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This programme contains strong language. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
HMP Pentonville in London is one of Britain's toughest prisons. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
Over a whole year, for the first time on television, | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
the BBC has followed repeat offenders inside jail... | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
You bastards! | 0:00:19 | 0:00:20 | |
..outside on release... | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
Freedom! | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
..and even back inside again. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
As mad as it sounds, | 0:00:28 | 0:00:29 | |
I felt happy when I come back to jail. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
Mick is stuck in a cycle of homelessness and petty offending. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:37 | |
The only way I can survive outside for longer than Friday | 0:00:37 | 0:00:42 | |
is to commit crime. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:43 | |
This is where we live, cos at least we're under the shelter there... | 0:00:43 | 0:00:48 | |
Senol wants to put a violent past behind him. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
Armed robbery, burglary, | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
offensive weapons, and that sort of stuff. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
But life in prison is easier to cope with than life outside. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
You're not helping me, Dan. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
I've come out of jail, man. I want to stop drinking. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
I need help. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:08 | |
Half of prisoners from Britain's jails reoffend within one year. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:13 | |
Each one has their own story. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
7,500 offenders come in and out of Pentonville every year. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:33 | |
Affray, criminal damage. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
Norman, on the left hand side, me old mate. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
Mick Norman is a regular. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:39 | |
He's 43 and has 119 offences on his record, | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
most linked to crack and heroin use. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
-Norman. -Norman? | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
This time he's inside for stealing bottles of spirits, | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
which he sells for cash. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
Right now, Mick would rather be locked up in Pentonville than free. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
In here I'm safe, I'm clean and sober, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
I've got a bed, my food's here, I've got a job, I've got tobacco, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
I've got friends, I've got staff I know. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
Out there I'm living at the bottom of a block of flats in a bin shed. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
No money. I've got no ID, so I'm not claiming. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
All I need is... | 0:02:20 | 0:02:21 | |
..a cuddle, you know? | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
That's all I want, someone to say it'll be all right, you know? | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
It ain't going to be like that, is it? | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
so my safest place is Pentonville. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
Staff do try to prepare repeat offenders for release, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
but every day there are more urgent challenges to face | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
from Pentonville's many difficult and dangerous inmates. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:49 | |
JP... anyone in Healthcare got a radio, please? Out. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:54 | |
Today's duty governor has to deal with a mentally disturbed prisoner | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
who's refusing to take his medication. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
He's incredibly aggressive and won't even entertain any staff | 0:03:00 | 0:03:05 | |
attempting to help him, which is when we see him spitting at staff | 0:03:05 | 0:03:10 | |
and punching staff and throwing things, and he secretes weapons | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
to try and use against the staff, so it's very, very tricky. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
A team is taken away from normal duties | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
and sent to the Healthcare wing, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
just to make sure the prisoner gets the treatment he needs. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
He's very, very volatile. Even if he is compliant at first, | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
please remain on your guard, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
because he does have a history of staff assaults. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
Keep your shields down, cos he spits. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
Officers must give the prisoner every chance to comply | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
but make sure they are protected if he hits out. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
Keep going. One more step. Keep to the left. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
Take some steps to the left. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
Again. Again. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
Wait there. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
Put your left hand down the base of your back. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
Good man. And now the right. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
Well done. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:19 | |
Since he refuses medication, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
staff must manoeuvre him into a position | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
where it can be safely administered. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
Walk out. Walk out. Walk out. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
On A Wing, another new arrival. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
Senol Bicer is 36. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
Take a seat. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:03 | |
He's been in and out of jail since he was a teenager | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
for robbery, burglary and assault. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
-Have you been here before? -Yeah. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
-When was the last time you were here? -Last year. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
What's your offence? | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
Offensive weapon, a lock knife. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
-Possession of offensive weapon, yeah? -Yeah. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
He's hoping a spell inside can set him straight. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
'Well, I'm 36, so realistically, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
'I've done 22 years of my life in jail.' | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
Outside, it's hard, because you've got this to do... | 0:05:33 | 0:05:38 | |
It's hard. When you come to prison, it's easy. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
Do you know what I mean? | 0:05:42 | 0:05:43 | |
Like, you've got your telly, you've got your kettle, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
you've got your meals three times a day... | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
You know what I mean? It's easy. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
You've got no bills to pay, no nothing. Do you know what I mean? | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
So that's how it is. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
I wanted to come to prison today, do you know what I mean? | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
Because it's too much for me out there, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
because I'm an ex-heroin addict and an alcoholic, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:07 | |
so for me to come to prison, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
it helps me come out clean, you know what I mean? | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
That's why I'm here, cos I want to give myself a break and... | 0:06:13 | 0:06:19 | |
you know? | 0:06:19 | 0:06:20 | |
Outside prison, Senol has fallen out with his fiancee. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
He wants his mum to contact her. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
Did you speak to Nina? | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
And what she say? | 0:06:31 | 0:06:32 | |
We can start again, Mum. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
Just tell her that we can start again, and... | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
You know what I mean, Mum? | 0:06:36 | 0:06:37 | |
Yeah, but Mum, I still love her and that, you know what I mean? | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
I'm going to go, right. Do what I asked you. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
Just tell her that I love her, | 0:06:44 | 0:06:45 | |
and tell her to write me a letter so that I know what's happening. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
Senol will be in Pentonville for two months. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
On C Wing, staff are monitoring a prisoner | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
who is creating a major disturbance. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
LOUD BANGING | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
We have a chap on here, Mr Kieran. He's been here for several weeks, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:12 | |
-he's... -BANGING CONTINUES | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
-That's him now. -That's him now, yeah. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
He's going home in the next few days, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
but he seems to be getting maybe anxious about that as well. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
The prisoner will be let out of his cell to get his lunch, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
but Principal Officer Bartley has concerns. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
He's been banging his door, he's quite irate, he's asking, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
making demands about all manner of things. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
If it comes to a restraint, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
then I expect three officers to be doing the restraint | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
and Mr Lawrence to oversee it. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
SCREAMING | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
Outside the servery, the prisoner has thrown a plate of food | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
at another inmate and officers are forced to restrain him. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
OK, relax. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:55 | |
SCREAMING CONTINUES | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
Release your right arm. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:03 | |
You bastards! | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
Right, stand him up. Stand him up. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
SCREAMING CONTINUES | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
Right, OK. Mr Lawrence. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
Right, OK. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
Just nice and easy. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:22 | |
I'm going to take you to the segregation unit now. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
You're going to give me a right kicking, aren't you? | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
No, not at all. Not at all. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:27 | |
Down in the segregation unit, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
Sean Kieran will be searched, then led to a cell. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
He is nearing the end of a short sentence for a drunken fight. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
After two hours, Sean is calm enough to explain | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
his fears about leaving jail. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
He has a drink problem and suffers from depression, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
and he's wanted more help from the prison. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
What's worrying you about getting out? | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
'I've got a lot to not look forward to. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
'I'm probably going to lose my flat. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
'I don't know if the gas and electricity's on.' | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
One thing I'd been given help for in the past was about utility bills, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:13 | |
getting in touch with gas and electricity people | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
to say, you know, "Yo, I'm in prison." | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
And this time round it's been like I've been asking for someone | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
to amputate an arm off themselves. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
The point is I'm an alcoholic, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
and I've been trying my best to stop drinking. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
And I'm terrified of going out, picking up, as I threatened to do, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
a bottle of Jack Daniel's and this time chugging it | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
like it was just water and to hell with the consequences. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
In here you can stay clean and sober. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
Yeah, exactly, but once you're out in the real world, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
it's a different matter. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:47 | |
I'd get roaring drunk and end up dead somehow, under a car. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:52 | |
Someone kill me, thinking I'm going to hurt them. You know. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
At Pentonville, prisoners can do courses | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
or attend education classes, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
but many are locked up 23 hours a day. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
Right, gents. Let's have you away, G wing. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
On G Wing, Mick Norman is allowed out of his cell | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
to work as a cleaner. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
'I shouldn't say it, but I have got a bit of a soft spot for Mr Norman.' | 0:10:22 | 0:10:27 | |
Norman, you know what they say, a woman's work is never done. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
I don't know what he does outside. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
Maybe he's a total pain the arse outside. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
And his victims probably would have a different thing to say about it, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
but in here, he's as good as gold. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:40 | |
Mick is currently is drug free. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
But years trapped in a cycle of prison, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
addiction and homelessness | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
have left him estranged from his family. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
Where do you stay when you go out there? | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
-Bin shed. -Awww! | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
-Unless I've got safe housing... -Yeah. -..I'm going to be back. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
I'm better off here. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
-I've got my food, I've got a bed... -Yeah. -I've got you... | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
Awww. It's a sorry state of affairs, isn't it? | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
I'm not the only one, am I? | 0:11:07 | 0:11:08 | |
You've got family outside and everything, haven't you? | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
-I don't see them. -Where are your kids? | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
With their mums, with my family. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
-I don't even see them. -Why? | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
What am I going to do? Come out of jail and say, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
"I'm back again for a couple of weeks," and piss off again? | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
I'm better off not seeing them. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:23 | |
-I ain't seen my boy for nearly two years. -How old is he? | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
He's 16, he ain't even got a mum. He lives at my mum's house. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
I've had him since he was a baby. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
How do you know that he feels like that? | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
How do you know he doesn't want you to come round? | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
It doesn't matter what he wants. My mum don't want it. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
You could write her a letter and just explain how you feel. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
I've said it all before, Miss. I've said it all before. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
Yeah, but I just don't think you can sort of give up, really. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
I just don't think... | 0:11:45 | 0:11:46 | |
I think you've just got to keep trying, basically. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
Keep trying. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
Perhaps I will. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:53 | |
My son hasn't got a mum or nothing. He's at his grandmother's house. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
I stay out of contact with him because that's better for him. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
The best thing I can do is stay away from my mum, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
cos then I'm doing the right thing by my son. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
Until I can be a responsible parent again, | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
and a productive member of society, I've got no right to be around him. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
At the moment he's safe, he's doing well at school, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
he plays music, he's a mentor for other kids. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
I'm really proud of him, but... | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
And I miss him. Don't get me wrong, I... | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
Erm... | 0:12:24 | 0:12:25 | |
He's my boy, isn't he? You know what I mean? | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
Mick will be out in just three weeks. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
Local councils seldom offer immediate housing | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
to newly released prisoners, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
so it's up to the prison's drugs support team | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
to try and find him somewhere to sleep. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
Down in segregation, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
officers deal with a dirty protest every few weeks. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
Sean Kieran has now become so desperate | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
about his imminent release that he's started one too. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
He's put shit on the observation panel, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
so there's two things there - | 0:13:08 | 0:13:09 | |
we can't see in so we can't do for his protection and his welfare, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
but we've got to see in. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
Because of the level of excrement in there, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
-we should get kitted up, yeah? -Right. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
We'll get the white suits on, cos it could end up... | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
It's all over the door. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
Gloves. Access to keys... | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
Mr Kieran, to the back of the cell. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
The rules are that dirty protesters must stay in the same cell | 0:13:39 | 0:13:44 | |
until they have ended their protest, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
so staff have to clean up around Sean Kieran. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
It's nothing we've never seen before. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
It's nothing we'll not see again. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:03 | |
We'll just see it every other day. It happens once or twice a month. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
Even if they're on a dirty protest, prisoners must be offered food. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
Right, Mr Kieran. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
Stand to the back of your cell. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:16 | |
Sean Kieran is becoming increasingly disturbed. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
-You have lost now. -What? -If I get out of here, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
I'm doing to do something really off the fucking grid. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
-All right. Stand to the back of the cell. -Fuck you. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
Fucking hard man, come in here | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
and I'll give you a fucking Glasgow kiss to lay you low. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
Dirt fucking nap! | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
You're only fucking hard with other men behind you. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
-I know you. Playground. -Yeah. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
-Thank you. -Went to the same school? | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
No. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:55 | |
It takes another day in the segregation unit | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
for Sean Kieran to bring his protest to an end. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
I freaked out... | 0:15:07 | 0:15:08 | |
..again. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:12 | |
But I'm all right now. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:15 | |
-You're all right now. -Yeah. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
So you woke up this morning and things felt better? | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
Yeah, I was thinking a lot more clearly. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
Making stupid remarks like Glasgow kisses and all that, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
you know... | 0:15:26 | 0:15:27 | |
I suppose, in a way, it's like false bravado, if you like. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
Senol has been in jail a fortnight. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
He's sobered up, and started thinking about | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
what keeps dragging him back inside. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
I know what has triggered me off to be like this. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:52 | |
When my dad passed away seven years ago this August. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
I do think about my dad, but it's hard. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
I still think my dad's at home drinking his whisky and that. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:04 | |
But he ain't. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
'That's what made me go a bit cranky.' | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
So I've got to let go, but I don't think I've let go yet. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
Though he's calmer inside prison, | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
Senol is anxious about what's going on outside. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
'Obviously I love my girl, innit? | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
'I was going to get married to her, but I don't know what's going on.' | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
She ain't even sent me a letter or nothing. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
I dunno, I'm just... I'm irritable, you know what I mean? | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
Oh, man. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
It's horrible, man. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:37 | |
'I'm worried about her. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
'I don't know if she still loves me or not, I don't know.' | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
Just have to find out, wait and see. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
I don't know. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
Mick Norman will be freed today, | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
but because his sentence is under 12 months, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
he'll have no probation officer. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
He may also have nowhere to stay, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
and weeks of delay before he can access benefits. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
The only way I can survive outside is to commit crime. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
Where am I going to sleep the night after? | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
What do I eat the day after? | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
Where do I go? What do I do? Where do I wash? | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
I'm not a street beggar, I'm a grafter. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
So I'm going to out to graft to earn me bloody money... | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
Why am I going to sleep on the street when I can go and | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
earn myself one and a half, 200 quid in a morning? | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
And I can do the same in the afternoon | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
and pay for an hotel for a week or something. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
But it's still the wrong road, isn't it? | 0:17:35 | 0:17:36 | |
The worst it can get for me is here. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
It's the worst that can happen is this, | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
and I ain't got to pay for this, have I? | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
Sad, I know, but it's true. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
Good luck. Hopefully, we won't see you soon. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
Hopefully, but I've left my bed as it is. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
No, that's not the attitude. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
Me cell's on hold for the day. | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
-I hope we don't see you back. -I won't. -Take care. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
-See you after, Miss. Thanks for everything, yeah? -See you. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
You've got £15.67 of your own money. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
We're given you £7.70 fares, £46 discharge grant. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
That's a total of £69.37. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
-You happy you've got everything? -Yes, Miss. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
Right, you going to behave yourself? | 0:18:17 | 0:18:18 | |
We won't hold our breath on that one then, eh? | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
The prison has set up a meeting for Mick at a housing charity, | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
but - even if he can tackle all the bureaucracy involved - | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
he has no guarantee of a roof over his head tonight. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
Well I'm out. So... | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
The plan is go and get my birth certificate, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
shoot to Tooting Bec, get my final assessment, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
try and get my housing benefit forms in. If they accept that, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
I might be able to get in a property today. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
If they don't and I've got to wait more than four or five days | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
to get in anywhere, I'm not prepared to stay out on the street | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
for four or five days, so I prefer to come back to Pentonville. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
So what do you think your chances of staying out of this jail | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
for the weekend are? | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
This time round, 60/40. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
60/40 in your favour? | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
Yeah. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:11 | |
It's out of my hands. I've done what I can do. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
I'll give you a call, meet you over there. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
Mick never did call. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
A few weeks later, we were to discover why. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
Sean is leaving too. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:37 | |
After getting help from the prison's addiction support team, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
he feels calm about re-entering the world outside. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
On the day of his release, | 0:19:45 | 0:19:46 | |
he even takes time to write a farewell letter. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
This is a letter for Mr Monaghan, the governor. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
"Thanks to all at the "Ville" for their tough love. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
"In no particular order of any kind..." blah blah blah... | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
"Thanks in the final analysis for looking after me. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
"Yours sincerely, peace and love, Sean Kieran." | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
So you feel you've been well looked after here? | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
Yeah, really. Because, you know... | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
..things are done for a good reason while you're here. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
You don't always understand why. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
A happy customer? | 0:20:17 | 0:20:18 | |
So to speak, yeah. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
HE SIGHS | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
Freedom! | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
Mel Gibson, Braveheart. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
Secure, yeah? Prison number? | 0:20:30 | 0:20:31 | |
Bye-bye. Peace. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
Look after yourselves, lads. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:43 | |
Despite his anxieties inside jail, Sean still has a home to go to. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:51 | |
Home again, home again, jiggedy-jig. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
'I've got lots to keep me active. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
'Keep me away from trouble.' | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
That's my, you know, release from prison to back home. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:07 | |
-So far so good? -Yep. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
Senol Bicer has been waiting for news from the woman | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
he hopes will one day be his wife. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
It's been a good week for me so far. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
I've got two letters. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
She's saying... | 0:21:29 | 0:21:30 | |
..that when I get out, we're going to start again, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:37 | |
try for a baby, get married, that sort of thing, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
so yeah, she's telling me she loves me, which is a good thing, | 0:21:41 | 0:21:46 | |
do you know what I mean? Cos I was paranoid. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
Cos when you come to prison, you do get paranoid. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
You think... like, they're doing something else out there, | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
you know what I mean? But all girls ain't the same. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
And she's even put "Nina Bicer", | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
so I'm just waiting to give her a big kiss. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
You know? A cuddle. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
Reassured, Senol now gets to work, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
and takes up some of the opportunities | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
the prison has on offer to prepare for life outside. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
No one can say I've been sitting down doing nothing. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
I'm doing things in jail, while I'm in jail. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
By the end of next month, I will be drug-free. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
I've got three certificates already. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
I've got "Change in possible"... | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
"Change IS possible", sorry. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
And I've got relaxation, and now I've got hoovering. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
That was the main one. That was my main one. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
For my drug use, you know? | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
Hopefully, you know, I'll get a job. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
Know what I mean? | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
And just live a normal life like other people, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
cos I'm fed up with this. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:56 | |
It's not me no more. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
I've done my time. I've served my time. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
Another repeat offender, Graham Shiels, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
is nearing the end of a 16 month sentence for robbery. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
Graham is 32 and has been a shoplifter for over a decade. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
He had a steady job, but gradually, crack cocaine took over. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:25 | |
I feel kind of guilty in the way that I've turned out. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
But crack's quite a powerful drug, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
and it drains your soul, kind of thing. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
I was working for a commercial artists company at the time, Korean. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
I lost my job there. I became unreliable. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
I stopped eating. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
So then I started going out shoplifting every day | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
like it was a job, kind of thing, getting up... | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
..go and hit a couple of shops, go and sell that, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
put that money in my pocket... | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
go and smoke crack. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:58 | |
Graham's just one of those people who I've probably seen him | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
coming into prison probably six, seven times | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
in the space of 18 months. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
We always have a bit of a conversation | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
about what had gone wrong for him this time. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
How many times have you been in jail, Graham? | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
About 42 times. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
Since '98, I started coming to jail, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
so it's quite a few times. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
42 times? | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
Yeah, including this time. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:29 | |
I know. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
Graham will be out of prison again in three weeks. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
This time, the authorities have him in their sights - | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
because he's a prolific offender, | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
it's a top priority to stop him committing crime. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
Senol Bicer completes his prison sentence today. | 0:24:55 | 0:25:00 | |
He leaves Pentonville sober and focused. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
Going home this morning. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
Can't wait. Can't wait. Can't wait to get out of that door. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:10 | |
Can't wait. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:11 | |
Did you sleep last night? | 0:25:11 | 0:25:12 | |
No, not really. Not really. It's hard. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
Yeah, I feel positive. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
I don't want to do what I used to do, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
come out and smoke drugs and drink and this, that and the other. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
I want to come out straight-headed | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
and, know what I mean, want to change my way now. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
Put your index finger on that red light... | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
Unlike many who walk out of these gates, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
Senol will at least have somewhere to stay - | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
with his fiancee Nina. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
You all right, babs? | 0:25:45 | 0:25:46 | |
I missed you so much. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
I missed you. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:58 | |
Oh, baby. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
In recent years, Senol has failed to stay out of jail for long. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
Now he will try again. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
Mick Norman lasted just two weeks outside jail. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:18 | |
Homeless, he shoplifted to get himself put back inside. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
But this time, he was sent to a prison | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
where he didn't feel at home, and now he's out again. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
-How are you? -Hello, Michael. I'm very well. How are you? | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
All the better for getting out of there. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
I've been all around the country, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:34 | |
-and I think it's the worst one I've been to. -Is it? -Yeah. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
Was it different from Pentonville? | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
Different, I mean you get fed Sunday lunchtime, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
you don't get another hot meal tillMonday night. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
29 hours between meals. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
Take me back to Pentonvlle. That's put me off jail. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
Put me off from coming back. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
Send everyone to Norwich! | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
Send everyone to Norwich, innit. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:53 | |
I've spent 14 and a half years, near enough, in prisons, | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
most of it on remand. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
It's a fucking long time. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:00 | |
I'm getting nowhere fast. I'm getting older, slower, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
chances of getting caught are a lot greater. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
There's cameras everywhere. I'm known. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
I'm sick of it. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
Hopefully, it's my last look at a jail. Hopefully. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:15 | |
I can't remember what fucking normal was. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
We're all mugs in prison. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
I'm a mug for being in prison. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
That's all I fucking know. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:26 | |
We all get on, we all know each other. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
I've never gone to prison... 30 odd prisons I've been to, | 0:27:28 | 0:27:33 | |
I've never walked into prison and not known someone. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
Always know someone. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:37 | |
"Hello, Mickey, how's it going, son?" | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
Same shit, different fucking day. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
I live that side of the stadium. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
They never show this side of the stadium. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
Come here and have a look. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:00 | |
£10 billion. What, and they can't find me a fucking bed? | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
This is the proper Stratford. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
That's the new stuff. Built for the image. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
This is the old stuff. Stratford centre. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
Come. Take you into my world. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
I get my breakfast over there every morning, cos it's free. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
If there's a big queue, | 0:28:18 | 0:28:19 | |
you can easily nick sandwiches and a bottle of Coca-Cola. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
Life of a shoplifter, that's what it is. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
Hey, look. I could sneak in here, walk there, I'm out of there. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
Look, look, look. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
Look. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:31 | |
Know what I'm saying? | 0:28:33 | 0:28:34 | |
There you go, there's 40 quid. I could go and get 15 quid on that. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
No-one would notice, do you know what I mean? | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
So it all depends how it works. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:41 | |
I could say today, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:48 | |
"Fuck it, I'll be all right till after Christmas." | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
Go back to Pentonville, go to Belmarsh, I'll be all right. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
Know the officers. Get on all right. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
I don't want to. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:58 | |
I've done my last day in prison, as far as I'm concerned. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
I've made me mind up. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:02 | |
Mick is homeless and has only his prison discharge grant to live on. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
But, for once, he'll now seek money and shelter the legal way. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
INAUDIBLE | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
Graham will shortly be released from prison, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
and will complete the last eight months of this sentence | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
outside in the community. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
At the local probation office, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
plans are being made to handle his release. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
Yep, Graham's coming out and we're going to take him | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
straight to Norman House. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
Kevin's coming as well, the police officer, | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
so he's going to come with us in the car. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
'He has a really poor record of compliance with probation,' | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
and he is literally a revolving door, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
where it really is catch and convict, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
catch and convict. | 0:29:57 | 0:29:58 | |
Cos he doesn't engage and he's never complied with any type of orders. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
Graham has been put on a new scheme | 0:30:03 | 0:30:05 | |
called integrated offender management | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
which targets the most prolific criminals to stop them reoffending. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:13 | |
'This is the biggest stick and the biggest carrot that he's had.' | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
Inside jail, Graham gets work experience. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
Outside, he'll have a job placement and a hostel place. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
But if he doesn't play ball, | 0:30:26 | 0:30:28 | |
probation will send him straight back to jail. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
If you reoffend, you'll be recalled till the end of your sentence. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:39 | |
-I feel different this time, I do. -Yeah. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
I don't know what it is, to say what I've done different | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
or anything like that, inside. I don't know whether it's to do with | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
maybe having been away a bit longer, | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
because in the past, prison hasn't worked for me. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:54 | |
If Graham can leave them prison gates | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
and stay clean for the first night, | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
then I'll be really, really happy with that | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
and really, also pleasantly surprised. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
Senol has been out for 11 days. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
He has got a place to stay with his fiancee, Nina, | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
but he's started drinking, and today he's been involved | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
in a serious car accident, which he can't remember. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
HE GROANS | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
I just see you bounce off the fucking bonnet, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
roll onto the top and roll off the back. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
-Mm. -All right? And I mean this kid's come quite fast, | 0:31:37 | 0:31:43 | |
I don't know what speed, but it was fast. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
People weren't...just stopping in the street, everyone's like that, | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
women are crying, holding their mouths. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
I'm screaming with blood all over my hands. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
It just seems like nothing ever fucking happens right for him, | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
do you know what I mean? | 0:32:00 | 0:32:01 | |
Like many newly-released offenders, | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
Senol is also struggling to get his first regular benefits payments. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:13 | |
-I come out of prison about 14 days ago, yeah? -Yeah. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
It was, like, I'm due my money | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
and cos my claim ain't been sorted out, Miss, | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
basically, I've had to ask people on the streets for money and that, | 0:32:22 | 0:32:28 | |
which I have been doing. They're telling me | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
I've got to go back to the Job Centre, they've paid me incorrectly. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:36 | |
They give me £36 and I've got to go back | 0:32:36 | 0:32:40 | |
to put it in writing so they can fax it over, and then... | 0:32:40 | 0:32:46 | |
That's why I'm going to fucking commit crime. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
Senol, you're too old for this shit now, man. Come on. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
Just...it's not worth it. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
Right, I'm not fucking having it, I'm not happy, | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
I'm not fucking happy at all. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
I'm not fucking happy. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
Fucking hell. So I've got to phone these people up | 0:33:01 | 0:33:06 | |
and try and get a crisis loan. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
But you can't give me no money...? | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
Right, so how do I get my-my-my...my crisis loan done, then? | 0:33:13 | 0:33:19 | |
Fuck. That's a joke, man. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
That's where I got knocked over. This is where I was, here. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:29 | |
That's where I was, here. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
I was dead. I was dead. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
I was dead, man. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:39 | |
I was dead. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:42 | |
I was dead, but...I'm still living. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:48 | |
How much is your Super Skol? | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
Senol has stayed drug-free, | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
but alcohol has him in its grip once again, | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
and he soon finds all his plans falling away. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
If my dad was here, he would have helped me. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
Yeah, but he's not, honey, so we've got each other, haven't we? | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
I just wish my Dad was here, man. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
She's trying to say, "Are you all right?" | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
-No, I'm not. -She knows that. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
She can see Daddy's hurting. She can see Daddy's hurting. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
I told you I'll come to bereavement counselling with you, | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
we'll deal with all that, we'll go anger management, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
keep you occupied, and myself, you know? | 0:34:37 | 0:34:42 | |
We can get through this, hon, we can. HE SNIFFS | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
Do you know what I mean? We can, Bubba, we can. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
(Baby.) | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
HE SIGHS Yeah? We're going to do this, yeah? | 0:34:58 | 0:35:03 | |
Try, yeah. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:04 | |
All right. Well, trying's better than nothing. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:10 | |
Three months after his release, Sean Kieran hasn't gone back to drink. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:20 | |
-How's it going? -Good. -Yeah? -Good. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
With help from a local charity, | 0:35:24 | 0:35:26 | |
he's taking the first steps to free himself from addiction. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
At the moment, you're in a good place | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
and I haven't seen you in this place since I've known you. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
'Bottom line, I'm turning my back on the booze.' | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
It sounds a bit vague but, you know... | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
..I've had sort of glimpses of happiness, you know? | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
Whereas before, I was just sort of like muddling through | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
and just coping and just...going through the motions, | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
if you like, of life. | 0:35:57 | 0:35:58 | |
Every time I see a bottle anywhere, every time I see a pub | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
or an off-licence, I mentally say "expeliamus" to it. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:06 | |
-Where's that from? -From Harry Potter. -From Harry Potter? -Yeah. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:11 | |
That's a defensive spell. Yeah. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
Graham will leave prison tomorrow. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
Once he's out, he wants to stay clean | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
and rebuild bridges with his family. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
See, my relationship with my dad's not...not a good one, kind of thing. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:44 | |
He's kind of old school, my old man is. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
"What's drugs?" kind of thing, like. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
"If you want to stop taking them, just stop taking them," kind of thing. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
"It's easy. Just get a job." And I think that's what he thinks. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:59 | |
I don't know what he thinks cos I've never actually asked, kind of thing. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:03 | |
But he's not well. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
And...I don't want to just go and fix up relationship | 0:37:05 | 0:37:10 | |
because he's not well, but I want to fix up relationship | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
so we can have a relationship, kind of thing. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
Whether that means just coming round every couple of days to see | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
that they're all right, maybe take him to church or something. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
I think he would like to do that if I could somehow do that. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
What I need you to do is sign and date the copy of your licence. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:32 | |
16/3/12. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:33 | |
'My stomach starts churning butterflies, kind of thing. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
'I'm excited, is what I am. I'm really excited about getting out.' | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
But that still doesn't take away the fact that... | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
..it's a bit of a frightening experience. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
Most repeat offenders walk alone from the prison gate. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:58 | |
-HE LAUGHS -The road. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
You all right, Rachel? | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
Because Graham is on the IOM scheme, he is met by probation | 0:38:06 | 0:38:10 | |
and a plain clothes police officer. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
The first hours and days outside are a critical period. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:23 | |
# So how can you tell me you're lonely? # | 0:38:26 | 0:38:31 | |
Mick Norman has been out two days. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
He's still homeless and his prison cash is running out. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
# I'll show you something that'll make you change your mind. # | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
This is where we live, at least we're under the shelter there. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
Through that hole then through there's a big room, | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
but we ain't sure what's in there. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
Get some candles in there, might be able to brighten it up. Bit of paper. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
-Can you show me that? -Yeah, of course. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
In here, we've got a big lump of carpet, we haven't put it down yet, | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
We ain't sorted the floor out yet, | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
but we might put a bit of white emulsion on it, | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
get a few candles in there. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
Brighten it up, that'll do for the winter if we've got nowhere. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
-This is where we'll all be living. -So you slept here the other night? | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
I've slept here since I come out, yeah. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
-David's a ham-and-egger. -Yeah, I beg, believe it or not. -That's what he does. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:19 | |
But before that, I was in and out of jail all me life. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
-How long have you been here, David? -Six months? | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
-Six months. -Yeah, this time. Six months on the road. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
What's it like sleeping here every night? | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
Bad! Very, very bad. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
It ain't nice cos you get people coming into the car park | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
and they look at you like you're a bit of shit. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
But anyone could... They could all be homeless tomorrow. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
Yeah. So that's life in Stratford. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
DOGS BARK | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
Over the next days, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:49 | |
Mick persists with his attempts to get housing and benefits. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
There's no possibility of housing anywhere coming out of that, is there? | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
Yeah. Don't laugh! | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
So are you ringing up about the Job Centre appointment | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
or about the community care grant? | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
I'm looking to see if there's accommodation available with you, still. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:11 | |
Then, Mick gets some welcome news. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
His son, whom he hasn't seen for nearly two years, wants to meet him. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:21 | |
He's made contact with me, and since then we've been texting. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
Hopefully, over the next day or two, I'll go and meet him when he's not busy and I'm not busy. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
Yeah, I'm really looking forward to it. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
He said, "Dad, don't do it for Nan, for the family, for me. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
"Dad, just keep with it." And that's really given me a boost today | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
and I've got to cos I was... | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
You need that support, you need a cuddle now and again, | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
you know what I mean? Yeah. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
SIRENS BLARE | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
Today, Senol is at court. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
He's due for sentencing on an old public order offence. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
There's a risk he'll be sent back behind bars. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
The outcome is crucial for his and Nina's future, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
but he's drinking again. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
In the middle of the hearing, Senol storms out of court. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
What's going on, Senol? | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
My solicitor's saying now that cos they're saying | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
I ain't been cooperative with these lot, I could be going to prison. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:24 | |
The details of the court case become a flashpoint. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
-You know, Senol, you don't listen to shit, mate. -Babe, if you go in... | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
-How bout you do it, Nin? -It's about the one down the St John's Way. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
-Go over there... -That's not the one. It's the St John's one they're on about. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
Yeah, but they've got access to the computer. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
You're taking that fuck over mine as well. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
HE SHOUTS Yes, you are. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:46 | |
You're letting him talk to me like a piece of shit. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
-She didn't take nothing out of his bank... -Nah, fuck her. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
Shut up, Senol, cos it's no-one else's business, yeah? | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
In the end, Senol wasn't given another prison sentence. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:06 | |
Instead, the court gave him a strict community order. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
He must get treatment for his alcohol problem | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
under weekly supervision from probation. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
Nina is now desperate for Senol to change. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:24 | |
It's fucking affecting me. I'm so upset. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
Today even, again he was going to cause more trouble, | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
and we were waiting for a verdict sitting outside a fucking court. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
I've made my fucking mistakes, I have, please believe me, | 0:42:35 | 0:42:40 | |
I have fucked up in my life, big time. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
I have fucked up. Do you know what? I just want my life back | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
and it don't seem to be happening with this man. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
Don't seem to be happening. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
If you want to make a change, make a fucking change, man, do it. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
Don't blame it on everyone else. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
It's everyone else's fucking fault, innit? | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
"It's the system, it's this, it's that." | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
Fucking deal with it yourself. Sorry, that's nothing... | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
SIREN BLARES | 0:43:15 | 0:43:16 | |
Graham has been out three days. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:25 | |
Today, he is booked for a work placement as a trainee gardener. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:29 | |
MAGPIE CHIRPS | 0:43:29 | 0:43:30 | |
Every time he's left jail before, | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
he's gone straight back to crack cocaine, heroin and shoplifting. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:38 | |
But this morning, he's at work on time. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
This is a Norway maple, yeah? | 0:43:42 | 0:43:46 | |
That's chickweed and I don't know what this one is. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:50 | |
-That's a leaf. -BOTH CHUCKLE | 0:43:50 | 0:43:53 | |
This is positive, this is change, what I'm doing, I don't do this. | 0:43:56 | 0:43:59 | |
I don't... In the past, I haven't come out of prison | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 | |
and gone into work or...anything like that. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:09 | |
I'm keeping myself busy and out of trouble by doing this, ain't I? | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
That's not to say I'm saying I've cracked it or anything. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:17 | |
It's the first day, but I hope it's the first of many. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
In three days' time, Graham is due at probation. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:25 | |
In the past, he's never managed to attend. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:30 | |
-Half an hour late now. -How long you going to be? | 0:44:30 | 0:44:34 | |
Hello? | 0:44:36 | 0:44:37 | |
Oh, brilliant, OK, thank you, bye. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:41 | |
-Graham Shiels is here. -He's quick, he was quick. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:45 | |
I couldn't sleep last night. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:48 | |
Graham has got through his first five days out of prison. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:53 | |
How do you feel about how far you've come already? | 0:44:53 | 0:44:55 | |
I feel, I feel good about it. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
You're going to your meetings, you're doing everything | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
that's required of you as well on your licence. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:02 | |
Just keep taking it one day at a time, but so far, | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
-I'm feeling really positive. Do you know what I mean? -All right, Graham. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:10 | |
But Graham was about to get some tragic news. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:13 | |
One week after release and Mick is still on the streets. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:24 | |
But he's about to see his son for the first time in two years | 0:45:24 | 0:45:28 | |
and he wants to look his best. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
-Look, this is a nice American pair of shoes. -Reminds me of Steptoe and Son. Any old rags? | 0:45:30 | 0:45:35 | |
-Have a look. I don't know what size. -They're nice shoes. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:37 | |
They're a bit worn off but... That doesn't matter. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:40 | |
Yeah, they fit as well, that'll do for me. Thank you. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:45 | |
-Yves Saint Laurent, look at that. -Thank you. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
-How are you feeling about it? -Excited, nervous. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:58 | |
Um...he's a young man now, ain't he? | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
-There he is... Fucking hell! -HE LAUGHS | 0:46:04 | 0:46:08 | |
-Hello, boy. -You all right? -You all right, yeah? -Yeah. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:11 | |
-How've you been? -I've been... -The size of you! -Huh? | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
-You look like your uncle, you do. -SON CHUCKLES | 0:46:14 | 0:46:16 | |
-You do. -All right. You all right? -Good, yeah. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:21 | |
-All good, then? -Come on, let's walk up here. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:23 | |
-Look at the size of you! Wow. -Six foot two. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:27 | |
Fucking... | 0:46:27 | 0:46:29 | |
All Nana's done is praising you | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
and saying about how well you're doing, | 0:46:31 | 0:46:32 | |
and that you're actually trying. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:34 | |
Yeah, but college ain't going too bad, either. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:38 | |
-What are you studying? -Performing arts. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:40 | |
Just performing arts? | 0:46:40 | 0:46:41 | |
-Yeah, it's a performing arts college. -Oh. -That's why I love it. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:44 | |
It's full of dancers. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:45 | |
There's, like, 40 or 50 girls going round the college in tutus all day. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:50 | |
I don't care what happens to me. If you never spoke to me again, | 0:46:50 | 0:46:52 | |
Nan didn't, Jackie didn't, everybody didn't, | 0:46:52 | 0:46:54 | |
I'd get on with it, I still wouldn't go back to prison. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
I can't make fuck all up for you, | 0:46:57 | 0:46:59 | |
all I can do is tell you, I'll be there in the future. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:01 | |
-You will do. Don't get upset. -I can't help myself, do know what I mean? | 0:47:01 | 0:47:05 | |
I fucking love you to bits, you know what I mean? | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
-You're me boy. -You all right? -Yeah, it's...just emotions, innit? | 0:47:07 | 0:47:11 | |
Oh, by the way, you're Little Michael, now! | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
I know, Little Michael now. I know! Yeah. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:18 | |
Whatever happens, I'm not going back to prison. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
The drink and drugs is out the window. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
If I have to sleep up a tree for the next three weeks, I will. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:26 | |
-I'm off, son. -All right. -I love you. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:27 | |
-OK. -Listen, I'll give you a ring tomorrow, I'll give you a text. -All right. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
It's only when you get a bit older and you look at what you lost, | 0:47:34 | 0:47:36 | |
and the time you missed out on things, | 0:47:36 | 0:47:38 | |
that you realise what really matters. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
At 43 now, I realise that what matters | 0:47:41 | 0:47:43 | |
is your mum and your dad and your family and your kids | 0:47:43 | 0:47:46 | |
cos without them, you've got fuck all. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
Blinding, seeing him. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:50 | |
That's just given me the boost for the next few weeks, whatever I face. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:53 | |
I could not let that boy down again. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
When we met Senol again, he'd spent the previous night sleeping rough, | 0:48:05 | 0:48:10 | |
believing his relationship was over. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:12 | |
-You're not in the flat any more? -No. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:16 | |
So you've been sleeping on benches? | 0:48:18 | 0:48:20 | |
In the park, yeah, around Highbury. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:24 | |
I'm that close from committing a crime. | 0:48:24 | 0:48:28 | |
I haven't done it for five months, but I will. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:31 | |
I'm telling you, I will. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:34 | |
I just want my life on track. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:37 | |
That's all I'm crying for, man. My life on track. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:43 | |
It just seems I'm not getting it. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:45 | |
As part of his sentence, Senol's progress must now be | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
monitored every week by a probation officer. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:54 | |
Senol's - particularly his most recent offending issues - | 0:48:56 | 0:49:02 | |
are all linked to his alcohol very much. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:04 | |
Getting into altercations with people, becoming violent, | 0:49:04 | 0:49:08 | |
being threatening and abusive in his language and his behaviour | 0:49:08 | 0:49:13 | |
so that, I guess, is why the court was so keen to throw this opportunity | 0:49:13 | 0:49:18 | |
for the alcohol treatment because if Senol can look at that | 0:49:18 | 0:49:22 | |
and address that, a lot of the risk, you know, may dissipate. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:28 | |
Detox IS available for Senol, | 0:49:28 | 0:49:32 | |
but first he must attend group assessment | 0:49:32 | 0:49:34 | |
and so far, he's told probation that although he desperately wants detox, | 0:49:34 | 0:49:40 | |
he won't go to the group. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
-SHOUTING: -You're meant to be putting me in a fucking detox! | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
-What's going on, mate? -OK... -You're doing nothing. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:49 | |
Where's my detox? I want a detox! | 0:49:49 | 0:49:53 | |
-I know, we've talked about... -No, no. You know what, Dan? | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
Let me tell you something. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:58 | |
Breach me, mate, breach me. Cos I'd rather do my detox in jail, innit. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:03 | |
-I want to do my detox in jail. -OK. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:06 | |
Right, I'm getting pissed off waking up like this every fucking morning. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:12 | |
Dan, you know what, mate? Do what you've got to do, | 0:50:12 | 0:50:14 | |
I've come here, I've seen you, you're talking shit to me. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:17 | |
You haven't, you haven't let me talk at all. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:20 | |
All right, all right. Talk. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:22 | |
OK, look. So my understanding of the situation is there's also this thing | 0:50:22 | 0:50:26 | |
called the Options Group, which is down at the Margaret Centre, | 0:50:26 | 0:50:29 | |
which I think you would have to go to that as part of the... | 0:50:29 | 0:50:31 | |
What am I going to go and sit in a group for? For what? | 0:50:31 | 0:50:35 | |
-Because that's part of the process of being referred to a detox. -No, no, no-no-no, no! | 0:50:35 | 0:50:39 | |
I'm not going, and I'm telling you that now. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:43 | |
Right, I've got a drink problem and I want help with it. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:47 | |
I'm not going to sit in a fucking group and talking shit. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:51 | |
Sorry, Dan, I'm not doing it. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
It's really hard for me to help you when you come in like this, | 0:50:54 | 0:50:57 | |
-when you come - because...no... -Hold on, are you blaming? -I'm not, no. | 0:50:57 | 0:51:00 | |
-I'm sleeping in the park. -OK. There's a lot of stuff... | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
Where are you sleeping? Where were you sleeping? | 0:51:03 | 0:51:07 | |
-That's not really relevant. -No, it is irrelevant. -Why is that relevant? | 0:51:07 | 0:51:11 | |
-Where are you sleeping? In a house or a flat? -Yeah. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
-Right, and I'm sleeping in the park. -OK... -Ha ha! | 0:51:14 | 0:51:18 | |
-What, that's not irrelevant? -OK... | 0:51:18 | 0:51:20 | |
-Thank you. -OK. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:22 | |
Graham was working at the garden centre | 0:51:30 | 0:51:33 | |
when his boss received a call. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
'I had a phone call from this woman who introduced herself | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
'as Graham's mother.' | 0:51:39 | 0:51:41 | |
She said, "I've got some awful news, Graham's father's died." | 0:51:41 | 0:51:45 | |
I just said, "Graham, would you come back with me to the office?" | 0:51:45 | 0:51:49 | |
And he looked at me not knowing what's going on and I just said | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
"Sit down, I've got something to tell you." | 0:51:52 | 0:51:54 | |
'And I just did think, "Mmm, this is a likely trigger for him | 0:51:54 | 0:51:58 | |
'"to go back on the drugs again."' | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
Graham's not doing so well at the moment, | 0:52:02 | 0:52:07 | |
so he's been recalled on his licence. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:10 | |
Um... He provided three positive drug tests in a row. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:17 | |
You know, it's tragic. You see, you work with these offenders | 0:52:17 | 0:52:21 | |
and just as they're getting their foot on the ladder, | 0:52:21 | 0:52:24 | |
something else tragic happens. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:26 | |
Once probation have recalled Graham to prison, | 0:52:30 | 0:52:33 | |
it's the police's job to arrest him. | 0:52:33 | 0:52:35 | |
But Graham cannot be found at any known address. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:39 | |
He's on the run. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:40 | |
SIREN BLARES | 0:52:40 | 0:52:41 | |
For Senol, things are starting to go right, despite all his problems. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:57 | |
Seven months after leaving prison, | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
he is co-operating with probation and has got assessment for detox. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:05 | |
He has stayed off drugs, out of trouble, | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
and his bond with Nina survives. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:12 | |
He's my baby, I love him, I love him to bits. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:16 | |
'We want what I suppose everyone wants, | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
'we just want a normal life.' | 0:53:19 | 0:53:21 | |
I don't want to be meeting any other people, anyone else. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:25 | |
Do you know what I mean? | 0:53:25 | 0:53:26 | |
Can I talk to someone about getting married? | 0:53:29 | 0:53:31 | |
-Yep, just go to the registry office. -Right. -If you go straight down, first door. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:35 | |
These are the documents you need to bring, | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
you need to make an appointment for it, | 0:53:37 | 0:53:39 | |
you need to come in together for the appointment. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
-We're getting married! -HE LAUGHS | 0:53:42 | 0:53:45 | |
I can't wait, I can't wait, man. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:47 | |
It's the longest I've ever been out of prison. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:50 | |
Thanks to Nina, you know. If it weren't for Nina, | 0:53:50 | 0:53:54 | |
I don't know what I'd be doing now. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:56 | |
After four weeks of trying, Mick Norman finally got a place to stay. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:08 | |
Then, things moved on quicker than he could ever have imagined. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
The place I've got, which is a studio flat, | 0:54:11 | 0:54:15 | |
it ain't Buckingham Palace but I'm grateful, you know? | 0:54:15 | 0:54:17 | |
It's big enough for me. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:19 | |
In that time, I've moved in there. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:21 | |
Within two weeks me boy's landed on me, my mum's rang, | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
"Can I take my son back?" Over the moon. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:26 | |
Who would've said that three months ago, or two months ago, | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
that you'll have your son live with you? | 0:54:29 | 0:54:31 | |
Mick's new role is to get a teenager out of bed in time for college. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:38 | |
I bet he's still asleep. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:39 | |
-DOLLAN: -Morning. -MICK LAUGHS | 0:54:45 | 0:54:48 | |
Things in the fridge, Dollan. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:51 | |
This is my place, anyway. | 0:54:57 | 0:54:58 | |
Yep. Nice, big room. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:01 | |
Yeah, got my kitchen there, got a decent bathroom there. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:05 | |
Decent shower, got plenty of toiletries up there and there, | 0:55:07 | 0:55:11 | |
plenty of towels, what else do you need? | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
When you're used to living in an eight-by-twelve cell for years, | 0:55:14 | 0:55:18 | |
I mean, this is like luxury, innit? | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
I spawned that. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:21 | |
DOLLAN AND MICK CHUCKLE | 0:55:21 | 0:55:22 | |
No, he's all right, he's good stuff. He's on his own journey, you know. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:26 | |
-What have you lost? -Nothing. -The blue ones are there. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:30 | |
I'm not looking for the blue ones. I've got them, got them. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:36 | |
-I've got to sort out the laces on them. -Right. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:37 | |
Cos they got that tight the other day, yeah, | 0:55:37 | 0:55:40 | |
I literally had to cut the laces in order for me to get it off. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:44 | |
When we grew up, we used to have to undo our laces | 0:55:44 | 0:55:47 | |
-and then do them up when we put them on. -No... -Not just tie them up once, then slip them on. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:51 | |
First of all, my dad's been walking around in these, yeah? | 0:55:51 | 0:55:55 | |
Yeah, a £70 pair of exclusive Adidas trainers. Whose are they(?) | 0:55:55 | 0:55:59 | |
-Yours. -Mine. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
-Who cooks? -Huh? -Who cooks? Who does the shopping, who does the washing? | 0:56:01 | 0:56:06 | |
-Eh? -No comment. -"No comment"! Go have a shower! | 0:56:06 | 0:56:12 | |
My life revolved around crime, around addiction, around alcoholism. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:17 | |
Everything in my life that I thought was gone, lost, | 0:56:17 | 0:56:21 | |
never coming back, | 0:56:21 | 0:56:22 | |
for the last couple of years when I've been going back to prison | 0:56:22 | 0:56:25 | |
cos I've been homeless, | 0:56:25 | 0:56:26 | |
everything I've lost, I've suddenly got back. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:28 | |
I'm not allowed to fail. I don't want to fail. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:31 | |
Graham Shiels had been recalled to prison | 0:56:40 | 0:56:43 | |
after the death of his father | 0:56:43 | 0:56:45 | |
but he evaded arrest by the police for a month. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:49 | |
Now, he's back at Pentonville. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:51 | |
I was engaging this time, I know I mucked up. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
-But I was trying... -You were engaging brilliantly. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:56 | |
It was just a shame that you couldn't maintain that. | 0:56:56 | 0:56:59 | |
As mad as it sounds, I felt happy when I come back to jail | 0:56:59 | 0:57:04 | |
-cos I knew that was it. -Yeah, it was over. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:06 | |
That was it. I thought, | 0:57:06 | 0:57:07 | |
I knew I didn't have to look over my back no more | 0:57:07 | 0:57:10 | |
-cos I'm walking down Holloway Road thinking, "Is this the time?" -Yeah. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:14 | |
-When I did use, I weren't enjoying it, kind of thing. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:17 | |
It's different if I was going out and enjoying the smoking | 0:57:17 | 0:57:21 | |
-or having a good time on it... I weren't. -Yeah. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:25 | |
-We live and learn, don't we, Graham? -Yeah, of course. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:29 | |
Graham's brief period of success on the outside | 0:57:29 | 0:57:33 | |
has given him some consolation. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:36 | |
He died five days after I got out, so... | 0:57:36 | 0:57:40 | |
I didn't get a lot of time with him | 0:57:40 | 0:57:41 | |
but...I'm just glad that he's seen me going to work | 0:57:41 | 0:57:46 | |
and doing positive things rather than... | 0:57:46 | 0:57:50 | |
I come out, spend my money on crack and heroin | 0:57:50 | 0:57:57 | |
and then I'm only coming round to borrow money, for instance. | 0:57:57 | 0:58:00 | |
The good news is, in my experience of probation, | 0:58:00 | 0:58:02 | |
the fact he went that far means that next time, he'll go that far | 0:58:02 | 0:58:07 | |
and hopefully we'll just keep getting a bit further each time. | 0:58:07 | 0:58:10 | |
Coming in and out of prison, things like that... | 0:58:12 | 0:58:16 | |
I know if I don't change, I'll be doing it again and again and again and again. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:21 | |
So, that's it. | 0:58:21 | 0:58:22 | |
GUARD SHOUTS ORDERS | 0:58:23 | 0:58:26 | |
INDISTINCT CHATTER | 0:58:39 | 0:58:44 | |
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