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CROWD SINGS # And we were singing hymns and arias... # | 0:00:02 | 0:00:07 | |
'And they are still singing hymns and arias. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
'Four decades after it was written, everybody knows the words. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:15 | |
'This people's anthem is part of the amazing story of Live At Treorchy, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:21 | |
'the album that turned unknown singer and comedian Max Boyce | 0:00:21 | 0:00:25 | |
'into an international star, | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
'launching a career spanning 40 years | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
'and two million record sales. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
'Recorded in a Rhondda rugby club in 1973, | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
'this collection of comedy, poetry and song astonished the industry | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
'by coming from nowhere to stay in the charts for three years | 0:00:41 | 0:00:46 | |
'and attract fans across the world. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
'Live At Treorchy still stands as a beacon of Wales and welsh identity, | 0:00:48 | 0:00:53 | |
'captured forever in nine unforgettable tracks.' | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
Maybe in years to come, they'll look back on him as one of the great bards. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:03 | |
It was almost like a folk song. That kind of thing. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
It's there with Under Milk Wood and Ryan At The Rank. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:12 | |
It's almost as important to us, as a family, than the rugby itself. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
As important a statement of Welsh culture as anything by Dylan Thomas or Saunders Lewis. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:22 | |
He was funny, damn him! | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
CHEERS AND WHISTLES | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
'This is the story of Max Boyce and The Road To Treorchy.' | 0:01:28 | 0:01:34 | |
-Oggy! Oggy! Oggy! -AUDIENCE: Oi! Oi! Oi! | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
'When Live At Treorchy was released in 1974, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
'nobody, least of all Max Boyce, could have predicted that, | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
'40 years later, many of its songs would be sung across the world. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:53 | |
'And what a variety of songs there were - raucous rugby songs, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:58 | |
'like The Scottish Trip, celebrating the camaraderie of Welsh fans on tour.' | 0:01:58 | 0:02:03 | |
# ..Went up by train and by car | 0:02:03 | 0:02:08 | |
# When the juice of the valleys start flowing | 0:02:08 | 0:02:13 | |
# We all saw the game in the bar... # | 0:02:13 | 0:02:18 | |
'But there were also songs of sadness of poignancy, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
'like Did You Understand? which explored the decline of coal, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:27 | |
'a subject that touched Max personally.' | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
# I remember the time | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
# Of the collier and the candle | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
# Of a long, bitter fight that darkened the land... # | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
'And there was the surreal comedy of the Outside Half Factory.' | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
# ..But he's had some rejects lately Cos there's such a big demand | 0:02:47 | 0:02:52 | |
# So he sells them to the northern clubs | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
# And stamps them "secondhand"... # | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
'All of these songs came from one man who could write about this world | 0:03:01 | 0:03:06 | |
'because he was rooted in it. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
'Maxwell Boyce - singer, poet, comic - | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
'was born into tragic circumstances on September 27 1943, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:16 | |
'in the mining town of Glynneath.' | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
My father was killed in a mine explosion a month before I was born. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:24 | |
We lived in one room in my auntie's house. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
It wasn't tough for me. I don't remember any hardship. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
It was tough for Mother. She had to go to work. She was only 28. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:37 | |
'Growing up in a post-war valleys mining community, Max was surrounded by song and verse, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:43 | |
'but he had no ambitions to be a performer. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
'Max left school at 15 to support his mother. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
'Like almost every other man in the village, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
'he went down the mines.' | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
I'm glad, looking back, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
because I worked ten years underground. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
That gave me a licence, as it were, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
to write songs I would never had written had I not worked in the mining industry. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:09 | |
'In between night shifts, | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
'the young Max did what many teenagers did in the '60s, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
'he picked up his first guitar. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
'Not the most natural musician, Max spent years trying to master Bert Weedon's Play In A Day book.' | 0:04:18 | 0:04:24 | |
Everyone had them. So I bought it. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
'His perseverance paid off, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
'following a chance meeting with a local agent in a music shop.' | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
I went in this back room full of old guitar boxes and sang songs to him, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:37 | |
like, country songs. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
The two I auditioned were, amazing, The Wreck Of The FFE about a train crash and the Wabash Cannonball! | 0:04:40 | 0:04:47 | |
-LAUGHS -Oh, and Paddy McGinty's Goat! | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
# Now, old Paddy's goat had the wondrous appetite... # | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
'So I went round the clubs singing country songs | 0:04:53 | 0:04:58 | |
'and I was very ordinary.' | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
'Ordinary or not, Max soon shifted from singing other people's material to his own. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:08 | |
'Inspired by Bob Dylan and the protest singers, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
'he reflected his surroundings. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
'As he developed his gift for comedy and social comment, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
'the changing South Wales valleys provided plenty of source material. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:22 | |
'The early '70s brought Wales a golden generation of rugby talent. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
'Kings on the field, they dominated the game, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
'trouncing the old enemy with almost monotonous regularity. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:35 | |
'Off it, industrial turmoil and the decline of coal took their toll. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:40 | |
'Max's own working life reflected these changes. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:45 | |
'He quit the colliery to work as an electrical engineer in the Metal Box factory in Neath.' | 0:05:45 | 0:05:50 | |
I was glad to leave. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
Everybody who worked there has a love-hate relationship. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
You love the camaraderie. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
As I wrote in the song, "Now those dusty mines have seen the last of me." I never wanted to go back. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:06 | |
'This change of job also brought a change of fortune. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
'Max began making regular appearances on BBC Radio Wales.' | 0:06:10 | 0:06:15 | |
I wrote topical songs about everything. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
I'm always grateful to the boys at the Metal Box. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
The BBC rang me up at 10 o'clock and said, right, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
Margaret Thatcher had stopped free school milk | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
and would I write a song about it? | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
I said, "I'm in work." | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
The boys said, "Don't worry. We'll cover the breakdowns." | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
I'd be at night shift at Metal Box, writing songs about Margaret Thatcher stopping free milk. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:44 | |
On a night shift, it was quiet. We had our jobs to do, which we did. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
In the quiet times, Max would do his composing. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
He'd catch up on the sleep | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
he'd missed by getting up early to record. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
'If he was stuck for a rhyme, his workmates weren't short of suggestions.' | 0:06:57 | 0:07:02 | |
He'd say, "Don't be silly. That doesn't sound right." | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
Some of those songs could have been really, really bad. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:12 | |
Luckily, Max had the common sense not to listen to us! | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
Then I was getting in trouble. They were strict on absenteeism. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:21 | |
If you were sick, you put S on your card. If a pattern developed, they'd sack you. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:28 | |
I'd say, "I've got a massive concert." | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
"Oh, OK. Put down D." | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
D was "domestic trouble". | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
So my card was covered in Ds. Ds everywhere! | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
The personnel manager... I was going through the factory, singing songs. ..he said, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:48 | |
-ENGLISH ACCENT: -"Can I say, I've got so much respect for you, Max, young Boyce. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:54 | |
"You're such a cheery fellow for someone who's had so much domestic trouble." | 0:07:54 | 0:08:01 | |
'By 1971, he was making his first television appearances, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
'but a stage show in Swansea would lead to his big break." | 0:08:05 | 0:08:10 | |
'He was invited to support Ken Dodd in the Brangwyn Hall.' | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
There was so much laughter going on, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
because Max is so parochial, that Ken Dodd really objected to this. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:23 | |
He was put out the fact that his spot was taken. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
He said something like, "Well, you can support me next time." | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
'In Swansea that night, EMI producer Bob Barratt | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
'was blown away by Max's show-stealing antics.' | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
He asked could he see me and came to a concert somewhere. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
Then we met here at the beautiful Langland Bay Golf Club. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
'Bob Barratt wined and dined Max and offered him a two-album deal. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:53 | |
'The young and naive performer was only too happy to sign. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
'Four decades later, Max dearly wishes he'd read the small print.' | 0:08:57 | 0:09:02 | |
Signed my life away, really. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
I was so delighted, really, to sign a major recording contract, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:09 | |
I'd have signed anything, and I signed it for 1.25% first album | 0:09:09 | 0:09:14 | |
and the second album for 1.5%. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
The follow-up to Live At Treorchy was We All Had Doctors' Papers, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:21 | |
-which went to Number One, so, 1.5% -LAUGHS | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
'Still, he'd signed the deal and the show had to go on. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
'Without an agent or any promotional backing, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
'Max had to make his own arrangements for the recording of his first EMI album. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:38 | |
'In parochial Wales, Max's fame was largely in the Swansea valley. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:43 | |
'On the advice of friends from Penygraig Rugby Club, | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
'Max booked the Treorchy RFC clubhouse, just 16 miles from his home town of Glynneath. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:53 | |
'There was one problem - they'd never heard of Max Boyce.' | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
We didn't know who or what he was. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
They hadn't heard of me, that was the other side of the coin. We couldn't sell the tickets. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:06 | |
Oh, yes! That's right! | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
And I think Max himself went out | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
and was giving tickets to people just in the road. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
They came because they almost felt sorry for me. I had no audience! | 0:10:15 | 0:10:20 | |
'The audience wasn't the only problem.' | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
Max arrived with with the backing group. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
He said, "Where's the piano?" | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
We all looked a bit stupid. "Piano? I've never bothered with a piano." | 0:10:29 | 0:10:35 | |
He said, "I've got to have a piano." | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
He said, "Let's phone around a few clubs and see if they've got one." | 0:10:38 | 0:10:43 | |
They phoned around and said, "Yeah. There's one in a club 350 yards from here. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:49 | |
"They said come and fetch it." | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
A gaggle of boys, believe it or not, humped this piano out to the road | 0:10:51 | 0:10:56 | |
and rolled it up on its casters! | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
Brought it to the side, chucked it on the stage. Said, "Here we are." | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
You can imagine, it was not very good. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
'For the sound engineers from London sent by EMI to record the gig, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:11 | |
'it must have been challenging.' | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
It's very posh now, but in them days, there was no players' lounge. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:19 | |
It wasn't very pleasant to look at. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
The club mascot, the zebra, his head was sticking through the front wall. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:27 | |
On a Saturday night, you were knee deep in beer from the bar and broken glass, everybody drunk. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:33 | |
But we loved it. It was our club. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
'And so, on a cold November night in 1973, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
'Maxwell Boyce, Metal Box factory employee, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
'singer, poet, comedian, entered the Treorchy Rugby clubhouse, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
'little knowing what fate had in store. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
'There is no footage or photographs from that legendary night | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
'but, for those who were there, the memories are unforgettable.' | 0:11:57 | 0:12:03 | |
-The atmosphere was electric. -It was buzzing when we walked in. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
It was packed. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
They were queuing up from six, outside the door. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
They did let them in a bit early. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
'Employing all his wit and charm, | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
'Max had persuaded half the Rhondda to attend his concert.' | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
I think they understood it was a very important night for me. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:26 | |
'The Treorchy clubhouse held just 250 people. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
'By 7 o'clock it was full to bursting. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
'Beer and Babycham were flowing, and Max's nerves were beginning to shred.' | 0:12:33 | 0:12:39 | |
'It must have been very tense for him. He was really trying to get himself psyched up.' | 0:12:39 | 0:12:47 | |
I can see us now going, "Come on, Max! You can do it! | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
"You'll be wonderful!" | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
And virtually pushing him out through the door, so he was almost at 100% as soon as he went out. | 0:12:54 | 0:13:01 | |
-COMPERE: -We're all set. A great welcome awaits, Max Boyce. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:06 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:13:06 | 0:13:07 | |
It was like an explosion. That was the difference. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
He came rushing on with this enormous leek and "Oggy! Oggy!" | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
-Oggy! Oggy! Oggy! -Oi! Oi! Oi! | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
The leek was everywhere! | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
I was just...flying. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
-It was better than I'd expected. -Laughter from start to finish. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:26 | |
-Heard it before, have you? -LAUGHTER | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
I think I stood on a table there and said, "I've come home!" | 0:13:29 | 0:13:35 | |
I hadn't planned anything. I don't think I knew what I was going to do. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
'I had a dream the other night, the strangest dream of all | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
'I dreamt I was in heaven and away from life's hard call | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
'It was as I'd imagined, with the silver stars beneath | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
'Seven there from Treorchy Thousands from Glynneath.' | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
'With the audience warmed up, Max launched into his set list.' | 0:13:58 | 0:14:03 | |
Right. Here we go, then... | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
'His choice of material was simple.' | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
It was everything I'd ever written at the time - minus the Wabash Cannonball and the Wreck Of The FFE. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:16 | |
# We...went up to the highlands of Scotland... # | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
'Honed over his apprenticeship on the club circuit, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
'the songs Max performed had the formula that has served him since.' | 0:14:24 | 0:14:29 | |
# ..We'll all bring our wives back a present... # | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
'Wry observation.' | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
-# ..So we can go next time again. # -LAUGHTER | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
'Great jokes... | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
'..and a big catchy singalong chorus.' | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
# Singing... | 0:14:45 | 0:14:50 | |
-MAX AND AUDIENCE -# Too-ral-ay-oo-ral-ay addi...# | 0:14:50 | 0:14:55 | |
'Max was particularly canny with his distribution of unwanted tickets. | 0:14:55 | 0:15:01 | |
'He made sure the famous Treorchy Male Voice Choir got their share, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:07 | |
'giving himself the best unofficial backing singers possible.' | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
At the back are the Treorchy Male Voice. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
-And down the front is like Treorchy Co-op. -LAUGHTER | 0:15:14 | 0:15:20 | |
# Singing... # | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
I thought the singing was tremendous for a live performance. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:29 | |
It was absolutely tremendous. It was in tune. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
A few slurs cos everybody was drunk. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
It was a hell of a sound. Really good. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
We had a good singsong. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
# ..in the bar! # | 0:15:41 | 0:15:46 | |
CHEERS AND WHISTLES | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
'Switching from song to poetry, Max celebrated Llanelli's triumph | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
'over the All Blacks in 1972 | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
'in almost bardic fashion.' | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
It's called simply 9-3. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
I think I wrote it the next day, in about half an hour. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:15 | |
Twas on a dark and dismal day in a week that had seen rain | 0:16:15 | 0:16:20 | |
When all roads led to Stradey Park with the All Blacks here again | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
They poured down from the valleys they came from far and wide | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
There were 20,000 in the ground and me and Dai outside... | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
As a Llanelli boy, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
you wouldn't be surprised that 9-3 is my favourite track. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
It's because it brings back all the euphoria and excitement of that day, | 0:16:38 | 0:16:44 | |
31 October 1972. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
Llanelli beating the All Blacks 9-3. And I was there! | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
Another Max phrase. I WAS there. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
..The shops were closed like Sunday and the streets were silent still | 0:16:52 | 0:16:58 | |
And those who chose to stay away were either dead or ill | 0:16:58 | 0:17:03 | |
But those who went to Stradey, boys will remember till they die | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
How New Zealand were defeated and how the pubs ran dry | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
Oh, the beer flowed at Stradey piped down from Felinfoel | 0:17:13 | 0:17:19 | |
And the air, | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
the air was filled with singing and I saw a grown man cry | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
Not because we'd won but because the pubs ran dry... | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
Llanelli was just a mad carnival. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
Max, in 9-3, brings all that back. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
Well, thank you, both... | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
'In between poetry and song, the jokes kept coming.' | 0:17:38 | 0:17:43 | |
The only break I had was when a chap came out, walked past with a tray of drinks. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:50 | |
I stopped and I said... | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
'Big round you've got there, lad...!' | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
-On the committee, are you? -LAUGHTER | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
'Live At Treorchy wasn't just a comedy night. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
'What made it so special was the depth and variety of material, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:09 | |
'which switched seamlessly from belly laughs to quiet reflection.' | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
# In our little valley they closed the colliery down | 0:18:13 | 0:18:20 | |
# And the pithead baths is a supermarket now... # | 0:18:20 | 0:18:25 | |
If you listen to the record, it's absolute silence for the ballads. There's not a clink of glass. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:34 | |
They could identify to those coal mining ballads I sang at the time. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:39 | |
# ..It's hard, Duw, it's hard... # | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
Duw It's Hard is a love-hate relationship song, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
where you moaned the closure of the industry that supplied work, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
but you didn't want anybody to work in those conditions. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
Only someone who'd been in that environment could have written that. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:02 | |
It wasn't some nancy folk singer coming and saying, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
"How horrible it is!" This is a miner talking about the closure | 0:19:06 | 0:19:11 | |
and saying, "It was bloody hard. I don't want to work under there." | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
# ..Cos it's hard... # | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
He hits the nail on the head. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
He said, "I'll never regret not going back down there." | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
A lot of miners say, "Best job I ever had - for the camaraderie." | 0:19:26 | 0:19:32 | |
It wasn't a great job. It was dirty, filthy, dangerous. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
Yet, there's that honesty about the camaraderie. "I will miss what we had." | 0:19:35 | 0:19:41 | |
"..But I can't forget the times we had | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
# The laughing midst the fear | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
# Cos every time I cough I get a mining souvenir... # | 0:19:49 | 0:19:57 | |
They had a mining souvenir. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
God alive! That was on every corner! | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
When I saw some of these ex-miners stopping to take a breath, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:11 | |
leaning against a gate or against the fence, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
I knew exactly what he was talking about. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:21 | |
# ..The pithead baths is a supermarket now... # | 0:20:21 | 0:20:28 | |
I was reading the Western Mail | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
and there was an advert in there. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
"Carpets for sale. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
"Carpet Kingdom. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
"The old pithead baths, Cwm Ebbw Vale." | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
I thought, "Yeah. The pithead baths is a supermarket now." | 0:20:43 | 0:20:49 | |
# ..Aye, the pithead baths | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
# It's a supermarket now. # | 0:20:53 | 0:21:00 | |
APPLAUSE AND WHISTLES | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
# We paid our weekly shilling for that January trip... # | 0:21:13 | 0:21:18 | |
'Max closed with a rousing rendition of Hymns And Arias. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
'To the audience who learned it that night, it was a fresh take on Welsh fan culture. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:28 | |
'To those who weren't even born in 1973, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
'it's the most familiar rugby anthem of all.' | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
The crowd starts singing Hymns And Arias, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
it's such a motivation. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
It's a Welsh rugby hymn, really. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
They don't come much bigger than that. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
On the field, we can feel it. We've got a lot of thanks to give Max. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:52 | |
'The people of Treorchy helped Max's material come alive. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
'Every song buzzed with the energy of those who could say...' | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
I was there. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
People say, "Was you really?" "I was, actually, you know." | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
If you went to Rhondda, you'd find 30,000 people who said, "I was there that night." | 0:22:07 | 0:22:12 | |
There were no edits. It was just as it was. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
One take. Bang. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
We was all drunk, all singing. It was just a great night to us. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:23 | |
A heady night. Magic night. Yeah. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
There's a conspiracy between me and an audience. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
'But the recording was just the beginning. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
'Max Boyce, Live At Treorchy sneaked out in the spring of '74 | 0:22:34 | 0:22:39 | |
'with no fanfares, no promotion and no prospect of success. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
'But in a dreary grey world of strikes, power cuts, three-day weeks and hung parliaments, | 0:22:43 | 0:22:50 | |
'something surprising happened - the album began to sell. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:55 | |
'Mostly in Wales, then throughout the UK by the truckload. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
'After ten years of hard slog, Max was an overnight sensation. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:04 | |
'How had this happened? | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
'One man is prepared to take credit for the album's success in Wales.' | 0:23:06 | 0:23:11 | |
I am partly responsible for the fact that Live At Treorchy became a best-selling LP. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:18 | |
When it went on sale in the National Eisteddfod in Carmarthen | 0:23:18 | 0:23:23 | |
in August 1974, I was working at a shop which had a stand. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:28 | |
It was the only stand where Max's record was on sale, and there were queues every day. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:35 | |
It sold hundreds of copies. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
But I'd like Max to realise today that part of that best-selling sale | 0:23:37 | 0:23:43 | |
was down to my skills as a salesman. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
'As for its unexpected success over the border, | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
'Tenby record shop owner Laurie Dale thinks he has the answer.' | 0:23:48 | 0:23:53 | |
We had this record that came in, Live At Treorchy, | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
which meant very little to me, but I listened to it and thought it was so funny | 0:23:55 | 0:24:01 | |
that I thought I'd put it to the hotels. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
I gave it to all the hotels in Tenby and they all played it in the bars. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:09 | |
Suddenly, before I knew it, I was selling boxes of these. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
And they were all going to English tourists. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
These tourists went back to England and couldn't find these LPs. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:22 | |
So they would ring me up and say, "Could you send me a Max Boyce LP?" | 0:24:22 | 0:24:27 | |
I'm thinking, "This is crazy." So I rang EMI and said, "You ought to promote him a little." | 0:24:27 | 0:24:34 | |
Of course, he said, "Oh, no, no. They'd only sell in Wales." | 0:24:34 | 0:24:39 | |
I said, "No, no. Tourists are buying them like mad." The rest is history. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:45 | |
I was called the poor man's Max Boyce. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
It's thanks to Max, really, that I'm here, he and Billy Connolly. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:53 | |
Because their regional backing kicked the whole thing off. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
'In today's money, Live At Treorchy made 1.3 million. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:02 | |
'Not that Max saw much profit with his 1.25% cut, | 0:25:02 | 0:25:07 | |
'but it allowed him to become a professional performer. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
'And while Max's follow-up album, We All Had Doctors' Papers, | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
'remains the only comedy album ever to top the UK charts, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
'it's the songs and poems of Live At Treorchy that are recited from Glynneath to the Gold Coast. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:25 | |
'So what is the secret of their remarkable staying power? | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
'For a start, there's their sheer Welshness.' | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
Max made Welshness the central phenomenon of the act. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:38 | |
Yes, it was overblown and a bit kitsch and a bit over-the-top, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
but we loved it because he was proud of his identity | 0:25:42 | 0:25:47 | |
and not afraid to sock it to other people, English people, and say, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
"Hey. We are Welsh and we're proud of it. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
"We're rugby fanatics. We've got our own language. We're happy with our identity." | 0:25:54 | 0:26:00 | |
It's almost like Max invented our own Vera Lynn. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
He invented Welsh jingoism, which was allowable. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:08 | |
It's not nasty nationalism, in any way. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
It's passionate patriotism. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
We realised for the first time that Welsh people had a great sense of humour, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:21 | |
just as we all have, but it had not been represented before. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
So suddenly there's this guy saying, "Look, we're good." | 0:26:25 | 0:26:30 | |
'The experience Max described struck a chord with working people wherever they lived.' | 0:26:30 | 0:26:37 | |
There's something very human about the stories Max tells. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
They happen to be set in Wales. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
They could be set in other places, if you gave them a different accent. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:49 | |
He empathises with people, not a certain type. With people. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
He's not upper class, you see. He's one of us, working class. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:58 | |
'It's more than 40 years since Max wrote Live At Treorchy's greatest hit. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:05 | |
'He's left it until now to reveal a dark secret about Hymns And Arias.' | 0:27:05 | 0:27:12 | |
I was cleaning the house out and I came across this original version of Hymns And Arias. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:18 | |
It's unfinished and it was actually called...Twickers. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:23 | |
I must have changed it before I sang it but it's down here as Twickers. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:28 | |
It's like finding the Dead Sea Scrolls! | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
'It may feel like an ancient manuscript to Max, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
'but all these years later, Hymns And Arias is Wales's second anthem.' | 0:27:36 | 0:27:41 | |
When they start singing it, the feeling, I can't describe it. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:47 | |
To hear that stadium reeling to the song you've written is something that is just magical. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:54 | |
'All together now...!' | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
# And we were singing | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
# Hymns and arias | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
# Land of my fathers Ar hyd y nos | 0:28:05 | 0:28:10 | |
# And we were singing hymns and arias | 0:28:10 | 0:28:16 | |
# Land of my fathers | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
# Harry the horse | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
# Ar hyd y nos. # | 0:28:23 | 0:28:30 | |
CHEERS AND WHISTLES | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
E-mail [email protected] | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 |