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We are the generation that film everything. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:08 | |
Even our crimes. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
On phones and on CCTV, they are uploaded and shared online. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:20 | |
The crimes in this film were all vicious robberies committed by teenagers. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:28 | |
They just targeted whoever they felt they could go for. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
It was literally jump and take. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
They used force to steal from their victims. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
As a 20-year-old, it upsets me | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
to think that it's happening in my generation. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
The results were psychological trauma, physical injury and murder. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
No, I won't forgive them. They don't deserve it. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
Brrr-rap! | 0:00:55 | 0:00:56 | |
This programme contains some strong language and scenes which some viewers may find upsetting | 0:01:00 | 0:01:07 | |
Get off it. Get off it. Not yet. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
G-Block was a violent teenage gang. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
They attacked lone women in Tooting, South London, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
boasting openly about their crimes on MSN. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
It was Halloween and about 8.30 at night. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
Very dark, cold and I was coming back from the gym | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
and I was listening to Sergio Mendes and Brasil '66 on my iPod. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:58 | |
It was quite calm, relaxing Latin music. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
I was walking down Clydesdale Road | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
and I saw four guys in the distance and three guys on the other side | 0:03:16 | 0:03:21 | |
of the road and I noticed they were wearing masks from the film Scream. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:26 | |
As I got closer to them, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
they pushed me into a brick wall on the side of the road | 0:03:40 | 0:03:46 | |
and I was in disbelief that they were mugging me, they were attacking me. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:54 | |
I had my handbag on my shoulder and they were trying to take it off me. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
I remember thinking, "I'm not going to let you have this, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
"because this should not be the kind of thing you are doing | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
"and I don't want to make it easy to just take somebody's belongings. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:14 | |
"I am going to fight with you." | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
We were struggling and turning round in circles | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
and banging against the wall and they were all pushing against me. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:25 | |
All they wanted to do was boast about who had caused what injury | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
and that led them to escalate the violence, which progressively | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
got worse and worse and worse. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
I had four of these guys on top of me | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
and the three guys from over the road saw there was a struggle | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
and came over and I thought, "They might hurt me if I don't let go." | 0:05:01 | 0:05:08 | |
So I decided to let go of the bag, but as I let go of the bag, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:15 | |
I thought, "I'm going to take something that belongs to you." | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
So I reached out and grabbed the Scream mask off one of their heads, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
and they scattered. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
They just targeted whoever they felt they could go for. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:30 | |
It wasn't necessarily gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
It was literally jump and take. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
One of the people they mugged, she lost her baby | 0:05:38 | 0:05:43 | |
while she was pregnant at the time. She has lost her baby. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
Hearing that someone has lost their baby, you know it's serious. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
In the MSN exchanges, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:53 | |
the gang bragged about violent attacks on countless other victims. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
They didn't care. They just wanted to prove themselves to each other. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
The victim was someone to be used for that purpose. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
That's why you had women who offered no resistance, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
women who could offer no resistance. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
They were so violently attacked, beaten to the floor, kicked, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
punched, stamped on. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
What we were expecting to find was older youths with a history of street robbery | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
and that wasn't the case. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
When we put our known robbers under the microscope, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
to ascertain the likely suspects, we found it wasn't any of them. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
Months of police surveillance finally paid off. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:58 | |
We were able to identify Gearing Close as the main meeting point | 0:06:58 | 0:07:03 | |
of this group and they called themselves G-Block. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
G-Block wasn't a well established criminal gang, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
but a group of apparently ordinary teenagers living on a quiet | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
close just off Tooting Common. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
These were boys that would help people with their shopping | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
and carry it into their houses. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
They played together as a football team and did lots of things | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
which any normal young boy of that age you would expect to do. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:31 | |
This is Gearing Close. This is where...everything used to happen. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:39 | |
Growing up in Gearing Close, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
Dani was good friends with the G-Block boys. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
Even though we would be noisy at night playing football or just chilling, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:51 | |
we would always help out with people's shopping and pick up the litter. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:56 | |
I don't think anybody's perception was really that negative. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
They were able to give the appearance of being normal, everyday schoolboys, | 0:08:00 | 0:08:06 | |
but the reality is they had a darker secret, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
a darker side, which was this gang membership. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
There were eight boys in the gang, four of whom lived on the close. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
Jordan Rattray, Rubel Ahmed, Abdi Nur and Cyrus Pinnock. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:23 | |
These youths went out nearly every night during this period | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
committing violent acts of street robbery. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
They were armed with knives, iron bars, with mallets, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:35 | |
all of which they used. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:36 | |
While G-Block operated from a quiet South London suburb, another gang | 0:09:11 | 0:09:16 | |
from Kensal Green brought terror to the whole of the London Underground. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
"On Friday, the 23rd of December, on the Hammersmith & City Line train, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
"the whole group gathered around the victim and one male said, 'Wallet.' | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
"Then another male produced a knife | 0:09:28 | 0:09:29 | |
"and plunged it into the victim's upper left thigh." | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
"23rd of December, a group of youths entered a carriage | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
"then approached the victim. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
"One of the groups said to the victim, 'Give me your fucking phone.' | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
"The male then said, 'Give me your fucking wallet.'" | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
"Four males began hitting him as they searched his pockets. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
"He saw one of the youths produce a knife, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
"which he plunged into the victim's left thigh." | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
If you put up a fight, you get stabbed and you get beaten. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:08 | |
The levels of violence are so disproportionate to what | 0:10:08 | 0:10:13 | |
they want to achieve, which is a wallet and a phone off of people. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
It is scary. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
We talk about pack mentality, but the levels of violence don't seem right. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
I've never seen anything like it. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
CCTV helped the police identify a gang of teenage boys. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
They called themselves the KG Tribe. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
The police didn't know anything of the KG Tribe | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
until these numerous robberies on the underground. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
They lived in the Kensal Green area, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
so that's what the KG Tribe stood for. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
One of the gang, 18-year-old Donnel Carty, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
was a regular at a youth club close to Kensal Green Tube. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
Donnel was typical of the young people that we see. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
He's black. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
He...wasn't doing the best in school. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:13 | |
In fact, a lot of time, he wasn't at school. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
I don't think he finished formal schooling. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
What we found over the years is that many of the boys who get into trouble | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
either don't have a relationship with a responsible father, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:33 | |
or their fathers are not in their life at all. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:40 | |
There was a real change in Donnel. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
Things started to become a little more out of control | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
after he stopped living with his father full-time. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:52 | |
Donnel, with his best friend Delano Brown, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
became a principal member of the KG Tribe. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
What I am about to play is a track recorded by Donnel Carty | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
and others from the KG Tribe. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
# I said high-grade bush I'm in the ends | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
# Hide and shush | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
# Burning sea just like toast... # | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
This is Donnel Carty singing now. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
"I want your phone. Make it snappy." | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
They talk about murders, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
robbing people and talk about taking phones off people | 0:12:38 | 0:12:45 | |
which, sadly, is exactly what they did. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
On Thursday, January the 12th 2006, Delano Brown | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
and Donnel Carty were caught on the cameras at Kensal Green Tube. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:02 | |
This footage shows Donnel Carty at the front with the woolly hat | 0:13:03 | 0:13:08 | |
and Delano Brown behind him entering the station. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
You've got Donnel Carty here and Delano Brown here. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:17 | |
As they are about to board the train, Delano Brown pulling his hood up | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
before he gets onto the train. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
Just after 11pm that night, Brown and Carty rob a man on the platform. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
They threatened him. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
They didn't say directly but he believed them to have a knife. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
They stole money and a mobile telephone off him. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
It's just coming up to 23.05. Donnel Carty to the front, Delano Brown to the back. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
They have their hoods up and are crouching down. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
This is a station they know well | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
and they know where the camera positions are. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
They turn to the right. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:53 | |
It is the same way that Tom ap Rhys walks some 20 minutes after that. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
Tom ap Rhys Pryce was a successful 31-year-old lawyer. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
He had recently become engaged to his fiancee Adele Eastman | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
and they lived together in Kensal Green. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
He was a very unique character | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
and one of his key characteristics | 0:14:12 | 0:14:17 | |
was he was always amazingly optimistic about everything. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
He always was interested in everything. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
One of his prep school headmasters said that he was | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
a nice person to have around. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
I remember him saying that. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
I think that was exactly what Tom was. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
He was a nice person to have around. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:35 | |
This footage shows Tom ap Rhys Pryce leaving the station. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
You see him turning right, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:41 | |
heading the same way that Donnel Carty and Delano Brown went. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
This is the last footage of Tom ap Rhys Pryce alive. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:50 | |
You can see the paperwork under his arm, | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
which was paperwork for his wedding. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
There he appears there again. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
He appears there and there and that's it. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
The doorbell was ringing at about four o'clock in the morning. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:12 | |
It went on and on. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
Eventually, I must have woken up and gone downstairs | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
and it was his brother, Michael, at the door in floods of tears | 0:15:17 | 0:15:23 | |
saying, "Tom has been killed." | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
Initially, you are just so shocked and stunned, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
it was hard to take in what he was saying. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
We all sat down and he told us briefly, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:41 | |
because he didn't have much information on what had happened. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:47 | |
In a violent knife attack, Tom was repeatedly stabbed and beaten. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
Delano Brown and Donnel Carty robbed him of his cash, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
his mobile phone and an Oyster card. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
Tom was a well-travelled lad. He wasn't an innocent in London. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:07 | |
He knew how to diffuse situations. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
I think he was coming across something that perhaps he had never | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
come across in his life before. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
These two teenagers, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:18 | |
I think he would not have expected the level of violence. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:23 | |
It is just something he would not have had any understanding of at all. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
I don't think we did either. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
As we understand it, he gave them everything he had, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
but, for whatever reason... | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
It was not enough. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
There was one fatal stab wound that penetrated his heart. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
Once he had been stabbed, even if there was a surgeon there, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:51 | |
it was something he couldn't recover from. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
The police liaison officer was very helpful. | 0:16:55 | 0:17:01 | |
He did give us advice not to watch the news for a while | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
and it was very good advice. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
Although I have to say I did see footage on the news, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
I saw it was on the BBC News. I did see it. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
I just thought, "I can't believe he's not still here." | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
It's very incomprehensible. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
-Incomprehensible is the word. -Gone, just like that. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:31 | |
There he was, then he wasn't. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
Just so sudden. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
In April 2011, a group of armed teenagers from Liverpool | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
went on a ten-day rampage | 0:18:21 | 0:18:22 | |
with little thought that their crimes too | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
would be caught on CCTV. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
The incidents took place over a ten-day period and some nights, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
they did a couple of jobs one after the other. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:35 | |
There was an attack on a pub, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:36 | |
there was an attack on a couple of taxi drivers. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
Then there was the pizza delivery guy. There was a couple of shops. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
It was, I would say, a fast-moving enquiry. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
For me, one of the overriding images in investigating | 0:18:48 | 0:18:53 | |
these offences is the image of Jobe Kilbride. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
What is that?! That to me is just... | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
Urgh. That makes me feel sick. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
That is a very shocking image. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
These offences started over the Royal Wedding weekend. There were street parties in Liverpool. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:25 | |
Everybody was watching or celebrating the Royal Wedding. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
Because of the extra day off for the Royal Wedding, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
I was going to be able to go to Wales and have a long weekend. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
Chris was going to have a working weekend. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
Ha! That didn't happen. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
Liverpool City Council's CCTV captured the moment. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
We are coming into Norris Green now. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
Not one of my favourite areas at the moment, obviously. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
Chris worked hard over Bank Holiday weekends | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
because that's when it's busiest and when people need taxis, you know? | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
I haven't had a Bank Holiday off for ten years, 12 years. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:01 | |
The minimum I wanted to make that night was £150. Minimum. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:08 | |
That was the plan. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
The plan was working up to 12:55am on the Saturday morning... | 0:20:10 | 0:20:15 | |
when the plan got...shot basically. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:20 | |
This group of lads borrowed a mobile phone off somebody to say, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
"Can you do us a favour? Can you ring us a taxi?" | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
So the taxi gets rang, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
they stand in a location, knowing what they're about to do. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
Chris Harkness didn't. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
-Is that them? -Yeah, that's them. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
There's only three of them. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
I'm parked here, out of view. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
The last thing he expects to happen is for a group of males to come up | 0:20:44 | 0:20:50 | |
and put a shotgun in his face. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
The passenger door was ripped open. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
There was someone shouting at me, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
"Turn the engine off. Where's the money? Don't do anything or we'll shoot you." | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
All that went through my mind was, "Why's there a shotgun on my chest?" | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
It was only when the one in the front shouted something | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
and they started to move that I caught sight of the police car | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
at the roundabout and it just kept going. "You're not stopping?" | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
It's like in the films. "Why aren't you stopping?" | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
They started to move away cos they'd obviously seen the police car. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
That's when I thought, "I'm not hanging around anymore." | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
I got out and I ran away. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
All that's going through my head was | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
get some distance between myself and the gun. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
He ran out of his taxi, threw away his keys. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
You can only imagine what was going through his mind at the time. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
Maybe I should've stood up to them, | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
maybe if I had stood up to them, they may have backed down. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
If that gun had been used on Chris being so close, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
I don't know if he'd have been here now. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
That makes me really angry... | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
Yeah. Sorry. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
It does, it makes me really angry. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
The moment after the first robbery, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
we put all our efforts to get these people caught. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
Witness statements to get, house-to-house enquiries, CCTV enquiries | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
and very quickly, we got the help and information that we needed. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
We had a name. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
The 18-year-old, he's got a criminal record, Bradley Beveridge. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
When Chris Harkness's taxi was robbed, they took his mobile phone. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
A few hours later, they used his mobile phone to ring another taxi. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
They were then daft enough to use that mobile phone and direct them to, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:41 | |
what turned out to be, Bradley Beveridge's girlfriend's house. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
OK, so tell me, why don't you want us to see your face? | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
OK, tell us a little bit about you and Bradley then. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
I've got friends who brought up their child in Norris Green. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
Their child wasn't out on the streets at 1am, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
I know that for a fact. So it's not everyone from Norris Green. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
So where's the excuse, "I was brought up in Norris Green"? | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
Make another one because that one isn't going to wash. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
The offences gradually got a little bit more severe. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:20 | |
Beveridge and his little group got a little bit more confident | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
and cocky with the fact that up until that point, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
they'd been going for ten days, they hadn't been caught. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
Police were unaware that the other members of Beveridge's gang | 0:24:29 | 0:24:35 | |
were schoolboys of just 16 and under. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
G-Block was the name used by a violent gang | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
responsible for over 170 muggings. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
They came from the quiet residential estate of Gearing Close, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
just off the Common in Tooting, south London. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
We grew up in Tooting, me and my friends. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
We all went our separate ways at university, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
but eventually we all come back from university | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
and a good way for us to stay together was football. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
It was a common ground and we used to play on Tooting Common, every Saturday. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:39 | |
Included in that were a bunch of lads who must have been 14, 15, | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
maybe even 16, who started to become regulars down there, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
and there was also a lad called Dani who turned up, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
but he was every other week and not so much, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
but we knew Dani and he was a very good player. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
He was probably the best of the bunch. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
He always used to get told off for playing football against the wall, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
he used to get shouted at because it's not our property, | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
cos people are touchy like that within the area. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
So then we went over by the Common on Saturdays and there was a few guys there. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:13 | |
I guess, as most people do, we judged them on first impressions, | 0:26:13 | 0:26:18 | |
and decided that, you know, let's give them a game, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
and maybe it was because it would help us get the numbers right in the game. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
Eventually they'd play with us, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
and we took them under our wing and we used to see them every week. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
They were nice lads. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:31 | |
If you met them in the street, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
you wouldn't feel intimidated by them one little bit in broad daylight, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:38 | |
cos they'd probably be helping their mums with the shopping. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
They were almost geekish in many ways. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
To me they seemed like an older version of us, but just more white. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:49 | |
They were definitely, you know, a younger version of we what we were probably then. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:54 | |
HIP HOP MUSIC PLAYS | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
At the time, there was, like, these different dances | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
that used to come out | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
and something all the boys and I used to do is that | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
we used to, like, proper learn them and then actually put them up, | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
and it only goes to show, like, this is, like, what we used to do. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:22 | |
This is us. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:23 | |
This is the real Gearing Close boys, this is the real G-Block. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:28 | |
Abdi's wearing his Valencia T-shirt that he wore to football most weeks. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:37 | |
Cyrus is wearing some interesting bright red trousers. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
It's quite amusing to see them in that scenario. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
Some of their moves are great. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
They're happy and smiling, and they're just being normal teenagers. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:52 | |
Looking at Abdi there, he's got a big old smile on his face, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
and, you know, he's in his element, and picturing this, | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
you wouldn't imagine that they could intimidate a cat. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
Very innocent, normal young boys, you would say, | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
but this footage was filmed during their robbery spree. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
The one question you've got to ask yourself is | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
how do these innocent young boys in this image here | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
get to the violent thug there | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
with his carving knife, hammer and his ski mask? | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
That is Cyrus Pinnock with the red trousers on, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
and that is Cyrus Pinnock in that photograph. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
In February 2008, all the G-Block boys including Dani were arrested | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
and taken in for questioning. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
I didn't get involved in any of the robberies, any of the muggings, | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
any of the beating up people, any of the taking stuff, | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
whatever they were doing, | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
because something in me was telling me it's wrong. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
Like, it's not right to do that, and with me, | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
especially maybe it was because I was in a relationship | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
with a girl that I liked, | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
or maybe because I was focusing on school | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
and trying to get my GCSEs and actually go to college. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
RAPPING | 0:29:03 | 0:29:04 | |
Having never been involved in any of the muggings, | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
Dani was not charged with any crime and released. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
What did you hear was going on? | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
I knew that, or I heard that, they were going out and doing stuff. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:23 | |
I knew that they would come back with things | 0:29:23 | 0:29:27 | |
that they never really had before. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
And to me it's like, I stayed away from it | 0:29:29 | 0:29:34 | |
and that topic around them | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
because, like, to me, like, it wasn't right. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
We found video footage that we seized off their phones of them | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
immediately after they robbed a pizza delivery driver, | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
held a carving knife to his throat. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
They've then robbed him of the bike he was actually riding, | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
and they steal that and later, shortly after that offence, | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
22 minutes after, I believe, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
they then film themselves on a mobile phone trying to start the bike up. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:07 | |
ENGINE REVS | 0:30:15 | 0:30:16 | |
ENGINE REVS | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
Yes, you can look at that in one aspect and think, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
well, it's quite comical. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
A group of youths who can't even start a motorbike they've just stolen. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
But it also shows almost a blase, naive, stupid attitude | 0:31:03 | 0:31:08 | |
to their offences | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
and not a thought that they were ever going to get caught. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
The police seized the gang's phones and computers. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
They discovered that they'd uploaded numerous photos of themselves brandishing weapons | 0:31:20 | 0:31:25 | |
and they'd boasted about their crimes on MSN, MySpace and Bebo. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:29 | |
It was almost manna from heaven as an investigator | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
to actually look at these crimes you're trying to prove. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
You're interviewing the suspect who is saying, "No reply, no comment, no reply, no comment." | 0:31:40 | 0:31:45 | |
The reality is, you don't need him to say anything | 0:31:45 | 0:31:50 | |
because you've got, in the MSN, his conversation of what he did | 0:31:50 | 0:31:56 | |
and the part he played in a street robbery 40 minutes, 30 minutes, | 0:31:56 | 0:32:01 | |
20 minutes after committing the offence. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
On 20th October 2007, another victim, Hannah Murray, | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
was attacked in the street and property was taken from her. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
20th of October 2007, | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
Cyrus - "Oi, guess what? | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
"Me and Ameel and Abdi and Jordan went sucking and Ameel got an iPod." | 0:32:22 | 0:32:27 | |
Akheem - "What?" | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
Cyrus - "And I got two phones and a camera." | 0:32:31 | 0:32:35 | |
When we searched Cyrus Pinnock's home address, | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
one of the items recovered was a digital camera, | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
which we suspected may have been Hannah Murray's. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
She came to the police station, identified the property as hers, | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
examined the digital camera, | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
saw images of black youths that she didn't recognise. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
At the time she did this, she was with her boyfriend. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
I remember sitting there and being absolutely gobsmacked. | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
Your heart drops. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:02 | |
There must have been seven or eight photos | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
of lads that I knew very well from the Common, and it was the kids. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:09 | |
They were striking poses in an aggressive nature | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
and had knives in their hand and it was all very gangster-esque | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
and it didn't register with me | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
that that was something they were capable of. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
It certainly was, you know, like a stab in the back. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:27 | |
I know it sounds silly | 0:33:27 | 0:33:28 | |
but they didn't know that they were mugging my girlfriend - they didn't know that. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:33 | |
That's not to sympathise with them but that's to say that, you know, | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
I guess they weren't intentionally trying to stab me in the back personally. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
The biggest wrench comes from the fact that | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
they did play football with us after Hannah's mugging, | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
and they would've turned that camera on because they used it, | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
and they would've certainly seen photos of me and my friends as well | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
and still turned up the next week and shook our hands. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
We knew no better at the time and they did. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
So that certainly seemed like a real betrayal, definitely. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
I wanted to see them and to say, "What the hell? What happened?" | 0:34:05 | 0:34:09 | |
And, "Look what you've done." | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
I think we saw Dani maybe a couple of times afterwards, | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
I think it was Dani, | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
and asked him where the kids were and where's Jordan, Abdi and Cyrus. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:21 | |
I think he fobbed it off with a bit of a smile on his face. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
I think he knew that I knew and vice versa. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
But we never saw them after that. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
You said that it's not your responsibility to stop those crimes. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
Whose responsibility was it? | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
Themselves. The boys. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
It's their responsibility because if they know that they're doing wrong, | 0:34:42 | 0:34:47 | |
then they should've stopped it. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
Even though I was their friend and I knew them, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
it wasn't my... It could... It is my responsibility to stop them | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
because they're people I associate myself with | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
and it did make me look bad because I hanged around with them, | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
but it's not my responsibility because it was none of my business. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
To me, I was not involved. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
We picked up the pieces. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
It took Hannah a long time to really get her confidence back again | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
and feel comfortable walking the streets in the dark and all the rest of it. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
Yeah, it was a nightmare, and very traumatic. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
It would be interesting to actually meet one of the victims. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
No word of a lie. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
Because I want to know... how they feel. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
Maybe it might make me be, like, might make me actually sink in, | 0:35:47 | 0:35:52 | |
and be like "Oh, shit. What they did do was really, really bad." | 0:35:52 | 0:35:57 | |
All eight gang members were convicted. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
Judge Price at Kingston Crown Court, quite rightly in my eyes, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
took the view, these are so serious, | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
this is such a long period of offending, that the only option was, | 0:36:08 | 0:36:13 | |
as much as he didn't want to lock up youths, was to protect the public. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
The only way to do that was to give them lengthy custodial sentences, | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
which is what occurred. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
Friday, 29th April 2011, the day of the Royal Wedding, | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
was the day a gang of boys from Norris Green in Liverpool | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
began a ten-day armed robbery spree. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
I think it may start off as boredom, or let's do this for a laugh. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
Let's get some money. We haven't got any cash. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
I'll tell you what we'll do, we could do a robbery. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
They robbed taxi drivers, pubs and delivery vehicles. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
Their next targets were small local shops. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
What we can see is, we've got all our suspects | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
currently stood in the bus stop outside of the shop. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
Culshaw's constantly in and out, you can see on the CCTV, in and out of the shop. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:41 | |
He's casing the joint. He's coming in, having a look. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
Is there anybody in the shop? | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
They wait for the moment when there's no customers. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
I moved up to Liverpool around a year ago with my husband, Raj. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:57 | |
Because he runs a business here, a convenience store. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:02 | |
Raj chose Liverpool I guess | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
because it's easier to find a job than London, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
but, yeah, I like the area, I like the people here. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:14 | |
When this happened in our shop, it was a Tuesday. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
I was at the shop in the morning. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
We were extending our shop, | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
and Mani was helping with that. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
My main work is a shop assistant, | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
but I do building works, tiling, shelving, on part-time also. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:38 | |
Everyone was tired. They wanted a break, | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
so we thought, you know, we'll have a barbecue as it was a nice day. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
So my husband and Mani, they went out, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:49 | |
they bought some stuff for the barbecue | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
and the staff, Sam, and the other guy, Ravi, | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
stayed at work in the shop. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
That's... | 0:39:00 | 0:39:01 | |
I think Sam. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
They're just getting ready to close the shop. So... | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
Just moving everything away. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
OK, this is when the boys are entering the shop. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
The boys come in. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
One of them's holding the gun. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
Bradley Beveridge, clearly with a shotgun in his hand, | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
his face covered, | 0:39:40 | 0:39:41 | |
and in come the other two as well, Currie and Kilbride. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
Immediately start threatening the shopkeeper. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:49 | |
We see Culshaw in the blue top, | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
literally just pulls his jumper over his head. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
Not a sophisticated criminal. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
Didn't even try to conceal his identity very well. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
With Priya, her husband and Mani having a barbecue, | 0:39:59 | 0:40:04 | |
the only staff covering the shop were part-time assistants, Sam and Ravi. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:08 | |
This is Ravi. First he thinks they're joking with the gun. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:16 | |
Then he realises it's a real gun so he gets behind the counter. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:21 | |
The staff will be feeling really helpless | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
because they don't know what to do, | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
they don't have any panic alarms or they can't call anyone. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
Ravi, he would just be thinking, "What have I got myself into?" | 0:40:32 | 0:40:39 | |
Cos it was his first day. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
He doesn't work there, he just came to help out and he experienced this. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:46 | |
He told me that they were swearing and yelling at them. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:53 | |
Again, the screaming at the shopkeeper, he's got a shot gun pointed at him, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
constantly, "Give us the money! Give us the effing money!" | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
They don't care about feelings and thoughts | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
of the shop workers at all, these guys are absolutely petrified. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
Beveridge and co, they don't care what effect they leave behind. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:13 | |
It was around 10.30, we were just finishing up with the barbecue. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:22 | |
We had nice food and we had a few beers and all that, a nice time. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:26 | |
And the time goes quickly. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
My husband got a call from the shop. I didn't hear what they were saying, | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
but he was just like, "OK, I'm coming," then cut the phone. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
And then he told us that the shop's been robbed with armed robbers. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:40 | |
My husband and Mani just ran out the door, and that's when | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
they met the boys outside. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
Mani goes to respond to his friend | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
who works in the shop, saying, "We're being robbed." | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
So he comes out of the house | 0:41:55 | 0:41:57 | |
and is making the relatively short distance to his shop, | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
the last thing he expects is to encounter the same gang | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
that has just robbed the shop. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
But that's the coincidence, that's what happens in this case. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
I just saw everything, you know, happening, but I couldn't process it. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:13 | |
I see the gun that one of them is holding in their hand, | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
then I know these are the boys who robbed the shop. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
My husband and Mani, they are moving towards them. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
I got scared, so I told them to be careful. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
They said, "We're gonna shoot you." | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
He stopped in his tracks. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
But again, he didn't know, was that gun loaded? | 0:42:29 | 0:42:33 | |
The neighbours were screaming, "Don't shoot!" | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
And Beveridge fires the gun. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
I heard a bang. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
And Mani didn't make a noise or anything, | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
he just fell and I just, I just totally freaked out. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
I didn't know what to think, I didn't know if he was hurt or... | 0:42:50 | 0:42:54 | |
-I don't know. -I heard the noise, bang! | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
I don't feel straight away pain. After a bit later, feel the pain, | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
then I realise I got something, then the ambulance took me. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
His injuries were minor. It could have been a lot worse. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:14 | |
He knows that, we know that. He could have been killed. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:18 | |
After shooting at Mani, the gang ran off. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
But they left a trail of evidence. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
'It's a classic game of cops and robbers. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
'They're going out robbing, | 0:43:26 | 0:43:27 | |
'they know the cops are going to be not far behind them.' | 0:43:27 | 0:43:30 | |
They want to try and stay one step ahead of us. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:32 | |
But these weren't sophisticated criminals. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:35 | |
These guys didn't know what they were doing. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:39 | |
They weren't even wearing gloves, you know. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:42 | |
You'd think if they had come to rob a shop, they would wear gloves | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
or have proper masks on their face to cover their faces. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
They didn't have gloves and they touched everything, | 0:43:48 | 0:43:50 | |
that's how the police caught them. They touched everything. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:53 | |
They left us so many clues. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:57 | |
We were able, from watching the CCTV, | 0:43:57 | 0:43:59 | |
to direct the crime scene investigator | 0:43:59 | 0:44:01 | |
to examine the places that they had touched. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
One put his hands right on top of the Liverpool Echo, | 0:44:04 | 0:44:07 | |
grabbed the top of the glass partition. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:09 | |
What Beveridge got hold of now is his mobile phone top-ups, | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
his fingerprints were found all over that box. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
Once we had those fingerprints recovered, | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
we had to quickly liaise with our fingerprints and forensic department | 0:44:23 | 0:44:28 | |
to identify who these people were. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:31 | |
And that's when I got told, it's Jobe Kilbride. He's 13 years of age. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:35 | |
That, for me... The first thing I asked them to do was check it - | 0:44:35 | 0:44:39 | |
you know, can you check that's right? | 0:44:39 | 0:44:41 | |
I've got a 13-year-old who is committing an armed robbery. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
They checked it, it came back, yeah, it's right. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
And it was at that point it was like, I am completely shocked, | 0:44:47 | 0:44:51 | |
gobsmacked in fact. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:53 | |
I didn't realise he was 13. I thought maybe 17, 16, 18. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:58 | |
13 is a surprise for me. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:01 | |
When he got the sentence, that day only, I know he is 13. My God! | 0:45:01 | 0:45:05 | |
When we arrested Kilbride, we seized his mobile phone. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:10 | |
Once we looked at his mobile phone, | 0:45:10 | 0:45:11 | |
is there any evidence on that phone that can assist us? | 0:45:11 | 0:45:15 | |
We find that picture that one of his friends had taken of him. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:18 | |
Happily stood there, holding a shotgun. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
Boasting that I am happy to carry this | 0:45:25 | 0:45:27 | |
and ultimately go out and use this weapon. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:29 | |
I'm a mum of a boy who is 13 next week, | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
you know, he wouldn't... He's never even seen a real gun. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:37 | |
I don't even know how these people get guns. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
Would you know where to get a gun? | 0:45:47 | 0:45:49 | |
As a 20-year-old, I have heard of crimes | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
that have involved people around the same age as me, | 0:46:03 | 0:46:06 | |
but children using guns, this is the first time I've seen this. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:11 | |
It upsets me to think that is happening in, like, my generation. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:18 | |
Within hours of them committing that offence, | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
we had the first couple in custody. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:23 | |
Within 24 hours of it, they were all in custody. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:26 | |
The five members of the gang, ranging in age from 13 to 18, | 0:46:27 | 0:46:32 | |
were Jobe Kilbride, Dylan Currie, Declan Culshaw, | 0:46:32 | 0:46:37 | |
and best friends Declan Kilbride and Bradley Beveridge. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:43 | |
For me, the driving force behind these offences was Beveridge. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
Knowing his previous convictions | 0:46:47 | 0:46:49 | |
and what he has been in trouble for in the past, | 0:46:49 | 0:46:51 | |
it didn't surprise me with him. But for all the others, | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
to go from no criminal record | 0:46:54 | 0:46:56 | |
to your first one on your list is armed robbery, | 0:46:56 | 0:47:00 | |
it is something very, very rare. Very rare indeed. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:05 | |
I'm sorry... | 0:47:14 | 0:47:16 | |
they look like scum. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
And they are scum. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
Him - I hope he never gets out. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
One of the guys, I think the 18-year-old one, | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
he actually, erm... | 0:48:10 | 0:48:14 | |
started shouting... | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
swearing at the judge about the sentence he got. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:22 | |
If they are going to behave like that towards a judge, | 0:48:41 | 0:48:45 | |
then how safe are we? | 0:48:45 | 0:48:47 | |
I...I don't think we are safe at all. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:54 | |
Chris is not a violent man, he's like your gentle giant. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:02 | |
But if pushed, he could look after himself. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
He has always been my... | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
strong guy. He's the one who has looked after us, | 0:49:08 | 0:49:10 | |
and the fact that someone, some... | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
..punks, for want of a better word, | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
got the better of him on that night, upsets me. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:21 | |
It really does. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:22 | |
Cos he is the one who makes me feel safe, | 0:49:22 | 0:49:24 | |
and I'm sure for one minute he didn't feel safe that night. | 0:49:24 | 0:49:28 | |
'After it happened, | 0:49:32 | 0:49:33 | |
'I think I went through every range of emotions, to be honest.' | 0:49:33 | 0:49:37 | |
Guilt. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:39 | |
Anxiety. | 0:49:41 | 0:49:43 | |
Stupidity. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:44 | |
I felt disappointed in myself, to a degree... | 0:49:47 | 0:49:51 | |
..that I wasn't protecting the family, as you're supposed to. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:57 | |
I was snappy, losing my temper. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:02 | |
And not wanting to talk. Couldn't sleep. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:07 | |
Been to the doctors, the doctor thinks I've got post-traumatic stress. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:11 | |
For a while, I was really worried about him afterwards, | 0:50:14 | 0:50:17 | |
for obvious reasons. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:18 | |
Even now, I still think he has his moments. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
On the night he was murdered, | 0:50:27 | 0:50:28 | |
Tom ap Rhys Pryce was returning from an evening out. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
Cameras at Kensal Green tube station | 0:50:31 | 0:50:33 | |
capture him passing the ticket barrier, but he never made it home. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:37 | |
These are the teenagers who ended his life - | 0:50:37 | 0:50:39 | |
Donnel Carty and Delano Brown. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:41 | |
They are seen here running from the tube station, | 0:50:41 | 0:50:43 | |
where they had already robbed another man, | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
taking his phone and money. They then chose their next target. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:50 | |
The following day, on the 13th, | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
bearing in mind you have actually got cordons | 0:50:53 | 0:50:57 | |
all around that area where Tom was murdered, | 0:50:57 | 0:51:00 | |
Donnel Carty makes his way back to Kensal Green station | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
and tries to use Tom's Oyster card. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:08 | |
This is Donnel Carty appearing. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:11 | |
He's trying to swipe the card. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:13 | |
It beggars belief that he could do that. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:16 | |
Initially, I would think about, being so naive, | 0:51:16 | 0:51:19 | |
how could someone do that? Then you look at it, | 0:51:19 | 0:51:23 | |
and the area would literally have been full of police, | 0:51:23 | 0:51:26 | |
yet he was quite happy to go and try | 0:51:26 | 0:51:29 | |
and use Tom ap Rhys Pryce's Oyster card at Kensal Green station. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:33 | |
And not only using it, asking a member of staff | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
if there was any credit on it. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:38 | |
That he could do that, it goes beyond naivety, | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
it does show unbelievable levels of arrogance. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
We were both brought up as Christians and taught, you know, | 0:51:44 | 0:51:49 | |
that redemption is always possible, | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
and that forgiveness is one of the key aspects of Christianity. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:57 | |
And that to have - and this is a cliche, I know - | 0:51:57 | 0:52:01 | |
but to have hate in your heart doesn't help | 0:52:01 | 0:52:05 | |
and it actually makes you feel worse, at the end of the day. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
So I think we were more interested, probably, | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
in trying to reach some sort of understanding as to what | 0:52:11 | 0:52:16 | |
brings somebody into acting in this way. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:20 | |
You know, you either feel it's an eye for an eye or tooth for a tooth, | 0:52:20 | 0:52:24 | |
which is the kind of, you know, you pay back somebody, or you... | 0:52:24 | 0:52:30 | |
Turn the other cheek. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:31 | |
..you have the Christian view, which is that you forgive. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:36 | |
After Tom's death, a memorial trust was set up in his name | 0:52:37 | 0:52:41 | |
by his law firm, his fiancee and his parents. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:45 | |
Well, Tom's trust aims to help disadvantaged children | 0:52:45 | 0:52:49 | |
in London with education or training | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
to try and prevent them going down the wrong road. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:58 | |
Anything we can do in the way of providing sports facilities, | 0:52:58 | 0:53:03 | |
or music facilities, or educational facilities, | 0:53:03 | 0:53:05 | |
is going to enrich their lives, and that's really what it's all about. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:11 | |
Tom's fiancee made this statement and it was read out in court. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:17 | |
"On the day Tom was killed, he made contact with a priest | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
"who was due to conduct our wedding ceremony. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:22 | |
"He printed off the details he had received that afternoon, | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
"together with his wedding vows. They were found later that night, | 0:53:25 | 0:53:28 | |
"strewn around the pavement, as the paramedics battled to save his life. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:33 | |
"In a matter of seconds, wedding plans and a future together | 0:53:33 | 0:53:36 | |
"had changed to funeral plans and a lifetime apart. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
"The pain is unlike anything I have ever experienced, | 0:53:39 | 0:53:41 | |
"unlike anything I could ever imagine. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:44 | |
"I feel as though Carty and Brown have ripped out my heart | 0:53:44 | 0:53:46 | |
"with their bare hands and torn it very slowly into pieces. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:50 | |
"There are no more tomorrows here for me and Tom | 0:53:51 | 0:53:55 | |
"and all our hopes and dreams have been brutally torn away. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:59 | |
"I just hope that there is something better for us on the other side. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
"In the meantime, just as hate and bitterness | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
"had no place in Tom's life, neither will they in his memory. | 0:54:05 | 0:54:08 | |
"I am determined to ensure, along with many others, | 0:54:08 | 0:54:12 | |
"that as much good as possible comes out of this horrific tragedy." | 0:54:12 | 0:54:15 | |
Right now, I'm at my second year of university, | 0:54:22 | 0:54:26 | |
studying urban dance practice at the University of East London. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:30 | |
'Yeah, I would say dance is my biggest passion.' | 0:54:34 | 0:54:38 | |
And maybe because, I think I do it | 0:54:38 | 0:54:42 | |
because I am kind of good at it! | 0:54:42 | 0:54:46 | |
I have done so much in the time they've been in prison, but I don't | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
see them any different, cos there's no reason to see them any different. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:58 | |
Nothing's really changed between me and them. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:03 | |
We were a trusting bunch, and that trust was certainly betrayed. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:15 | |
It makes you question | 0:55:15 | 0:55:16 | |
people's character and whether you are quite getting it right or not. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:20 | |
That is a sad thing as well, because, | 0:55:20 | 0:55:21 | |
although we probably won't now, if we ended up going down | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
to Tooting Common again and a whole load of lads would come | 0:55:24 | 0:55:27 | |
and approach us to play, which is natural, | 0:55:27 | 0:55:29 | |
we would probably think twice about it. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:31 | |
It's always in the back of your head. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:35 | |
Group of lads get into the car now, I can't wait to get them out. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:40 | |
I don't know how we'll ever get over that. So, no. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:46 | |
No, I won't forgive them. They don't deserve it. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:49 | |
When I got married, I had all these expectations, these ambitions, | 0:55:51 | 0:55:56 | |
these dreams of starting a new life with my husband. | 0:55:56 | 0:56:00 | |
But just a few months into our new life, you know, | 0:56:00 | 0:56:05 | |
all these unexpected events happened | 0:56:05 | 0:56:09 | |
and, erm...it's made me, erm...anxious | 0:56:09 | 0:56:16 | |
about, you know, what lies ahead. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:20 | |
Everyone's got an opinion on young people and crime. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:26 | |
To make sure your voice is heard | 0:56:26 | 0:56:28 | |
and to find out more about the issues, go to - | 0:56:28 | 0:56:31 | |
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