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We all remember where we were the day the world changed, | 0:00:04 | 0:00:09 | |
but do we know what really happened? | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
Look closer through the smoke and horror, say conspiracy theories, | 0:00:13 | 0:00:18 | |
-and you'll find that not everything was as it first appeared. -Oh, shit! | 0:00:18 | 0:00:23 | |
'We don't know the full story.' | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
We know the official story is completely disproven and a fairytale. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
There are a multitude of different conspiracy theories about 9/11 | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
and the internet has given them a reach and a life as never before. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
We're people who have questions. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
10 years on, the questions keep coming. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
If a large passenger jet crashed into the Pentagon, why was the hole in the exterior wall so small? | 0:00:51 | 0:00:58 | |
There's no debris. I'd expect Tiger to show up to practise his putting. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:03 | |
Could a controlled demolition have caused this building to collapse at the World Trade Center? | 0:01:03 | 0:01:08 | |
There's something wrong here. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
If you have seen Building Seven, there is no way back. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
Without a photograph, where's the proof that the US military killed Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan? | 0:01:15 | 0:01:22 | |
The intel we're getting now is that it was one of many Bin Laden doubles in the house. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:28 | |
The whole thing is an elaborate hoax. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
I served at CIA for 24 years. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
We're smart, we're good. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
To believe that we could orchestrate a 10-year conspiracy... Forget that it would be immoral, unethical | 0:01:35 | 0:01:41 | |
and simply unbelievable except in the movies. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
So why do so many people doubt what the American government tells them about 9/11? | 0:01:45 | 0:01:52 | |
As Sherlock Holmes was fond of observing, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:57 | |
"When you've eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." | 0:01:57 | 0:02:03 | |
'Hi. We have a problem here. We have a hijacked aircraft heading towards New York | 0:02:21 | 0:02:27 | |
'And we need someone to scramble some F-16s or something up there. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:32 | |
-'Is this real world or exercise? -No, it's not an exercise or a test. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
'It's not an exercise or a test. It's not an exercise or a test...' | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
This is all that remains of America's biggest crime scene. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:45 | |
The World Trade Center, consigned to a hangar in a New York suburb. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:50 | |
Could the secrets of 9/11 lie here? | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
The official account of what happened on that day is unequivocal. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
After two years of planning, Osama Bin Laden's 19 young martyrs, | 0:03:12 | 0:03:17 | |
armed with knives and box cutters, casually walked through airport security and hijacked four planes. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:23 | |
Then, within the space of 77 minutes, they destroyed the iconic symbols of America's power, | 0:03:26 | 0:03:32 | |
taking nearly 3,000 lives with them into the flames, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
67 British people among them. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
Two planes hit the World Trade Center in New York. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
Another ploughed into the Pentagon, HQ of the military in Washington. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:52 | |
'The second tower has exploded!' | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
The final plane crashed in a field in Pennsylvania on its way to the capital, | 0:03:54 | 0:04:00 | |
its likely target either Congress or the White House. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
WOMAN'S VOICE: 'I just wanted to let you know I love you. I'm stuck in this building' | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
'A plane hit the building or a bomb went off. We don't know. I just want you to know I love you.' | 0:04:11 | 0:04:18 | |
The official inquiry admitted that America was caught off guard and the response was chaotic, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:24 | |
but found no conspiracy involving the government in Washington. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:29 | |
-Oh, my God! The next building...! -There's another one! | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
-Oh, my God! Oh, my God! -Another plane just flew into... | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
SIRENS WAIL | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
But many simply don't accept the official conclusion. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:56 | |
'Big Brother. Mainstream media. Government cover-ups. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:08 | |
'You want answers? Well, so does he. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
'He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
-'And now, live from Austin Texas, Alex Jones.' -Let's go! Yeah! | 0:05:15 | 0:05:21 | |
The loudest voice in the self-styled 9/11 truth movement broadcasts a three-hour show every day. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:28 | |
He said, "Yes, we're secret. Yes, we're authoritarian. Yes, it's good. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:33 | |
"And you bet we're militarising. This world is ours and we're coming for it. You'll lay down and take it!" | 0:05:33 | 0:05:40 | |
Ha ha! They love it! Well, I got news for you! | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
Some of us are still red-blooded! | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
He's expanding his business and he says he knows the real culprits of 9/11. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:53 | |
Private corporate rogue networks working in US, British and Israeli intelligence - all three groups - | 0:05:53 | 0:05:59 | |
were found to have fingerprints, but the main driver was rogue networks at the top of the US government. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:06 | |
Here's the thing. The government admits they've staged events before. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:12 | |
The official story doesn't add up. I'm saying that it needs to be investigated. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:18 | |
So what did happen on that day? | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
The questions start as dawn broke on Tuesday, 11th September, 2001. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:32 | |
American Airlines Flight 11 pushed back from the gate at 7.40am. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:38 | |
The first report of a possible hijack came at 8.19, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:43 | |
but why did the world's most powerful air force fail to intercept this or any of the four planes? | 0:06:43 | 0:06:50 | |
'We have a problem here. We have a hijacked aircraft headed towards New York.' | 0:06:50 | 0:06:56 | |
That morning, Colin Scoggins arrived at work in the Federal Aviation Administration, | 0:06:56 | 0:07:01 | |
or FAA's Boston centre for air traffic control. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:06 | |
As soon as I walked in the door, someone told me there was a hijack going on. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:11 | |
But this hijack was different. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
There were multiple hijacks, four hijacks. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
They'd turned off the transponder and it also sounded like there was some violence on the aircraft. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:23 | |
Now the military were looking for one plane among thousands on radar | 0:07:23 | 0:07:28 | |
and it was being taken off course. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
What's more, a routine military training exercise was taking place at the US Air Defense Command. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:38 | |
So it was another 27 minutes before the interceptors were scrambled. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:43 | |
'We have a problem here. We have a hijacked aircraft headed for New York and we need to get... | 0:07:43 | 0:07:49 | |
'We need someone to scramble some F-16s to help us out. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
-'Is this real world or exercise? -No, this is not an exercise or test.' | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
Even as the interceptors took off, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
the pilots were still unclear about where they were supposed to go. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
'I need a direction, a destination...' | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
It's claimed this was the start of a carefully-planned conspiracy | 0:08:12 | 0:08:17 | |
involving four hijacked passenger planes. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
It's alleged the then Vice President Dick Cheney ordered the US military not to intercept the planes. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:28 | |
Cheney ordered the stand down. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
The aircraft were scrambled and, in some cases, had over 45 minutes to get where they were going | 0:08:31 | 0:08:38 | |
and were told to fly around at stalling speed. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
Colin Scoggins was in constant contact with US Air Defense Command. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:47 | |
I never saw any lack of responses. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
Everything I saw from the military that day, there was no stand down. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:59 | |
I was probably in communication with the military more than anybody else. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:04 | |
He saw plenty of confusion, but no conspiracy. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:09 | |
I think the biggest part was the lack of communication between the FAA and the military | 0:09:10 | 0:09:16 | |
and the other part was the equipment the military had. It was designed to look out over the ocean. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:22 | |
It wasn't designed to look inside the United States. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
-Holy fuck! -A WOMAN SCREAMS | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
And that's also why the interceptor jets flew the wrong way. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:38 | |
It was assumed any air threat would come from overseas, so, following standard procedure, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:44 | |
the fighters took off to the east. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
They didn't reach Long Island until 22 minutes after the second tower had been hit. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:52 | |
'Gimme the location!' | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
Upstate New York, home to the most successful conspiracy film ever. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:06 | |
9.38. Arlington, Virginia. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
Hani Hanjour allegedly executes a 330-degree turn at 530 miles per hour | 0:10:14 | 0:10:19 | |
to crash American Airlines Flight 77 into the Pentagon. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:24 | |
The first edition of Loose Change cost just 2,000. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
The latest had had a budget of a million. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
Flight 77 manages to hit the only section that was reinforced to withstand a terrorist attack. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:38 | |
And Dylan Avery is the prodigy behind the film. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:48 | |
-That's Jonas. -Howdy. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
Luke. Foot soldier. One of the best people in New York for truth. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
Jay Mandresh. Cook/dishwasher. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
-Just kidding, man. -No, it's true. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
This is our office. No one's in yet. That's our secretary's desk. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
That's really about it for this room. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
And that leads us to my room. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
-This is it. -So this is where you work? -This is where the magic happens. Yes, sir. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:25 | |
Loose Change has become an internet phenomenon, viewed by tens of millions of people. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:32 | |
To reach a global audience this big in the past, you'd have needed the backing of a Hollywood studio. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:38 | |
Now all you need is a modicum of technical knowledge and a bargain basement computer. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:43 | |
This is the laptop that started it all. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
In February, 2003, after saving up for about two months or so, | 0:11:48 | 0:11:54 | |
I went to a Radio Shack and bought this. I had it the next morning | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
and started editing what would become Loose Change, the documentary. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
His film sets out the central conspiracy theory that the World Trade Center Twin Towers | 0:12:02 | 0:12:09 | |
collapsed not because of fire, but because they were rigged with explosives. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:15 | |
'Do you still think that jet fuel brought down the Twin Towers? | 0:12:15 | 0:12:20 | |
'In almost all the videos of the collapses, violent ejections appear | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
'20-60 storeys below the demolition wave. Here. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:29 | |
'Here. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:31 | |
'Here. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
'And here.' | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
Reports of loud bangs and the sudden collapse of the buildings are taken as proof of explosives. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:51 | |
The person who should know why the buildings came down is the original structural engineer. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:03 | |
Leslie Robertson's office still overlooks Ground Zero. He worked on the buildings from the 1960s. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:09 | |
I guess I was involved from the very first breath of the project. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
It's a very romantic thought, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
all these ideas, but they're not real. They're not real at all. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:27 | |
The official report into the collapse concluded that when the planes slammed into the towers, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:34 | |
they severed and damaged support columns and dislodged fireproofing. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:39 | |
Purdue University modelled how 10,000 gallons of jet fuel | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
was spewed over many floors, starting widespread fires. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:50 | |
Temperatures reaching up to 1,000 degrees Celsius weakened the floors and columns. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:56 | |
The fires don't have to melt the steel in order to bring it down. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
just raise it high enough so that the strength of the steel is reduced to the point where failure takes place. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:07 | |
Steel melts at around 1,500 degrees Celsius, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
but at 600 degrees it loses half its strength. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:17 | |
Eventually, the floors sagged and the perimeter columns bent, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
starting the collapse and creating the sounds of explosions. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
The massive weight of the floors above dropped, creating a load far beyond what they were designed for. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:31 | |
There was plenty of weight to bring it down. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
The floors below caved in, causing those puffs of smoke. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
There's air inside and as the building comes down, it creates very high pressures. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:47 | |
It tries to break the glass out and, sure, you're going to get... | 0:14:47 | 0:14:52 | |
..gas emitted from the building. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
Modern conspiracy theories | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
are casting a long shadow. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
One leading structural engineer thinks they are distracting attention from a critical debate | 0:15:03 | 0:15:09 | |
about the safety of the Twin Towers and he, too, has been caught up in the conspiracy theories. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:16 | |
It doesn't make any sense whatsoever! They are so zealous. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:21 | |
After all the discussion you make and you show there is no way it's correct, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:26 | |
they go, "How about this...?" It's a complete circular discussion, continuously. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:33 | |
Professor Astaneh has studied the full structural drawings of the Twin Towers. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:41 | |
He points to 11 areas where the design departed from tried and tested methods | 0:15:42 | 0:15:49 | |
approved by building codes, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
such as lightweight concrete floors or gypsum walls, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:56 | |
and especially the use of thin bearing walls around the perimeter | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
instead of the conventional structure of columns and beams. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:06 | |
The reason it collapsed | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
was because of that...bearing wall system. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:16 | |
At the level that aeroplane hit, the thickness of the steel wall was only 6 millimetres. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:22 | |
6 millimetres. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
It doesn't say that we should blame Mr Robertson or the designers for this tragedy. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:31 | |
This tragedy happened because those murderers came and killed our innocent people. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:37 | |
I always say that. But we have to learn lessons from these kind of tragedies | 0:16:37 | 0:16:43 | |
to make sure we don't make the same mistake and the lesson in this case is that you follow the code. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:49 | |
This building was not according to the code. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
Professor Astaneh claims that many of the hundreds trapped above the impact zone could have escaped | 0:16:54 | 0:17:00 | |
if there had been substantial walls around the emergency staircases. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
The allegations are totally refuted by the Twin Towers' structural engineer Leslie Robertson. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:10 | |
It's preposterous. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
Those walls were stronger and more airtight than walls used in the past. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:18 | |
I know of no case in the World Trade Center where the structural design | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
did not exceed the requirements of the building code of New York. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
There's a lot of misinformation out there and, not only that, these are extremely complex issues. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:34 | |
10 years on, memories of that day remain tragic and disturbing. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:40 | |
It was the people inside that then and now are still in my... in my mind, in my sleep. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:49 | |
But if there was a government conspiracy, what could possibly be the motive? | 0:17:56 | 0:18:02 | |
You're asking how could government get in a mindset to kill 3,000 Americans. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:07 | |
It's rogue criminal groups within it that make trillions off war, trillions off oil they're seizing. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:13 | |
They want to control that key Central Asian/Middle East area | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
that strategists say is absolutely essential to dominate the world. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
It's claimed 9/11 was part of an elaborate plot by President Bush to provoke war in Iraq | 0:18:23 | 0:18:30 | |
and Afghanistan to secure long-term oil supplies, but also to remake America. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:36 | |
It was a violent and aggressive seizure of power and transformation of both foreign and domestic policy. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:43 | |
It was an American coup. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
# We saw the towers fall... # | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
Look at all the things they've done - spy on their own citizens, torture civilians as enemy combatants. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:57 | |
Would we be where we are right now without 9/11? | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
The internet has provided the place to search for clues | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
and also the place to meet and speculate. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
One of the first net-based conspiracy groups was set up by the man who lives here. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:16 | |
This is my favourite part of the house. I have an office here where I conduct my radio shows | 0:19:16 | 0:19:22 | |
and my vanity library of my own authored and edited books. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:27 | |
Here I have about 10% of what I was able to retrieve when I retired. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:32 | |
The history of science, philosophy of science, a lot of books on JFK and his assassination | 0:19:32 | 0:19:39 | |
which is another area of research. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
Jim Fetzer set up Scholars for 9/11 Truth, | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
an organisation for other like-minded academics. He's a retired Professor of Philosophy | 0:19:46 | 0:19:52 | |
and former Marine Corps officer. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
We all took an oath | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:03 | |
It is a devastating realisation to me as a former Marine Corps officer | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
that some of our enemies have indeed been domestic, rather than foreign. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
And he thinks his former masters at the US Department of Defense in the Pentagon were involved. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:19 | |
The official story says five hijackers arrived at Washington's Dulles Airport. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:27 | |
They checked in for American Airlines Flight 77, bound for California. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:33 | |
Not long into the flight, the hijackers overpowered the crew | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
and turned the plane back towards the capital. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
Minutes later, a huge explosion rocked the Pentagon | 0:20:46 | 0:20:51 | |
killing all 64 people in the aircraft along with 125 military and civilians on the ground. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:58 | |
Loose Change claims there is little evidence of a commercial passenger plane. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:07 | |
A Boeing 757 is 155 feet long, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
44 feet high, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
has a 124-foot wingspan and weighs almost 100 tonnes. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
And it disappeared into this hole without leaving any substantial wreckage on the outside. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:29 | |
Some argue it was something much smaller, like this pilotless drone or a missile. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:39 | |
That also explains, they say, the difficult manoeuvre approaching the Pentagon. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:45 | |
The first photographs taken just minutes after the crash show a hole about 18-20 feet across | 0:21:45 | 0:21:52 | |
at its narrowest point. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
Minutes later, the facade of the building collapsed. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
The plane's fuselage was 12 feet wide. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
The evidence that is very clear is that no Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:09 | |
There's no debris, no damage to the lawn. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
I expect Tiger to show up and practise his putting. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
The FBI has released some video of the attack on the Pentagon. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:23 | |
It comes from two low-quality security cameras. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
Slowed down, something can be seen entering on the far right of this frame | 0:22:29 | 0:22:34 | |
just before the explosion, but it's not conclusive. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:39 | |
The second camera, analysed in detail by computer animators, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:44 | |
appears to show a plane and smoke in slightly more detail here, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:49 | |
but again it's not definitive. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
There are calls for the FBI to release more video. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
Critics have focused instead on pictures that don't show wreckage. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
We have photographs of the hit point. You do not have a massive pile of debris, | 0:23:03 | 0:23:08 | |
you don't find the wings, you don't find the bodies, seats or the tail, all of which should be present. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:16 | |
But we don't have to rely on poor-quality video. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
There are eye witnesses. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
Allyn Kilsheimer is a leading structural engineer who saw the damage and later was | 0:23:26 | 0:23:33 | |
-one of the first to see inside the Pentagon. -I walked around the corner | 0:23:33 | 0:23:38 | |
and all hell was breaking loose. Fire, smoke and water everyplace. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:43 | |
When I got to what I call the impact area, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
it was pretty obvious that that was where the plane had entered. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:51 | |
Purdue University has built a computer model to show how the damage inside the Pentagon | 0:23:51 | 0:23:57 | |
is likely to have happened. And it matches what this structural engineer saw | 0:23:57 | 0:24:03 | |
when he went into the building. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
It blew out a bunch of columns. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
And then as it went through, the fuel exploded more and more. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:16 | |
There were all these explosions that went out from where the plane was. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:21 | |
That's why there's a big, round hole, because the explosive forces made the round hole. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:29 | |
This is where what was left of the plane broke out of the building, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:35 | |
but it was the explosive force of the jet fuel, not a bomb, that did the damage. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:40 | |
I walked through the building and saw dead bodies. OK? | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
Where were those people, the conspiracy...? They weren't there. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
And he saw plenty of evidence inside of a passenger plane. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
What I saw at the time was pieces of metal, green colour mainly, some aluminium colour, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:04 | |
a lot of which were melted. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
We later found portions of uniformed people | 0:25:06 | 0:25:11 | |
that had, um, airline uniforms on. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
Then much time later the black box was found and I saw the black box. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
A simple memorial now marks the route the aircraft took | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
and commemorates the 184 murder victims. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
A key eye witness has now come forward. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
She arrived within an hour of the crash and took charge | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
as every piece of evidence was collected and catalogued by the FBI's Evidence Response Team. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:51 | |
We set up line searches and cleared the area | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
surrounding the outside of the Pentagon. There were definitely pieces of metal from the aeroplane, | 0:25:57 | 0:26:04 | |
some with the red and white lettering of American Airlines' colouring. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:09 | |
We actually had... | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
..these large, wooden crates built specifically to hold the aeroplane parts. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:20 | |
The FBI retains this section of the plane in its distinctive American Airlines livery. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:28 | |
I personally collected the remains of victims that came from the plane. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:34 | |
And DNA and fingerprint evidence was conducted by a lab | 0:26:34 | 0:26:39 | |
that absolutely confirms that they were victims from American Airlines 77. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:44 | |
Every year, she visits the memorial and she's concerned about the effect the conspiracy theories are having. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:54 | |
I would hope that people would see what actually happened. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:03 | |
And remember the victims from that day. They are the true people that should be remembered. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:10 | |
It's... | 0:27:12 | 0:27:13 | |
..unfair to their families and their friends to have these theories continuing on. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:21 | |
I mean, it basically belittles | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
these people's lives. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
It makes them...appear that they didn't ever exist. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:31 | |
As Flight AA77 descended in a wide turn over the capital and lined up on its target, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:39 | |
there was a military C-130 plane like this one | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
flying above Washington. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
It's suggested the C-130 was a control vehicle and part of the conspiracy. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:53 | |
It's very strange this debris, which was not present after the crash - you had this clear, clean lawn - | 0:27:53 | 0:27:59 | |
starts showing up later. You can't have enlisted men rushing out to plant the debris. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:05 | |
If it's trickling down from the air, however, it might seem like a natural phenomenon. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:11 | |
I believe it was actually, in all probability, put out from the C-130. I believe that was its role. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:17 | |
Whether the officer in charge was aware that that's what he was doing is another question. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:22 | |
This is that aircraft. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
Here's the chart of the Washington, DC, area... | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
And this is the pilot. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
We departed out of Andrews and climbed to 3,000 feet, which took us by the south side. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:40 | |
Lt Colonel O'Brien was on a routine flight, but as he flew over central Washington, | 0:28:40 | 0:28:45 | |
air traffic control reported an unidentified jet fast approaching on his left-hand side. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:52 | |
'Six miles south-east of the White House. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
'Six miles south-east of the White House?' | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
It had that distinctive silver finish. In our minds it was definitely American Airlines. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:07 | |
And as he moved | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
to our 11 o'clock position, he started his turn. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
By the time he got to our 12 o'clock position, right out at the front, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:18 | |
he was rolled up into about, I would estimate, 30-40 degrees of bank, which is considerable. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:24 | |
And then all of a sudden we saw this big explosion. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
I keyed the mic again and said, "Washington, that aeroplane has hit the west side of the Pentagon." | 0:29:33 | 0:29:39 | |
Later, when Steve O'Brien was back home in Minnesota, he found himself | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
-at the centre of a conspiracy theory. -Not having ever been part of a major event like this before, | 0:29:43 | 0:29:50 | |
you're somewhat detached, but when you're a witness to it, it's a lot more personal. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:56 | |
And concerning to me that people would think that I would have the ability to do something | 0:29:56 | 0:30:03 | |
or want to do something like this. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
So it's a little bit disconcerting, but, at the same time, | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
it gives you another insight into how wrong a lot of these conspiracies are, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:16 | |
but yet they continue and take on a life of their own, so to speak. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:21 | |
Now a new theory has evolved about a third huge skyscraper that was destroyed on 9/11, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:34 | |
but this one was not hit by a plane. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
World Trade Center 7 has become the focus for conspiracy theories. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:43 | |
The New York City Command Centre for Civil Emergencies was based here. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:50 | |
The Secret Service, Pentagon and the CIA all had offices in the building. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:54 | |
Some argue that's just too suspicious. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
The official explanation is that it collapsed because of uncontrolled fires that burned for 7 hours. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:15 | |
But if that is the case, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
this is the first time a steel-framed skyscraper has collapsed because of fire. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:23 | |
Now a retired Danish chemistry professor thinks he has discovered | 0:31:30 | 0:31:35 | |
the smoking gun that will unlock the biggest conspiracy ever perpetrated. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:41 | |
Three high-rises, only two airliners. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
You don't have to have a PhD in physics to count to three, OK? | 0:31:45 | 0:31:50 | |
So what happened to Building 7, | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
which was roughly a little less than half the height of the Twin Towers? | 0:31:53 | 0:31:58 | |
It collapsed on its own, seven hours after the North Tower. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
And the way it came down indicates that it was a controlled explosion. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:07 | |
There is no way a steel-framed high-riser | 0:32:07 | 0:32:12 | |
can come down due to fire. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
The official investigators said the building had collapsed at near freefall for about two seconds. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:24 | |
It's argued only explosives could make it collapse so quickly. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:31 | |
These buildings were definitely brought down by demolition charges. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:39 | |
The collapse of Building 7 here looks similar. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
Building 7 is coming down in freefall. Obviously a controlled demolition. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:49 | |
He worked alongside Professor Steven Jones in the USA, analysing dust found in downtown Manhattan. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:58 | |
They focused on a number of tiny red and grey chips. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
They're red on one side and grey on the other side. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:08 | |
The red side is interesting because it shows all the signs | 0:33:08 | 0:33:13 | |
of being a thermitic material. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
Thermite burns at 2,000 degrees Celsius and melts metal. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:21 | |
The military use it to disable artillery. It's not known to have ever been used to destroy buildings. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:27 | |
Professor Harrit thinks there's evidence that tons of thermite were planted in the WTC buildings | 0:33:27 | 0:33:34 | |
and that both incendiaries and explosives were used. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
When you heat the chips up, they take off, they react. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:42 | |
I will not call it an explosion, but they react violently and show | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
all the characteristics of a thermite reaction. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
-What's been the reaction of scientists to your conclusions? -None. None. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:56 | |
It is beyond doubt the best peer paper ever in my career. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:02 | |
I would like to know how many times it has been downloaded, how many people have actually read it. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:08 | |
Nobody has challenged the conclusions. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
Steel City. Pittsburgh, USA. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
Home to world-leading research on iron and steel. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
We asked two experts at Carnegie Mellon University to look at Prof Harrit's published theory. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:32 | |
If you showed me | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
a pile of dust, I could find almost anything in there, but not in a large quantity. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:42 | |
1.2 million tonnes of building materials were pulverised. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:48 | |
The US Geological Survey took 38 dust samples. Later, the research group RJ Lee | 0:34:48 | 0:34:55 | |
took about 100,000 samples and analysed them all thoroughly. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
Professor Harrit and his colleagues rely on four samples. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
They selected the particles they wanted to examine and then made the most dramatic verdict. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:10 | |
They concluded that it was a highly energetic material. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:15 | |
And on a kilogram basis, | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
it gives off less energy than burning paper. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:24 | |
His colleague, Professor Pistorius, thinks there may be a simpler explanation. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:34 | |
-They found bits of paint, I think. -Paint? -Yes. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
It is not unusual to use as a primer | 0:35:39 | 0:35:44 | |
or an intermediate coat of paint | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
pigments of things like micaceous iron oxide, which is a flaky kind of iron oxide, | 0:35:47 | 0:35:53 | |
and aluminium, which is what they found. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
The Danish chemist, Niels Harrit, and his colleagues have looked at one primer paint from the WTC. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:05 | |
They say it doesn't match their mysterious red/grey chips. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:10 | |
Any large structure like what the World Trade Center was would have lots of coatings on it. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:17 | |
The interior coatings, these red and grey layers, | 0:36:17 | 0:36:22 | |
they are typical for paint from structural steelwork. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
This type of primer is painted all over the Manhattan Bridge to protect the steel cables. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:35 | |
And the temperature at which the red/grey chips start to react | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
is exactly what you would expect from this type of paint. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:45 | |
So why has Professor Harrit's theory gone unchallenged? | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
This is how science works. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
A hypothesis is correct until proven wrong. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:57 | |
So nobody has bothered to take the time to do this. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:02 | |
It doesn't mean it's right. It just hasn't been proven wrong. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
There are lots of reasons why nobody would take the time. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:11 | |
It's frankly, I think, irrelevant. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
It...it would be fairly easy to rebut, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
but everybody's got more interesting things to do, I think. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
There's something wrong here. If you have seen Building 7, there's no way back. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:29 | |
So you can try to cheat on yourself or you can speak up and live with dignity. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:37 | |
For the 9/11 truth movement, the fate of the fourth hijacked plane | 0:37:41 | 0:37:46 | |
is clear evidence of a government cover-up. There were 44 people on United Flight 93. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:53 | |
According to the official account, the passengers tried to seize back control of the aircraft, | 0:37:53 | 0:37:59 | |
but as they fought their way into the cockpit, the hijackers crashed in rural Pennsylvania. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:04 | |
-'United 93. Have you got information on that yet? -Yeah, he's down. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:09 | |
-'He's down?! -Yes. -Where did he land because we have confirmation... | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
-'He did not land. -Oh, he's down?' | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
That crater they show me looks like no aircraft crash I've ever seen in my life. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:21 | |
We know F-16s are in the area. My government sources, high level, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
have even identified the squadron that was involved | 0:38:25 | 0:38:30 | |
in the shoot down of Flight 93. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
And then you say, "Wait. I thought there was a stand down." | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
Don't edit this. The point is the generals did not follow orders and ordered the shoot down Flight 93. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:43 | |
It's argued the Boeing started to disintegrate in mid-air | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
after being hit by a missile, | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
so only part of the plane crashed in this crater. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
There have been reports of debris being found miles from this site. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:59 | |
Ten years on, a new memorial is being built to commemorate the people who lost their lives | 0:39:00 | 0:39:06 | |
when United 93 crashed. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:10 | |
And this is where it was reported that wreckage was found. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
There was talk of parts of a wing and an engine. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:18 | |
If debris had been recovered here, it would provide strong evidence | 0:39:18 | 0:39:23 | |
to support the conspiracy theory because, it's claimed, | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
Indian Lake is nearly 7 miles from the crash site. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:30 | |
Journalists and 9/11 investigators came up with the distance by typing the two locations in search engines | 0:39:30 | 0:39:37 | |
and used the result in their articles - | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
6.9 miles. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
It does seem to check out. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
But the road goes the long way round. In a straight line, it's just over a mile from the crash site | 0:39:46 | 0:39:54 | |
and the wind was blowing in that direction on September 11th. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
OK. Don't go too fast and we won't get too cold. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:04 | |
Local residents heard the crash and soon after watched debris come down on the lake. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:11 | |
Debris was floating through the air. This was on the ground. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
Pieces similar to this. Nothing of any size. Just small pieces. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:21 | |
-And no large parts of an engine or wings? -No. -Not at all. We had nothing of that. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:27 | |
It was just scraps of paper and insulation that had blown here on the wind. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:34 | |
On the internet and in the media, the story that it was actually much more than this, | 0:40:38 | 0:40:44 | |
that it was heavy debris, circulated unchecked for years. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
I'm not so sure that we'll ever be able to totally dispel | 0:40:53 | 0:40:58 | |
all of the opinions and rumours that have come from this. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:03 | |
You think it will go on being talked about and speculated over for years, decades? | 0:41:03 | 0:41:08 | |
I think there are people that will never change their minds on it | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
because there's no way to really truly prove it | 0:41:12 | 0:41:16 | |
because 92% or 93% of the remains of the aircraft | 0:41:16 | 0:41:21 | |
and the people are still in that hole. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:26 | |
So how could a passenger plane disappear into such a small crater? | 0:41:26 | 0:41:31 | |
This whole thing is stage-managed. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
There's no evidence, no massive debris, no tail, no wings. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:38 | |
Not even luggage or bodies there. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
The internet carries quotes from the local coroner that appear to support this conspiracy theory. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:47 | |
I said I stopped being a coroner after about 20 minutes | 0:41:52 | 0:41:56 | |
because it was perfectly clear what the cause and manner of death was. It was a plane crash, but a homicide, | 0:41:56 | 0:42:03 | |
because the terrorists hijacked the plane and killed the people! And the terrorists committed suicide. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:09 | |
-That was a misquote. -Yes, it was a misquote because the point I was trying to make was | 0:42:09 | 0:42:15 | |
after that it more or less became a large funeral service. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:20 | |
Wally Miller can say whatever he wants, | 0:42:20 | 0:42:24 | |
but look at the crater in Shanksville. Physical evidence. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
We've talked to the people who were there, to Wally Miller, the local coroner... | 0:42:27 | 0:42:33 | |
-Who went public four times and said he didn't see any drops of bodies. -He said that. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:38 | |
-He said it seemed as if the plane let its passengers off beforehand. -Exactly. And that was a simile. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:45 | |
He was talking that it looked as if that had happened, as if someone had taken a scrap truck, dug a ditch | 0:42:45 | 0:42:51 | |
and dumped trash in it, but he didn't mean that literally. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
-He was saying it as a simile. -The fact is if a 757 had crashed there, loaded with fuel and passengers, | 0:42:55 | 0:43:02 | |
we'd have a lot more than a 20-foot crater. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
If there's a fringe of people out there that want to try to make something out of it that isn't, | 0:43:06 | 0:43:12 | |
I don't have any control over that. That's what makes our country great. You do whatever you want to do. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:18 | |
You sound very phlegmatic about it. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
I don't know that there's a lot you can do. I'm not going to get coronary artery disease over it. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:26 | |
Photographs taken at the crash site tell their own story. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:31 | |
But in the face of this, some still question the official account. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:38 | |
They believe that United 93 could have landed somewhere else entirely | 0:43:39 | 0:43:43 | |
and the passengers abducted. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
The whole business with the people is very strange. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:50 | |
It looks as though this was some kind of elaborate charade. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:56 | |
You have another story about 93 that it landed at Cleveland | 0:43:56 | 0:44:00 | |
and went to a distant airport and over 200 passengers were offloaded from this plane. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:06 | |
Even the Mayor came out and was interviewed by ABC. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:10 | |
It's true that a passenger jet was diverted to Cleveland, Ohio, that morning | 0:44:11 | 0:44:16 | |
after reports that it might have been hijacked, but it wasn't United 93. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:21 | |
It was a Delta Airlines flight and this woman was on it. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:26 | |
Delta 1989 took off from Boston, the same airport where two other jets were hijacked. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:32 | |
It was also bound for the West Coast on the same air corridor as United 93. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:38 | |
When that plane was hijacked and deviated from its flight path, | 0:44:38 | 0:44:42 | |
air traffic controllers mistakenly thought they were dealing with a Delta plane. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:48 | |
The air traffic controller Colin Scoggins was at Boston centre through all the confusion. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:56 | |
'Another one!' | 0:44:56 | 0:44:58 | |
There was no Delta 89. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:01 | |
A Delta 1989 was not hijacked, | 0:45:01 | 0:45:04 | |
I was incorrect when I made that call, but at that time anything that looked like a hijack | 0:45:04 | 0:45:10 | |
we were treating as a hijack. If you missed a frequency transfer you were considered hijacked. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:16 | |
That happened with Delta 1989. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:18 | |
-'Delta 1989 is a hijack...' -Thinking it had been hijacked, | 0:45:18 | 0:45:22 | |
air traffic control ordered the Delta to land immediately. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:27 | |
'Another one!' | 0:45:27 | 0:45:30 | |
Suddenly, the captain came on and announced, "Ladies and gentlemen, | 0:45:31 | 0:45:36 | |
"I regret to tell you we're going to have to make an emergency landing in Cleveland." | 0:45:36 | 0:45:41 | |
And then the Mayor of Cleveland | 0:45:41 | 0:45:44 | |
was holding a press conference to say we were hijacked and they might blow up our plane. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:50 | |
'At this moment we have a Boeing 767 in a secure area of Hopkins International Airport. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:58 | |
'The initial reports were that this plane was hijacked | 0:45:59 | 0:46:04 | |
'and there was a bomb on it.' | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
It was soon realised that the Delta plane was in the clear. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:11 | |
Local TV rapidly corrected their earlier misleading reports. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:15 | |
We do now know that plane was not hijacked. It was diverted here. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:19 | |
But the original inaccurate news reports have continued to echo around conspiracy chat rooms | 0:46:19 | 0:46:25 | |
and websites ever since. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:28 | |
It's very clear what the facts were. I know - I was on that flight. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:32 | |
This is my very boarding pass. It's hard for people to accept a simple or more elaborate explanation. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:39 | |
There has to be something more than that. It's hard for people to believe | 0:46:39 | 0:46:44 | |
that something this well done, frankly, could be just the product | 0:46:44 | 0:46:49 | |
of a few al-Qaeda members. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:52 | |
I think they just find that they have to have some other explanation | 0:46:52 | 0:46:57 | |
and then it becomes whispered down the alley. That's what we say. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:01 | |
One person will say one thing, then it gets repeated and distorted and the distortion gets repeated | 0:47:01 | 0:47:08 | |
and it just goes on and on and on. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:10 | |
There's one place where conspiracy theories are eagerly embraced. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:17 | |
As a storyteller, I've thought a lot about conspiracies. I love them in fiction. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:26 | |
They're very powerful and appealing. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:29 | |
Creating myths is one of the oldest activities of man. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:33 | |
You can see them on the caves of early man. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:37 | |
Depictions of myths that were important to them. We need them to make sense of the world. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:43 | |
Frank Spotnitz became the subject of a conspiracy theory himself | 0:47:47 | 0:47:52 | |
because of a film he made six months before 9/11. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:56 | |
It tells the story of a government conspiracy to hijack a plane from Boston and fly it into the WTC | 0:47:56 | 0:48:02 | |
as a pretext for a war in the Middle East. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:07 | |
They could crash the plane into the World Trade Center. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:11 | |
-Only, this being Hollywood, disaster is averted at the very last moment. -We've got manual override. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:17 | |
There was some theory that we had done this to prepare the ground | 0:48:24 | 0:48:28 | |
so people would be ready when this happened. It doesn't quite make much sense to me. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:34 | |
We live in the age of anxiety and this is one of the prime components - we don't know who to trust. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:40 | |
It's very appealing and powerful because it's like having the magic key | 0:48:40 | 0:48:46 | |
that fits all these pieces together and opens the door. "Oh, that's what's going on! What a relief | 0:48:46 | 0:48:53 | |
"to know this is what's going on." It relieves your anxiety in a strange way. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:58 | |
No matter how, um...disturbing the conspiracy theory may be, | 0:48:58 | 0:49:03 | |
it's still an answer in a world that doesn't offer many answers. | 0:49:03 | 0:49:07 | |
If the government tells you the world is flat and you don't agree, you're a conspiracy theorist. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:16 | |
Today conspiracy theory is the heresy, but they've used that so much, it doesn't work any more. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:23 | |
Alex Jones is tapping into a rich vein of cynicism about America's leaders. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:29 | |
His listeners have little trust in government because they've been misled before. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:34 | |
I love my country, I fear my government. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
So I'm one of those guys that follows what the Founding Fathers, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, said | 0:49:37 | 0:49:43 | |
and I think I'm in good company not trusting government, | 0:49:43 | 0:49:48 | |
especially with the long history of governments lying. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:52 | |
There can be no whitewash... at the White House. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:57 | |
I did not have sexual relations with that woman. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:05 | |
The danger to our country is growing. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
The Iraqi regime possesses biological and chemical weapons. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:13 | |
When you can't trust your leaders, that creates anxiety and fear. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:18 | |
People want to know what to believe, understandably. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
And if you can't trust the official leaders of your government, where do you turn? | 0:50:21 | 0:50:27 | |
Nearly ten years on, the US military wrote what they hoped would be the final chapter of 9/11. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:36 | |
An audacious helicopter mission carried US Navy Seals into the heart of Pakistan. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:43 | |
They'd finally tracked the man responsible. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:47 | |
Osama Bin Laden was shot dead and his body buried at sea, | 0:50:48 | 0:50:54 | |
but in the absence of photographs, critics have questioned whether he was really killed there and then. | 0:50:54 | 0:51:00 | |
It's utterly astonishing that we should be able to kill a man | 0:51:03 | 0:51:07 | |
who actually died nine years earlier than this fantasy event in Pakistan. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:12 | |
I guess I should have looked in my freezer because I participated in the CIA activities | 0:51:13 | 0:51:19 | |
to hunt for Bin Laden, so we must have had thousands of people | 0:51:19 | 0:51:23 | |
in a conspiracy not only to hunt for the guy when he was dead, | 0:51:23 | 0:51:27 | |
but to keep it secret for nine years. I did not see one secret | 0:51:27 | 0:51:33 | |
when I was at CIA that hasn't found the light of day. Not one. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:37 | |
But is there a story where the evidence stacks up against the government? | 0:51:38 | 0:51:43 | |
The FBI and CIA insist they had no specific warnings of the hijackings on 9/11, | 0:51:43 | 0:51:49 | |
but it seems they did have important intelligence about al-Qaeda before the attacks. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:55 | |
January, 2000. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:02 | |
Two terrorists arrive in California from the Far East. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:06 | |
Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar were known to be active members of an al-Qaeda cell. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:13 | |
But it didn't arouse any suspicions when the smartly-dressed young men | 0:52:14 | 0:52:19 | |
presented their passports at Immigration. Their names had not been added to the watch list | 0:52:19 | 0:52:25 | |
for terrorist suspects. al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar were allowed on their way unchallenged. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:31 | |
Welcome to Los Angeles International Airport. Please keep your personal belongings with you at all times. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:39 | |
They soon moved into a San Diego suburb and lived openly | 0:52:39 | 0:52:43 | |
under their real names. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
They had come on a mission. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
And this is where they learnt to fly. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:58 | |
At about the same time, a CIA cable confirmed that one of them was in the country, | 0:52:58 | 0:53:03 | |
but this lead wasn't passed on to the FBI. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:07 | |
So, at the time, the local FBI didn't know they were here. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:13 | |
We're just coming up here on the apartments where the two hijackers lived, | 0:53:16 | 0:53:23 | |
over here on my left. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:25 | |
Not fancy apartments by US standards. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:29 | |
This is where they lived. Later, they moved on to the doorstep of the Feds. Literally. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:36 | |
They rented rooms from an FBI informant, but he suspected nothing. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:40 | |
What's more, one of the terrorists was actually listed in the San Diego phone book. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:47 | |
I think we could have identified some of these potential hijackers before September 11th. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:54 | |
It's very frustrating to me personally, | 0:53:54 | 0:53:58 | |
It's very frustrating to everybody | 0:53:58 | 0:54:01 | |
that worked on it so hard here in the FBI in San Diego. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:05 | |
I think everybody has to ask themselves, "Was there something that could have saved 3,000 lives?" | 0:54:06 | 0:54:12 | |
That's in the forefront of everybody's mind. It still hurts. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:17 | |
Whilst the two terrorists were learning to fly, intelligence was streaming in to the FBI | 0:54:18 | 0:54:24 | |
that al-Qaeda could be planning an attack. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:28 | |
By the spring of 2001, the system was blinking red, according to intelligence chiefs. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:35 | |
But there was nothing specific for the FBI to go on. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:39 | |
When I was in the White House, there were lots of conspiracy theories. We investigated every theory. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:44 | |
The former Chief Counter-Terrorism Adviser questions | 0:54:44 | 0:54:49 | |
whether there was a conspiracy not to make 9/11 happen, but which might have allowed 9/11 to happen. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:55 | |
I still don't have an adequate explanation as to why the CIA, | 0:54:56 | 0:55:01 | |
so many people, 60 people, | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
knew that Mihdhar and Hazmi were in the United States and didn't tell me or the FBI. That's an open book. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:12 | |
At last, 19 days before 9/11, the FBI was finally told. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:19 | |
Had the two terrorists in San Diego been arrested, | 0:55:19 | 0:55:23 | |
there was a chance that the whole plot could have been prised open, | 0:55:23 | 0:55:27 | |
but they had long moved on and disappeared. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:31 | |
CIA insiders say prior to 9/11 the focus wasn't on al-Qaeda and they were under-resourced. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:38 | |
These aren't 60 people responsible for two guys in San Diego. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:44 | |
They are 60 people responsible for a global counter-terrorism campaign, | 0:55:44 | 0:55:50 | |
so to say that those two individuals coming into this country indicates a massive intelligence failure | 0:55:50 | 0:55:56 | |
to me is entirely misleading. | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
The evidence points to intelligence mistakes before 9/11. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:04 | |
The 9/11 conspiracy theories are just that - theories. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:10 | |
The evidence doesn't support them. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:12 | |
But their authors insist they will fight on against what they see | 0:56:12 | 0:56:16 | |
as a dangerous and ruthless government conspiracy. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:20 | |
If they kill me, they'll turn me into a martyr, so the system attempts to assassinate my character | 0:56:20 | 0:56:26 | |
and to edit and misrepresent what I've said and done | 0:56:26 | 0:56:31 | |
as an attempt to assassinate the ideas that I put out, | 0:56:31 | 0:56:35 | |
but that doesn't work because ideas are bullet-proof. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:39 | |
I have no way back. If you fight, you might lose. | 0:56:47 | 0:56:51 | |
But if you don't fight, you have lost. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:55 | |
There is no way that our civilisation can continue | 0:56:55 | 0:57:00 | |
without facing these unsolved questions of 9/11. | 0:57:00 | 0:57:05 | |
Conspiracy theories, by and large, | 0:57:08 | 0:57:11 | |
are, um, they're just that. They're theories with very little substance behind them. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:17 | |
It's very upsetting to the people who cling to these beliefs. You're taking away from then a comfort. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:23 | |
It's like attacking someone's faith and offering nothing in exchange except for uncertainty. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:30 | |
The 9/11 conspiracy file seems certain to remain open for a long time to come, | 0:57:40 | 0:57:47 | |
however distressing and painful that will be for the families of those who died that day. | 0:57:47 | 0:57:53 | |
'United 93, do you still hear Cleveland? | 0:58:00 | 0:58:04 | |
'United 93, United Niner-Three, do you hear Cleveland? | 0:58:06 | 0:58:10 | |
'United 93, United 93... | 0:58:13 | 0:58:16 | |
'United 93, United 93, do you hear Cleveland Centre? | 0:58:18 | 0:58:23 | |
'United 93, United Niner-Three...' | 0:58:23 | 0:58:25 | |
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