The War on Loan Sharks


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This programme contains some strong language.

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This is about a manipulation of people who can't get money anywhere

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else, who can't go out to a bank or building society and

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get a legitimate loan.

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So, they are going to the loan shark,

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the unlicensed lender, and the lenders are taking advantage

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of these people. It becomes a never-ending debt,

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until something happens where that cycle gets broken.

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More and more people are turning to loan sharks...

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A crackdown's been promised on loan sharks...

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..with exorbitant rates of interest and threats of violence

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if they don't pay up.

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..lent the family £500 and then forced them to repay £88,000.

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..extortionate interest rates, threats and violence.

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Moneylending is big news and big business.

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The current public demand for quick cash has seen the dramatic rise

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of high street moneylenders,

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but away from the high street lie the unscrupulous loan sharks.

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Their loans are far from cheap and are costing people dearly.

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They're in your pubs, your betting offices.

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They wait at the school gates.

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Sometimes people are struggling that much that they have to turn to them.

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But who are they?

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'I'm going to make fucking sure you fucking pay me.'

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How do they operate?

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People have been kidnapped off the street and then tortured.

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What is the human cost?

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I've thought about jumping off of road bridges.

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The easiest thing to do is end your life.

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And what can be done to stop it?

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Can we come inside your house, please?

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Supported by the police on the front line of the battle to take down

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illegal moneylenders is a small, national, dedicated unit,

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called the England Illegal Money Lending Team.

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Jacqui Kennedy has been with Birmingham City Council all her working life.

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12 years ago, she was convinced that loan sharks were plaguing vulnerable

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communities in her home city, so she set out to build a team within

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Trading Standards with a simple mission.

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The objectives were clear, really -

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find out if there are any loan sharks out there,

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and if there are any, prosecute them.

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The team highlighted such a widespread problem that the project

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has since gone national.

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I think there's a misconception about what loan sharks are.

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They're not your payday lenders.

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They're not your high-interest lenders.

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They're people who are completely unregulated.

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They'll lend you money, but you don't have any paperwork.

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You don't necessarily...you won't even know how much you have

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to pay back and they can't get the

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money back from you through legal means and that's where it all goes

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wrong. That is where they just use intimidation, violence, threats,

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whatever it takes to get the money back.

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If you've got no help anywhere else,

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I think loan sharks do provide a service.

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At the end of the day, people around here borrow money because they're

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desperate for it. Some might borrow for their next meal.

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If you've got kids and you didn't get paid one day from the Jobcentre

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cos they didn't pay you or something,

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how else are you going to feed your kids?

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Not a normal person like us. We can't get a loan from the bank.

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Do you know what I mean?

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It's quite easy to find a loan shark anywhere,

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especially on estates like this.

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Go into the pubs and they'll be over to you,

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practically pushing the money into your hand.

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I think a lot of people don't tell people that they're involved in a

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loan shark because of the fear of what they could do to you and your family.

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The name "loan shark" has been bandied about willy-nilly and it may

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detract from the sort of people that are here displayed on the board

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behind me because THESE are loan sharks.

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They're not a community service.

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They're thugs and criminals.

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'You've got till 12 o'clock, otherwise, girls,

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'them fucking fellas are coming through your fucking door!'

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This is where we put evidence.

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These are some of the tools of the trade, if you like,

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that we've seen in previous cases.

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Parsons, Weaver, Weaver and Young was a gang that tended to prey on

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young women, single mums.

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They would send you a text saying, "If you don't pay, I'll end you."

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"If you don't pay, I'll snap your jaw."

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"One, two, Money's coming for you."

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That's a threat.

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You receive that sort of message on your mobile phone,

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that would frighten you to death.

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It's all about, you know, portraying to everybody in that community,

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"You just don't mess with me, and if you do mess with me,

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"there's going to be trouble."

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Mother of three Carol Highton paid the ultimate price

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when her son Brian got involved with a predatory loan shark,

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who had over 1,200 customers on his books.

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Today, what I want to do is actually share a story and it is a very sad

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story and it's a very real, true story that happened to my family.

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My son told us about a friend of his.

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Now, this friend was in debt.

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He'd borrowed £300 off a loan shark.

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In the space of a few weeks, it had gone right up to £3,400

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and there were threats being made.

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The threats were that they were going to rape

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this young man's sister,

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they were going to shoot his mum,

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they were going to go through his home.

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I did ask, "Did he go to the police?"

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And Brian, being Brian, said, "You don't go the bizzies, Mam.

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"It makes things much worse.

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"You don't know what you're talking about."

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Well, then, when I think back, I realised.

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Brian wasn't talking about no friend of his.

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He was talking about himself.

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On 3rd December,

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I never could have imagined that I was going to walk into my home

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and find what we did.

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I went up the stairs and just seen my son and he was in...

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I got to the top of the landing and there's my son,

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hanging from a belt from the attic in my bathroom.

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Just...

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Oh...

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Just... Oh, God.

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Never in a million years would my big, strong, handsome,

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caring boy have just taken his life willy-nilly like that.

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And what he must have been is scared for his family,

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cos the threats which were made were very real indeed.

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Paul Nicholson saw himself as the most powerful guy on the estate and

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a whole community couldn't breathe because of it.

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He's serving a sentence, for the protection of the public,

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an indefinite sentence.

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We estimated he made about £4.8 million.

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He was living this footballer's lifestyle.

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That was all on the backs of people who could least afford it.

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He had a number of collectors that used to collect the money each week,

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but he would go and enforce the debt.

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He went as far as to rape somebody and that was for a small debt.

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Brian took his life just six weeks after taking the loan from Nicholson.

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Afterwards, Carol became one of the team's most powerful advocates.

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She works tirelessly to spread the message in her local community,

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encouraging others to come forward and share their stories.

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I do what I do because I'm not afraid of these people.

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The reason I'm not afraid is they've done the worst thing already to me.

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There's nothing else that can touch me.

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I've had families sat in front of me pouring their hearts out,

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telling me what they've done to them, you know,

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beating them up or following them.

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A two-year-old child dangled over a balcony.

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You've got something like that happening to you,

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you're not going to put a foot wrong.

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You're going to do whatever they ask you to do.

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This problem is massive.

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It's everywhere.

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Today, the team is in Stoke, where, last year,

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10,000 people turned to food banks to feed their families.

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This level of desperation makes people easy prey for loan sharks.

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The investigators are working with the local police force

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to serve a warrant to raid a

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suspected loan shark's house,

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who targets taxi drivers.

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It's suspected that he goes around in a black cab Hackney carriage

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collecting from his various borrowers.

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Now, the informant's told us that he carries an iron bar down the side of

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the seat should it need to be used,

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but he's not indicated that it's been kind of shown to him

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or anything else.

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The team faces possible reprisals from the criminals they put away,

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so their identities need to remain secret.

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So, this is a crucial moment now and fundamental to the success of the

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operation in how we approach this.

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It's about establishing control and locking down those premises

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as quickly and efficiently and quietly as possible.

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We will ask key questions in that early stage of taking control,

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about where are your mobile phones, we want PIN numbers.

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If there's any significant amounts of cash located on the premises

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and the police and our embedded officers and the lead officer will

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be generally getting the house and immediate location under control,

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obviously without trying to attract too much attention from other people.

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Here we go.

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Morning. Hiya, is it Abdul?

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-Er, no.

-No? Can I come inside? I'm from the police, mate.

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I'm from the National Illegal Money Lending Team.

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-OK?

-Yes.

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Basically, we've had an allegation that you've been lending money out

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and collecting it back with interest,

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so we've got a warrant to search the premises today.

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OK?

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So, what's going to happen is I'm arresting you on suspicion of

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illegal moneylending and money laundering.

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You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence if you do

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not mention, when questioned, something which you later rely on in court.

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Anything you do say may be given in evidence. Do you understand that?

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The suspect is in no doubt or misunderstanding about the fact

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he is under arrest.

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His liberty's been taken away and he'll be detained in custody to go

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through the interview process later on today and I am pretty confident

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that we'll release him on bail pending further inquiries,

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which is the normal procedure we would follow.

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This is the entry video for Operation Unimac.

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What we now do is we ensure that we video the property.

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That is for a number of reasons.

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One is about the security of my staff in terms of

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any future allegations of damage or theft or anything like that,

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which has happened in the past,

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but also, importantly, to secure a visual image for the court,

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should we end up prosecuting this person and we would do what we call

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a "video of significant find" if that's the case -

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cash under floorboards, tucked away in cupboards,

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phones or SIM cards that may be hidden.

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Part of that process is we number all of the rooms and locations in the premises.

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Room ten.

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In a jacket

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inside pocket...

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..there's an envelope...

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..and there is...

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..cash inside.

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We are finding significant amounts of cash secreted in jacket pockets

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and so forth in one of the bedrooms,

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predominantly in large bundles of £50 notes and £20 notes,

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which is quite significant to us, as it's an early, strong indication

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that it's the profit from some other activity -

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we suspect providing unlicensed loans.

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Inside the pockets and we have got two wads of cash.

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We never count it at the premises.

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It's always double-bagged and sealed

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and then is counted under video conditions.

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About 7,000.

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One of the most important things is to secure the mobile phones.

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People will do things like eating their SIM cards

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or just trying to throw them away.

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Down there is a bank bag with £20 notes and other notes inside.

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Bearing in mind, this man,

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there's evidence in this house that he hasn't paid any of his standard

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bills that we're all expected to pay and he's receiving additional

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benefits, you wouldn't expect to find multi-thousand pounds

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tucked away in clothing in the bedroom or stuffed down

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the side of the settee.

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It's just not normal.

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More cash there, mate.

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Right, we've got wage slips there.

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He's earning £97.28 a week.

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I'll bet!

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And he's got about ten grand in his house.

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That's fantastic savings, isn't it?

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Wish I was that good with money.

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How many other people around here have got ten grand stuffed away

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in their bedrooms and what have you?

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Not many.

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I would like to think that the public think we are providing

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a positive and worthwhile service.

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One thing that does bug people are other people who make good,

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ready cash and don't pay their bills like everybody else has to do.

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The public will say, "Right, well, that's a good service.

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"If they're making people face up to the reality like I'm having to do,

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"then that's a good thing because we're all in it together

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"at the moment, aren't we, as a nation."

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The team has brought so many violent criminals to justice that they need

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to operate from a hidden location in Birmingham.

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Their work even remains a secret to the other tenants

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who share their building.

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Loan shark team, Jenny Cook speaking. How may I help you?

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Morning, everybody.

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Morning, boss. How are you?

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The day begins...

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Tony has led the team since it started.

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His daily challenge is to manage the department's limited resources at a

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time when the scale of the problem is increasing.

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I've got 60 officers to cover the whole of England.

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That includes my support team, you know, my administration,

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my investigators and my liaise team and it's not a huge amount.

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So, what are the nature of the threats, then?

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Have we got evidence to say the threats aren't just verbal,

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there is actual substance behind them?

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The officers are away from their homes sometimes three,

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four days a week investigating loan shark operations and they do it

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in very difficult circumstances sometimes.

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Hello, Trading Standards.

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Our mission is to identify loan sharks and to bring them to justice.

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It's to support people who are at their most vulnerable.

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Ta-ta, mate.

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Normally, people will use a loan shark as a last resort

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because, erm, something's happened.

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Whatever it may be, you know, they may have lost their job.

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They just think, "If I can see my way through for the next few days,

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"couple of weeks, then, effectively, I can get out of this trouble."

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The debts get worse because the loan shark just applies

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more and more pressure.

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Some of the interest rates, the APRs, that we can quote,

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go into the hundreds of thousands of percent.

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You know, we've had instances where you go through the loan books and

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you just see the bill being doubled.

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They apply that many charges that, effectively, you can never pay it back.

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I'm going to play you a clip now.

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What we're looking at here is how a loan shark

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can affect somebody's life.

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And that just continues and continues and continues.

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It must be dreadful to wake up every day thinking,

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"I haven't got enough money to pay the loan shark,"

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and to get calls like that just to add to that feeling of dread.

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Can you just explain a little bit about the situation?

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How did your mum get to meet this person?

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Basically, we've got an intel unit, which is at the far end of the room,

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and they will build on any intelligence that comes in,

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to the point where we can carry out a warrant.

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Do you know roughly, over time, the total that she's paid back up to now?

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There are two teams out executing warrants, seizing evidence,

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effecting arrests.

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We've done three this week, so that tells you how successful we can be

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at it - and that can be from information that was quite scant.

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From our point of view, knowledge is power.

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Information comes from the hotline or via Twitter or Facebook.

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The hotline is open 24/7 and we've been known to have phone calls

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in the middle of the night, sort of two, three o'clock in the morning,

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cos that's when someone can be at their lowest ebb.

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Some people have borrowed money, obviously, because they've got

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bills to pay and they're at the end of their tether financially,

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but I've heard stories of other people who've borrowed money

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to buy a dog, say.

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So, everybody's story's different, but, no matter how it starts,

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it always ends the same.

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This is the cash count for Operation Unimac.

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This is four lots of cash that was seized this morning.

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So, we'll do a bullet-point debrief now of the morning warrant, please.

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You had a conversation with an individual who's willing to assist

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and they've given a snippet of information.

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Yeah. Basically, they're saying that he's not the only lender.

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There are other people in the syndicate lending money out and he

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says that our suspect lends money out at casinos,

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so a lot of taxi drivers go there, they gamble.

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When they lose money, he's there waiting with ready cash.

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The way it works is they borrow, say, £100 and they pay double back.

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Every time, he charges double on every amount that he lends out.

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Has it been a success? Yes, I think so.

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Now we go into the post-arrest stage of enquiries to build up a case.

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If there is a case to answer and if we then decide to charge this

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individual, we then look to prepare the case for prosecution at court.

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Grand total of £13,800.

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At the moment, it's all looking good and I think we're on course

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for a prosecution.

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Cath is travelling to Birkenhead in the Wirral.

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She manages the team that deals directly with the victims.

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The district recently had an unemployment rate

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double the national average.

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Cath spends up to four days a week travelling to some of the most

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deprived areas in the country to meet victims.

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We're primarily victim and witness support -

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that's the bread-and-butter bit of our role -

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and then also we try and prevent people going to loan sharks.

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That's our aim in life, if you like.

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So, it's about trying to get information to communities through

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the press, do whatever else we can do to make sure they know we exist

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and that support is available.

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She's here to help a housing association who've noticed

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a suspicious spike in the level of rent arrears amongst their tenants.

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If you've got a loan shark operating on one of your estates and

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you're a housing association,

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I pretty much guarantee your rent arrears will go through the roof,

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cos people will pay the loan shark before paying the rent

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because of the fear factor.

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So, they want to join in the fight,

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they want to help us identify them and get them removed from the areas

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that they work in.

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What we want to do is give the front-line staff the tools and

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the knowledge to be able to talk to people about loan sharks.

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The question we always get asked, "How many loan sharks are there?"

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I bet I get asked that today and the honest answer is we don't know

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because they're not registered.

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It's like asking how many drug dealers are there.

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If I could do any job, I'd be on the stage, so this is as close as I get.

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So, basically we're going to look at what is a loan shark,

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who we are and what we can do about it, basically.

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There's quite a lot of media, you're probably aware at the moment,

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about legal loan sharks, in inverted commas.

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It's a phrase that drives me mad.

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It's a bit like saying "legal burglar".

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There are high-cost lenders, but they're not legal loan sharks.

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That really drives me mad, cos I think it blurs the line

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for the public about what we're talking about a lot of the time.

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In this country, there is no cap on the interest rate you want to charge

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as a business. If you want to charge 1,000,000% interest,

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you are able to do so, as long as your paperwork is correct and

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you advertise it right.

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Last year, about 50% of our intelligence came from victims

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themselves or from family and friends who were worried about them,

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and about 50% came from people like you guys, from partner agencies

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who were working with someone and had concerns.

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The highest sentence you can get for illegal lending at the moment is

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two years and/or a £5,000 fine.

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Cos what we want to do is show the court this isn't a technical offence.

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This isn't just someone lending money without a bit of paper.

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This is someone who's having a massive impact on that community

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and needs to be stopped.

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So, if, for example, a loan shark is demanding money with menaces,

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which is what they do day in, day out,

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we can charge them with blackmail.

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Five-year sentence for blackmail.

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Much more like it.

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We've charged with counterfeit goods, we've charged with assault,

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kidnap, erm, rape - anything to show the extent of the criminality.

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I manage people who live and work all over England,

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so it can be the case sometimes that I'm in Newcastle one day

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and Plymouth the next day.

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I don't have a typical week.

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I think I've done this job five and a half years now,

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and I'm not bored and that's really unusual for me.

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I think the fact that it keeps evolving and keeps changing and

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you never know what's going to happen next is part of the reason

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that I'm still passionate about it and still interested in it.

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So, we're on our way to Hull.

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We're going to go past the beautiful Humber Bridge shortly and we're

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going to meet a couple of people who borrowed from a loan shark

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in the past who are willing to speak to you guys on camera.

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I love this bridge. I think it's beautiful.

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Pretending I'm in San Francisco!

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Hull may have won the 2017 bid as the City of Culture,

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but its residents have the least amount of disposable income in the UK.

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Two victims became involved with the notorious loan shark Darren Wilson,

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who operated a criminal empire across the city.

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They've both asked not to be identified.

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INTERVIEWER: So, how did you get involved with Darren Wilson?

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Well, we'd been trying bank loans and stuff like that and

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nobody would help out, so we heard from word of mouth about this person

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who was lending money out so we just went with them.

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You take out these normal loans and the interest

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they're charging and what he was charging, he was just, like,

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simpler to get a loan from, really.

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He never brought any paperwork with him.

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You always used to pay him cash in hand.

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It'd start off small loans, about £75.

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We'd been paying constantly for quite a few years.

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The payments got higher and you were paying more back and if you didn't

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pay him on time, he used to bring his heavies in with him,

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so you just had no choice but to pay him.

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When I met Darren, I thought he was just a normal, standard guy like us.

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But when you miss a payment, that's it, he changes. And he said,

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"By the end of the day, if you don't pay me, I'll knock your teeth out."

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With Darren, it's a case of he's not bothered who you are,

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as long as he's getting paid.

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You couldn't sleep at night.

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Any bang, you never know if it's him at the door.

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You're just panicking all the time.

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I tried suicide.

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That was probably the only way, I think, that was a way out for me.

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Wilson was described by the judge as somebody who was acting like a

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gangster. He'd got nearly 500 loans out into the community.

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Over £200,000 he'd pushed out and you see, you know, things we found

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in his house, like a machete and a knuckleduster.

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12 and a half years he's been sent to prison for -

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conspiracy to commit murder, arson, illegal moneylending.

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I think until you've walked a mile in someone's shoes,

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you should never judge them. I think it's really difficult for people and

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the problem is that the loan shark is such a plausible,

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friendly option at the time that why wouldn't you take it?

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If someone said to me tonight, with payday still a couple of weeks away

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just after Christmas, "Do you want a couple of hundred quid?

0:24:250:24:28

"Pay me back whenever," I'm not 100% sure, if I didn't do this job,

0:24:280:24:30

that I'd turn them down.

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We averaged it out that most people probably have a loan of about £350.

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Some people might say, "Well, they had the loan. What do they expect?"

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But we all make rash decisions at times and we all make mistakes,

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but why should you have to pay for that for the rest of your life

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for one mistake?

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The England Illegal Money Lending Team has its own legal department.

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who pursue loan sharks through the courts, headed up by Simon.

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With 26 cases last year, he has a heavy and growing caseload.

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We were the first team to properly address the problem of illegal moneylending -

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and illegal moneylending comes in many different forms.

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We have the classic loan sharks, who are violent towards their borrowers.

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Then there are the ones who simply threaten and then there are

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the others, who simply don't have violence in their nature.

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We have more cases coming in from more diverse areas and so we do,

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literally, travel the whole country.

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One worries about the community as a whole, wherever it be, because

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it seems to me that there is a whole swathe of society out there

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that isn't properly addressed in terms of the financial sector that,

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no matter how much you dress it up,

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they still need £50 at the end of August to go to a cheap shop

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to buy school uniforms for their three kids.

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When loan sharks are prosecuted and convicted,

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I would imagine that some of the victims wring their hands with glee

0:26:070:26:12

at the fact that they don't have to pay the money back.

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People who have given statements, one obviously worries for them.

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One worries for people who have to give evidence.

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I was scared of reporting him.

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I didn't want to report him, just in case he found out that I did it.

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INTERVIEWER: What do you think of the person that did report him?

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Well, I'd just like to thank them, really,

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cos it's just got us out of a great big hole.

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There's many issues with victims coming forward.

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There's a massive fear of reprisals from the loan shark.

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There's a fear of reprisals from the community, in terms of being

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labelled a grass.

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There's a fear of the unknown, in a way, of putting your head above the

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parapet, and there's also a lack of knowledge.

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If people don't know this is a criminal offence and don't know

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there is a team out there who can support them,

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then they're not going to report it.

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I actually went to the police when I was dealing with it.

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I put in a statement to the police about it.

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Got home, rang the police up and withdrew my statement,

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because I was so scared of what would happen.

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Cath is supporting a victim who's been brave enough to come forward

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and give evidence against a loan shark who trapped him in a

0:27:140:27:17

cycle of debt for three years.

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I would class myself as a very respectable person.

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I've never been in trouble or anything like that.

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I've worked all my life and as soon as you hit a bad spell,

0:27:240:27:28

these people are there to prey on you.

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It all started about three years ago.

0:27:310:27:33

My wife became poorly,

0:27:340:27:36

I had to give up work to look after her,

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and we found ourselves with no money.

0:27:380:27:41

We tried the banks, we tried other places and no-one would touch me,

0:27:410:27:46

so, the only option you're left with is to go through to the illegal money thing.

0:27:460:27:50

The first time I met him,

0:27:510:27:53

he came across as somebody that wanted to be a friend,

0:27:530:27:56

not just someone that's helping you.

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The amounts I was borrowing got higher.

0:27:570:27:59

It got up to, like, £100, maybe £200 a week.

0:27:590:28:02

Then it got nasty, because we weren't paying back the exact amount

0:28:020:28:06

that we wanted from them, there was more interest added on.

0:28:060:28:09

Threats started to be issued, that your windows would get put through.

0:28:090:28:14

At times, there was spit coming out of his mouth when he was talking

0:28:140:28:17

to you and it just affected me so much.

0:28:170:28:20

I sat down in my chair one morning with my phone in one hand,

0:28:210:28:25

which had the details to ring the Illegal Money Lending Team,

0:28:250:28:28

and a pile of pills on the other side and it was a toss-up which to do.

0:28:280:28:32

There is always another option somewhere.

0:28:320:28:34

If you can do without it,

0:28:340:28:35

stay away from them, cos they're nothing but poison.

0:28:350:28:38

An undercover officer from the team is in Stockport,

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an area suffering from rising crime rates.

0:28:530:28:55

We can see that it's a fairly close-knit estate.

0:28:580:29:01

Lots of people know each other, so we have to be very sensitive to

0:29:010:29:05

how we're going to carry out the investigation.

0:29:050:29:07

So, we want to get a full feel for where we're operating

0:29:070:29:11

and the potential risks that are involved.

0:29:110:29:14

He's scouting a council estate after receiving intelligence

0:29:150:29:18

about a family-run gang suspected of illegal moneylending.

0:29:180:29:22

It is a lockdown-type estate,

0:29:240:29:26

managed, primarily, by one family.

0:29:260:29:29

They have a total and utter grip,

0:29:290:29:32

a grip managed by fear

0:29:320:29:35

and, where necessary, actual physical retribution.

0:29:350:29:39

One of the key factors is the element of surprise when you're

0:29:410:29:44

conducting this sort of investigation,

0:29:440:29:47

not only in terms of combating them as people because they've used

0:29:470:29:51

firearms or drugs or knives, for example, before,

0:29:510:29:54

but also in terms of making sure we get the best chance

0:29:540:29:58

of securing the key evidence that we want.

0:29:580:30:00

We have 46 people, all identified,

0:30:010:30:04

all of whom we can demonstrate have had loans

0:30:040:30:07

and not one of them is prepared to make a witness statement.

0:30:070:30:11

The people of this estate live in fear of repercussion.

0:30:110:30:15

We have seen significant cases of violence, of injury,

0:30:160:30:20

of broken bones, of assault and of damage to property and injuries

0:30:200:30:26

to pets as well, which is something which seems to be on the increase.

0:30:260:30:29

Doing things like throwing liquid over the person in their premises

0:30:290:30:34

and claiming it's petrol and the next time,

0:30:340:30:37

there'll be a match with it.

0:30:370:30:38

The impact on that individual and the family is huge

0:30:380:30:42

and can be really long-lasting.

0:30:420:30:45

Whilst the bulk of it is just the perception by the individual victim,

0:30:450:30:50

as I say, make no mistake about it,

0:30:500:30:52

there are some people who do and will carry through their threats.

0:30:520:30:56

The team now has enough evidence to launch a dawn raid

0:31:030:31:06

at two addresses on the estate.

0:31:060:31:08

It's four o'clock in the morning.

0:31:100:31:12

We're in convoy at the moment.

0:31:120:31:13

We're going to Cheadle Police Station.

0:31:130:31:16

There's been massive preparation in respect of this and the interesting

0:31:160:31:20

thing is that we don't know what we're going to find this morning.

0:31:200:31:23

It's always the unknown, this is.

0:31:230:31:24

We'll be executing a number of warrants in the Greater Manchester

0:31:270:31:33

area as part of Operation Oche.

0:31:330:31:35

There are going to be significant numbers of police officers out on

0:31:350:31:39

this particular job and it will be a rapid entry.

0:31:390:31:44

Each and every one of you must make sure that you wear

0:31:440:31:47

your protective body armour.

0:31:470:31:49

The intelligence gathered suggests there may be weapons

0:31:510:31:53

at the properties, so 40 armed police officers have been deployed

0:31:530:31:57

to assist them in executing the warrant.

0:31:570:32:00

You just want to make sure that everything runs smoothly,

0:32:010:32:04

that people are safe and that there are no incidents.

0:32:040:32:07

That's what goes through your mind.

0:32:070:32:08

We have to consider not only the safety of the occupants,

0:32:080:32:11

but we also have to consider the safety of the officers.

0:32:110:32:14

It's just round the corner now.

0:32:170:32:18

A shout will go across the radio system and it has to all happen

0:32:250:32:28

at the same time, otherwise there's potential for word to get out and

0:32:280:32:32

people to start destroying evidence.

0:32:320:32:34

You always get butterflies.

0:32:360:32:37

You don't know what you're going to find behind the door.

0:32:370:32:40

DOG BARKS

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Police! Stay where you are!

0:32:520:32:53

Normally, by the time that we start conducting the search,

0:33:010:33:05

everything is calm and safe.

0:33:050:33:08

But, nevertheless, you do have concerns that once you go in,

0:33:080:33:11

at that moment you don't know what you're going to expect,

0:33:110:33:14

or how people are going to react.

0:33:140:33:16

We all have access to a number of weapons.

0:33:160:33:17

We've all got kitchens, we've all got knives.

0:33:170:33:19

Some people may have a history of firearms,

0:33:190:33:22

some people may have a history of violence.

0:33:220:33:24

Well, this morning's been a successful morning.

0:33:310:33:33

We've executed the warrant and made a number of arrests and

0:33:330:33:37

it'll be further enquiries now, throughout the day.

0:33:370:33:40

The officers are going through, systematically, each room.

0:33:440:33:47

They'll be looking at documents, bits of paper,

0:33:470:33:50

whatever it may be that they feel may be potential evidence.

0:33:500:33:53

Paperwork, mobile phones, laptops are what we're looking for,

0:33:530:33:57

particularly when it comes to any sort of written paperwork

0:33:570:34:00

that looks like a loan book.

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We won't have a true picture of what's gone on until

0:34:030:34:06

we get all of the documents back to the police station to sift through

0:34:060:34:10

and sort out what potential evidence there is.

0:34:100:34:13

It's not just paperwork that can incriminate.

0:34:150:34:17

Mobile phones are an essential part of evidence gathering

0:34:170:34:20

that can help secure a conviction.

0:34:200:34:22

The forensic investigator is able to examine them

0:34:220:34:25

and unlock their secrets.

0:34:250:34:27

One of the important aspects of any search is to recover the phones

0:34:270:34:30

that belong to the suspect.

0:34:300:34:32

You may uncover text messages between suspect and victims,

0:34:320:34:36

where they're demanding payment for loans given out,

0:34:360:34:39

occasionally making threats.

0:34:390:34:41

You may uncover other criminality.

0:34:410:34:43

This reader will examine the SIM card.

0:34:450:34:49

It will provide data relevant to that handset

0:34:490:34:52

and I would run a search.

0:34:520:34:53

Tap in something like "loan" to start with

0:34:530:34:56

and look to see how many times the word "loan" comes up.

0:34:560:35:00

That then gives me a very quick indication of whether

0:35:000:35:03

this is a phone of a loan shark or not.

0:35:030:35:07

The importance is achieving best evidence for us, really,

0:35:070:35:09

and is to be able to take into an interview with a suspect

0:35:090:35:13

details of any conversations they may well have had with victims,

0:35:130:35:16

via text messages, via chat or e-mail,

0:35:160:35:19

which may well show criminality.

0:35:190:35:21

Some loan sharks never impose any fear or intimidation.

0:35:330:35:38

It's all about the relationship, it's all about the rapport.

0:35:380:35:41

You'll pay them because obviously you feel that they're

0:35:410:35:44

your best friend and they use that.

0:35:440:35:47

"Oh, come on, I lent you the money when you had bad times."

0:35:470:35:50

They never talk about how they're ripping you off.

0:35:500:35:53

Now, if they have to be nice to you to get you to pay those extortionate

0:35:530:35:57

amounts, then that's what they'll do.

0:35:570:35:59

If they have to be nasty to you, that's what they'll do.

0:35:590:36:02

I put no divide between either/or.

0:36:040:36:06

Many illegal money lenders feel they are simply doing someone a favour.

0:36:100:36:14

If one is doing it occasionally,

0:36:140:36:16

then it isn't an offence.

0:36:160:36:18

If I lend you £10 on a Friday and you give me £10 back on Saturday,

0:36:180:36:23

that's not an offence, obviously.

0:36:230:36:24

But it snowballs over and above friendship,

0:36:240:36:27

over and above occasional to commercial.

0:36:270:36:30

If I'm lending you £100 and you're giving me back £150,

0:36:300:36:35

then that, quite simply, is commercial, in my view.

0:36:350:36:38

If it quacks and got feathers and swims,

0:36:380:36:41

it's probably a duck, right?

0:36:410:36:44

If you're lending money to people at work and getting back more than

0:36:440:36:48

you've lent out, then you're probably a business.

0:36:480:36:51

What is surprising about a lot of the illegal moneylenders is that

0:36:520:36:58

they know how much money they're making.

0:36:580:36:59

So, why on earth don't they simply go and get a licence

0:37:010:37:03

and legitimise themselves?

0:37:030:37:05

It is as if they want to be under the radar of the authorities,

0:37:050:37:10

for whatever reason.

0:37:100:37:12

And that is sometimes surprising,

0:37:120:37:14

bearing in mind the sheer scale of the money

0:37:140:37:17

that some of these people earn.

0:37:170:37:19

Illegal moneylending doesn't just happen in the poorest areas.

0:37:230:37:27

Calls to the team's hotline have uncovered information about more

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loan sharking that has spread to the more affluent suburbs.

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An undercover lead investigator and her team are armed with a warrant

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for a raid on an unassuming terraced house.

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So, we knew the background of all the people at those premises before

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we went in, but as we're approaching the premises,

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we're greeted by the loan shark's husband coming out

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to put his bins out, in his dressing gown and his flip-flops.

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Good morning, sir.

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-Yes?

-Good morning, sir, my name's John, I'm a police officer of the

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National Illegal Money Lending Team.

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-Hi!

-Can we go inside your property, please...

-Er...

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..instead of discussing on the drive of your property?

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Sorry, on the...?

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Can we come inside your house, please?

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Yeah, sure. Why?

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We've got a warrant to search your address.

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Shall we go inside, sir, instead of doing this on the front drive, yeah?

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Yeah.

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Who else is in the property this morning?

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-Pardon?

-Who else is inside your house this morning?

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Erm, my wife and my son.

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Can you ask your wife and your son to come downstairs, please?

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DOG BARKS

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Yeah, if you come downstairs, sir.

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I can explain all when your wife comes down.

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OK.

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Thank you. Good morning.

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Hello.

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Do you want to come downstairs, love?

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DOG CONTINUES TO BARK

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Is there any chance you can put the dog in another room as well,

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so I can speak clearly without the dog barking over the top of me?

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-Jack, come here.

-Thank you.

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Jack! Jack!

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Now, we've got a warrant to search your address this morning

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under the Consumer Credit Act.

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We work for an agency that investigates illegal moneylenders, loan sharks.

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So, before we do that, can I ask you, have you got any documentation,

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any property that's going to relate to, like, the lending of money,

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the illegal lending of money?

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-No.

-No, OK.

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We get families working together, particularly husband-and-wife teams,

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and what we find is that one of them starts the business off and

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the other one gets drawn into helping out in some way, collecting,

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going and knocking on doors, asking for money.

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All right. Have you got your mobile phone on you?

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-SON:

-I don't, all my stuff's upstairs.

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OK, we've got yours?

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A lot of people under pressure go very quiet and stay very calm,

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and they think, "Well, I don't know how I'm going to get out of this,"

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and people are thinking of ways to get out of something.

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You know, "What am I going to say? How am I going to say it?

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"Who can I blame? It's not me, it's going to be somebody else."

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So, thinking about the story they're going to deliver

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at the end of the day when they're interviewed about it.

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And the easiest thing to do is confess,

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because it's good for the soul.

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We've seen loan sharks that are the typical big, burly criminals

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that bully their way round,

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to people that pretend to be your best friend.

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They try and justify what they've been doing, that they're some sort of community service

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and they're not a community service.

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What they are is people who are greedy and they're profiting

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through emotional blackmail.

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We're not there on a whim and a prayer.

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We're there for a reason and we've satisfied ourselves

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quite properly before we come into your house

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that you are running a business and we're here to unravel your business.

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And we are very good at it.

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So, is there a PIN number to get into the computer or a SIM card

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or anything like that?

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When we interviewed them, the husband actually said,

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"We'd thought about getting a consumer credit licence, but decided we weren't going to."

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During the process of the search, we found a safe in their bedroom.

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We can't open the safe or, for whatever reason,

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they hadn't got the key.

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And we had to get the person out to open the safe who would open

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the safe on the premises and we managed to open the safe and I think

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there was about £5,000 in there, along with some items of jewellery,

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which she said were not all of her items of jewellery, so now we're in

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the process of trying to track down the owners of that jewellery and

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see if we can get that back to their rightful owners.

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People think they're being so clever by trying to hide cash in certain

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areas, but we always find the cash.

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It's there to be found.

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You uncover everything that goes with human beings, actually.

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We've uncovered drug factories in lofts.

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We uncover firearms.

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We uncover pornography.

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We uncover people trafficking.

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You know, whatever humans are into.

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You know, all sorts of things.

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She had about 30 to 40 customers,

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a substantial business which had grown over a number of years

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and her husband clearly had a lot of knowledge about it.

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While the team takes the suspects to the police station for questioning,

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Tony demonstrates the spoils of another warrant that took place

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the night before.

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You can see how busy we are because, obviously, we've come straight from

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that job to this job today.

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This money now is all sealed up and it's going into

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a safe store in the next few minutes.

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We believe it's over £50,000.

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This was just lying around his house.

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There's a lack of education amongst loan sharks,

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but there's certainly no lack of business acumen.

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They know how to get money out of people,

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they understand how the psychology of human beings work.

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They understand about bringing pressure to bear in family groups.

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You couldn't say there is one profile that would fit a loan shark,

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other than they're all in business.

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With a small team, they can't fight this war alone.

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They have to rely heavily on outside agencies,

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like the Citizens Advice Bureau, who fight their own daily battles on the

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front line of indebted Britain.

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We can go to CABs all over the country.

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It's one of our key relationships, I'd say.

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Housing, police, credit unions and debt advice are our, kind of,

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four key areas that we drop in and maintain relationships, basically.

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People do open up to CAB workers, so they're a really key

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source of intelligence.

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-TONY:

-With the small team that we've got,

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we can't be expected to be everywhere.

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Without our partner agencies, we would fail, but they've seen

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the real benefits to the community when we take out a loan shark and,

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as a result of that, everybody becomes passionate about it.

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There is a victim of a loan shark

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and there was some support needed there, so I just added...

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I maybe see someone who I suspect a loan shark is dealing with

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maybe once a month.

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No-one says, "I've borrowed money from a loan shark."

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It's always a friend or a relative,

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and as we've become more aware of the activities of these people

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in our town, we do delve a little bit deeper.

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Sometimes people are struggling that much that they have to turn to them,

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and this is why we try to raise awareness of what is out there -

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to support them.

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-CATH:

-Excuse me, have you got a second? I'm not selling anything.

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Too cold, too cold.

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In Stoke, 34% of people live in poverty.

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With people so strapped for cash,

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they become an easy target for loan sharks.

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Cath's out raising awareness,

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gathering any leads she can about illegal moneylenders in the area.

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Nice one. Thank you very much, gents, cheers.

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We must be mad, mustn't we?

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This is dedication, this is!

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So, we've moved from outside the shopping centre to inside

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the bus station, so it's at least dry and we're all thawing out

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a little bit now and people are a bit more willing to talk to us,

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cos they're standing there waiting for a bus anyway and they're not freezing to death.

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You've got 91 years' experience to share with us!

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We've spoken to people today who know what loan sharks is

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and I firmly believe that wouldn't have happened five years ago.

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I would never, ever have a loan off a loan shark.

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Those people want stamping out.

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They all should be shot.

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This is my view on it.

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Someone said to me today, "They break your legs,"

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and someone else said, "I'd never get in with them cos they come

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"into your house and they take your stuff," and that's absolutely true.

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So, I think it's brilliant, from our point of view, that people are

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picking up the messages and saying, "No, no, I'd never use them."

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It's important, what you're doing. I appreciate what you're doing.

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Today, we've had someone come up to one of my colleagues and say that

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he knows a loan shark.

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He's given us the name, he's given us the nickname and also the estate

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where he says the guy's working.

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So, we can go away and check the name and the nickname against

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our systems, we can check it against police systems and then,

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even if, at worst, we just target that estate,

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at least we know where we're going.

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For a small team, the results are impressive,

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but the battle against loan sharks is far from won.

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They're also having to deal with a relocation,

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funding cuts and reduced resources.

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I've got a few things that I want to talk about.

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First of all, the redundancies.

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Clearly, we've got five staff that are leaving the organisation.

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-Have we pencilled in the exit interviews?

-Yes, yes.

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How's that gone down?

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Erm, they were disappointed, but, obviously, they recognise that

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there's only so much that we can do and we need to focus

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on certain priorities.

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We'll need to monitor to make sure that we don't overstretch staff

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that may see it as having to pick up extra work.

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If you lose any staff, or any resource,

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clearly that has an impact.

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Of course, I'm disappointed, because it has an impact on the outcomes

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that you can produce, so it may take us slightly longer to get jobs done,

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but, ultimately, I'm a realist and we're in times, at the moment,

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where austerity bites,

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but we will ensure that we look at everything and try and

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take the most appropriate, proportionate action.

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Police. Can you open the door, please?

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The investigators carry on their fight to disrupt loan shark activity,

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even if it's only possible to take them out one by one.

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Please, why not...?

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Why you are doing camera?

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Huh? No, you come this way. This way.

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We should not go by camera.

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Right, so we're lost now, but I know it's around here somewhere.

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Team solicitor Simon continues to pursue his cases all over England,

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trying to maintain his 100% conviction rate

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against the inevitable frustrations of the court system.

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Unfortunately, the interpreter has been booked for tomorrow and,

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as neither of us can attend tomorrow,

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it's all been put off to next week, I'm afraid.

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I still feel angry now and he's been locked up four years...

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And Carol Highton, who helped to jail the loan shark

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who hounded her son, has received an MBE for her public services.

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It worries me because, today, it's getting so much worse,

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especially with all the government changes coming in and everything.

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There's going to be so many people now who are going to be stressed

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to the max and going to get in so much debt because of all

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these changes and they are going to go down the path of going

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to these illegal lenders, because it's going to be the only way

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that they're going to be able to survive.

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# What is wrong at the end of the day

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# What is really wrong, no-one dares to say

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# You know you're wrong

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# When there's only one right... #

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