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In May 2016, 20-year-old Michael Sandford's parents reported | 0:00:03 | 0:00:09 | |
that he'd gone missing in America. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
23 days later, | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
he turned up at a Donald Trump campaign rally in Las Vegas. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:21 | |
LOUD CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
I will build a great, great wall. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
Shortly after Trump took to the stage, | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
Michael approached a police officer. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
Seconds later, he attempted to grab the officer's gun. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:50 | |
CHEERING | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
Oh, we love our police. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
When questioned by the Secret Service, Michael stated | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
he'd wanted to shoot and kill Trump, | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
saying he was a racist that deserved to die. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
But how did a young British man from Surrey end up | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
trying to assassinate the most controversial | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
and high-profile man in the world? | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
Donald J Trump! | 0:01:30 | 0:01:31 | |
We've always just been a very, very close family unit. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:36 | |
He thought Donald Trump was the worst thing for the world. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
This is not a hardened criminal. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
This is just a young kid who found himself in an awful situation. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
He tried to assassinate him. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
He was a wolf in sheep's clothing. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
Michael is due to be sentenced, and could face decades in prison. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
Michael Sandford could have altered the course of American history. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
But were these the actions of a boy | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
with a history of mental health problems? | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
He seemed a totally different personality from the boy I'd known. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
He's going to spend his 21st birthday in prison. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
Someone who really shouldn't be there. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
Or was it a premeditated attack? | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
When Michael was shooting, he was doing this. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
Who was he working for? | 0:02:21 | 0:02:22 | |
Maybe he got radicalised. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
There's nothing I can tell him that will make his situation any better. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
And I just want my son back. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
-AUTOMATED MESSAGE: -'This call is from an inmate facility.' | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
Hi, son. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
What have you been up to today so far? | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
Yeah. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:11 | |
What have you had to eat today? | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
So, was porridge not for breakfast today? | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
That wasn't very clever, was it? | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
Is that because you were shaking? | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
Have you had any more seizures? | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
Oh, dear, sorry to hear that. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:37 | |
It's very hard to know that he's there, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
and we're so far away from him. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
All the calls are recorded and monitored. It's very impersonal. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
Sometimes he begs me not to go, and he rings me back again. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
He says, "I just want to keep hearing your voice, Mum." | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
'I know we're down to our last minute, aren't we? | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
'I love you so much.' | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
'Yeah, you, too, son. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
'Take care and look after yourself.' | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
'Yeah. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:22 | |
'I hope you manage to get something else to eat today.' | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
Love you too, darling. Jessica does, and Len does, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
and Dad does, and Mischief does... | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
-AUTOMATED MESSAGE: -'Your time is up.' | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
Got cut off. 15 minutes, that's all you get. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
I feel weary. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:40 | |
It's just the same every day. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
A phone call, I ask him what he's done, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
and the answers are always the same. What he's had to eat. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
You know, it's not a life. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
It's barely an existence for him out there at the moment. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
Just knowing that he's where he is, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
I'm powerless to do anything about it, | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
is...impossibly hard. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
Michael's currently being held in a maximum security prison | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
in Nevada's Death Valley while he awaits sentencing. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
After admitting trying to kill Trump, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
he's answered a plea bargain in a bid to reduce his sentence | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
but still faces the possibility of a lengthy jail term. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
This is one of the most high profile cases I've dealt with | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
and, certainly, it's a very complex case. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
The government will be arguing that this was not something | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
that was a spur of the moment type of crime. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
This was something that he had been...that had been calculated. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
They're going to be arguing this was in fact a very dangerous situation | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
that could have resulted in somebody being murdered. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
The maximum, under the law, is 20 years for Michael. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
So he could be looking at many, many years in prison. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
Before moving to America, Michael lived in Surrey with his mum | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
and half sister Jessica. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
I think that one's really cute. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
Probably his first-ever smile. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
None of us had any idea what was ahead for us back then. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
You know, I sit and look at these pictures of him, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
as this angelic little boy. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
I think it's so tragic this is where his life is at. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
Especially someone who really shouldn't be there. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
He was very bright and bubbly, and cute, and sweet, and adorable. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
He was the apple of our eye. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:03 | |
'You're doing a bunny? | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
'Oh, you're doing a happy smiley face.' | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
But I think we first noticed that there might be problems | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
when he was two. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
He would become quite hysterical | 0:07:16 | 0:07:17 | |
when we would throw quite ordinary things in the rubbish bin. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
That was the first sign that he had some form of OCD. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
This, oddly enough, his key collection. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
He enjoyed collecting keys. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
When Michael was about eight, his mood started to change. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
They were quite erratic at times. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
He seemed to become quite depressive and quite angry. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
-Hello! -Hello! | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
I wondered if, because by then I'd split up with his father, | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
I wondered if it was some anger at the break-up. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
But his mood swings and erratic nature | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
were starting to concern me by then. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
It says, "Michael Sandford, my autobiography, age 13." | 0:08:02 | 0:08:07 | |
It goes through all the usual things. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:08 | |
"My name is Michael Sandford. I am 13. I live in Dorking | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
"with my mother, budgie and hamster." | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
This bit is...pretty sad. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
"I'm wondering what the world is coming to. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
"They say the world will end when the sun blows up | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
"in five billion years | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
"but I believe humans will destroy it long before then." | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
That was something he was very worried about. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
He was very worried about mankind. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
I guess that's been mirrored by what he said about Donald Trump. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
He thought Donald Trump was the worst thing for the world. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
When Michael was 13, he was diagnosed with Asperger's, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
a condition associated with difficulties in social interaction. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:54 | |
He was just falling apart. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:56 | |
He was losing his grip on the world, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
not knowing how to fit in or cope. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
At secondary school, he was bullied. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
He deliberately tried to run out in front of cars sometimes, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
in the hope he'd get knocked over, to avoid going to school. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
I very much feel the system failed Michael. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
I took him for help so many times over so many years, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
and nobody did anything, until it became almost too late. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
Aged 14, Michael developed severe anorexia as a result of his OCD, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:32 | |
and had to be sectioned to a psychiatric hospital. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
He had said, "Life isn't worth living, I find it too hard." | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
I was really frightened that I was going to lose him. I was terrified. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
'Off you go. Bye!' | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
What are you drawing? | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
A rainbow. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
-Who's that for? -Michael. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
Because I love him. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
He's very nice and good and he wasn't very well | 0:10:08 | 0:10:14 | |
a long time ago and he did something wrong. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
So that's why he's in there now. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
Michael's parents separated | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
when he was five years old, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:28 | |
but he has always remained close to his dad, Paul. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
We all know our children, we all know their personalities. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
If you're honest with yourself, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:47 | |
you know whether somebody has the potential | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
to do something like that or not. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
He's never shouted, he's never screamed at me. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
That violent aspect of some kids' natures | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
just wasn't there with Michael. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
Michael had never shown any interest in politics at home or abroad... | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
..but Paul noticed a significant change when visiting him in prison, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
following his arrest. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
He seemed very politicised, very radical. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
Very logical, but very highly... | 0:11:18 | 0:11:23 | |
motivated about Mr Trump and the effect that he may have | 0:11:23 | 0:11:28 | |
on the American people. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
Just a totally different personality from the boy I'd known. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
Um, I've got a little box for all his memories here, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:39 | |
all the things like the newspaper cuttings from before. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
Obviously, newspaper cuttings from now. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
Has he not told you why he did it, or what was going through his head? | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
No, I mean, it's very difficult for him to say anything to us. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
Everything he says and everything he does is monitored. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
He will tell us about it all, I hope, when he's back home, | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
but at the moment he's not told us anything, really. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
I mean, I think... Although it's quite a...a morbid thing to do, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:08 | |
but when Michael comes out I'm sure he's going to be quite interested | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
in the news coverage from back home. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
Why do you think he did it? | 0:12:15 | 0:12:16 | |
The only thing I can possibly think of is... | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
He's been coerced. Groomed. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
Whatever word you'd like to use. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
I mean, whether it was a structured group | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
or whether it was just a few people with a political agenda | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
to kill Donald Trump, I don't know. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
Asperger's can make you look at things very black and white. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:43 | |
I think they saw Michael and saw he was vulnerable. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
Um, I think they saw a way | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
to coerce him to do what they wanted him to do. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
I think whoever he was with, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
um, has given him ideas, because he wasn't my Michael. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
Aged 18, Michael told his parents he was planning to move to America, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
to be with a girlfriend he'd met online. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
He just wanted to spread his wings, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
have a bit of independence and attempt to lead a normal life. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
He said he had to go or he would attempt suicide again. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:25 | |
He's 18, he's an adult. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
He's a vulnerable adult, but you can't stop him doing anything. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
Michael's family used inheritance money | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
to pay for a year's rent on a flat in Hoboken, | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
overlooking New York. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:44 | |
He was the smallest, skinniest person I'd ever met. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:52 | |
The most polite person that I'd ever met. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
Michael never mentioned any girl to me, or friends or anybody. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
As a matter of fact, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:00 | |
I think I recall him saying he knew nobody here. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
If Michael moved to Hoboken for other reasons, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
I don't know. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:08 | |
It does make you start to wonder. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
Initially, we heard from Michael all the time. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
But his behaviour became erratic. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
Sometimes we'd hear from him, sometimes we wouldn't. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
He turned very nasty at one point. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
He said to me, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:31 | |
"You've no idea how much I hate, loathe and despise you." | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
And that was the final straw for me. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
I said to him, "Who is putting these thoughts in your mind?" | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
Because he'd always been so loving. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
On the 26th May, 2016, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
having lost all contact with Michael, | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
Lynne reported him missing to the authorities. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
I was worried out my mind. | 0:14:58 | 0:14:59 | |
I could only see it ending in a disaster. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
During this period, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
police now believe he'd been living out of a BMW | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
bought using the money he'd been given for rent. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
Michael didn't surface again until the day of his arrest. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
-NEWSREADER: -Our headlines this morning, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
Donald Trump is celebrating his astonishing victory... | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
Five weeks before Michael is due to be sentenced, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
Donald Trump's remarkable rise to the White House is confirmed. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
-NEWSREADER: -The Republican businessman | 0:15:37 | 0:15:38 | |
defeated his Democratic rival, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
scoring decisive victories... | 0:15:40 | 0:15:41 | |
..confounded the pollsters and media pundits, who predicted... | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
So what does the rest of the world make of these seismic events | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
that took place overnight in America? | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
We're going to get the view from London, Europe... | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
I was up all night watching the results, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
it's obviously only been announced in the last hour or so. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
There's no getting away from it now. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
I mean, he is going to be president for the next four years | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
and, like it or lump it, you know, we've got to get on with it. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
It's a result that could have an impact | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
on the length of Michael's jail term. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
We have sentencing coming up next month, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
and whether Donald Trump will choose to make an example of Michael | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
remains to be seen. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:21 | |
Thank you. Thank you very much, everybody. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
You know, he was looking forward to sentencing | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
and hoping that there might be a favourable outcome, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
but I think the result | 0:16:30 | 0:16:31 | |
casts a potentially very big shadow over that. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
Now it's time for America to... | 0:16:34 | 0:16:39 | |
I'm very worried that he will either lose his mind completely | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
or commit suicide, if he had the opportunity. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
It's just made everything so much harder | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
and so much more complicated for Michael. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
For those who have chosen not to support me in the past, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:59 | |
of which there were a few people... | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
I feel powerless. You know, I want to be able to... | 0:17:02 | 0:17:07 | |
to keep him strong and to give him hope, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
but a lot of that hope was dashed last night with the outcome of this, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:14 | |
you know, and it's made the future so much more uncertain for him. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
-NEWSREADER: -..political experience, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:19 | |
and one who's just caused the biggest political upset | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
in American history. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:23 | |
Michael is being kept in solitary confinement | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
and gets most of his news from his mum. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
Have you heard about the election results? | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
You haven't, OK, well, Donald Trump did get in, in the end. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
So... | 0:17:46 | 0:17:47 | |
I realise, you know, in many ways, a bad situation just got worse, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
for you, but, uh... | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
But you do understand | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
that what you attempted to do wasn't right, don't you? | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
I know that, Michael, I know that. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:11 | |
-RECORDING: -You have one minute remaining. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
Michael has now reverted back to being the loving son he always has. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:22 | |
He sent us letters and cards | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
and drawings that he's done. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
And every time he says, "I love you, I love you, I miss you, I need you." | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
When Michael did move out to America | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
I redecorated my bedroom. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:15 | |
Just get me thinking about him a bit more, I guess. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
Paul is flying out to meet Lynne in Las Vegas, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
ahead of Michael's sentencing. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
It's been probably ten years since I've been abroad. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
He needs that support. With that support it'll be all right. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
Michael's mental health has deteriorated | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
since Trump was confirmed as the President-elect | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
and he's been placed on suicide watch. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
He's become quite depressed, | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
and now I think he wants to get the sentencing over and done with | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
so at least he'll know what's happening to him. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
We hope it's going to be OK. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:51 | |
We hope they're going to take into account Michael's conditions, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
but we have been told that it's not something the American system | 0:19:54 | 0:19:59 | |
tends to really, um, look into. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
He is flesh and blood, he is my boy. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
And, um, he's lonely and scared. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
I mean, he's got no family out there, he's got nobody to see him. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
He's in a prison where there are lifers | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
who support Trump. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
They've got nothing to lose, really. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
I still lie awake a lot of the times at night, expecting that phone call | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
saying there's been an incident. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:26 | |
Something's happened in the detention centre. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
To be honest, I'm really worried | 0:20:31 | 0:20:32 | |
somebody's going to try and kill him. I really am. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
I've started on sleeping pills and antidepressants, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:40 | |
because there's been a number of nights where I haven't slept | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
for two or three nights in a row | 0:20:42 | 0:20:43 | |
and, uh, obviously then you start to get really down and tired. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:48 | |
I've got to do it for Michael. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
You just get over it and get it done with. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
I'm trying to get my son home. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
With Michael's sentencing just days away, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
his legal team are putting the final touches to their case. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
So we put together - I asked Lynne to send me a bunch of pictures, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
so we need to call the court later on and make sure we can play these | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
while we're arguing for sentencing. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
The problem is, the control we have | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
over what happens to him when he's in prison | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
is fairly minimal, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:28 | |
but the control we do have | 0:21:28 | 0:21:29 | |
is to limit the amount of time that he needs to spend there. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
Michael's plea bargain means he's pleaded guilty | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
to impeding and disrupting government business | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
and being an illegal alien in possession of a firearm. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
The reality is that you have Michael admitting | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
that he tried to assassinate what is now President-elect Trump. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:49 | |
He could face up to 20 years in jail, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
unless his defence team are successful in proving | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
he was suffering from a psychotic episode. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
And, frankly, I don't think that was Michael Sandford, | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
that's certainly not the Michael | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
I have come to know in the last few months. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
But that's the only Michael | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
that the government's portraying at sentencing. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
I think that Michael has suffered | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
from a variety of different mental health conditions | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
and what he said and what he did was really not him, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:20 | |
but a condition that needs to be treated. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
The arguments are ready, everything's been filed, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
so I think right now it's really just a matter of wait and see. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
On his arrest, the Secret Service conducted a thorough investigation, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:38 | |
tracking Michael's movements leading up to his assassination attempt. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
In the boot of his car, detectives found the used target | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
that led them to a firing range | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
less than a mile from where the rally took place. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
It's going to be really loud. | 0:22:58 | 0:22:59 | |
That's why we got to wear... | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
All your protection. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
Michael attended the shooting range the day before the rally. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
He would later tell detectives that he'd considered buying a rifle | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
to shoot Trump from long distance | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
but claimed he was unable to acquire one. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
GUNSHOTS | 0:23:20 | 0:23:21 | |
This is the Glock 17, the one that Michael shot. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
We're going to load it into the magazine, | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
and then we're just going to... | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
Slide goes forward. Ready to go. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
Josh was the range safety officer that attended to Michael. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
Honestly, there was nothing off of him | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
when he came in. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
He shot 20 rounds. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
He was shy, he was nervous, just like any other customer. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
But I would have never thought | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
that he was practising for an assassination, ever. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
Glock 17s are standard issue for law enforcement here in this country. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:59 | |
An experienced shooter, they don't anticipate the rounds, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
you don't shoot down. You're pretty much just keeping that gun forward. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
Which will look something like this. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
You're forward... | 0:24:09 | 0:24:10 | |
GUNSHOT | 0:24:11 | 0:24:12 | |
When Michael was shooting, I'll see if I can get it right. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
I'm going to miss on purpose. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
He was doing this. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:21 | |
GUNSHOT | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
He was shooting the ground. He was not a good shot, of course, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
just like any other shooter who has never shot | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
and has adrenaline kicking in and is really nervous. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
They usually shoot really low because you're flinching, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
you're so nervous. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:38 | |
He was just an ordinary customer. He seemed like a good kid, actually, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:45 | |
he just looking like he had innocence in him, you know, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
like he couldn't hurt a fly or anything. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
He seemed like a really nice guy, you know? | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
After a ten hour flight, Paul has arrived in Las Vegas | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
for Michael's sentencing. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
He is meeting Lynne and the rest of Michael's family at the airport. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
Quite nervous about everything now, and I can feel myself getting | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
more and more nervous the longer I've been here, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
and I'm sure Lynne's going to be the same. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
The nerves will start when she gets here and then, I think, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
as the day progresses, thinking about tomorrow, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
it's going to be hard for both of us. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
And I think Lynne, Lynne is going to start struggling. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
What's your relationship like with Lynne? | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
'Lynne and I get on really well, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:47 | |
'we always have done.' | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
Hello, Jessie, hello! | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
'Even when we split up, we got on quite well.' | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
Hello! | 0:25:55 | 0:25:56 | |
'That's one of the things with the issues you get with Michael, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
'it does bring you closer together. You haven't got the choice.' | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
Hi, Paul. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:02 | |
-You all right? -How are you? | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
'You've got to be there for Michael, | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
'you've got to work together for Michael.' | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
Car's out this way, it's level one, the car park, at the back, so... | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
-Right. -Come on, then. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
There we go. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:17 | |
One big family, Jessica, eh? | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
LYNNE: | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
So how you been, then, all right? | 0:26:36 | 0:26:37 | |
Yeah, yeah, it's been hard. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
-You know, really, really tiring and stressful. -You sleep any better? | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
No, no. Nor eating better. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
At least we'll have some sort of closure for tomorrow, won't we? | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
That's it, it's been a long time coming, hasn't it? | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
You know, and I know it's been weighing hard on Michael, | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
just the waiting and not knowing. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
Do you remember where I said that we're going to go tomorrow? | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
Court! | 0:27:04 | 0:27:05 | |
That's right, yeah. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
-Who's going to be at the court, and why are we there? -Michael! | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
Because we have to find out how long he has to stay there again. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:16 | |
That's right, yeah. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
So there's going to be a special person... | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
-The judge. -The judge, that's right. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
And he's going to listen to lots of things about Michael | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
and decide how much longer Michael has to stay here, isn't he? | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
I'm a bit...a bit nervous of the judge, because I... | 0:27:28 | 0:27:33 | |
I've never seen him before. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:34 | |
No. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
-Do you think you can be on your best behaviour? -Yes! | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
And of course Michael would like to see | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
how well you can behave, as well, wouldn't he? | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
What would you like to say to Michael if you get the chance? | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
I love you. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:46 | |
Aww. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
-You all right? -Yeah. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:53 | |
-ON TELEPHONE: -Hi, son. How are you? | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
OK, did you? | 0:28:04 | 0:28:05 | |
And what did she have to say? | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
Well at least you get to have your say, anyway. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
Are you going to read it to me? | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
Yeah, that would be nice. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:16 | |
Yes, please. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:19 | |
Right, now, when we get in, it's bed for you, Jessica. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
-ON TELEPHONE: -Mm-hm. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
I don't think you should say, though, | 0:28:57 | 0:28:58 | |
that you deserve to be in prison for the rest of your life. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
Because that's not true. I mean... | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
I know, but you didn't mean to and you didn't intend to, did you? | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
And... | 0:29:11 | 0:29:12 | |
Just before midnight, nine hours before the rally was due to start, | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
Michael made his way to the Treasure Island casino | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
and took fourth place in the queue. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
Greg Donovan, a staunch Trump supporter, was next in line. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
I asked this young man, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
I said, "Would you mind holding my space while I go change?" | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
He said, "Oh, yeah." | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
I heard the British accent, I remember it. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
I was in my full red thing and black top hat. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
But when he saw it, he seemed kind of repulsed. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
I found that odd, because I thought he would like it, you know? | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
It just didn't seem like a regular Trump supporter. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:29 | |
It didn't seem like that. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
That was my feeling. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
I was in the fifth row, I got very close to Mr Trump. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:39 | |
I was so close to him. Look at that. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
There's something about the rallies. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
It's just euphoria. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, the next president of the United States, | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
Donald J Trump. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
CHEERING | 0:30:55 | 0:30:56 | |
As the auditorium began to fill up, | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
Cole Bartiromo, another Trump fan, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
took his place in the crowd. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
The crowds are just so high energy, feeding off his energy. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
So passionate, start chanting things over and over again. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
Thank you very much. Oh, I love you people. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
I love Las Vegas. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
I love this state. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
30 seconds into Trump's speech, with all eyes on the stage, | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
Michael approached a metropolitan patrol officer. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
..and borders, generally, that are strong and powerful. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
We are going to get rid of Common Core | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
and we are going to bring our education locally. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
When we get 37 states... | 0:31:44 | 0:31:45 | |
CLAMOURING | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
Uh... We love our police. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
Thank you. Thank you, officers. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
I started filming when I saw guards tackling somebody. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
BOOING | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
And they were just dragging him out like he's a rag doll. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
Thank you. Thank you, officers. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
I was like, "Whoa, like, what did he do?" | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
'There is this anger.' | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
BOOING | 0:32:33 | 0:32:34 | |
Protesters, boo! | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
'Because Michael Sandford' | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
could have altered the course of American history. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
Thank you. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:46 | |
He didn't look like murderer. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
He was a wolf in sheep's clothing. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
Maybe he got radicalised. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
Somebody can come in here and they have the opportunity | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
to kill our future president of the United States. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:03 | |
That's very nice, thank you. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:04 | |
I think you have to send a strong message, Donald Trump-style, | 0:33:04 | 0:33:09 | |
the judge has to give him the maximum. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
On his arrest, Michael told detectives that the greater good | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
would be to lose his own life rather than have Trump as president. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
He stated that it wasn't a cry for help, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
only the right thing to do. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
It's the morning of Michael's sentencing. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
The family are on their way to meet the legal team for a final briefing. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:05 | |
Good morning. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
How are you? It is good to see you. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
-Remind me his name again. -Timmy. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
-Timmy. And the other one is? -Tiggles. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
Tiggles. Yes. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
-How are you, Brenda? -I'm good. Hi, Lynne. Good to see you. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
Hi. Good to see you. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:26 | |
Good to see you. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
When you see Michael come into the courtroom, | 0:34:28 | 0:34:29 | |
I just don't want you to be surprised. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
He is going to be shackled, right? | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
So he is going to have handcuffs | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
and he is going to have some leg cuffs as well. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:36 | |
The leg cuffs are going to remain on him. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
He'll be wearing, you know, a detainee garb, jumpsuit of sorts. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
So, I just don't want you to be shocked by that. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
That's how you're going to see Michael. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
Judges do these differently, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:50 | |
but they will often hear from both sides. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
Sometimes they will ask questions. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
Then the judge will often ask the defendant to speak, Michael. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
So we would plan on having him talk to the judge. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
At the conclusion of this hearing, we will know - | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
the judge will actually announce what Michael's sentence is, | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
and he will give the reasoning as to why | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
he decided to impose a particular sentencing. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
So, we are hoping for the best, but, of course, | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
we don't know what's going to happen. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
He can ultimately impose the sentence | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
that he believes is fair and just. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
Unless the Republican judge is sympathetic | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
to Michael's mental health disorders, | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
he faces a lengthy jail term. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:34 | |
Michael Sandford is only now dressed in an orange jumpsuit. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
He is tethered at the ankles. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
The last big building. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:42 | |
His family say that he is someone | 0:35:42 | 0:35:43 | |
who has had a lifetime of mental health issues, | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
and therefore they are asking the court to show some leniency. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
That is now in the hands of the judge. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:51 | |
We are expecting that verdict sometime in the next hour. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
What's done is done. We can't change what happened. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
But our worries are that we won't get him back. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:06 | |
-Which way we are we going? -I think it is just around here. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
Have you been able to talk with him? | 0:36:09 | 0:36:10 | |
He needs to get psychiatric care. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
He needs to be back in the UK. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
I don't, for one minute, think Michael would be in the position | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
he is in now if he had got the intervention he needed soon enough. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
Where is all the hate coming from? | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
I asked for help so many times, but I didn't get it. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
No, I understand that. Do you think what you are doing is right? | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
It's not. If you want to kill somebody, it makes you wrong. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:53 | |
That makes you wrong. This is America, land of the free, right? | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
Everybody should be entitled to do what they want to say and do, right? | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
No, everyone is entitled. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:06 | |
This is America. That's the rule. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
Everyone is entitled to say what they want to say. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
Freedom of speech. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
OK, you know what? Then you need to change the Constitution. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
I am not here to debate. I am telling you that violence is wrong. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
There is life for him the other side of this, whenever that may be. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:30 | |
I know that, although he attempted to do a bad thing, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
he is not a bad person. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:34 | |
I know we have to get him back. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
Tell us about this sentencing, what did you think? | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
The judge recognised that the unique circumstances | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
justified a sentence below the usual sentencing guidelines. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
The important thing is that he wants to go home. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
He wants to go home as soon as he can and, you know, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
the light is at the end of the tunnel here, | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
so he is happy about that. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
The prosecution argued that Michael, by his own admission, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
had planned to carry out the attack for over a year... | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
..but the judge was sympathetic to his mental health | 0:38:33 | 0:38:37 | |
and handed down a shorter-than-expected sentence | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
of 12 months and a day. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
Was it good to see Michael? | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
He was so frightened in court. You know, he was shaking really badly. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:51 | |
He was choked when he spoke to the judge. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
He was breaking down, | 0:38:54 | 0:38:55 | |
and I just feel like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
All the uncertainty and worry of the last few months... | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
Now to know that it is such a relatively short time still to go | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
before we get him back is just, you know... | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
I'm just bubbling with joy inside. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
-MAN OFF-CAMERA: -I don't think I've ever seen you smile. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
I haven't had a lot to smile about for quite a long time. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
He apologised to the judge for what he had done, | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
he apologised to the judge for wasting people's time, | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
and the judge turned round and said, | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
"You've got nothing to be sorry for." | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
-VOICE BREAKING: -Erm... | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
He said, "You've got a condition. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
"If it had been a heart condition, he would take medication for it. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:49 | |
"Nobody would think anything about it." | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
Wave. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:53 | |
"It's nothing to be ashamed of." | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
The judge realised what everybody else has always said about him. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 |