Episode 18 Neighbourhood Blues


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Neighbourhood policing has come a long way since the days of

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-Dixon Of Dock Green.

-Good evening, all.

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From inner-city estates to suburbia, this new

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generation of community police officers are on the front line.

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Their aim is to develop a stronger bond with the community,

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crack down on the crimes taking place on your doorstep

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and formulate fast-action plans to take down the criminals.

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-I said no.

-I said yes.

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In this series of Neighbourhood Blues,

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we go to the Humberside police region

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and get exclusive access to 12 teams of neighbourhood police officers

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as they tackle the problems blighting local people...

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-No, I don't care.

-Hey, hey!

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..and rise to the challenge of making the streets a safer place.

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Coming up...

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As darkness falls, Cleethorpes' May Day bank holiday celebrations

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take a turn for the worse...

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SHOUTING

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..a falling-out over the garden fence sees these two warring

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neighbours go to court...

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There's a pile of wood here. He just bulldozed it down.

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-That is not on the deeds. It's a no-brainer.

-Right.

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..and could these pint-sized Sherlocks

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really have witnessed a kidnapping?

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Do you know the difference between the truth and lies?

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All across Humberside, neighbourhood police teams take

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time out from regular police work to engage with the public.

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The aim is not only to give policing a friendlier face,

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but to also provide people with information about the causes

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of crime and how to limit the chances of becoming a victim of it.

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And it's an approach that has paid dividends.

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In the olden days, you wouldn't have expected the police to get

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involved in a dispute between neighbours,

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but things have changed

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and the neighbourhood teams have become well versed at mediating

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when a slanging match develops across the garden fence.

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Today, over in Bridlington, PC Nikki Cammis is en route to meet

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a pair of neighbours who are at loggerheads.

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A track that acts as a right of way to several properties,

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including theirs, is also lined by a hedgerow and a fence.

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The two men have fallen out about who can use the right of way

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and exactly where the dividing line between their properties is.

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So, trees, I've dealt with those sort of issues before.

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I know a little bit about trees. Boundary lines... Way over my head.

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The dispute has been going on for over two years.

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-Hello.

-Hiya.

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-Your dad is back, isn't he?

-Yes. He's just up there.

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-I'll go and fetch him.

-Thanks.

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It relates to an access road

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and the boundary line between the properties.

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Despite trying to resolve it through mediation, both parties

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believe they are in the right

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and the case is now going to court tomorrow.

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Nikki is paying them a visit to see how they are bearing up.

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I have come today from the neighbourhood team

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in Bridlington to discuss with you the issue that you

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have at the moment with your neighbours.

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What I would like to know is, we now know the decision's coming

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tomorrow, about time, I know you're confident you're going to win.

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If you do happen to lose, what's going to be the consequence of that?

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It's difficult to say how I can lose

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because I've got the original certified documents,

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the measurements add up to the boundary line.

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Nothing that Mr Rhodes has got provides any...

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The onus of proof is on him, because he's the claimant.

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But he hasn't got any evidence.

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He's jumped on a letter that's not a legally binding document.

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And if the judge accepts the letter that he's built his case round,

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-he actually loses land. He doesn't gain it.

-Right. If you lose...?

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If I lose, then I'll get a substantial legal bill to pay

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-because obviously they are going to want their costs paid.

-Right.

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If I win, then it will stay as it is and it will be a garden

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because that's all it is.

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As tensions between the homes have escalated, both have taken to

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installing CCTV cameras to monitor activity over the right of way

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and boundary line which is in dispute.

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But this brings with it a whole new set of legal problems

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surrounding the issue of privacy.

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-Obviously you've got two new cameras up on your building.

-Yes.

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Again, they want to know where your cameras are facing, to offer reassurance...

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I said I would offer them reassurance that they don't go onto their land.

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-Camera can't go onto their land.

-His camera goes onto my land.

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That's what the officer had been to see them about.

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Yes, but it does. It points directly onto my road.

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It's onto... Well, it's very similar...

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It shows a garage there and it shows my road there.

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But...

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I know you're saying it's your road, but to them they have right of access...

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-No.

-I know you believe that.

-No, it isn't. It's not on the deeds.

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-I've got the documents. It's a no-brainer.

-Right.

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I know for you, but until it is decided tomorrow...

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-Until it is decided tomorrow...

-..they think differently.

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You all right, Martin?

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With Mr Walker left to ponder about the legalities of his CCTV set-up,

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Nikki heads next door to pay the other neighbour, Mr Rhodes, a visit.

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You are very confident you're going to win

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and, believe you me, when I spoke to him,

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he's not even thinking about losing.

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It's not even an option in his mind.

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All I can reiterate to you is, please don't take any matters

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into your own hands and just think, a better person walks away,

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otherwise you're going to walk yourself straight into some trouble.

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It's clearly taking a strain on both parties,

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who are convinced of their own right to access the driveway

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and manipulate the boundary line as they see fit.

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He has bought the plot of land. Since he's moved in two years ago,

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it's been one thing after another.

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There was a nice full hedge. He's hacked it right back.

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This is my fence that he knocked down.

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It was fenced off all the way down here.

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His pal, he just bulldozed it down. And I think there was about

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six of them altogether came one day and just bulldozed it down.

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These are the trees that he's chopped down.

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One there, one there, they're just stumps now.

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It's a shared access lane and he's just blocked it all.

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Mr Rhodes believes that the fallout from the dispute over the

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right of way in particular is also affecting other homes in the area.

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Anybody that comes up here, they've been abused by him.

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I haven't been able to use it for the last year or two

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because he would scare you.

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Neighbourhood disputes often begin over minor misunderstandings,

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but this one has escalated to a point where only

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a court of law can bring any closure to the two men who are both

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adamant that they are in the right.

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When we first came, the hedge came out to beyond my car

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right at the bottom.

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If you look at that, there's no growth at this side whatsoever.

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So he tried to simulate that the centre of the hedge was further over

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than what it actually was, but I've pipped him at the post

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by cutting the hedge back. That's when he started...

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That's when the argument first started and I said

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I'm quite within my right to chop down my side of the boundary hedge.

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As is often the case with neighbourhood disputes,

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the initial problem can lead to a larger falling out

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and further accusations being made.

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If we pass each other at the bottom, he'll pull up

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and just stare at the wife, or stare at me, and anybody that is

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coming to the house. He's just sat glaring at you, intimidating you.

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The day that we put this fence up,

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that night she turned her lights off, he turned his off,

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it were all...

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When he was grinning at me, he was taking pictures, so I waved at him.

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And the next day, police came up, he told them that I'd stuck two fingers

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up at him and shouting and bawling at him.

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There were these two or three almighty bangs and it were him.

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With emotions running this high, the neighbourhood team

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are keen for this neighbourhood dispute to be brought to

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a swift end that can enable both parties to move on from this

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unfortunate set of incidents that have blighted them.

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Both men remain in a confident mood.

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There is no way round it.

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It's written in the deeds

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and that's where the saying comes from, "in deed".

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-So, 11 o'clock tomorrow, hopefully.

-See you later.

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For Nikki, the court ruling will at last provide a clear

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focus for the police, should any further falling out arise.

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It's a nightmare. It's a nightmare. It's a headache. It's a nightmare.

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And I don't know who the land belongs to, either,

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but once that's decided by the judge

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then I'll be able to manage it better

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because it will be a case of, "It's not your land,

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"now get on with it, get on with your lives."

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Find out later which man wins this battle of the boundary line.

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It's the May Day bank holiday, and the seaside towns of Grimsby

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and Cleethorpes have seen the pubs packed out with revellers

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looking to make the most of the extended weekend.

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We love Cleethorpes.

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A team of 20 neighbourhood officers are out on patrol to ensure

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any merriment is kept in check.

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Got to go. Got to go. That's the state of play

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in Cleethorpes at the moment - busy but jovial.

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But as last orders are being called,

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the boys in blue know that as revellers spill out

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onto the streets, so too can trouble.

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Spirits are running high,

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and Simon and the team are happy to show their support to the public,

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who are enjoying themselves.

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I know I'm getting old now because I don't like this music any more.

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Put a bit of Bruce Springsteen on or something like that.

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Whilst most are intent on having a good time, there's one

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group of lads looking for trouble, and Simon is first on the scene.

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SHOUTING

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There appears to have been an altercation between two men,

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so the officers separate them to find out what happened.

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Off we go.

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SHOUTING

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-What's going on?

-I was upstairs and some guy...

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And it's not just the lads who are in hot water.

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Oi!

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You're going to get yourself locked up if you don't disappear now...

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or you'll get yourself locked up.

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-I have

-BLEEP...

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It's a case of handbags at midnight.

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I've left my jacket on the top floor - that's all I'm after.

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Well, there's no need to do that, or you get yourself locked up,

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-do you understand?

-Simon tries to calm the situation.

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He asks security staff exactly who was involved in the drunken ruckus.

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Who's done what? Or do we just want rid of them?

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Just get rid of them, yeah.

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-No-one's made any complaints?

-We just want rid.

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So who is it? There's that kid there and his missus, they need to go.

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-What about...? Is this kid...?

-Yeah.

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The hope is everyone can be sent home with

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a Section 27 dispersal order, instead of to the cells.

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But just as this situation is contained,

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another reaches flashpoint just down the road,

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meaning Simon is on the move again.

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SHOUTING

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It's another brawl,

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but this time the suspect isn't going down without a fight.

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The man is wrestled to the ground, as the team around him

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try to find out what happened.

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SHOUTING

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You're under arrest, all right?

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What's the score with this kid, here?

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-He had to be dragged out by about six bouncers.

-For nothing.

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I was trying to get a drink.

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A moment later, another lad, who is bleeding badly,

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staggers out onto the pavement

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and the police can see he came off worse for wear in this scrap.

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The boy needs an ambulance.

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Whereabouts have you just come from?

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As officers provide on-the-spot medical assistance

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waiting for the paramedics to arrive,

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the suspect is questioned.

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I tried to calm it down all night, tried to calm it down.

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And then he come up to me, barged me in the back,

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so I grabbed hold of him and said, "Who you barging?"

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He threw three punches at me before I retaliated.

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He threw three punches at me and then,

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as soon as he threw the third punch,

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I retaliated, and that's when the bouncer grabbed hold of me.

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Which you...

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And if you check on the CCTV, you'll see exactly what happened.

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Mate, just put your hands behind your back.

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Oh, I'm getting arrested.

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At the end of the day, that's what we're here to find out -

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what the truth is. Somebody said that's he's assaulted somebody,

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so that's why he's under arrest.

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-You're going to arrest him?

-Yes.

-For the night?

-Yes.

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Despite his partner's protests, the man is arrested

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and taken into custody.

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But hang on a minute.

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Let's have a quick replay of the start of the ruckus.

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Look at the footage again. No, you're not seeing double.

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It's a classic case of mistaken identity.

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Remember the lad who was originally arrested?

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Well, look, he's got the same haircut

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and wearing a similar T-shirt to the suspect who's just been

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bundled into the police van.

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Right, what's this kid done?

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To be honest, I think he's a witness.

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-I've done nothing.

-At the moment...

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I've locked up the other kid in the white T-shirt, who's quite muscly,

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and I think he's the one who's slotted...

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He said he slotted him.

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He said that the guy we've got?

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-So we're getting his details as a witness.

-Yes.

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This lad is completely innocent and let go on the spot without

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change, and turns from suspect to a valuable witness.

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The victim's gone off to hospital.

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He looks like he's got quite nasty facial injuries,

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and we're just going to book them in

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for that at the police station now.

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It's been a night of mash-ups and lock-ups for the team.

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But as they do one last sweep of the streets,

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there's one more local they need to deal with.

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Hold on, guys. Can one of you just pop out

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and check this guy that's laid on the floor?

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Yeah, just jump out for us. He's laid on the pavement there, look.

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Hopefully, he's just drunk and having a sleep.

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You all right, mate?

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You all right?

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What's your name?

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What you doing on the floor?

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Have you? You can't lay down here, can you?

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You going to get up? Get up. Let's have a go.

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Going to stop at my sister's tonight.

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-You're comfortable walking, yeah?

-I think so.

-You sure?

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-Got to go...

-Flag a taxi down.

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You can't lay on the floor, though.

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I can't. I've got about three quid on me.

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Right. Well, we're not a taxi service, are we?

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-I know you're not, but... Did me best.

-If you come out,

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you've got to make sure you save enough money to get home.

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Don't lay out on the floor cos someone will run over you

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when they pull up, won't they? All right?

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-Take care of yourself.

-See you later.

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He's on his way, he looks more stable,

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and I'm sure he'll get home safe. There you go.

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Oh, I'm getting arrested.

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The man pleaded guilty to causing grievous bodily harm

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to the victim, and was sentenced to two years and one month

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behind bars.

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As people start living in more densely populated areas,

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the police find themselves dealing with an increased number of complaints.

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Some of these problems arise when neighbours fail to get along

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and find themselves in a dispute that only the law can now resolve.

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Over in Bridlington, PC Nikki Cammis has been involved with two

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neighbours who have literally had a falling out over the garden fence.

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It's difficult to say how I can lose.

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A dispute over a boundary line

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and a right of way has lasted over two years

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and has generated numerous headaches for the parties involved.

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He's bought the plot of land. Since he moved in two years ago,

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it's been one thing after another.

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Mr Rhodes and Mr Walker.

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Despite the police trying to mediate between the two men,

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the case has now ended up in court.

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But will the judge fall on the side of Mr Rhodes or Mr Walker?

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We're about to find out.

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Won on all accounts.

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Mr Rhodes' thumbs-up says it all...

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and his relief is evident.

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Well, I'm very pleased with how it all went,

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and Mr Walker was shown, once again, what sort of person he is.

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Mr Walker is understandably downbeat at the ruling

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and at the expensive legal costs he will now face.

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And I think, well, really, the judge has ignored all the major things

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and he's just given 1½ foot of our land away.

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Mr Rhodes has an emotional statement to make.

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I'd like to thank my family and friends...

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HE SOBS

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..and my solicitors for their help and support they have given me.

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And for the police, as of late, they've been a great support.

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And...I'd just like to go and get a cup of tea.

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LAUGHTER

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For a neighbourhood dispute to end up in a costly court visit is

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never in the interests of anyone involved,

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which is why the neighbourhood police teams always try to

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resolve any falling out through mediation.

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Mr Rhodes won the case.

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The boundary between the properties was clearly defined.

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Mr Walker must pay £7,115 for reinstatement of land,

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losses and interference.

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He was also ordered to pay legal costs.

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So-called legal highs have been making headlines.

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Many of these lab-manufactured powders aim to simulate

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the effect of drugs such as ecstasy.

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Whilst they may not be banned,

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many of these uncontrolled substances are toxic.

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Legal highs are a big problem, not just in our city,

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throughout the country.

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And one of the big challenges with dealing with them

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is that their composition can be altered chemically

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ever so slightly, and what happens is that governments are always playing

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catch-up if they try and actually classify them as illegal.

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So people can get round that.

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And the use of them to get a quick fix can be devastating.

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Today, in Hull city centre, a man has been spotted banging his head

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repeatedly in a telephone box.

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PCSO John Hamilton is concerned that drugs may be involved.

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What is that on there?

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-What's this?

-It's a legal high.

-It's a legal high, is it?

-Yes.

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Right, leave that there for now. Don't touch anything more.

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Just come out of the telephone box for me.

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So, that stuff in there, you say it's a legal high, is it?

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-Yeah.

-What is it?

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What's it called?

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HE MUMBLES

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-You what?

-Zappy.

-Zappy?

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Where did you buy that from?

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Can you remember?

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The man suddenly becomes totally unresponsive.

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John radios in the situation.

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There is white powder all set out with stuff for snorting.

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I feel...

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I feel like a... I feel like a supernatural being.

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When the man does speak he is garbled and disorientated.

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-It's the drugs that are talking.

-Is it?

-Yes.

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I can't believe I'm... I can't believe I'm still standing.

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I don't think I can get higher than this because I am

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so high I could go out for ever.

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HIS SPEECH SLOWS AND SLURS

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I feel like a supernatural being. I'm feel like I'm dead.

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My colleagues have just turned up now

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and they will have a quick word with you as well.

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John is waiting for backup to deal with the situation.

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You've got some legal highs with you, or something, have you?

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The man surrenders the substances to the police.

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The police decide to take him home to prevent him

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becoming a danger to himself.

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You can't stay here taking them

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because people are going to continue to ring us, aren't they?

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It's going to continue to make you do strange things.

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Fortunately, on this occasion, there were no serious consequences,

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but anyone taking legal highs is playing a risky roulette game

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whose outcome can be fatal.

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A lot of these legal highs are designed to be plant food,

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fertilisers, scents to be burnt, but people take them,

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which makes them do unusual, strange things, and it is very dangerous.

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The man was offered some help

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and support services to deal with his problem.

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It's been a quiet day for the team

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until a 999 call comes through from worried witnesses,

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concerned they've glimpsed a potential kidnapping in process.

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Nikki Cammis is the first officer on the scene,

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but she gets a surprise when she sees the witnesses.

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There's a woman in the front and she had taped hands.

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-How old was the woman?

-Maybe late 30s.

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What did she look like?

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-She had dark hair.

-Dark brown.

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Like your colour hair.

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They're describing...

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Nikki phones in the suspect's details

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to avoid losing precious time.

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This van's passed them towards B&Q and the vehicle's passed them

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in the opposite direction.

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So they were heading that way, out of town?

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They were going over the B&Q bridge, so I presume...

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THEY TALK OVER EACH OTHER

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A potential breakthrough's on the cards

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when it appears the young lad recognises the van.

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-And then...

-THEY TALK OVER EACH OTHER

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But is this clue too good to be true?

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-You're confident?

-I'm certain it was him.

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One of these kids is saying that they recognise this van.

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The station sergeant wonders if the kids are winding the police up.

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Should their story be taken with a pinch of salt?

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Or is there a grain of truth to it? Nikki presses harder.

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Why do you think it's a woman who lives near you?

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Cos it was the same...

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Undaunted, the lad sticks to his guns.

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-He is convinced about what he saw.

-I've seen that person as well.

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Nikki's now increasingly confident that this lad's no Pinocchio.

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-You can go home now.

-Are we all right?

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Basically, we've had a call from the kids that we've just seen,

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stating that as they've been walking over that hill,

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a little blue van's gone past them

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and inside they've seen a young female, mid-30s,

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that's been tied up with tape across the mouth,

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and the male driver shouting at her.

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Erm... One of the kids thinks it's a vehicle he recognises that

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lives on his local street, so we're heading there now.

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Two other police units have been dispatched

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and have already recced the situation. Nobody's home.

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The blue van is parked and nothing seems amiss,

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but it turns out there is a second blue van registered to the suspect.

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1-5, I'm sat outside and there is a blue vehicle on the drive

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matching the description.

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However, the other patrol that tried to get in is wanting to tell you

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that this vehicle is cold,

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and then a neighbour's told us that he's got two blue vehicles.

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The one we think we're looking for is not here.

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Nikki calls the children back to test their story again.

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You said you saw her hands, but she was obviously in the vehicle

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and you were walking, so how did you see her hands?

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How were you able to see her hands?

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Where are you now?

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And I'm coming back to speak to you.

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Wait there for me, I'm coming. Bye.

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Nikki is hoping that, by talking to the children again,

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she may get to the bottom of this mystery.

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It's not really a case about getting more details -

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it's more about clarifying some points with them...

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that the sergeant wants clarifying.

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The sergeant has doubts or...

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We have to suppose every avenue, I suppose.

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And one of these avenues is, are these children lying

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and have they made it up?

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But despite being given a tough line of questioning by Nikki...

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Do you know the difference between truth and lies?

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..they will not change their story.

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If I said there was an elephant in that parking space behind me,

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-what would I have just done? ALL:

-Lied.

-Yeah.

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And what do you think happens when people lie?

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Why do you think people lie?

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-Yeah?

-For attention.

-Sometimes, yeah.

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OK.

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So it's really important, then, that you tell me the truth.

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We are telling the truth. I swear.

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Either's there a major incident happening

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or a hoax is now causing mayhem.

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Either way, it's a serious matter.

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We were all thinking it might be for a joke,

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but if that's a joke, it's a really sick joke to pull.

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But from my point of view, a vehicle's passing you,

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takes a couple of seconds to pass. From what you're telling me,

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you've seen a lot of stuff in that couple of seconds,

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-which is fine if that's what you've seen.

-She just...

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There's no camouflaging the children's distress,

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and their story seems watertight.

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We just saw her taped up, panicking really badly...

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-And him shouting.

-Like, that's... That's the basic...

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That's what we saw.

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I've honestly got four upset kids here.

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I get you've seen the other side, but they really are upset.

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Then a call comes through.

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Other officers have finally spoken to the van owner.

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Guys, listen, I'm so sorry you've had to experience this,

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but the officers have spoken to the people in the van

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and they're saying it was a practical joke.

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She tied him to the steering wheel or something earlier on...

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It's not funny, darling,

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and I'm going to go back up and speak with them,

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and explain just how upset you actually are.

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Cos the officers that have spoken with them didn't realise...

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-So it was the right person?

-Yeah. Yeah, it was right, darling.

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Not surprisingly, the comedy is lost on Nikki and the children.

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I'm going to go back up now and tell them off,

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and explain to them just... I expect better from adults.

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I know, but everybody would have seen it and stuff, so I don't...

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And please don't think that I was doubting you,

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but it's my job to doubt people.

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And you did the right thing to ring it in, all right?

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And, unfortunately, there is stupid adults around

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that haven't got anything better to do.

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-That all right, everyone? See you later.

-Bye.

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The children may be vindicated,

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but Nikki's not finished with the matter.

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She's got the pranksters in her sights now.

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Hiya, it's just the police.

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Can I ask if we can have a quick chat

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-about what's just happened?

-Yeah.

-Thank you.

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They're clearly a pair of jokers - that's the only way to put it.

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They're just a pair of jokers and they still see the funny side.

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And as much as she's also got a ten-year-old herself

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and she understands how children may have perceived the incident,

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she thinks that people should be allowed to have a laugh,

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and that's fine. But it's not every day you go

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and pass somebody that's got masking tape around their mouth.

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We're going to deal with this cos they caused them genuine fear...

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for no need at all. Just for the... For their own fun.

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The children involved in reporting the suspected kidnapping

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were congratulated by the police for their clear and concise

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approach to describing what could have been a serious crime.

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