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-DAVID CAMERON: -Now the fires have been put out | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
and the smoke has cleared, | 0:00:07 | 0:00:08 | |
the question hangs in the air - why? How could this happen on our streets and in our country? | 0:00:08 | 0:00:15 | |
Last summer, England suffered the worst riots in a generation. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:22 | |
In this series, we're going to get the dramatic first-hand accounts of those who were there - | 0:00:22 | 0:00:27 | |
the police and the rioters. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
First, the rioters. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
-Just checking it's recording. -Mic check. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:39 | |
What I'm trying to establish, right, | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
I think what we're all trying to establish, | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
is why it spread where it spread, and how it spread. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
Because it is easy...money, | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
easy...money, | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
easy money. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
Two months after those five violent days in August, | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
researchers began interviewing rioters. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
The aim? To get them to explain in their own words what happened and why. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:08 | |
These are some of those interviews, recreated using actors. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:13 | |
-It was like Demolition Man. Have you seen Demolition Man? -No. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
Well, there's a higher class and a lower class. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
The lower class gained the power. That day, we had the power. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
Most of those interviewed had not been arrested | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
and all spoke after being promised anonymity. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
Much of what they say is shocking. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
But it adds up to a unique insight into why our streets saw such violence. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:38 | |
Anything gets the police out, I'll happily join. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
Just that rush, where you think, "Oh, my God, you can get anything." | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
It was quite enjoyable. It was really enjoyable, actually. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
'Opportunist. I had to grab it.' | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
You don't get to run riot like that every day. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
This is what happened, according to those who took part. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
The riots. In their own words. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
This programme contains strong language. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:10 | |
'This evening, there is some unrest in the Tottenham area in North London. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:39 | |
'Here's what we know so far...' | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
'..followed protests about the shooting dead by police on Thursday | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
'of a local man, Mark Duggan...' | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
On 6th August last year, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
about 120 people gathered outside Tottenham Police Station in London. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:55 | |
They had marched from Broadwater Farm Estate | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
to protest at the shooting by police of local man Mark Duggan. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
-WOMAN INTERVIEWER: -All right, so what did you do? | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
Basically, we went down to the... on the protest with the family, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:16 | |
asking for answers. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
We went down there to talk to one of the head police officers | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
and they said it would be a few hours. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
Ended up, we was waiting for about five hours, that's right, yeah? | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
We was there for five hours, one of the head police comes out and says, | 0:03:27 | 0:03:32 | |
"The police can't deal with this right now," | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
we have to come back another day. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:36 | |
-D'you know what I mean? -People started to stand in the middle of the road | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
to stop the traffic, so at that time, people was getting angry. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:44 | |
Wait, why were people doing that? | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
To show them we're serious, that we're not going to go away. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
'..100 protesters are currently | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
'gathering outside the police station that's on the High Road | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
'in Tottenham in north London...' | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
I remember myself personally lying in the middle of the street | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
spread-eagle, no traffic's not passing here, I don't care. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
I lie down in the road, then other mums joined me. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
Got to about maybe nine o'clock. Say after eight, nine o'clock. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:17 | |
And I remember the chief of police, whoever it was, wasn't coming again. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -What did you think when you first heard about it? -Go to war. -OK. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
-We're still being held down, home. You know what I'm saying? -Sure. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
-Still getting bullshitted. -Mm-hmm. What did you do? | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
Did you... Did you go anywhere when you heard...? | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
Yeah, jumped in a vehicle, about six geezers, went down there. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
-OK, where? -Where do you expect? -I'm thinking Tottenham... | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
-Straight to the damage zone. -I don't want to put words in your mouth. -The combat zone. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
-So, do you mean Tottenham? -Yeah. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
People just started to come from everywhere. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
-What was the atmosphere like? -Very tense. -Very tense. -A lot of anger. | 0:04:55 | 0:05:01 | |
Frustration in the air. There was a lot of...tension. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
There was a lot of anger, innit? | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
I grew up with Mark, yeah? | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
And we're used to being roughed up by the police. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
We're used to being stopped by the police. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
Even harassed, abused by them. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
Even in the early days, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:24 | |
maybe a little dig by the police by them punching us, or... | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
You get me? Having their little wicked way, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
but it's like they've taken foul play to a whole new level. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
You see what I'm saying? | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
If this was Camden or the City of Westminster, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
or where does the Queen live? | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
-What's that? Buckingham, wherever the hell that is, yeah... -Westminster. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
Westminster's a different thing, blud. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
Cos if the Queen was to die now, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
there'll be a big massive inqu... Like, come on! | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
If the Queen was to get snipered, it'd be a madness. You get me, like? | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
There's going to be some outcome quicker than what happened with Mark. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
'Two police cars, a shop and a bus have been set on fire | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
'during a demonstration outside a police station in north London...' | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
-CALLER ON RADIO: -'I have seen the riot police. They're not moving. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
'They're not attempting to clear people, but they're making their presence known.' | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
'I saw a couple of youths run across to the grocery shops | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
'and they were handing over £5 | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
'and picking up crates of apples, crates of oranges,' | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
stacking them up. And I thought, yeah. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
And people started throwing weapons. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
And I knew something was going to take place | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
because I could see by the youths gathering, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
and that's when I knew, this was war. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
-CALLER ON RADIO: -'There seems to be a lot of anger in Tottenham tonight. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
'There are a lot of people there saying, "Come on," you know, "This is our chance," | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
'and they keep running at the police line...' | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
Word of the violence spread and attracted more people to the scene, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
including those who were just curious. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
-Come and say hello? -Hello. -Hello. -This is Brendan. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:13 | |
He's doing an interview on me. And anyone else who was involved... | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
-An interview on you? -Because I was at the Tottenham riot. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
-CALLER ON THE RADIO: -'There's fires, there's three police cars on fire, blown up. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
'Shops are getting broken into. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
'I mean, it's absolutely mad down here.' | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
It was quite striking because it was literally | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
one of those situations where my 14-year-old brought me her phone | 0:07:37 | 0:07:43 | |
with a picture of a burning car and said, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
"Mum, that's on Tottenham High Road. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
I saw the picture, and I said to my daughter, "Do you want to go there, and see what's going on?" | 0:07:47 | 0:07:53 | |
-So we did, on our bikes. -Yeah. -And, um... | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
on the way down, I lost my daughter | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
because of the crowds who were on the High Road. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
'And a few minutes later, she phoned me up to tell me off for being such a bad mother | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
'for losing her in a crowd in a potentially dangerous situation.' | 0:08:06 | 0:08:11 | |
'I went into the corner of a little shop | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
'because I didn't want nothing to blow up and burn me up. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
'So I stood in a little shop, but while we was in the shop, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
'we was like nurses because all the wounded was coming to us. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
'I saw guys' | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
with their hands sliced open, skin hanging off. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
I took them ice water, I washed their wounds, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
I said, "You need to go to the hospital. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
"And...those that are not that injured, go back and fight," | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
cos I didn't care. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:40 | |
I think the policemen deserve a bloody good hiding. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
That's what Bernie Grant says. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:44 | |
Because they have no right to go and kill no-one. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
-There's no gang involvement. -They say that. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
Tottenham wasn't really organised like that. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
It's not a gang round here. We're all family and friends, mainly. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
It's not a thing like that, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:02 | |
where people call us gangs, we're just a group of friends | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
what are family orientated through blood. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
-CALLER ON THE RADIO: -'Mate, it's an absolute war zone. I walked up there. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
'I saw about five youths, all faces covered up. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
'They set a wheelie bin on fire and threw it into the riot police.' | 0:09:17 | 0:09:23 | |
'I saw about 16 men,' | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
all in grey tracksuit. They came from N16. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
They said, "We're here to help you." Men came from other parts. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
They said that, "Today, we are putting down the postcode war. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
"We're here to help you." And I call them soldiers. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
Could have been their brother, could have been... | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
because it was a black man that got... | 0:09:43 | 0:09:44 | |
black young boy that got killed, you know, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
and that's why they got involved. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
And they stood united together on the front line | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
and was pelting the police. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
And that was really, really nice. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
-There was a lot of stupidity going on, so... -Why do you think? | 0:09:55 | 0:10:00 | |
-Because there was a lot of lost innocent souls... -It was money, man. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
They just wanted money. I spoke to someone who worked in the Jobcentre, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
and they said it was copper and lead they took. Do you know what I mean? | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
Everybody had their own reasons, and I guarantee you, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
about 80% of them never had nothing to do with Mark, really. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
Like, I'm sure Mark wouldn't have liked it if people's houses | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
were getting burnt down in his name. You see where I'm coming from? | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
'The news you're waking up to this Sunday morning is, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
'there have been riots overnight in North London. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
'Petrol bombs were thrown at police. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
'Patrol cars, a bus and buildings | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
'on Tottenham High Road were set on fire...' | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
-TEARFUL WOMAN: -'We were trying to get out of the building, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
'you know, we were in such a panic. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
'And then we got outside and then I saw the building. It had flames going up the building. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:50 | |
'You know, ten minutes longer in that...in that building | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
'and we would have been dead.' | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
More than 40 people were arrested | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
and 26 police officers injured. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
What no-one guessed was that Tottenham would be the trigger | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
for a further four days of rioting across England. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
At first, in other parts of London, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
and then Birmingham, Liverpool and Manchester, amongst other areas. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
Some took to the streets after hearing the news | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
on television, radio and websites, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
while others alerted each other by phone messaging. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
'Well, I got a BC on my Blackberry' | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
handheld...internet | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
or handheld devices. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
Um, I didn't believe it. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
But then I started getting numerous broadcasts, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
so I thought, let's just delve a bit deeper into this. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
-The day before, were you aware there was rioting in Tottenham?? -Yeah. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
Like, the guy that got shot or something. Yeah. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
And were you expecting this to happen? | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
Yeah, I was, but not on the scale that it happened, though. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
When we seen everything's happening in Tottenham, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
everyone just clicked and said, "Yeah, this is our chance." | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
Fuck up feds and... | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
and do our thing, basically, do what we have to do. Cause mayhem. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
Cos it felt like we was on a leash for years | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
and it felt like we've come off that leash | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
and we just responded in that way. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
If some welcomed the opportunity, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
others said their involvement was not so calculated. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
The week that the riots started and thing, you know, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
in between, my aunt was on holiday or something like that, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:39 | |
and she went and got my medication from the doctor's, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
because I've got mental health issues, innit. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
-Right. -Took them home, | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
forgot about them, went on holiday, and I run out. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
So I had a week with no medication, and during that week, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
the riots happened. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
'..actually, people are coming from other parts of London | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
'to join in with this, which implies the situation's escalating...' | 0:13:02 | 0:13:07 | |
'EVERYONE met up from EVERY single area.' | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
There was a lot. There was at least 200 of us, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
because it's not just my area that linked up. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
We linked up with a couple of other estates. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
There was no plan. The only plan was to meet up. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
-Can I ask you, then, let's say the day of the Bromley riots... -Mm-hmm. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:29 | |
..can you remember what you were doing that morning? | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
I was with my girlfriend. Doing something naughty. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:37 | |
OK, fair enough, I won't ask you for details. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
And then how did that day then evolve? What happened next? | 0:13:42 | 0:13:48 | |
Er...I know I shouldn't, I'm a naughty boy, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
but my girlfriend went home and I went to meet another girl. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:56 | |
In Bromley. Because I never knew it was happening in Bromley. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
-Right, OK. -Yeah, but... it was madness in Bromley. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
So, I mean, she couldn't come. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
It wasn't like I went there with a big gang, like, all my boys, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
and started terrorising Bromley. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
I went there, literally, to be a slut. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
-Everyone starts messaging, saying it's all happened. -Yeah. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
What were they messaging you saying? What had happened? | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
Terror. Riots in Brixton. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
-Yeah, it's kicking off, basically. -What did you think | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
when you got that message, or those messages? | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
I was thinking, I'm going back there. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
I had nothing to do. I weren't tired. Fuck it. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
The crowds gathering on the streets were a mix of races. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
Most were young men or boys, and many were students. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
But there were also families and older local residents. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
Even many rioters would later speak of a party atmosphere | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
and of warring gangs suspending their hostilities. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
Every type of person was there. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
There was some guy in shorts, flip-flops and a straw hat. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:13 | |
-A white guy? -Yeah, a white guy. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
Flip-flops, he was wearing. Flip-flops, shorts and a straw hat. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
It was really interesting. I'm a parent governor in a local school | 0:15:20 | 0:15:25 | |
and I saw numerous people from there. I saw loads of people. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
Loads of people came up to me and said, "Mum, what are you doing here? | 0:15:28 | 0:15:33 | |
"Don't you think you should go home?" | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
-You are a bit old for the riots. -It was quite enjoyable. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
It was really enjoyable, actually. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
'People are having what I can only describe as a good time, by the looks on their faces.' | 0:15:43 | 0:15:49 | |
I was like, "Oh, my God, why are you here? Why are you here?" | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
It was like a big joke. I was joking around. "I'm telling your mum you're here." | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
At one stage, it was like a street party | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
cos there was alcohol everywhere. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
'There are so many youths out there who have got knapsacks on, bottles. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
'It looks like they're going to a party.' | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
I just went down there as a spectator. I really did at first. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
I think most of us spectators did exactly the same. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
Came along, just to watch, but found ourselves wound up in it. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
Even though there was a majority of boys and girls, | 0:16:30 | 0:16:35 | |
there was a big majority of big people, like women, men, mothers... | 0:16:35 | 0:16:42 | |
-Older. -Older, 30, 30-year-olds. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
People that were enemies, they were all meeting up as friends. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
No war that day, them days. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
They're warring now, but not them days. In times like that, they unite. | 0:16:54 | 0:17:00 | |
Times like what? | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
To make free money, and it's easy. You get free TVs, free laptops. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
-Would you not do it? -Certainly not. -If you could get away with it? | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
Shops would be the prime target. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
Local shops on high streets, shops the rioters might buy | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
their clothes from, shops with high-value electrical goods. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:23 | |
But why did thousands of people seize the opportunity to loot? | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
Everyone was scared to start it off. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
And then police were there for about ten minutes. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
And then all of a sudden, they disappeared, so it all kicked off. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:40 | |
-So, yeah, someone dashed a stone at a Maplin's window. -Really? | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
And then it all kicked off. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
'The scene which is in front of me is abject criminality. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
'There are at least a couple of hundred youths, | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
'they have balaclavas, they have scarves, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
'and they are basically smashing into any shop that they so choose.' | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
-What did you see outside? -Everyone was looting. -What were you doing? | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
And enjoying themselves. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
What was the conversation between you and your friends when you were watching this happen? | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
"I'm going to get four TVs." "I'm going to get five." | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
"Have you been in there yet?" "No." "I'm not going in there." "Why?" "Cos it's too peak." | 0:18:21 | 0:18:27 | |
It wasn't no drama, no stress, everyone had the power. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
Everyone had the strength. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:32 | |
The police wasn't in control. We had the power. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
'Every single shop I've just passed in the last two minutes has had its windows caved in. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:44 | |
'Iron railings buckled. There are groups of youths helping themselves. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
'I saw a Tesco with its entire front...' | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
I took a TV that day. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
Taking off in a van, going home, dropping shit off, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
coming back, doing it again, boom. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
'They are helping themselves to everything in these shops. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
'A jeweller's been knocked over. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
'One of the supermarket trolleys is being laden with whatever they can get their hands on.' | 0:19:09 | 0:19:14 | |
My pal, obviously, kicked in some windows, some caf, got some wine, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
got some champagne. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
Yeah. And then move on to the next shop. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
Obviously, I had a couple of munchies. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
Obviously got some Haribos. The guy opened the tills. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
Obviously, took the money. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
'I see my wife, who has worked for 20 years, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
'came to this country with nothing | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
'and built up a small empire of restaurants | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
'which she runs single-handedly, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
'and to have people trash, mindless vandalism, to wreck, to rob, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
'to loot from her... You can probably hear the emotion in my voice | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
'because I'm so upset about this.' | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
Some said they never planned to loot, but were swept away by what was happening around them. | 0:19:55 | 0:20:01 | |
I see a police car drive past, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
people putting bricks through the police car, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
so I thought, "What is happening? | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
"Is this how they're going on, yeah?" | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
So I was like, "Right, this is crazy, I need to get out of it | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
"cos I'll end up getting myself nicked, yeah?" | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
So then I try, but you can't leave. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
Then I just don't know, something switched off in my brain | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
and I was just... | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
Felt like walking in a phone shop. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
So, you know... It was...a little bit drunk, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:44 | |
we decide, why not? Something new, adrenaline rush. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
And the shop was half open, yeah? | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
So we just grab inside, took some stuff, | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
DVDs, you know, game stuff. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
The shops, people coming out of shops | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
and just leaving stuff on the floor. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
What I was actually doing, right, I actually found this iPod | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
and as I picked it up, this girl was looking at me. I just gave it to her. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
I went in one of the shops, like, took a load of cigarettes, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
and actually gave it to the people when I came out. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
I actually gave it to this old woman. Kept one packet for myself, pack of 40. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:21 | |
I was scared. "I don't want to do it, Becky. I don't want to do it." | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
But then, after it all kicked off and everyone was doing it, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
after everyone was doing it, you just joined in and it felt fine, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
it just felt natural, like you was naturally shopping. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
Like it was just a normal day and Becky was like to me, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
"Come, let's go and rob a shop." I was like, "Are you crazy?" | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
But because everyone was doing it, I thought, | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
if everyone was doing that and no-one is getting caught at the time, why can't I do it? | 0:21:47 | 0:21:52 | |
The normal rules of behaviour had been thrown out. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
I was seeing people fucking 70 years old, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
walking in JD with their... | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
You know them... What's them pulling things that they use? | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
Like a little trolley, looks like a suitcase? | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
-Yeah, like a bag on wheels, yeah. You know them bags? -I do, yeah. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
They were just filling stuff up and walking out. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
I'm thinking, "These are just old people and they're still robbing." | 0:22:19 | 0:22:24 | |
I thought, "This is crazy!" | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
It's just that adrenaline... I can't say the word. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
It's just like that rush where you think, "Oh, my God, you can get anything." | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
iPhones, phones, any BlackBerries, TVs... | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
You just think, "Wow, I'm getting all this free stuff," | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
and you're not going to get caught because so many people are doing it. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
'The scene which is in front of me is like the Wild West. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
'It is completely and utterly lawless.' | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
So you've covered up, gone into the phone shop, and then what happened? | 0:22:57 | 0:23:02 | |
It was already open. It was already ransacked and that. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
But you know when you're just nosy and you're in the middle of it. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
I just popped in there, see what was happening, it was just crazy. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
-All empty and that. -At what point did you think you'd had enough? | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
I had enough soon as I got there. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
I couldn't be bothered with it, because I knew if I'm here | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
and I'm not on my tablets, then I'm going to get into trouble. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
But I just overpowered what was happening. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
The unprecedented scale and spread of the rioting | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
meant there were not enough police to cope in some areas. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
A number of rioters spoke of being at first confused | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
and then encouraged by what they thought was a weak response. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
'I cannot see one single police officer in this stretch. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:54 | |
'I can see no flashing blue lights. I can see no riot police on the street. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:59 | |
'I can see no vans. The people here are basically free to do as they want.' | 0:23:59 | 0:24:04 | |
The police saw me with my TV and a couple of trainers, yeah? | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
They wasn't doing anything. They was looking. It was like, "Huh-huh." They just drove off. Right, cool. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:15 | |
"If they're doing this, then it's OK for everyone else to do it." | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
'To say that the police are stretched here, I don't think would be a fabrication of the truth. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:24 | |
'It is as clear as the nose on your face. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
'There are not enough officers at the moment to deal with this trouble.' | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
Because there's no police around, it was like, free stuff. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
I went into a clothes shop and then I went into John Lewis | 0:24:38 | 0:24:44 | |
and apart from that, I was just outside, holding everyone's stuff that I was with. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
I was really shocked about this behaviour of these people | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
and behaviour of police because they were ready | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
to just stand and watch what's going on. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
They... I think they didn't do enough to stop this. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:09 | |
I think in my country, police would just use plastic bullets, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
gas, or these water pipes. Something like this. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
-Cannons. -Yes. I was really surprised by the police. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:22 | |
The police were not everywhere. But CCTV was. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:29 | |
Looters who didn't cover up were having their identities silently recorded. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:34 | |
At one point, I think, "Am I going to get caught? | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
"Am I going to get caught?" I was like, "Oh, my God, what have I done?" | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
You don't think about the CCTV. When you're inside the shop, you think, | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
"I'm going to hide my face", but when you're out of the shop, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
you're hot and exhausted from running round the shop. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
And then you come out of the shop | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
and you pull down your bandana or hood or whatever | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
and then there's cameras outside the shop. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
I was on the precinct myself. I was putting cameras out of action. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
Cos these kids are going to get themselves arrested. Just pushing the cameras into the air, CCTV. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:16 | |
So they couldn't be caught, obviously. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
I don't want them getting arrested. Half of them are probably like myself, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
just came outside to see what was going on and got dragged into it. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
ALARM BLEEPS | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
A trolley! Supermarket sweep! | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
Supermarket sweep! Go, Dale! Go! | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
For one rioter, the looting was an opportunity to take revenge. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
I targeted the ones that I had the problems with. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
That's what I targeted. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
All the people that take the piss about me looking young | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
and not getting served cigarettes and taking the piss, their shops got fucked up. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:58 | |
They always ask me for ID, like. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
The thing is, "I've showed you ID before, don't need to show you my ID again." | 0:27:00 | 0:27:05 | |
And they'll get rude after I say that. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
So I'm like, "Cool, one day your time will come". And their time come. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:12 | |
JD Sports, I looted JD Sports | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
because they didn't want to recruit me when I tried to find a job. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
So I just got them back for what they done, basically. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
Next, Next, tried to break into it, broke into it, broke it, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
lifted it up, I started smashing up the whole place | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
cos they didn't employ me. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:29 | |
They made me buy new shoes and a new suit for me, for them to say no to me. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:35 | |
No way! No way! | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
Everything started clicking back that day. Yeah. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
Started clicking back. Say "Yeah, you. You." | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
WOMAN: 'It's absolutely disgusting. They are feral rats. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
'Those children should be at home. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
'They shouldn't be out here causing mayhem. I'm absolutely livid.' | 0:27:55 | 0:28:00 | |
-What are you thinking whilst you're doing this? -What was I thinking?! | 0:28:07 | 0:28:12 | |
To be honest, I wasn't thinking anything. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
-What was your motivation then, to do it? -Cos everyone else was doing it. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:20 | |
Say for instance, you're standing outside a bank, yeah, | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
there's no police or nothing, and you see people going in the bank | 0:28:24 | 0:28:29 | |
and come back with wads of money in their hand, what would you do? | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
I don't think I would have gone in it. I don't think so, no. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
I wasn't there and I can't say 100%, but I don't think I would. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
-I would go in. -I know. That's what you're telling me. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
That's what I'm saying. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
-So it was just an opportunity that presented itself. -Yeah. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
Opportunist. I had to grab it. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
You don't get to run riot like that every day. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
More than 2,500 businesses were attacked across England. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:05 | |
The total cost of the riots to the country has been estimated | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
as high as half a billion pounds. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
Most of those who have appeared before the courts | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
were charged with burglary and theft linked to looting. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
But a few of the rioters didn't just target shops. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
They also attacked passers-by. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:24 | |
Are they actually helping him up? | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
Oh, my God. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:47 | |
He just took something from his bag. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
Dickhead. | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
And amongst the rioters themselves, | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
some of the strong targeted the weak. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
I went there to see how they were getting things. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
And they were sliding underneath the shutters and that. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
So I think to myself, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:26 | |
"I'm not getting on my hands and knees to get no goods." | 0:30:26 | 0:30:31 | |
So I just thought, came up with a cunning plan, yeah? | 0:30:31 | 0:30:38 | |
And I stayed outside, yeah? | 0:30:38 | 0:30:43 | |
I waited for someone to come out with something that I wanted | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
and I just take it from them, the car was round the corner | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
and I just put it in the car. I come back and do the same thing. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:55 | |
Me and Becky, we had a touchscreen computer and we got robbed, | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
we had a laptop, that got robbed. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
Um... What else did we have? | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
We had something for an Xbox, that got robbed. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
People just came up to us and said, "Let me have that." | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
And cos they're big boys, you're scared to say no. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
If you say no, they'll just grab it out of you. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
"You're moist, give it, give it." | 0:31:19 | 0:31:20 | |
-So you were stealing from people who were stealing? -Yes. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
So if I were to go underneath the shutters in Currys | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
and I come out with a television and you're on the other side, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
why am I going to give you my television? | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
You have no choice, I'll just take it. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
Just put it in the car, round the corner, and come back. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
Were people not arguing with you? | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
How can they argue, bruv? It's free goods. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
Me and Becky would turn around and be like, "We took it, so it's ours, | 0:31:44 | 0:31:48 | |
"it's nothing to do with you, get your own things." | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
So me and Becky, yeah, we did get robbed. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
For some, the looting was a shameful distraction from what they felt | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
should have been the real target. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
Tottenham was for a cause, a well-known cause. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
The others was just mimic. Brixton, Hackney, they had no cause. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:18 | |
Because they were stealing. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
If they were out there pelting the police and not looting the shops, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
I would say, "Yes, this is a good war to have with the police." | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
But what I see and how I saw theirs happening was, they're stealing. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:32 | |
They was just naturally going out there to do theft. It wasn't called for. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
Violence towards the police would be a factor | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
in nearly all the riots across England. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
More than 300 officers would be injured tackling the disturbances. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
But why was such anger directed towards the police? | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
It felt like a battle cos there was police against us, | 0:32:56 | 0:33:01 | |
and for the first time, we felt like we could actually take them on. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
Every rock we could get hold of, we were throwing at them. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
Stones, chairs, coins, shoes... | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
First, it was the police I was aiming at. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
There wasn't even enough police there that day. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
The total tension was, the filth were portraying their strength. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
That's all they're doing, suited and booted, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
ready to fucking tear your arse off. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
-Right. -So we got ready to tear their arses off. This is war. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
-How do you get ready? -What do you mean? You're all tooled up. -OK. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:37 | |
Anything goes. You fight with your hands, your fists, anything goes. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:42 | |
-Is that what happened on the night? -Yeah. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
TV BROADCAST: The Met have admitted this morning | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
that they have been stretched "beyond belief" | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
in a way never experienced before. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
It was like a line of police there, there's bare people throwing stones | 0:33:57 | 0:34:02 | |
and rocks at them, innit. Some wood, To Let signs. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:07 | |
Obviously, I'm pinging all of my friends, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
trying to find out where everyone is. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
How many police? How many people? What were they doing? | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
What could you see? | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
Like, a line of policemen | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
in full armour with shields. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
-Were people shouting anything at the police? -Yeah. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
-What were they shouting? -Everything. -SHE LAUGHS | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
That doesn't tell me anything! | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
Bastards. Pigs. Na-na-na-na. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
-Just... -Abuse. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
Yeah. Basically. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
I remember seeing an old white man go and kick a police car. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
The burning police car. I said, "I feel like doing that as well." | 0:34:53 | 0:34:58 | |
And because... Suddenly, it brought back to me all the anger | 0:34:58 | 0:35:02 | |
that I feel about the police. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
I was going, "I'm entitled to do that as well. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
"I need to go and kick that car." | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
I said, "What happened to you? What's wrong with you? | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
"Why are you kicking the car?" | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
-He said, "Those fucking racist police." -Yeah, yeah! | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
I can't do his accent, but he was... he was Eastern European, I think, | 0:35:19 | 0:35:23 | |
and he was cursing away. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
"Fucking racist police." | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
-NEWS REPORTER: -'Despite an extra 2,500 police officers drafted in | 0:35:33 | 0:35:39 | |
'from nine forces around the country, | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
'the British Transport Police helping, | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
'the City of London police helping, | 0:35:44 | 0:35:45 | |
'it seems that the police were overwhelmed in many areas.' | 0:35:45 | 0:35:50 | |
Some expressed a hatred of the police shocking in its intensity. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:58 | |
There was one police officer that got fucked up. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
He got licked with a brick and it hit his face and he just dropped. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
We just ran towards them. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
They're trying to grab him, and we're there just stamping on his face. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
That felt good. Just the anger. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
Riot officers all lie down on the floor. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
They were mash up and I was laughing because they had broken foot, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:30 | |
they had cuts, they had bruises. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
They were breathing like cows, you know, asthma attack. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
I found that very funny, because they deserved it. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
It's a pity one of them wasn't gone as well, for Mark's life. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
I'm sorry, that's how I feel. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
I think it's more about having a go at the police, you know, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
for, like, years of abuse off the police. The police do abuse people. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
They do, like, they take liberties. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
Vans were going past and people were just throwing bricks at it, and you were like, it was funny, really, | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
because people were like, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
there's probably many people who only threw one brick, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
but they were chuffed to actually throw a brick at a police van | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
and, like, nothing happened, you know, | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
like. They actually had a little bit of a smile, | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
like they had achieved something once in their life, you know. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
A little bit like fight back at the system. It wasn't just a riot, it was a statement. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
If it was a statement about the police, what was it saying? | 0:37:20 | 0:37:25 | |
Many claim the way the police had behaved towards them in the past, | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
stop and search, verbal abuse, violence - | 0:37:29 | 0:37:33 | |
was a major cause of the riots. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
But hostility to the police could also be explained | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
by many of the rioters already being criminals. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
Three quarters of those charged with riot-related offences already had a criminal record. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:50 | |
Oi, oi, oi, stand back! Stand back! | 0:37:50 | 0:37:54 | |
Like, it was due to happen. It was due to happen. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:02 | |
Obviously, the police were taking the piss. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
They shot some guy in Norwood. They shot some guy in North. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
You know what I'm saying? They called it on them own selves. Leave man alone. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:13 | |
If a man's not doing nothing, just leave us, you know what I'm saying? | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
Stop harassing us for no reason. Let us sell weed, man. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
Actually, talking about it, I need a spliff. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
Harassing you for no reason. Why? | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
-You think the police arrest you for no reason? -They stop and search. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
They stop and search us for no reason. You hear what I'm saying? | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
Wasting their time doing nothing. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
That's a hell of a lot of weed there! | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
I thought you were going to get one little bit of weed out, not 100 bags. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
-Do you smoke? You obviously do. -No. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
But anger wasn't just directed towards the police. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
Why did rioters also choose to destroy and burn property? | 0:38:56 | 0:39:01 | |
-TV REPORTER: Are you OK? -INTERVIEWEE OVER PHONE: 'We're running because of the fire'. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:14 | |
Anna, get out of there, and we will speak to you again in a moment. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
I can see the most horrendous fires, to be honest with you. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
One that is burning out of control. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
If the fire brigade don't get here soon, | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
it's anyone's guess where this will spread. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
Yeah, we smashed up the restaurants outside. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
Smashed up that car showroom. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
And there were a couple of cars there that got...put on fire. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:43 | |
I think it was a Lotus. Lotus... One of them cars on fire. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:49 | |
We had matches. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
Everybody had matches, fuel, petrol bombs. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:58 | |
Ambulances were trying to get through | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
but we was not allowing ambulances to get through. I mean, fire brigades, yeah. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
-Why, what were you doing? -We were blocking it. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
We were licking bombs, putting shit in the way, everything, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
whatever we can think of in the middle, | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
just for them not to get through. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
Because we wanted to see everything on fire. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
To show them, what can you do now? There's nothing you could do. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:24 | |
'I actually feel really emotional about seeing the place | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
'where I've grown up torn apart like this, | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
'and these scum should just be sorted out as soon as possible.' | 0:40:31 | 0:40:35 | |
It's just trashing, trashing it for the fun of trashing it. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
Not for, like, financial gain or anything. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
Some financial gain, but really, they're not going to gain much | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
when they're breaking into, like, | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
Cash Converter and pound shops, are you, really? | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
'I've never seen anything like it in my life. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
'You can probably hear how emotional I feel. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
'It's absolutely devastating.' | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
I saw them doing the jewellery shop. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
I remember I saw the guy with the petrol can. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
I said to the guy, "Why are you burning the shop?" | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
They said, "DNA, Miss." So I said, "What do you mean?" | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
They said, "When we pull up the shutters, we get cut. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
"The police will arrest us quicker, | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
"so that is why we are setting these buildings on fire." | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
But it was their own community they were destroying. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
The pet shop, I wasn't having it because that is my pet shop | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
and I stood firm there. My doctor's, they weren't going in my doctor's, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
because my medical papers wasn't going on the street for people's business. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
Things that value to me, I was protecting it. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
'We were terrified, obviously. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:54 | |
'We could hear them saying they would start fires, and then they | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
'started to put bottles with rags in and chucking them at the buildings. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
'At that point, we just thought, we have to get out of here. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
'So we knocked on our neighbours' door and told them that we need to leave now. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
I didn't do anything. I didn't do anything major. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
Like, I done worse things in my life than rioting. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
I tell you that from now. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
I prevented Halfords from getting burned down, you know. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
-That's what I did. -How did you prevent Halfords from getting burned down? | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
Basically, some guy put petrol all over it and he asked me | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
for a lighter. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
If I said, "Yes, I have got a light here for you," | 0:42:38 | 0:42:39 | |
and given him a lighter, there would be no Halfords. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
-And you said no. -Yeah, I didn't give him the lighter. -Why? | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
-Because you didn't want the shop to burn? -No, bro. I didn't... | 0:42:47 | 0:42:52 | |
You think I wanted Foot Locker to get burnt down, brother? | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
Like, where am I going to go to Foot Locker, all the way in Croydon? | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
Or whatever? | 0:42:57 | 0:42:58 | |
'It seems to have calmed down slightly. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
'The police have moved on in five or so vehicles. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:12 | |
'That means that the people who were causing all the problems ran away | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
'from that area, and because of that, they have essentially dispersed.' | 0:43:15 | 0:43:19 | |
By the end of the rioting, five people were dead | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
and nearly 2,000 crimes of arson and criminal damage had been recorded. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:28 | |
It had taken four days to gain control in London. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
The riots outside the capital had lasted two nights. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:36 | |
What made everything stop? The shops ran out of stuff! | 0:43:38 | 0:43:43 | |
Currys went instantly. All the phone shops went instantly. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:49 | |
After all the gadgets, all the electrical stuff went, like. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:53 | |
But me and Becky, we hid stuff in a skip. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:59 | |
And we went back down there in a cab | 0:43:59 | 0:44:01 | |
and we saw there were still people looting the hairdressers. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
I was like, "Oh, my God, what are you doing? | 0:44:04 | 0:44:06 | |
"It's like one o'clock in the morning." It's mad. It's mad. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:10 | |
Often loaded down with stolen goods, the rioters made their way home. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:17 | |
We were busting red lights and that. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:24 | |
Roads were derelict, dead. Tumbleweed. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
When you're driving like this in the car, what are you talking about? | 0:44:27 | 0:44:31 | |
Well, I was singing, playing music. I was singing, smoking. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:35 | |
-So a happy mood in the car? -Yeah. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:39 | |
We hadn't killed anyone, know what I'm saying? | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
I was happy. I was overjoyed. I was so happy, I was like, yeah. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:52 | |
It just felt so good, I don't know. I felt so good, I was like, yes. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:57 | |
There was loads of undercover police and like, | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
can't really just walk out with two big bags full of stolen goods. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:05 | |
So we had to run all the way from Croydon all the way back here. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:09 | |
It's just scary, because you see helicopters flying about. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:13 | |
Had to hide in bushes and everything. It was crazy. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:18 | |
And you're just scared, because everyone's hooded up | 0:45:18 | 0:45:21 | |
and you're walking through these dark streets, | 0:45:21 | 0:45:23 | |
and because they're all hooded up and everything | 0:45:23 | 0:45:25 | |
and you're thinking, "Oh, my God, they could drag me into a bush | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
"and rape me and do whatever they want, like." | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
-I got two plasmas. -OK. -So I was satisfied. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:36 | |
I shot it the next day for like, shot it for like £300 each. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:41 | |
I was happy with that steal. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:44 | |
To be honest, at that time, | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
I didn't think no-one was going to get caught. | 0:45:46 | 0:45:48 | |
I didn't think they were going to wake up in the morning and start nicking these man or these man. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:52 | |
I just thought "Nothing's going to happen." | 0:45:52 | 0:45:55 | |
Know what I'm saying? I just thought "It's in our control now." | 0:45:55 | 0:46:00 | |
But obviously, it flipped. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:02 | |
The riots had ended, but the rioters were not to be left alone. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:09 | |
The Government announced its intention to leave no stone unturned | 0:46:09 | 0:46:13 | |
in its effort to find those who had taken part. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
A massive police investigation cranked into action. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
'Couple weeks later, I woke up in the morning, about half seven. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:36 | |
'I couldn't get back to sleep, | 0:46:36 | 0:46:38 | |
'so I rolled a cannabis joint to try and get back to sleep. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:43 | |
'While I was smoking it, police knocked on my door.' | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
Boom, boom, boom, nuh, nuh, nuh. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
So then, as I opened the door, I said, "Why, what's this about?" | 0:46:49 | 0:46:54 | |
And they said, "Talk to you once we get in." | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
-Were you there on your own? -Yeah. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
So I just opened the door, let them in, | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
and they said that, "I'm arresting you on suspicion of burglary | 0:47:03 | 0:47:07 | |
"of £60,000 worth of phones." | 0:47:07 | 0:47:11 | |
I was like, "60 grand?!" | 0:47:11 | 0:47:12 | |
I said, "What, do you reckon I would be here if I had that? | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
"Do you reckon that?" I said, "Come on now, man," I said, | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
"I would have moved out of this country by now." | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
A couple of weeks later, Becky came to my house and was like, | 0:47:26 | 0:47:32 | |
and said to me, "Oh, I was, I was on... | 0:47:32 | 0:47:35 | |
"There was a picture of me in Croydon." | 0:47:35 | 0:47:39 | |
And I was like, "Oh, my God, if you're there, I must be there, cos I was with you." | 0:47:39 | 0:47:42 | |
So she was like, "Check out this website." | 0:47:42 | 0:47:44 | |
And I was like, "Oh, my God, I'm on it". Like, I'm on it. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:48 | |
It was a photograph of me outside, just, like, ten minutes away, | 0:47:48 | 0:47:54 | |
all from...away from the shops, but I had, like, five, | 0:47:54 | 0:47:57 | |
six pairs of shoes in my hand. | 0:47:57 | 0:47:59 | |
And that was blatantly obviously, they were stolen. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:03 | |
And then someone asked me for a pair and I gave them a pair, | 0:48:03 | 0:48:07 | |
and the street cameras caught my face. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:10 | |
And that's how I got caught. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:12 | |
They got nothing on me. I was all covered up. They can't do shit. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:17 | |
I covered my hands, my face, glasses on. Everything. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:21 | |
And the clothes I was wearing that day, | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
I was just throwing them in the bin and burning them. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:27 | |
Apparently, there was rewards going round, like money. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:33 | |
That's what I heard. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:34 | |
And I thought, if teacher could see me or anyone, | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
then basically that would be a worser thing for me. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:41 | |
And then... So I told my mum. I was like, "Mum, are you going to be mad?" | 0:48:41 | 0:48:45 | |
And I think my mum was going to... | 0:48:45 | 0:48:46 | |
I think my mum was going to be like, "What is she going to tell me? | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
"She's pregnant or something." | 0:48:49 | 0:48:51 | |
I was like, "Mum, don't be mad, but I went looting." | 0:48:51 | 0:48:54 | |
And she was like, "What?!" | 0:48:54 | 0:48:56 | |
She went mad, but after a while, she was like, "Why did you do it?" | 0:48:56 | 0:49:01 | |
-My mum doesn't even know I was in the riots. -Your mum doesn't? | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
What does she think I'm talking to you about? What does she think I'm talking to you about? | 0:49:07 | 0:49:11 | |
-I told her what you was talking to me about. -The riots? -Yeah. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
But she doesn't know that you were a participant? | 0:49:14 | 0:49:17 | |
-No, I just told her that I was. -Just now. -Yeah. -Oh, God! | 0:49:17 | 0:49:20 | |
-Your timing's great, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:22 | |
Over 5,000 would be arrested, | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
resulting in more than 1,900 convictions, | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
and over 1,200 going to jail so far. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:34 | |
Rioting was seen as an aggravating factor. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
Sentences were longer and more people were sent to prison | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
than would normally be expected for the same charges under different circumstances. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:45 | |
My friends just decide to go in police station | 0:49:45 | 0:49:49 | |
and told what we'd just done. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:51 | |
And we went to the Crown Court and they decide us, | 0:49:51 | 0:49:58 | |
our sentence will be 12 month. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
Judge says us that if it will be normal, yeah, | 0:50:01 | 0:50:06 | |
but it will be like, we won't be imprisoned, | 0:50:06 | 0:50:11 | |
and maybe it will be like community service, something like this. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:19 | |
So I think it is very harsh. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:20 | |
I think the only time I cried in jail was when I first come | 0:50:22 | 0:50:26 | |
and it was my dad's birthday, and my dad's dead, innit? | 0:50:26 | 0:50:30 | |
The best thing to do is not think about it, just have a laugh | 0:50:30 | 0:50:33 | |
and try and have a joke with, like, the person next door in your cell. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:37 | |
I've had people in my school come up to me and like, "Oh, my God, | 0:50:37 | 0:50:41 | |
"your picture's on..." My picture's in the paper, cos most of them | 0:50:41 | 0:50:45 | |
found out I handed myself in or they found out I went looting. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:49 | |
And they're all showing off, like, "Oh, look at my shoes, | 0:50:49 | 0:50:53 | |
"look at my bag, look at my bag, look at the clothes that I got." | 0:50:53 | 0:50:57 | |
And I just thought, like, "You went that low? | 0:50:57 | 0:50:59 | |
"Are you that poor that you can't buy your clothes? | 0:50:59 | 0:51:03 | |
"Like, you went that low?" | 0:51:03 | 0:51:04 | |
As the courts coped with the unprecedented demand on their time, | 0:51:08 | 0:51:11 | |
an examination of the riots began. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
What both the authorities | 0:51:16 | 0:51:17 | |
and the public wanted to know was, why had so many people | 0:51:17 | 0:51:21 | |
in so many different areas shown such violence and caused so much damage? | 0:51:21 | 0:51:26 | |
'A report panel received a range of answers, | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
'from fancying a new pair of trainers | 0:51:34 | 0:51:35 | |
'to a desire to attack society.' | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
'What in these few days in the summer caused the trouble that spread so fast? | 0:51:40 | 0:51:45 | |
'A series of chance events, opportunism, gangs, Facebook?' | 0:51:45 | 0:51:49 | |
Police drive past this estate, you get me? | 0:51:50 | 0:51:52 | |
Look at me, you get me, like? | 0:51:52 | 0:51:53 | |
We're rats in a lab, you understand? | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
You get me, like? Come look on us, you get me, like? | 0:51:55 | 0:51:58 | |
We're animals in a zoo and all that, you understand? | 0:51:58 | 0:52:00 | |
We're normal people just trying to make a life for ourselves | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
-when there's no opportunities out there. -Opportunities like...? | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
No job opportunities, no apprenticeships for the youth now. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:10 | |
Youth get frustrated. That's why the riots happen, innit? | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
You're not only seeing black people rioting. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
You're seeing all different ethnicities rioting, | 0:52:15 | 0:52:17 | |
all going through the same pain. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:19 | |
The next day, you're seeing on the news, JDs, | 0:52:19 | 0:52:21 | |
you're seeing middle-class people running in the shop, | 0:52:21 | 0:52:23 | |
all going for it, not just black people. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:25 | |
Everyone is going for it right now, you understand? And that's just what it is. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:29 | |
Some did it for the money. They did it...easy money. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
A lot of people talking about the Government. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:37 | |
Nothing to do with no government. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:39 | |
Nobody is thinking about the Government. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:40 | |
When I got the phone call, nobody was thinking about the Government. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:44 | |
No college fees or no bullshit. That's an excuse. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:48 | |
Why are you going to raise tuition fees for? | 0:52:48 | 0:52:50 | |
Put more people on the streets? That's not right. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
How many protests have we had, this country had, | 0:52:53 | 0:52:56 | |
and nothing's gone our way? | 0:52:56 | 0:52:57 | |
And then when we turn to violence... | 0:52:57 | 0:52:59 | |
What else are you meant to turn to? | 0:52:59 | 0:53:01 | |
Are we meant to just chill there and speak quietly and say yeah? | 0:53:01 | 0:53:04 | |
So you know what? Fuck this. We'll do it our way. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:07 | |
The exact circumstances surrounding the shooting of Mark Duggan | 0:53:07 | 0:53:12 | |
are still being investigated | 0:53:12 | 0:53:13 | |
by the Independent Police Complaints Commission. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:15 | |
His death may have sparked the riots in Tottenham, | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
but it didn't explain the scale of what happened afterwards. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
What I'm really upset about is that they didn't do it right | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
and there's greedy kids out there who was doing it for pleasure, | 0:53:27 | 0:53:32 | |
and they should have left the shops and concentrate on fighting the police. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
They was fighting the police for a rightful cause. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
The shops did not trouble them. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:39 | |
That's the shops their mums and their gran have to go to. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:41 | |
The post office now - they've got grandparents - | 0:53:41 | 0:53:43 | |
there's no post office for the elderly. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
Should have got it right, man. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:50 | |
I just regret it all. I just feel sorry for all the shops in Croydon. | 0:53:55 | 0:54:01 | |
I just feel like, when I go past and I see Currys all boarded up, | 0:54:01 | 0:54:05 | |
I was like, "I was there on that night." | 0:54:05 | 0:54:08 | |
To think that I went that low to go steal in these shops, | 0:54:08 | 0:54:16 | |
when they're, like... | 0:54:16 | 0:54:18 | |
basically, that's their business. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:22 | |
That's how they're providing for their families, | 0:54:22 | 0:54:24 | |
and we've basically ruined that and they've got to start from scratch. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:28 | |
So that's made me think in life like... | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
It just made me think twice about what I'm actually going to do, | 0:54:30 | 0:54:37 | |
before I actually do it. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:39 | |
I don't know why people... My God. I don't know why people do this. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:51 | |
'I'm ashamed of myself for being involved, innit?' | 0:54:54 | 0:54:58 | |
I just went there to be a slut. I admit it, yeah? | 0:54:58 | 0:55:02 | |
I know it was wrong and that's why I'm here, yeah? | 0:55:02 | 0:55:04 | |
Because I wanted to be a slut. It's not good, is it? | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
At least I can tell my kids when I'm older, | 0:55:07 | 0:55:10 | |
like, and my grandkids, like, | 0:55:10 | 0:55:12 | |
I've been involved in a riot before. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:15 | |
Nice little story for them, isn't it? | 0:55:15 | 0:55:18 | |
You know, like World War II and that with my great-grandads and stuff, | 0:55:18 | 0:55:22 | |
I hear about and think, "Oh, I heard about them riots in 2011." | 0:55:22 | 0:55:26 | |
How do you feel about your involvement in the riots? | 0:55:28 | 0:55:34 | |
-I don't feel about it. -OK, and... | 0:55:34 | 0:55:36 | |
Because if you felt about it, you'd think twice, wouldn't you? | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
You don't think twice when you go and kill an enemy. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:41 | |
You think about it, it'd stop you, wouldn't it? | 0:55:41 | 0:55:45 | |
What did friends and family think about? | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
-I don't talk to them about my issues. -OK, cool. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:52 | |
My mother's dead, my father's dead, my wife died six years ago. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
First my mother died, then my father died seven months later, | 0:55:55 | 0:55:59 | |
then my wife died nine months later, | 0:55:59 | 0:56:00 | |
then my dog died a fucking year later. | 0:56:00 | 0:56:02 | |
I don't give a fuck. I've got nothing to lose. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:05 | |
'This isn't about politics, this isn't about poverty. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:10 | |
'It's just sheer evil, it's sheer nastiness. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:12 | |
'There's no conscience about it, either.' | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
My parents can't control me. I live with them, but they can't control me. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:21 | |
I control myself. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:23 | |
I do not regret it. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:25 | |
If it was to happen again, I would happily join it. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:29 | |
Anything against the police, I would happily join. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:32 | |
Everybody feels happy that it happened. Everyone. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:37 | |
There was no official government enquiry after the riots, | 0:56:38 | 0:56:42 | |
but there were reports by other bodies. | 0:56:42 | 0:56:44 | |
Like the people in this film, | 0:56:45 | 0:56:47 | |
the reports pointed to a range of possible reasons. | 0:56:47 | 0:56:51 | |
Opportunism, social deprivation, discontent with the police, | 0:56:51 | 0:56:55 | |
unemployment and a lack of morality, amongst others. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:59 | |
But none could pinpoint a single overwhelming cause | 0:56:59 | 0:57:02 | |
for what happened over those five days in August. | 0:57:02 | 0:57:06 | |
You know, sitting down here talking about this | 0:57:09 | 0:57:12 | |
is just frustrating as well - | 0:57:12 | 0:57:13 | |
you're talking about it, people are interviewing you, but nothing ain't going to change. | 0:57:13 | 0:57:17 | |
Nothing will change, except for a couple of years down the line, | 0:57:17 | 0:57:20 | |
the next man's going to be dead and we're going to be sitting down here talking about the same thing again. | 0:57:20 | 0:57:24 | |
You get me? There are different people I know that died in the hood, | 0:57:24 | 0:57:27 | |
and look at their case and what's come out of it. Nothing. | 0:57:27 | 0:57:30 | |
Even though I hope some good comes out of it. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:32 | |
I hope good comes out of it. | 0:57:32 | 0:57:34 | |
-Hope is a four-letter word, but it is a big thing. -Trust. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:41 | |
Go on. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:43 | |
-I'm done. -Doing good, man. -I helped you out, man. | 0:57:43 | 0:57:47 | |
No, man, I gave it to you. I'm going home, you know. | 0:57:47 | 0:57:51 | |
I gave you some good lingo there, darling. | 0:57:52 | 0:57:55 | |
Next in this series, a very different story. | 0:58:06 | 0:58:08 | |
The riots through the eyes of the police. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:11 | |
The van was getting constantly pelted. | 0:58:13 | 0:58:15 | |
My colleague screamed, "I'm being attacked." | 0:58:15 | 0:58:18 | |
This machete had just appeared through this hole in the window | 0:58:18 | 0:58:21 | |
and it started hacking at his hand. | 0:58:21 | 0:58:23 | |
# Paint me a picture that I can see | 0:58:25 | 0:58:28 | |
# Give me a touch that I can feel | 0:58:30 | 0:58:33 | |
# Turn me around so I can be | 0:58:34 | 0:58:38 | |
# Everything I was meant to be... # | 0:58:39 | 0:58:43 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:58:47 | 0:58:50 |