Afghanistan: War without End?


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Some time after sunset, a group of men gathered together in Kandahar

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to savour the moment they made history.

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Televisions had been banned in Afghanistan,

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but these men were honoured guests.

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Osama Bin Laden and his al-Qaeda faithful were there to watch

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the horror of 9/11 unfold.

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What al-Qaeda call "The Manhattan Raid".

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So the West invaded Afghanistan.

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There was a belief it could be done quickly, with a very light footprint,

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we could be in and we could be out again,

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and we ended up doing neither one thing nor the other.

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Instead 47 nations - America and Britain especially -

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have been sucked ever deeper into a quagmire.

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I used to ask myself every time I went to Afghanistan,

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"What are we doing here?"

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In the first of three programmes

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marking ten years of war in Afghanistan, I've been examining

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some of the key decisions that have shaped the conflict.

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A conflict that's cost many thousands of lives,

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including more than 370 British servicemen and women.

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With the right attention, the right strategy and the right resources,

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the war would be over and most of our boys would be home,

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but we didn't do it.

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It's important to give people a clear idea

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that there is an end to this.

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So will the death of Osama Bin Laden, who started the Afghan war,

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bring us any closer to an end?

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Two years before 9/11, Afghanistan's UN envoy arrived in New York.

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There he handed in his resignation.

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I went to the Security Council and said,

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"Look, I have done everything I know

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"and it has got us nowhere.

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"I haven't got anywhere, because you are not supporting me,

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"you are not interested in Afghanistan.

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"But you are wrong."

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Afghanistan had become a pariah state.

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The Taliban government had allowed al-Qaeda

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to establish its base there.

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From where Osama bin Laden declared a holy war on Jews and Christians.

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The Taliban shared with al-Qaeda its medieval version of Islam.

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The United Nations had been trying to persuade the Taliban

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to kick out al-Qaeda.

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Their envoy had a rare meeting with the Taliban leader, Mullah Omar,

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a veteran of the war against the Russian invaders of the 1980s.

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Very shy man, you know he had lost an eye and he was,

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he was very much aware of that.

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So he kept, you know, always playing with his hand like this.

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Very, very soft spoken.

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I told him, look, this group have an agenda that has nothing to do

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with Afghanistan, and that will create a lot of problems for you.

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He said, "Osama bin Laden, he's our guest."

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In Afghanistan, Bin Laden was more than a guest.

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As a wealthy Saudi, he helped bankroll the Taliban regime.

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Mullah Omar refused to disown his friend and benefactor.

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Lakhdar Brahimi's mission had failed.

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He warned the Security Council that by ignoring Afghanistan,

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they were storing up trouble.

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You are wrong to think that, you know, this is a small country,

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far away country, that what happens there is irrelevant.

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It will blow in our faces.

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Holy shit!

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The impact of 9/11 cannot be understated.

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It was the deadliest attack

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against America in its history.

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With nearly 3,000 dead,

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it was inevitable that America would strike back.

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The people who knocked these buildings down

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will hear all of us soon.

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Prompting America to invade Afghanistan

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was exactly what Osama bin Laden was hoping for on September 11th.

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His son has told us,

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in retrospect, my father's dream

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was to get America to invade Afghanistan.

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To me, it's just common sense,

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obviously you just got to go get the guy.

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America gave the Taliban every chance to avoid war.

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All they had to do was hand over Bin Laden.

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If Bin Laden's the guy we want,

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send the assassination team out and get him.

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There was a serious effort to persuade the Taliban

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you do not want to go down with al-Qaeda.

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If you'll hand these guys over,

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our war isn't with you.

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The Taliban response was that their ancient hospitality code

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trumped all other considerations.

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It was a no, that we're not going to separate ourselves

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from traditional hospitality, welcoming of guests.

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It's hard for us to understand that when you're dealing

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with a man like Osama Bin Laden.

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It happens, it happens like that.

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Yes. The life of the guest is protected by the lives of the hosts.

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Nearly four weeks after 9/11 America's patience ran out.

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The President told his generals to unleash "Holy Hell".

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On my orders, the United States military has begun strikes against

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al-Qaeda terrorist training camps

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and military installations of the Taliban regime in Afghanistan.

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America was determined not to get bogged down in Afghanistan.

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So there was no large ground invasion, no heavy armour.

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Instead, America relied on CIA operatives, precision, speed,

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just 1,800 troops, and buying up Afghan militias.

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Its plan was "war-lite".

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We sent in 20 or 30 CIA officers with several million dollars

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in walking-around money

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and bought the Northern Alliance over to our side.

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The Northern Alliance was a coalition of warlords

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which had once ruled much of Afghanistan.

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They were a rag tag militia

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now aligned to the world's most sophisticated fighting force.

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In the 1990s, the Northern Alliance had lost to the Taliban

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in a civil war costing tens of thousands of lives.

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The tables were now turning.

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On 13th November 2001, just five weeks after the invasion,

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the Northern Alliance captured the capital Kabul.

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It looked like the war was over.

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That's not what Osama bin Laden thought was going to happen,

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he thought it would be a long, protracted, guerrilla struggle.

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He was surprised.

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The celebrations in Kabul

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concealed a mass of underlying tribal and sectarian tensions.

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The Northern Alliance represented ethnic groups in the North.

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The Taliban were drawn from the majority Pashtun of the South.

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To avoid another inter-ethnic civil war, Afghanistan

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needed a leader acceptable to both.

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That leader was a Pashtun who teamed up with US Special Forces

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at a secret air base near the Pakistan border.

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His name was Hamid Karzai.

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In 2001 my mission was to link up with Hamid Karzai.

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I liked him immediately.

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I can't say I've worked with many Afghan warlords before,

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so maybe they're all equally personable.

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But Karzai was a very modest man. Very polite.

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Captain Amerine's mission was to help Karzai

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raise an army against the Taliban.

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The Taliban had retreated south

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and were regrouping for a last stand in their spiritual home in Kandahar.

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During a chaotic day of fighting, Karzai and Amerine learnt

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that hundreds of Taliban fighters were closing in on them.

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Basically as all hell was breaking loose and we were waiting

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for the Taliban to overrun our location and kill everybody,

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Karzai was standing out there in the street calmly directing people

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and trying to gather up guerrillas to fight with us.

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He was definitely cool under pressure.

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We received a phone call late at night.

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Everybody was asleep except me and Karzai.

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After he hung up, it was like, you know, "Who was that?"

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And he says to me, "Oh, that was an intermediary for Mullah Omar."

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And I kind of did a double take.

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I'm like, "What did Mullah Omar want?"

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The Taliban leader wanted to explore the terms of a surrender.

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Provided the Taliban returned peacefully to their homes,

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the war would be over.

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At least, that's what the Taliban say Hamid Karzai promised Mullah Omar.

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He promised to him that this is your country, to live in

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your country peacefully with all your natural rights and the human rights.

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But they were not allowed to live peacefully in this country.

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Washington rejected a deal with the Taliban.

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Their Afghan mission was "Kill or Capture"

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and they made no distinction between the Taliban and al-Qaeda.

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Get your BLEEPing head down.

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-Do you think that was a mistake?

-I do.

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Certainly below the level of Mullah Omar,

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to have considered a political approach

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which would have offered the Taliban

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possibilities for them to participate in the political process,

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provided that they would cut their ties with international terrorism.

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I think history will judge that as a missed opportunity.

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Because Washington wanted to get in and out of Afghanistan swiftly,

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there were few US troops to chase the fleeing al-Qaeda and Taliban leaders.

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The hunt for Osama bin Laden took special forces

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to a network of caves close to the Pakistan border.

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This top hill.

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Very top up there. That's supposedly where Bin Laden's hanging out.

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The Americans had deployed less than 100 troops

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with which to seal all routes out of these vast mountains.

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Bin Laden slipped away, as did the Taliban leaders.

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We took our eye off the ball

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and gave Osama bin Laden, Mullah Omar a remarkable second chance.

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And in one of the most brilliant military comebacks of modern times,

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the Taliban went from the ashes of defeat

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to being on the outskirts of Kabul in a matter of less than a decade.

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Any hope that the Afghan war would be brief

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vanished when Bin Laden and Mullah Omar slipped across the border

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into Pakistan's Pashtun tribal lands.

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Greeting the fugitives were not only friends and family,

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but also elements of Pakistan's military intelligence

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sympathetic to al-Qaeda and who'd also helped the Taliban

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win the Afghan civil war in the 1990s.

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They wanted a government in Kabul

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that was under their influence and control.

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And which was not under the influence of India.

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They'd given them their first batch of serious weaponry,

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ammunition, money.

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There were Pakistani military officers

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who were working and serving with the Taliban.

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After 9/11, Pakistan's President, Pervez Musharraf,

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bowed to American pressure

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and promised to cut his government's ties to the Taliban.

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The Bush administration was ecstatic

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when Musharraf agreed to switch sides, after September 11th.

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President Bush is a man who believes very strongly

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in personal relationships

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and he believed that he and General Musharraf

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had developed a strong bond between them.

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Many al-Qaeda members were arrested.

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Not so the Taliban high command.

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Mullah Omar and his fellow fugitive leaders

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were reported to be living openly in the border city of Quetta.

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Right on the outskirts of Quetta

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there is the biggest refugee camp, about 100,000 people.

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Now, this is the centre of everything

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-and control...

-The centre of the Taliban?

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-Yes, centre of any terrorist coming and going.

-Any jihadi group?

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Yeah, anyone could come there and go.

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Can you differentiate between a Taliban or a refugee?

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No, sir, you cannot.

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They have the same beards, carrying weapons, so it's the same people.

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In Kabul, the Afghan Intelligence Service did not accept

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there was an innocent explanation to Mullah Omar's presence.

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From the outset, there was deep distrust of Pakistan's motives.

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The Taliban leadership were hibernating in Pakistan.

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They were not defeated or killed.

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The Americans received verbal assurances from President Musharraf

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that Pakistan will cooperate.

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But they kept the Taliban intact. I mean the leadership of the Taliban.

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I learnt over time in dealing with President Musharraf

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that he would literally tell me truth.

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I had an occasion where I asked him to dismantle a certain terrorist camp

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that was directed towards Kashmir.

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And after we wrangled a bit about it, he agreed.

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And he did? He dismantled it?

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He did dismantle it.

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However, he "re-mantled" it a couple of kilometres away.

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Now, when I went back to him,

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I said "Now, this time, I need you to dismantle this terrorist camp.

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"So let's say you have 12 in total, tomorrow there'll be 11 and every day after this there'll be 11."

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"OK, I agree". And he did it.

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Terrorists who once occupied Afghanistan

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now occupy cells in Guantanamo Bay.

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Four months after 9/11, there was a feeling in Washington

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of mission accomplished.

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Liberated from the austerity of the Taliban regime,

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Afghans celebrated the birth of new freedoms.

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A free press, a role for women

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and eventually the first democratically elected head of state.

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But the Americans made it clear from the start

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that they weren't there to rebuild Afghanistan.

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That was a job for Hamid Karzai's new government.

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The US insisted that public safety

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in Afghanistan should be a responsibility for the Afghans,

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despite the fact

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that at this point the country had no army and no police force.

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The US Defence Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld,

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said it would be a fool's errand

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to get more involved in a tribal society as complex as Afghanistan.

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Rumsfeld said US forces would use their influence to prevent outright fighting,

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but that nobody would do peacekeeping or public security outside of Kabul.

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Wouldn't get that in Colchester, would you?

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Britain led the first group

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of international forces to assist with the security of Kabul.

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That left 80% of the country - more than twice the size of the UK - unsecured.

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Who did Secretary Rumsfeld think then was going to keep

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law and order if it wasn't going to be a stabilisation force?

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-My view is, he did not care.

-How did he imagine

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that stability was going to arise out of a....

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I don't think, I don't think he cared about stability. He was intent, give him his credit,

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on dismantling and destroying Al-Qaeda.

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I don't think he was intent at all on what the Afghan of the future,

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the Afghanistan of the future would look like.

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It was right not to put ourselves in the business of trying to govern

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a foreign country for which we had neither the cultural

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nor the linguistic capacity to do it

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and which would have dragged us into Afghan quarrels,

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and pretty soon we would be the problem, not as an occupying power, but it's beyond our competence.

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On the other hand, I think we should have done more to build up

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-the Afghan capability to provide for their own security.

-Security forces.

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If there's one thing I would wish we had done, it was to use the time when things were relatively quiet.

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Karzai had no militia of his own.

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His interim government brokered by the UN included warlords -

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the same people whose violence and corruption

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had given rise to the Taliban.

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While they occupied cabinet seats in Kabul,

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their militias filled the power vacuum outside.

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People forget that he didn't create this administration, we did. The international community,

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including the United Nations,

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including myself, we formed this government.

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We told him "please come to Kabul and lead this group".

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We allied ourselves with former warlords.

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Our objective was to destroy Al-Qaeda.

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And we very much then created and empowered

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a group of political actors not accountable and also people who,

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as they grew in power, actually caused more instability.

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In all this, the Taliban, who just months earlier had been

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the government of Afghanistan, seemed to have just vanished.

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I was one of the people who was saying "look, where are the Taliban?

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"They're, you know, these people controlled 90% of the country a few weeks ago."

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-And what was the response?

-The response was

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"they've been defeated, it's gone, finished, they'll never come back."

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Within six months of the invasion, Britain and America began to avert

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their gaze from Afghanistan, pre-occupied by another matter.

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Preparations for the war in Iraq.

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The biggest single mistake? Just one?

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Probably Iraq.

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We didn't know then, you know, the most important player in Afghanistan,

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the Americans, was absent-minded from day one,

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was looking somewhere else.

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The world was now focused almost exclusively on Iraq, while Taliban

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gunmen started to cross the porous border into southern Afghanistan.

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It was March 2003, just 18 months after the invasion.

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The Taliban were back.

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The Taliban went into Kandahar

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and they were looking for targets and there were very few targets,

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there were just Afghans living there, there were no foreign troops.

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There were a few Afghan government representatives who really weren't

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worth killing as far as the Taliban were concerned in those early days.

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So the Taliban just went further and further

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into Afghanistan, looking for targets.

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'The UN in Afghanistan has ordered staff not to travel by road

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'in the area where an international Red Cross worker was murdered last Thursday.'

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'He was ordered out of his car by a group of armed men and then shot.'

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You had American generals sending off cables, saying,

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you know, "something is happening", and sending cables even to Rumsfeld.

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And I think Rumsfeld ignored them.

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The White House ignored them.

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We clearly have moved from major combat activity to a period

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of stability and stabilisation and reconstruction and...activities.

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It was the forgotten war of 2002 to 2005.

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The Taliban were reorganising. They were licking their wounds

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and figuring out what to do next.

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There wasn't a heavy British or coalition loss, and the country seemed to be relatively stable.

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It wasn't a war on the front pages.

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Yet the Afghan war was far from over.

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In fact, it was about to reignite.

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By 2005, NATO was in control and did what Washington had so opposed at the start.

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They increased troop numbers and inched towards nation-building.

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NATO wanted to extend the authority of the Afghan President, Hamid Karzai, beyond Kabul.

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Britain took on Helmand province.

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It was suggested that I go down to this place called Lashkar Gah.

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And everybody said, "it's not entirely safe, but you'll be OK."

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Boarding an old Russian helicopter, Britain's Foreign Office minister

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decided to take a look for himself at Lashkar Gah, capital of Helmand province.

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And as we came into Lashkar Gah,

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I saw down below me this Beau Geste fort.

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The commander was a guy called Colonel Hogberg.

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I said, "what's it like here?"

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And he said, "well, sir, it ain't the end of the earth, but you can see it from here!"

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He said you could be wandering into a fight between two tribes

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or sub-tribes or villages over water rights.

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You could run into a drugs convoy.

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And he pointed out to me that some of these drugs columns

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actually had anti-aircraft missiles on them.

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You could be running into Taliban,

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or just a village that didn't like strangers.

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He said "we don't hang around, because you never know who's shooting at you."

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And this really struck me at the time

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as being an observation that we ought to take a bit of notice of.

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Helmand had little infrastructure,

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few public services, no functioning security, economy or justice system.

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The Blair government's vision for Helmand, however, did not lack for ambition.

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The original vision was that Karzai would be able to create

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a growing and sustainable peace,

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and this would create a space in which governance would spread.

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And some people likened this to creating Belgium in a couple of years.

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A team of experts was dispatched to Helmand by Whitehall in late 2005.

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Their task was to plan the delivery of this vision,

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with troops providing protection and expected home in just three years.

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It was a task of biblical proportions.

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It was a medieval province,

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vast open spaces. There was no infrastructure.

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I remember flying across the province's only road.

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Corruption ran from top to bottom.

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So when one looked at all of this,

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one saw a rudderless expanse of not much,

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where the principal economy was drugs.

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Some estimates said that 80%

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of the population were illiterate, and that extended

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to many key functions in government, including the Director of Education,

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who could not read or write.

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We didn't know how many police stations there were. The chief of police wasn't sure either.

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There were sporadic outbursts of violence

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because of the drug trafficking.

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And when I asked the American officer

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what background research I should do to understand Helmand better,

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he said I should watch The Sopranos.

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On their return home for Christmas, the planners met up with their Whitehall masters.

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The planners told them their vision for Helmand was unrealistic.

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The overwhelming impression I had of that afternoon was of the clock ticking.

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The conclusion that this was not achievable in three years

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was not an acceptable conclusion.

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There was an unforgiving timeline,

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and there was no time for discussion.

0:27:280:27:31

The planners were told to get on with it.

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But they weren't the only ones asking awkward questions.

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The Foreign Office minister wrote to the Ministry of Defence.

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We're planning to go down there with 3,300 troops.

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We had 30,000 in Northern Ireland.

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Are we sure that we're going to be able to do something about this?

0:27:520:27:56

And have we got enough helicopters, have we got enough water, can we, you know, can we do all of this?

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The generals said yes, yes, and yes.

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The military momentum was unstoppable.

0:28:060:28:10

Britain was going to Helmand, come what may.

0:28:100:28:13

16 Air Assault was the brigade chosen to provide protection for the reconstruction mission.

0:28:170:28:24

They did anticipate some fighting.

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There was an awful lot of grenade launcher

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practice going on down the road.

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And there wasn't much of a queue for the development brief.

0:28:330:28:38

There were a lot of stripped down vehicles going past.

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This was, I think, every soldier's dream, Afghanistan.

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Hugely historically resonant, extraordinary country, classic soldiering.

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Perhaps, as a former soldier myself, I understand that.

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My sense was that they had come with a larger place in the plan

0:29:060:29:10

for malleting the Taliban.

0:29:100:29:12

No, I dispute that. I mean, I'd been in the military for two dozen years.

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I'd been on a lot of operations.

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I knew the consequences of the wrong use of force.

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I'd been in Afghanistan twice before.

0:29:220:29:24

The force deployed gave a maximum of only 800 fighting soldiers.

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So the reconstruction mission was limited

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to the central area of Helmand around the capital, Lashkar Gah.

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'Out on patrol in Helmand, the British troops have arrived

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'and are introducing themselves to their neighbours.'

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I'm good, fine. How are you?

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Does he understand why the British soldiers are in Lashkar Gah?

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TRANSLATOR: No, sir. He said no.

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From the moment troops arrived, Helmand's Afghan governor warned that his authority was being

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undermined by lawless gunmen in the north.

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He urged the army to deal with them.

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His argument was very much saying,

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"I need you to make sure that the flag of Afghanistan flies

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"over all of the district centres".

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Did you resist that to begin with or not?

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We did, we made it very clear that we were going to be extremely limited

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in our capability to do other operations.

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The generals in London judged that deploying north was unsustainable.

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But the Helmand Governor persevered and was supported

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by the British embassy in Kabul and the Secret Intelligence Service.

0:30:490:30:53

By late May, the generals relented.

0:30:530:30:57

The order was given to defend positions up to 70 miles from the reconstruction area.

0:30:570:31:03

By late June, the army was thinly spread across three new flashpoints

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and about to stretch to yet a fourth - the town of Sangin.

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There were no angels in Sangin.

0:31:240:31:25

There were two warring drug cartels, effectively, in Sangin.

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And here we were, about to deploy British troops

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in between those two drugs cartels.

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I did everything I possibly could to engage anyone who had decision-making authority to say "this is madness.

0:31:360:31:44

-"This cannot be happening."

-But it was.

0:31:440:31:47

The arrival of the troops stirred up a hornets' nest.

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I was furious watching that type of decision-making

0:31:520:31:56

that ended up...uprooting the entire plan that we'd devised.

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The summer of 2006 saw the British army

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engaged in some of its fiercest fighting in half a century.

0:32:070:32:12

-How does this compare to Iraq?

-Oh, it's a lot worse. That was a lot better.

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We didn't see any action in Iraq.

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Out here, every day you can guarantee small arms fire incoming.

0:32:220:32:25

Pinned down in a series of Alamos across the north of Helmand,

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British soldiers became magnets for attacks from the Taliban,

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drug gangs and locals just angry at the presence of foreigners.

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A lot of the people we were killing were effectively farmers who'd had

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-AK-47s put in their hands by the Taliban leadership.

-Part-time Talibs.

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Part-time Talibs, part-time Talibs and not very well trained ones.

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We killed huge numbers of them.

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I don't think that was to our liking at all. We were conscious

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that with everyone we killed, we were probably actually fuelling the insurgency.

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The general responsible for overseeing day to day operations

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in Helmand was Sir Peter Wall, now head of the British Army.

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The mission changed dramatically.

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-No, I don't think the mission did change.

-Really?

-No.

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Change in what way?

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Do you mean the aim changed or the mode of delivery changed?

0:33:220:33:26

Well, the original mission was a sort of

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"hearts and minds, help bring governance" mission

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for this limited area in the centre of Helmand.

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And within a matter of weeks, 16 Air Assault were fighting for their lives in a series of Alamos

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and no governance, none at all taking place.

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Had we not gone north, what would have happened, in your estimation?

0:33:410:33:46

That's not for me to say.

0:33:460:33:48

-You were in charge of operational decision.

-Yeah.

0:33:480:33:52

So what's your estimation?

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Afghan governance in Helmand would have collapsed.

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You'd have seen the Taliban breaking out, and you'd have had your Alamos in different parts of Helmand.

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Fuck me!

0:34:130:34:16

Where have you seen the Taliban? Where?

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The original mission was to win hearts and minds.

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You would accept, I guess, that if only because we needed to protect our soldiers,

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that quite a lot of Afghan hearts were lost in the process?

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Undoubtedly. Yeah, undoubtedly. I accept that.

0:34:320:34:35

This guy is ID-ing these here and saying they're Taliban.

0:34:350:34:38

Two men?

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Taliban, yeah?

0:34:430:34:44

How much of your original plan did you manage to implement?

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Not really very much!

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After the first 18 months of hard fighting,

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understanding the challenges the Taliban posed,

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our expectations changed from Belgium in two years

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to Bangladesh in 30.

0:35:040:35:06

The scale of the challenges really became apparent.

0:35:060:35:09

Jesus! Stay still.

0:35:130:35:15

Stay fucking still.

0:35:150:35:17

Jack, we've got to get him out now!

0:35:170:35:20

In the first five years of the Afghan conflict, two British soldiers had been killed in action.

0:35:270:35:33

In 2006 alone, that rose to 39.

0:35:330:35:37

A slow drumbeat of death began to roll.

0:35:370:35:42

Ministers said the sacrifice was about keeping the streets of Britain

0:35:460:35:49

safe by denying Al-Qaeda a safe haven in Afghanistan.

0:35:490:35:53

Yet a mission that had been intended to help stabilise Afghanistan

0:36:020:36:06

seemed to have made it less stable.

0:36:060:36:10

'There's no doubt that the Taliban are growing in confidence and they're focusing their attention on Kabul.'

0:36:100:36:16

'Another bomb blast on the streets of Kabul.

0:36:160:36:19

'This is becoming increasingly familiar.'

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By the start of 2007, violence had spread across much of the country,

0:36:260:36:31

with a sevenfold increase in suicide bombings.

0:36:310:36:34

Many were being planned and executed from Pakistan.

0:36:340:36:39

The then US commander was General Karl Eikenberry.

0:36:400:36:45

He had regular meetings with the Afghan President, Hamid Karzai.

0:36:450:36:50

'Many of my conversations with him were conversations'

0:36:500:36:55

of maybe 60 minutes and 58 minutes would be spent on Pakistan.

0:36:550:36:59

And my view was, initially,

0:36:590:37:01

'he seems to be obsessing on this subject, but I have to tell you,'

0:37:010:37:05

as I look back on it, he was correct, it was a very serious problem.

0:37:050:37:09

I think around that time Pakistan came to the conclusion

0:37:090:37:12

maybe the coalition was going to be short of breath.

0:37:120:37:15

I believe very strongly that if the coalition

0:37:150:37:18

was not going to prevail in Afghanistan then Pakistan

0:37:180:37:22

wanted to make sure that they had some seat at the table.

0:37:220:37:24

A seat for Pakistan by using the Taliban

0:37:260:37:29

to gain influence inside Afghanistan.

0:37:290:37:33

The CIA concluded that America's closest ally in the region could no longer be trusted.

0:37:330:37:38

Pakistan's intelligence service, the ISI, was playing a double game.

0:37:380:37:45

Do you want to know where the headquarters of the Afghan Taliban is?

0:37:460:37:49

Find the headquarters of the ISI, they are in the same building.

0:37:490:37:53

We've even had reports of Pakistani officers

0:37:530:37:56

being killed inside Afghanistan,

0:37:560:37:59

fighting with the Afghan Taliban as expert advisors to them.

0:37:590:38:03

The Afghans also insist that Pakistan intelligence was protecting the Taliban leader, Mullah Omar.

0:38:050:38:11

-They know where he is?

-Of course.

0:38:110:38:13

He is in their safe house.

0:38:130:38:15

Did they ever tell you where he was when you were...?

0:38:170:38:20

I told them where he was and they got panicked.

0:38:200:38:23

Not once, not twice - time and again.

0:38:230:38:26

Why did you not hand over Mullah Omar to the Americans?

0:38:260:38:28

He never came to Pakistan.

0:38:280:38:30

-He did!

-That is the normal belief.

0:38:300:38:32

He came to Pakistan at the end of 2002.

0:38:320:38:34

No, I don't think so, ever.

0:38:340:38:36

You don't think he is even there today?

0:38:360:38:38

No, I don't think. He'll be mad if he's in Pakistan.

0:38:380:38:40

-Where do you think he is?

-He'll be in his own area.

0:38:400:38:45

-In Afghanistan?

-Yes.

0:38:450:38:47

You think Mullah Omar is in Afghanistan?

0:38:470:38:49

-Yes, indeed.

-You must be the only person who does?

0:38:490:38:52

Well, I'm the only person? No.

0:38:520:38:54

The people who don't believe that are probably West and United States.

0:38:550:38:59

I don't think anyone else believes that he is in Pakistan.

0:38:590:39:03

By the end of 2008, many of the Bush administration's major goals

0:39:080:39:13

for Afghanistan were in reverse.

0:39:130:39:16

The 'Lite' military footprint was heavier.

0:39:160:39:19

53,000 NATO troops - mostly American - and rising.

0:39:190:39:24

Washington, once determined to avoid nation-building,

0:39:240:39:28

was now spending many billions.

0:39:280:39:30

And Pakistan, once their friend, was betraying them.

0:39:300:39:36

America was getting sucked in deeper and deeper and there seemed no way out.

0:39:360:39:40

CROWD CHEERS

0:39:400:39:43

-Thank you.

-All eyes turned to a new president for fresh thinking.

0:39:450:39:50

Thank you so much, everybody, thank you very much.

0:39:500:39:54

Thank you, everybody.

0:39:540:39:56

We meet at one of those defining moments,

0:39:580:40:01

a moment when our nation is at war.

0:40:010:40:04

'We left him a very poor hand of cards,'

0:40:040:40:07

with very few choices. When Mr Obama came aboard,

0:40:070:40:13

he was immediately faced with, "Be careful, don't lose Afghanistan."

0:40:130:40:18

The President asked me to fly with him to California in early March 2009.

0:40:220:40:29

And after reading my report, we spent the better part of a couple of hours going through it.

0:40:290:40:34

President Obama had asked Bruce Riedel

0:40:360:40:39

to write a no-holds-barred report on the Afghan crisis,

0:40:390:40:43

and Riedel did not pull his punches.

0:40:430:40:48

Defeat is what we were staring in the eye two years ago, catastrophic defeat in Afghanistan.

0:40:480:40:53

With the Taliban taking over the southern half of the country

0:40:530:40:56

and maybe being able to march on Kabul at some point in the future

0:40:560:40:59

and the NATO Alliance fragmenting and falling apart.

0:40:590:41:04

The President ordered his staff to go back to basics.

0:41:060:41:10

What exactly were America's goals,

0:41:100:41:13

and how best to achieve them?

0:41:130:41:16

A gruelling policy review ensued.

0:41:160:41:19

It would take eight long months.

0:41:190:41:21

In settings somewhat humbler than Air Force One,

0:41:290:41:32

an equally bleak picture had been briefed to the British Prime Minister.

0:41:320:41:36

I was on my way home for the weekend and I'd got to Cardiff station

0:41:390:41:43

and just got on the train that goes up the valley, and it was packed out.

0:41:430:41:47

Suddenly the Prime Minister was on the phone, and you can't not take a call from the Prime Minister!

0:41:470:41:53

Gordon Brown wanted Kim Howells' assessment of the Afghan government led by Hamid Karzai.

0:41:530:42:00

Seven years earlier Karzai had been seen as Afghanistan's saviour.

0:42:000:42:05

I told him that we would find it increasingly difficult

0:42:050:42:08

trying to argue the case for continued death

0:42:080:42:10

and the maiming of our young people in Afghanistan

0:42:100:42:16

when they were fighting to prop up a regime that was basically...

0:42:160:42:21

up to its eyeballs in corruption.

0:42:210:42:22

These mansions had sprung up in a part of Kabul

0:42:260:42:30

exclusively reserved for Afghanistan's military and political elite.

0:42:300:42:35

Ordinary Afghans could only wonder how such luxuries

0:42:350:42:38

could be afforded on a government wage.

0:42:380:42:42

In early 2009, one of the US senators overseeing

0:42:460:42:50

America's multi-billion-dollar investment in Afghanistan

0:42:500:42:54

confronted Karzai in the Presidential Palace.

0:42:540:42:58

The corruption in the country is rampant,

0:42:580:43:00

very frustrating to go there year in and year out and say

0:43:000:43:05

"When is somebody going to jail in Afghanistan for ripping off the Afghan people?

0:43:050:43:09

"When is somebody connected to the highest narcotics dealer ever going to go to jail in this country?"

0:43:090:43:15

-You said this to President Karzai?

-Absolutely, just like I'm saying it.

0:43:150:43:18

-At the dinner table?

-Yes.

0:43:180:43:20

"How much longer are the Afghan people going to have to wait

0:43:200:43:23

"and the world going to have to wait till you see things change here?"

0:43:230:43:26

This is Afghan MP, Dr Basher Dost,

0:43:310:43:34

famous for giving most of his salary to the poor.

0:43:340:43:39

In 2004, he resigned as Karzai's planning minister

0:43:390:43:43

in protest at the epic scale of corruption.

0:43:430:43:46

Karzai offered to let Bashar Dost head a new anti-corruption commission.

0:43:460:43:51

He agreed, but only if he could investigate Karzai's cabinet.

0:43:510:43:58

What was his response?

0:44:100:44:11

So you left the government?

0:44:260:44:27

In August 2009, Karzai stood for re-election.

0:44:310:44:35

-NEWSREADER:

-Voting is underway in Afghanistan's presidential election.

0:44:350:44:39

Corruption, fraud, apathy and the threat of attacks from the Taliban...

0:44:390:44:43

Allegations of vote rigging and fraud have been ringing across the cities, valleys and plains of Afghanistan.

0:44:430:44:50

The presidential election was wreathed in corruption.

0:44:500:44:54

Ballot boxes were stuffed with false papers.

0:44:540:44:57

The campaigns of both frontrunners were implicated.

0:44:570:45:00

Karzai won a second term in office,

0:45:000:45:04

but for the West it meant five more years with a partner who'd become a liability

0:45:040:45:09

and whose state of mind was also ringing alarm bells.

0:45:090:45:14

'President Karzai said to me several times'

0:45:140:45:16

that he suspected the British Army was involved in

0:45:160:45:20

the drugs trade in Helmand, otherwise we could have ended it.

0:45:200:45:23

He was sure that if we really wanted to, we could defeat the Taliban in Helmand

0:45:230:45:28

and we were choosing to keep the fighting going in order to give us an excuse to be there.

0:45:280:45:33

I mean, there is an extraordinary paranoia.

0:45:330:45:36

Afghanistan was beginning to look like just another tin-pot dictatorship.

0:45:360:45:44

In America, on 1st December 2009, the President announced the results of his long-awaited Afghan review.

0:45:470:45:55

I want to speak to you tonight about our effort in Afghanistan

0:45:550:45:59

and the strategy my administration will pursue to bring this war to a successful conclusion.

0:45:590:46:04

After years of drift,

0:46:040:46:07

America SEEMED to set its compass.

0:46:070:46:10

It was getting out of Afghanistan.

0:46:100:46:11

But not before having one last crack at the Taliban.

0:46:110:46:16

If I did not think that the security of the United States

0:46:160:46:20

and the safety of the American people were at stake in Afghanistan,

0:46:200:46:24

I would gladly order every single one of our troops home tomorrow.

0:46:240:46:27

To reverse the Taliban's momentum,

0:46:270:46:31

the generals told the President there'd need to be a military surge.

0:46:310:46:35

The President sent another 30,000 troops to war.

0:46:370:46:41

This has taken the total number of troops in Afghanistan to 142,000.

0:46:410:46:48

What you do today, you will have to live with that shit for the next 10, 20, 30-plus years.

0:46:490:46:55

This president decided that once in, he was in all the way

0:46:550:47:00

and that he needed to give our commanders in Afghanistan

0:47:000:47:05

the troops they felt necessary in order to turn the situation around.

0:47:050:47:09

For the first time

0:47:090:47:11

we had, if you like, the end state quantified in military terms.

0:47:110:47:17

Up until then we had just been increasing bit by bit

0:47:170:47:20

with never any clue of when enough was going to be enough.

0:47:200:47:23

The Americans decided that to secure Helmand, 30,000 troops were needed.

0:47:240:47:30

The most Britain could supply was 10,000.

0:47:300:47:34

If the Americans hadn't gone into Helmand,

0:47:350:47:38

there would have been a strategic defeat for the British Army.

0:47:380:47:44

Well, there would have been an inability to get our strategic objectives secured,

0:47:440:47:50

because the force levels required were beyond us.

0:47:500:47:53

That's not a strategic defeat for the British Army.

0:47:530:47:56

It's a strategic defeat for NATO,

0:47:560:47:57

but the British Army would have done its job magnificently.

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The purpose of the surge is to clear ground held by the Taliban.

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Smoking!

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GUN FIRE

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Yeah, bitch!

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Oh, yeah, baby!

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I fucking love you. Do it right.

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-Check?

-MEN SHOUT IN RESPONSE

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The Americans want to hand over the whole of Afghanistan to Afghan security forces by 2015.

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When the surge was announced, the British Foreign Secretary

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and his special envoy thought this was wildly ambitious.

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We asked a very senior Afghan minister

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how long the Afghan authorities would stay in Helmand after we left.

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And the Foreign Secretary, David Miliband, was expecting an answer -

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three years, six years, you know, however long it took.

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And the answer from this minister - very close to President Karzai, knows Helmand very well -

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his answer with a broad grin was, "24 hours, Foreign Secretary, 24 hours."

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The Americans say that since then,

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there's been much progress from a 12 billion-a-year training programme.

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Yet they are building an Afghan army and police force whose cost neither they nor the Afghans can sustain.

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And corruption and drug-taking are still endemic, even while on guard duty.

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Ultimately, as long as the Afghan government lacks legitimacy with the overwhelming majority,

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its security forces may not be able to hold the Taliban at bay.

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At the end of the day if you follow a counter insurgency strategy,

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you must be true to its precepts.

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And one of the principal precepts is, in a counter insurgency,

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you're only as good as the government you represent and serve.

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In this case it's the government of Afghanistan.

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That is why the Americans say that US troops will only be withdrawn from combat by 2015

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if the Afghans are capable by then of taking over.

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Not so the British.

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In May last year, Britain got a new leader.

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Like the President, the Prime Minister says he too will withdraw combat forces by 2015.

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I believe the country needs to know there is an end point to all of this.

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From 2015, there will not be troops in anything like the numbers there are now

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and crucially they will not be in a combat role.

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Unlike the American President, however, the Prime Minister intends to withdraw from combat by 2015

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whether or not Afghan forces can prevent al-Qaeda returning to Afghanistan

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even though that's always been the justification for our soldiers dying there.

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If the assessment at the end of 2014 is that

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Afghanistan hasn't been hardened against the return of al-Qaeda,

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might that deadline have to slip?

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No, the deadline is a deadline and it won't slip.

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We have paid a very, very large price in terms of the number of young men

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and indeed some young women that we've lost in Afghanistan,

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now over 360 people.

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And I think if you're going to maintain public support and backing for what we're doing,

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it's important to give people a clear idea that there is an end to this.

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There are lots of domestic political reasons

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why the Prime Minister has selected that option

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and we've committed ourselves as the British Army to deliver against that timeline.

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And whether or not it turns out to be an absolute timeline

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or more conditions-based approach nearer the time, we shall find out.

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So it's not an absolute commitment then

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that we will get out of combat operations, irrespective of the conditions on the ground?

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-It's certainly the intention.

-The intention, yeah, but things could change?

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Well, things could always change.

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I mean, things change weekly in politics and in strategic issues.

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For some time, Britain's special representative to Afghanistan had been arguing

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that the only way out was to start talking to the Taliban.

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Last summer Sherard Cowper-Coles attended a summit of Afghan experts at Chequers hosted by David Cameron.

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Stabilising Afghanistan isn't a question of pumping in more and more troops,

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or training up a vast national army to garrison the country.

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It's creating, arriving at a political settlement

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and then using military force to underpin that settlement, but not to deliver it.

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The simple conclusion that we came to is that

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most insurgencies down history and around the world have ended in two ways -

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one, with some military success, but secondly, with some political process and solution as well.

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The new Prime Minister decided that it was time

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to take political risks - to start talking to the Taliban.

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Last February, Washington agreed - something they'd previously opposed.

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The Americans say a Taliban team, including an aide to the leader Mullah Omar,

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are now engaged in exploratory talks.

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Eliminate any collateral damage.

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Fire. Shoot again.

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One more.

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One, two, three, four, five, six, seven guys. Two guys running up the wadi.

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But whilst American officials are talking to the Taliban,

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American special forces are also seeking out and killing many individual Taliban commanders.

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In a typical 90-day period special mission units

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kill or capture some 360 targeted insurgent leaders.

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The Americans say that only this relentless lethal pressure

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will persuade the Taliban to negotiate seriously.

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The Taliban say the only outcome will be yet more attacks directed at coalition forces.

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On a moonless night last month, American special forces set course for Pakistan.

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Their target - Osama Bin Laden, the man the Taliban leadership still revere

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as the leader of the Islamic jihad against the infidel invaders.

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GUNSHOTS

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On nights like this one, we can say to those families who have lost loved ones to al-Qaeda's terror,

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justice has been done...

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-CROWD CHEERS

-USA! USA!

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I couldn't be more proud.

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It's been a long ten years.

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The Americans may have removed Bin Laden from the scene, but what of his original objectives?

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The objective of September 11th

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was to goad the United States into invading Afghanistan.

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Then they could destroy an American army in Afghanistan,

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shatter our will at home

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and lead the United States and our allies to get out of the Islamic world.

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Bin Laden did provoke the longest war in America's history,

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and the financial cost has become unsustainable, never mind the human toll.

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You are going to say that we killed your women and your children

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and that is not true.

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So what about the coalition's war objectives?

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They say they've dismantled al-Qaeda's base in Afghanistan,

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but it's been re-mantled across the border in Pakistan.

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We have not succeeded yet in

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partnering the state of Afghanistan

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to ensure that al-Qaeda cannot return here.

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Ten years ago, we thought we could get in and out quickly.

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Today, we're still struggling to build an Afghan government

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that can stand on its own two feet...

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GUNSHOTS AND EXPLOSIONS

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..and now we're losing patience.

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I think no-one really understood,

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perhaps still no-one really does understand

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the scale of the challenge we've taken on in Afghanistan.

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We would never, in the 19th century, have created a colony,

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run it for five or ten years, and then said, "It's over to you now."

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But that's really what our so-called strategy in Afghanistan is.

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If it's going to take 30 years to stabilise Afghanistan,

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let the Afghans go through those 30 years of stabilisation,

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because we will never do it.

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We have not 30 years, but just three years to get it finally right.

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The armies of the international coalition are all heading for the exits.

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Next week Mark Urban tells the inside story

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of the bloody five-year battle for Helmand with unique access

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to the generals and frontline troops who have had to fight it.

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