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THEY LAUGH

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LAUGHTER

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ALL: Yeah!

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WHISTLE BLOWS

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CHEERING

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Well done, men!

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-LINESMAN:

-Stay in the box. Thank you.

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I'm going to learn sign language one day.

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HE CHEERS

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FINAL WHISTLE BLOWS

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Well done, well done. Good game.

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THEY CHEER

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CAT MEOWS

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You've been a patient here for a long time, actually, haven't you?

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-Since you were quite small.

-Yeah.

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So we know quite a bit about you.

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Can I just check - do you think your hearing has changed at all

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throughout your life, or has it pretty much stayed the same?

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OK. Is that what's prompted you to come for the cochlear implant,

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or is it something that you've been thinking about?

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-They're not mutually exclusive, are they?

-Exactly.

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You could be part of both, really, yeah.

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What we'll do first of all is just do the speech tests

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-and get those done.

-OK.

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And that can help to inform us

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about what the likely benefits of the implant would be.

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We'll just go into the other room.

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-To begin with, a man is going to come on the screen.

-OK.

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He's going to say a sentence and I want you to try and tell me

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what you think he said.

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Don't worry about passing or failing this test.

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It's just a measurement of what you're doing now.

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OK.

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-MAN:

-Can you see the flock of sheep running across the field?

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OK.

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Can you see the flock of sheep running across the field?

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Do you think the ice on the roads will melt by this evening?

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What was the last word that you said then?

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"Than the TV," did you say?

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She has a cold.

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OK, that's fine, thank you.

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The next part of the test we're going to do

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is to try it when you can't see the face.

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Which is probably going to be really difficult.

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It might be impossible, but we'll try it and see.

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'The postman shut the gate.'

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'They're looking at the clock.'

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'The bag bumps on the ground.'

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'The rain came down.'

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'The ice cream was pink.'

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Yeah, OK. We'll just go back into the other room,

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where we were before.

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So those tests are quite important, cos they can help us to think about,

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if you had a cochlear implant, how much better that would be.

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It has the potential to help you, but only a little bit.

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And the reason for that is because, really,

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the nerves of hearing haven't been stimulated normally

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all of your life,

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-particularly those high frequencies where you've never heard them.

-Yep.

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So they're going to be a struggle for you and they are the things

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that people who have been deaf all their lives often tell us about.

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They're the things that they really find hard.

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I think it's something that you really need to think quite carefully

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and quite hard about

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to decide... OK, it's going to give you a little bit of help,

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but then you've got to have an operation.

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You've got to have surgery with the risks that go with that.

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You're going to spend a year, or even potentially longer than that,

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trying to get the maximum benefit from the implant.

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And I don't want you to make a decision now,

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because we need to think a bit more carefully, as well,

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about whether we think the implant is the right thing for you.

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It's a two-way decision-making process, really.

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No, I do understand.

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I've got tissues in here for you.

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I think, out there in the real world, it's really tough

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to be able to hear in the circumstances you're describing.

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When you're out with friends, when you're out in group situations,

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when you're out and lots of people are all talking at the same time,

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those situations are really tough when you can't hear 100%.

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I suppose what I'm trying to get over to you in all of this

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is that, actually, if you have a cochlear implant,

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that's not going to transform those situations for you either.

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It might not suddenly transform things for you.

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HUSSEIN CHUCKLES

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LAUGHTER FROM BACK SEAT

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Hussein, Hussein.

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Stupid, man!

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You don't understand...

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Hello, again.

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-OK, heads for you.

-OK.

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Tails for you, OK?

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Heads. Stay or change?

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Stay? OK. You've got the ball.

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-Good luck.

-Good luck.

-Best of luck.

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-Best of luck.

-Good luck.

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THEY SHOUT:

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WHISTLE BLOWS

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PLAYER ROARS

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FINAL WHISTLE BLOWS

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Well played, man.

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Hi!

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Who's Tina?

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-That's Tina.

-Yep!

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Fiona.

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Come, come.

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Good.

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So about 40% of our women deliver in the pool.

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About 55% use the pool for labour.

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Because sometimes...

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-TINA VIA INTERPRETER:

-So in labour, but then they're born maybe outside.

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Yes, that's 55... It depends on the mother, it depends on the baby,

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if the midwife is happy, if you're safe, then you're allowed to stay.

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If there's any issues and you come out,

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I might at the end say I want to get out, who knows?

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My aim, yes, is to give birth in the pool, but we will see.

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OK, so if you're having difficulty pushing...

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..then we would recommend that you go on this marvellous love seat.

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-OK!

-I'll show you so that you know now...

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..and then in labour, you can just point and go if...

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Because even in pain, you might find even signing hard.

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Because a lot of women that speak English don't talk...

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..because they're focused on the birth.

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So you can just go...

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But their ears are working,

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so they can hear what the midwife is saying, whereas with me,

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I need to look at someone,

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so for me to lip-read during labour is impossible.

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But I can look and watch sign language

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as if someone could hear English.

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But for me, I wouldn't be able to lip-read throughout.

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So come.

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So this...

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Very good.

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So, you, this way.

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It's like a love swing, eh?

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When the contractions come to push...

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..she holds on to this...

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..and... MIDWIFE MIMICS GROAN

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-Do most women like using this?

-Love it.

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It's very comfortable.

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In between the contractions, she might want to rest,

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so that's why we...

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Then she can rest back and he, "Love, love, love".

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Very good.

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TINA LAUGHS That's perfect.

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Right now, it's a little bit embarrassing to do it,

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but I guess when you're on the spot and you're in pain,

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you don't really care what you look like,

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you'll just get on and do whatever.

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Lots of women, I think, like this,

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because the husband just sees the baby, rather than the vagina.

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I don't think he'll... I'm really not bothered.

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-MARIOS VIA INTERPRETER:

-I want to see if it's a boy or a girl -

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-I'll be pushing her out the way.

-But then you'll be here.

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Yeah, OK.

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Oh, yes. I kept the two...

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And I'm like, "You're glasses?"

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And then I'm like, "OK, well, the sweets we'll bring..."

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Hooray!

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Yeah!

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Yes!

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No, no, no.

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No, ten.

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Two o'clock, yes.

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Yes.

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KIDS LAUGH

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You see, this is another reason why he was a boy.

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Abigail Gorman.

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That's me.

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-Probably best if you come and have a seat over there.

-Lovely, thank you.

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Right, you've seen my colleague Professor Saeed already

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and you've had some tests and investigations done.

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We've had a chat about it

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and we think that you would get some benefit from the cochlear implant.

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We are happy to offer you a cochlear implant, if that's what you want.

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And it sounds as though that is what you want. OK?

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I know it's not going to make me become hearing...

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..but I know things will improve a little

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and that improvement is more than I would have without.

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If it only improves 5%,

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then that 5% is more than I would have had without.

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So I think for Professor Saeed,

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he may have a list available at the end of this month,

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if you're interested.

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Yes. Um...OK.

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-You mean this month?

-Yes, 31st March, I think we're looking at.

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-Oh, when do I need to let you know?

-You can think about it, don't worry.

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-Good.

-Good.

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So come with me.

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Sorry?

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Very soft. It would make a lovely jumper, yeah.

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A lovely jumper.

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Or scarf.

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-Hello.

-Hi, is it Tina Costi?

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TINA VIA INTERPRETER: Yes, that's correct.

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I'm Dr Rawra, I'm the registrar.

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The midwife was telling me that you were saying

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you couldn't feel Baby move, is that right?

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Yeah, recently, the movements have become much less.

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It's gradually become less every week.

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And you came in ten days ago with reduced movements, as well?

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-Yes.

-So this is now the second time?

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We can offer you induction of labour,

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where we start the labour process.

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You mentioned you're already getting Braxton Hicks.

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-Is that the pessary?

-That's right, yes.

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I wanted to ask you, does that mean

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I can't do the birthing pool if it's induced?

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Yes, if you want to have the birthing pool,

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then it has to be low-risk.

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-So that means you can't induce?

-No.

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If we decide to induce,

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then we would recommend you're on labour ward.

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-MARIOS VIA INTERPRETER:

-Could I just have a brief talk with my wife?

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Yeah, of course.

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I don't know whether I should interpret this or not.

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You've been worrying for ten days about less movements and everything

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and I do understand that you want to have the pool and everything,

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I know you want to do it naturally and everything,

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but if it's putting the baby at any risk...

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It's not an injection or anything to induce you. That's right?

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-To induce, it's not like an injection, is it?

-No, no.

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It's a hormone pessary which goes inside the vagina

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and it stay there for 24 hours

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to soften the neck of the womb to start labour.

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But because we are introducing hormone, we have to monitor the baby

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to make sure that Baby's coping with the process

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and therefore the birthing pool is not appropriate.

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Are you feeling Baby move now?

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Then I would recommend today.

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Yeah.

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I have something just here, like a little foot.

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I can feel a little foot or heel here, but that's it. That's it.

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Then I would recommend today.

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-OK. OK, fine.

-Are you sure?

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Yep. So no birth centre, sorry.

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It has to be labour ward.

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-All right? OK.

-Thank you.

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You're welcome.

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LOW CONVERSATION

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OK, so we've got a little boy who was born yesterday, the 24th.

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-TINA VIA INTERPRETER:

-Yes.

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And other than yourselves, is there hearing loss in the family as well,

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permanent childhood hearing loss?

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You've got a show of hands! OK.

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-MARIOS VIA INTERPRETER:

-My mother's side is hearing

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and father's side is deaf.

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With Tina - my mum's deaf...

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..but other deaf in the family, no. It's just myself and my mum.

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I don't think with my family it's linked to genetics.

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I don't know, but I've been told

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it's not a genetic thing with our family.

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-So it'll be interesting to see what happens now with the baby.

-OK.

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I'm happy to tell you Baby has clear responses on both ears.

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OK?

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So hearing is all OK and it's all done and finished for you,

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the hearing screening.

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Done?

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Let's go.

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It was the first part, just the painkiller first.

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The first part.

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There's two parts.

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You're feeling light-headed, yeah?

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OK, we'll see you in a couple of hours.

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-Yes.

-Sorry.

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See you in a couple of hours.

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Feeling sick, yes? OK, I will give her...

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How are you feeling?

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Hungry? Good.

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Your supper is here.

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Is it sore?

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The operation went very well,

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so that's the easy bit.

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Now the real hard work starts.

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OK? Good. See you soon.

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-ABIGAIL:

-Thank you very much.

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Good? Good to go.

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I'm going to switch all of it on, OK?

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I want you to know that, initially, it might just sound like noise, OK?

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That's very normal, yeah?

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It's very normal that it won't make sense,

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that it will just be beeps or ringing, OK?

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It won't be like anything you've ever heard before,

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so there's nothing to expect.

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I don't want you to expect to understand me.

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Today is just about getting comfortable

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with the noises that you hear, OK? Ready?

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OK.

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Switching on.

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OK.

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There we go, Abi.

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Right. I'm just going to carry on talking

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while you listen to the sound of my voice.

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I want you to tell me, is it comfortable, or is it too loud?

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SHE MIMICS DISTORTED WARBLE

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Yeah? That's good, that's perfect.

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So...if you listen to that noise,

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where is that on the scale?

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Where do you think that is, is that comfortable?

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Is that comfortable? Is that very uncomfortable?

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SHE GUFFAWS Where is that?

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That's good, OK.

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I'm going to carry on talking while you listen to the noise, OK?

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Remember, you won't make sense of my voice yet,

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but the fact that you can hear these noises

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is a very good sign.

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You have a nice range...

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a nice access to a very wide range of sounds

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and your brain has to just interpret that

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and get used to that, OK?

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So what does it sound like?

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OK.

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It's almost like there's a pattern, isn't there?

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Every time I speak,

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there's a pattern of the sound that you're hearing,

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so the brain is starting to hear when I talk,

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it's starting to hear when you talk,

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and eventually it will interpret what we are saying.

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How do you feel?

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OK, that's good, that's good.

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So the brain is already adapting

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only a couple of minutes into the session

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and it's not as harsh as it was in the beginning, so that's good.

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OK. Right, just so you know,

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you've got manuals in here,

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but you've also got a DVD player with subtitles,

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so it explains everything about the process.

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So if you forgot everything that I said today,

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don't worry - you've got it all in here.

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OK. All yours.

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Happy listening.

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You're welcome.

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All done.

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Right.

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Um, see how you go,

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but just listen and just experience the world out there.

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Don't sweat too much.

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Hello, are you all right?

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WHISTLE BLOWS

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Come on, Uncle Marios!

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THEY CLAP

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WHISTLE BLOWS

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CROWD CHEERS

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CROWD APPLAUDS

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Hello!

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TINA CHUCKLES

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THEY LAUGH

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