting up for dinners.

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I don't know what to say.

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Because he gets me.

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You tell me about that, then.

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Why have you been in contact with him?

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Only you can tell me, I don't know how you're feeling,

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what you're thinking.

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I just don't know, I don't know.

0:20:080:20:10

He kept telling me he was going to kill himself.

0:20:100:20:13

Um...

0:20:140:20:16

I don't know. He's a bit like a drug.

0:20:190:20:22

SHE CRIES

0:20:290:20:31

I hate him, but I can't...

0:20:350:20:37

He's like a drug.

0:20:400:20:42

I won't never have any more contact with him ever again.

0:20:440:20:47

Helen's contact with Lawrence will make it hard for the police

0:20:520:20:55

to pursue a case of harassment.

0:20:550:20:57

Whatever happens to the case, Helen is still being supported

0:20:580:21:02

by Caron from a local domestic abuse charity.

0:21:020:21:05

It's quite common for victims and perpetrators

0:21:060:21:08

to carry on meeting each other or get back together

0:21:080:21:11

because they are emotionally attached to that person.

0:21:110:21:14

But now she has met up with him,

0:21:140:21:17

she realises what he was doing

0:21:170:21:20

and she realises that it was just another tactic

0:21:200:21:23

to try and get her back with him and get his own way again,

0:21:230:21:27

and to use her son really as a tool to get to her,

0:21:270:21:31

promising him gifts,

0:21:310:21:33

and Helen was feeling at quite a low ebb when she met up with him.

0:21:330:21:36

So we've got the bully...

0:21:360:21:38

Yeah, he shouts, smashes things and sulks.

0:21:380:21:41

-And the jailer...

-Yep.

0:21:410:21:44

Definitely puts me down. I've got texts that say I'm fat, ugly.

0:21:440:21:48

He's threatened to hurt and kill me.

0:21:480:21:51

Cries, yes, I've had that.

0:21:510:21:53

I've had him say he loves me, I've had him threaten to kill himself.

0:21:530:21:58

I've had plenty of that he is going to report me

0:21:580:22:01

to social services and the DSS.

0:22:010:22:03

Helen had been told that she was stupid,

0:22:030:22:07

that she was ugly, that she was no good,

0:22:070:22:09

that nobody would believe her, etc,

0:22:090:22:11

every day for ten years,

0:22:110:22:13

and that is hard for people to understand.

0:22:130:22:16

Because, "Why do they go back?"

0:22:160:22:18

And they go back because they are really testing the waters,

0:22:180:22:21

if you like, so testing if they can manage on their own,

0:22:210:22:25

and when they go back they are still hoping

0:22:250:22:29

that things are going to change and that things are going to get better.

0:22:290:22:33

And maybe this is a bit of a warning sign to the other person

0:22:330:22:37

that things need to change.

0:22:370:22:38

But the reality is that it doesn't change

0:22:380:22:42

and often it gets worse.

0:22:420:22:44

In the last year around one in 12 women

0:22:480:22:50

have reported being victims of domestic abuse.

0:22:500:22:53

But on average, they will endure 50 incidents of abuse

0:22:530:22:57

before getting help.

0:22:570:22:59

Often, they'll only call 999 when there's an immediate threat to life.

0:22:590:23:04

'Police Emergency.'

0:23:210:23:23

Hello. I've just had our neighbour come across.

0:23:230:23:26

She's complaining that someone in her house

0:23:260:23:29

just beat the shit out of her.

0:23:290:23:30

OK, we're going to get help to her. What injuries does she have, please?

0:23:300:23:33

She could have broken ribs, she says she has trouble breathing.

0:23:330:23:37

OK, we are going to get help to you.

0:23:370:23:39

-I want to stay on the phone for me, all right?

-OK.

0:23:390:23:41

Jemma has been attacked by her ex-boyfriend

0:23:410:23:44

who she finished with four months ago.

0:23:440:23:47

Dwayne Mason is arrested later the same night

0:23:470:23:51

with blood all over his clothes.

0:23:510:23:53

This interview is now being recorded

0:23:530:23:55

and it may be given in evidence if your case is brought to trial.

0:23:550:23:59

Do you understand everything so far?

0:23:590:24:01

I came in through my bedroom door

0:24:140:24:17

and as I've turned around he's just head-butted me and I fell on my bed.

0:24:170:24:22

The blood was just dripping off my face.

0:24:220:24:24

And I turned around to him,

0:24:240:24:27

obviously not expecting it to carry on,

0:24:270:24:30

and from that point it was just a shower of blows, really -

0:24:300:24:35

punching me, dragging me, holding my head,

0:24:350:24:39

throwing me down on the bed, strangling me.

0:24:390:24:41

It was like he was waiting for me to lose consciousness

0:24:410:24:44

and when I come round, would carry on.

0:24:440:24:46

Jemma only had a brief relationship with Dwayne.

0:24:480:24:51

Since she broke up with him,

0:24:510:24:53

he's been harassing her with phone calls and texts,

0:24:530:24:56

and turning up at her house at all hours.

0:24:560:24:58

OK, this interview is now being recorded.

0:25:010:25:04

What happened in the bedroom, Dwayne?

0:25:040:25:06

What did you do to Jemma in the bedroom?

0:25:090:25:11

Jemma remembers that you just kept punching her and punching her.

0:25:130:25:16

And then you were strangling her, pinning her down,

0:25:170:25:20

strangling her so she couldn't breathe.

0:25:200:25:22

And she was fighting for her life

0:25:230:25:25

because she thought she was going to die.

0:25:250:25:28

He's crying now, yeah.

0:25:280:25:30

Are you so distressed because you do care about her and she's injured?

0:25:320:25:37

Or so distressed because you caused those injuries?

0:25:370:25:42

HE SOBS

0:25:420:25:44

Her injuries, she had some serious cuts to her face,

0:25:460:25:50

I understand she had broken ribs, a punctured lung.

0:25:500:25:53

How is she mentally, physically, how is she at the moment?

0:25:530:25:57

She's been reasonably good.

0:25:570:25:59

She's found it really difficult at first,

0:25:590:26:02

but I'm going to touch base with her today and see how she is.

0:26:020:26:05

What else did we get in respect of connecting him to her?

0:26:050:26:09

Well, there was clothing with blood on it, there was an earring

0:26:090:26:12

-with blood on it as well.

-Yeah, can I ask about that?

0:26:120:26:14

-They took the earring from him.

-He was wearing that at the time?

-Yeah.

0:26:140:26:18

Cos that will be a really compelling piece of evidence

0:26:180:26:20

which will tie him...

0:26:200:26:22

Cos at one point she describes him having her blood all over his face.

0:26:220:26:26

Yeah, OK. And then as far as her wanting to go to court,

0:26:260:26:29

how does she feel about that?

0:26:290:26:31

-She's sort of on board at the moment, yeah.

-Excellent.

0:26:310:26:35

What I'm really pleased about is the fact that she's going to make

0:26:350:26:38

a very good witness.

0:26:380:26:40

And he's got a lot of questions to answer.

0:26:400:26:43

He has, and he's been on the radar for a long time

0:26:430:26:46

with different women, but it's always been the same,

0:26:460:26:51

that they've always been

0:26:510:26:52

-too frightened to do much about it, so...

-Yeah.

0:26:520:26:56

It's always a great thing when victims can say,

0:26:570:27:00

"I've had enough, yeah, I'm going to make a stand

0:27:000:27:03

"and I'm not going to tolerate you doing this to me any more."

0:27:030:27:07

Very often people who have been in abusive relationships,

0:27:070:27:10

the nature of the relationship

0:27:100:27:12

is that they're always blamed for the bad things that happen,

0:27:120:27:15

and they feel very responsible very often for what's happened.

0:27:150:27:19

It is very hard for them to talk to the police,

0:27:190:27:24

or other agencies, and to take prosecutions forward.

0:27:240:27:28

Dewayne Mason is remanded in custody and pleads not guilty.

0:27:310:27:36

Jemma is prepared to go to court, but the trial may be months away.

0:27:360:27:41

The police want her to record her Victim Personal Statement, or VPS,

0:27:410:27:45

while events are still fresh in her mind.

0:27:450:27:47

I've got constant missed calls, threatening messages.

0:27:480:27:52

I think yesterday we topped up 190-plus calls,

0:27:520:27:55

and it would go on to messages.

0:27:550:27:57

He messages me, "You don't want to be with me, get ready for hell.

0:27:570:28:01

"I will go to your work, your college, your house,

0:28:010:28:04

"just to make scenes.

0:28:040:28:05

"I will slit your tyres every night, poison your dogs.

0:28:050:28:08

"You think you can leave me? You leave me, someone leaves you.

0:28:080:28:11

"How about that? Yeah, I'm sick - so what?"

0:28:110:28:13

It's three months on from Sabrina's six-hour beating.

0:28:150:28:19

Her partner Paul is still on remand and has pleaded not guilty to GBH.

0:28:190:28:23

She too is prepared to go to court,

0:28:230:28:27

and although the jury will be shown photographs of her injuries,

0:28:270:28:30

she must also complete her personal statement.

0:28:300:28:34

I can remember that he smashed me in the nose.

0:28:340:28:37

It was bleeding that bad

0:28:370:28:39

that it wasn't running out of my nose quick enough,

0:28:390:28:42

and I can remember him strangling me on the bed

0:28:420:28:44

and coughing and it going in his face.

0:28:440:28:46

That's the bit I can't get out of my head.

0:28:460:28:48

I had bruising to the brain,

0:28:480:28:50

cut eyebrow where he had head-butted me,

0:28:500:28:53

and then obviously the severe bruising to the neck.

0:28:530:28:56

When he was stamping on me,

0:28:560:28:58

the only reason they think I didn't end up with internal bleeding

0:28:580:29:01

or more damage to me was because he wasn't wearing shoes.

0:29:010:29:04

-He was bare-footed?

-Yeah.

0:29:040:29:06

On that night he beat me naked

0:29:060:29:09

and he had literally beat me to a pulp.

0:29:090:29:12

I'm not sleeping properly, and I don't eat properly.

0:29:120:29:16

He basically lies, cheats, manipulates,

0:29:160:29:19

you know, abuses and effectively beats up, just to get his own way.

0:29:190:29:24

And he never takes responsibility for anything,

0:29:240:29:27

that's what shows...more and more,

0:29:270:29:30

he thinks he can just do what he wants.

0:29:300:29:32

Because I have been under the impression from him

0:29:350:29:38

that people don't really give a shit anymore, you know,

0:29:380:29:40

people just keep themselves to themselves, they don't get involved

0:29:400:29:44

in other people's arguments, it made me think there

0:29:440:29:47

was...there is no help out there, nobody cares, nobody wants to know.

0:29:470:29:50

But that's not how it is at all, I have not found one person

0:29:500:29:53

that's gone, "Well, you probably deserved it."

0:29:530:29:57

I found myself looking at his pictures and getting angry

0:29:570:30:02

and thinking, "Why, why, why would you do this?

0:30:020:30:05

"Why would you tear something apart that could have been so nice,

0:30:050:30:09

"so wonderful, so good? Why, why did you do that to me?

0:30:090:30:13

"Why did you do that to us?

0:30:130:30:15

"Why did you tear my heart out

0:30:150:30:16

"and why, in turn, are you tearing yours out?

0:30:160:30:19

"Can't you see any of this?"

0:30:190:30:21

And then I get angry, then I cry, then I stop crying

0:30:210:30:24

and get angry again.

0:30:240:30:26

It's all a bit strange, and then I have a fag and calm down!

0:30:260:30:29

But there's been a set-back with the case.

0:30:320:30:35

The Crown Prosecution Service feel they will not successfully

0:30:350:30:38

get a conviction for Grievous Bodily Harm

0:30:380:30:41

and are looking to reduce the charge to Actual Bodily Harm.

0:30:410:30:45

Unfortunately, her injuries don't reflect a GBH.

0:30:450:30:50

It has to be either a breaking of the skin, like a stab wound

0:30:500:30:53

or skull fractures, or broken arms and legs and it's not any of that.

0:30:530:31:00

She had this awful beating and she looks horrendous,

0:31:000:31:03

yet she is very lucky and she only really had a fractured rib.

0:31:030:31:07

It always amazes me that somebody can be beaten senseless and because

0:31:070:31:13

they don't have really serious injuries, it can still be an ABH.

0:31:130:31:18

I do wonder about that sometimes.

0:31:180:31:21

But the CPS lady ensures me

0:31:210:31:22

that it's the worst case of ABH she's ever seen

0:31:220:31:26

and she's put that all over the file and with our VPS from Sabrina,

0:31:260:31:30

we hope that he will be able to get the maximum penalty for an ABH.

0:31:300:31:35

It's three and a half months since Helen and her son fled to her dad's.

0:31:430:31:48

Because she met up with Lawrence,

0:31:480:31:50

the harassment charge against him has been dropped.

0:31:500:31:53

Helen is still trying to keep away from him

0:31:530:31:56

but he is persistently phoning, texting

0:31:560:31:58

and contacting her on social media, so the police have issued her

0:31:580:32:02

with a 24-hour panic alarm and her address is flagged as top priority.

0:32:020:32:07

He's very, very angry with me.

0:32:080:32:10

Once he flips, he can't control himself.

0:32:100:32:14

So, you know, there would be no reason for him to be able to

0:32:140:32:18

control himself, you know, if he saw me or if he came looking for me.

0:32:180:32:24

To protect herself and her son,

0:32:240:32:27

she's applied for a non-molestation order, forbidding Lawrence

0:32:270:32:31

from having any contact with her via text, phone or social media.

0:32:310:32:36

But Lawrence ignores the order and is arrested a week later.

0:32:390:32:43

Can you tell us why Lawrence is with us, please?

0:32:430:32:45

Yes, so at 6 o'clock this morning,

0:32:450:32:47

he was arrested on suspicion of harassment and threats to kill.

0:32:470:32:52

Lawrence has sent in excess of nine voicemails and several e-mails

0:32:520:32:58

to his ex-partner which are unwanted and are of a threatening nature.

0:32:580:33:04

-'Saved messages.

-You're fucked, you dirty fucking skank.

0:33:050:33:10

'Wait until I get hold of ya, cos when I get hold of ya,

0:33:100:33:12

'I'm going to beat you inside out.

0:33:120:33:15

'I'm going to come and get you, I'm going to fucking eat you.

0:33:150:33:18

'I'm going to fucking smash the fucking living daylights out of you.'

0:33:180:33:22

So based on the information the officer's passed to me,

0:33:220:33:25

your detention's authorised at this police station,

0:33:250:33:27

for the purpose of securing and preserving evidence

0:33:270:33:30

and to obtain any further evidence by questioning.

0:33:300:33:33

Do you understand that?

0:33:330:33:34

Gentlemen, would you mind taking Mr Feek to cell number four, please?

0:33:340:33:38

Shoes off outside.

0:33:380:33:39

'When I get ya, I'm going to rip your fucking insides clean out.

0:33:390:33:43

'I'm going to make you eat them. You're fucked.

0:33:430:33:46

'You dirty little skanky fucking whore.

0:33:460:33:50

-'I'm going to beat you like a dirty little

-BLEEP

-that you are.

0:33:500:33:54

'You're fucked. I'm coming to fucking get you.'

0:33:540:33:58

It makes my stomach turn when he says things like that.

0:34:020:34:05

I'm used to him saying those things and then me actually being attacked.

0:34:050:34:10

Because he left me the voicemail messages, he's going to be

0:34:100:34:16

really cross with himself for slipping up like that.

0:34:160:34:20

If he gets bailed this time, he will still torment me but this

0:34:200:34:24

time it would be worse so I would be looking badly over my shoulder.

0:34:240:34:29

I would be very, very concerned about mine and Joseph's safety.

0:34:290:34:35

I don't understand because all I ever done was love him...

0:34:370:34:39

..and I can't get in my head, I don't understand why you would want

0:34:450:34:51

to hurt somebody...that's loved you.

0:34:510:34:55

Not ever... Not done you any wrong.

0:34:550:34:57

I didn't do him any wrong. And yet he still hurt me.

0:34:570:35:01

I just don't get it.

0:35:040:35:06

After a night in the cell,

0:35:110:35:13

Lawrence is taken to the local magistrates' court.

0:35:130:35:16

As a police officer, we'd like to keep people locked up

0:35:160:35:20

because it helps us keep people safe.

0:35:200:35:22

He's got a proven track record of breaching conditions or actually

0:35:220:35:26

abusing victims, or this particular victim, while he's actually on bail.

0:35:260:35:32

It's not that we don't disagree with

0:35:340:35:36

the decision by the magistrates' court.

0:35:360:35:38

It's their decision to make and they've made it.

0:35:380:35:41

Hello, is that Helen?

0:35:410:35:42

'I'm just calling from the domestic abuse team.

0:35:420:35:45

'It's just to ring you up

0:35:450:35:46

'and give you an update from the court result today.

0:35:460:35:49

'They've bailed him but we've got some conditions.

0:35:490:35:53

'He's not allowed to contact you, and that's directly or indirectly,

0:35:530:35:57

'so if he gets somebody else to ring, or contact you...'

0:35:570:36:00

For now, Jemma's attacker, Dwayne, is locked up on remand,

0:36:190:36:24

but as the court date for Jemma draws nearer, she has to face

0:36:240:36:27

the possibility that he may be found not guilty and released.

0:36:270:36:31

He won't be able to come near me, will he?

0:36:310:36:34

-Or the kids?

-Not to contact you.

0:36:340:36:36

That's what I'm more worried about and I want to put that in there,

0:36:360:36:40

that I don't want my kids to have to bump into him.

0:36:400:36:45

He's done the worst to me but I don't want him

0:36:450:36:48

-to use my kids to...

-To get to you.

0:36:480:36:52

Jemma's kids weren't in the house when the attack happened,

0:36:530:36:57

but they saw their mum in hospital immediately afterwards.

0:36:570:37:00

She's asked her specialist support worker, Jacky, to help her

0:37:000:37:04

kids know how to keep themselves safe if Dwayne is released.

0:37:040:37:08

For a child, no matter what age, to witness domestic violence,

0:37:080:37:14

whether they see it first hand or they have gone to bed

0:37:140:37:17

and they can hear banging and crashing and screaming and arguing,

0:37:170:37:21

they don't know what they are going to wake up to in the morning.

0:37:210:37:24

So I've spoken to your mum.

0:37:240:37:26

Hopefully what happens is that we will apply for a restraining

0:37:260:37:29

order which means he won't be allowed to contact you or

0:37:290:37:32

come anywhere near the property, OK?

0:37:320:37:34

If a restraining order isn't made, this is why I'm going to do

0:37:340:37:37

a little bit of safety planning with you now so you know what to

0:37:370:37:40

do in case you bump into him, in case any trouble starts.

0:37:400:37:43

So, you have a mobile phone?

0:37:430:37:45

Yeah, but it doesn't really work.

0:37:460:37:49

It does work, you just don't charge it.

0:37:490:37:51

No, I can't ring people.

0:37:510:37:53

We can... If he gets out of jail, we can put some credit on there, yeah?

0:37:530:37:58

We make sure whenever you are not here, you have credit on your phone.

0:37:580:38:01

So if you've got a phone, if you're worried or you're

0:38:010:38:05

scared, you can always phone the police.

0:38:050:38:07

That's what they're for. And you know what number to ring?

0:38:070:38:09

-999.

-Correct, well done, top of the class.

0:38:090:38:12

Say he approached you and you felt that you couldn't call the police

0:38:120:38:15

because it might cause more harm, phone your mum,

0:38:150:38:19

or phone a friend or phone anybody and use a code word.

0:38:190:38:22

I think that because you're an Arsenal fan, if you phoned up

0:38:220:38:25

a friend or anybody and said, "I now support Spurs," I reckon

0:38:250:38:28

they're going to know that's not true and you need some help.

0:38:280:38:31

So they can just say, "OK, where are you?"

0:38:310:38:33

And then they can call the police for you,

0:38:330:38:35

if they need to, or come and find you.

0:38:350:38:38

OK, so, lots of safety planning has been done in the house,

0:38:380:38:42

we've done the postbox, the fence, the locks.

0:38:420:38:45

If anybody knocks on the door, don't just open the door,

0:38:450:38:48

look through the safety hole first.

0:38:480:38:50

If he did come to the property and he did get in, the best thing

0:38:500:38:53

to do is find a room where you can lock yourself in. Is there a room?

0:38:530:38:57

-Toilet.

-Toilet? Toilet's very good.

0:38:570:38:59

Then you run into the toilet, you lock the door and you phone 999.

0:38:590:39:03

All right? OK? Is that fine?

0:39:030:39:05

Have I waffled on enough?

0:39:050:39:08

Yeah.

0:39:080:39:09

I reckon so!

0:39:090:39:10

You can go and play now.

0:39:100:39:12

Thank you for your time, young man. Awfully kind.

0:39:120:39:17

Lawrence has been released from police custody.

0:39:310:39:35

Helen has decided it is time to clear out the house

0:39:350:39:38

she shared with Lawrence in Lincolnshire.

0:39:380:39:41

She's going back with her dad, a family friend and her son.

0:39:410:39:45

It's going to be a fresh start for me and Joseph,

0:39:450:39:48

and it also shows to Joseph I'm serious - I'm not going back.

0:39:480:39:52

He's been through a lot, he's seen a lot,

0:39:520:39:55

and the other week he said to me, "It's my fault."

0:39:550:39:58

And I said, "No, no, no.

0:39:580:39:59

"No way in this world, Joseph, would that ever be your fault.

0:39:590:40:02

"It's his fault."

0:40:020:40:04

She has no idea where Lawrence is or whether he'll be at the house.

0:40:060:40:11

I'm nervous that someone might turn up or anything like that.

0:40:110:40:16

I'm very, very nervous.

0:40:160:40:18

I'm glad it's for the last time.

0:40:180:40:20

-OK.

-Is it everything to go?

-Everything to go.

0:40:260:40:29

SHE SOBS

0:40:360:40:40

This is awful.

0:40:450:40:48

SHE SIGHS

0:41:000:41:02

OK, better get on.

0:41:020:41:06

It's really silly. It's the silly little things

0:41:080:41:12

that we...picked up and collected together.

0:41:120:41:15

And it's just terrible.

0:41:170:41:19

As her dad, I feel gutted.

0:41:300:41:34

You don't bring them in this life to finish up like this, do you?

0:41:340:41:37

'All these years she'd been telling me everything's wonderful,

0:41:380:41:42

'great time, having a good time, everything's fine.'

0:41:420:41:45

They looked very happy together, but you never know what happens

0:41:450:41:48

behind closed doors, that old saying.

0:41:480:41:51

You never know, do you?

0:41:510:41:53

You see how nice it is in here, the good life they had...

0:41:530:41:57

and behind the scenes, terribly sour.

0:41:570:42:01

It was hard, when you walk in and you think about good memories,

0:42:060:42:11

bad memories...

0:42:110:42:13

But this really feels like closure now, and I'm actually feeling

0:42:150:42:20

really happy about driving away from here now, and that being

0:42:200:42:25

the end of it, cos that will be the end of any of my ties here.

0:42:250:42:29

And it feels really, really good to know that I'm actually gone.

0:42:290:42:34

I'm very excited.

0:42:360:42:38

I'm really excited.

0:42:380:42:40

Six months after she was assaulted,

0:42:580:43:01

Jemma has to go to defend her allegations against Dewayne Mason

0:43:010:43:05

and take her place in the witness box.

0:43:050:43:07

The statement she originally gave to the police is played in court.

0:43:160:43:20

'Obviously you realise the importance of telling the truth.

0:43:220:43:25

'If you could tell me in as much detail as possible

0:43:250:43:28

'exactly what happened.

0:43:280:43:30

'I was woken up by banging, just banging on the door,

0:43:300:43:34

'hammering the door, shouting, hammering the door.

0:43:340:43:37

'As I've got into my bedroom, I've turned around and he just headbutted me.

0:43:370:43:41

'He's just punched me.

0:43:410:43:43

'He was dragging me around the room.

0:43:430:43:45

'He just wouldn't stop, really.

0:43:450:43:47

'The room was covered in blood.

0:43:470:43:48

'I can remember thinking, in my head,

0:43:480:43:50

'like, "He's going to kill me." '

0:43:500:43:53

Jemma spends a full day being cross-examined.

0:43:580:44:02

The defence case now begins

0:44:020:44:04

and is expected to last for the next three days.

0:44:040:44:08

I feel angry that he's made me have to go through all that.

0:44:080:44:11

It was part of the evidence that was our conversation on a phone,

0:44:110:44:16

and they had what I had sent to him, but not what he had sent to me,

0:44:160:44:19

so the defence were kind of just making it up as they went along.

0:44:190:44:23

"Oh, well, he must have said something like this to you."

0:44:230:44:26

And I was saying to them, "That's not true."

0:44:260:44:30

So when they went on lunch, luckily, I'd kept the message on my phone

0:44:300:44:33

and I gave it to the police, and they copied the message off my phone

0:44:330:44:37

and showed, so you could see, obviously, both sides of it. Erm...

0:44:370:44:43

But I just think, "Imagine if I had deleted that."

0:44:430:44:47

It's really hard, knowing you're telling the truth

0:44:470:44:50

and you're being told that you're lying.

0:44:500:44:52

KNOCK ON DOOR

0:44:560:45:01

KNOCK ON DOOR

0:45:040:45:06

A month after Helen was granted a non-molestation order,

0:45:110:45:15

Lawrence Feek is arrested for breaching it for the second time.

0:45:150:45:19

OK, they're going to charge you with three counts of breaching

0:45:190:45:22

a non-molestation order, and by virtue of that breach

0:45:220:45:24

you're also in breach of your court bail conditions.

0:45:240:45:27

OK, if I could invite you to sign.

0:45:270:45:28

It's no admission of guilt, it's just to acknowledge those charges

0:45:280:45:32

-and relaying the information for the breach of court bail.

-HE SIGNS

0:45:320:45:35

Thank you.

0:45:350:45:36

Are you OK?

0:45:360:45:38

-Am I all right?

-Mm-hm.

0:45:380:45:39

Do I look all right?

0:45:390:45:40

You were staring at me. Are you OK?

0:45:400:45:43

Is that against the law?

0:45:430:45:44

No. I'm just wondering if you're OK.

0:45:440:45:46

-I don't even need to talk to you. Don't speak to me.

-OK.

0:45:460:45:49

OK, cos of the nature of...the fact you've breached your court bail conditions,

0:45:490:45:53

I have no choice but to put you before the court first thing tomorrow morning.

0:45:530:45:57

In interview, he claims he has seen Helen yet again.

0:46:000:46:05

The phone rang and it was Lawrence, and he was sobbing,

0:46:110:46:15

I mean, really crying.

0:46:150:46:17

I can't even explain how badly he was crying.

0:46:170:46:20

He sounded awful.

0:46:200:46:22

And he said that he was going to hand himself in

0:46:220:46:26

and he'd booked himself into the Travelodge in Slough.

0:46:260:46:31

The next minute, we're in Wycombe District Council offices

0:46:310:46:35

and he's...he's saying, "I'm homeless. Can you house me?

0:46:350:46:39

"I've got nowhere to sleep. I'm going to be on the streets."

0:46:390:46:42

And I'm thinking, "What?"

0:46:420:46:45

Like, "What's going on?

0:46:450:46:46

"Because you was meant to be handing yourself in.

0:46:460:46:50

"Now, all of a sudden, we're doing housing."

0:46:500:46:53

I was thinking, "Oh, my God."

0:46:530:46:55

And I started to panic.

0:46:550:46:58

And then he looked at me

0:46:580:46:59

and he said to me, "You are a cold-hearted, horrible bitch."

0:46:590:47:05

He said, "Look at you. There's not even an emotion in you."

0:47:050:47:09

He said, "You really don't care."

0:47:090:47:12

He said, "You don't care. You've not even shed a tear."

0:47:130:47:17

And then I realised, at that very moment...

0:47:170:47:20

Because there was no emotion.

0:47:200:47:22

I was...sat there like I am now.

0:47:220:47:24

No emotion whatsoever.

0:47:240:47:26

And I thought, "That's because I don't love you."

0:47:260:47:30

And I really don't.

0:47:300:47:31

Helen rang the police immediately and told them where Lawrence was.

0:47:350:47:39

Today, Lawrence is at the Magistrates' Court

0:47:390:47:42

facing three counts of breaching the non-molestation order.

0:47:420:47:46

Yet again, Helen is waiting to hear

0:47:460:47:48

whether this time he will be remanded in custody.

0:47:480:47:51

And we literally just got the update through about ten minutes ago.

0:47:530:47:56

One of my team is going to be on the phone to her, if they're not

0:47:560:47:59

physically on the phone to her in the office at the moment,

0:47:590:48:02

and they've let him out again.

0:48:020:48:03

No, I'm not, that's why I wanted to ring you.

0:48:030:48:06

Yeah, that wasn't quite what I said. I went, "Oh, for fuck's sake!"

0:48:070:48:11

You know, you sit there for hours and hours and hours

0:48:110:48:13

and, at ten past four on a Friday afternoon,

0:48:130:48:15

you get the phone call that says,

0:48:150:48:17

"Oh, no, the court's released him. Same conditions as before."

0:48:170:48:20

And you kind of go, "Hang on a minute, the conditions that he's just breached?"

0:48:200:48:24

The only positive thing, at the moment, I can take from this,

0:48:240:48:27

is that they've still gone with the Lincolnshire bail address...

0:48:270:48:31

So he should have left court and left the area

0:48:310:48:34

because one of his conditions is not to be in Berkshire.

0:48:340:48:37

I'm going to try and get somebody to go round this evening

0:48:370:48:40

and have that conversation and check that she's OK...

0:48:400:48:43

and, more importantly, check that he isn't there.

0:48:430:48:46

Come on, Dad, they've bailed him

0:48:550:48:57

-and they don't know if he's still in the area or not.

-That...

0:48:570:49:00

Hannah's just told me that.

0:49:000:49:02

So just wait a minute because I've got to phone her back.

0:49:020:49:06

Where?

0:49:060:49:08

Is he free... literally free right this second?

0:49:080:49:12

Where is...? Did somebody pick him up or is he just...?

0:49:140:49:19

How...?

0:49:190:49:20

'I don't know what planet they're on.'

0:49:230:49:25

It seems that the more charges you get,

0:49:270:49:31

the more lenient the courts get.

0:49:310:49:33

You would have thought at least they would have tagged him,

0:49:340:49:38

so they could find out where he was at any time.

0:49:380:49:41

Right? You would have thought that because he's an imminent danger,

0:49:430:49:47

they'd have escorted him to the station

0:49:470:49:50

and made sure he bought his ticket and he got on the train.

0:49:500:49:54

And then told someone at the other end to check him getting off.

0:49:560:49:59

They've now put you at risk again.

0:50:010:50:04

-The judge...

-The judge has.

-..has put you at risk.

0:50:040:50:08

Is he... You know, I'm trying to be sensible here. Right?

0:50:090:50:15

And be nice, but I'm saying to you, as your dad,

0:50:150:50:19

he's put you at risk, the judge has put you at risk now.

0:50:190:50:23

It makes a mockery of the whole justice system, doesn't it?

0:50:230:50:28

It's taken Sabrina's case almost six months to come to court.

0:50:430:50:47

Today, she will see Paul Hopkins for the first time since the attack.

0:50:480:50:53

-How are you feeling, then?

-Strange. Bit of a weird mix of emotions.

0:50:540:50:59

Like I said, I'm happy that today has come, he's going

0:50:590:51:03

to get what's due, but at the same time I do hope he's OK.

0:51:030:51:06

I'll be sad to see him go down for any length of time,

0:51:060:51:09

but at the same time I'll be pleased as well,

0:51:090:51:11

and that's the bit I can't get my head round.

0:51:110:51:13

Why would I be sad after what he did to me?

0:51:130:51:15

I don't know what to expect in the way of what he feels, you know.

0:51:150:51:19

Does he feel guilty, is he just going guilty

0:51:190:51:21

because he thinks he'll get a lighter sentence or what?

0:51:210:51:25

I just don't know.

0:51:250:51:27

Paul has just pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of ABH.

0:51:280:51:33

So Sabrina will no longer have to face cross-examination.

0:51:330:51:36

But she wants to see him being sentenced.

0:51:360:51:39

The maximum term for ABH is five years.

0:51:390:51:43

Today just feels like the pinnacle day.

0:51:430:51:45

It feels like the day everything could change.

0:51:450:51:48

This day sort of...

0:51:480:51:50

..hinders or helps the rest of my life.

0:51:510:51:54

-Sabrina, what happened?

-My world turned upside down is what happened.

0:52:150:52:20

I don't think Sabrina realised quite when she saw him

0:52:200:52:24

how she was going to react and... erm...

0:52:240:52:27

-I didn't expect to still love him!

-There was a different man sat there, really.

0:52:270:52:32

It was the man who... Before...

0:52:320:52:34

Before he'd beaten the crap out of her,

0:52:360:52:38

it was the man she probably fell in love with that was sat there,

0:52:380:52:41

and I suppose she wasn't really prepared for that.

0:52:410:52:44

I thought I was going to hate him, and I don't, I still love him.

0:52:460:52:50

It's not, though!

0:52:520:52:54

SABRINA SOBS

0:52:540:52:56

It's a very destructive feeling. Anger is a very destructive emotion.

0:52:560:53:02

He got two years, so you serve usually half of that, so a year.

0:53:040:53:08

He's served ten months already, so he's got two months left of his sentence

0:53:080:53:12

for this and then he's got nine weeks added on for the suspended.

0:53:120:53:16

'When the judge said that Sabrina

0:53:210:53:24

'was lucky to come out of the flat alive,'

0:53:240:53:27

I thought she's going to throw the book at him.

0:53:270:53:30

And the injuries that she sustained went on,

0:53:300:53:33

and you know, the weapons that was used, she went into great detail

0:53:330:53:37

about that, so...you know, he's received two years.

0:53:370:53:42

I walked in there with my chin in the air,

0:53:460:53:49

determined to send him down for as long as I possibly could.

0:53:490:53:53

And then I saw them lead him out. And I saw him sat there.

0:53:530:53:57

Then I looked at him and he looked at me.

0:53:590:54:01

And our eyes met and I could see it in his face. I could see it.

0:54:010:54:05

When his solicitor and his barrister turned round

0:54:070:54:10

and said that he was ashamed of himself, I could see that he was.

0:54:100:54:14

He went to pieces just like I did.

0:54:140:54:16

And he's being the man that I remember.

0:54:160:54:19

And all I wanted to do was run over to him and wrap my arms round him

0:54:190:54:23

and tell him, "It's OK, I'll be here.

0:54:230:54:26

"I'll be here when you come out. We can try again." And I don't...

0:54:260:54:30

I don't know. I don't know.

0:54:320:54:35

I felt anxious, to be honest.

0:54:470:54:49

I keep going over and over in my head, did it go well? Did it not?

0:54:490:54:53

You know. I feel like I have to remind myself to breathe.

0:54:530:54:57

And the jury are now out,

0:54:580:55:00

so we're just waiting for the phone call to see what happens.

0:55:000:55:03

The anxiety's built up through the week.

0:55:050:55:07

So...at least it will be over either way now.

0:55:070:55:11

Hopefully he doesn't get off and do it again.

0:55:120:55:15

You know, that's more what this was about, to be honest.

0:55:150:55:18

Imagine if I did nothing and he did it again to somebody else. You know.

0:55:180:55:22

He is a danger to women, totally.

0:55:220:55:25

Mentally and physically, he is a danger to women.

0:55:250:55:28

PHONE RINGS

0:55:370:55:40

Hello. Jemma?

0:55:430:55:45

Hello.

0:55:450:55:47

-Are you ready for this?

-Yeah.

0:55:470:55:49

Section 18, GBH with intent,

0:55:490:55:54

guilty.

0:55:540:55:55

Oh, my God.

0:55:580:56:00

Thank God. Yeah, I know!

0:56:010:56:04

Thank you, Julia, seriously, thank you so much.

0:56:050:56:08

I'm stood out here by the buses, I hope none come along!

0:56:100:56:14

Thank you so much. Thank you so much.

0:56:140:56:16

Just stay there and pour yourself a glass of something.

0:56:180:56:22

So...we got the right result at the end of the day.

0:56:240:56:27

-All right?

-Thank you, Julia.

0:56:280:56:31

All right, bye.

0:56:310:56:33

He got it.

0:56:330:56:35

I can't believe he's got it.

0:56:480:56:51

He's going to be locked up for a very long time.

0:56:520:56:55

He's gone.

0:56:570:56:58

-Who's gone? Dewayne?

-Dewayne, yeah.

0:56:590:57:02

-Yeah!

-They said he's guilty.

0:57:020:57:04

-Why are you crying?

-Because Mummy's just happy.

0:57:040:57:07

I was worried and then when it come through...

0:57:070:57:10

-It's been hard, hasn't it?

-Yeah.

0:57:110:57:14

Do you want some? Tea up.

0:57:160:57:18

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