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When this cell door slams shut on a criminal, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
you might think they've got their just deserts. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
But the law doesn't stop there. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
Criminals are now having their most prized possessions hunted down, | 0:00:08 | 0:00:13 | |
seized and sold at auction to the highest bidder. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
Welcome to Ill Gotten Gains. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
In this programme, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:41 | |
West Midlands Police pay a fraudster an early morning visit, | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
and get a first-hand look at what the millions | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
he conned out of the state were actually spent on. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
There was lots of designer shoes, designer handbags, | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
high-value vehicles such as Bentleys and Mercedes on the drive. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
This lady was robbed by a cruel conman, | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
and her daughter was heartbroken. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
In many ways, it was as bad as a physical attack. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
But Trading Standards used the law | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
to make the conman pay back what he stole. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
And a community mixed martial arts club | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
that's in danger of losing its funding | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
gets a windfall from cash seized from criminals. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
It just meant they could really give the place a revamp, | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
we could provide, particularly some of the higher-level lads, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
with the facilities they needed to push onto the next level. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
Across Britain every day, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
teams of specialist police officers are using a powerful law called | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
the Proceeds of Crime Act to take cash and property | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
from people who make money in illegal ways. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
They might be fraudsters, drug dealers or benefits cheats, | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
but any cash they made through breaking the law | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
will be taken away by police. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:55 | |
They've seized over £150 million from crooks in a year. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:03 | |
And it's not just cash that gets seized. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
This building may not look like Sotheby's, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
but millions of pounds' worth of goods owned by crooks | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
get sold off here every year. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
This is a location miles away from London where they hold | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
barely advertised auctions called proceeds of crime sales. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
They're open to the public, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
and any ill-gotten gains seized by the police | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
will get sold to the highest bidder. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
Up and down the country, there are secret locations like this one, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
where the police store assets seized from criminals using the powerful | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
Proceeds of Crime law, designed to hit crooks where it hurts the most - | 0:02:40 | 0:02:45 | |
in their pockets. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:46 | |
And the police can take everything a criminal has bought | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
with money made from crime. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
If you think of anything that you could buy, or would want to buy, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
whether it be symbolic, status, something you require... | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
So it can go from property, a lot of money's invested in property, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
there's cars, there is all the associated bling, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
jewellery, watches, there's... | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
People have bought boats, artwork, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
there was cases in the past of racehorses, greyhounds, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
anything of monetary value or a status symbol. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
Once police have proven a case against a criminal, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
they can start to target and seize the crook's possessions | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
and some crooks have assets the rest of us can only dream of. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
Rolex, Cartier, Breitling - | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
some of the most desirable brands in Britain. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
And brands like this are massively popular | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
with underworld figures across the country. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
Like this man, drug dealer Mohammed Aslam. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
He ran a massive Class A drug-dealing operation | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
in the Bradford area. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:51 | |
Police believe he made millions of pounds from his drug operations, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
and spent it wisely, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
even buying this nice Rolex for £25,000. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:02 | |
But later on, his prized watch will be going under the hammer. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
Police investigating drug dealing in the Bradford area | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
also came across this man, Mahboob Alam. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
He also made a fortune dealing drugs on the streets of Bradford. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
Both men were being investigated by West Yorkshire Police. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
They sold an array of what we call Class A drugs, | 0:04:19 | 0:04:24 | |
namely heroin and cocaine. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:25 | |
We're talking, on both operations, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
over 40 kilos of drugs were recovered. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
Street value all told was around six million pounds' worth, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
that this group of individuals, those two, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
played significant parts in. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
And the West Yorkshire team were very keen to put a halt | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
to the two dealers' thriving illegal businesses. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
During our work and the investigation that we did, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
we were aware that a large amount of money | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
was spent on holidays and cars | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
so we were alive to those... | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
benefits that they were making from their crime. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
The police successfully charged both men with drug-dealing offences, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
and they were sentenced to 17 years and seven years respectively. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
But police weren't finished with them there. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
Proceeds of Crime laws are now used to strip crooks of profits. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
After investigation by Yorkshire Police's | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
Asset Confiscation Enforcement team, known as the Ace, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
the men were ordered to pay back £1 million | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
they had made as proceeds of crime. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
It was the Ace's job to pinpoint exactly what assets the men had | 0:05:25 | 0:05:30 | |
so they could be sold off, and they were in for a surprise. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
In respect of Mahboob Alam... | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
..the overall confiscation order included | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
a small street in Bradford comprising of four houses. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
You heard right. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:46 | |
The cunning dealer had bought a whole street in Bradford, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
as an investment that he hoped would grow in value. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
But the Ace team put his street up for sale. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
It was sold off for an undisclosed sum, | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
and is now no longer owned by Mahboob Alam. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
And that's money going back to the public purse. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
And fellow drug dealer Mohammed Aslam got the same treatment. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
The Proceeds of Crime investigation took this watch clean off his wrist. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
Successful drug dealers can come into a lot of money, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
and things like watches are very, very portable assets. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
They're very easily transferable - | 0:06:22 | 0:06:23 | |
if you do run out of money, there's always a market for them. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
In some cases they go up in value, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
they can be a good asset in terms of appreciation. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
But again, in terms of...promoting an image, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
a watch is one of those symbolistic things of, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
"Look at me," you know, "Look how much I'm worth," sort of thing, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
or, "Look at my status," or whatever, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
which is often the motivation behind drug dealers | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
or people of that criminal ilk and organised crime and all this | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
is around image and status. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
Group asset recovery manager Aidan Larkin | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
is well aware of how popular these watches are. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
Lot 83 is a Rolex Oyster. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
It's brand-new, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:57 | |
it still has the original cellophane and plastic around the watch, | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
box, papers, it's in perfect condition, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
a watch like this, particularly in 18-carat rose gold, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
rose gold is very desirable, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
and it's the current fashion of a lot of watchmakers, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
so this watch will easily go past £10,000 at the auction, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
and probably as high as £15,000. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
In the auction hall, prospective buyers | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
are already taking an interest in the extravagant watch. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
I think there will be some strong bidding, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
particularly with items like these, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
we've a large online following, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:25 | |
so, physically, you don't have to come to an auction, | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
most people will bid, now, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:29 | |
just in the comfort of their own home on an app. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
So we'll find watches like this, particularly with box and papers, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
will be attractive to the trade and private bidders alike. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
A lot of people just like the fun of the fair | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
and the razzmatazz of the auction to see everything that's happening. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
And the police teams that smashed the £6 million drug operation | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
are delighted to see that this watch is going to be sold. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
When we look at the financial constraints that we place upon them, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
that looks at things like realising the assets they have, | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
like the Rolex watch, selling it through the auction, | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
so that we realise that into monies | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
that can be fed back into helping the community. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
So therefore, the financial penalties are actually paid | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
by selling the assets that they've acquired, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
and ensuring things like the property they've had are sold, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
so that the money is realised. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
That is one of the main... | 0:08:17 | 0:08:18 | |
..factors of the Proceeds of Crime Act for us to utilise. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
And it's a visible thing. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
People can see it's actually taking place and they want it to happen | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
because they don't want to see people getting rich | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
out of somebody else's misery taking drugs... | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
and the drugs that we see on our streets. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
-Once. -Later on, we'll see how much the very desirable Rolex... | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
Twice. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:43 | |
..actually fetches at auction. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
It's not just drug dealers who pay big money for expensive jewellery. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
One of the country's biggest ever fraudsters liked to spend his cash | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
on all the finest things, but didn't spare a penny for the taxman. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
Every year, police officers like Derek Tinsley in the West Midlands | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
recover millions of pounds from criminals that the police arrest. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
Derek is a financial investigator who has handled many complex cases, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
but some of them stand out, even to experienced eyes like his. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
And the case of Tommy Scragg is one of those. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
This is footage taken by police | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
as they raided Tommy Scragg's home in Solihull. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
Throughout his very expensive property, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
they discovered overwhelming evidence that Scragg | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
had a lot of money to spend on things the rest of us can't afford. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
He even paid his bodyguards enough money to buy a Lamborghini, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
but they wrote it off in an accident. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
But why did West Midlands Police decide to raid his home? | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
Well, Tommy Scragg was | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
one of the UK's most brash and public criminals. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
He'd been living the high life, | 0:09:57 | 0:09:58 | |
flaunting extravagant wealth in the streets, and showing off | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
a seemingly endless supply of designer goods. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
That made investigators at West Midlands Police's | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
Regional Asset Recovery team | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
suspicious that the money was coming from crime. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
Derek started a covert investigation. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
Generally, financial investigations are quite covert. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
What we tend to do is more or less out of the public view, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
and also anybody else's view that we're actually looking at. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
Derek was able to access Tommy Scragg's financial records, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
and in particular, his income. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
And the devil was in the detail. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
From this document here, what I can actually see is that his earnings | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
during this period is approximately £40,000, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
but what he was doing was taking in dividends from the business | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
for up to £133,000. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
Next, Derek looked closely at how much Scragg was spending. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
So turning the page here, I can see he's got his home address. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
And in reality, that's nearly £900,000 worth to buy. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
He's got a vehicle, a Bentley, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
approximately £150,000 to buy. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
He has got various amounts of... | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
memorabilia, sporting memorabilia, | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
such as Wayne Rooney's FA football boots, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
signed England shirts... | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
Diego Maradona's World Cup shirt. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
Several bank accounts, for which there's over £60,000 at this time | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
that he's got a balance on. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
I'm going through... | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
..buy-to-let properties that he had, 16 of them. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
To purchase, anywhere between £200,000 to £300,000, really. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:47 | |
So all of those added together far outweighs, effectively, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
what his legitimate and declared income is. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
So there's clearly a big disparity, and the question, really, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
for us, as financial investigators, is to try and come up with an idea | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
as to how he's funding, you know, this opulent lifestyle. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
Derek and his team discovered that Thomas Scragg and his friends | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
liked to live the sort of life some of us could only dream of. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
Photos such as these at celebrity charity events were later presented | 0:12:14 | 0:12:19 | |
as evidence by the police to show Tommy Scragg's lifestyle. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
And Tommy enjoyed the company of celebrity friends. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
So this epitomises what Tommy Scragg was all about. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
Here you can see one of his friends, money is no object, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
drinking the champagne, having the lifestyle | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
and looking at all the cash strewn all over the bed. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
Probably somewhere in the region between £80,000 and £100,000 here. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
As a financial investigator, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
Derek's suspicions were aroused. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
He looked closer at the company Thomas Scragg ran, Moya, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
a payroll firm who handled accounts for construction companies | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
and Derek found where Scragg's endless supply of money was coming from. | 0:12:55 | 0:13:00 | |
Looking at their bank accounts, it was quite apparent that there was | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
millions of pounds that's going through the bank account, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
which actually was quite alarming. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
And that required further investigation, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
which eventually identified that it was a fraud | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
that was being perpetrated against HMRC | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
in the theft of VAT and PAYE. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
Derek had discovered Tommy Scragg's company never paid any VAT, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
and that they weren't passing on | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
employees' PAYE contributions to the government. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
Instead, that money was being pocketed by Scragg. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
It added up to millions of pounds, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
so it was no wonder Tommy Scragg seemed to be living the high life. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
Derek had seen enough, | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
and nine months after the investigation started, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
West Midlands Police raided Tommy's home. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
What they found stunned them. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
When we went in, we found lots of sporting memorabilia, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
there was cash and high-value jewellery such as Rolexes, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
you know, strewn across the property. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
And I think it was a bit of a surprise, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
the extent of the value of jewellery and memorabilia | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
that was at the house, it was quite surprising. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
So as we went through the house, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
and we were searching the house for evidence of the offence, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
it was quite apparent that there was designer clothing, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
there was lots of designer shoes, designer handbags, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
high-value vehicles such as Bentleys and Mercedes on the drive. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
There was cash strewn in all sorts of places, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
even the bedside table, you know, in the bedroom, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
expensive jewellery such as Rolexes. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
The sort of lifestyle that Thomas Scragg and his family were living | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
can only be described as the champagne, | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
high-value end of life, really. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
Following on from the raid at his house, Tommy Scragg was arrested. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
Prior to his trial, police wanted to question him about money. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
Officers asked Mr Scragg, effectively, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
"We're going to now move on to questions in relation to you | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
"and your personal finances now. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:55 | |
"Do you own that property?" | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
He replied, "No comment." | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
"Do you have a mortgage on that property?" | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
"No comment." | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
"Is it solely in your name?" "No comment." | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
"What's the value of that property?" "No comment." | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
"And what's the current mortgage on that property?" | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
"No comment." | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
"Who is the mortgage held with?" | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
There was just silence. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:14 | |
But on the back of Derek's investigation, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
a judge determined that Scragg was guilty of not paying | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
an astounding £26 million of VAT and PAYE payments. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:25 | |
The judge gave Scragg a 17-year jail sentence, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
and ordered him to repay £1 million to the state, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
which was all the money Scragg was deemed to have left. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
It was one of the highest sentences | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
any person, for fraud, has received in the UK. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
With Thomas Scragg, all of his known assets such as his watches, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:51 | |
you know, and all his sporting memorabilia | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
was auctioned off in order to satisfy his confiscation order, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
and other assets, such as his house and vehicles, were repossessed. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
So in effect, Tommy Scragg has got none of the benefits | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
from his criminality any more. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
And of course, his assets were all put up for auction and sold off. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
But for Derek, it's all about detecting the fraud. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
The quality of the investigation, you know, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
it is a success moment for the whole investigation team. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
The Proceeds of Crime Act has been used | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
to tackle some of the UK's biggest fraudsters, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
but victims on the south coast found the law just as useful | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
for getting their money back from a local rogue trader. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
Often, the Proceeds of Crime Act is used to bring major fraudsters | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
and drug dealers down to financial size. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
But it worked just as well when Trading Standards discovered | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
a local conman who was targeting the elderly. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
92-year-old Joan Davis was tricked into believing her roof needed | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
extensive repair work by a rogue roofer named John Gray. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
Her daughter Val remembers what happened. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
He told her that the tiles were thinning, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
and really, she needed a new roof, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
and that would cost £70,000 to £80,000. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
She let the chap in, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:14 | |
and let him into the roof to have a look, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
where he took some pictures, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
apparently on something like a tablet or a smartphone, | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
she wasn't sure what it was. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:22 | |
But apparently, this showed, "Bloom on the timbers," he said, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
which was caused by salt blowing in through cracks. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
But conman John Gray and his firm, named RoofRevivers, | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
offered to help her out. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
He said, "Well, there is an alternative. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
"I have got this special coating we can put on, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
"and that should be £20,000 to £24,000, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
"just to put the coating on. But of course, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
"it would be that much cheaper than the £70,000 to £80,000 | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
"that the full roof replacement would cost. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
"But I could give you a discount for this and a discount for that," | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
and eventually, he got it down to about £8,000. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
But he said, "But you've got to make up your mind straightaway." | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
RoofRevivers shouldn't have been pressuring | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
92-year-old Joan in this way. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
But she decided to cough up £8,000 | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
to repair a roof that didn't need any work. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
She was furious with me. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
She didn't want to accept that this had happened. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
It was very, very difficult to convince her. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
Very painful, lots of rows and horrible conversations | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
with her putting the phone down on me. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
And I thought she was actually going to put up the shutters and say, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
"I don't want to see you ever again." It was very, very upsetting. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
Very upsetting for her, and for me as well. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
And she wasn't the only one. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
The local Trading Standards team received numerous complaints | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
about John Gray, and how he was misleading elderly homeowners | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
that he could work wonders with their roofs, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
then was pocketing thousands of their cash for his own use. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
Trading Standards decided to use the Proceeds Of Crime law | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
to see if they could get back the money | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
from John Gray's painting scam. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:08 | |
There were various claims made about the coloured paint | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
that were too good to be true. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
No paint is going to do that, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
which was proved in our evidence. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:19 | |
It was just a coloured paint. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
I think it really damaged her self-confidence. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
In many ways, it was as bad as a physical attack, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
as bad as a mugging, because... | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
..she had thought she could trust her mind, trust her judgment, | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
and she'd fallen for a trickster. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
Trading Standards carried out a full investigation of John Gray | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
and his cons, and as a result, | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
he was jailed for eight months. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
But they were after more. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
We decided to take a Proceeds Of Crime investigation, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:55 | |
and we looked to get back the money | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
that the consumers had been paid, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
and we were successfully able to get a compensation order | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
so that the victims that were involved in the case | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
were able to get a substantial amount of their money back. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
And the Proceeds of Crime investigation | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
turned the screw on John Gray. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
A further search by the County Council's financial investigator | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
unearthed more than £16,000, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
which a judge ordered Gray to hand over to his victims. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
Sadly, Joan passed away just weeks before Grey's trial, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
and didn't get to see the justice she so deserved. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
She died five weeks before the trial. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:37 | |
I think she would have been relieved, yes, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
to know that he was jailed, and also | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
that a fair bit of money was recovered. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
This was a terrific result for Trading Standards. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
It's a sign to the traders out there that crime doesn't pay, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
you may have to serve your time in prison, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
but also, you're going to have to repay | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
some of the money to the victims as well. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
Trading Standards have done an amazing job | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
under the Proceeds of Crime Act, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
and have recovered just over half my mother's money. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
And that, I think, is a wonderful thing. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
The Proceeds of Crime Act can help the vulnerable and elderly | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
recover money they've had stolen. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
But it can also help community projects, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
like this one in South Wales. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
One area of the country that's seen its share of problems with crime | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
is Blaina, near Gwynedd in Wales. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
Richard Sean knows the area well - he grew up here. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
Blaina's always been a tough area, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
same as all the surrounding towns, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:40 | |
your Abertillery, your Brynmawr, Six Bells. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
They're all mining communities. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
There's high unemployment in the area, | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
there's not a lot of money, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
there's no money coming in and being invested into the area, | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
so, yeah, it's a tough area, and I think kids have been brought up, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
they've had to fight, really, from a very, very young age. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
It's the sort of place where extra activities can help pass the time, | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
and 20 years ago, Richard took up martial arts. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
Started off with judo and karate. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
For the past 15 years, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:12 | |
I've been training jujitsu boxing and mixed martial arts. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
Something I do every day of my life. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
So it's a lifestyle as well as anything else. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
There's not a lot of work here. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:23 | |
Male unemployment is double the British average. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
The only business doing well locally is the boarding-up business. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
An atmosphere like this can be a driver for crime. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
But Richard had other ideas. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
Lots of people have left the area over the years, you know... | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
Myself, I decided to stay put and open my own martial arts academy. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
And it was a justified decision, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:45 | |
I think we're doing really well at the moment. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
We started off in a little cellar under a nightclub, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
there was 12 of us. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
The club's just gone from strength to strength. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
More and more people getting involved, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
youngsters taking themselves off the street, | 0:22:56 | 0:22:57 | |
coming in and doing something positive. | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
Nine years on, we're up in Blaina. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
We've gone from a population of 12 to 60, 70 students now | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
and it's been something really positive for the area. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
But like everything else in Blaina, the club began to run out of money. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
The club hit a crossroads a while back, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
inasmuch as everything was worn and torn, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
the equipment had had its day, a lot of the stuff we had was handed down, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
or purchased second-hand. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:20 | |
We were getting no investment, no funding off anybody, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
none of the councils were willing to help. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
We didn't have any option of taking the club to the next level, | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
so we were at risk of closing, to be honest. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
With no money to spend, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:32 | |
it was looking like another business in Blaina would be closing down. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
But there was a rare ray of light in this former mining town. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
I was at home one day on the computer, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
and had a message on Facebook | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
off somebody that I hadn't spoken to for many years, | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
just saying, he thought it was great what we were doing with the club, | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
and what we were doing with the community. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
And I responded with, you know, | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
we're at a bit of a crossroads, really, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
contemplating closing the gym down | 0:23:57 | 0:23:58 | |
because of the lack of facilities there. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
And he told me that the Proceeds of Crime Act | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
were handing out funding through the police. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
Richard's local Police And Crime Commissioner ran a scheme | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
whereby local groups could apply for money | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
to help boost their activities. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
Richard filled in the forms online | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
and put in an application for funding for the club. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
It was a long few months, waiting for the decision off the police | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
to decide whether we would be awarded funding. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
The club was on its knees, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
but their application had made it through to the Commissioner. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
A couple months after we put the application in, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
I received a phone call off a lovely lady telling me that | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
we'd been awarded the whole amount, the whole £5,000, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
which really took me aback, to be honest, | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
did not expect it at all. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
Over the moon, really pleased. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
It just meant I could really give the place a revamp, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
we could provide, particularly some of the higher-level lads, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
with the facility they needed to push on to the next level | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
within their martial arts journey as well. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
With Proceeds of Crime money behind them, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
the club's sporting success really took off. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
And now local Blaina kids had a very physical, but very worthwhile, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
place to spend their time. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:08 | |
And now, the club has a thriving membership. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
We've established ourselves now as | 0:25:15 | 0:25:16 | |
probably one of the top-tier teams in Europe. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
We've got British champions at every single belt level, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
from white up to black. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
We've got medallists at European level, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
at various belt levels. We've got three fighters, now, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
which are currently ranked in the top ten in Europe. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
We've got the facility, we've got the numbers, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
we've got a good student base, we're getting bigger and bigger. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
We've got affiliation clubs in different areas, down in Cardiff, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
over in Blaenavon, for example. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
We've got people travelling from all over to come and train with us | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
so I really think it's just a matter of time before we get somebody | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
into the UFC, and we just continue to grow as we are, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
still putting people out there, competing regularly | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
and winning gold medals. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
And one young fighter the club has trained | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
is really making a name for himself on the club circuit. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
Jack Marshman used to get in trouble with the police, | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
but now he's rated as one of Europe's top MMA competitors. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
I train here twice a day, six times a week, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
so it is brilliant, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
we've got tonnes of pros that we train with, it's a brilliant gym. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
Jack has turned his back on his old life and has really thrown himself | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
into being a top-notch competitive sportsman with the club's help. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
I've been with Richard for... | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
..maybe 11 years now, you know, | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
since I was a kid, and I definitely wouldn't be where I was going to be | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
if it wasn't for him. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:43 | |
Yeah, I think I am a contender. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:47 | |
I'm one of the highest ranked Welsh fighters in Europe, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
and my next fight will probably see me a world title shot, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
to be honest with you, so it's going there. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
Mixed martial arts is such a growth sport that big international clubs | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
have massive facilities for their fighters to train in. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
And Tillery Combat needs to do what it can | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
to provide the best facilities. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
If I want to grow as a fighter, I'm going to need a gym | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
with these sort of people in, and the coaches that we've got | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
and training partners we've got. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
Having had a boost of cash from the criminals' coffers, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
the club is going from strength to strength. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
Without it, we wouldn't be here doing what we're doing today, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
so they've given us a facility | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
that's comparable with anywhere, now, in the UK, | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
so without the funding from the Police Commissioners, | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
we wouldn't be where we are today. We'd be closed, probably. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
Drug dealers across the country lose millions of pounds every year | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
because financial investigators seize their assets, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
and the police can take anything | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
they believe was bought with illegal money. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
Watches, jewellery and cars are often the type of possessions seized | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
by police from criminals to sell onto a proceeds of crime auction. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
But staff at the auction house are seeing a new trend emerging. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
Instead of giving them bling to sell, | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
the police are sending them a criminal's art collection. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
Yeah, what we find is you can notice the trends. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
Five, ten years ago, it was all about sort of | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
the standard stereotypical bling items, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
the diamonds and the jewellery. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
What we find now is people who have money, | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
whether it's illegally or not, are still looking for | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
a more sound investment as somewhere to put their money, | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
and what they've found, with people like Banksy coming on the scene, | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
is that an investment in modern art is as good as an investment | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
in the stereotypical Rolex or the gold bars. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
These stills were taken by officers | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
that had just raided the flat of a drug dealer in Brighton. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
Unsurprisingly, police found evidence of drugs being in the flat, | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
just as their investigations had suggested. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
But the gear hanging on the walls was a surprise. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
You may not recognise any of the artworks this dealer had, | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
but it's highly desirable work on the contemporary scene, | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
and is worth thousands. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:10 | |
Proceeds of Crime expert Mick Beattie knows the case. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
The art was seized as part of an investigation into an individual, | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
Trevor Baker. When they searched his house, they found controlled drugs | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
and he was convicted in relation to those. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
Part of his financial investigation into his life circumstances, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
they identified he had substantial amounts of money | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
going through bank accounts. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:30 | |
They also found evidence that he was trying to launder this money | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
he was making, no doubt from the drug trafficking, through artwork. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
Modern art is a viable asset. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
What you want, as a criminal, is you want to put your money somewhere, | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
either you want to spend it, | 0:29:42 | 0:29:43 | |
so you either want something of status and symbolism, | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
or you want something that's a sound investment. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
And following an investigation, | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
the owner of this rather ill-kept flat was guilty of drug dealing | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
and ordered to repay a hefty £50,000 | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
that a judge said he'd made in profits. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
Police have already taken his car off him, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
and now his art is up for sale. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
It's no longer hanging on his wall. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
Instead, it's hanging up here, at the auction house, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
with potential buyers hoping to snap it up at a good price. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
One of the most significant lots from the dealer's collection is | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
this rather eye-catching piece called Hammerheadz by James Cauty. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
And auctioneer Aidan Larkin is about to find out what it will go for. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
This one's called Hammerheadz. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:27 | |
Very, very collectable, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
and we know there's quite a few online waiting to buy this, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
so who will kick me off? | 0:30:32 | 0:30:33 | |
£50, I'm bid. Bid in at £50. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
Gentleman's bid at £50. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
I have 100 online now, I have 100 online. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
150? At £150, it's with the online bidder, Hammerheadz. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
150, it's in the hall now. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
200, now, against you. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:46 | |
250, 300. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
Gormley's said 2,000-5,000. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
It's with the online bidder at £300. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
350. At 450, it's in the hall, | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
at £450, | 0:30:55 | 0:30:56 | |
it's with the hall bidder now at £450, and you bid £500. | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
New bidder, 550, online, straight in again. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
575 here. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:04 | |
600, new bid. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:05 | |
625. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:06 | |
650. 675? | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
Shakes the head, it's here at 650. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
It's a new bidder at £650 once, | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
650 twice, third and last... | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
-HE TAPS HAMMER -Sold. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:18 | |
Hammerheadz went very well. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:19 | |
The modern art has such a strong following. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
There's always a bit of uncertainty | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
with those particular types of items, | 0:31:23 | 0:31:24 | |
because they really are bespoke pieces. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
You have to find the right buyers, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:28 | |
but with a good, steady sort of marketing campaign beforehand, | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
we're very pleased to see there was a lot of competitive bidding, | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
people were bidding online, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
people were bidding in the hall and it did very well in the end. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
And it seems experts from the art world are not at all surprised | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
that edgy, contemporary work is looking good to criminals. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
They think art values are only going one way. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
Current contemporary market at the moment's just fantastic, you know, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
it just keeps going up and up and up, | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
especially in the street art | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
or urban art sort of genre, if you like. | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
I think it's potentially the biggest movement of our times, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
the street art movement. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:04 | |
And that reflects in the market. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
And currently, the market is what is happening right here at this | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
Proceeds of Crime auction of the jailed dealer's art. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
Potential buyers are showing considerable interest, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
and whatever gets bid on the works here | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
will be returned to the government. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:20 | |
Operation Magic Kingdom - War Can Be Fun, again, artist James Cauty. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
Let's kick things off. It's unreserved. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
£500 anywhere? | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
£500 I'm bid. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:31 | |
Bid in at £500 on the Cauty. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:33 | |
At £600, gentlemen's bid at 600. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
At £600, shakes the head, 700, new bid online. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
At 700, 800 seated. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
It's in the hall, that's valued at 800, 900. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
950, new bid. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:44 | |
At £950. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:45 | |
£1,000, one online bidder. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
Shakes the head. It's at £1,000. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
Valued from 2,000-5,000 up with Gormley's. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
1,050, I knew you were thinking about it. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
At £1,050 once... | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
1,050 twice, third and last... | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
HE TAPS HAMMER | 0:33:01 | 0:33:02 | |
Magic Kingdom, it was by the same artist as Hammerheadz, | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
and what you find in an auction, | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
when you achieve a certain price with a certain artist, | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
then other peepers, other speculators, | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
will then all of a sudden realise... | 0:33:11 | 0:33:12 | |
"Hmm, I'd be interested in buying that as well." | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
So it also did very, very well and exceeded our expectations. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
By the end of the auction, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
the sale of various artworks has raised an impressive £1,700. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:25 | |
The public purse has made a pretty penny | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
from some not-so-pretty pictures. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
Selling off a drug dealer's paintings | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
can raise money through Proceeds of Crime, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
and some of that money can go back into the community, | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
as this charity found out. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
Seagulls Reuse was set up in 2013 | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
by two friends looking to stop unnecessary waste in the area. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
They never imagined they'd wind up getting help | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
from money seized from criminals. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:57 | |
In Leeds alone, | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
tonnes of unused paint were being chucked out every year. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
And they had a novel idea of how to prevent this. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
Back in the days when there weren't any green recycling bins | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
or, really, any awareness of recycling and re-use, | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
we thought we could do something about that. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
Our belief's always been that one man's rubbish is another's gold, | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
and, you know, why couldn't we make money out of rubbish | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
for ourselves and for others, really? | 0:34:22 | 0:34:23 | |
Somebody came up with the idea of paint and we sort of | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
hounded the council, for want of a better word. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
-I think they saw that we were passionate, didn't they? -Yeah. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
-And that we weren't going to... -Weren't going to give up. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
We weren't going to give up and go anywhere, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:35 | |
-so they might as well work with us, I suppose. -Yeah. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
With some paint on the market at £30 a pot, | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
and with the average household owning 17 tins, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
Cat and Kat wanted to use the leftover paint | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
and remix it to sell as a cheaper alternative. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
This enterprising pair wanted to see the waste repurposed | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
and offer a scheme which would have a positive impact on the community. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
Our passion has always been people, as well as the planet, | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
as cheesy as that sounds. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:02 | |
We like to think that we do grow people, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
so people can come to us with very low self-esteem, | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
very low confidence. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
They think they have no skills, | 0:35:09 | 0:35:10 | |
although that's actually usually rubbish. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
I think what we excel at here is that there's an individual programme | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
for each person and it's their needs that are met in terms of | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
what they do here and how they progress. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
Me being a single mum when I first came to Leeds, you know, | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
I got involved in a voluntary project and it really helped me | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
in building confidence and making me feel worthwhile, | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
and we just wanted to pass that down to everybody else, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
and we live in an area where there's a lot of need for that, | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
and there's a lot of people who were looking for things to do | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
and support, and the right kind of support, | 0:35:37 | 0:35:38 | |
and I think that's really important. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
Running this paint recycling plant isn't cheap. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
Seagulls needed to raise money to keep the scheme going, | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
and re-use what would otherwise have been thrown away. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
We didn't quite know it at the time, but the process of | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
collecting the paint, mixing the paint, selling the paint, | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
it takes a lot of people power and a lot of people energy, really. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
In 2015, the local Police And Crime Commissioner | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
was offering cash seized from criminals to help local groups. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
Seagulls weren't sure if they could get funding, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
but put in an application. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
It was a mighty relief when they received £5,000 | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
that would help keep them working. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
Our volunteer programme does rely on external funding. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
We can't support that just from the work we do within the enterprise, | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
so it's vital, really, that we get funds like the Proceeds of Crime. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
-And it does really makes sense, doesn't it? -Yeah. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
To have the Proceeds of Crime money to go back into projects | 0:36:35 | 0:36:39 | |
like ourselves, who are working with people | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
who, A, have either been in prison | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
or B, have a risk of going into prison, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
so that we could make sure we were engaging with as many ex-offenders | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
-as we could. -It's very difficult for them to engage elsewhere, | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
so they tend to stay with us indefinitely. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
We've got quite a high retention rate here. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
Yeah, people don't like to leave us, do they? | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
The group are known for their distinctive vehicles. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
Driving the pink van today is Ruksar, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
a former low-level offender who has turned his life around and is now | 0:37:05 | 0:37:09 | |
working at Seagulls and benefiting from their Proceeds of Crime money. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:13 | |
I was in a resettlement prison, an open prison, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
so I was given the opportunity to improve my skill set, you know, | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
to gain... Well, you know, to get work. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
Part of that was going to college, which I learnt a trade, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
which was decorating, and I started volunteering at Seagulls. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:31 | |
That's a good one, mate. That's bad. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
It's good and it creates opportunity, | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
it creates sort of training. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:38 | |
If you want to change, it gives you that platform | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
and the opportunity to change. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
So this is our paint store. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
As you can see, a load of paint has come in. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
We've got volunteers and employees, they're all mixing the paint, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
so it comes in, it gets separated into type, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
and then it gets mixed up. | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
You get a blob of colour on the top and it goes on the shelves. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
Through their two shops, | 0:38:02 | 0:38:03 | |
Seagulls serve over 10,000 customers per year, | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
and with paint on sale for as little as £1.70 per litre, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:10 | |
it's affordable for everyone. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
It's a bit of a bargain, and everyone's really nice and friendly, | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
and everyone's helpful and they can mix colours that you want, and... | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
Yeah, it's really nice. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
-See you later. -Bye. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
The charity has also had a more obvious impact on the community | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
through the murals the volunteers have made on the streets, | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
and it was all helped along by the Proceeds of Crime Act. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:34 | |
There was a project to get people involved in volunteering, | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
and members of the local community to get involved with Seagulls | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
and to create something beautiful for the local area. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
We're all about helping people, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
be that someone who might well have got into trouble with the law, | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
be that someone with a mental health problem or a learning disability, | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
we try to make people from all different backgrounds work together | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
and create amazing projects like you see behind me, | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
and without the Proceeds of Crime money helping us do that, | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
we wouldn't be able to fulfil our aims | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
and work with as many people as we do. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
For Proceeds of Crime money to be spent on good causes, | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
an asset first has to be sold, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
and there's very high expectations for one top-of-the-range item | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
that's about to go under the hammer. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
Earlier on, we saw how these two drug dealers, | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
Mahboob Alam and Mohammad Aslam, were arrested by police. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:34 | |
Officers believed the dealers had made as much as £6 million | 0:39:34 | 0:39:38 | |
selling cocaine and heroin on the streets of Bradford. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
For their crime, the two men were sent to prison | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
for 17 years and seven years respectively, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
but the law didn't just stop at jailing them. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
West Yorkshire Asset Recovery Enforcement Team | 0:39:50 | 0:39:54 | |
looked into what property and goods the men had amassed. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
They discovered that one of the men owned a whole street of houses | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
in Bradford, all bought with profits from drug dealing. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
They forced him to sell off the entire street | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
and return the money to the public purse. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
And his fellow Bradford drug dealer, Mohammad Aslam, | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
was found to have this on his wrist, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
a £25,000 Rolex watch. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
The police seized it and have put it up for sale here. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
Group Asset Recovery Manager Aidan Larkin | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
is expecting a busy room. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:25 | |
People just like the fun of the fair and the sort of razzmatazz | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
of the auction, to see everything that's happening. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
And Aidan knows that this particular item | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
is one of the true heavyweights of the watch world. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
Particularly brands like Rolex there, | 0:40:36 | 0:40:37 | |
they have a worldwide following, so if you can take that watch, | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
whatever you pay for it, any country in the world, | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
you can still use that as a currency. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
You could go in and trade in that watch, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
be you in Hong Kong or London or New York, | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
it'll always have its value in any currency. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
But this watch stands out even amongst the Rolex brand. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:55 | |
Lot 83 is a Rolex Oyster. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
It's brand-new. It still has the original cellophane and plastic | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
around the watch, box, papers, it's in perfect condition. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
A watch like this, particularly in 18-carat rose gold, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
rose gold is very desirable | 0:41:07 | 0:41:08 | |
and it's the current fashion of a lot of watchmakers, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
so this watch will easily go past £10,000 at the auction. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
And that's good news, because the money made from the watch | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
will go back to the government to be spent on policing and good causes, | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
but what will it fetch? | 0:41:23 | 0:41:24 | |
Lot number 83, | 0:41:25 | 0:41:26 | |
the Rolex. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
There's one 18-carat rose gold case with a rose dial | 0:41:28 | 0:41:33 | |
and an 18-carat rose gold oyster bracelet. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
This is a very nice piece in for sale. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
Box and papers are supplied with the watch. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
Cost new of the watch was £25,100. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
I'm getting 8,000... | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
Straight away, the bidding has shot up | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
close to what the auctioneers were hoping for. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
£10,000, | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
bidding at ten, bidding at 10,000, £11,000 online. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
At 11,000. At 11,000, 12,000... | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
Now it's beaten their estimate. | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
£13,000, bidding at 13, bid online, 13,000. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:04 | |
14 online. 14,000. At £14,000, bidding in at 14, | 0:42:04 | 0:42:09 | |
bidding in at £14,000 all done. 14,000 and I sell online... | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
And 14,500 it is. 14,500. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
At 14,500, bidding in at 14,500. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
Bidding in at 14,500. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
At 14,500. Hammer's up, going once, | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
twice... | 0:42:23 | 0:42:24 | |
-14,500. -That's one happy buyer. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
He's just got a £24,000 watch still in its original packaging, | 0:42:27 | 0:42:32 | |
but sold to him for just over £14,000. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
And although the money to buy this watch the first time round | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
came from drug dealing, this time round, | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
the money will return to the public purse. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
Even when criminals are behind bars, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
they're still paying off their debt to society. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
And when they come out, if they haven't cleared that debt, | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
the police will continue to hunt down their ill-gotten gains. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:59 |