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We used to picnic where the thrift grew deep and tufted to the edge. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:15 | |
We saw the yellow foam flakes drift in trembling sponges on the ledge below us | 0:00:15 | 0:00:20 | |
till the wind would lift them up the cliff and o'er the hedge. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
Sand in the sandwiches, wasps in the tea, sun on our bathing dresses | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
heavy with the wet, squelch of the bladder-wrack waiting for the sea, | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
fleas round the tamarisk, an early cigarette. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
In the late 1960s, I was an undergraduate at Oxford doing English, | 0:00:50 | 0:00:55 | |
and I was really into people like TS Eliot, Sylvia Plath, | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
and the girls were into Leonard Cohen, of course. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
If you wanted to get anywhere with them, you had to be in with Leonard, too. Very gloomy. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:07 | |
So the thought of a very optimistic poet like John Betjeman, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
when he was talking about village steeples | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
and holidaymakers in the sand, and splendour, splendour everywhere, it would not have worked. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:19 | |
But I've lived here in Cornwall ever since university, | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
and in fact, John Betjeman lived just over Bray Hill over there. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
Everything he wrote about in his poetry, the sun, the sea, | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
the larks in the sky, the lark sang melodious, the blue sky, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
it's all in those poems, so no wonder I'm such a fan. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
I feel I've got something in common with Sir John. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
Both our families originated in Germany, and both found a sense of escape in Cornwall. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:47 | |
My father and uncle built a house here, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
and it became a haven that I was to enjoy for most of my early life. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:54 | |
John Betjeman's retreat was on the other side of the estuary, but he knew Padstow well. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:59 | |
I'm getting to know the man behind the poem | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
by finding people who knew him and really understood his affection for this part of the world. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:07 | |
My idea is to cook them a celebratory centenary meal in his honour, the sort of food | 0:02:07 | 0:02:13 | |
he'd enjoy for himself after a day's surfing at Polzeath Beach, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
or just wondering amongst the tamarisk, searching for a muse. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
It's funny, really. There's loads of books about John Betjeman's life | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
and poetry, but not many of them give a clue about what he would like to eat. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:29 | |
I really hope he liked fish. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
When I was about 15, I started reading John Betjeman's poetry, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
especially his Cornish verse. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
They were so much better read by firelight in the depth of winter. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
They bring to life the sights and sounds and smells | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
of a Cornish beach, nobody does it better. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
And it's on that long train journey from Paddington down to Cornwall | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
that you get that first exciting glimpse of the sea, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
when the train approaches Dawlish, to disgorge holidaymakers | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
from London, the Midlands and all points east. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
It's where the smell of ozone, seaweed and suntan lotion | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
fill the carriages with optimism for the family holiday to come. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
He captured the very essence of the British seaside holiday, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:23 | |
right down to the dinner gong in the guest house, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
days of messing about on deckchairs, sandcastles, rock pools, | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
swims before afternoon tea - weather permitting, of course. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
If you continue down the line, you can lose yourself | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
in an altogether more solitary and magical place. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
There's something about Cornwall that's always excited artists and writers. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
It's to do with the quality of the light and the wild, romantic nature of the place. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:57 | |
Regardless of where we come from, | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
Cornwall touches a nerve in all of us. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
Betjeman instinctively knew the sheer joy of just being by the sea. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:09 | |
George III took the seaside cure for biliousness. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:17 | |
We need the seaside cure for relief from anxiety and tension. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:23 | |
We need it to realise there's something greater than ourselves, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:28 | |
even if it only comes in little things. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
Turf, scented with thyme and mushrooms. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
The feel of firm sand underfoot. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
The ripple of an incoming tide. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
A salt breeze, the smell of seaweed. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
That's where the cure is, at the sea's edge. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
I've known about this so-called seaside cure all of my life, | 0:04:56 | 0:05:01 | |
and it's really at the very core of my being | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
and my business here in Padstow. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
I was brought up in Oxfordshire a long way from the sea, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
and like John Betjeman, I was sent away | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
from home to a boarding school and couldn't wait to tick off the days | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
until the summer holidays came around, | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
and the family would all troop down to Padstow for the best time ever. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:22 | |
Escape. Escape from the holiday crowds. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:33 | |
Over Saltash Bridge. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
Saltash Bridge by Isambard Kingdom Brunel, 1859, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:43 | |
the first railway link between Cornwall and England. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
Cornwall - not another county, another country. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:53 | |
For years, an all-day journey by train, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
and a wild reward at the end of it. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
I happen to know that this was John Betjeman's favourite train journey. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
Well, of course it was. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
Going over the Tamar is still a magical experience for me, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
just as it was for him. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
But what he liked particularly was the journey from Waterloo, | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
all the way to the utter endness of the end of the line at Padstow. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:28 | |
In fact, when I was young, I used to do that journey, too. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
It took forever, it took about nine hours, and all the way down, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
you'd be shedding carriages, and the train would get smaller. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
As you went over that last bridge into Padstow, there were just two carriages on it. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:44 | |
He wrote about it so nicely in Summoned By Bells, | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
and here's a bit from it: | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
"The long express from Waterloo that takes us down to Cornwall. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:55 | |
"Teatime shows the small fields waiting, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
"every blackthorn hedge straining inland before the south-west gale." | 0:06:58 | 0:07:03 | |
He's so good at summing things up. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
I'm right in a Cornish gale, a gale of wind there. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
"The emptying train, wind in the ventilators, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
"puffs out of Egloskerry to Tresmeer, | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
"through minty meadows, under bearded trees and hills | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
"upon whose sides the clinging farms hold Bible Christians." | 0:07:18 | 0:07:23 | |
Can it really be that this same carriage came from Waterloo? | 0:07:23 | 0:07:28 | |
On Wadebridge station, what a breath of sea scented the Camel Valley. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:37 | |
Cornish air, soft Cornish rains, and silence after steam, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:42 | |
as out of Derry's stable came the break to drag us up | 0:07:42 | 0:07:47 | |
those long, familiar hills, past haunted woods, | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
and oil-lit farms, and on to far Trebetherick by the sounding sea. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:57 | |
This is the Camel estuary, | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
which provided John Betjeman with much of his inspiration. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
This place gave him a sense of freedom, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
a release from an unhappy childhood in London, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
and he's never really left it. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
He's buried here, in the middle of the golf course, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
in a little graveyard beside his beloved St Enodoc. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
Thanks to that so-called expert on railways in the sixties, Dr Beeching, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:40 | |
the London train no longer goes to the utter endness | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
of the end of the line in Padstow. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
The old railway track is now a cycle trail. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
Well, it suits me. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
Apparently, the young Betjeman thought nothing of cycling | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
15 or 20 miles a day around the lanes of Cornwall, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
searching for wild flowers and churches. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
The open air was warm and heavy with the scent of flowering mint, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:05 | |
and all the baking countryside was kind. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
I get the feeling he was a bit of a loner as a lad, | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
and not too fond of organised games, or organised anything, come to that. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
Like me, he needed a bolt hole, somewhere to be quiet and apart. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:20 | |
It was the same in later life. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
This was his home in Daymer Lane, here in Trebetherick, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
a welcome retreat from London life where he did a lot of his writing. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:30 | |
Down the bottom of the lane is St Enodoc church, with its witches hat. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
That's his mother there. And this is Cliff Snell. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
He retired to Wadebridge 20 years ago, and although he never met JB, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:47 | |
he's become something of an authority, | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
and is a popular guide for the many tourists who visit his grave. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
If you go back to the early 1900s, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
he was living a very repressive life in Highgate, going to school, | 0:09:56 | 0:10:02 | |
which he didn't like particularly, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
and then suddenly to come down here by train, which he adored, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:09 | |
and he'd come out by horse and cart - | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
that's all the taxis were in those days - and then can you imagine | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
waking up next morning and running down to the high tide, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
over this particular spot? | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
He loved it when it was low tide because he could see | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
nobody else had been on that sand at all except himself. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
Can you imagine the young boy looking behind | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
and seeing his footmarks all the way down to the sea? | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
I think the reason I like him so much | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
is because I had similar feelings. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
I remember me and my sister squabbling about who'd be | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
the first to see the sea when we drove in the old Jaguar. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
It was somewhere between Wadebridge and Padstow. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
Because I was older, I knew where I could see the sea, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
and she used to get so cross. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:53 | |
Can't you remember the sheer joy of suddenly there was the sea, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:58 | |
as he says, on Wadebridge station? | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
"What a breath of sea, the scent of the Camel Valley." | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
I can remember that. Suddenly, somewhere, that's the sea. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
And he wasn't on his own, friends used to come as well. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
He preferred going out on his own, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
but he loved to have afternoon picnics on the sand. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
The whole thing was childhood as it should be today but no longer is. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:23 | |
Here I am down in Cornwall. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
It's the most precious fortnight in the year for me. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
I can't help coming down here every year without fail. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:38 | |
The outline of the hills seen through the windows there, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:43 | |
and Padstow, far off across the estuary are still the same, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
and so are the smells of sea and thyme-scented turf on these cliffs. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:53 | |
The Atlantic and the sands are still the same. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
They can't build on them, thank goodness. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
He has captured a whole age of the '20s and '30s, tennis girls, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:08 | |
gin and lime, the Six o'clock News, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
"Miss J Hunter Dunn, furnish'd and burnish'd by Aldershot sun, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
"what strenuous singles we played after tea. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
"We in the tournaments, you against me." | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
All those gorgeous things. He talks about going into the cool veranda | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
for a lime juice and gin, and then listening to the Six o'clock News. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:32 | |
Of course, when I came here nearly 50 years ago, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
there were hardly any houses, and the fields now are all | 0:12:35 | 0:12:40 | |
peppered with villas, and I can remember it as just two farms. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:45 | |
And now, though I'm old and fat and ugly, I can still enjoy | 0:12:45 | 0:12:50 | |
as intensely as I did when a child all those little things | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
that make Cornwall so different from England. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
I see it all as I used to know it in the days of horse breaks, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:03 | |
and silence, silence except for the sound of the wind | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
in the tamarisk and the crash of the waves. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
We weren't Cornish, any of us, we were visitors, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
and we came here for Easter and summer holidays. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
And those gardens, which seemed so enormous then, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
are full of the ghosts of hide and seek and treasure hunts. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:29 | |
I think most people liked him because he was a popular poet. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:38 | |
Ordinary people can understand the surface of the poetry. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
If you want to look deeper, you can do, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
and there's usually quite a dark strain underneath. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:50 | |
A rather melancholy man sometimes. Yes, I think he's melancholy, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
but I mean that in a way I totally understand. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
I just wonder why poetry has to be difficult to be serious. | 0:13:55 | 0:14:00 | |
Exactly. He was very pleased... | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
When he eventually wrote his autobiography, Summoned By Bells, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
which is wonderful, that was received with acclaim the worldwide over. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:11 | |
I think that took away some of the worry about his previous work | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
being dismissed as not very good. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
His peculiarly English light verse always managed to capture a popular mood, and he loved nothing more than | 0:14:20 | 0:14:26 | |
to have a mischievous dig at middle class pretensions. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
I think the problem with Betjeman is that he can be very funny, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:35 | |
and it's not considered serious enough in a poet to make us laugh. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
But this just makes me laugh so much. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
He must have written this for Joyce Grenfell. It's called Hunter Trials. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
Just listen to some of these verses. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
"It's awfully bad luck on Diana, her ponies have swallowed their bits. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:53 | |
"She fished down their throats with a spanner, and frightened them all into fits. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
"Just look at Prunella on Guzzle, the wizardest pony on earth. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:02 | |
"Why doesn't she slacken his muzzle and tighten the breech in his girth? | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
"I say, Mummy, there's Mrs Geezer, and doesn't she look pretty sick? | 0:15:06 | 0:15:11 | |
"I bet it's because Mona Lisa was hit on the hock with a brick." | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
"Mrs Blewitt says Monica threw it, but Monica says it was Joan. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
"And Joan's very thick with Miss Blewitt, so Monica's sulking alone." | 0:15:20 | 0:15:26 | |
I love the bit at the end. It says: "Oh, wasn't it naughty of Smudges? | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
"Oh, Mummy, I'm sick with disgust. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
"She threw me in front of the judges and my silly old collarbone's bust." | 0:15:32 | 0:15:37 | |
It's got to be Joyce Grenfell. You can hear her saying it! | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
This is a bit at my expense, but we've just been having some lunch, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
and the crew and David, the producer, have just come up | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
with this poem that they think Sir John might have penned himself. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
As you see, it's very much at my expense. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
"And pasty-munching tourists come to gaze at Stein's emporium. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
"With noses pressed to menu board, they work out what they might afford. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:14 | |
"Hey, Dad, what's salt and pepper squid? | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
"Forget it, son, it's 40 quid!" | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
I'm not amused. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
Like Sir John, I value these cliff walks. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
They are a good way to clear the head. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
It was the same walk to Tregardock that inspired Sir John to write a very dark poem indeed. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:37 | |
A literary critic had slated his latest volume of poetry. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
Well, I know what it feels like when some TV critic | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
has a go at me and my dog. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
It really cuts you to the quick. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
They called Betjeman a lightweight versifier | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
who kept to traditional verse forms and rhyming schemes - | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
the very things we now cherish and celebrate. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
Scenery like this can often lift the spirits but equally can have an adverse effect. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:06 | |
So he came here to Tregardock. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
It was a drizzly, foggy day which reflected his mood. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
He wrote, "Only the shore and cliffs are clear, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
"gigantic, slithering shelves of slate | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
"in waiting awfulness appear like journalism full of hate." | 0:17:19 | 0:17:24 | |
I think it reflects how depressed he was by these critics | 0:17:24 | 0:17:29 | |
and he wanted to be a popular poet. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
There is nothing wrong with that. He was completely smashed by that. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
He was almost suicidal. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
The poem ends, "And I on my volcano edge exposed to ridicule and hate | 0:17:38 | 0:17:45 | |
"still do not dare to leap the ledge and smash to pieces on the slate." | 0:17:45 | 0:17:50 | |
But wounds heal and brighter moods roll in like the flooding tide. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:55 | |
And all the time the waves, the waves, the waves. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
Chase, intersect and flatten on the sand | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
as they have done for centuries, as they will for centuries to come | 0:18:02 | 0:18:07 | |
when not a soul is left to picnic on the blazing rocks and seaside is forgotten. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:14 | |
Still the tides, consolingly disastrous, will return | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
while the strange starfish, hugely magnified, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:24 | |
waits in the jewelled basin of a pool. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
Just as the dramatic scenery along this coast inspired some of Betjeman's greatest verse, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:36 | |
it's also been responsible for my ongoing love of the sea | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
and a desire to make the most of what comes out of it. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
OK, Chalks, let's try over here now. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
Like John Betjeman, I've been messing around in rock pools all my life. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:51 | |
Every one is a potential treasure trove, and of course, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
when you have a seafood restaurant it comes in very handy too - | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
especially when the spider crabs are in season. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
Look at that. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
Look at that beauty. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
They are good when cooked the Basque way | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
with peppers and breadcrumbs and baked in the oven - sweet as a nut. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:13 | |
But in Sir John's day, nobody ate spider crabs. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
They were regarded by the fishermen as a blinkin' nuisance and thrown over the side! | 0:19:16 | 0:19:21 | |
One person who remembers those times on the beach long ago is Sue Harbor, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:28 | |
the daughter of one of his best friends. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
He grew up with Dad on the beach, hence the crab hooks, prawning net, | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
and the seaside poems and north Cornwall recollections. Everything. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:40 | |
They just grew up... It was a slightly informal | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
but very loving group, and that is why he writes about it with such fond memories. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:51 | |
Waves full of treasure then were roaring up the beach, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
ropes round our mackintoshes, waders warm and dry, | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
we waited for the wreckage to come swirling into reach, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
Ralph, Vasey, Alastair, Biddy, John and I. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
The poem, Trebetherick, is one where he refers to his closest friends | 0:20:05 | 0:20:10 | |
which includes Sue's father, so it has a particular resonance for her. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:15 | |
That's her dad - the little boy at the end. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
Blessed be St Enodoc, blessed be the wave... | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
I read it at my mother's funeral recently. She and my father were dear friends of John's for ever. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:28 | |
And reading that last verse, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
"Give to our children the happy times that you gave to Ralph, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
"Vasey, Alastair, Biddy, John and me," | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
really makes you choke because we've had beautiful times. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
We've done the same things with the crabbing, the prawning, looking for cowries. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
It's just handed down from generation to generation. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:49 | |
Do you think people still look for cowries, and blue and green glass? | 0:20:49 | 0:20:54 | |
Oh, you know about the blue glass. I was going to tell you about that! | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
And it's extraordinary how long one would spend on the beach | 0:20:58 | 0:21:03 | |
and the hoorahs, and how clever you were | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
if you found this tiny speck. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
I imagine it was milk of magnesia... | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
Bottles. Bottles. But sometimes it was those glass buoys. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
There were blue ones but they were very rare. They were magic on the tide line. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
That was gold-dust going along there and finding one, and you really were a hero for a week. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:25 | |
Now, all you get is plastic which John hated. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
As long as I can remember, I have come down on to one beach | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
to look for cowries, which are very small shells. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:39 | |
And I know just where to find them on the tide line. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:44 | |
The shells themselves are coloured pale pink. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
The large shells we hardly notice at all. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
We weren't interested in them. Always looking for the small ones. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
And some of the larger cowries that you find have got freckles on them, | 0:21:55 | 0:22:02 | |
just like the nose of a tennis girl. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
What was he like? He was so different from anything I'd ever met. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
I think I was really conscious of him, in person, when I was 10. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
He came to stay with us when we were in Bath. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
I grew up in a very | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
well-organised, disciplined, naval family, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
and everything was on time, and everything. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
John appeared and he burst out of his bedroom before | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
he went to change and said, "Sheila, I've forgotten the bottom of my pyjamas!" | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
That was the first thing. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
Then he had just got an electric razor, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
he bought the razor and not the plug! | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
He always had his trousers done up with the tie. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
He never had a belt. Why? | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
I don't know. He was obviously eccentric in those days. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
He was gorgeous. He had the best chuckle I've ever heard in anybody. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:57 | |
When he had a mild stroke in London we went to see him. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
You know when you take people a gift, and we didn't know what to take him | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
because we didn't know how bad the stroke was. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
Do you know what we took him? A bag of beach. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
We filled a polythene bag of Daymer Bay sand, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
and we put it on the bed and his hand came out | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
and he knew what his bag of beach was. I bet he did. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
Blessed be St Enodoc, blessed be the wave. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
Blessed be the springy turf, we pray, pray to thee, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
ask for our children all the happy days you gave | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
to Ralph, Vasey, Alistair, Biddy, John and me. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
By the end of this programme, I would like to think | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
I know enough about Sir John to produce the sort of celebratory centenary meal he loved to eat. | 0:23:53 | 0:24:00 | |
I am pretty certain he'd like oysters. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
I certainly know he's got a penchant for champagne. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:08 | |
I've heard he likes Dover sole cooked very simply, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
it's called sole bon femme, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
which means baked in the oven in the style of the good wife of the house. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:19 | |
I don't know whether that is quite upmarket enough | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
for this dinner for all his friends. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
But on the other hand, if I make it too upmarket, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
it will be too elaborate | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
and it won't reflect the simplicity of his poetry. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
It is difficult but I think probably Dover sole, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
turbot or lobster has got to feature in it, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
and certainly nothing like a jus. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
I just imagine what he would think of that word. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
Or indeed a pyramid of | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
elaborate food on a plate. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
It doesn't get more Cornish - splits and jam and clotted cream. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
Splits - they are not scones. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
They're the crowning glory of the Cornish cream tea - especially for those in the know. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:06 | |
And, of course, the tea, Lapsang Souchong, Earl Grey - nah. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:12 | |
I'd like to think that JB was a plain Typhoo man. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
Sweet were the afternoons of treasure hunts | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
And in the Oakleys' garden after tea, of splits and cream, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:25 | |
Under old apple boughs with high tide offering prospects of a bathe, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:30 | |
the winners had their prizes. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
90-year-old Molly Farmer is one of JB's oldest living friends. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:38 | |
She remembers those sunny days at Trebetherick. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
I do remember my aunts were not very happy about the whole thing, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:46 | |
because John was making people come to Trebetherick | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
and my aunts didn't really like all these people coming. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:55 | |
What? His friends or... | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
No, these were tourists. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
Oh, I see. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
Oh, yes. That really was the beginning of | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
John's poetry. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
He wrote about Trebetherick and all these different places, Polzeath and Padstow. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:18 | |
And that is what bought the people down. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
Good Lord, it's like me with my restaurants. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
I was going to say that. Two of a kind, really. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
But, with John, I would think he wouldn't even think of that. Course not. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:34 | |
I don't know anything so exciting as getting a perfect surf. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:41 | |
Timing one's shoot-off | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
from the waves. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
Riding along on the crest | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
and coming far inshore. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
By Jove! That bald-headed fellow - it's me! | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
He used to come and have picnics with us on the beach. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
He said the only time he got a good meal was when I came down | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
and we would sit on the beach and he would come down in his raincoat, done up with string, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:18 | |
because he wouldn't sew the buttons on. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
He made himself look like an old man | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
and my youngest son once came up to me and said, "Is he so poor he can't put the buttons on?" | 0:27:24 | 0:27:32 | |
"Can't you put them on?" | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
I said, "No, the point of him being like that is so people don't come up and ask for his autograph." | 0:27:34 | 0:27:40 | |
Even when he was surfing at Polzeath, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:45 | |
people would wade into the water to get his autograph! | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
I know. I am that soldier. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
Do you have that too? Yeah. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
The old harbour at Padstow had walls of slate and the slippery quay, | 0:27:56 | 0:28:01 | |
made of upended slates, felt warm and smooth to feet that were bare. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:06 | |
And then the streets of Padstow closed around us. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:11 | |
That old house on the quay I always thought must once have been a monastery. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:17 | |
The narrow streets of the fishing town were emptier then, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
but they are still very much the same. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
Though the shops were more resorted to in our day for useful things, | 0:28:32 | 0:28:37 | |
for oil-lit houses, rather than for the souvenirs which fill them today. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:43 | |
The popularity of Padstow lies within itself. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
It doesn't need John Betjeman or me, for that matter, to sing its praises. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:53 | |
I was quite surprised to hear John Betjeman had got it in the neck | 0:28:55 | 0:28:59 | |
from his Cornish friends and associates that he was popularising the place too much. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:04 | |
I was also delighted because I had a feeling of affinity with him. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:10 | |
The more I get to know about John Betjeman, the more I feel close to him, | 0:29:10 | 0:29:15 | |
because people keep going on about "Padstein", | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
because I've got a few modest businesses here. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:22 | |
I find it quite embarrassing. I think the same thing's happened. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:27 | |
All that John Betjeman did was to talk about a place he loved and that is exactly what I've done. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:34 | |
I feel a bit confounded by people that say, "Oh, you made the place too popular." | 0:29:34 | 0:29:39 | |
You think, what should I do? | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
Just say, it's a terrible place, don't come here?! | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
Much as I'd have you believe that every day's sunny in Cornwall, of course, it's not. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
It's often like this, where there's an awful lot of people on holiday | 0:29:54 | 0:29:59 | |
rather bored with not a lot to do. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
And, as ever, John Betjeman summed it up perfectly. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:06 | |
All put your macs on, run for shelter fast. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
Crouch where you like until it's fine again. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
Holiday cheerfulness is unsurpassed. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:18 | |
Why be put out by healthy English rain? | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
Are we downhearted? | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
No! We're happy still. We came here to enjoy ourselves, and we will. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:31 | |
"Our lodging house, 10 minutes from the shore, still unprepared to make a picnic lunch, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:37 | |
except by notice on the previous day." It's still the same. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:41 | |
"And still on the bedroom wall, the list of rules. Don't waste the water. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:46 | |
"It is pumped by hand. Don't throw old blades into the WC. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:51 | |
"Don't keep the bathroom long. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
"And don't be late for meals. And don't hang swimsuits on the sills. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:58 | |
"A line has been provided at the back. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
"Don't empty children's sandshoes in the hall. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
"Don't this, don't that." | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
"Ah, still the same, the same as it was last year and the year before. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:12 | |
"But rather more expensive now, of course." | 0:31:12 | 0:31:17 | |
Queues for the cafes, and the seafront's bleak. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
Go to the pictures then. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
I'm not complaining, but didn't I see that film the other week? | 0:31:23 | 0:31:28 | |
As for our lodgings, we're in quite a fix. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
They never want us back till after six. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
What people really came to Cornwall for was picturesque villages. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:46 | |
Cornwall became an artists' paradise. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
And the amateur photographers' as well. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
The shrewd Cornish - independent, proud - cash in on the foreigners, | 0:31:55 | 0:32:01 | |
and small blame to them. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
Plenty of car parks on the way to the quay | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
and plenty of gift shops on the way to the car parks. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
It's economics, see. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
Even in JB's time, holidaymakers would wander the harbour | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
eating something that predates the pizza and the hamburger. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
I suppose you could call this the culinary symbol of Cornwall - a Cornish pasty. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:26 | |
Always should be eaten out of a paper bag. Never with a knife and fork on a plate. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:32 | |
And I think Sir John would agree with me on that one. Very non-U. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
Other interesting thing about the Cornish pasty is that over here in Padstow, it's pasty. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:42 | |
Over there, with the more well-to-do types in Rock, it's par-sty. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:46 | |
It's amazing what a bit of water can do. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
Pasty here, par-sty there. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
For five months of the year, Padstow is as packed as its rubbish bins. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
JB yearned for the days of sanity to return. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:06 | |
I'm glad it's quiet again and I'm on foot. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
You know that sort of holy hush there is in the land on Christmas morning, the roads fairly empty, | 0:33:13 | 0:33:20 | |
the sky almost free of aeroplanes, and you begin to hear and see and smell once more? | 0:33:20 | 0:33:28 | |
The seaside can be like this if you find an unspoilt stretch of it. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:34 | |
We don't all want to be organised but, if we aren't, we seem to sprawl everywhere. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:41 | |
Where yonder villa hogs the sea was open cliff to you and me. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:46 | |
The many-coloured caras fill the salty marsh to Shiller Mill | 0:33:46 | 0:33:51 | |
and, foreground to the hanging wood, are toilets where the cattle stood. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:57 | |
Now, as we near the ocean roar, a smell of deep fry haunts the shore. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:02 | |
In pools beyond the reach of tide, the Senior Service packets glide. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:09 | |
And, on the sand, the surf line lists with wrappings of potato crisps. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:16 | |
The breakers bring, with merry noise, | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
tribute of broken plastic toys | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
and lichen spears of blackthorn glitter with harvest of the August litter. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:28 | |
The next bit is, like, easily his most controversial poem, Come Friendly Bombs And Fall On Slough. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:36 | |
JB was not a fan of caravan sites. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
Perhaps, one day, a wave will break, before the breakfasters awake, and sweep the caras out to sea, | 0:34:39 | 0:34:48 | |
the oil, the tar and you and me, and leave, in windy crisscross motion, a waste of undulating ocean. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:57 | |
Out there, it's solitude. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
They can't build on the sea. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
Jonathan Stedall is a documentary film maker who made many remarkable programmes with Sir John, | 0:35:10 | 0:35:16 | |
including a film adaptation of his verse autobiography, Summoned By Bells, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:22 | |
and the intimate Time With Betjeman, the last film he did before he died in 1984. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:28 | |
What started as a stimulating working relationship developed into a strong friendship. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:35 | |
What happened here? | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
This was one of the last sequences I filmed with him. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
It was about two years before he died and he was in a wheelchair by then, so I was pushing him. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:46 | |
And we came here | 0:35:46 | 0:35:48 | |
and we were talking about various things. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
It was quite a deep conversation. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
He was talking about eternity | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
and I was probing in that kind of area. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
And then I saw a sort of little glisten in his eye and he clearly wanted to change the subject. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:05 | |
He had a tendency, when things were getting too earnest, to want to lighten things. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
And I said to him, "Do you have any regrets in your life?" | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
That was when he made this famous remark. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
John, have you got any regrets about your life at all? Yes. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:24 | |
What you've done or haven't done? Yes. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:26 | |
I haven't had enough sex. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:28 | |
That, I suppose, I'm not allowed to say. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
And that's the remark that people remember almost best from the whole series. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
There's a wonderful line in Summoned By Bells. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
He's talking about himself. "An only child, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
deliciously apart, misunderstood and not like other boys." | 0:36:45 | 0:36:50 | |
Fantastic. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
I think that "deliciously apart" is a wonderful phrase because, actually, he's not really moaning. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:59 | |
There's a side in him that's relishing this being an outsider. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
Crikey, I've trod on your dog! | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
I'm sorry. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:07 | |
I'm afraid Betjeman wasn't too fond of dogs. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
He had an expression for them. He called them "turd droppers". | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
Oh, that's a shame. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
He loved the whole process of filming, you see. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
He liked being in a team. He was interested in people, interested in the crew. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
He loved the jargon. Did he? | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
Well, all the funny expressions. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
What, like "fly in the gate"? | 0:37:28 | 0:37:29 | |
Hair in the gate. Oh, God! I always think it's fly. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
I don't know why. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
And the names for the lights. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
You know, they're called brutes and red heads and blondies. Oh, he would have loved that. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:41 | |
And then there's a thing that can happen in the cutting room | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
when the camera and the sound get out of sync - | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
"creeping sync". And he loved the expression. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
He didn't understand what creeping sync was. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
It sounds like some horrible disease. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
No, he was lovely to work with. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
He was interested in everybody. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
I think that was the key to it, really. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
Of course, there are some people who felt that he should have... | 0:38:06 | 0:38:11 | |
By doing so much television, that his poetry suffered | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
and that he should have just concentrated on poetry. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
You know, I think that he brought a kind of poetry, in the wider sense, | 0:38:18 | 0:38:24 | |
to many, many more people by doing what he did. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
His films are like poems. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
Some he actually wrote the commentary in verse. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
But even if he didn't, | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
there is a sort of poetry in the work that he did. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
Then, before breakfast, down towards the sea I ran alone, monarch of miles of sand. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:47 | |
Its shining stretches satin smooth and veined. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:52 | |
I felt beneath bare feet the lugworm casts and walked where only gulls | 0:38:52 | 0:38:58 | |
and oystercatchers had stepped before me to the water's edge. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:03 | |
Well, it's time to put all I've learnt about the great man to the test | 0:39:10 | 0:39:14 | |
and cook a meal that he would have approved of. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
And why not fish pie? | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
For one thing, it's simple fare but it's not simply won. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
I thought it fitting that I'd use local fish from trawlers | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
that JB might have walked by as they tied up in the harbour. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
I searched and searched but Betjeman didn't write a poem about fishing in Cornwall. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:40 | |
Pity, really. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
So what I'm using, in this rather special, luxury version of the fish pie, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:48 | |
is lightly smoked Cornish haddock and fresh cod. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
I'm going to poach them in milk and Cornish cream, | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
flavoured with onions studded with cloves and bay leaves. | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
I've only allowed about 10 minutes for that simmering because the fish has to be only just cooked. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:07 | |
Just enough so it flakes away from the skin and bones easily. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:12 | |
While that's cooling, I'm going to make the classic Bechamel sauce with butter - | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
one of the first things I was taught to cook. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
Loads of butter, plain flour, stirred and cooked out to make a classic roux. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:24 | |
Then I add the poaching liquor. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
I was thinking about Bechamel sauces and veloutes. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
I love making them. I love stirring like this to get rid of those lumps. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:37 | |
I've made veloutes ever since I was 18 in large kitchens in big quantities. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:44 | |
So making a fish pie like this for eight to 10 people is right up my street. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:51 | |
You just have to add the milk and cream in a few batches otherwise it separates. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:56 | |
And you have to keep stirring to keep those lumps out the way. | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
Next I season the sauce with grated nutmeg, black pepper and flakes of sea salt. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:07 | |
Now I did say right at the start that this is a luxury fish pie and not the school-dinner version. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:13 | |
Lobster for this special occasion. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
It has to be firm, sweet chunks of freshly cooked Cornish lobster. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:20 | |
Look at that. This is my idea of luxury. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
This is real seaside holiday food. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
Now for the assembly. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
JB wrote a poem about food as experienced by a town clerk. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:33 | |
He says, "I can safely say a beautiful England's on the way. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
"Already our hotels are pretty good. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
"For those who are fond of very simple food. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
"Well, cod and two veg, free pepper, salt and mustard, | 0:41:43 | 0:41:47 | |
followed by nice hard plums and lumpy custard." | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
Well, lumpy custard this is not. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
It's creamy mashed spuds enriched | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
with the yolks of free-range eggs and hard-boiled eggs to go into the pie. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
A fish pie, in my view, isn't right without the addition of hard-boiled eggs. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:06 | |
Now put the mashed potatoes on top and then, using the tines of a fork, plough a pattern. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:13 | |
It's ready for the oven. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
Medium to high for 35 minutes until it's golden brown. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:21 | |
I think it's the sort of thing that | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
JB would like. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
It's wholesome, British, but I'm just gonna try a bit to make sure | 0:42:26 | 0:42:33 | |
those real lovers of everything to do with Betjeman are gonna eat it. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
It's a little bit hot. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
That's very nice. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
I'm sorry to praise my own food but I was just thinking, | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
I know Sir John was talking about St Enodoc golf course | 0:42:48 | 0:42:52 | |
and Daymer Bay and the estuary beyond, when he said, | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
"Splendour, splendour everywhere". | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
But this is my splendour, splendour everywhere. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:01 | |
Here we go. Isn't that wonderful. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
This is where I drop the pie. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
It wouldn't be the first time. I think we should clap. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:11 | |
This is the main course. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:12 | |
I started with a fruits de mer of Cornish shellfish - | 0:43:12 | 0:43:16 | |
langoustines, brown crab, razor clams, mussels and oysters. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:21 | |
And the guest of honour was Candida Lycett Green, John Betjeman's daughter. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:25 | |
In fact, it was her idea for us to have this lunch in the first place. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:29 | |
Now what do you serve with a fish pie? | 0:43:29 | 0:43:33 | |
In my book, you have to have peas and nothing wrong with frozen either. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:38 | |
I think he would have approved because he loved the ordinary. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:41 | |
He saw the world a different way. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:44 | |
We were very lucky, he came and gave the speech at our wedding. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:48 | |
We were all expecting great things from this poet. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
We hadn't arranged for a platform so we gave him an old garden bench, which unfortunately was too old, | 0:43:51 | 0:43:57 | |
and he stood up and we all waiting with bated breath and he said, | 0:43:57 | 0:44:01 | |
"To the handsome Christopher and the beautiful Susan", | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
and disappeared down through the slats of the garden bench. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:08 | |
He'd had a little bit too much to drink. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:10 | |
Luckily, he was retrieved by the stewards at the naval establishment and went his way. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:15 | |
I'm afraid that was his speech. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:16 | |
Cliff, I just got a feeling he lit up your life really. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:21 | |
Absolutely. I've been privileged to read his poems for 20 years to the public on Bray Hill. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:28 | |
I just love that wonderful cast of characters. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:33 | |
There's a whole era captured in the poetry - the '30s and '40s. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:38 | |
It's all there, wonderful stuff. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:40 | |
The only first line I can think of immediately is | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
How To Get On In Society - "Phone for the fish knives, Norman, | 0:44:42 | 0:44:46 | |
"as Cook is a little unnerved. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:48 | |
"You kiddies have crumpled the serviettes | 0:44:48 | 0:44:50 | |
"And I must have things daintily served. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:53 | |
"Are the requisites all in the toilet? | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
"The rings round the cutlets can wait | 0:44:56 | 0:44:58 | |
"Till the Major's replenished the cruets | 0:44:58 | 0:45:01 | |
"And switched on the logs in the grate." | 0:45:01 | 0:45:03 | |
Isn't it wonderful stuff? | 0:45:03 | 0:45:05 | |
Why do you think people find him trite? | 0:45:05 | 0:45:09 | |
There's always this, "Oh, you like John Betjeman, do you?" | 0:45:09 | 0:45:13 | |
That's simply because it's too easy to like and modern poets are quite complicated. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:19 | |
Some of them are wonderful, but they have a different way of communicating | 0:45:19 | 0:45:25 | |
and they don't communicate to the masses, which my dad does. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:29 | |
I think that's the reason people say he's trite | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
and he's not on the school curriculum because he's not complicated. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:41 | |
I feel passionately about that. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:43 | |
I think that very profound and complicated things can be said very simply, actually. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:49 | |
He was brilliant at that in his poetry and in his life all together. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:53 | |
There was a favourite phrase of John's which comes to mind after this lovely meal. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:59 | |
He used to say, "Nothing succeeds like excess". | 0:45:59 | 0:46:03 | |
On a wild, wet May afternoon in 1984 a group of pallbearers, | 0:46:09 | 0:46:14 | |
including his friend Jonathan Stedall | 0:46:14 | 0:46:17 | |
slowly carried JB to his final resting place in St Enodoc graveyard. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:22 | |
He would join those who'd helped make his summers so memorable | 0:46:22 | 0:46:26 | |
and were now immortalised in his verse. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
We had to walk about a quarter of a mile with the coffin. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
We were absolutely soaked. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:35 | |
Somebody said when we came into the church, we looked like wreckers. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:39 | |
Here it is. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:44 | |
Slightly floral, don't you think? | 0:46:48 | 0:46:51 | |
I think so. I think he'd have liked it. You do? | 0:46:51 | 0:46:55 | |
Yeah. He was religious, wasn't he? | 0:46:55 | 0:46:59 | |
Yes. Certainly, his religion was very important to him. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:03 | |
I think, from my experience, he was also very courageous, | 0:47:03 | 0:47:08 | |
in the sense that he was able to live with doubt. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
Yeah. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
He used to refer to what we call God as "the management". | 0:47:15 | 0:47:21 | |
He said he... | 0:47:25 | 0:47:27 | |
he hoped, rather than believed, that the management was in charge. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:31 | |
I like to think of him not as somewhere else and us here, | 0:47:31 | 0:47:35 | |
but that we're actually at one level all together. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:39 | |
That's my feeling about him. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:41 | |
I just can't help feeling, with a slight smile, | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
what do you think John Betjeman would have to say | 0:47:44 | 0:47:47 | |
when he heard the serious way we were talking? | 0:47:47 | 0:47:50 | |
I think he'd probably think it was very funny that I was being so serious about him. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:55 | |
He'd probably be thinking it's time to go home. | 0:47:56 | 0:48:01 | |
The poor crew are getting wet. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:03 | |
How nice. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:07 | |
Enough. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
It's lovely here. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:13 | |
Finished? Yes. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:20 | |
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and complain and make a thing of it? | 0:48:58 | 0:49:01 |