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This programme contains strong language and scenes which some viewers may find upsetting | 0:00:02 | 0:00:11 | |
SIRENS WAIL | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
PROTESTERS CHANT | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
Ramsey has just been arrested for filming the police. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
-Back up. -Why are you standing in front of the camera? -Sir. -Sir, you've got to get... | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
Get back on that sidewalk. Go back over there and film over there. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
They hadn't told me why am I being arrested. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
This is my mom's name, Emily. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:17 | |
This was actually my first tattoo. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:21 | |
I remember I was told I wouldn't be able to get tattoos | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
unless it was mom's name. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
So, I went behind my mom's back for Mother's Day | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
and got her name tattooed, and since then, I've just been addicted to it. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
Eyes of a dead man. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
A part of my life where I felt like I didn't have no soul, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
I didn't have no heart and everything was cold around me. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
This is actually a victim to the police brutality stuff. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
This signified how cops were killing us. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:54 | |
Ex-gang member Ramsey Orta faces years in jail. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
It all started when he shot a video of his friend Eric Garner | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
being stopped by undercover officers | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
on suspicion of selling untaxed cigarettes. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
For what? | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
Every time you see me, you want to mess with me. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
I'm tired of it. It stops today. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:14 | |
This guy right here is forcibly trying to lock somebody up. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
That day changed my life. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
I wish it didn't have to happen this way. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
-Hold up, hold up. -Don't touch me, please. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
-Do not touch me. -BLEEPED OUT | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
Oh! | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
Why they doing that to him? | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
-POLICE OFFICER: -All right, right, he's down, he's down, he's down. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
-Lift your hands, buddy. -ERIC'S SPEECH IS MUFFLED -Put your hands behind your head. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
Officer had his knee on Eric's neck like this. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
And basically holding him down, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
trying to restrain him, while other officers was twisting his arm. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:01 | |
Everybody back up. Back up. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
Watching it now is like... It hurts. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
I get goose bumps | 0:03:12 | 0:03:13 | |
cos I feel like I could've done a lot more | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
than just stand there and videotape. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
He can't breathe. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:21 | |
They don't even try to take the cuffs of him and give him CPR. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:29 | |
They don't even try to put an oxygen mask over his face. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
I mean, they just left him there. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
Laying on his side with his eyes rolled back and his mouth open. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
And I'm like, "You killed him." | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
-Back up, back up. -I was here watching the whole shit. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
You watched everything. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:46 | |
You know everything. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:47 | |
I couldn't believe it at first and then... | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
I went home and took a shower and it hit me like, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
"Damn, they just killed my friend." | 0:03:55 | 0:03:56 | |
Two days after a New York City grand jury | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
cleared a white police officer | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
in the chokehold death of an unarmed black man, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
the protests are growing larger | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
and spreading the country... | 0:04:10 | 0:04:11 | |
Ramsey's video triggered demonstrations across America. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
I can't breathe! I can't breathe! | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
Hundreds shut down major highways in multiple cities. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
For many, including the city's medical adviser, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
this was a homicide caught on camera. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
I can't breathe! I can't breathe! | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
Summer, 2016. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
Ramsey's video has still not led to any arrests. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
But it has inspired a network of people | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
who use technology to watch the police. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
They're taking on the largest force in America, | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
the NYPD. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
Brooklyn, New York City. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
Dennis Flores is a government employee by day. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
By night, he runs a team that intercepts police radio | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
to film arrests as they happen. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
342 10th Street. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
Can you check if that's between 3rd and 4th Avenue? | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
Let's roll with it. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:27 | |
We want to deter police abuse. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
So, if our cameras are out there, it's going to help prevent it | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
because they know there's extra eyes on them. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
These cameras are bad-cop repellent. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
While it's legal to film the police, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
Dennis has been arrested dozens of times... | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
..sometimes aggressively. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:50 | |
So, these cops came, grabbed me, handcuffed me | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
and then body-slammed me here, like about five or six cops. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
Slammed me to the floor. | 0:05:58 | 0:05:59 | |
This one police officer grabbed his walkie-talkie | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
and cracked my head open | 0:06:02 | 0:06:03 | |
as all these other cops came and kicked me, punched me. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
And they dragged me out of here | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
and charged me with assaulting the police. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
Now, Dennis never films alone. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
He and his team have filmed multiple cases | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
of what New York's zero-tolerance policing means in practice. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
So, this is where Ray Tillery was standing | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
when he flicked the cigarette onto the street. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
The police around him, swarmed him around this entrance. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
As we see in the video, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:41 | |
right in here, in front of this dollar pizzeria shop, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
he gets arrested. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
What? What are these guys trying to do? | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
-Are they trying to handcuff him or what? -Turn around, turn around. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
Over ten police officers aggressively take him down | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
for flicking a cigarette in the street, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
something that thousands of New Yorkers do every day. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
He can't throw a cigarette butt down? | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
Come on, man. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:07 | |
For every ten people stopped by the NYPD, eight are Black or Hispanic. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:13 | |
Literally, like, the police have a licence to hurt, arrest | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
and kill people and get away with it. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
Nothing happens to them. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
Even those who intervene run the risk of arrest. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
Sebastian Lemos, he was right here and the police were arresting him. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:30 | |
-No! -And as they approached, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
the mother, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
she started telling the cops what you're doing to her son is wrong. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
She's six months pregnant. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:44 | |
She has a belly out to here. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
You see them struggling with her and he slams her to the floor. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:51 | |
He puts his knees on her back. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
She just threw her hands up. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
Another woman approaches | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
and the cop tosses her, flips her over | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
and she hits the ground and fractures her kneecap. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
SHE GROANS | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
These are crimes being committed by police officers. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
That's why cop watching is effective. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
Because here we are keeping a track of all the corrupt cops. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
We're making it public to make sure that people know what's going on | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
and this doesn't just get swept under the rug. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
Police officer shot in the shoulder. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
Now they've got an investigation of the three individuals. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
Two of them have been apprehended. The officer has got shot in the shoulder. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
And one individual's still at large. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
Anthony Miranda has spent his life in the NYPD. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
They're doing of an infrared in heat | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
to try to locate people, probably in the back-yards. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:09 | |
A senior detective, he's investigated homicides, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
organised crime and police corruption. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
They shot one cop, they wouldn't hesitate to shoot another. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
It's highly unusual | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
for a police officer to speak out against his own. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
But after 20 years of service, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
Miranda can no longer keep quiet about the behaviour of the police. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
The enforcement against African-Americans and Hispanics | 0:09:37 | 0:09:42 | |
is ten times more than it is against any other community out there. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
When cops become abusive is when the they start believing | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
the mentality that it's us against them. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
And that starts from day one in the police academy. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
Any police indoctrination that trains officers | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
to disassociate with the communities they grew up in, | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
not to identify with the people, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:02 | |
not even sometimes to identify with their own family members. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
They have no screening process whatsoever for racism. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:11 | |
They don't do it. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:12 | |
Imagine if the police department can hire somebody | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
who has a tattoo on his arm of a hanging... | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
of a black person hanging | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
and they still qualify to be a New York City police officer. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
-Have you seen that? -Yes. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
White people don't get arrested as much. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
The criminal justice system doesn't prosecute them as much. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
It doesn't charge them | 0:10:32 | 0:10:33 | |
the same way that they charge African-Americans and Hispanics. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
There's a total imbalance to the process | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
that nobody wants to pay attention to. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
Miranda is aware that by making allegations of systemic racism, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:45 | |
he's pitting himself against the NYPD. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
People say, "Well, these guys are in uniform and they're talking about discrimination. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
"These guys are in uniform and they're talking about the abuses that are going on in our community." | 0:10:52 | 0:10:57 | |
These were things that were unheard of, like, you would never do that. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
It's like you're taking your life in your own hands. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
The Police Department is the biggest gang in New York. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
You know, you mess with the Police Department | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
and the retaliation is direct and absolute. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
The NYPD has 36,000 officers... | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
..and a budget of 5 billion. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
It can control every corner of New York. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
In multiethnic areas like the Bronx, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
the department operates a fleet of mobile observation towers. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
These are deployed 24/7 in poor areas. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
The whole place is lit up. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
It's like... It is a war zone. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:51 | |
It's an occupying force. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
Crime rates have fallen to record lows. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
But Jose LaSalle, who runs the local Copwatch team, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
believes this is because the entire community is under siege. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
I'm just filming the lights all around. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
Kind of give people an idea of how police has actually took over | 0:12:12 | 0:12:18 | |
these projects in the Bronx. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
I mean, there's no problem having police, you know, around. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
My problem is when they just don't follow the proper procedures | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
and protocols and take this to a point | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
where they just become more of a harassment. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
Suddenly, Jose intercepts a police request for backup | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
on a possible domestic violence incident | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
and disappears down the road. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
Jose films as two officers lead a vocal but handcuffed man | 0:12:50 | 0:12:55 | |
to their vehicle. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:56 | |
-But I didn't do nothing. -INAUDIBLE SPEECH | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
Did I hit you? Did I hit you? | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
He's walking on his own to the car. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
By the time he reaches the police station, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
multiple officers are carrying him in. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
Jose's team seek legal advice. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
They're concerned about the way events are unfolding. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
We ran over, got over here in time to catch him | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
being pulled out of the van like a fricking sack of potatoes, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
completely inert. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:42 | |
What the police officer said that, "He hit his wife, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
"so we can do whatever the fuck we want with him." | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
And then ten minutes later, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
an ambulance is called and they brought in a stretcher, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
so we're waiting to see what the story is. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:55 | |
I'm hoping that he's alive. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
We have some video here of him being pulled into the precinct. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:03 | |
Wow. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:04 | |
We don't know what happened to this man. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
But the cop watchers have their suspicions. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
So, somewhere along inside that van, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
this black male got either knocked out, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
beat up by police to the point where he was unconscious. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
They're saying that they have the right to be the judge, | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
jury and executioner, you know what I'm saying, because he hit a woman. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
Cos, obviously, domestic violence is serious. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
And that's why there's a court system, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
you know, why there's a process. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:45 | |
You get locked up, you go to court, you see the judge. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
Their only job is to arrest people. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:49 | |
Just as the team fears the worst, there's an unexpected development. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:56 | |
Oh, they're bringing him out. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
They're taking him to the hospital. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
-Excuse me, sir, are you OK? -Excuse me, excuse me. Excuse me. -I want to know if that man's OK. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
-Hold on, hold on, hold on. -Are you OK, sir? -Stay here. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
Sir, are you OK? | 0:15:19 | 0:15:20 | |
Sir, are you OK? | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
-Back up, sir, back up, back up. -Sir, are you OK? | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
Why do I have to back up? | 0:15:28 | 0:15:29 | |
Because we need ample space over here, OK? | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
You have ample space. Why are you standing in front of my camera? | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
-Back up. -Why are you standing in front of the camera? -Sir. -I've given you space. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
-There's no cars coming, sir. I want to know that man's OK. -You're going to get hit by a car. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
-POLICE: -He's not complaining. He has to go to Lincoln. That's it. OK? | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
The police seem to have changed their story. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
They're no longer mentioning domestic violence. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
Now they're saying that the guy in there is emotionally disturbed, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
which is another way to cover | 0:16:05 | 0:16:06 | |
why they had to be so aggressive with him. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
The police refuse to give out the man's name, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
so the cop watchers were unable to find out what happened to him. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
What is this? | 0:16:28 | 0:16:29 | |
Cop watcher Kim Ortiz thinks it's only a matter of time | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
before her sons are stopped by the police. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
You know that if a police officer stops you, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
you need to be very, very careful, right? | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
-Yeah. -You need to not put your hands to your side, right? | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
And you just ask them, "Am I free to go?" | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
Or, erm... | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
Am I being detained? | 0:16:54 | 0:16:55 | |
Detained, all right. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:56 | |
Say it, so, "Am I free to go?" | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
Am I free to go or I'm being... I'm being detained? | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
Excuse me, sir, what are you doing here? | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
Can I talk to you for a second? | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
Er, yeah. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:07 | |
-SHE LAUGHS -That's not what you're going to say! -No. No! | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
No. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:11 | |
And if they say you're being detained? | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
I just need to wait there for a minute. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
You need to wait there | 0:17:15 | 0:17:16 | |
and then when you get a chance to call Mommy, you call Mommy. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
OK. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:20 | |
OK? | 0:17:20 | 0:17:21 | |
OK. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
My nine-year-old's on the autism spectrum. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
Aiden is very respectful. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:27 | |
Aiden is very peaceful. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
But he won't understand, you know, their aggressive, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
jump-out-the-car tactics, with guns in faces. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
He will not understand that. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
His mind is not equipped to understand that in that way. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
And police aren't equipped to deal with people in that way, | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
so I'm terrified, | 0:17:42 | 0:17:43 | |
especially for Aiden, because of that and, erm... | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
so I fight and, you know, hopefully, I fight enough that they don't have to march, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
that they don't have to go through all of this. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
Hopefully, something changes, but, you know, the climate is just... | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
It's just heartbreaking. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
Let me try. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
Despite working full-time, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
and raising her sons as a single parent... | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
Kim cop watches every single week | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
to make sure people know their rights. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
Do you consent to that search, sir? | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
And to gather evidence when the police step out of line. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
We can get you this video. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:22 | |
You do not have to consent to a search. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
Say, "I do not consent to this search." | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
-I don't consent to this search. -I've got this on film. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
He does not consent to a search. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
So guess what's going to happen when you get to court. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
This video? Bye-bye. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:35 | |
So, I know I come across as very aggressive and very militant, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
and I am and I'm unapologetic about it, because, like, day-to-day | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
I see police harass people and, you know, it's every day. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
Like, I can't go one day without seeing someone's rights | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
violated by police officers. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
And when you try to call them out on it, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
it's like, "Who are you to talk to me about what I'm doing? | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
Like, "Obey me." | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
So, yeah, I'm angry, yeah. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:02 | |
I'm aggressive, yes. I'm militant. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
Because I've been dealing with this shit for a long time now. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:10 | |
-OFFICER: -Stay back. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:11 | |
I'm taking one step back. I'm a reasonable distance. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
You keep your hands away from me. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:15 | |
I'm not the one. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
Yeah. I'm not the one. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
SIRENS | 0:19:21 | 0:19:22 | |
RUNNING WATER | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
-FROM VIDEO: -Yo, what's the issue? | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
Record that. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
-You need to get out of... -I work for Copwatch. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
-Get out of the street. -Go on the sidewalk. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
Ramsey Orta, the man who filmed the death of Eric Garner, | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
has been filming the police ever since. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
I told you to stay on the sidewalk. I told you to stay on the sidewalk. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
But when he is arrested filming a traffic stop, | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
his wife Bella takes over. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
We are on Baruch and Halston. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
Ramsey has just been arrested for standing off of the sidewalk | 0:20:08 | 0:20:13 | |
while filming the police arrest someone else. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
Jesus fucking Christ. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:19 | |
With Ramsey behind bars, his wife Bella alerts other cop watchers. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
Fuck this world, man. Yeah. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
The charges are obstruction of a government agent | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
and disorderly conduct. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:34 | |
Right, I'm like, that's fucking bullshit. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
I mean, it's been a crazy week. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
You know? To hear that he got arrested for filming cops. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
Once again. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
You know? | 0:20:50 | 0:20:51 | |
My understanding, he was charged with jaywalking. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
-You want your other shoelace? -SHE LAUGHS | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
Doing my job. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
After five hours in custody, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:22 | |
and convinced he's done nothing wrong, Ramsey is released. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
Before I approach any situation, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:27 | |
I'm like, "Yo, my name is Ramsey Orta. I work with Copwatch. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
"I got video footage of everything that went on. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
"Don't try to falsify reports." | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
Man, I think you're crazy still filming the police. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
For Ramsey, the battle with the NYPD is personal. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:45 | |
He doesn't want the death of his friend | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
Eric Garner to count for nothing. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
I'm not going to say they won by taking my friend. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
But they won in a sense to show that they don't give a fuck. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
But now it's my turn. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:00 | |
My main goal is to put pressure on cops. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
Once they see camera in somebody's hand or a phone in somebody's hand, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
they're quick to think twice, like, "Oh, shit, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
"I can't do what I wanted to do." | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
For Ramsey, the stakes couldn't be higher. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
He has a criminal past. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
And since his video exposing the NYPD went viral, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
he has been arrested in multiple undercover sting operations. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
Altogether, I have five bail bonds. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
Empire is covering the gun charge, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
cos that was the first case that I caught behind the video. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
And allegations I was selling drugs to an undercover. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:48 | |
His family is helping pay his bail, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
and each week he has to check in at this bail bond office. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
The names that I'm putting back on the list, it's two cases. | 0:22:55 | 0:23:00 | |
If my grandmother's on three it's cos she signed for that other two. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
OK. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:03 | |
Ramsay's lawyers, Ken Perry and Will Aronin, | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
believe these latest arrests are bogus, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
designed to discredit Ramsey. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
He doesn't have a clean record. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
But that has nothing to do with these cases. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
It does feel that they had it in for someone. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
And I do think that had he not filmed this video, we would | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
not be in this situation defending him on six or seven different cases. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:37 | |
It was more like, "OK, this guy is getting fucked completely." | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
Lawyers Aronin and Perry | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
specialise in cases of alleged police abuse. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
So, tell me what happened. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:51 | |
-FROM PHONE: -Well, first off... | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
Increasingly they are using Copwatch material in their court battles | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
with the NYPD. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
Keep on going. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:02 | |
Today, they are meeting Christian Conyers. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
It's amazing how lucky it is that this was all on video. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
As you can see on tape, I didn't commit any crime. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
CROWD SHOUTING | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
This is me right here. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
He is facing charges of resisting arrest | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
after cycling into a demo. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
But footage shot by cop watchers could be key to his defence. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
Of course, I looked, you know, to see what was going on, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
but this is where I live. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
I have every right to be here. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:35 | |
That's when he grabbed me. I had to stand up. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
If I didn't stand up, I would have fell off the bike. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
While this was going on, officers are kicking my legs. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
-They're trying to push you down. -They're pushing me down on the floor. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
SHOUTING | 0:24:46 | 0:24:47 | |
Let's...from the start for a second. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
One, two, three, four, five, six. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:51 | |
You can see me under here. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
And there you are there. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:54 | |
You have seven guys as we counted, maybe more on top of you now. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
What are you saying at that point? | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
At that point, I'm trying to tell them, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
"I can breathe, I can't breathe!" | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
I'm against the ground with three or four different officers on my back. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
How am I supposed to breathe? | 0:25:14 | 0:25:15 | |
I regard I didn't get a chance to tell any story. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
I wound up spending the night in the hospital. Just madness, man. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
Christian will be in court in a few days | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
and it's taking its toll on his family. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
My son doesn't even look at the police the same now. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
He shouldn't live in a place in which he fears the people | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
that are supposed to serve and protect him. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
-You're going to go to court? -Yeah, me and Mommy got to go to court. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
Just in case anything happens, Mommy is going to come with me. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
I mean, I don't think anything is going to happen | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
but in the event that it does, it would be better | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
for Mommy to know, because the courts are not going to call | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
and tell Mommy that they are remanding me or anything like that. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
The gulf between cop watchers and the NYPD has never been greater. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:20 | |
-We're here tonight... -ALL: -We're here tonight. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
-Because black lives matter. -ALL: -Because black lives matter. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
Each week, they meet to remember a person of colour who's | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
died at the hands of the police. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
Every Monday for over a year, we've been highlighting different cases of | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
police brutality and unfortunately we're not running out of names. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
They're going to shut down the streets, they're going to do | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
some civil disobedience to draw attention to the issue. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
REPORTER: Are they going to get arrested? | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
Most likely some of them will. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
-What do we want? -ALL: -Justice. -And when do we want it? -ALL: -Now. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
-What do we want? -ALL: -Justice. -And when do we want it? -ALL: -Now. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
-And if we don't get it? -ALL: -Shut it down. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
There is some brave people willing to | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
put their lives at the hands of the police, you know? | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
All I can do is watch their backs and film as much as I'm able to do. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:16 | |
-ALL: -Shut it down. -And if we don't get it? -ALL: -Shut it down. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
-If we don't get it? -ALL: -Shut it down. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
These two sides now view each other with complete hostility. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
SHOUTING | 0:27:32 | 0:27:37 | |
-But while you're shopping... -ALL: -But while you're shopping. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
-Black people are dying. -ALL: -Black people are dying. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
-By the hands of the police. -ALL: -By the hands of the police. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
-Put your fist in the air. -ALL: -Put your fist in the air. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
-ALL: -Our lives matter. Black lives matter. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:55 | |
-Black lives matter. -ALL: -Black lives matter. | 0:27:55 | 0:28:00 | |
Rather than target the main demonstration, | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
the police single out one of the cop watchers they know well. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
Go back and film over there. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:28 | |
This is the 75th time Dennis has been arrested. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
You've got to get back in your little space. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
REPORTER: What's happened, Dennis? | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
There are arresting me. I have no clue. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
I have no idea why they are arresting me. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
They haven't told me why I'm being arrested. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
Sir, please step back on the sidewalk. You're on the street. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
The more we report of your abuse, the more people win, | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
the more we win. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
Three, six, seven cops on somebody who was walking on the crosswalk? | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
It is our duty to fight for our freedom. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
-All: -It is our duty to fight for our freedom. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
-It is our duty to win. -ALL: -It is our duty to win. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
We must love and support each other. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
-ALL: -We must love and support each other. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
We have nothing to lose but our chains. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
-ALL: -We have nothing to lose but our chains. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
We have nothing to lose but our chains. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
Dennis is driven to the nearest police station for processing... | 0:29:15 | 0:29:20 | |
..but just two hours later, he's released on bail. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
Look what they gave me. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:28 | |
They locked me up, kept me in there for an hour and they gave me | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
a ticket for disorderly conduct, because they claim that | 0:29:32 | 0:29:37 | |
I was crossing the street when there was a red light. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
Luckily for me, I videotaped the entire thing | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
as I crossed the street. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
I made sure I documented the traffic signal. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
I don't even jaywalk when I cop watch. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
And I recorded myself being stopped in the middle of the street when | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
it was still my turn to cross and I was arrested for doing nothing. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
Kim is in court today. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:04 | |
Six months ago, she was also arrested when filming the police. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
He wasn't doing anything! | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
-REPORTER: Are you nervous about today? -No, I'm not nervous. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
I have video evidence that it was a completely bogus arrest. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
I'm not nervous at all. If anything, it's just inconvenient that | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
I have to keep taking time out to keep doing this and I'm not | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
going to fall for this bogus charge just because that's what they want. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
But when Kim's case is called, | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
the arresting officer doesn't turn up and her trial is postponed. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:47 | |
She believes it's part of a deliberate strategy | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
to wear cop watchers down. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:51 | |
The irony, I think, is that had I not shown up, I would have had | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
a warrant for my arrest, but he can come as he pleases | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
or not come at all. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
I mean, let's be perfectly honest. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:06 | |
You know, this is a white supremacist country. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
The laws, the courts, the police, everything runs on white | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
supremacy, so you have the cards stacked against you. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
If you're a person of colour, you have the cards stacked against you. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
If you're a poor person, you have the cards stacked against you. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
If you're a woman of colour. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:23 | |
REPORTER: What about people who say you're exaggerating? | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
I would ask those people to come and sit down and I would ask | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
those people to witness what we witness all the time. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
I would also be insulted because someone that would say I'm | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
exaggerating is someone that probably lives in the suburbs | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
and has no idea the issues that I'm talking about, | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
because it doesn't affect or pertain to them. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
Is there a reason behind all these arrests | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
and seemingly heavy-handed tactics? | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
One serving NYPD officer with 17 years' experience | 0:31:54 | 0:31:59 | |
is prepared to speak out. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
This was actually my graduation, one of my graduation jackets. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:06 | |
Julio Diaz is president of New York's | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
Latino Officers Association. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
-REPORTER: When was your graduation? -1999. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
He's now bringing a class action lawsuit against the NYPD | 0:32:14 | 0:32:19 | |
claiming the existence of secret and illegal arrest quotas. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
The police department will retaliate against you | 0:32:27 | 0:32:32 | |
if they think you're saying something they don't like. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
Quotas is something that they don't want people to know about. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
If you put a system now that tells police officers to go out there | 0:32:37 | 0:32:42 | |
and go stop people and here's a number and if you don't come back | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
with that number, you're going to be disciplined, | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
you're going to cause some problems with the police department, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
with some police officers because they might not know the balance now. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
They might go, "OK, I've got to get this at all costs." | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
The minority communities, Latino you African American communities | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
are being targeted as enforcement strategy by the NYPD. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:06 | |
Who are you going to target more? | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
The poor people, the people who are not going to sue you, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
the people who're not going to fight back, the people | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
that you know are not going to call a politician to come after you? | 0:33:15 | 0:33:19 | |
These are the people that are getting targeted. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
These allegations that the NYPD aggressively pursue arrest targets | 0:33:22 | 0:33:27 | |
were recently put to Police Commissioner Bratton. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
Bullshit! Bullshit is my response to that. Quite clearly. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:36 | |
If any of my cops out there still think we're pushing for the | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
summonses, etc, I'm sorry, we're pushing to reduce crime. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:44 | |
Despite this official denial, | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
Detective Miranda is adamant quotas not only exist | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
but were a key factor in the arrest of Eric Garner. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
They went out here to put his ass in jail for something that he | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
didn't do. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:07 | |
To constitute the sale, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
they had to have seen the exchange of money and the cigarettes. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
Their own reports after the incident, they never said that they | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
saw an actual exchange between Eric Gardner and anybody else. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
So if that was the premise in why you stopped him, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
your stop was illegal. Your approach to him was illegal | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
and you should never have approached him to begin with. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:31 | |
I am minding my business, officer. I'm minding my business. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:35 | |
Please, just leave me alone. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:36 | |
He said, "These guys are targeting me, | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
"they're planting evidence on me." | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
Are you seemingly wanting to mess with me? I'm tired of it. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
According to Miranda, not only were the detectives aiming to hit | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
their quota, they were also punishing Eric for daring | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
to complain about harassment. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
Prior to this, he's already made allegations against a team | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
at Staten Island. The same officers that they had planted evidence | 0:34:56 | 0:35:01 | |
on him and falsely arresting him and accusing him of a crime. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
-Don't touch me! -BLEEP | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
I can't breathe! I can't breathe! | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
To establish that they retaliated against him was easy | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
for any federal investigator, | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
anybody with authority and oversight. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
The City Council, all these people who held the hearings, nobody | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
asked the right questions because they didn't want the right answers. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
We should all be up in arms. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
Two years on and people in the community are still angry. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
They cannot understand why the police have not | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
been held accountable. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:44 | |
You telling the true story? Are you sure? | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
If it can happen to him, it can happen to my sons, you know, | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
my sisters, my brothers and it's been happening. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
To find out later when it came out and it said | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
he was not going to be prosecuted, the police officer, I lost it. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:07 | |
-ALL: -The whole damn system is guilty as hell. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:13 | |
For many New Yorkers, the fact the officers involved in the chokehold | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
death of Eric Garner face no charges while Ramsey Orta, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:23 | |
the man who filmed it all, faces years in jail, | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
shows the imbalance in the system. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
-ALL: -The whole damn system is guilty as hell. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
Ramsey knows we've had this conversation with him | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
very seriously many, many times. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
This case has to be resolved at some point. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
Do I expect that all the police officers will be saying nothing | 0:36:43 | 0:36:48 | |
but all the truth? No. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
I assume the police officers are going to be lying on the stand | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
to get done what they want, | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
to get done what they think is in their interest. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
If everything went wrong, 118 years maximum. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:03 | |
He's theoretically facing 118 years. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
For some, Ramsey is a career criminal hiding behind allegations | 0:37:08 | 0:37:13 | |
of NYPD brutality. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
To others, he's a hero. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
I exposed, literally, the modern day lynching. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:27 | |
That's what happened. They choked him to death. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
I don't regret it but I don't want to be dealing with this shit. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
I'm about to go give up some time for my life for taking a video. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
It's going to be a rough ride, | 0:37:44 | 0:37:45 | |
but hopefully I've got my head on my shoulders | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
by the time I get in there. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
-REPORTER: What's the worst it can be now? What's the worst? -Death. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
Pretty much. | 0:37:58 | 0:37:59 | |
You'll probably be doing me a favour because I haven't got to go | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
through this bullshit that I'm going through now. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
I had a great career. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:35 | |
I did, I had a great career. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
For Detective Miranda, the criminal justice system is out of control. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
He's seen the prison population of America increase by | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
2 million people and maintains each arrest, | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
trial and conviction helps hit a financial target. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
People make money from this whole process. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
This is a moneymaking system. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:09 | |
The summons generate income, the arrests generate an entire system. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
When you arrest somebody, everybody is making money. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
The courts make money, the jails make money, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
the court officers make money, the correction officers make money. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
It's a money generating system that nobody wants to correct | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
the imbalance, because if you make it fair, | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
then there won't be as much income in the system. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
That's just the reality of it. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
The city won't make the same amount of money. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
I think cop watching should be everybody. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
I think everybody who owns a camera now, | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
everyone who owns a cellphone should be a part of Copwatch. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
Every time you see something going on, you should take the picture. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:47 | |
Despite the cop watcher's video, | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
Christian Conyers is back in court today. | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
If convicted, he faces a one-year sentence. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
Go in there and do what you got to do today, man. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
Behave and do a good job today. All right? No complaints, all right? | 0:40:18 | 0:40:24 | |
-All right? -OK. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
-See you later. -Who's going to get me from school today? -Huh? | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
Who's going to pick me up from school today? | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
Either me or Mommy should be able to pick you up. All right? | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
If anything, at the most, Grandpa. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
It'll probably be me and Mommy, all right? | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
I love you. See you later. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:52 | |
Go ahead, man. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
This seems a community more divided than united by the police. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:11 | |
This is the view from my son's bedroom. Police sitting right here. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:20 | |
They're here every day, day and night 24/7. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:25 | |
Think about it. They're right here. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
It's almost like an invasion of your privacy. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
It's supposed to be New York City public housing, you know? | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
But when you come home, they sit right outside your window. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
You're not free. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:46 | |
Who's anyone to say that you're free walking around in New York City | 0:41:47 | 0:41:52 | |
or anywhere in America right now? | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
Especially being a black man. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 |