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An estimated one in six people in Britain live in social housing.

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And in the current economic climate, the waiting lists are growing every week.

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For every person you make happy,

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there's probably going to be three or four times as many who are disappointed.

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-Britain's housing officers are on the front line.

-Janette, can you let me in?

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It's just like nothing like you've ever smelt before.

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They deal with over 11 million tenants day in, day out.

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-I don't believe you've let him out!

-Most are good tenants.

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But a few risk everything with their antisocial behaviour.

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His tenancy is on a knife-edge.

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If they want to try and take it, they'll have to take it with me on it.

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Eviction is the last thing that we want to do.

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And we've got to do it for the sake of the community.

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Every week there's a different set of problems.

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The information this morning from the caretaker

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was that he hasn't been seen for around four weeks.

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It's the first dead body I've had, so an insight for me as well, really.

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They've been in such distress from race hate abuse

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and screaming obscenities at them.

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It's clearly targeting that garden.

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It just seems to be growing,

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the amount of tubs that we've got in the kitchen.

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It's like a Japanese concept to achieve a Zen atmosphere, Zen effect.

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In another six months, it's going to be up to the window sills.

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27-year-old Cat Towl has only been a housing officer for two years.

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She looks after nearly 1,000 properties in Salford, west of Manchester.

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And most of them are flats.

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Cat's been called out to an emergency in one of her high-rise blocks,

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where over half the residents live on their own.

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-Hello, Catherine from City West, hi.

-Hi, I'm Rob, this is Phil, my partner.

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-Who have you received the call from this morning?

-We're from the Coroner's Service.

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OK, if we head up to the sixth then and I can let you know...

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what's gone on this morning.

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I received a call from the caretaker, um, to advise that there was a smell coming from um,

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one of the floors in the high rise,

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and the police have put the door through and advised us that they have, er, recovered a dead body.

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It's been confirmed by paramedics,

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so I presume the cause now comes to yourselves.

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Yes, to effect a removal.

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It's the first dead body I've had, so an insight for me as well, really.

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LIFT: 'Mind the doors.'

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-The information that we got is that we're going to need extra men.

-Right.

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We've no idea what we're going to find, until we get there...

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-What would, what would that suggest?

-It could be a large person. It could be decomposed.

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-Yeah.

-It could be breaking up,

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so there could be quite a lot of issues we may have to deal with.

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They did advise me that they felt that the body had been in there for a number of weeks

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and was very badly decomposed. Is that why you need more people to help you to remove the body?

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It may be, it may be, but maybe not. It depends, cos we just act on the scant information.

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And we can't tell what we need till we get on site and do our own risk assessment.

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OK, I think I'll wait here and I'll catch up with you.

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-Thank you.

-I'll get you some feedback later.

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He's badly decomposed.

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So he's got to go into a body bag

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and then he has to go into another bag,

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so we can actually manage him down to our ambulance,

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-and then take him from there.

-OK.

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So we've just got to go in there and put disaster suits on.

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-So you'll be in all white...

-Disposable suit, yeah.

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Yeah, just like you see on the TV.

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All Cat knows at the moment is that the flat was rented by a man

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called John Leigh.

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And that he is probably the deceased.

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Before I came out to the flat, I did a background check on our systems in the office.

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He's been a tenant with us since 1988, um,

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and I checked the date of birth just to see

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if that could help with identifying the body.

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Um, the gentleman's 65 years old, um, I'd imagine that's why CID come out

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and do the investigations and make sure there's nothing untoward.

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I don't know what it smells like. It's just like nothing like you've ever smelt before.

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I'm not particularly looking forward to going into the property

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once the police have handed back to us.

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I'm sure you can see some of the flies that have filled the communal areas now the doors are open.

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-So you're going to follow us?

-Yeah.

-We'll just close the flat up then?

-Yeah.

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It's been four weeks since Mr Leigh was last seen.

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And one of Cat's first jobs will be to try and find any relatives.

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Obviously with it being the first death that I've come across, it's quite upsetting.

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One of the things that's upsetting me is that

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somebody's lived so closely to other people, living in high rise, um,

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it is shared, it is communal living and it's thrown me, I think,

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to realise that these people still live very private and separate lives.

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It makes me wonder what I would be like with my neighbours

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if I thought I hadn't seen my neighbour for four weeks.

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I don't know whether I would just ignore that.

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Whether they're housed in a high-rise flat,

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a maisonette or a family home,

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those that make it to the top of the social housing list

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rarely get to choose their neighbours.

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On a pre-war estate west of Manchester,

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one new family from Poland are having problems being accepted.

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For the last two months,

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they've been the victims of a hate campaign by a gang of local youths.

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This is the second time the family have been victimised.

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Jill Swann-Hunter is their housing officer.

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She took on their case after they were moved off their last estate.

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They subjected them to a horrific and quite long attack -

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both physically and mentally.

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They...they threw lit paper through the letterbox.

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They er, taunted them, they threw eggs at the house.

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They, er, surrounded the car with our Polish father in,

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and threw bottles at it, taunting him, of the nature, "I'm going to kill you."

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The family were forced to flee in the middle of the night

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and were re-housed in a new area.

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Dad Tomas had hoped this move would be a new start.

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But with new attacks starting up, he has gone to the extraordinary measure

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of installing six of his own CCTV cameras.

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Because they're very dangerous situation,

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four camera on the front and the two cameras on the back.

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Now I'm seeing everything, now I'm recording everything.

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This new spate of attacks are particularly worrying.

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It's exhibiting the symptoms of what happened last time.

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We have to look at it immediately with the attitude

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of zero tolerance to these actions.

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To nip them in the bud and ensure that the family

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are able to continue their lives without fear.

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-Hello. Eva. Can we come in?

-Yes, of course.

-Thank you.

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You're welcome.

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-Are we in here today?

-Hi.

-Hi, Tomas, OK?

-Yeah, all right.

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OK, well, I've e-mailed the police.

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-Yeah.

-I'm just waiting for them to get back to me.

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Obviously you do have the fireworks coming in,

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you've had quite a few incidences, haven't you,

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where the fireworks have come in via the front and also your back garden.

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So you think that they feel that they are doing it because you can't retaliate.

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-Attack.

-What's she's sure about.

-Yeah.

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-And they think they can do anything cos they know they're not going to get done for that.

-Yeah.

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The problem, as you both are aware, is that your CCTV cameras

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have picked up who they are,

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but it's in the dark and they have hoods on.

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-Yeah, that's why.

-So positive identification is very difficult.

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Um, do you think that it is deliberately targeting

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the family because you aren't from England?

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-Yeah.

-Right, OK.

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It's terrible that people still...

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We're not ready to move again, we don't want to

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cos we're not going to run away for ages, all our lives.

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We just want to, to sit down and have a normal life.

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More than 20,000 over-65-year-olds

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die alone in England every year.

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It's an issue housing associations can't ignore.

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It's been two weeks since John Leigh's body was discovered.

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The purpose of today is to look at what actually happened

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and is there any way in which we could have noticed that that he'd died earlier.

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So far, the housing association haven't found a next of kin.

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And today they are carrying out an internal investigation.

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So currently what we've got is in January, that was the last known contact on the 19th.

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So is there anything else that happened?

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Yeah, then between the week beginning the 24th October

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and ending the 28th, um,

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CCTV was installed

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which would have meant the caretaker was allowed access.

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So was he on our list of priority customers to visit for current tenancy visits, then?

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-Was he identified?

-Yes,

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um, he is one that hasn't yet had the access.

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-But we'd attempted visits, presumably.

-Yes.

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Is there anything else that we need to put as an action?

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I think that we need to be looking to encourage neighbours or

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staff or anyone who thinks something is unusual to be advising us.

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And if we recognise that we've not managed to contact someone

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through that whole chain of formal processes,

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the chances are they're vulnerable, they require support and they haven't got it.

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It's an opportunity to see whether there was something that we missed,

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whether anything should have been picked up.

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Well, thank you very much, everybody. Thank you, really appreciate your input.

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It's also important towards ensuring that things like this don't happen

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and there is always a degree of contact with our customers,

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particularly the ones that are vulnerable and the ones that live alone.

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When somebody rents a home from us,

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it is their home, they're free to come and go as they will.

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We want to engage with our customers and want them

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to be involved with us.

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But it's up to them whether they choose to do that or not.

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And for us, it's a balancing act between

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engaging with our customers and making sure that they are safe,

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and invading their privacy.

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Mum of two Sarah Chilton has been a housing officer for the last 11 years

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in one of Greater Manchester's biggest housing associations.

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She looks after over 300 homes in the remote rural area of Mossley.

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She's been called out to one of her estates to investigate

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a suspected case of fraudulent activity.

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We're going to a property where we received reports that

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the tenant wasn't living at the property any more, and was possibly living in Manchester.

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We have to go and check that the property is still furnished

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and there is evidence to suggest that he is still living there.

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Some people will use the property um, for benefit purposes, um,

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and claim from that property.

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Um, and then just not live there.

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Sarah and her assistant Matthew have arranged to visit the tenant.

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Hello. You all right?

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The reason that I've had to come today

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is because, um, we got reports that you wasn't living at this property, OK...

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and that you was living somewhere in Manchester. Are you staying with friends or anything?

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Er, because it's easier to get... jobs near the city.

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Right, that's fine. Are you working at the moment?

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Um...

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No more.

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So, obviously there's no furniture.

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There's no belongings as such, here, is there?

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If you know what I mean - it's all rubbish, in't it, really?

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Er...

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Do you mind if I just have a quick look in the kitchen?

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Yeah, have you not got a fridge?

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Um, not yet.

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What do you do to store your food items in?

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Er, normally...er, I eat out.

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You eat out a lot? And you've got your microwave.

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-Yeah.

-All right, OK. Um, right.

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Of course the rubbish thing, you know...

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Right, the rubbish is easily dealt with.

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Are you not having your heating on at all?

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Um, not for the moment.

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-So you've capped your gas meter off?

-Yes.

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Is this to keep your feet dry, these bags on your feet?

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-Sort of like a...

-A waterproof thing?

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-Yeah.

-Yeah, OK. Thanks.

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-Is this your bed?

-Er, yeah.

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So where's, like, your bedding and things that you use to keep warm,

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where's your bedding and your duvet and things like that?

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-Er, blankets there, but er, I just...

-Well, they're still in the wrappers.

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What are you using to keep warm at night when you sleep here?

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That's all - just the blanket and...

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-The lack of furniture...

-Yeah.

-And the way that you're living...

-Yeah.

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..Indicates to me that you may not be staying here on a permanent basis.

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Um, I am staying here.

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I'm a bit concerned if you are staying here in these conditions.

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You've got no heating to keep you warm at night,

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so it can't be very pleasant staying here in these conditions...

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-Uh-huh.

-..for you.

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-I think what we're going to have to do...

-Yeah.

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-..is come and see you on a regular basis.

-All right.

-OK.

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I wasn't expecting to find this, to be honest, when I got here.

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As part of your tenancy conditions,

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it's not acceptable to keep your property in this condition, OK?

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-Definite.

-So you, you're in breach of your tenancy

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by allowing it to accumulate this much rubbish in your property, OK?

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It's a bit of a can of worms for me

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now it's a bit half and half when he's living there

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and the flat's full of rubbish. So, I don't know at this stage, really.

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It's, it's a difficult one to call on this one.

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It's been two months since John Leigh's body was discovered.

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But despite efforts from Cat, the police and the Coroner,

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there's still no sign of any relatives.

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I'm on my way to Cawdor House,

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the keys have just been received in our office,

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been released from the police.

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It's my first opportunity for myself to go into the property.

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So perhaps we might be able to, you know, discover any items

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that are in there that may lead us to a next of kin.

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Mr Leigh's tenancy will be officially ended in 28 days' time.

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If no family members are found before then,

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the property will be cleared out and his belongings will be disposed of.

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There's obviously a lot of what appear to be records, vinyls.

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Books,

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paintings.

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A retiring card that's out on the table...

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perhaps suggests that it's a recent retirement, really.

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Um, I don't honestly know,

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but it doesn't appear to be in the same condition as some of the belongings,

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in the property. Whether or not he's been having a look at it recently

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is something that's quite sad, really.

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There are lots of concerns and issues that I feel

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I would have been able to maybe help with

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or make a bit of a difference about if I'd have known.

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I think it's always going to be something hard to deal with,

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and everybody deals with it differently.

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But it's not one of those deaths where family come in

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and the family have notified and the family are there

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and they can do the clear-out.

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This is me and the police trying to work out as much as we can do.

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You can see that there's somebody who's into so many different things -

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reading and music and radios, and that would have been the character

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that the family would have been able to tell me about.

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And I find that sad, as well.

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With no clues to any relatives at his flat,

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Cat is going back over the archives.

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Our systems hold a certain amount of information and when we sign up

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our properties, we do get as much information as we can.

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However, there's no next of kin unfortunately,

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no contact number that we can use

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to try and get in contact with a family member.

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The records show very little contact between John

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and the housing association.

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Her only lead is the retirement card. So Cat is also searching

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for any information about an employer.

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It goes all the way back to 1987.

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All of the paperwork that we hold.

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Looking through the documentation we've got from when he signed up

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for the tenancy, unfortunately there's nothing on here

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to say who his employer was.

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But it's always good to just use that as, as I say,

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another route to try and get next of kin details or to get in contact

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with somebody that knew him. But there's nothing on there.

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Jill has received footage from the Polish family's CCTV cameras.

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And she needs to find out if it matches their statements.

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I can marry up the times of her statement

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with what we've got on here.

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Can just about see now that children are walking across the road,

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but they're not doing anything wrong at this stage,

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so I just wanted to see if they are the same ones

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that occur later on in the tape, actually throwing the fireworks.

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There's five there.

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They're not very identifiable because of the hoods,

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which is where the police have had the problem doing anything about it.

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Because they're not very clear.

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7:10.

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Oh, there you go.

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Three youths standing on the canal bank.

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We've also heard from another neighbour

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that named one of the boys that is regularly seen doing that

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down the back of the canal, so we have a name.

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It's clearly targeting that particular garden.

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The CCTV evidence will be sent to the police

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to help confirm the identity of the boys.

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But while CCTV is helping the investigation,

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the cameras are causing tension in the street.

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Directly across the road is neighbour, Debbie.

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You know, it is a little bit much.

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The cameras look like they're pointing in.

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Would you mind if I showed you?

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Bearing in mind I only got the blinds up yesterday.

0:22:310:22:35

I don't know if you can see.

0:22:390:22:42

I mean you've got that that's definitely pointing here.

0:22:420:22:44

And there, under the front door.

0:22:440:22:46

That's not in their garden, that's right over here.

0:22:460:22:49

It feels like you're living in a goldfish bowl. As soon as you walk out the house,

0:22:490:22:53

it really, really does my head in, it does. I just felt like, God, me head's going,

0:22:530:22:58

so I thought, "Is it me, can they see?"

0:22:580:23:01

Anyway, um, so I went and I borrowed these off, er,

0:23:010:23:07

off Sammy Fisher from Budget.

0:23:070:23:09

And then I gets a letter,

0:23:090:23:12

"I've received notification

0:23:120:23:13

"you are viewing your neighbour's property with binoculars.

0:23:130:23:16

"Your actions however are invasion of privacy

0:23:160:23:20

"and I would like to speak to you about it."

0:23:200:23:23

Invasion of privacy, with that lot going on(!)

0:23:230:23:27

It's estimated that tenancy fraud in social housing

0:23:320:23:36

costs the Government around £900 million every year.

0:23:360:23:40

Housing officer Sarah has been investigating whether her tenant,

0:23:400:23:44

Steven, has been fraudulently using his tenancy.

0:23:440:23:48

He hasn't got the usual things that somebody would have, you know -

0:23:480:23:52

fridge, cooker, bed - but there is evidence to suggest

0:23:520:23:56

that he's living at the property. He's got food there, he's got,

0:23:560:23:59

well, could well be a sort of camping-style bed,

0:23:590:24:01

but he's got somewhere to sleep and belongings at the property.

0:24:010:24:04

And since we visited, we've then been notified

0:24:040:24:08

that his benefit is being claimed at the right address.

0:24:080:24:12

So we, we have to kind of accept that he is living there.

0:24:120:24:15

There's not much more we can do to prove otherwise, really.

0:24:150:24:19

Steven was a teacher in Malaysia.

0:24:240:24:27

He came to Britain looking for a better future

0:24:270:24:29

and has been a tenant with the housing association

0:24:290:24:32

for the last two years.

0:24:320:24:34

As you can see, um, I haven't got much furnishings.

0:24:350:24:40

It's because of the Zen Buddhist concept,

0:24:400:24:44

we know about er, meditation, it, sort of like helps you

0:24:440:24:47

to clear up your mind.

0:24:470:24:49

Wisdom tells me

0:24:490:24:51

that if I were to maybe buy a bulky piece of furniture,

0:24:510:24:56

I might really regret it, because if things are not that spacious,

0:24:560:25:02

I can't look forward to making it the Zen,

0:25:020:25:05

to achieve the Zen atmosphere, the Zen effect, you see.

0:25:050:25:08

Zen or not, the condition of the flat

0:25:130:25:15

is a breach of Steven's tenancy.

0:25:150:25:18

-Hello.

-Hello.

-You all right?

-Yeah.

-Can I come in?

-Yeah, yeah.

-Thank you.

0:25:180:25:22

Now Sarah has established Steven IS living at the flat,

0:25:220:25:27

and not committing benefit fraud,

0:25:270:25:28

she'll need to make sure he improves it.

0:25:280:25:31

She's using an estate clear-up day to encourage him.

0:25:310:25:34

-Are you OK?

-Started, just a bit.

0:25:340:25:37

You've sort of separated it.

0:25:370:25:40

So you need to get rid of it all today.

0:25:400:25:42

-There's one.

-One.

-No, you'll need a few.

-Er, no - just one will be...

0:25:420:25:46

-I'll give you a few.

-Er...

0:25:460:25:49

Take a few because you've got all the cans in the kitchen as well,

0:25:490:25:52

-ain't you?

-Er, I managed to clear some of them.

0:25:520:25:56

Big plastic bag. I managed to clear...

0:25:590:26:01

-Just get rid of it.

-Right...

0:26:010:26:04

Just, just, just clear all your empty cans, all your empty bottles.

0:26:040:26:08

-Yeah. Anything you don't want to keep...

-Yeah.

0:26:080:26:10

-bag up for me...

-Yeah, no problem.

0:26:100:26:12

..and then take it down to the skips.

0:26:120:26:15

I think he's quite attached to his rubbish, but it just needs to go,

0:26:150:26:19

so I'll, I'll keep coming back

0:26:190:26:21

and checking how he's progressing with it.

0:26:210:26:24

It's a good thing to recycle.

0:26:330:26:35

A bowl or recyclable...

0:26:350:26:40

..and microwaveable packagings, er,

0:26:400:26:43

definitely it's a good thing to, to reuse them whenever possible.

0:26:430:26:48

Some residents can sustain a tenancy quite easily and independently,

0:26:500:26:53

and other residents need a little bit of support.

0:26:530:26:57

Steven's going to be one that needs

0:26:570:26:59

a little bit more support. I'm quite happy to do that,

0:26:590:27:03

um, and that's just part of my job.

0:27:030:27:06

-Is that enough for now?

-Yeah, that'll do, great - thank you.

0:27:060:27:09

I'm just coming to see how you're getting on.

0:27:090:27:12

Brilliant, right.

0:27:130:27:15

So you've cleared a bit more.

0:27:150:27:18

Is this what you're keeping in the middle?

0:27:180:27:20

-Er, yeah.

-Right, OK.

-Those are the...

0:27:200:27:22

All right, well at least it's a bit, a bit clearer.

0:27:220:27:26

-You done anything in the bedroom?

-I haven't done anything much, really.

0:27:260:27:32

Right. Um...

0:27:320:27:34

..well you see, he needs to sort through it.

0:27:370:27:40

Do you want to walk down with me, now?

0:27:400:27:42

What are these jars er, what are...

0:27:480:27:50

-Er, leave it out.

-Are you keeping them?

0:27:500:27:52

Yeah. I'll just throw them in, into my bag.

0:27:520:27:55

-That's fine...

-Yeah.

-..if you want to put them in your bag.

0:27:550:27:58

You know it might appear that we're being a bit forceful

0:27:580:28:01

about a little bit of rubbish in a flat,

0:28:010:28:04

but my concern is that if he was left and it wasn't monitored,

0:28:040:28:08

then potentially it could be a serious sort of hoarding issue.

0:28:080:28:13

He's got nowhere to store papers, he's got nowhere to store anything.

0:28:130:28:16

So I think we need to get him a bit more comfortable and then see how he,

0:28:160:28:19

how he sort of lives after that.

0:28:190:28:21

Jill has been working with the police to track down the youths

0:28:320:28:35

targeting the Polish family. And the police think they've found them.

0:28:350:28:39

Jill's on her way to the station to question them.

0:28:390:28:43

Their parents will also be invited, and so they should be there as well,

0:28:430:28:47

so if they don't know what their kids are up to,

0:28:470:28:49

then they will after today.

0:28:490:28:51

The police can't charge the boys,

0:28:510:28:53

as the CCTV evidence is not high enough quality.

0:28:530:28:57

But under housing law,

0:28:570:28:59

Jill is able to issue them with acceptable behaviour agreements.

0:28:590:29:03

OK, City West has brought you here today

0:29:030:29:05

because you seem to be part of a gang or part of a group of youths

0:29:050:29:10

that are causing problems on the estate. I understand

0:29:100:29:13

there was threats to kill the daughter,

0:29:130:29:15

allegedly, that came from you?

0:29:150:29:18

I didn't threaten to kill, just shouting at her

0:29:180:29:22

-and telling her to get out me face.

-Is that all you said?

-Yeah.

0:29:220:29:25

-What do you think about all this?

-It's stupid really, isn't it?

0:29:250:29:28

-Stupid.

-It shouldn't have happened, what I did.

0:29:280:29:31

We don't want to meet you again on an ASBO warning interview,

0:29:310:29:33

which will be the next stage.

0:29:330:29:36

If the boys don't adhere to the conditions they sign up to,

0:29:360:29:39

then they'll be in line for more severe punishments.

0:29:390:29:42

It says that you'll not act in an antisocial manner,

0:29:420:29:44

intimidate, harass persons,

0:29:440:29:46

or not throw fireworks into private or public properties.

0:29:460:29:51

Now, do you have any idea why you might be in here today?

0:29:510:29:55

Fireworks.

0:29:550:29:57

You have been seen on the canal bank

0:29:570:29:59

throwing fireworks into people's gardens.

0:29:590:30:01

-Why have you done that?

-I don't know.

0:30:010:30:04

-You don't know, just seemed like a good idea t the time?

-Hm.

0:30:040:30:07

Like that would be a bit of fun?

0:30:070:30:09

If that firework was to enter a building with people inside,

0:30:090:30:11

you could be arrested for arson with intent to endanger life.

0:30:110:30:15

The other offence that we've been notified of is, 3oth of October,

0:30:150:30:21

you were seen running up to the door and giving it a hefty thwack

0:30:210:30:25

with your foot. That's also not behaviour that's acceptable. OK?

0:30:250:30:28

So I'm going to hand you over this, and it just basically says,

0:30:280:30:33

you're not going to do certain things and if you do, there's repercussions.

0:30:330:30:37

What I will have to do is issue a tenancy warning against your mum,

0:30:370:30:41

and if you continue to act in a way which means that we go down the route

0:30:410:30:45

of further prevention against you, then she may end up homeless.

0:30:450:30:49

We're doing this now to stop it before it gets too far,

0:30:490:30:52

before it gets too late to do anything with it.

0:30:520:30:55

-Thanks very much.

-Cheers.

-See ya.

-Bye.

0:30:550:30:58

What I'm hoping is that those that were represented here today

0:30:590:31:02

will cascade it back to those that we've not been able to identify.

0:31:020:31:06

That will then lead to the attacks ceasing completely.

0:31:060:31:10

Youth antisocial behaviour is quite a big issue on our estates.

0:31:180:31:22

It makes people feel unsafe and frightened.

0:31:220:31:25

Ultimately should the behaviour continue and be serious enough

0:31:250:31:28

they may lose their home. That would be a last resort for us,

0:31:280:31:32

because what we want to do is keep communities together

0:31:320:31:36

and we want to make sure that those communities are strong and vibrant.

0:31:360:31:39

But it's important that people have respect for each other.

0:31:390:31:43

I bet your feet are nice and toastie warm today.

0:31:490:31:53

Sarah has arranged for Steven to visit a furniture charity

0:31:530:31:57

to encourage him to introduce some order into his life.

0:31:570:32:00

-This is Steven.

-Hi, Steven, nice to meet you.

0:32:000:32:03

He's one of my tenants on Mossley, and he's um,

0:32:030:32:05

you've got nothing, basically, have you, Steven?

0:32:050:32:08

-Hiya.

-Hello.

0:32:080:32:11

And this is all purely donated.

0:32:110:32:15

Ideally you, you just wanted maybe like a table?

0:32:150:32:19

-Yeah, just, just one table.

-And a...

-Probably.

-And some chairs.

0:32:190:32:22

Do you want to consider a bed yet, or are you happy with your...

0:32:220:32:25

your camp-style set up?

0:32:250:32:27

For the time being, I think a table will do.

0:32:270:32:30

Cos at the moment, Steven, you've got nothing, have you? Let's face it.

0:32:300:32:33

-You've just got...

-Yeah.

-..a living room shell.

0:32:330:32:37

Have you got pots, pans?

0:32:370:32:38

Yeah, you've got pots and pans, things like that, haven't you? Do you want a fridge?

0:32:380:32:44

Er...

0:32:440:32:46

-I think just what I need would be chairs.

-Just chairs.

0:32:460:32:49

Let's just go and look at some chairs. We have some tables up here.

0:32:490:32:53

There's a little one here, just a small one.

0:32:530:32:56

With maybe two chairs like that, if you've got them.

0:32:560:32:59

I don't know.

0:32:590:33:01

-There is a nice little drop-leaf one if you want that.

-Oh, is there?

0:33:010:33:04

A drop-leaf one that folds down?

0:33:040:33:06

It's nice, it folds down there, you see and if he has any company...

0:33:060:33:10

Do you get how it works? That the two sides come up.

0:33:100:33:13

-Save space.

-Yes, space saver.

-OK.

0:33:130:33:16

-Would you like to take that?

-Yeah, yeah, I think, er...

0:33:160:33:20

-And maybe two chairs if they've got them?

-Yeah, if...

0:33:200:33:24

-Do you have two chairs?

-We might have, but they might not match.

-Don't think it matters, does it?

0:33:240:33:28

You're not bothered if they don't match, are you?

0:33:280:33:31

If it's not a matching pair.

0:33:310:33:32

-Do you want to have a look?

-Then just one, maybe.

0:33:320:33:34

Oh, Steven, there's some couple of chairs here, they match.

0:33:340:33:37

-Yeah.

-I'm now turning into your interior designer, OK?!

0:33:370:33:42

If we didn't intervene, we'd have tenants with bags and bags of rubbish

0:33:510:33:55

in the property, we'd have children running riot on the estate

0:33:550:33:58

when they should be in school. You just wouldn't have a happy community.

0:33:580:34:03

You know, we've got to think that we are more than just housing,

0:34:030:34:05

and we have got to... we do play a role

0:34:050:34:08

where we have to look after people a bit more

0:34:080:34:10

and provide a level of support.

0:34:100:34:12

Most of the time they will, they will accept it

0:34:120:34:15

and engage. But then there's a small percentage

0:34:150:34:18

who just will not accept that they need support.

0:34:180:34:20

The consequences of tenants not asking for help

0:34:250:34:29

are all too apparent in Salford,

0:34:290:34:31

where Cat is still searching for answers about John Leigh.

0:34:310:34:35

I'm wondering if I can just go over

0:34:350:34:37

a few quick questions with you with regards...

0:34:370:34:40

She's trying a last line of enquiry before the flat is cleared.

0:34:400:34:43

Another call to the Coroner's liaison officer.

0:34:430:34:46

To date there's still not been any next of kin

0:34:460:34:49

that have come forward to your department?

0:34:490:34:52

No.

0:34:530:34:54

There has been a burial.

0:34:560:34:59

Oh, Wolfgang.

0:34:590:35:00

Oh, did he? Do you know when that was, Paul?

0:35:020:35:05

So, Wolfgang might be able to tell me where it was and when it was?

0:35:050:35:09

Finally, Cat's got a lead.

0:35:090:35:11

There's been a funeral and Wolfgang, the former caretaker, attended.

0:35:110:35:16

So going to see Wolfgang just to see if we can get more details.

0:35:160:35:19

He might be able to advise me of a family member there

0:35:190:35:23

or someone with some more information. Hopefully maybe even identify a next of kin.

0:35:230:35:28

-Morning. How're you doing, all right?

-How are you?

0:35:410:35:45

-Good morning, come in.

-Thank you.

0:35:450:35:47

What I'm really hoping for

0:35:500:35:51

is that you can tell me that there was a next of kin?

0:35:510:35:55

No, there was nobody there, only me on me own,

0:35:550:35:58

I never been a funeral like that.

0:35:580:36:00

Was there no family members or anybody?

0:36:000:36:02

No there was only me there with a bunch of flower,

0:36:020:36:05

and then the hearse is come up,

0:36:050:36:07

and I expected somebody from the building, the whole building,

0:36:070:36:10

we are 58 flats, and surely one should go there with me,

0:36:100:36:15

-you know.

-Yeah.

0:36:150:36:17

Er, I was heartbroken because was only me there, you know.

0:36:170:36:21

-I was really angry to be honest, me dear.

-Yeah.

-You know?

0:36:210:36:25

When I was in the property, I'd seen a retirement card.

0:36:250:36:28

Hm.

0:36:280:36:30

It appeared he had quite a few friends he worked with, and it looked fairly recent.

0:36:300:36:35

Do you know when he retired?

0:36:350:36:37

-What I think is maybe eight years back where he worked.

-Oh, really?

0:36:370:36:40

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:36:400:36:42

Three months after the firework attacks started

0:36:490:36:52

on the Polish family, Jill is back with news.

0:36:520:36:54

We had three boys at the police station, OK?

0:36:540:37:00

One was the boy that kicked your door.

0:37:000:37:03

SHE TRANSLATES

0:37:030:37:05

Other neighbours have also seen him throwing fireworks into gardens.

0:37:070:37:11

You mean we not be alone, but we thinking for that moment

0:37:110:37:14

-that we only alone and we fighting with...

-You're not.

0:37:140:37:17

Neighbours a few doors down also named him.

0:37:170:37:20

Thank you, God.

0:37:200:37:21

So because of that we could also do the same with him.

0:37:210:37:24

And he came in and we sat him down.

0:37:240:37:27

You happy now? You don't feel so isolated now that it's not just you.

0:37:270:37:33

These youths are silly to not just you, they're silly to other people.

0:37:330:37:37

OK? So you've had a bit of help.

0:37:370:37:41

I understand, it's...

0:37:470:37:48

-I think if everybody be closer don't say nothing.

-No.

0:37:480:37:52

Sometimes people do say nothing and they do nothing,

0:37:520:37:55

but they suffer as well.

0:37:550:37:57

Cross fingers, there will be no more problems from them.

0:37:570:38:02

Six weeks after his furniture was delivered,

0:38:150:38:17

Sarah is back to see Steven

0:38:170:38:20

and there's been a new incident.

0:38:200:38:22

Items of food have been thrown from one of the windows

0:38:220:38:25

which sounds like Steven's flat.

0:38:250:38:27

To have thrown it out of the back window onto the communal area

0:38:270:38:31

at the back, and some of it's liquid form,

0:38:310:38:34

so it's splattered against other residents' windows.

0:38:340:38:37

Can you see on the window sill there, and on the one next to it.

0:38:420:38:46

I can't see the ones above.

0:38:460:38:48

Obviously, it's not pleasant for the two residents below him

0:38:480:38:52

to have food flying past their window. And I think the resident

0:38:520:38:56

that complained said, one of the things was a whole swede,

0:38:560:39:00

he said he didn't know what it was, but it hit the floor

0:39:000:39:03

with a massive bang. He said to me,

0:39:030:39:05

"I thought it was a head coming out the window!"

0:39:050:39:07

He said this whole swede just splattered on the floor.

0:39:070:39:10

Well, there is some things in the bin.

0:39:160:39:19

So we'll see what, er, what he says, like.

0:39:190:39:24

-Yeah, hello.

-Hello, you all right?

-I'm OK.

-Good.

0:39:240:39:29

How you getting on?

0:39:310:39:33

Er, not bad.

0:39:330:39:36

-I've had a complaint from another resident in the area...

-Right.

0:39:360:39:39

That you're throwing food out of the back windows, is that right?

0:39:390:39:43

Well, not true, that's not true. The thing is that, um,

0:39:430:39:46

sometimes when I buy milk products or dairy products, um...

0:39:460:39:52

I can't... I don't have a fridge yet, I can't store them overnight.

0:39:530:39:58

It's not fresh. So I put those dairy products at the window ledge.

0:39:580:40:04

-To keep cool?

-Are they falling out the window?

-Yes, they've fallen out.

0:40:040:40:09

-So, er, but I try not to do that now.

-No. If you can not do that.

0:40:090:40:14

Well, when I see out I just have to apologise to them if they...

0:40:140:40:17

No, that's fine.

0:40:170:40:19

If you see them and you want to apologise, that's up to you.

0:40:190:40:22

-Yeah.

-You see all those tubs on your draining board?

0:40:220:40:24

-Yeah.

-We don't seem to be getting anywhere, really.

0:40:240:40:28

It just, it just seems to be growing, the amount of tubs

0:40:280:40:30

that we've got in the kitchen.

0:40:300:40:32

Yeah, because of more food that I'm buying.

0:40:320:40:37

-So you got some Easter eggs.

-Yeah.

0:40:400:40:43

Who are they for? You?

0:40:430:40:44

Er, not really, visitors or whoever. Er, do you want some?

0:40:440:40:49

No, I don't, thank you. I wasn't hinting.

0:40:490:40:52

Right, so, as I've said to you before, I'm going to keep coming back

0:40:520:40:55

-to see how you're getting on with things.

-OK.

0:40:550:40:57

-But we need to see a difference really, don't we?

-Er, yeah.

0:40:570:41:01

Keep on top of the amount of things that are coming into the property

0:41:010:41:04

and going out, really.

0:41:040:41:06

It seems to have got worse again.

0:41:110:41:13

My concern is in another six months, it's going to be

0:41:170:41:19

up to the window sills, we'll have to keep monitoring and coming back

0:41:190:41:23

and checking on him and giving him encouragement to try and clear

0:41:230:41:26

the property a little bit.

0:41:260:41:27

But yeah, only time will tell and hopefully

0:41:270:41:30

one day, we'll get somewhere with it.

0:41:300:41:33

Over the following weeks,

0:41:380:41:39

there were some minor incidents on Eva and Tomas's estate.

0:41:390:41:44

But after three months, the case was finally closed.

0:41:440:41:47

Now starting new life, quiet and nice.

0:41:560:41:58

Chill outs, my nerves and, er, you know.

0:41:580:42:02

I don't expect hello on the street or "how are you?",

0:42:040:42:07

I'm not expect that, really. I don't need that.

0:42:070:42:09

Just I want to say leave us alone, that's what I want.

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Just leave us alone, that's it.

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With all investigations exhausted,

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John Leigh's possessions are being disposed of.

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It's just quite sad to see somebody's entire life

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being taken out of the property. Taken to a landfill.

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And disposed of, really.

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We do build relationships with these people, they're not just customers,

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it's not just a landlord/customer relationship,

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it's much more than that.

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It does make me want to make sure a little bit more that everyone's OK.

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