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You have to understand that homicide, murder, | 0:00:07 | 0:00:12 | |
is a completely different kind of criminal act. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:17 | |
Very few humans are actually capable of committing the act of murder | 0:00:19 | 0:00:24 | |
or attempting to commit the act of murder. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
Everybody was in their own world, in their own thoughts. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
It was almost beyond comprehension. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
Tonight, chilling 911 calls reveal Nathon Brooks' parents | 0:00:52 | 0:00:56 | |
had no idea who pulled the trigger. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
I walked into the bedroom. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
I stood at the foot of their bed, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
I raised the gun and, before I had realised that I had done it, | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
I had pulled the trigger. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
I fired again, three times in my mom... | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
..and then I swung over to my dad | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
and that is when it really clicked what I had done. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
I fired at him three times. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
I just remember thinking, gone. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
Just them being away. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
This case is a nightmare on every level. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
There is no manual for what has happened to us. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
You just feel... | 0:01:46 | 0:01:47 | |
That's all you do. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:50 | |
It is not just what happened to them, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
but who did it and what it did to their family. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
We were just doing our normal deal, it was a normal night, it was quiet. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
Nothing was going on and then the radio clicked up and... | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
..the call came over that shots were fired. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
DIALLING | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
'911, what's the address of the emergency?' | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
HE REPEATS THE ADDRESS | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
OK, tell me exactly what happened. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
'Reports of shots fired.' | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
I woke up, I have no idea why I woke up. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
As I woke up, I saw... | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
someone standing by the doorway into our bedroom. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
The next thing I remember | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
is being on the floor. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
Face down on the floor, beside my bed. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
I could tell something's wrong. I don't know... | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
I don't really know what happened. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
The blood was running down over my face and into my eyes | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
and I couldn't see. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
I was wiping my face and then flicking it off my hands | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
or wiping it on the bed. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
I kept a Glock pistol under the mattress on my side of the bed. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:20 | |
All I knew is I had to get it, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
and then I don't remember anything. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
Nathon poked his head into the room. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
I told him to come in and I had him come in and got him behind me, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:52 | |
so I'm on my knees with my gun pointing at | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
the entrance to the bedroom, | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
both my kids are behind me in the corner | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
and my wife is laying on the bed. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
She's not really moving. She's just laying there. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
I kept wiping my face and wiping my face. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
I could hear the sirens finally show up out front. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
'The police are there. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
'I need somebody to go outside without a gun.' | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
When I arrived, I saw a young man and I said, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
"Can you come down and unlock the door and let us in?" | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
He unlocked the door, let us in. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
He was a juvenile, probably 14 or 15 years old. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
I didn't think much more of him at that point. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
Once you get to the top of the stairs | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
there's a hallway, and I could hear somebody yelling, | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
a male voice yelling, "We're up here, we're up here, come help." | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
When we entered that bedroom, the master bedroom, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
you could see blood - | 0:06:09 | 0:06:10 | |
blood on the floor, blood on the bed, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
blood covering the pillows. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
There was so much blood, it was surreal. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
Beth Brooks, the mom, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
she had been shot underneath her eye, her eye had collapsed. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
She had been shot multiple times. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
She kept repeating, almost catatonic, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:32 | |
but repeating the same things over and over again. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
"Why? Why did this happen? What did I do wrong?" | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
And then the gentleman, Jonathan Brooks, he said, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
"Where do you have Nathon?" | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
What has happened, what we've dealt with, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
what we've gone through, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
is complicated beyond words. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
I was shot in the face here | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
and I think in through the finger and at the edge of the ear. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:33 | |
I think it was six shots. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
And then it was either the second or third | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
hit me on the forehead and then... | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
-It hit here. -Mm-hm. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
Bone and bullet fragments in there. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
Right there. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:53 | |
It damaged my eye, so I only have so much vision out of one eye | 0:07:55 | 0:08:00 | |
and it ruined my hearing, so... | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
pretty much deaf in that ear. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
And memory. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
Oh, and I'm still numb. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:12 | |
My neurologist said I was the first one he had ever encountered. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:24 | |
Nobody has ever come out of that. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
As well as I was, walking and talking, that was new for him. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
Beth looked at him and said, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
"Why am I alive?" | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
and he actually paused in his tracks, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
turned around and looked at her and said, "None of us know." | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
We were both diagnosed with PTSD. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
I think Beth's condition was greater than mine. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
Many, many, many, many sleepless nights. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
Nightmares. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:10 | |
Lots of issues to overcome. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
The hardest thing with this is depth perception... | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
..cos you'll go along and you'll think you're close | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
and you're not. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
You hit too soon or not soon enough and it just buggers it basically, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:30 | |
burns a hole, so that's interesting. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
I don't know, two years after all this chaos | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
I just had to have something to do. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
I couldn't sit and think about that stuff all the time. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
It kind of makes you crazy. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
So, we've been here about a year and a half. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
Part of it is that's the house that everything happened in, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
so we were actually living in the same house, | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
sleeping in the same bedroom that we were shot in | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
and it was never the same. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
There was lots of... | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
Lots of reasons to change. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
Some of them very little, very subtle, but... | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
..this seems more like a home. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten... | 0:10:21 | 0:10:27 | |
It looks like 14. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
This is Beth's. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
This is her... | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
it's her muzzle-loader, or black powder gun. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
We use that for hunting. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
This was it. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
It's not like the gun did it, but it was that gun. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
It was locked. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
I just don't know that it was locked well or good enough, obviously. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
I have to tell you, when he was born... | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
..he was wonderful. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:10 | |
Nathon was cuddly. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:16 | |
He wanted to be with you. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
He did better if he was snuggled. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
And he just... I don't know. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
I just fell for that little guy. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
Hey! | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
Say, "Hi!" | 0:11:35 | 0:11:36 | |
Hi. GIRL LAUGHS | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
'There is absolutely nothing like' | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
being a grandparent. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
It's a wonderful chance to really enjoy a childhood. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:50 | |
We have his deer head. The deer he got. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
Beth and John had it mounted. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
They chose a skeleton mount | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
as opposed to a full face fur mount. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:11 | |
Most of the hunters remember their first deer and how they felt, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:18 | |
so it was a big day for all the hunters. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
His mom was 12 years old when she got her first deer. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
It's hunting, not killing. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
It's a way of life. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
It's what we were raised with. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
Nathon, he's... | 0:12:39 | 0:12:40 | |
He's a wonderful, wonderful kid. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
He really is. He... | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
I don't know what happened. I don't know why... | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
..what happened happened, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
but it was totally out of character for him. | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
MUFFLED SPEECH | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
Just hospital clothes here, but better than nothing. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
Just throw them on over what you've got on. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
Just so you know, there's a video camera in here. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
I've just got to let you know that. You're being recorded. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
Tell me what went on down at your folks' house tonight. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
-From beginning to end? -Yeah. -OK. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
So I was asleep and I woke up and there was, I don't know, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:55 | |
a few gunshots | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
and I heard screaming, but it was more like yelling. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
I could hear my dad yelling. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:02 | |
And I ran downstairs because I heard them upstairs, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
so I figured the best place to go would be downstairs. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
So I ran downstairs and I hid over in the library area of our house. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
I sat there and I hid in that little corner... | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
..and this guy came down. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
He's a little taller than me. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
I'm guessing, three, four, maybe even five inches taller than me, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
he was a pretty big guy. But he loaded it back up. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
You could hear the, like, tink, tink, tink, | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
but it was, like, one by one. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:35 | |
It sounded like he ran back up the stairs, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
he was up there for a little bit, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
and then he ran back down the stairs, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
opened up our rear slider door and ran out the door. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
And that's the last I saw him. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
By the time I arrived at the home, obviously, Nathon was not there. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:56 | |
The scene was secure. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:57 | |
You walk through the home... | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
..and it was any other home in America. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:07 | |
His room was any other teenage boy's room in America. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
What was different about his home... | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
..was that the security cameras in the home were not on the outside, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:26 | |
looking out, they were on the inside, looking in. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:31 | |
I've never seen that before | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
and nobody I know has ever seen that before. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
So here's the deal, Nathon, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
and I'll be pretty blunt with you, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
I've known you for at least a few years. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
Do you know that your dad | 0:15:55 | 0:15:56 | |
moved one of the video cameras inside the house? | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
-No. -He did. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
OK. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
You know what the video camera showed? | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
-Hm. -Why don't you tell me what the video camera showed? | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
What went on tonight? I'm giving you a chance to be honest with me | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
because you haven't been to this point. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
When you watch the video... | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
..you see... | 0:16:23 | 0:16:24 | |
..Nathon running through the house, or moving through the house, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
in his underwear, carrying a revolver. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:35 | |
It was the kind of evidence you don't get in every case. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
It's powerful and it's undeniable. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
-You need to be honest with me, son. -You know what I've done. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
CRYING: I don't even know what I was thinking. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
Look, man, we make mistakes. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
Now is the time to talk about it, and... | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
-Not like this though. -Don't... | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
-Don't... -Kids don't just pull a gun on their parents. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
Tell me what happened, man. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
Nathon, you're a good kid. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
Apparently not. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
I almost killed my parents. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
-I don't even know if they're dead. They might be. -They're not. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
NATHON SNIFFS | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
I was mad. Everything just shut off. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
I don't... I don't even remember really what happened exactly. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
It just... | 0:18:13 | 0:18:14 | |
..went blank. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:17 | |
The next thing I know I've got a gun and it's empty... | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
..and my dad's bleeding, and so is my mom. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
Let's take it back a step. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
Where did you get the gun from? | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
The case. In the fourth bedroom. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
You can pry the doors open. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:39 | |
What kind of gun is it? | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
It's a 22 revolver, Smith and Wesson, it's my grandpa's. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
And what were you trying to do when you pulled the trigger? | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
What a gun does. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:54 | |
-Which is? -Kill. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
So your goal when you walked in there was to kill both your parents? | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
Yes. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:04 | |
I'm so stupid. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
HE CRIES | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
Now I have to go to jail. It's attempted murder. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
Where did you put the gun afterwards? | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
I threw it in the pool. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:34 | |
-NATHON'S MOTHER: -This was his favourite. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
I've got to hold this one. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:47 | |
OK, don't laugh. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
I still do that. Don't make fun of me. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
It's the first time I probably enjoyed the sweat. You know, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
you go in their room and their socks are nasty. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
It always stinks in there. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
But then when you don't get that every day, you do find yourself, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
and I will admit, I like the smell. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
These are neat. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
And they still send us these, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
printouts of his grades, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
classes he's taking, just like a report card mailed to you, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
so that's nice. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:37 | |
I still get to call him up and say, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
"Hey, what are you doing? "Pay attention. Do your schoolwork." | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
So that's very, very nice. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
Auto mechanics, A-. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
Let's see, robotics, A-. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
I believe he starts this month for college courses. | 0:20:55 | 0:21:00 | |
But he only gets to take one at a time | 0:21:00 | 0:21:01 | |
because we have to pay for it, so... | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
That's a pillow case I made him. I love that. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
This is an album I'm going to start. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
Basically, I'm just going to start putting pictures in it for him... | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
..of | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
just Christmas, graduation, birthdays. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
I keep... What do you call that? | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
..a running record of stuff going on for him. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
Things for him and things for us, so... | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
he'll have those. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
That's him jumping the four wheeler. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
I love that picture. I forget how old he is | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
but, boy, he had fun on it. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:47 | |
But it just gets closed. It never goes away. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
Nathon never goes away... | 0:22:08 | 0:22:09 | |
..and I'm grateful for that. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:12 | |
It might not be the best place for the next 13 years, but... | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
..he's around and I get to talk to him. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
I'd rather double-check than get over there | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
and realise I don't have something. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
These are visiting slips that we have to fill out every time | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
we go to visit. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:36 | |
It's basic information, you know - who you are, your relationship, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
where you live, those kind of things. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
I think I view it from my mind, like he's at school, | 0:22:47 | 0:22:53 | |
at college or university, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
and I just view it that way. | 0:22:57 | 0:22:58 | |
Knowing obviously that's not true, | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
but you go with that because it works for me. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
And we're hitting the espresso stand. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
-Yay. -Just saying. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
At the very beginning of everything, there was so many questions. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:19 | |
Basically, you know, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
"What the heck was he thinking?" | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
You know... | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
"What's going on? I don't understand." | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
-DOG WHINES -You have to wait here. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
That's his nervous goodbye. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
'It would have been very easy to get extremely angry. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:40 | |
'To go to dark places with this. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
'But I think' | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
that total disbelief and shock... | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
..protected us. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:52 | |
I think that... | 0:23:55 | 0:23:56 | |
I think it was good for us. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
Is it starting to snow? | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
-Are you ready for this? -Yes. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
Well, no, but we'll go! | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
-Whoa! Whoa! -Can't do that one yet. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
Oh, the whiplash is real! | 0:24:25 | 0:24:26 | |
You picked the worst time to record! | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
So what do you have to say for yourself? | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
I... I think about him probably ten times a day. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
I wish that... I wish that he was here because... | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
..you know, my best friend. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
Agh! | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
Pretty much like your brother getting taken away. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
Your best friend, everything that... | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
..you loved is pretty... | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
Well, pretty much gone. You know, it's hard. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
Going to do a one-hit wonder! | 0:25:18 | 0:25:19 | |
'I really like his personality. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
'He's...super, super funny guy.' | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
Geez, we would crack up and laugh at just about everything. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:30 | |
We could look at something and say something about it | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
and just start cracking up. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
Have you started recording yet? | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
Look at this lazy slob! | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
-Fuck you! -Look at me! | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
No, fuck you! | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
MUFFLED SPEECH | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
Whoa! | 0:25:45 | 0:25:46 | |
He was huge at the school. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
You know, everybody knew Nathon. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
Sports, he... On top. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
He was well liked by everybody in the school - everybody. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
He had all the girls, that's for sure! | 0:26:04 | 0:26:05 | |
But he was just always a guy that included everybody, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
even if they were, | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
I guess, the nerd of the school, | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
he would still treat everybody the same. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
That's what probably just made him so awesome. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
It has been very difficult, very, very difficult. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
It's... It's been hard. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
What was kind of going through this kid's mind, to... | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
..to do that, to do something, like, this crazy? | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
You know, there was no signs of anything | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
when I was with him, like... | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
There was nothing, like, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
unordinary with him. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
You just never ever in a million years saw it coming. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
The worst part is to find out that... | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
..you know, he emptied the gun. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
All I remember is... | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
..seeing somebody there, and, no offence, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
it definitely wasn't my son. That's not who I saw. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
But, yeah, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
when you come to it and they tell you that, it just... | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
..I figured I was dreaming. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
I figured I was having truly a nightmare | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
because that wasn't him. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
I think the fact that... | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
..Nathon was the one that shot us, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
I don't know that I'll ever be able to process that. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
I was shot and John was shot, but I had no idea who it was. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
All I remember is... | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
..seeing somebody in a black, like, a down coat that's stitched. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
And I remember trying to do that to look into the light. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:35 | |
I thought I saw a person, other than my son, I thought I saw a guy. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
Kind of middle height, kind of heavier set, | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
kind of a little puffier. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
He saw the same thing - somebody in one of those black puffy coats. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:58 | |
We had been trying to live with it for weeks and now, here it is, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:11 | |
it's fresh with her. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:12 | |
She was going through everything that we had already gone through. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
Everybody says, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
"Oh, you guys just made that person up who was in your room. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
"You knew it was your son." | 0:29:34 | 0:29:35 | |
I couldn't believe it. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:40 | |
I honestly thought I was dreaming and they were lying to me. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
I'm extremely good at bottling up emotions. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
It's one of the crutches that I used | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
a lot during this process. I still use it today. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
There's emotions, there's heartache, there's sorrow, there's... | 0:30:08 | 0:30:13 | |
..more emotional pain than I can begin to explain. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:20 | |
And I don't know whether I'm man enough to process it, | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
so the best way I can deal with it is bottle it up and put it away. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
Deal with it later. I don't have time to deal with it now, | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
I don't want to deal with it now. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:38 | |
If I did deal with it now... | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
..it could have repercussions | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
and I don't want to take those on yet. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:50 | |
Maybe someday, but not now. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
You don't have a boy that... | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
..likes to play basketball... | 0:31:08 | 0:31:09 | |
This kid, with a good heart, wanted to help. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
Whoever was in that room that night and pulled the trigger... | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
..was someone else other than Nathon. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
I walked in into the bedroom and I stood at the foot of their bed | 0:31:36 | 0:31:42 | |
and I remember I raised the gun and I aimed it at my mother first. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:49 | |
I don't know why. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:54 | |
And then I remember, like, having these really quick thoughts of, | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
"You don't have to do it." | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
But they were like so quick and suddenly gone | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
that I didn't really have a chance to really think about it. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
And before I'd realised that I'd done it, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
I'd pulled the trigger and the gun had gone off. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
I fired again and then I fired again three times at my mom. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
And then I sprung over to my dad. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
I fired again, I fired at him three times. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
I ran down the hallway, I sat down on the stairs, | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
and that's when it like really clicked what I'd done. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
And I just remember feeling | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
so much guilt and remorse and hearing my mom trying... | 0:32:37 | 0:32:42 | |
She was like trying to talk, she was trying to yell for help. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
It just sounded... | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
It just wasn't human. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
I don't remember ever thinking... | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
..death or murder or anything like that. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
I just remember thinking, gone. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
Just them being away. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
No-one deserves to ever go through what my family went through. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
I think my parents probably have a lot of questions. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
They didn't do anything wrong, and they didn't see anything wrong, | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
so then you get back to the original question of why? | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
I remember spending a lot of time thinking about it. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
The number one thing was always why? | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
Why would someone that was raised in a good family | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
and very happy and go lucky, I mean, | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
I appeared to be happy and go lucky and athletic, | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
and always doing all of these activities, all of a sudden blow up? | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
To sit there and think and not know why was terrible. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
And be stuck and knowing that you'd caused so much pain | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
and emotional pain and suffering, and it's just... | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
Not having the answer was very, very, very difficult. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
I felt really guilty about it | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
because how could I do such a thing and not even know why? | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
Immediately the human brain goes to worst-case scenarios. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
My number one fear | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
and the one thing that I remember thinking about | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
and, kind of, honestly being in denial about is | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
thinking maybe I was insane. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
I remember looking up stuff and they said, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
"You know, most people that are clinically insane | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
"don't know they're insane." | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
I just don't... I just don't know, | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
I just remember being mad and frustrated. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
What was it you said you got in trouble for? | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
-I'm sorry, you told me that. -I was late to class. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
And so you got detention, that would have been...Thursday? | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
Tell me what happened when you got home. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
My mom picked me up because she got off work early. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
She said, "Get a snack, you have chores to do. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
"So sweep all the tile in the entire house and then mop it for me." | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
I said, "OK." | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
So I swept and mopped the whole house. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
Then she goes, "OK, now, vacuum all the carpets." | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
and I said, "OK, I'll vacuum the carpets." | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
She goes, "Go into the back yard and scoop the dog poop, | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
"and fill in the holes." | 0:35:59 | 0:36:00 | |
But I've been grounded from my phone and the Xbox and TV - | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
electronics, pretty much. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
-Since how long? -Yesterday. -OK. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
All right. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
He would tell me multiple times actually | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
that his parents were a little strict on him. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
If he didn't do the most simplest things, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
he would be grounded for a long, long, long time. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
Got back from school and my dad had me doing chores. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
I'd already been grounded, so there was another... | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
my grounding had been extended. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
My dad comes in, my mom doesn't come in, which is weird, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
because normally she comes in, too. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
I said, "Where's Mom?" | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
And he said, "She's downstairs, she's kind of frustrated right now." | 0:36:59 | 0:37:03 | |
And then on his way out I remember him saying, | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
"Get some sleep because you've got a lot of work to do, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
"but you're not going to be playing in the game." | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
And it was like, he said... He said, "You got a lot of work to do." | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
And then there was a pause. And then he says, | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
"And you're not playing in the game." | 0:37:17 | 0:37:18 | |
So I was like, "The tournament?" And he said, "Yeah." | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
And it's like... That was kind of like the click. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
I mean, that was like two or three hours before. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
What probably went on in his mind that night was, you know, | 0:37:39 | 0:37:44 | |
"What do I really have to lose? | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
"I'm sitting here and I don't have any social life," | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
and he convinced himself that, | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
you know, if he... | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
got rid of his parents that... | 0:37:55 | 0:37:56 | |
..he would be able to just go and... | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
..do things that were... | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
That the other kids would be able to do. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
But of course, you know, that... | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
That's not the right thing to do, you know, ever. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
Based on all the evidence we had | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
it was pretty clear that this was a very strong case against Nathon | 0:38:25 | 0:38:32 | |
for two counts of attempted murder in the first degree. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
What was slightly less obvious was whether or not | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
he needed to be prosecuted as an adult. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
The public safety component weighed very heavily on me. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
If he was prosecuted as a juvenile, | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
that would have guaranteed that at the age 21... | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
he would be released from all supervision and incarceration | 0:38:59 | 0:39:05 | |
and be free to go anywhere and do anything. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
When I first met Nathon, he was... | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
I was very impressed with him, he was articulate and bright. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
I believe Nathon is a good person. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
I think he has a good set of values and knows... | 0:39:23 | 0:39:28 | |
right from wrong. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:29 | |
He had time to think about what was right and what was wrong and | 0:39:31 | 0:39:36 | |
what he should do and what he shouldn't do. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
And he went into the room and he stood over them | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
and he spent time to contemplate his actions... | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
..and then he determined who he would shoot first. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
You know, ultimately, with Nathon Brooks, | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
there wasn't much question that | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
what was alleged to have happened happened. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
The question was - what do we do with him now? | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
Can the community be safe if we let him out at 21 or before? | 0:40:06 | 0:40:11 | |
That's the big question. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
Is it right to give up on an individual, | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
throw someone away? | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
He was looking at a minimum of 40 years in prison... | 0:40:23 | 0:40:28 | |
..up to about 50 years. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
When the prosecutors were talking 50 years for Nathon Brooks, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
essentially what they were saying is that is a life to throw away. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
I don't agree with that, not in Nathon Brooks' case. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
This is Nathon's room. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
This is where he... | 0:41:04 | 0:41:05 | |
..slept and... | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
studied the 13 months that he was here with us. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:13 | |
It's not much, but I think he liked it and was happy. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
Getting him out on bail was important. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
It was a sad time, but it was a special time. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:28 | |
You know, I talked to Nathon before and he says, | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
"These people are afraid of me. I'm not going to hurt anybody." | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
He says, "I just can't believe it. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:38 | |
"I'm not going to do any harm to anybody." | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
Was it an act of mercy? | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
I mean, it ended up being that way. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
He asked me if I was afraid of him. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
And I told him that | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
I was uncertain of him, and he told me, he says, | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
"Granny, if you're afraid of me, I won't go." | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
And that was good enough. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
Because I know that he wanted to get out, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
but he wouldn't do it if I was afraid of him. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
So... | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
..that made my decision. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
There was a few reservations, I think, at first. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:30 | |
When he came home, of course, | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
we had to get all the guns out of the house, | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
so we were talking about that. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
And I said it was really... | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
..kind of inconsequential because, you know, | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
there was a whole rack full of knives | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
but that if he ever cut my throat, I'd haunt him! | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
So, yeah, | 0:42:54 | 0:42:55 | |
that kind of broke the ice. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
My wife and I were stuck in a very odd position. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:09 | |
The prosecutor's office wouldn't talk to us because | 0:43:12 | 0:43:16 | |
we were the parents of the accused. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:21 | |
The defence attorneys wouldn't really talk to us because | 0:43:21 | 0:43:25 | |
we're the victims. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:27 | |
So we didn't really know what was going on with the case. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:31 | |
But we felt Nathon did need to be punished for what he had done. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:38 | |
We came to the realisation | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
we couldn't provide the treatment that Nathon needed. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:46 | |
The court could provide that. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
To go up there and say, | 0:43:50 | 0:43:52 | |
"Yes, my son needs to be put in jail for what he did." | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
That was difficult to come to. | 0:43:58 | 0:43:59 | |
That took lots of conversations, lots of heartache. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:06 | |
Prosecution wanted us to go all-out, and we said, | 0:44:11 | 0:44:17 | |
"No, because he's our son." | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
So we were just kind of left out | 0:44:22 | 0:44:24 | |
because we were parents and we still loved him and... | 0:44:24 | 0:44:28 | |
we didn't... | 0:44:28 | 0:44:30 | |
want to help with his sentencing. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
To try to convince someone that | 0:44:37 | 0:44:40 | |
ten years was an appropriate length of time, | 0:44:40 | 0:44:44 | |
it was like you were bargaining with somebody's life... | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
..because at the end of the day, that's what we were doing. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:51 | |
That process - I was angry about that. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
I wasn't good enough at it, I guess. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:01 | |
This case is not a whodunnit. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:25 | |
It's a "whydunnit". | 0:45:25 | 0:45:27 | |
Why did he do it? | 0:45:27 | 0:45:29 | |
When you prosecute people who are in a gang | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
and they commit a gang murder, you know why they did it - | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
they did it because it was part of the rules of the gang. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:38 | |
There is a motive. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:40 | |
Why would someone go and try to shoot their parents? | 0:45:41 | 0:45:44 | |
I know at least when I was involved with him | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
it was a big question in his mind is, | 0:45:46 | 0:45:48 | |
"Man, how did that happen? That doesn't seem like me." | 0:45:48 | 0:45:52 | |
Did you ask him why? | 0:45:53 | 0:45:56 | |
We did, yeah... | 0:45:56 | 0:45:57 | |
..and he didn't have an answer. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
If there is no answer to the question why, | 0:46:03 | 0:46:07 | |
if there is no reason why he did what he did... | 0:46:07 | 0:46:11 | |
..that's maybe the most troubling outcome there could possibly be. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:17 | |
Nathon was kind of a high-profile case, though, | 0:46:24 | 0:46:27 | |
so we all kind of had heard about it before, you know, | 0:46:27 | 0:46:31 | |
just on the news and stuff. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:32 | |
Nathon is very much an introvert, he keeps everything inside, | 0:46:35 | 0:46:40 | |
and I'm sure he probably grew up that way | 0:46:40 | 0:46:42 | |
because that's generally how they are. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:45 | |
He does keep a lot inside and, you know, | 0:46:47 | 0:46:49 | |
just watching him and talking to him, | 0:46:49 | 0:46:51 | |
he doesn't even have a lot of facial expression when he talks. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:55 | |
But it's all in there | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
and when you get to know him more, | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
you notice little smiles and little smirks, or... | 0:47:01 | 0:47:04 | |
Even though he appears like he might be unemotional, | 0:47:04 | 0:47:08 | |
he is probably one of the more emotional kids | 0:47:08 | 0:47:11 | |
I get to deal with. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:12 | |
We've been able to watch him for a few years. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
We haven't seen any personality disorders. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:22 | |
There's been no antisocial traits with him. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:26 | |
I don't see any piece of him that... | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
..would give anybody the cause to believe that he was psychotic. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:36 | |
We haven't seen anything that would lead anybody to believe | 0:47:38 | 0:47:42 | |
that he's not of normal, average intelligence, | 0:47:42 | 0:47:45 | |
with normal, average abilities for things. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:48 | |
He's a very smart, very kind person. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:52 | |
He loves his family, he's very close to them, | 0:47:54 | 0:47:57 | |
it's obvious when you see them together | 0:47:57 | 0:48:00 | |
that they are very, very bonded. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:03 | |
We want to know, you know, as a community, we want to know, | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
why did this happen? | 0:48:09 | 0:48:10 | |
And we want to be able to blame it on, you know, | 0:48:10 | 0:48:13 | |
socioeconomic background, abuse at home. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:16 | |
Was Nathon being abused? | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
It just doesn't appear any of that was there. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:22 | |
Nathon's diagnosis when he first arrived, | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
it was oppositional defiant disorder, ADHD and possible bipolar. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:40 | |
The psychiatrist, he never takes what he's given as the final word. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:49 | |
He wants to do his own diagnosis. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:52 | |
And so he worked with Nathon on coming off his medications | 0:48:52 | 0:48:58 | |
to see really what symptoms he had. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:00 | |
After he was taken off his ADHD medication, | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
he was doing great in school, | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
he was getting good grades, he was focusing, | 0:49:07 | 0:49:09 | |
he was doing what he needed to. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:11 | |
He was following the rules, he was being appropriate, | 0:49:11 | 0:49:15 | |
so we determined he didn't need that ADHD medication. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:18 | |
But he had some pretty severe depression. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:26 | |
I mean, he was a pretty severely depressed guy. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:29 | |
So he ended up with the diagnosis of major depressive disorder. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:37 | |
This time now it is in remission. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
He's feeling good, he's stable. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
There's been quite a few different medication changes | 0:49:47 | 0:49:49 | |
to figure out what works with him. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:51 | |
I was diagnosed with major depressive disorder. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:59 | |
It's just... | 0:50:02 | 0:50:03 | |
It's a relief to know that something else wasn't seriously wrong, | 0:50:03 | 0:50:06 | |
and that I could get help. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:08 | |
I mean, I'm not crazy or an animal or anything like that. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:14 | |
A lot of times, in younger people, | 0:50:18 | 0:50:20 | |
the depression comes out as irritability or anger. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
You feel worthless, hopeless, | 0:50:23 | 0:50:26 | |
extremely down, extremely depressed. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:30 | |
This goes on for a few week period of time. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
Some of the things that Nathon indicated were harsh punishments | 0:50:36 | 0:50:40 | |
in other households are chores. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:42 | |
You know, in many homes, that's part of the duties of home. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:48 | |
But in Nathon's mind, it was harsh punishment, | 0:50:48 | 0:50:52 | |
and what was in his mind was the key. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:54 | |
The diagnosis has brought a lot of things to light. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
I mean, it helps me to really understand why I did what I did. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:06 | |
There was aggression and depression and... | 0:51:07 | 0:51:11 | |
there just wasn't any way for me to deal with it. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:13 | |
I didn't understand, I didn't know why and I was lost. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:16 | |
Oh, I look back daily on whether or not I was too tough on him | 0:51:23 | 0:51:29 | |
and, no, I don't think I was. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:31 | |
Honest, he was my child | 0:51:34 | 0:51:38 | |
and he was loved dearly. That never changed. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:42 | |
I had no idea of what he was going through | 0:51:45 | 0:51:49 | |
or he thought differently of it. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
Honest to goodness, I had no idea and I don't know that Nathon did. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:57 | |
I understand the medical side. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:06 | |
But the fact at the end of the day, | 0:52:09 | 0:52:11 | |
he still chose to do what he did. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:13 | |
That I... I struggle with. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:21 | |
I'm still confused by that. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:25 | |
I still don't... | 0:52:27 | 0:52:28 | |
I don't understand how someone would do that. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
I don't know, I don't think that's something I'll... | 0:52:37 | 0:52:41 | |
..ever truly, fully understand. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:45 | |
It's just, maybe it's beyond my ability to get. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
I just think it's really great that he still has them in his life | 0:53:01 | 0:53:06 | |
and they welcome him back with open arms | 0:53:06 | 0:53:10 | |
and they have been able to work on that relationship. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:12 | |
Look at that! | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
Is he going for the Santa Claus look? | 0:53:26 | 0:53:29 | |
-Hey, buddy. -How's it going? -Good. -Yay! | 0:53:29 | 0:53:33 | |
Oh, God, I miss you. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
So... | 0:53:43 | 0:53:45 | |
..when does the beard-shaving month end? | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
It was supposed to be tomorrow. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:51 | |
Supposed to be? That sounds like... | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
-I'm deciding. -Ah. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:55 | |
I'm deciding on whether or not I still want to do it. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:58 | |
That is mighty scruffy. | 0:53:58 | 0:53:59 | |
It's a lot of work to shave all that off, I'm telling you. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
So, how are your teeth? | 0:54:04 | 0:54:05 | |
How's the pulled one? | 0:54:06 | 0:54:08 | |
-Pulled... -Pulled area? -Where they pulled the molar? | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
Or the wisdom teeth? | 0:54:11 | 0:54:12 | |
They pulled both of them. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:13 | |
They did both? | 0:54:13 | 0:54:16 | |
-Did it hurt on both sides? -I got holes on both sides. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:18 | |
I think they're both gone. I don't remember. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:21 | |
Whatever they gave me was like for a gorilla. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
So, let me see. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:27 | |
-Wow! -Does it look like it's missing? | 0:54:30 | 0:54:33 | |
Yeah. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:36 | |
Well, be darned. Looks good. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:37 | |
-You brushing? -No. -No. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:42 | |
I need to brush more. | 0:54:42 | 0:54:44 | |
You saw that? I don't know what it is. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:46 | |
What happened? | 0:54:46 | 0:54:47 | |
I don't know. It just showed up. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
-Oh, but you didn't get hurt or anything? -No. -OK. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:53 | |
No, it just showed up. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:55 | |
'I... I remember... | 0:54:55 | 0:54:57 | |
'the very first meeting, | 0:54:57 | 0:54:59 | |
'and that's when I repetitively told them that it wasn't their fault' | 0:54:59 | 0:55:02 | |
cos I was really worried that my parents took too much blame | 0:55:02 | 0:55:05 | |
for what happened, and they blamed themselves. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:07 | |
And they'd said several times that they should've noticed | 0:55:07 | 0:55:10 | |
and they should've known that I had a mental illness. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:12 | |
And I just remember telling them... | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
.."I didn't know, so how could they?" | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
The fact is, it is my brain, only I will... | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
I'll know before everyone else will. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:23 | |
My biggest fear was that they blamed themselves way too much. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:30 | |
They made it way too hard on each other and... | 0:55:30 | 0:55:33 | |
I personally feel like that had, I mean, some effect on the marriage. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:39 | |
I mean, that was really the hardest part was to prevent that | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
from tearing the family apart and to work towards keeping it together | 0:55:43 | 0:55:48 | |
long enough to where I could receive treatment and... | 0:55:48 | 0:55:54 | |
I mean, just become a family again. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:57 | |
-All righty. -Give me a hug, son. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:01 | |
Hey! Where'd she go? | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
It's going to be a really long healing process. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
I don't know how someone would ever heal from that. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:16 | |
I know that it helps that his parents love him unconditionally. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:21 | |
-Love you, Dad. -Love you, buddy. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:24 | |
-Love you. -Love you too, son. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:28 | |
But I still also don't think that... | 0:56:31 | 0:56:34 | |
..that him and the family have openly talked about it a lot, either. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:40 | |
It's kind of like to the side right now | 0:56:41 | 0:56:43 | |
and maybe at some point when people are stronger, | 0:56:43 | 0:56:45 | |
when their emotions are stronger, | 0:56:45 | 0:56:47 | |
they'll be able to talk about it more. | 0:56:47 | 0:56:50 | |
-Love you. -Love you too, sweetheart. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:52 | |
-NATHON'S GRANDMOTHER: -'I can't... | 0:56:57 | 0:56:59 | |
'I really can't explain it. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:01 | |
'I can't explain how you can... | 0:57:01 | 0:57:03 | |
'..love your daughter so much...' | 0:57:05 | 0:57:07 | |
..and yet love the person that shot her so much. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:13 | |
I can't explain it, except... | 0:57:13 | 0:57:15 | |
..how can you not love your grandson? | 0:57:17 | 0:57:19 | |
You know, you just, you just do. | 0:57:22 | 0:57:25 | |
He was always a good kid, and you cannot just turn the love off... | 0:57:28 | 0:57:34 | |
..for the boy that you've always known. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:38 | |
It just doesn't work that way. | 0:57:38 | 0:57:40 | |
There's no manual for handling what's happened to us, | 0:57:41 | 0:57:45 | |
you just feel. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:46 | |
That's all you do. | 0:57:48 | 0:57:49 | |
It could be so much worse. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:56 | |
You can look at it as, some parents have lost their children. | 0:57:59 | 0:58:04 | |
So we are blessed as parents by, we still have our children. | 0:58:07 | 0:58:14 | |
I'm glad that we didn't die just for Nathon, | 0:58:14 | 0:58:17 | |
so that Nathon never has to carry that. | 0:58:17 | 0:58:20 | |
Mm-hm. Exactly. | 0:58:21 | 0:58:23 |