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This is the Dragons' Den.

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Over the last six years

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nearly 700 entrepreneurs have walked up the stairs looking for investment.

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Before them, five of Britain's most successful business brains,

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collectively worth a reported £1 billion.

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Convincing them to part with their cash isn't easy but tonight

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they have agreed to share their tips for success.

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-From the initial idea to the pitch.

-Are you ready for the alternative?

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From the business plan...

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Probably the tidiest patent I've ever seen.

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-..to in the negotiation.

-5% each, 10% in total.

-Oh!

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These are the business secrets that work outside the Den and within, revealed by the Dragons themselves

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and the brave entrepreneurs who have dared to stand before them.

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Over the last three weeks the Dragons have shared their wisdom on pitching...

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I've completely lost it.

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-..negotiation...

-40%.

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-30%.

-..and money-making ideas...

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I invented the toaster bag in 1999.

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Tonight on How To Win In The Den, we unlock the Dragons' secrets to a successful business plan.

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It absolutely staggers me when people come into the Den

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with a muddled business plan or actually sometimes without a plan.

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Now whether they have lost it coming up the stairs I do not know.

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Whether it's your household budget or family holiday, planning is a vital part of everyday life.

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And when it comes to running a successful business, it's no different.

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One of the most important predictors of whether a business will succeed

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is whether there's a plan.

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-What is your business plan?

-I want to make this into something that will really sell.

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I want the £7 million turnover within five years.

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I've learned a lot about business planning is to have one.

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I didn't have one at the start!

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So you're probably admit to me that your business skills

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-probably would need a bit of help.

-I would say that, yeah.

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It's so important to know who your market is, who your competition is.

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I know about stock, ordering, I studied chartered accountancy.

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It's so important to get that business plan spot on.

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Now the Dragons are catching up with their investments.

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One thing I want you to know from me is I would not want to be

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involved as a minority investor with all your family involved.

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And revisiting some of the entrepreneurs whose business plans failed to impress.

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-You've gone into the coffin business?

-With a twist.

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So if you're an entrepreneur in the making, pay attention.

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-Investors expect your figures to be right.

-Timing is everything.

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Set realistic goals.

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You really do need to be sensible.

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It's you that makes the plan come together.

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These are the lessons you need to run a successful business.

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Every entrepreneur who comes looking for a Dragon's investment must come prepared for battle.

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Going into the Den without a business plan is like getting into your car without insurance.

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But without the goods to back it up, a business plan is not worth the paper it's written on.

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I cannot imagine that you're ever going to see any part of your £200,000 recouped.

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So the Dragons' first lesson is set realistic targets.

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One of the important things for a plan to do

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is to just set out projections of where the business is going to go.

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What's your forecast going forward over the next three years?

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Next year it's projected at a combined turnover of 3.4 million with a £240,000 net profit.

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Now the key thing is that there must be some evidence, some reason

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for thinking what you're thinking about how much you can sell.

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Have you got anything that supports that 3.4 million growth?

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We've got an order, the contract value is between £2 million and £20 million a year.

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It's remarkable how many people will make a plan that comes really from nowhere at all.

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What do you reckon you're going to do this year?

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Erm...

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-A few million?

-Are you making it up as we go along?

-No, it could be 5 million.

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And when it comes to the Den, it's amazing how many people have set absolutely no targets at all.

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I am astonished about how many people actually turn up in the Den without a plan.

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The business you're asking us to invest in, though,

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-doesn't exist at the moment?

-That's right.

-So to set up a new website that doesn't exist yet,

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has no customers, no revenue, no barriers to entry, nothing that you'd call a business...

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-That's right.

-And you want me to invest in that?

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Yes.

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They actually can't tell me what they're going to do with the money,

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never mind how they're going to make money.

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So how do I make my £100,000 back?

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It's a great question and I'm struggling to answer it.

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It isn't just about the numbers, it's how to get there.

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-How can you generate £150,000?

-Five advisers answering five calls an hour.

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So you need 2,000 calls a week? How much money are you going to make, what are you going to turn over?

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If they're all customers like you, maybe not as much as I thought!

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Two entrepreneurs whose solid business plan caught the interest of all five Dragons back in 2010

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were Richard Blakesley and Chris Barnardo.

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Although it didn't harm that their product was pretty impressive as well.

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Hi, we're the wand company and we're here today to ask for

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£200,000 investment for a 10% stake in our company.

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Arthur C Clarke is famous for having said,

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"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

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The magic market, fantasy market is huge.

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We thought that Richard and I would get together and make some really magical products.

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Our first one is a real magic wand.

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I thought the magic wand guys

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were possibly the best I've ever seen on Dragons' Den.

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With this wand I can, for example...

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MUSIC PLAYS

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..play some music. I can rotate it to turn the volume up.

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I can give it a flick to change tracks. Stop the music.

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In fact, you can control almost anything in your house.

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Fantastic.

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Everyone wants to zap someone, you know?

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I can turn on the TV.

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Dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab...

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Rewind, pause.

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# Da-da, la-da, da-da, la-da, da-da-da... #

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Or even things like lighting.

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Fair play, that was a really good demo.

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We started the company last year and by Christmas

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we'd sold over 10,000 units but we feel that with your help, investment and expertise we could take

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The Wand Company to a revenue of about £18 million within three years.

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A good product rarely gains investment without a realistic business plan.

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And Theo Paphitis was keen to hear the duo's sales targets and how they were going to achieve them.

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How many do you really believe you can sell?

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Have you got the financial year?

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-We are projecting conservatively £1.2 million.

-For?

-This year.

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How much net profit are you going to make out of 1.2 million?

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-50%, 0.6 million.

-£600,000.

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What makes you think that you require my £200,000?

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We don't need the cash to make this worst-case forecast we're talking about

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but we're saying with your investment we can do say £3 million.

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-The worst case is 1.2 million?

-Yeah.

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We're just concluding a deal with Target in the US

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and one of our distributors wants to put the product into SkyMall.

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-They are putting it into SkyMall.

-Oh they are, OK.

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SkyMall, for example, is a magazine in the back of the seat

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of every internal US flight, pretty much 600 million people a year sit in front of that.

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With ambitious targets but more importantly

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a strategy of how to meet them, Duncan Bannatyne was sold on both the duo and their business plan.

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I'm going to make you an offer for all the money, the £200,000, but I want not 10%

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but 30% of the company.

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If you make £600,000 profit I'll give you 10% of the equity back.

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-Is that a deal?

-Can we ask of anyone else is interested?

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You can if you want to but you'll be wasting your time.

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Thank you.

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I'd like to offer you the full amount of money for 25% of the equity.

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With the confidence that comes from having two offers already on the table,

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the duo even set their own targets when it came to the negotiation.

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What offer would you like from me that would make you happy?

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20%, going down to say 10 if we make 1.2 net profit.

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-Does that work for you?

-That would work.

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I don't think we were

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playing them off against each other, we just wanted to understand what

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the range of deals available to us were going to be.

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It's a consumer retail product but I don't know everything about all of your businesses but my impression is

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that Theo and Peter have got the strongest connections in that market.

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You'd be wrong to assess that,

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that the other Dragons have more connections than me.

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Can either of you move at all on your offers then?

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I could actually feel they would have been happy to walk away

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rather than take a deal that wasn't working for them.

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So it was either make a better offer or lose the investment.

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OK, well, I'll improve mine

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and I'll drop to 10% if you make 1.2 million.

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OK.

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Deborah Meaden and former Dragon James Caan were also won over by the duo's strategy

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and made attractive offers and after a lengthy negotiation the entrepreneurs made their choice.

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Duncan, we'd like to accept your offer.

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Thank you.

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Anyone coming on Dragons' Den should watch their pitch, watch what they did before they come on Dragons' Den.

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I have to say they played that masterfully.

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It's a year since Chris and Richard appeared in the Den and business is booming.

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The duo say they've more met their targets, turning over a reported 1.8 million last year.

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We are well ahead of the worst-case forecast that we gave in the Den. We haven't quite hit

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the best-case scenario that we presented but we are pretty happy with how things are going so far.

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Just push it in.

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And now the company is Tokyo bound with a new target to go global.

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They say they've sold over 60,000 units worldwide with 10,000 of

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their magical products sold in their first ten weeks of trading in Japan.

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The Japanese love our product. They didn't to start with really understand it. They don't have

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a heritage of a magic wand but once they got the idea, they absolutely loved it.

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And the company's rapid international success has not gone unnoticed.

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Chris and Richard have been working closely with

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the Government's trade and investment organisation to help meet their international targets.

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They have a programme called the OMIS programme

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where you can commission reports for different countries where they list the retailers,

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list the entry into those retailers and help you get into that market.

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Today the boys have been invited to rub shoulders with some of the country's

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business VIPs at the UK trade and investment strategy launch.

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And one of the biggest names at this exclusive event is Government Business Secretary Vince Cable.

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-Nice to meet you.

-I've heard about your exploits.

-Really?

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-You've got it in Japan.

-Exactly.

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Via the UKTI. We wanted to go there and it will probably be about

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-half our revenue this year.

-In Japan?

-Yeah.

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The Wand Company is an example of how Britain is going to recover and get out of its economic mess.

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They're a mini multinational already and they attribute a large part of

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their success, particularly in Japan, to their work with UKTI.

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The duo's realistic targets and solid approach have paved their way to success.

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The Wand Company, I see the two founders are in the front row, an amazing story...

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And it's all the more impressive given that they chose not to sign the deal with their Dragon investor.

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As it happens, within days they signed a new agreement with a distributor,

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but the Wand just started selling and flying off the shelves and they

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very politely turned round to me and said, "We are really sorry, Duncan, but we don't need you."

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I was very happy to let it go because they were right, they didn't need me.

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I think we'd have liked to have had his involvement.

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I think from our point of view, it has allowed us to take the company where we wanted to go without having

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to ask anybody else and I think we've done all right, actually.

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There's only one person responsible for turning a business plan

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into a successful venture, the entrepreneur.

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One of the things I say about investing is I've got to trust the people I invest in.

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So convincing the Dragons you can pull it off is absolutely essential.

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Investable as a person myself?

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No, absolutely not!

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So the Dragons' next piece of advice is YOU make it happen.

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# I'm on the right track, baby

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# I was born this way... #

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Once they like you, the Dragons will view everything you say positively.

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You are good and you've definitely got it so I expect we'll see you at some...

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You might even be sitting in one of these chairs one day.

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If they don't like you, it will be the reverse.

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I couldn't spend the time on my own dealing with you two, it would drive me round the bend.

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So what would happen now

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if I made you an offer and said I didn't want you two managing the company?

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And when it comes to the Dragons evaluating whether your business plan

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is going to sink or swim, the likeability factor is key.

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There is one individual that is going to make a business work

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and it is the entrepreneur that created the business plan in the first place.

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You could say to me, "Peter, if you were to put £100,000

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"into this product I will do nothing else until this works."

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This product does not require me working 100%.

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You might like that but it's not what it actually requires.

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It's important that they are determined, focused...

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-I've been self-employed since I was 13.

-Doing what?

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I had a little car wash company that I sold to my neighbour for £10.

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They've got to have all the qualities necessary to deliver business success.

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Businesses don't fail, aeroplanes don't crash, pilots crash airplanes.

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-The people fail.

-Is that true?

-Yes.

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If you don't believe in a business plan,

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if you don't have the enthusiasm to carry it out, it won't work.

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To be honest with you, I am only now interested in becoming

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a business person, it's actually coming to me now, I can feel it.

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Tell me how!

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I was tunnel-visioned and focused for 11 years totally on succeeding.

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And I ran it to plan.

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How on earth do you expect anybody to invest in you?

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You would make my foot itch. I'm out.

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One trio whose sheer determination has turned their business into

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a success are Ray Duffy, Chris O'Nyan and Dean Walton.

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They entered the Den in 2009 looking for investment of £50,000

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for 10% of their novelty mask company.

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We are the Three Masketeers from Masquerade.com,

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we create personalised and character products for stag dos, hen dos, corporate events and charity events.

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So you think if I have a party I'll order 400 masks of myself?

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No, your friend would order masks of you.

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The idea is you walk into a room and everybody is wearing your face.

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Wow. Wouldn't you love that, Peter? Everybody would be you.

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I do quite like that, actually.

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In spite of an endorsement from a seemingly airbrushed Duncan Bannatyne...

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I think the masks are fantastic.

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For that reason, I'd like to invest.

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-..the Dragons couldn't see money-making potential in their business plan.

-I'm afraid I'm out.

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-Thank you very much.

-Thanks, guys.

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Although the Dragons wouldn't invest, the entrepreneurial trio didn't give up on

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their business strategy and two years on their tenacity and vision

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has meant their company is growing into a successful brand.

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We sat down and plotted where we should be in three years

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and it is mirroring the conversation that we had.

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It's fantastic to realise where it's going.

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As part of their plan, the creative trio knew they needed

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an original marketing concept so they came up with a publicity-grabbing idea.

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Every time there was a celebrity in town, we always

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produced masks of them and set about going to meet them.

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The reaction has always been fantastic and we would follow that up with a photo,

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which we send to the local newspapers and nationals even.

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We have had an amazing success rate with our stories about celebrity encounters

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and our autograph mask collection, which is well over 100 and adorning our wall of fame.

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And the trio's business also benefited from the world's hottest ticket of 2011.

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We met a well-known chain store, they placed an initial order with us for Kate and William masks.

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They've now taken over 60,000 masks of us and they're selling like hot cakes at the moment.

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Last year the company reported a turnover £160,000 with a profit of £20,000

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but having already sold 300,000 masks this year, they say their profit is set to quadruple.

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But none of this would have happened without a bit of added grit and determination.

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This is our baby, our passion. It's what we've forsaken friends, family and everything for to build.

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The proof of the pudding is there in the figures and the amount our business increases month on month

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on month, it will make all the figures we thought it would and it will go above and beyond.

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If an entrepreneur wants their business plan to be taken seriously,

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they need to make sure their figures add up.

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Just praying everything sticks in my head and all the figures

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and everything look good in there, they are there when I need them.

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So the Dragons' next lesson is - get the numbers right.

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Some people come into the Den

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and show they really understand their business.

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How much profit did you make?

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We actually made a net of 170,000,

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but I invested 150 into the development of these products.

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And you get others who come to the Den who don't have the discipline

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to think about all the things that go into a business.

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And if you don't know your numbers, you don't know your business.

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-What's the return on that investment?

-Considerable.

-I'm looking for a number.

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-Turnover.

-SHE SIGHS

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Everything's just leaving me right now.

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The sales were... I think the turnover was...

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Numbers isn't my strong point, to be honest.

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I gathered numbers weren't your strong point!

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Once the Dragons do hear an entrepreneur's calculations,

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they might have wished they'd never asked.

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From the confused...

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-How much?

-60. Wait, 20...?

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No, it's not, sorry.

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That would be 480. No, it wouldn't.

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..to the bemused.

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-What's going to be the turnover?

-It should be about £100,000.

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The turnover was 200,000 and the profit was 100,000.

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He said 100,000 minute ago.

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-I know, but he's getting his figures mixed up.

-Should I ignore you?

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A little bit, I think!

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One couple who left the Dragons to figure it out were Liz and Alan Colleran.

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The husband and wife team entered the Den this year

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looking for investment in their innovative caravan sleeping bag.

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Hello, Dragons.

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Our company's Raskelf Memory Foam, and we're pitching for £80,000

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for 10% of our business.

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We've been married 28 years

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and our company came about from a simple idea we had whilst we were out caravanning with the children.

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Our bestselling product is also our most innovative product -

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the Duvalay.

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The Duvalay sleep system is really simple.

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It has a special memory foam base which smoothes out

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the lumps and bumps in caravan seats.

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It's joined, it can't come off, you can't get a cold back or bottom,

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you can have one for single or simply put two together to make a double.

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So far, we've sold about 10,000 of these units.

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So that's sales of about £1 million on this product alone.

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In fact, we can't make them fast enough.

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And we need your help and expertise

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to help us break into the huge European and American markets.

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Thank you for listening. Would you like to come and try?

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Liz and Alan had delivered their vision for the business.

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It is quite cosy, that.

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But it was Deborah Meaden who wanted to drill down further into the company figures.

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Can you talk me through your P&L just for last year,

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just tell me what you're spending your money on.

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-We've got a factory, shop, show rooms.

-Wages.

-Wages, staff...

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-What kind of money are they, then? Factory?

-Um...

-That's 16,000 a year.

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A lot of entrepreneurs don't understand a balance sheet,

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don't understand a P&L.

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And don't really understand the numbers.

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-Staff?

-Staff? We've got 10 staff.

-10 staff?

-Don't know.

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'I think as soon as you start to stutter or blunder on it,'

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you're more inclined for the Dragons to think,

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"Do they really know what they're talking about?"

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I don't know.

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-You don't know? Don't know.

-It doesn't sound good.

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'You have to know your numbers, and the profit and loss.'

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You HAVE to understand the fundamentals of your business.

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Erm...

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We don't know. We don't have those details, I'm afraid.

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Once that we couldn't get one of the figures out,

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that was it, Deborah really, you know, tore into us.

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I'm an investor.

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All I want to know from you

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is how your business works

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and things like what is your wage bill

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is pretty simple stuff.

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We were focusing on the product.

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We prepared the figures for the product and the sales.

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We probably neglected the fact the Dragons

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were going to invest in the business, not just the product.

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You should know. Absolutely you should know.

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Liz and Alan's lack of financial knowledge

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had gone down badly with the Dragons

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and three declared themselves out in quick succession.

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But would Deborah Meaden,

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who made her fortune in the holiday park industry,

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invest in the couple's caravanning business plan?

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You have got to give me a reason

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and enough information to want to hand you my money

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because I honestly... I promise you this,

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if you had, you'd have had an investment from me.

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I'm sorry, Deborah.

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And for that reason, I'm out.

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Only Hillary Devey remained, but would the new Dragon

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be able to overlook the duo's poor grasp of their finances?

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If I liked the product, and I could empathise with the people,

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and I can see a route to market, then I possibly would invest,

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even if they didn't have a business plan.

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You need some input into the business to help you

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with the direction, but because I do think it has got vision...

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..I'll offer you the full amount...

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..but I want 26%.

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-You couldn't make it 20%?

-No.

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I'm sorry, I can't move from 26. No.

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Can we go and have a word?

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Liz and Alan had secured an offer, but not knowing their figures had cost them dearly

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as Hillary was demanding 16% more equity

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than they'd originally wanted to give away.

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You're making big decisions in there, very big decisions.

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We'd had built a business over seven years

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and we're giving 26% of it away.

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And, you know, it's not something you do lightly.

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Yes, please! We'd love it. Thank you.

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APPLAUSE

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'If I was to go back into the Den,'

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I would definitely make sure I knew those figures.

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You'd be foolish not to.

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-Look forward to working with you guys.

-Thank you, we do as well.

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Once a deal has been agreed in principle in the Den,

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both parties go through the regular business process of due diligence before the contract is finalised.

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Is there a lot to go today?

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You've got one done? All sorted. Lovely.

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Four weeks on, Liz and Alan are itching to get their Dragon's input

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into the family business they run with their two sons.

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Hillary will bring to the business some focus.

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There's so many different ways our business could go and so many different ideas that we've got,

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it's hard trying to structure them all.

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Last year, the company turned over just under £800,000,

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making a profit of £108,000.

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But with their Dragon on board,

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the couple might one day be able to stump up the cash

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for a quaint little country retreat like Hillary's.

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-This is my home.

-Lovely house.

-This is lovely, yeah. Gorgeous.

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Today, Liz and Alan are meeting Hillary to discuss the best strategy

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-for taking the company forward.

-Come on through, I'll make you a cup of tea.

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And the couple know exactly what they want out of their Dragon.

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'She's doing in Europe now what we want to do.'

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She's gradually expanding her business into different countries individually.

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'We need somebody to help us get into the other countries

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'and how to structure it there.'

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We need advice with that, there's no two ways about it.

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We did wonder what you'd think about our plans getting into Europe, what would be the best way forward.

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I think with your product is to find master licensors

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in each country to act as agents to sell the product.

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That way, they're paying the manufacturing costs

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and all you're taking is for every product sold,

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you're taking a royalty from it.

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-That's really interesting, isn't it?

-It is.

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-It's easy and it's possible.

-Yeah.

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Shaking hands with a Dragon comes with a wealth of benefits,

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but it also means you might have to make some difficult decisions.

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Before the deal is finalised with Liz and Alan,

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Hillary wants to voice her concerns about their future plans

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to hand the reins over to their two sons.

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One thing I want you to know from me is

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I would not want to be involved as a minority investor

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with all your family involved

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because I'd be displaced.

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I personally would prefer that we run it more of a commercial venture.

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You're only small now,

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but we're not going to be small, are we?

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In five years' time, we're going to be a substantial business.

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-Yep, yeah.

-So what matters is bottom line.

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We've not said we are building this business up

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to just give it to our children because we've worked really hard, you know,

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and we make the decisions and we'll do whatever is right

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because we haven't worked this hard to fail.

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So we've got a lot of work to do and this has got to become

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-a big, big business with a big brand.

-Yeah.

-Absolutely.

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Hillary's ambitious plans for the Collerans' business

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also include an exit strategy that will benefit them all,

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so Liz and Alan have some serious decisions to make.

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'Deep down, we all want the same outcome'

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so if we can achieve what we all want, then perfect.

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I just hope they listen and take the advice,

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because I am investing in their future

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as well as trying to get a return back on my own investment.

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If you want to win in the Den,

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an impressive business plan is a must.

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So, these are six simple lessons from the Dragons

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that could help you start a moneymaking venture of your own.

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Putting a price on the hard work may seem impossible to an entrepreneur,

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but entering the Den with a racy valuation on your business plan

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rarely goes down well with the Dragons.

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You know, a company that loses money every year

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and has been valued at 2.5 million is quite ridiculous.

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So, the Dragons' next lesson is make sure the price is right.

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The mistake that some entrepreneurs make is to go too far down the road of projecting.

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£3 million you value this product at.

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We value it at more than that, to be honest.

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'Having so much faith in what they're doing,'

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so much self-belief that, actually, they just look faintly deluded.

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It's not worth £3, let alone £3 million, Fraser, and I'm out.

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We do get an amazing amount of people coming up with the most ridiculous valuations.

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You value your business at the moment at £1 million.

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We know it's worth diddly squat.

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-We've based it on projected turnover over the next three years.

-Oh, OK.

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So, you want me to invest now based on a valuation in three years' time?

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When they're coming up with, "We need 100K, 200K,"

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that is what they think they need to get that product to market.

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That is not a valuation of what their product or business is worth.

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You've got a business that you value at half a million pounds. How?

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Come on, snap, snap. You should have the answer.

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'To be credible,'

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you've got to understand business valuations.

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You come in here and you say, "I value this at 1.5 million,

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"although I've only got £1,200 worth of turnover."

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'Otherwise I'm going to look at them'

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and think, "You haven't got a clue, have you?"

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I wouldn't give you £150,000 for 100% of it, at the moment!

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And, therefore, the next two words that come out of my mouth are...

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I'm out.

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..I'm out.

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One man who shocked the Dragons

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with the price he put on his company was Gavin Wheeldon.

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He entered the Den in 2007 looking for an investment

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in his online translation company.

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I'm here today to ask for £250,000

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for a 4% equity.

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'You could see visible shock.'

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Everybody sat back, and "Did he really just say that?"

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We've achieved a lot, we've had an aggressive growth in three years.

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We are set to do 3.2 million turnover this year.

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We need some help to do that and a bit of money as well.

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Gavin had an excellent turnover,

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but could he justify the £6 million valuation of his business?

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Your valuation, from where I'm sitting, looks like this -

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21-22 times prospective earnings.

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Uh-huh, OK.

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Do you expect me to feel a little bit uncomfortable?

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If you start putting such a high valuation on your business,

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you risk losing any sort of investment from the Dragons.

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At the end of the day,

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something's only worth as much as someone's prepared to spend.

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My intention is within five years to float for 60 million,

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so the 4% will give a 2.4 million return.

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Duncan Bannantyne saw potential in Gavin's business

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and offered him 50% of the money.

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If I'd invest £125,000,

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I'd want 9% of your company.

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He'd obviously sat quietly, done a few sums, and saw the value in it.

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But Gavin couldn't convince another Dragon

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to invest the remaining £125,000.

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The risk is too high for an investor.

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I think I might as well state now - I'm out.

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So, four years on, has Gavin managed to prove

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that the £6 million price tag was right?

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When I left the Den, I was determined I will prove you wrong.

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And that's what I've done.

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What we've achieved today as a business more than proves the valuation was absolutely right.

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What language would you like to book for the interpreter?

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Gavin says he's just secured a lucrative contract

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supplying translation services for the Ministry of Justice.

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We'll be up to 50 million turnover in the next two years.

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Now we're worth well over 30 million

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and by the time we expand this contract,

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we'll be worth well over 100 million.

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'Even if they'd have invested in the 4% for quarter of a million, they'd have made a massive return,'

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so big mistake there on the Dragons' part.

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I'd just like to say thank you to everybody involved.

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-Cheers!

-(ALL) Cheers!

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And with his company continuing to grow,

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the Dragons better not get too comfortable.

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We're going to be up there, similar size to some of the Dragons

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in terms of turnover, so keep those chairs nice and warm!

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When launching a new business,

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you've got to make sure your timing is right on the money.

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I had my Eureka moment.

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It started to take shape about 2008.

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So, the Dragons' next lesson is it's all about timing.

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Business is as much an art as a science.

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The helicopter car combines two of the hottest big boys' toys -

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a remote-controlled car and a helicopter in one.

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If you can get the right idea, the right product,

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at the right time, you're well on your way.

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Wait for this economic climate to settle down a bit better,

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then launch your business.

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A good idea at the wrong time isn't going to work.

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Bright PC manufacture the world's most energy-efficient computer equipment.

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I know this market very, very well and you're 20 years behind.

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Lighting Emotions design, manufacture and sells glow-in-the-dark glasses.

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-I was selling light-up drinks in these...

-Yes?

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..probably five years ago.

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Timing is everything.

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One entrepreneur whose business plan was timed to perfection

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was Patrick van der Vorst.

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The Belgian auctioneer entered the Den in 2010

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looking for a £100,000 investment

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for 20% of his online antique valuation business.

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The idea grew when I was working at Sotheby's

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that actually there's no easy way for people to find out

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what the value is of their items,

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of their art and antique. I think everybody at home

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has got a teapot or maybe a chair

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that they'd like to know the value of

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and I think maybe they might feel intimidated

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to pick up the phone to an auction house

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or go to see a dealer directly.

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So what we do is our customers come onto our website.

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They upload a photograph of their item and within 48 hours,

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one of our 28 experts will reply back to the customer.

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So many people have got things

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and they think, "It's an old bit of tat,"

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and it's worth hundreds or thousands, really worth money.

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You can find out, you know, do I have something that I can go out and flog and get myself a brand-new car.

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I thought that was a brilliant idea.

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It was an assured pitch, but Deborah Meaden

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wanted to know more about Patrick's business model.

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-What's your average transaction value?

-Er...£4.50.

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Plus the additional revenue streams like the advertising.

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How many unique businesses do you think you're going to have

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to actually attract advertising revenue?

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Hopefully, we'll get about 100,000 unique visitors a month.

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How?

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-Through Google advertising.

-How much are you going to spend on that?

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At the moment, I'm spending £4,000-£5,000 a month.

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How many unique visitors do you get at the moment?

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Unique visitors, we get 20,000 unique visitors a month.

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And we have a conversion rate of 3.6%.

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I'll tell you what's not adding up.

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-20,000 unique visitors.

-Yes.

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3.6%. That's 720 customers.

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720 customers paying 4.99 is 3,600

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and if you're spending 5K a month on Google AdWords to get 3,600 worth of revenue, you haven't got a business.

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When it came to Peter, he really sort of drilled down

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deep into the figures and I think it was a pivotal moment in the pitch.

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Those figures are based on unique visitors.

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About 25% of the customers bring repeat business.

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We have got clients who have bought 15 or 20 times,

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sort of new credit.

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We had a customer last Friday who spent 350.

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Patrick had proved there were profits to be made,

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but was it enough to convince Duncan Bannatyne to invest?

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Patrick, what I am going to do is go home...

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In fact, I am going to go to all three of my houses,

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I am going to photograph all my antiques.

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I am going to send them to you.

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-Right.

-And I'll get you to value them.

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Yes.

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I don't think it's an investable product, so I won't invest.

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For that reason,

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Patrick, I'm out, but were going to have a good time together valuing my antiques.

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Former Dragon James Caan and Peter Jones chose not to invest

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but would the last two multimillionaires think the time was right?

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Do you know what, I think in a time of austerity

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people will be looking at actually selling things.

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They will be looking at value.

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So I think you will get a lot more demand on your website.

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I actually like it.

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I think Theo hit the nail on the head,

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the timing for the concept and the website was exactly right.

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I am prepared to make you an offer.

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Half the money for 20%.

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Mmm-hmm.

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I completely agree with Theo

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that if this website was ever going to have its moment,

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it's going to be now.

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I'll match Theo's offer.

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OK.

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'They say while the iron is hot, you've got to strike.'

0:41:280:41:32

When the time comes you've got to move with it.

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I have thought about it, and I would be delighted to proceed.

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Excellent.

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I firmly believe that if you have got the right time for that product,

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then you will find the right place to get that product to market.

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A year later, and Patrick has moved to new premises in Westminster,

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where he has proved the timing was perfect

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for his business to succeed.

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When I went into the Den a year ago,

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we had done 10,000 valuations.

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Now we have done 65,000 valuations.

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We had 6,500 customers, I believe.

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Now we've got 35,000 customers.

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We launched an agency service where we'll assist people going to auction.

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The most rewarding aspect of all that though

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is customers keep coming back to us, and there is a lot of repeat custom.

0:42:300:42:34

Patrick is keen to capitalise on his website's growing market,

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but ensures he never takes his eye of how his business is performing.

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Today he's in Sussex to see if his latest valued lots

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have achieved the price they predicted,

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and one of his Dragon investors is here to discuss how the business is progressing.

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From the offset I could see where Value My Stuff could go,

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and I see this as an international business.

0:42:590:43:02

Today is as much as about just seeing, was I right?

0:43:020:43:05

Was this the right time?

0:43:050:43:06

Hi, Patrick.

0:43:070:43:09

-Hi, how are you?

-Very well. How are you?

0:43:090:43:12

Very well, thank you.

0:43:120:43:13

It took me a while to get through, you've got some lovely stuff.

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Lovely paintings, very nice drawings as well.

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We have got two lots which we sold yesterday very successfully,

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on behalf of some of our clients who asked for advice, it is exciting.

0:43:230:43:26

I'm going to start at £4,000.

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On average, Patrick says his website does up to 250 valuations a day

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and has over 50,000 unique visitors a month.

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Finishing at £4,800.

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And his customer base is continuing to grow at a steady pace.

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You've been in this industry for a long time.

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But you spotted the moment

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when you felt it was ready, and ripe,

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to do something different.

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What made you think it was the right time?

0:44:020:44:04

From a technological point of view, five years ago,

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most people didn't have digital cameras.

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Now most people have a camera on their phones,

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so it is almost the first time

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that it is very easy for people to upload items onto the internet.

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I suspect if you'd done it five years ago...

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It wouldn't have worked five years ago.

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Now we are the first ones in there to try and capture the market.

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What's your dream? How big do you think this can get?

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We have a wonderful opportunity I think in China

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which at the moment I think

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already makes up for 45% of the global art market.

0:44:350:44:40

For them, when I spoke to our contact there,

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he said actually

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people would be willing to pay

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double or triple the amount for a valuation,

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if the valuation could come with a printout

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or a photograph of the expert holding up the valuation.

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Interesting. In the UK it wouldn't make any difference.

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In the UK it wouldn't make a difference, over there in China...

0:45:000:45:04

Great.

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Patrick says the company's turnover has grown three and a half times

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since his appearance on the Den, and with new markets emerging,

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the future is looking bright for his online service.

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Timing in business is very important.

0:45:180:45:20

An uncle told me once years ago,

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he said the difference between a successful person and an unsuccessful person is one second.

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It's actually very true.

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When you can be the first person in there to capture a market,

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that is exactly the position that you want to be in.

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When Patrick came into the Den he believed the time was right.

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I thought the time was right,

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but actually as we stand here today,

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we have proved the time is right.

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If an entrepreneur's business plan fails to impress in the Den...

0:45:590:46:02

You'll never make a penny from this market.

0:46:020:46:06

-Fair enough.

-I am out.

-OK.

0:46:060:46:08

..should they accept defeat or carry on regardless?

0:46:080:46:14

I do honestly feel for somebody like that. He has tried everybody, everybody had said no.

0:46:140:46:19

This is his last throw of the dice.

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And he needed the honesty today.

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Oh, he did. It was one of those moments he's feeling crushed

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and I think it's one of the best days of his life.

0:46:270:46:31

So the Dragons' final lesson is - know when to stop.

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I think it is so important to get a realistic plan from the outset,

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and that makes it much easier for you to appraise where you are.

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Year five, which was 2011,

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I made a loss of just over 100,000.

0:46:510:46:54

It also makes it a little bit easier for you to say to yourself,

0:46:550:46:59

it is time to get out.

0:46:590:47:01

Why would you want to invest in a business that doesn't make money?

0:47:010:47:04

You have to invest to get to where you are.

0:47:040:47:06

I have never, ever invested in a business

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and waited five years for it to start making money.

0:47:100:47:14

But knowing when to give up is easier said than done,

0:47:170:47:20

especially when an entrepreneur eats, sleeps and breathes their business.

0:47:200:47:24

They clearly believe in it.

0:47:240:47:27

You are going to sell your house to back this?

0:47:270:47:29

I firmly believe in this product.

0:47:290:47:31

And then you are just quashing their dreams.

0:47:310:47:34

Do not sell your house for this.

0:47:340:47:38

I don't know what makes them so passionate about something they can't see

0:47:380:47:42

the obvious things that tell me this cannot work, can't make money.

0:47:420:47:46

It can never, ever be a decent business.

0:47:460:47:49

Have you had any response from anybody who wants to place an order?

0:47:490:47:52

No, we haven't had any response.

0:47:520:47:54

They still continue with that passion because they've got one idea,

0:47:550:47:59

maybe they can't think of a second idea, they're just passionate about one idea.

0:47:590:48:03

I urge you, urge you not to do this.

0:48:030:48:09

Two entrepreneurs whose cute companion impressed the Dragons,

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but whose business plan sadly did not,

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were Stephen Mitchell and Michael Ehrenreich.

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They entered the Den last year

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looking for investment in their innovative buggy bike.

0:48:230:48:26

We are looking for a £225,000 investment,

0:48:280:48:31

and we are offering 6% of our company.

0:48:310:48:34

The Zigo carrier cycle is a multi-mode cycle.

0:48:340:48:38

It is very stable, great all-round vision,

0:48:380:48:40

first mode as you see it now, child pod in front, cycle behind.

0:48:400:48:45

You've put a rather large valuation on your product.

0:48:470:48:52

I'm going to ask you, why?

0:48:520:48:55

I'll take that.

0:48:550:48:58

We're not a start-up company, exactly. We have previous investors.

0:48:580:49:02

We've sold about 500 units to date,

0:49:020:49:04

revenues for the last 12 months is approximately 400,000 US dollars.

0:49:040:49:09

-You've spent all that?

-Yes.

-Have you borrowed any more?

0:49:090:49:12

I've put in a substantial sum personally.

0:49:120:49:14

We had a plan. The key thing we were never going to say

0:49:160:49:19

was how much we spent on development.

0:49:190:49:21

I've put in 1,300,000.

0:49:220:49:26

You've put 1,300,000?

0:49:260:49:31

-Yes.

-Wow.

0:49:310:49:33

At that point, I wished a trap door open and swallow me up.

0:49:330:49:37

With such an enormous amount of money already invested,

0:49:390:49:43

Deborah Meaden was curious to know how their business plan was panning out.

0:49:430:49:48

So financially, by now, where did your backers

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believe they were going to be and where are they now?

0:49:510:49:55

We expected it to be profitable by now, and we're not.

0:49:550:49:58

-We're going to make a loss this year.

-How much?

-Approximately £200,000.

0:49:580:50:02

'At that point, maybe he should have said, "Sorry, guys,

0:50:020:50:05

"it's been a massive misunderstanding,"

0:50:050:50:08

and he should have just tiptoed down the stairs, with a little bit of pride.

0:50:080:50:13

'It was pretty...'

0:50:140:50:16

It was terrible.

0:50:160:50:18

With such an unprofitable track record, all five Dragons declined to invest.

0:50:200:50:25

I think you're kidding yourselves. For that reason, I'm out.

0:50:270:50:30

'Sometimes, you need that sharp shock.'

0:50:310:50:35

You've had a go, it didn't work, cut your losses, go.

0:50:350:50:39

It's been a year since Stephen and Michael entered the Den.

0:50:400:50:44

But did the duo turn their back on their business plan?

0:50:440:50:49

Did I feel like giving up? Well, in parts I didn't want to be there, but we're still running,

0:50:490:50:55

they're still manufactured.

0:50:550:50:57

We've sold just under 2,000 in the last 18 months.

0:50:570:51:01

I've still got a very tiny stake in the business, it doesn't generate any cash for me.

0:51:010:51:06

But Stephen's entrepreneurial spirit is still strong

0:51:080:51:11

and he's just embarked on a new and very different business plan...

0:51:110:51:14

a website that compares prices... for funerals.

0:51:140:51:18

What we aim to do with Comparethecoffin.com is allow people to make a plan online,

0:51:200:51:26

and then we send it to funeral directors, who bid for the business.

0:51:260:51:30

This one is my favourite.

0:51:300:51:32

Stephen's online service will be free,

0:51:320:51:35

but he's hoping customers will choose to buy their coffins from him.

0:51:350:51:40

There is very few occasions in business life

0:51:400:51:43

where you get to change a whole industry, and this is going to be one of them.

0:51:430:51:47

In fact, Stephen is so confident his new business plan is a dead cert

0:51:500:51:55

that he's invited Theo Paphitis to his latest coffin catalogue shoot

0:51:550:52:00

in the hope the Dragon will want to invest.

0:52:000:52:04

'I would love to have Mr Paphitis as a partner,

0:52:040:52:06

'I think he could bring a lot to the party.

0:52:060:52:09

'You can carry on selling ladies' underwear

0:52:090:52:13

'or come with me and change the world.'

0:52:130:52:15

-Nice to meet you again, sir.

-How are you doing?

-Good, actually.

0:52:150:52:19

-Where's your mate?

-I left him in America, I thought it was safer.

0:52:190:52:23

-And you have gone into the coffin business?

-With a twist.

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Although Stephen's new business may not have the instant appeal of ladies' lingerie,

0:52:300:52:35

he's hoping the profit potential in his stock will impress retail giant Theo.

0:52:350:52:40

What does it sell for?

0:52:400:52:42

-To the trader or the consumer?

-Both.

0:52:420:52:45

The trade price is roundabout 450, 500.

0:52:450:52:51

The consumer price can be anything between 2,800 and 3,500.

0:52:510:52:55

-Amazing.

-It is. Do you know the average spend on a funeral in this country?

0:52:550:53:01

-Go on.

-£6,500.

0:53:010:53:03

But is it enough to persuade the Dragon to part with his money?

0:53:050:53:09

Looking around me, I'm seeing nothing but the grim reaper.

0:53:090:53:13

I found it difficult to get passionate about death.

0:53:130:53:16

-But isn't it unique? Nobody else...

-Nothing is unique.

0:53:160:53:19

Listen, if you were doing it and it was any good,

0:53:190:53:22

there'd be 1,000 websites doing the same thing.

0:53:220:53:25

If you make three years, you've got half a chance.

0:53:250:53:28

On that note, I'm out.

0:53:280:53:31

Theo may have passed on the chance to invest in Stephen's business,

0:53:330:53:37

but there's no way this determined entrepreneur is giving up the ghost.

0:53:370:53:41

I still think this is the best idea I personally have ever had.

0:53:410:53:45

Like he said, it's just not for him. I think it would be for Peter Jones.

0:53:450:53:49

We've learnt that a successful business plan is all about setting realistic targets.

0:54:000:54:05

We are projecting, conservatively, £1.2 million for this year.

0:54:050:54:09

OK.

0:54:090:54:10

You making it happen.

0:54:100:54:13

Knowing your figures.

0:54:130:54:14

You should know.

0:54:140:54:16

Absolutely, you should know.

0:54:160:54:17

Pricing it right, timing, and knowing when to give up.

0:54:190:54:22

I've put in £1,300,000.

0:54:220:54:26

Wow.

0:54:260:54:28

But after nine series of the Den,

0:54:280:54:30

whose business plan ticked all the boxes?

0:54:300:54:33

Well, there's one entrepreneur whose meticulous planning

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blows most of the competition out of the water.

0:54:370:54:40

Imran had everything in place.

0:54:460:54:49

He had a great pitch, got everything right,

0:54:490:54:51

but above all, what he got right was his business plan.

0:54:510:54:54

He managed to pull every cord, tie them all up in a beautiful not,

0:54:540:54:57

and I think he had the dragons eating out of his hands.

0:54:570:55:01

iTeddy brings the teddy bear into the 21st century by incorporating

0:55:010:55:06

a personal media player...

0:55:060:55:08

He gave a great visualisation of his product.

0:55:080:55:11

And then he gave us a complete stepping-stone

0:55:110:55:14

of all the things he would do to make his business successful.

0:55:140:55:17

It's a very simple-to-use

0:55:170:55:21

child-friendly menu system.

0:55:210:55:23

I can put a movie clip on for you.

0:55:250:55:28

If I wanted to go on to the audio player, just scroll to the audio player,

0:55:280:55:32

and I can now play myself a bedtime story.

0:55:320:55:35

I put together the strong plan.

0:55:370:55:40

The initial idea, the product specifications,

0:55:400:55:42

the technical aspects, how much I was going to make it for,

0:55:420:55:45

how much I was going to distribute and retail it for.

0:55:450:55:49

-Did you develop it?

-Yes, from scratch.

-From scratch?

-Yes.

0:55:490:55:53

-What price are you looking to sell it at?

-For the MP4 version, £28. For the MP3 version, £20.

0:55:570:56:04

We can make a 46% margin on the MP4.

0:56:040:56:10

'He knew his margins,'

0:56:100:56:12

he knew what the retailer margins were,

0:56:120:56:14

he really had a solid business plan behind his product.

0:56:140:56:17

The iTeddy, I would definitely have invested in.

0:56:170:56:21

It's a sustainable business model, it can continue to create revenue

0:56:210:56:25

and it can continue to innovate. Those are the best business models.

0:56:250:56:29

Imran's impressive business plan

0:56:310:56:33

generated offers from computer expert Peter Jones

0:56:330:56:36

and retail giant Theo Paphitis.

0:56:360:56:38

He made a joint deal with both the Dragons.

0:56:380:56:41

If I had been sitting there as a Dragon, I would have invested in Imran.

0:56:410:56:45

I think that's one of the best businesses I've seen out of Dragons' Den.

0:56:450:56:49

Within months of leaving the Den,

0:56:560:56:58

the company had signed an exclusive deal with one of the UK's leading high-street toy retailers,

0:56:580:57:03

which they say enabled them to achieve its three-year sales forecasts

0:57:030:57:06

in just the first six months of trading.

0:57:060:57:10

From then on, we started selling in 45 countries around the world,

0:57:120:57:16

it was a top-10 toy in quite a few countries around the world.

0:57:160:57:21

You take one of these away...

0:57:210:57:23

Imran's business plan has been so successful,

0:57:260:57:29

he's now passing on his knowledge to up-and-coming entrepreneurs.

0:57:290:57:34

Approach the market from a completely different angle from everything else out there.

0:57:340:57:38

He's a shareholder in an organisation that helps start-up companies find investors.

0:57:380:57:43

What I'm going to try and do from today is establish where the gaps are in the business plan

0:57:430:57:48

and hopefully, between us, we can try and strengthen that up a bit.

0:57:480:57:52

But with a reported £23 million worth of retail sales from his first product,

0:57:520:57:57

what is the next step in Imran's business plan?

0:57:570:58:01

The toy industry is a fashion industry.

0:58:020:58:04

And once you've got a product that sells very well for two or three years,

0:58:040:58:08

you have to quickly come up with a product that takes its place.

0:58:080:58:13

We've got development on the table, we've got to make sure we get the technology right,

0:58:130:58:17

when we bring it to market the timing is right,

0:58:170:58:21

and we're very excited.

0:58:210:58:22

Watch this space.

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