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-DAVID CAMERON:

-Now the fires have been put out

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and the smoke has cleared,

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the question hangs in the air - why? How could this happen on our streets and in our country?

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Last summer, England suffered the worst riots in a generation.

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In this series, we're going to get the dramatic first-hand accounts of those who were there -

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the police and the rioters.

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First, the rioters.

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-Just checking it's recording.

-Mic check.

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What I'm trying to establish, right,

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I think what we're all trying to establish,

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is why it spread where it spread, and how it spread.

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Because it is easy...money,

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easy...money,

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easy money.

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Two months after those five violent days in August,

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researchers began interviewing rioters.

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The aim? To get them to explain in their own words what happened and why.

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These are some of those interviews, recreated using actors.

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-It was like Demolition Man. Have you seen Demolition Man?

-No.

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Well, there's a higher class and a lower class.

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The lower class gained the power. That day, we had the power.

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Most of those interviewed had not been arrested

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and all spoke after being promised anonymity.

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Much of what they say is shocking.

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But it adds up to a unique insight into why our streets saw such violence.

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Anything gets the police out, I'll happily join.

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Just that rush, where you think, "Oh, my God, you can get anything."

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It was quite enjoyable. It was really enjoyable, actually.

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'Opportunist. I had to grab it.'

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You don't get to run riot like that every day.

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This is what happened, according to those who took part.

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The riots. In their own words.

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This programme contains strong language.

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'This evening, there is some unrest in the Tottenham area in North London.

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'Here's what we know so far...'

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'..followed protests about the shooting dead by police on Thursday

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'of a local man, Mark Duggan...'

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On 6th August last year,

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about 120 people gathered outside Tottenham Police Station in London.

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They had marched from Broadwater Farm Estate

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to protest at the shooting by police of local man Mark Duggan.

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-WOMAN INTERVIEWER:

-All right, so what did you do?

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Basically, we went down to the... on the protest with the family,

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asking for answers.

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We went down there to talk to one of the head police officers

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and they said it would be a few hours.

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Ended up, we was waiting for about five hours, that's right, yeah?

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We was there for five hours, one of the head police comes out and says,

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"The police can't deal with this right now,"

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we have to come back another day.

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-D'you know what I mean?

-People started to stand in the middle of the road

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to stop the traffic, so at that time, people was getting angry.

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Wait, why were people doing that?

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To show them we're serious, that we're not going to go away.

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'..100 protesters are currently

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'gathering outside the police station that's on the High Road

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'in Tottenham in north London...'

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I remember myself personally lying in the middle of the street

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spread-eagle, no traffic's not passing here, I don't care.

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I lie down in the road, then other mums joined me.

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Got to about maybe nine o'clock. Say after eight, nine o'clock.

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And I remember the chief of police, whoever it was, wasn't coming again.

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-INTERVIEWER:

-What did you think when you first heard about it?

-Go to war.

-OK.

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-We're still being held down, home. You know what I'm saying?

-Sure.

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-Still getting bullshitted.

-Mm-hmm. What did you do?

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Did you... Did you go anywhere when you heard...?

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Yeah, jumped in a vehicle, about six geezers, went down there.

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-OK, where?

-Where do you expect?

-I'm thinking Tottenham...

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-Straight to the damage zone.

-I don't want to put words in your mouth.

-The combat zone.

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-So, do you mean Tottenham?

-Yeah.

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People just started to come from everywhere.

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-What was the atmosphere like?

-Very tense.

-Very tense.

-A lot of anger.

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Frustration in the air. There was a lot of...tension.

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There was a lot of anger, innit?

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I grew up with Mark, yeah?

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And we're used to being roughed up by the police.

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We're used to being stopped by the police.

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Even harassed, abused by them.

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Even in the early days,

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maybe a little dig by the police by them punching us, or...

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You get me? Having their little wicked way,

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but it's like they've taken foul play to a whole new level.

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You see what I'm saying?

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If this was Camden or the City of Westminster,

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or where does the Queen live?

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-What's that? Buckingham, wherever the hell that is, yeah...

-Westminster.

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Westminster's a different thing, blud.

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Cos if the Queen was to die now,

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there'll be a big massive inqu... Like, come on!

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If the Queen was to get snipered, it'd be a madness. You get me, like?

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There's going to be some outcome quicker than what happened with Mark.

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'Two police cars, a shop and a bus have been set on fire

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'during a demonstration outside a police station in north London...'

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-CALLER ON RADIO:

-'I have seen the riot police. They're not moving.

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'They're not attempting to clear people, but they're making their presence known.'

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'I saw a couple of youths run across to the grocery shops

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'and they were handing over £5

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'and picking up crates of apples, crates of oranges,'

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stacking them up. And I thought, yeah.

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And people started throwing weapons.

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And I knew something was going to take place

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because I could see by the youths gathering,

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and that's when I knew, this was war.

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-CALLER ON RADIO:

-'There seems to be a lot of anger in Tottenham tonight.

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'There are a lot of people there saying, "Come on," you know, "This is our chance,"

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'and they keep running at the police line...'

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Word of the violence spread and attracted more people to the scene,

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including those who were just curious.

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-Come and say hello?

-Hello.

-Hello.

-This is Brendan.

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He's doing an interview on me. And anyone else who was involved...

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-An interview on you?

-Because I was at the Tottenham riot.

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-CALLER ON THE RADIO:

-'There's fires, there's three police cars on fire, blown up.

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'Shops are getting broken into.

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'I mean, it's absolutely mad down here.'

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It was quite striking because it was literally

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one of those situations where my 14-year-old brought me her phone

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with a picture of a burning car and said,

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"Mum, that's on Tottenham High Road.

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I saw the picture, and I said to my daughter, "Do you want to go there, and see what's going on?"

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-So we did, on our bikes.

-Yeah.

-And, um...

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on the way down, I lost my daughter

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because of the crowds who were on the High Road.

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'And a few minutes later, she phoned me up to tell me off for being such a bad mother

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'for losing her in a crowd in a potentially dangerous situation.'

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'I went into the corner of a little shop

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'because I didn't want nothing to blow up and burn me up.

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'So I stood in a little shop, but while we was in the shop,

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'we was like nurses because all the wounded was coming to us.

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'I saw guys'

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with their hands sliced open, skin hanging off.

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I took them ice water, I washed their wounds,

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I said, "You need to go to the hospital.

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"And...those that are not that injured, go back and fight,"

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cos I didn't care.

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I think the policemen deserve a bloody good hiding.

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That's what Bernie Grant says.

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Because they have no right to go and kill no-one.

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-There's no gang involvement.

-They say that.

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Tottenham wasn't really organised like that.

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It's not a gang round here. We're all family and friends, mainly.

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It's not a thing like that,

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where people call us gangs, we're just a group of friends

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what are family orientated through blood.

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-CALLER ON THE RADIO:

-'Mate, it's an absolute war zone. I walked up there.

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'I saw about five youths, all faces covered up.

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'They set a wheelie bin on fire and threw it into the riot police.'

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'I saw about 16 men,'

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all in grey tracksuit. They came from N16.

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They said, "We're here to help you." Men came from other parts.

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They said that, "Today, we are putting down the postcode war.

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"We're here to help you." And I call them soldiers.

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Could have been their brother, could have been...

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because it was a black man that got...

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black young boy that got killed, you know,

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and that's why they got involved.

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And they stood united together on the front line

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and was pelting the police.

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And that was really, really nice.

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-There was a lot of stupidity going on, so...

-Why do you think?

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-Because there was a lot of lost innocent souls...

-It was money, man.

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They just wanted money. I spoke to someone who worked in the Jobcentre,

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and they said it was copper and lead they took. Do you know what I mean?

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Everybody had their own reasons, and I guarantee you,

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about 80% of them never had nothing to do with Mark, really.

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Like, I'm sure Mark wouldn't have liked it if people's houses

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were getting burnt down in his name. You see where I'm coming from?

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'The news you're waking up to this Sunday morning is,

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'there have been riots overnight in North London.

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'Petrol bombs were thrown at police.

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'Patrol cars, a bus and buildings

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'on Tottenham High Road were set on fire...'

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-TEARFUL WOMAN:

-'We were trying to get out of the building,

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'you know, we were in such a panic.

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'And then we got outside and then I saw the building. It had flames going up the building.

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'You know, ten minutes longer in that...in that building

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'and we would have been dead.'

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More than 40 people were arrested

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and 26 police officers injured.

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What no-one guessed was that Tottenham would be the trigger

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for a further four days of rioting across England.

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At first, in other parts of London,

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and then Birmingham, Liverpool and Manchester, amongst other areas.

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Some took to the streets after hearing the news

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on television, radio and websites,

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while others alerted each other by phone messaging.

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'Well, I got a BC on my Blackberry'

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handheld...internet

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or handheld devices.

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Um, I didn't believe it.

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But then I started getting numerous broadcasts,

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so I thought, let's just delve a bit deeper into this.

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-The day before, were you aware there was rioting in Tottenham??

-Yeah.

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Like, the guy that got shot or something. Yeah.

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And were you expecting this to happen?

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Yeah, I was, but not on the scale that it happened, though.

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When we seen everything's happening in Tottenham,

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everyone just clicked and said, "Yeah, this is our chance."

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Fuck up feds and...

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and do our thing, basically, do what we have to do. Cause mayhem.

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Cos it felt like we was on a leash for years

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and it felt like we've come off that leash

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and we just responded in that way.

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If some welcomed the opportunity,

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others said their involvement was not so calculated.

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The week that the riots started and thing, you know,

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in between, my aunt was on holiday or something like that,

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and she went and got my medication from the doctor's,

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because I've got mental health issues, innit.

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-Right.

-Took them home,

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forgot about them, went on holiday, and I run out.

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So I had a week with no medication, and during that week,

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the riots happened.

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'..actually, people are coming from other parts of London

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'to join in with this, which implies the situation's escalating...'

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'EVERYONE met up from EVERY single area.'

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There was a lot. There was at least 200 of us,

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because it's not just my area that linked up.

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We linked up with a couple of other estates.

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There was no plan. The only plan was to meet up.

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-Can I ask you, then, let's say the day of the Bromley riots...

-Mm-hmm.

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..can you remember what you were doing that morning?

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I was with my girlfriend. Doing something naughty.

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OK, fair enough, I won't ask you for details.

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And then how did that day then evolve? What happened next?

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Er...I know I shouldn't, I'm a naughty boy,

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but my girlfriend went home and I went to meet another girl.

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In Bromley. Because I never knew it was happening in Bromley.

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-Right, OK.

-Yeah, but... it was madness in Bromley.

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So, I mean, she couldn't come.

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It wasn't like I went there with a big gang, like, all my boys,

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and started terrorising Bromley.

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I went there, literally, to be a slut.

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-Everyone starts messaging, saying it's all happened.

-Yeah.

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What were they messaging you saying? What had happened?

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Terror. Riots in Brixton.

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-Yeah, it's kicking off, basically.

-What did you think

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when you got that message, or those messages?

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I was thinking, I'm going back there.

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I had nothing to do. I weren't tired. Fuck it.

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The crowds gathering on the streets were a mix of races.

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Most were young men or boys, and many were students.

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But there were also families and older local residents.

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Even many rioters would later speak of a party atmosphere

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and of warring gangs suspending their hostilities.

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Every type of person was there.

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There was some guy in shorts, flip-flops and a straw hat.

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-A white guy?

-Yeah, a white guy.

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Flip-flops, he was wearing. Flip-flops, shorts and a straw hat.

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It was really interesting. I'm a parent governor in a local school

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and I saw numerous people from there. I saw loads of people.

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Loads of people came up to me and said, "Mum, what are you doing here?

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"Don't you think you should go home?"

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-You are a bit old for the riots.

-It was quite enjoyable.

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It was really enjoyable, actually.

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'People are having what I can only describe as a good time, by the looks on their faces.'

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I was like, "Oh, my God, why are you here? Why are you here?"

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It was like a big joke. I was joking around. "I'm telling your mum you're here."

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At one stage, it was like a street party

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cos there was alcohol everywhere.

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'There are so many youths out there who have got knapsacks on, bottles.

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'It looks like they're going to a party.'

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I just went down there as a spectator. I really did at first.

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I think most of us spectators did exactly the same.

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Came along, just to watch, but found ourselves wound up in it.

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Even though there was a majority of boys and girls,

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there was a big majority of big people, like women, men, mothers...

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-Older.

-Older, 30, 30-year-olds.

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People that were enemies, they were all meeting up as friends.

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No war that day, them days.

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They're warring now, but not them days. In times like that, they unite.

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Times like what?

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To make free money, and it's easy. You get free TVs, free laptops.

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-Would you not do it?

-Certainly not.

-If you could get away with it?

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Shops would be the prime target.

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Local shops on high streets, shops the rioters might buy

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their clothes from, shops with high-value electrical goods.

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But why did thousands of people seize the opportunity to loot?

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Everyone was scared to start it off.

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And then police were there for about ten minutes.

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And then all of a sudden, they disappeared, so it all kicked off.

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-So, yeah, someone dashed a stone at a Maplin's window.

-Really?

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And then it all kicked off.

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'The scene which is in front of me is abject criminality.

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'There are at least a couple of hundred youths,

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'they have balaclavas, they have scarves,

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'and they are basically smashing into any shop that they so choose.'

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-What did you see outside?

-Everyone was looting.

-What were you doing?

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And enjoying themselves.

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What was the conversation between you and your friends when you were watching this happen?

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"I'm going to get four TVs." "I'm going to get five."

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"Have you been in there yet?" "No." "I'm not going in there." "Why?" "Cos it's too peak."

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It wasn't no drama, no stress, everyone had the power.

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Everyone had the strength.

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The police wasn't in control. We had the power.

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'Every single shop I've just passed in the last two minutes has had its windows caved in.

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'Iron railings buckled. There are groups of youths helping themselves.

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'I saw a Tesco with its entire front...'

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I took a TV that day.

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Taking off in a van, going home, dropping shit off,

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coming back, doing it again, boom.

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'They are helping themselves to everything in these shops.

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'A jeweller's been knocked over.

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'One of the supermarket trolleys is being laden with whatever they can get their hands on.'

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My pal, obviously, kicked in some windows, some caf, got some wine,

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got some champagne.

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Yeah. And then move on to the next shop.

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Obviously, I had a couple of munchies.

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Obviously got some Haribos. The guy opened the tills.

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Obviously, took the money.

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'I see my wife, who has worked for 20 years,

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'came to this country with nothing

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'and built up a small empire of restaurants

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'which she runs single-handedly,

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'and to have people trash, mindless vandalism, to wreck, to rob,

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'to loot from her... You can probably hear the emotion in my voice

0:19:460:19:50

'because I'm so upset about this.'

0:19:500:19:53

Some said they never planned to loot, but were swept away by what was happening around them.

0:19:550:20:01

I see a police car drive past,

0:20:060:20:09

people putting bricks through the police car,

0:20:090:20:13

so I thought, "What is happening?

0:20:130:20:16

"Is this how they're going on, yeah?"

0:20:160:20:18

So I was like, "Right, this is crazy, I need to get out of it

0:20:180:20:21

"cos I'll end up getting myself nicked, yeah?"

0:20:210:20:23

So then I try, but you can't leave.

0:20:230:20:27

Then I just don't know, something switched off in my brain

0:20:270:20:31

and I was just...

0:20:310:20:34

Felt like walking in a phone shop.

0:20:360:20:38

So, you know... It was...a little bit drunk,

0:20:390:20:44

we decide, why not? Something new, adrenaline rush.

0:20:440:20:47

And the shop was half open, yeah?

0:20:470:20:50

So we just grab inside, took some stuff,

0:20:500:20:53

DVDs, you know, game stuff.

0:20:530:20:57

The shops, people coming out of shops

0:20:570:21:00

and just leaving stuff on the floor.

0:21:000:21:02

What I was actually doing, right, I actually found this iPod

0:21:020:21:06

and as I picked it up, this girl was looking at me. I just gave it to her.

0:21:060:21:10

I went in one of the shops, like, took a load of cigarettes,

0:21:100:21:14

and actually gave it to the people when I came out.

0:21:140:21:16

I actually gave it to this old woman. Kept one packet for myself, pack of 40.

0:21:160:21:21

I was scared. "I don't want to do it, Becky. I don't want to do it."

0:21:230:21:26

But then, after it all kicked off and everyone was doing it,

0:21:260:21:31

after everyone was doing it, you just joined in and it felt fine,

0:21:310:21:34

it just felt natural, like you was naturally shopping.

0:21:340:21:38

Like it was just a normal day and Becky was like to me,

0:21:380:21:41

"Come, let's go and rob a shop." I was like, "Are you crazy?"

0:21:410:21:45

But because everyone was doing it, I thought,

0:21:450:21:47

if everyone was doing that and no-one is getting caught at the time, why can't I do it?

0:21:470:21:52

The normal rules of behaviour had been thrown out.

0:21:530:21:56

I was seeing people fucking 70 years old,

0:22:010:22:05

walking in JD with their...

0:22:050:22:07

You know them... What's them pulling things that they use?

0:22:070:22:11

Like a little trolley, looks like a suitcase?

0:22:110:22:13

-Yeah, like a bag on wheels, yeah. You know them bags?

-I do, yeah.

0:22:130:22:16

They were just filling stuff up and walking out.

0:22:160:22:19

I'm thinking, "These are just old people and they're still robbing."

0:22:190:22:24

I thought, "This is crazy!"

0:22:240:22:27

It's just that adrenaline... I can't say the word.

0:22:300:22:34

It's just like that rush where you think, "Oh, my God, you can get anything."

0:22:340:22:38

iPhones, phones, any BlackBerries, TVs...

0:22:380:22:42

You just think, "Wow, I'm getting all this free stuff,"

0:22:420:22:45

and you're not going to get caught because so many people are doing it.

0:22:450:22:49

'The scene which is in front of me is like the Wild West.

0:22:490:22:53

'It is completely and utterly lawless.'

0:22:530:22:57

So you've covered up, gone into the phone shop, and then what happened?

0:22:570:23:02

It was already open. It was already ransacked and that.

0:23:020:23:06

But you know when you're just nosy and you're in the middle of it.

0:23:060:23:10

I just popped in there, see what was happening, it was just crazy.

0:23:100:23:14

-All empty and that.

-At what point did you think you'd had enough?

0:23:140:23:18

I had enough soon as I got there.

0:23:180:23:20

I couldn't be bothered with it, because I knew if I'm here

0:23:200:23:24

and I'm not on my tablets, then I'm going to get into trouble.

0:23:240:23:27

But I just overpowered what was happening.

0:23:270:23:31

The unprecedented scale and spread of the rioting

0:23:340:23:38

meant there were not enough police to cope in some areas.

0:23:380:23:41

A number of rioters spoke of being at first confused

0:23:410:23:44

and then encouraged by what they thought was a weak response.

0:23:440:23:48

'I cannot see one single police officer in this stretch.

0:23:490:23:54

'I can see no flashing blue lights. I can see no riot police on the street.

0:23:540:23:59

'I can see no vans. The people here are basically free to do as they want.'

0:23:590:24:04

The police saw me with my TV and a couple of trainers, yeah?

0:24:060:24:10

They wasn't doing anything. They was looking. It was like, "Huh-huh." They just drove off. Right, cool.

0:24:100:24:15

"If they're doing this, then it's OK for everyone else to do it."

0:24:150:24:19

'To say that the police are stretched here, I don't think would be a fabrication of the truth.

0:24:190:24:24

'It is as clear as the nose on your face.

0:24:240:24:28

'There are not enough officers at the moment to deal with this trouble.'

0:24:280:24:32

Because there's no police around, it was like, free stuff.

0:24:340:24:38

I went into a clothes shop and then I went into John Lewis

0:24:380:24:44

and apart from that, I was just outside, holding everyone's stuff that I was with.

0:24:440:24:48

I was really shocked about this behaviour of these people

0:24:530:24:57

and behaviour of police because they were ready

0:24:570:25:00

to just stand and watch what's going on.

0:25:000:25:04

They... I think they didn't do enough to stop this.

0:25:040:25:09

I think in my country, police would just use plastic bullets,

0:25:090:25:14

gas, or these water pipes. Something like this.

0:25:140:25:17

-Cannons.

-Yes. I was really surprised by the police.

0:25:170:25:22

The police were not everywhere. But CCTV was.

0:25:240:25:29

Looters who didn't cover up were having their identities silently recorded.

0:25:290:25:34

At one point, I think, "Am I going to get caught?

0:25:370:25:40

"Am I going to get caught?" I was like, "Oh, my God, what have I done?"

0:25:400:25:44

You don't think about the CCTV. When you're inside the shop, you think,

0:25:440:25:48

"I'm going to hide my face", but when you're out of the shop,

0:25:480:25:51

you're hot and exhausted from running round the shop.

0:25:510:25:54

And then you come out of the shop

0:25:540:25:56

and you pull down your bandana or hood or whatever

0:25:560:25:59

and then there's cameras outside the shop.

0:25:590:26:01

I was on the precinct myself. I was putting cameras out of action.

0:26:060:26:10

Cos these kids are going to get themselves arrested. Just pushing the cameras into the air, CCTV.

0:26:100:26:16

So they couldn't be caught, obviously.

0:26:160:26:18

I don't want them getting arrested. Half of them are probably like myself,

0:26:180:26:22

just came outside to see what was going on and got dragged into it.

0:26:220:26:26

ALARM BLEEPS

0:26:260:26:29

A trolley! Supermarket sweep!

0:26:290:26:33

Supermarket sweep! Go, Dale! Go!

0:26:330:26:35

HE LAUGHS

0:26:350:26:38

For one rioter, the looting was an opportunity to take revenge.

0:26:380:26:42

I targeted the ones that I had the problems with.

0:26:440:26:48

That's what I targeted.

0:26:480:26:50

All the people that take the piss about me looking young

0:26:500:26:53

and not getting served cigarettes and taking the piss, their shops got fucked up.

0:26:530:26:58

They always ask me for ID, like.

0:26:580:27:00

The thing is, "I've showed you ID before, don't need to show you my ID again."

0:27:000:27:05

And they'll get rude after I say that.

0:27:050:27:07

So I'm like, "Cool, one day your time will come". And their time come.

0:27:070:27:12

JD Sports, I looted JD Sports

0:27:120:27:14

because they didn't want to recruit me when I tried to find a job.

0:27:140:27:18

So I just got them back for what they done, basically.

0:27:180:27:21

Next, Next, tried to break into it, broke into it, broke it,

0:27:210:27:25

lifted it up, I started smashing up the whole place

0:27:250:27:28

cos they didn't employ me.

0:27:280:27:29

They made me buy new shoes and a new suit for me, for them to say no to me.

0:27:290:27:35

No way! No way!

0:27:350:27:38

Everything started clicking back that day. Yeah.

0:27:380:27:42

Started clicking back. Say "Yeah, you. You."

0:27:420:27:46

WOMAN: 'It's absolutely disgusting. They are feral rats.

0:27:480:27:52

'Those children should be at home.

0:27:520:27:55

'They shouldn't be out here causing mayhem. I'm absolutely livid.'

0:27:550:28:00

-What are you thinking whilst you're doing this?

-What was I thinking?!

0:28:070:28:12

To be honest, I wasn't thinking anything.

0:28:120:28:14

-What was your motivation then, to do it?

-Cos everyone else was doing it.

0:28:140:28:20

Say for instance, you're standing outside a bank, yeah,

0:28:200:28:24

there's no police or nothing, and you see people going in the bank

0:28:240:28:29

and come back with wads of money in their hand, what would you do?

0:28:290:28:33

I don't think I would have gone in it. I don't think so, no.

0:28:330:28:36

I wasn't there and I can't say 100%, but I don't think I would.

0:28:360:28:40

-I would go in.

-I know. That's what you're telling me.

0:28:400:28:44

That's what I'm saying.

0:28:440:28:46

-So it was just an opportunity that presented itself.

-Yeah.

0:28:460:28:49

Opportunist. I had to grab it.

0:28:490:28:53

You don't get to run riot like that every day.

0:28:530:28:56

More than 2,500 businesses were attacked across England.

0:29:010:29:05

The total cost of the riots to the country has been estimated

0:29:050:29:09

as high as half a billion pounds.

0:29:090:29:12

Most of those who have appeared before the courts

0:29:120:29:15

were charged with burglary and theft linked to looting.

0:29:150:29:18

But a few of the rioters didn't just target shops.

0:29:200:29:23

They also attacked passers-by.

0:29:230:29:24

Are they actually helping him up?

0:29:410:29:43

Oh, my God.

0:29:460:29:47

He just took something from his bag.

0:29:530:29:55

Dickhead.

0:29:570:29:59

And amongst the rioters themselves,

0:30:090:30:11

some of the strong targeted the weak.

0:30:110:30:15

I went there to see how they were getting things.

0:30:170:30:20

And they were sliding underneath the shutters and that.

0:30:200:30:23

So I think to myself,

0:30:250:30:26

"I'm not getting on my hands and knees to get no goods."

0:30:260:30:31

So I just thought, came up with a cunning plan, yeah?

0:30:310:30:38

And I stayed outside, yeah?

0:30:380:30:43

I waited for someone to come out with something that I wanted

0:30:430:30:46

and I just take it from them, the car was round the corner

0:30:460:30:50

and I just put it in the car. I come back and do the same thing.

0:30:500:30:55

Me and Becky, we had a touchscreen computer and we got robbed,

0:30:550:30:59

we had a laptop, that got robbed.

0:30:590:31:03

Um... What else did we have?

0:31:030:31:06

We had something for an Xbox, that got robbed.

0:31:060:31:10

People just came up to us and said, "Let me have that."

0:31:100:31:13

And cos they're big boys, you're scared to say no.

0:31:130:31:16

If you say no, they'll just grab it out of you.

0:31:160:31:19

"You're moist, give it, give it."

0:31:190:31:20

-So you were stealing from people who were stealing?

-Yes.

0:31:200:31:24

So if I were to go underneath the shutters in Currys

0:31:240:31:27

and I come out with a television and you're on the other side,

0:31:270:31:30

why am I going to give you my television?

0:31:300:31:32

You have no choice, I'll just take it.

0:31:320:31:34

Just put it in the car, round the corner, and come back.

0:31:340:31:38

Were people not arguing with you?

0:31:380:31:40

How can they argue, bruv? It's free goods.

0:31:400:31:44

Me and Becky would turn around and be like, "We took it, so it's ours,

0:31:440:31:48

"it's nothing to do with you, get your own things."

0:31:480:31:52

So me and Becky, yeah, we did get robbed.

0:31:520:31:55

For some, the looting was a shameful distraction from what they felt

0:32:010:32:05

should have been the real target.

0:32:050:32:08

Tottenham was for a cause, a well-known cause.

0:32:100:32:13

The others was just mimic. Brixton, Hackney, they had no cause.

0:32:130:32:18

Because they were stealing.

0:32:180:32:20

If they were out there pelting the police and not looting the shops,

0:32:200:32:24

I would say, "Yes, this is a good war to have with the police."

0:32:240:32:27

But what I see and how I saw theirs happening was, they're stealing.

0:32:270:32:32

They was just naturally going out there to do theft. It wasn't called for.

0:32:320:32:36

Violence towards the police would be a factor

0:32:400:32:42

in nearly all the riots across England.

0:32:420:32:44

More than 300 officers would be injured tackling the disturbances.

0:32:460:32:50

But why was such anger directed towards the police?

0:32:520:32:56

It felt like a battle cos there was police against us,

0:32:560:33:01

and for the first time, we felt like we could actually take them on.

0:33:010:33:05

Every rock we could get hold of, we were throwing at them.

0:33:080:33:12

Stones, chairs, coins, shoes...

0:33:120:33:15

First, it was the police I was aiming at.

0:33:150:33:17

There wasn't even enough police there that day.

0:33:170:33:20

The total tension was, the filth were portraying their strength.

0:33:200:33:24

That's all they're doing, suited and booted,

0:33:240:33:27

ready to fucking tear your arse off.

0:33:270:33:29

-Right.

-So we got ready to tear their arses off. This is war.

0:33:290:33:32

-How do you get ready?

-What do you mean? You're all tooled up.

-OK.

0:33:320:33:37

Anything goes. You fight with your hands, your fists, anything goes.

0:33:370:33:42

-Is that what happened on the night?

-Yeah.

0:33:420:33:44

TV BROADCAST: The Met have admitted this morning

0:33:440:33:47

that they have been stretched "beyond belief"

0:33:470:33:51

in a way never experienced before.

0:33:510:33:54

It was like a line of police there, there's bare people throwing stones

0:33:570:34:02

and rocks at them, innit. Some wood, To Let signs.

0:34:020:34:07

Obviously, I'm pinging all of my friends,

0:34:070:34:09

trying to find out where everyone is.

0:34:090:34:12

How many police? How many people? What were they doing?

0:34:120:34:15

What could you see?

0:34:150:34:17

Like, a line of policemen

0:34:170:34:20

in full armour with shields.

0:34:200:34:23

-Were people shouting anything at the police?

-Yeah.

0:34:230:34:26

-What were they shouting?

-Everything.

-SHE LAUGHS

0:34:260:34:30

That doesn't tell me anything!

0:34:300:34:32

Bastards. Pigs. Na-na-na-na.

0:34:320:34:36

-Just...

-Abuse.

0:34:360:34:39

Yeah. Basically.

0:34:390:34:41

I remember seeing an old white man go and kick a police car.

0:34:490:34:53

The burning police car. I said, "I feel like doing that as well."

0:34:530:34:58

And because... Suddenly, it brought back to me all the anger

0:34:580:35:02

that I feel about the police.

0:35:020:35:04

I was going, "I'm entitled to do that as well.

0:35:040:35:08

"I need to go and kick that car."

0:35:080:35:11

I said, "What happened to you? What's wrong with you?

0:35:110:35:13

"Why are you kicking the car?"

0:35:130:35:16

-He said, "Those fucking racist police."

-Yeah, yeah!

0:35:160:35:19

I can't do his accent, but he was... he was Eastern European, I think,

0:35:190:35:23

and he was cursing away.

0:35:230:35:26

"Fucking racist police."

0:35:260:35:28

-NEWS REPORTER:

-'Despite an extra 2,500 police officers drafted in

0:35:330:35:39

'from nine forces around the country,

0:35:390:35:42

'the British Transport Police helping,

0:35:420:35:44

'the City of London police helping,

0:35:440:35:45

'it seems that the police were overwhelmed in many areas.'

0:35:450:35:50

Some expressed a hatred of the police shocking in its intensity.

0:35:530:35:58

There was one police officer that got fucked up.

0:36:010:36:04

He got licked with a brick and it hit his face and he just dropped.

0:36:040:36:08

We just ran towards them.

0:36:080:36:10

They're trying to grab him, and we're there just stamping on his face.

0:36:100:36:14

That felt good. Just the anger.

0:36:140:36:17

Riot officers all lie down on the floor.

0:36:210:36:25

They were mash up and I was laughing because they had broken foot,

0:36:250:36:30

they had cuts, they had bruises.

0:36:300:36:33

They were breathing like cows, you know, asthma attack.

0:36:330:36:36

I found that very funny, because they deserved it.

0:36:360:36:39

It's a pity one of them wasn't gone as well, for Mark's life.

0:36:390:36:41

I'm sorry, that's how I feel.

0:36:410:36:43

I think it's more about having a go at the police, you know,

0:36:490:36:52

for, like, years of abuse off the police. The police do abuse people.

0:36:520:36:56

They do, like, they take liberties.

0:36:560:36:58

Vans were going past and people were just throwing bricks at it, and you were like, it was funny, really,

0:36:580:37:02

because people were like,

0:37:020:37:04

there's probably many people who only threw one brick,

0:37:040:37:06

but they were chuffed to actually throw a brick at a police van

0:37:060:37:09

and, like, nothing happened, you know,

0:37:090:37:11

like. They actually had a little bit of a smile,

0:37:110:37:13

like they had achieved something once in their life, you know.

0:37:130:37:16

A little bit like fight back at the system. It wasn't just a riot, it was a statement.

0:37:160:37:20

If it was a statement about the police, what was it saying?

0:37:200:37:25

Many claim the way the police had behaved towards them in the past,

0:37:260:37:29

stop and search, verbal abuse, violence -

0:37:290:37:33

was a major cause of the riots.

0:37:330:37:36

But hostility to the police could also be explained

0:37:360:37:39

by many of the rioters already being criminals.

0:37:390:37:42

Three quarters of those charged with riot-related offences already had a criminal record.

0:37:440:37:50

Oi, oi, oi, stand back! Stand back!

0:37:500:37:54

Like, it was due to happen. It was due to happen.

0:37:570:38:02

Obviously, the police were taking the piss.

0:38:020:38:05

They shot some guy in Norwood. They shot some guy in North.

0:38:050:38:08

You know what I'm saying? They called it on them own selves. Leave man alone.

0:38:080:38:13

If a man's not doing nothing, just leave us, you know what I'm saying?

0:38:130:38:16

Stop harassing us for no reason. Let us sell weed, man.

0:38:160:38:19

Actually, talking about it, I need a spliff.

0:38:190:38:21

Harassing you for no reason. Why?

0:38:210:38:24

-You think the police arrest you for no reason?

-They stop and search.

0:38:240:38:27

They stop and search us for no reason. You hear what I'm saying?

0:38:270:38:31

Wasting their time doing nothing.

0:38:310:38:34

That's a hell of a lot of weed there!

0:38:370:38:41

I thought you were going to get one little bit of weed out, not 100 bags.

0:38:410:38:45

-Do you smoke? You obviously do.

-No.

0:38:450:38:48

But anger wasn't just directed towards the police.

0:38:500:38:53

Why did rioters also choose to destroy and burn property?

0:38:560:39:01

-TV REPORTER: Are you OK?

-INTERVIEWEE OVER PHONE: 'We're running because of the fire'.

0:39:080:39:14

Anna, get out of there, and we will speak to you again in a moment.

0:39:140:39:17

I can see the most horrendous fires, to be honest with you.

0:39:200:39:22

One that is burning out of control.

0:39:220:39:24

If the fire brigade don't get here soon,

0:39:240:39:26

it's anyone's guess where this will spread.

0:39:260:39:29

Yeah, we smashed up the restaurants outside.

0:39:310:39:34

Smashed up that car showroom.

0:39:340:39:37

And there were a couple of cars there that got...put on fire.

0:39:370:39:43

I think it was a Lotus. Lotus... One of them cars on fire.

0:39:430:39:49

We had matches.

0:39:490:39:53

Everybody had matches, fuel, petrol bombs.

0:39:530:39:58

Ambulances were trying to get through

0:39:580:40:01

but we was not allowing ambulances to get through. I mean, fire brigades, yeah.

0:40:010:40:05

-Why, what were you doing?

-We were blocking it.

0:40:050:40:08

We were licking bombs, putting shit in the way, everything,

0:40:080:40:11

whatever we can think of in the middle,

0:40:110:40:13

just for them not to get through.

0:40:130:40:15

Because we wanted to see everything on fire.

0:40:150:40:18

To show them, what can you do now? There's nothing you could do.

0:40:180:40:24

'I actually feel really emotional about seeing the place

0:40:260:40:29

'where I've grown up torn apart like this,

0:40:290:40:31

'and these scum should just be sorted out as soon as possible.'

0:40:310:40:35

It's just trashing, trashing it for the fun of trashing it.

0:40:380:40:41

Not for, like, financial gain or anything.

0:40:410:40:45

Some financial gain, but really, they're not going to gain much

0:40:450:40:48

when they're breaking into, like,

0:40:480:40:50

Cash Converter and pound shops, are you, really?

0:40:500:40:52

'I've never seen anything like it in my life.

0:40:580:41:00

'You can probably hear how emotional I feel.

0:41:000:41:03

'It's absolutely devastating.'

0:41:030:41:06

I saw them doing the jewellery shop.

0:41:100:41:13

I remember I saw the guy with the petrol can.

0:41:130:41:16

I said to the guy, "Why are you burning the shop?"

0:41:160:41:19

They said, "DNA, Miss." So I said, "What do you mean?"

0:41:190:41:22

They said, "When we pull up the shutters, we get cut.

0:41:220:41:25

"The police will arrest us quicker,

0:41:250:41:27

"so that is why we are setting these buildings on fire."

0:41:270:41:30

But it was their own community they were destroying.

0:41:340:41:36

The pet shop, I wasn't having it because that is my pet shop

0:41:380:41:40

and I stood firm there. My doctor's, they weren't going in my doctor's,

0:41:400:41:44

because my medical papers wasn't going on the street for people's business.

0:41:440:41:47

Things that value to me, I was protecting it.

0:41:470:41:49

'We were terrified, obviously.

0:41:530:41:54

'We could hear them saying they would start fires, and then they

0:41:540:41:58

'started to put bottles with rags in and chucking them at the buildings.

0:41:580:42:01

'At that point, we just thought, we have to get out of here.

0:42:010:42:04

'So we knocked on our neighbours' door and told them that we need to leave now.

0:42:040:42:08

I didn't do anything. I didn't do anything major.

0:42:160:42:20

Like, I done worse things in my life than rioting.

0:42:210:42:24

I tell you that from now.

0:42:240:42:26

I prevented Halfords from getting burned down, you know.

0:42:260:42:28

-That's what I did.

-How did you prevent Halfords from getting burned down?

0:42:280:42:32

Basically, some guy put petrol all over it and he asked me

0:42:320:42:36

for a lighter.

0:42:360:42:38

If I said, "Yes, I have got a light here for you,"

0:42:380:42:39

and given him a lighter, there would be no Halfords.

0:42:390:42:43

-And you said no.

-Yeah, I didn't give him the lighter.

-Why?

0:42:430:42:47

-Because you didn't want the shop to burn?

-No, bro. I didn't...

0:42:470:42:52

You think I wanted Foot Locker to get burnt down, brother?

0:42:520:42:54

Like, where am I going to go to Foot Locker, all the way in Croydon?

0:42:540:42:57

Or whatever?

0:42:570:42:58

'It seems to have calmed down slightly.

0:43:030:43:06

'The police have moved on in five or so vehicles.

0:43:060:43:12

'That means that the people who were causing all the problems ran away

0:43:120:43:15

'from that area, and because of that, they have essentially dispersed.'

0:43:150:43:19

By the end of the rioting, five people were dead

0:43:210:43:24

and nearly 2,000 crimes of arson and criminal damage had been recorded.

0:43:240:43:28

It had taken four days to gain control in London.

0:43:280:43:31

The riots outside the capital had lasted two nights.

0:43:320:43:36

What made everything stop? The shops ran out of stuff!

0:43:380:43:43

Currys went instantly. All the phone shops went instantly.

0:43:430:43:49

After all the gadgets, all the electrical stuff went, like.

0:43:490:43:53

But me and Becky, we hid stuff in a skip.

0:43:550:43:59

And we went back down there in a cab

0:43:590:44:01

and we saw there were still people looting the hairdressers.

0:44:010:44:04

I was like, "Oh, my God, what are you doing?

0:44:040:44:06

"It's like one o'clock in the morning." It's mad. It's mad.

0:44:060:44:10

Often loaded down with stolen goods, the rioters made their way home.

0:44:120:44:17

We were busting red lights and that.

0:44:210:44:24

Roads were derelict, dead. Tumbleweed.

0:44:240:44:27

When you're driving like this in the car, what are you talking about?

0:44:270:44:31

Well, I was singing, playing music. I was singing, smoking.

0:44:310:44:35

-So a happy mood in the car?

-Yeah.

0:44:370:44:39

We hadn't killed anyone, know what I'm saying?

0:44:420:44:45

I was happy. I was overjoyed. I was so happy, I was like, yeah.

0:44:460:44:52

It just felt so good, I don't know. I felt so good, I was like, yes.

0:44:520:44:57

There was loads of undercover police and like,

0:44:570:45:00

can't really just walk out with two big bags full of stolen goods.

0:45:000:45:05

So we had to run all the way from Croydon all the way back here.

0:45:050:45:09

It's just scary, because you see helicopters flying about.

0:45:090:45:13

Had to hide in bushes and everything. It was crazy.

0:45:130:45:18

And you're just scared, because everyone's hooded up

0:45:180:45:21

and you're walking through these dark streets,

0:45:210:45:23

and because they're all hooded up and everything

0:45:230:45:25

and you're thinking, "Oh, my God, they could drag me into a bush

0:45:250:45:28

"and rape me and do whatever they want, like."

0:45:280:45:30

-I got two plasmas.

-OK.

-So I was satisfied.

0:45:320:45:36

I shot it the next day for like, shot it for like £300 each.

0:45:360:45:41

I was happy with that steal.

0:45:410:45:44

To be honest, at that time,

0:45:440:45:46

I didn't think no-one was going to get caught.

0:45:460:45:48

I didn't think they were going to wake up in the morning and start nicking these man or these man.

0:45:480:45:52

I just thought "Nothing's going to happen."

0:45:520:45:55

Know what I'm saying? I just thought "It's in our control now."

0:45:550:46:00

But obviously, it flipped.

0:46:000:46:02

The riots had ended, but the rioters were not to be left alone.

0:46:050:46:09

The Government announced its intention to leave no stone unturned

0:46:090:46:13

in its effort to find those who had taken part.

0:46:130:46:16

A massive police investigation cranked into action.

0:46:200:46:23

'Couple weeks later, I woke up in the morning, about half seven.

0:46:300:46:36

'I couldn't get back to sleep,

0:46:360:46:38

'so I rolled a cannabis joint to try and get back to sleep.

0:46:380:46:43

'While I was smoking it, police knocked on my door.'

0:46:430:46:46

Boom, boom, boom, nuh, nuh, nuh.

0:46:460:46:49

So then, as I opened the door, I said, "Why, what's this about?"

0:46:490:46:54

And they said, "Talk to you once we get in."

0:46:540:46:57

-Were you there on your own?

-Yeah.

0:46:570:47:00

So I just opened the door, let them in,

0:47:000:47:03

and they said that, "I'm arresting you on suspicion of burglary

0:47:030:47:07

"of £60,000 worth of phones."

0:47:070:47:11

I was like, "60 grand?!"

0:47:110:47:12

I said, "What, do you reckon I would be here if I had that?

0:47:120:47:15

"Do you reckon that?" I said, "Come on now, man," I said,

0:47:150:47:17

"I would have moved out of this country by now."

0:47:170:47:20

A couple of weeks later, Becky came to my house and was like,

0:47:260:47:32

and said to me, "Oh, I was, I was on...

0:47:320:47:35

"There was a picture of me in Croydon."

0:47:350:47:39

And I was like, "Oh, my God, if you're there, I must be there, cos I was with you."

0:47:390:47:42

So she was like, "Check out this website."

0:47:420:47:44

And I was like, "Oh, my God, I'm on it". Like, I'm on it.

0:47:440:47:48

It was a photograph of me outside, just, like, ten minutes away,

0:47:480:47:54

all from...away from the shops, but I had, like, five,

0:47:540:47:57

six pairs of shoes in my hand.

0:47:570:47:59

And that was blatantly obviously, they were stolen.

0:47:590:48:03

And then someone asked me for a pair and I gave them a pair,

0:48:030:48:07

and the street cameras caught my face.

0:48:070:48:10

And that's how I got caught.

0:48:100:48:12

They got nothing on me. I was all covered up. They can't do shit.

0:48:120:48:17

I covered my hands, my face, glasses on. Everything.

0:48:170:48:21

And the clothes I was wearing that day,

0:48:210:48:23

I was just throwing them in the bin and burning them.

0:48:230:48:27

Apparently, there was rewards going round, like money.

0:48:280:48:33

That's what I heard.

0:48:330:48:34

And I thought, if teacher could see me or anyone,

0:48:340:48:37

then basically that would be a worser thing for me.

0:48:370:48:41

And then... So I told my mum. I was like, "Mum, are you going to be mad?"

0:48:410:48:45

And I think my mum was going to...

0:48:450:48:46

I think my mum was going to be like, "What is she going to tell me?

0:48:460:48:49

"She's pregnant or something."

0:48:490:48:51

I was like, "Mum, don't be mad, but I went looting."

0:48:510:48:54

And she was like, "What?!"

0:48:540:48:56

She went mad, but after a while, she was like, "Why did you do it?"

0:48:560:49:01

-My mum doesn't even know I was in the riots.

-Your mum doesn't?

0:49:040:49:07

What does she think I'm talking to you about? What does she think I'm talking to you about?

0:49:070:49:11

-I told her what you was talking to me about.

-The riots?

-Yeah.

0:49:110:49:14

But she doesn't know that you were a participant?

0:49:140:49:17

-No, I just told her that I was.

-Just now.

-Yeah.

-Oh, God!

0:49:170:49:20

-Your timing's great, isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:49:200:49:22

Over 5,000 would be arrested,

0:49:230:49:26

resulting in more than 1,900 convictions,

0:49:260:49:30

and over 1,200 going to jail so far.

0:49:300:49:34

Rioting was seen as an aggravating factor.

0:49:340:49:37

Sentences were longer and more people were sent to prison

0:49:370:49:40

than would normally be expected for the same charges under different circumstances.

0:49:400:49:45

My friends just decide to go in police station

0:49:450:49:49

and told what we'd just done.

0:49:490:49:51

And we went to the Crown Court and they decide us,

0:49:510:49:58

our sentence will be 12 month.

0:49:580:50:01

Judge says us that if it will be normal, yeah,

0:50:010:50:06

but it will be like, we won't be imprisoned,

0:50:060:50:11

and maybe it will be like community service, something like this.

0:50:110:50:19

So I think it is very harsh.

0:50:190:50:20

I think the only time I cried in jail was when I first come

0:50:220:50:26

and it was my dad's birthday, and my dad's dead, innit?

0:50:260:50:30

The best thing to do is not think about it, just have a laugh

0:50:300:50:33

and try and have a joke with, like, the person next door in your cell.

0:50:330:50:37

I've had people in my school come up to me and like, "Oh, my God,

0:50:370:50:41

"your picture's on..." My picture's in the paper, cos most of them

0:50:410:50:45

found out I handed myself in or they found out I went looting.

0:50:450:50:49

And they're all showing off, like, "Oh, look at my shoes,

0:50:490:50:53

"look at my bag, look at my bag, look at the clothes that I got."

0:50:530:50:57

And I just thought, like, "You went that low?

0:50:570:50:59

"Are you that poor that you can't buy your clothes?

0:50:590:51:03

"Like, you went that low?"

0:51:030:51:04

As the courts coped with the unprecedented demand on their time,

0:51:080:51:11

an examination of the riots began.

0:51:110:51:14

What both the authorities

0:51:160:51:17

and the public wanted to know was, why had so many people

0:51:170:51:21

in so many different areas shown such violence and caused so much damage?

0:51:210:51:26

'A report panel received a range of answers,

0:51:310:51:34

'from fancying a new pair of trainers

0:51:340:51:35

'to a desire to attack society.'

0:51:350:51:38

'What in these few days in the summer caused the trouble that spread so fast?

0:51:400:51:45

'A series of chance events, opportunism, gangs, Facebook?'

0:51:450:51:49

Police drive past this estate, you get me?

0:51:500:51:52

Look at me, you get me, like?

0:51:520:51:53

We're rats in a lab, you understand?

0:51:530:51:55

You get me, like? Come look on us, you get me, like?

0:51:550:51:58

We're animals in a zoo and all that, you understand?

0:51:580:52:00

We're normal people just trying to make a life for ourselves

0:52:000:52:03

-when there's no opportunities out there.

-Opportunities like...?

0:52:030:52:06

No job opportunities, no apprenticeships for the youth now.

0:52:060:52:10

Youth get frustrated. That's why the riots happen, innit?

0:52:100:52:13

You're not only seeing black people rioting.

0:52:130:52:15

You're seeing all different ethnicities rioting,

0:52:150:52:17

all going through the same pain.

0:52:170:52:19

The next day, you're seeing on the news, JDs,

0:52:190:52:21

you're seeing middle-class people running in the shop,

0:52:210:52:23

all going for it, not just black people.

0:52:230:52:25

Everyone is going for it right now, you understand? And that's just what it is.

0:52:250:52:29

Some did it for the money. They did it...easy money.

0:52:310:52:34

A lot of people talking about the Government.

0:52:350:52:37

Nothing to do with no government.

0:52:370:52:39

Nobody is thinking about the Government.

0:52:390:52:40

When I got the phone call, nobody was thinking about the Government.

0:52:400:52:44

No college fees or no bullshit. That's an excuse.

0:52:440:52:48

Why are you going to raise tuition fees for?

0:52:480:52:50

Put more people on the streets? That's not right.

0:52:500:52:53

How many protests have we had, this country had,

0:52:530:52:56

and nothing's gone our way?

0:52:560:52:57

And then when we turn to violence...

0:52:570:52:59

What else are you meant to turn to?

0:52:590:53:01

Are we meant to just chill there and speak quietly and say yeah?

0:53:010:53:04

So you know what? Fuck this. We'll do it our way.

0:53:040:53:07

The exact circumstances surrounding the shooting of Mark Duggan

0:53:070:53:12

are still being investigated

0:53:120:53:13

by the Independent Police Complaints Commission.

0:53:130:53:15

His death may have sparked the riots in Tottenham,

0:53:170:53:20

but it didn't explain the scale of what happened afterwards.

0:53:200:53:23

What I'm really upset about is that they didn't do it right

0:53:240:53:27

and there's greedy kids out there who was doing it for pleasure,

0:53:270:53:32

and they should have left the shops and concentrate on fighting the police.

0:53:320:53:35

They was fighting the police for a rightful cause.

0:53:350:53:37

The shops did not trouble them.

0:53:370:53:39

That's the shops their mums and their gran have to go to.

0:53:390:53:41

The post office now - they've got grandparents -

0:53:410:53:43

there's no post office for the elderly.

0:53:430:53:46

Should have got it right, man.

0:53:490:53:50

I just regret it all. I just feel sorry for all the shops in Croydon.

0:53:550:54:01

I just feel like, when I go past and I see Currys all boarded up,

0:54:010:54:05

I was like, "I was there on that night."

0:54:050:54:08

To think that I went that low to go steal in these shops,

0:54:080:54:16

when they're, like...

0:54:160:54:18

basically, that's their business.

0:54:180:54:22

That's how they're providing for their families,

0:54:220:54:24

and we've basically ruined that and they've got to start from scratch.

0:54:240:54:28

So that's made me think in life like...

0:54:280:54:30

It just made me think twice about what I'm actually going to do,

0:54:300:54:37

before I actually do it.

0:54:370:54:39

I don't know why people... My God. I don't know why people do this.

0:54:450:54:51

'I'm ashamed of myself for being involved, innit?'

0:54:540:54:58

I just went there to be a slut. I admit it, yeah?

0:54:580:55:02

I know it was wrong and that's why I'm here, yeah?

0:55:020:55:04

Because I wanted to be a slut. It's not good, is it?

0:55:040:55:07

At least I can tell my kids when I'm older,

0:55:070:55:10

like, and my grandkids, like,

0:55:100:55:12

I've been involved in a riot before.

0:55:120:55:15

Nice little story for them, isn't it?

0:55:150:55:18

You know, like World War II and that with my great-grandads and stuff,

0:55:180:55:22

I hear about and think, "Oh, I heard about them riots in 2011."

0:55:220:55:26

How do you feel about your involvement in the riots?

0:55:280:55:34

-I don't feel about it.

-OK, and...

0:55:340:55:36

Because if you felt about it, you'd think twice, wouldn't you?

0:55:360:55:39

You don't think twice when you go and kill an enemy.

0:55:390:55:41

You think about it, it'd stop you, wouldn't it?

0:55:410:55:45

What did friends and family think about?

0:55:450:55:48

-I don't talk to them about my issues.

-OK, cool.

0:55:480:55:52

My mother's dead, my father's dead, my wife died six years ago.

0:55:520:55:55

First my mother died, then my father died seven months later,

0:55:550:55:59

then my wife died nine months later,

0:55:590:56:00

then my dog died a fucking year later.

0:56:000:56:02

I don't give a fuck. I've got nothing to lose.

0:56:020:56:05

'This isn't about politics, this isn't about poverty.

0:56:060:56:10

'It's just sheer evil, it's sheer nastiness.

0:56:100:56:12

'There's no conscience about it, either.'

0:56:120:56:15

My parents can't control me. I live with them, but they can't control me.

0:56:170:56:21

I control myself.

0:56:210:56:23

I do not regret it.

0:56:230:56:25

If it was to happen again, I would happily join it.

0:56:250:56:29

Anything against the police, I would happily join.

0:56:290:56:32

Everybody feels happy that it happened. Everyone.

0:56:320:56:37

There was no official government enquiry after the riots,

0:56:380:56:42

but there were reports by other bodies.

0:56:420:56:44

Like the people in this film,

0:56:450:56:47

the reports pointed to a range of possible reasons.

0:56:470:56:51

Opportunism, social deprivation, discontent with the police,

0:56:510:56:55

unemployment and a lack of morality, amongst others.

0:56:550:56:59

But none could pinpoint a single overwhelming cause

0:56:590:57:02

for what happened over those five days in August.

0:57:020:57:06

You know, sitting down here talking about this

0:57:090:57:12

is just frustrating as well -

0:57:120:57:13

you're talking about it, people are interviewing you, but nothing ain't going to change.

0:57:130:57:17

Nothing will change, except for a couple of years down the line,

0:57:170:57:20

the next man's going to be dead and we're going to be sitting down here talking about the same thing again.

0:57:200:57:24

You get me? There are different people I know that died in the hood,

0:57:240:57:27

and look at their case and what's come out of it. Nothing.

0:57:270:57:30

Even though I hope some good comes out of it.

0:57:300:57:32

I hope good comes out of it.

0:57:320:57:34

-Hope is a four-letter word, but it is a big thing.

-Trust.

0:57:360:57:41

Go on.

0:57:410:57:43

-I'm done.

-Doing good, man.

-I helped you out, man.

0:57:430:57:47

No, man, I gave it to you. I'm going home, you know.

0:57:470:57:51

I gave you some good lingo there, darling.

0:57:520:57:55

Next in this series, a very different story.

0:58:060:58:08

The riots through the eyes of the police.

0:58:080:58:11

The van was getting constantly pelted.

0:58:130:58:15

My colleague screamed, "I'm being attacked."

0:58:150:58:18

This machete had just appeared through this hole in the window

0:58:180:58:21

and it started hacking at his hand.

0:58:210:58:23

# Paint me a picture that I can see

0:58:250:58:28

# Give me a touch that I can feel

0:58:300:58:33

# Turn me around so I can be

0:58:340:58:38

# Everything I was meant to be... #

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