Episode 4 Caught Red Handed


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Thieves will steal our cars, our valuables,

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just about anything they can get their hands on.

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To cut down on crime and antisocial behaviour,

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the police and other agencies are using new tactics and technology

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where the bad guys are getting caught in the act.

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-CCTV is vital.

-You can see they are definitely the people there.

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The camera doesn't lie.

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Local councils, shops and businesses are laying some traps of their own.

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There's a eureka moment when you get that evidence.

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And the general public, too,

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can help unsuspecting crooks get their comeuppance.

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-People won't stand by.

-I couldn't sit back and do nothing.

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Yes! We've got her.

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So, anyone who's up to no good had better think twice.

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They might just get caught red-handed.

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Today, a gang of robbers

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armed with an arsenal of different weapons

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strike terror into the staff of a city's shops.

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I was aware that someone had just walked up to me

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with a knife in their hand and a balaclava.

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They're doing everything they can to basically put fear into people.

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They take away thousands of pounds

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and leave behind terrified shop staff.

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Also today,

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Peter comes face-to-face with a shadowy stranger

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outside his neighbour's house.

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He looked at me and I said, "Are you burgling that house?"

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I can't believe I said that.

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But the burglar couldn't have foreseen what happens next.

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And a camera is set up to keep a watch on the cat

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while the owner's away,

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but it catches a cat burglar instead.

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Bristol.

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And an armed gang is on the loose.

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They've been raiding convenience stores, terrorising staff.

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It was scary.

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You know, you don't really know what they're going to do.

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The manager had a knife in his face, he was being told,

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"I'm going to stab you."

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They've also broken into Kirsty's home.

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Someone's armed. You're at your most vulnerable.

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That's a really scary thing.

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The police launch a major investigation,

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but catching these criminals will be difficult.

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We didn't have any fingerprints and we didn't have any DNA, either.

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So, we didn't have a lot to work with.

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Like any other city, Bristol has its fair share of crime.

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Though serious offences, such as armed robbery, are rare.

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But recently, a gang carried out a series of raids

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over a terrifying two-and-a-half week period.

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It's a Wednesday night in September.

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Detective Constable Mai Wong is on duty

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when a report comes in of a robbery at a local general store.

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I was tasked to go out and investigate.

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I went up to the store with crime scene people,

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trying to preserve any evidence that might be there.

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But the only real evidence they find is a CCTV recording.

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It's just before 10.30 in the evening

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when three hooded men storm through the door.

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All are armed.

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One has a large knife.

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One, a claw hammer.

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The other, a baseball bat.

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They demand cash.

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They were threatening to stab people,

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they'll stab them until they're dead.

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A shop assistant goes to push a panic button, but she's not quick enough.

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There's a guy with a claw hammer saying,

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"I'm going to hurt you with my claw hammer if you touch that button."

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The robbers want the code to open the safe.

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They march one of the staff into the office.

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But he doesn't know the combination.

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The robbers don't believe him and punch him in the face.

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He was being told, "I'm going to stab you."

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He was terrified, basically.

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One of the raiders forces one of the assistants to open the till.

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They grab cash and cigarettes,

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but when they realise they can't open the safe,

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the robbers leave with money and goods worth around £1,000.

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But above all, there's the emotional and physical cost to their victims.

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He had a cut to the mouth area where he'd been punched.

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It has a massive impact on him.

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Although it's a couple of minutes for these guys to walk in,

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he's going to think about it over and over again,

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replaying what had happened to him and what could have happened.

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The robbers frightened and intimidated the staff,

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but were careful not to leave any evidence behind.

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Although on the CCTV it looks like they've got bare hands,

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they've actually got gloves on them.

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There were going to be no fingerprints,

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we didn't have any DNA, either.

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So, we didn't have a lot to work with.

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And five days later, the gang strikes again.

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Another armed robbery.

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9.30pm. This motorcyclist pulls up outside another store.

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He flashes a signal.

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Two men with hoods emerge from the shadows and join him.

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They burst into the shop armed with two knives and a baseball bat.

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One assistant is forced to the floor.

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Her colleague is taken to open the safe.

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She's made to hold a bag while a robber fills it with cash.

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She then has to empty the tills at knife-point.

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The gang make off with over £1,500

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and leave behind two more traumatised victims.

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They're doing everything they can to basically put fear into people.

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This time, it's two knives,

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so perhaps you could say that they've upped the ante.

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Once again, no faces and no fingerprints.

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But this time, Mai finds some clues on the CCTV footage.

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Really clearly here, you've got the motorcycle helmet,

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you've got his distinctive jacket and you've got the knife.

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Now, that knife is very distinctive in the colour of the handle

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and the type of knife it is.

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Images of the clothing and weapons

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are circulated around the force.

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And it's not long before there's a breakthrough.

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A week later, police officers stop 24-year-old Levin Cook,

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who's driving a car on a provisional licence.

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He has a passenger with him - 21-year-old Lee Humphreys.

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They seize the car,

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because he shouldn't actually have been driving the car as he was.

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And they ask him,

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"Is there anything that you want to take from your car?"

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He starts to look a bit nervous at this,

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so they get a little bit suspicious.

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"Why doesn't he want us to look in the car?"

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There's a very good reason.

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When they open the boot, the officers find weapons and items of clothing.

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One of the weapons... was a baseball bat.

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It matches the CCTV.

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A knife is found. Now, it's quite distinctive.

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The handle is a bright green colour, which matches this knife.

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They also find a claw hammer,

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a stripy facemask,

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and a bag that looks familiar.

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The pair are arrested, but deny everything.

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The seized weapons and clothing match those captured on CCTV.

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But with no forensics or DNA,

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Mai can't actually prove that Cook and Humphreys are two of the robbers.

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Although there's a lot of circumstantial evidence

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which suggests that they are the people responsible,

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we're unsure if we've got enough

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to say that they are definitely the people there.

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Mai continues the investigation and the hunt for the third robber.

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Cook and Humphreys are released on bail.

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The car they were driving stays with the police.

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Five days later, there's a new development.

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A local resident, Kirsty, drives home from a job interview

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and parks outside her house as usual.

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But later on, in the early hours of the morning,

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when Kirsty, her boyfriend and their pet dogs are all asleep,

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Kirsty is suddenly woken up by a noise outside.

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I could hear my engine...

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I thought it was my engine, my car engine, pulling away.

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She looks out to see her car's been stolen.

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It's just one of those heart-sinking moments, you think...

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no, it really has gone.

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It's not just the loss of the vehicle that's upsetting.

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All the important documents she'd taken to the job interview

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are still in the car and have been stolen, too.

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Things like passport, driving licence, master certificates,

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literally all gone.

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And half of it won't be able to be replaced.

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Then she makes an even more chilling discovery.

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Someone's been in her house.

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The lock on the front door has been forced.

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Her car keys and her boyfriend's wallet have been stolen.

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I've been sleeping, the door was ajar.

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They've had to walk past where I was asleep.

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I didn't hear them. Two big dogs didn't hear them.

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It's a really creepy thought

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to think that someone's maybe looked at you.

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You're at your most vulnerable.

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That's a really scary thing,

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knowing that someone has been in the house with you.

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And the break-in was for a sinister purpose.

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Kirsty's car is used as the getaway car for the next robbery.

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The gang strike again

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and shop worker Amy has to face a frightening ordeal.

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It was scary, yeah. You don't really know what they're going to do.

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They were quite unpredictable.

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A window smashes in a cul-de-sac

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and a neighbour dares to go and look.

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Some people call it stupid going out in the first place.

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Maybe, but I couldn't sit back and do nothing.

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And a man who's oh, so careful with his parking,

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but couldn't care less where he dumps his rubbish.

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And later, he's back, he's changed his car,

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but he hasn't changed his dirty habit.

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However, this driver, who likes to fill his boots with garbage,

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is about to be given the boot himself.

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But first, a camera set up to watch cats catches a large human rat.

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The owner of this house has hired a cat-sitting agency

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to keep an eye on his cat while he's away.

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They set up a camera link to watch the cat...

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but get a nasty shock

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when they see a very different kind of animal creeping up the stairs.

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A sinister intruder who's carrying a large knife.

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Thank heavens there's no-one in the house apart from the cat,

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and they have sensibly scarpered.

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But this cat burglar isn't interested in cats.

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He makes off with a valuable computer.

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But he clearly has cat's eyes himself.

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As he leaves, he spots the camera.

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He grabs it to destroy the evidence.

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But, fortunately, the pictures have already been recorded

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and they're handed over to the police,

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who release the pictures to the media.

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Pretty soon, the cat's out of the bag.

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Someone identifies the thief and he's arrested.

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So, this particular cat is now on his way to the doghouse.

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The police advise us against taking the law into our own hands,

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but the watchful eyes and ears of our neighbours

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can sometimes provide the police with some very useful information.

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Mill Hill, London,

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and a night to remember for the residents of this close.

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I thought, this is really like a sort of Boy's Own story.

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It's a snowy winter's evening.

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A man leaves his car at the top of the cul-de-sac

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and walks in towards the houses.

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But he doesn't live here. He's a burglar.

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Yet he's about to come face-to-face

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with someone who does live here - Peter.

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I said, "Are you burgling that house?"

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Only Peter would feel that it was up to him

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to try and apprehend the burglar.

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Peter puts himself in danger to defend his neighbour's property.

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This guy is bigger than me, fitter than me. I could be in trouble here.

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Peter and his family

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have lived in this quiet cul-de-sac in Mill Hill for 25 years.

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I chose to live here

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because it's a nice, leafy part of north-west London.

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I have a very good relationship with my neighbours. We get on so well.

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It's a lovely road to live in.

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One of the neighbours who's lived here nearly as long as Peter

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is Jilly.

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Peter's quite a character. He's a great chap for having a go.

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And he's a one-off.

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He's completely - dare I use the words - obsessed with CCTV cameras.

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Peter became interested in security cameras after he retired.

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He took up a part-time job as a CCTV operator

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and found he was a natural at spotting villains.

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I was catching more and more people

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and I was getting such a buzz out of it.

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He enjoyed the work so much, he installed his own system at home.

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You know, just to reassure myself

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that if we found our car door open in the middle of the night,

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I could review my cameras.

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The cameras have never caught any evidence of wrongdoing until...

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one dark January evening

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when this car is driven into the quiet cul-de-sac.

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Having circled around, it parks.

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A man gets out and takes care to lock the doors.

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Perhaps he's worried there's a thief about.

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Then he walks along the pavement past Peter's house.

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A few moments later, Peter's daughter hears a disturbing sound.

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GLASS SMASHES

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"Dad," she said, "I've just heard a window break."

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She said, "And I've looked out and there's a strange man outside."

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Before calling the police,

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Peter thinks it's best to go and see what's going on.

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I need to go out and have a look.

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I'll put my coat on and I'll walk up the road.

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I won't get involved in anything.

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But his intention to avoid confrontation doesn't last long.

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He sees a silhouetted figure on his neighbour Jilly's driveway.

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He's at my next door neighbour's window,

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he's got the window wide open, the glass is clearly broken.

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Unfortunately, he saw me as I saw him.

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Peter stands his ground.

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And I said, "Are you burgling that house?"

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I can't believe I said that. But I said, "Are you burgling...?"

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I said, "You are, aren't you? You're a burglar."

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Straight face-to-face.

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I'm six foot one and a half. This guy was above me.

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And then I realised that I could be in trouble here.

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But Peter must look scarier than he thinks.

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He suddenly jumped up in the air, throwing his arms out.

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It was surreal.

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And he ran.

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So, I started to chase after him.

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Peter stays hot on the burglar's heels.

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He runs after him down the road,

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while at the same time phoning for help.

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I'm trying to ring 999, at the same time, keep up with him.

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And I'm not a particularly fast sprinter any more.

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And I looked up and I couldn't see him. And I was so determined.

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I managed to stop a car.

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And I said to him,

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"I'm chasing a guy that's attempted to burgle my neighbour."

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He said, "Get in."

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The pair set off after the man.

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Meanwhile, Jilly has arrived home from work.

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Her headlights illuminate the damage to her home.

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When I saw the glass and the shattered window, I thought,

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"My goodness me, what has happened?"

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And my immediate thought is, "Are the burglars inside?"

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I was on my own, the house was in darkness.

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I might disturb them. I might get hurt.

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Scared, Jilly stays in her car while she works out what to do.

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And then a face appears at her window.

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But it's a friendly face.

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There was our lovely neighbour Peter.

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The burglar got away, but Peter's able to reassure Jilly.

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She was so shocked. She said, "We've been burgled."

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I went, "No, you haven't. No, you haven't."

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I said, "I went out and challenged the guy..."

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I said, "..and he's run off."

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The police arrive within minutes and escort Jilly into her house.

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There was glass inside, but everywhere,

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huge mess,

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which we could clear up once the fingerprinting people had been.

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Peter goes to check his CCTV.

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I didn't expect to find anything on it.

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I said, "But it's worth having a look."

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He casts his trained eyes over the footage

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and tracks the thief's movements.

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He's broken a window and he knows he's made a noise.

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So, he walks off. He's having a look around.

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Making sure nobody's heard it.

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Nobody's come out, so he comes back.

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He does the same thing again.

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The man checks for a second time that nobody has heard the window smash.

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Then he goes back to burgle the house,

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and that's when he's confronted by Peter.

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But the vital thing the footage shows is the would-be burglar's vehicle.

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Couldn't believe he actually parked his car

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outside my other neighbour's house.

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It was clearly him.

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So, straightaway, I looked out the window, the car is still there.

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The police have left Jilly's house,

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but Peter phones and tells them about the car.

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So, they said, "Right, if you could...

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"We'll send officers. If you could get yourself out of sight."

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Which Peter does, though not for long.

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Afraid the man will return before the police arrive,

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he calls on another neighbour and, together, they come up with a plan.

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We decided if we let his tyres down

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then he really couldn't drive off

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and there's every chance the police will catch him.

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And while we're letting the second tyre down,

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I had a phone call and it was a police officer,

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and he said, "Mr Reynolds, where are you?"

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I said, "Well, just letting his tyres down at the moment."

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He went, "Yeah, we're sitting watching you."

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He said, "We're in an unmarked car."

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He said, "It would be more helpful if you actually went out of sight."

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But it turns out that keeping watch on the car isn't necessary.

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Because a man walks into a police station to report a stolen car.

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And it's this car.

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The man is the would-be burglar and he's promptly arrested.

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At last, Peter can relax.

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And I think, in fact, Peter actually thoroughly enjoyed the whole thing

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and was sorry that he couldn't be more part of it

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and the chap didn't come back for his car.

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In court, the man is sentenced to a 12-month community order

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and has to complete a programme of unpaid work.

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Peter's detective work paid off

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and he's awarded a Borough Commander's Commendation

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for his efforts.

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Keeping a burglar in sight wasn't particularly brave.

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Some people call it stupid going out in the first place.

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Maybe, but I couldn't sit back and do nothing.

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Jilly is certainly grateful that her neighbour chose to intervene.

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If Peter had not been next door...

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No, I don't like to think of the consequences, actually.

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Thank goodness for Peter and thank goodness for neighbourly neighbours.

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We can't always rely on having someone like Peter living next door.

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So, what should we do

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if we spot someone acting suspiciously in our neighbourhood?

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You should never confront an offender,

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because their behaviour is often unpredictable.

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They're full of adrenaline,

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they're just in the middle of something they know is wrong,

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could potentially get caught.

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Your safety is much more important.

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If you can see what's happening and they can't see you,

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that's a good place to be.

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Get on the phone to the police

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and describe exactly what you're seeing.

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What height, weight, hair colour, what build,

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what kind of clothing that they've got on,

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because this is something that could be picked up through CCTV.

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And note down what direction that they've left in.

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The police could cut them off at the end of the street

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before they've even got out of the area.

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We really do need to check alarms out when we hear them,

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whether it be a premises or a vehicle.

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We just need to make sure that everything's in order.

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If you do come home and you've had your property broken into,

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then please take the advice of the people on the end of the phone

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that you're talking to, who'll tell you,

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look, don't touch anything, keep away from it,

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you've got a smashed window, dirty footprints on your carpet.

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We'll get our crime scene investigators there

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as soon as we possibly can, gather the vital evidence

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and hopefully help us to catch the bad guys.

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Now, this next chap

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must know the value of sharp-eyed council CCTV operators,

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because he leaves them an extra tip.

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Salford, it's just gone 4pm,

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and this driver is making a bit of a meal of parking his van.

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And it's not just his parking that's a bit suspect.

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Because he now starts illegally throwing trash

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out the back of the van and into the bushes.

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When he's done,

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he manages to drive off a darned sight quicker than he drove in.

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Now, rubbish attracts rubbish, it seems.

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Because later that evening, another vehicle parks up

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and this driver, too, starts chucking out junk.

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And bizarrely,

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he pushes the waste dumped earlier further into the undergrowth.

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But it's all caught on this camera, and when council investigators

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check out these two cars' numberplates with the DVLA,

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well, guess what.

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It turns out both vehicles are registered to the very same person,

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a local businessman who sells mobile phone accessories.

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But now he's found a new twist to that old rule of business -

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where there's muck, there's money.

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Because his mucking about

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has lost him a whopping £1,400 in costs and compensation.

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Hopefully, he'll dispose of his rubbish properly in future

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and stick to using the black car.

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He seems better at driving that one.

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Back to Bristol,

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where a gang of armed robbers has raided two shops in less than a week.

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But DC Mai Wong is on the trail.

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The trio of robbers have hit two convenience stores

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just five days apart, terrorising the staff.

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He was terrified, basically.

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I mean, he had a knife in his face, it was waved in his face.

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He was being told, "I'm going to stab you."

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Two men, Cook and Humphreys, were arrested

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after a stash of weapons was found in the boot of their car.

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But without enough proof to hold them, they were released on bail.

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Mai and the team are trying to find more evidence.

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Five days later, a nearby resident, Kirsty,

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has her house broken into and her car stolen.

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It's knowing that you've been asleep

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and someone's been in the house with you.

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That's a really scary thing.

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The very next evening,

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a stolen car is spotted by an off-duty police officer.

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The three men inside it catch his eye

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because they are behaving suspiciously.

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They all had their hoods up, so they kept their faces covered.

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And he thought, "This isn't right. Something's about to happen."

0:23:480:23:52

As the off-duty officer phones to alert his police colleagues,

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the car drives off.

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In fact, it's heading to a nearby area of Bristol

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where it pulls up outside a convenience store.

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Inside, shop supervisor Amy is working the late shift.

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Well, it was really my first shift as being supervisor,

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so I was in charge and I was working with one other colleague.

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Three men burst in, all carrying knives.

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I was aware that someone had just walked up to me

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with a knife in their hand and a balaclava

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and I realised what situation I was in.

0:24:220:24:24

Two robbers grab cigarettes and force Amy's colleague to open the till

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while Amy is taken at knife-point to the office safe.

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It was scary, yeah. You don't really know what they're going to do.

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They were quite unpredictable.

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Amy struggles to open the safe.

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My hands were shaking a little bit. I was a bit shaky, yeah.

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After the safe is emptied of cash,

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Amy is ordered back out to join her colleague and the robbers leave.

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And we just sort of, you know, took in what had just happened.

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Amy's shaken. Her colleague's traumatised.

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She broke down a little bit, so I went round to give her a hug.

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But, yeah, she was pretty shaken after they'd left.

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As the robbers attempt their getaway, Amy phones the police.

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But units are already closing in.

0:25:090:25:11

Because the off-duty police officer said,

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"Something's about to go down,"

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people have started to make their way to that area.

0:25:150:25:17

A helicopter goes up and starts to track the car.

0:25:170:25:21

The robbers realise they are not going to outrun a helicopter.

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They stop the car and split up

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to make it harder to catch up with them.

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But now there are a lot of officers flooding the area

0:25:290:25:32

and two of the robbers are captured.

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They are familiar faces.

0:25:340:25:36

It's Levin Cook and Lee Humphreys again.

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The police find the stolen goods from Amy's shop dumped in a field nearby.

0:25:410:25:45

And we recover the cigarettes, the cash, and the clothing

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which is identical to the clothing that's worn in the robbery.

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This time, Cook and Humphreys have been caught red-handed.

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But there's still their accomplice, the third man, on the loose.

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We've got two people in custody.

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I know that I've got to look for another person.

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So, I start to look at links.

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Who have police officers seen these boys with?

0:26:060:26:08

Build up a case for a third person to be arrested.

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One person who emerges is 18-year-old Bradley Johnson.

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So, I started to look at his social media accounts

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and some of his friends' social media accounts.

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In various pictures,

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Johnson is seen in similar clothing to the robberies

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and can be linked to Cook and Humphreys.

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He's arrested and his phone seized.

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And on this mobile phone,

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we found a picture of him on a scooter

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in very distinctive clothing.

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He is wearing the crash helmet from the second robbery

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and he's wearing the clothing from the CCTV throughout the robberies.

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They've caught the third man.

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Since the start of the robberies just over two weeks ago,

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Mai and her team have collected a large amount of evidence.

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From having nothing, we've then got clothing,

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we've got CCTV, we've got weapons,

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and we've got them almost caught at the scene of the third robbery.

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Faced with the evidence,

0:27:040:27:06

the robbers have no choice but to plead guilty in court.

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Johnson is sentenced to four years.

0:27:130:27:15

Humphreys gets five years and seven months.

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And Cook is locked away for six years and eight months.

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They're now safely off the streets.

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They've been put in prison,

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which is a really good result for the victims of this

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who've been affected by it for months.

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We've managed to put three really nasty robbers away

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for some period of time.

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I was glad that they got what was coming to them

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and I felt that they got the sentences they deserved.

0:27:430:27:47

And there's some good news for Kirsty. She got her car back.

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And although her important documents weren't recovered,

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she was offered the job that she'd gone for on the day of the burglary.

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Yeah, I was really, really pleased, actually, that I got the job,

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which meant that I didn't have to try and get

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all the documents together within a week or something like that

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for the next interview.

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So, that was the saving grace, yeah.

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That's it for today.

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Join us next time,

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when police and the public catch more criminals red-handed.

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