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Reya El-Salahi, taking you through Sunday evening. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
I'm Reya, and I'm 25. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:05 | |
On my weekly radio show, I explore race and identity in Britain. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
My own background is complicated - I'm mixed Arab Muslim and Jewish. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:14 | |
Now I'm going to Israel to try to understand the conflict | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
that divides my own family. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:21 | |
Bitter conflict over land and power in Israel between Jewish Israelis | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
and Arab Palestinians has been going on for decades. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
It's a really dangerous place to be the sort of person that I am. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:37 | |
And I can imagine a lot of people won't take that well. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
I'm definitely not ready for some parts of Israeli life. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
And in some places, being mixed puts me in a difficult position. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
My dad would not be allowed here, | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
and he'd be mistrusted. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
I see the divisions created in the name of security... | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
I can't imagine what it would be like, this is your view | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
out of your bedroom window. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
..and ancient divisions that leave me isolated. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
I know it's not religion itself and blah, blah, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
but religion is bullshit. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
I see victims of the conflict here on the Palestinian side... | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
My eyes and skin are burning, I feel like I'm going to be sick. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
I can't see justification for shooting tear gas at kids. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
..and I see how Palestinian violence affects Israelis... | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
His head just... SHE POPS | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
..popped off like a champagne cork. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
I don't know if I'm going to find any place in this country | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
where I could belong. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:36 | |
I'm haunted by what I saw. That will never leave me. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
Growing up mixed race in Britain is complicated, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
but my background is extra difficult. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
My dad is North African Arab, from a Muslim background. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
My mum was born and brought up in Britain, but she's Jewish. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
When my mum met my dad, her mum actually refused to meet him. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:06 | |
My mum's side and my dad's side, we don't mix too much. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
I'd love for both sides of the family to be more integrated | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
and put aside their politics, just to be able to have | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
Christmas together, of all events, or Eid or Hanukkah. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:22 | |
My family wrestles with how to feel about the conflict. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
Even my Jewish mother has her doubts about Israel... | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
I was born just after the war, always heard my parents | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
talking about the Holocaust. And Israel was somewhere to look to | 0:02:33 | 0:02:38 | |
and to support - it was our place. But my views on that changed. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
And I now, and for many years now, don't support a Jewish state. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:48 | |
I want a secular state for everyone in the Middle East. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:53 | |
Am I Jewish or am I Muslim? | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
At the moment, that's not something that I'm willing to decide. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
I feel like I'm both and that is the answer. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
My brother, Zaki, went to Israel ten years ago | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
in a pro-Palestinian student group. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
You don't want to see people being killed anywhere, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
but Israelis, they've got to accept that if they occupied | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
someone's land, there'll be a reaction. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
There's that sense that you have your opinions, | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
and you're quite kind of sure in what you think. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
And then the other side of the family, that are more | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
Mum's side that are more pro-Israel, have their opinions | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
and it's like there's no middle ground. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
I really want to go to this place that is such a source of contention | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
in my family, in the world, and experience it for myself | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
and have my own opinions, rather than what one side of my family | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
tells me and the other side of my family tells me what I should think. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
'It's my farewell dinner. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
'My family is supportive of my journey to Israel | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
'but well aware that parts of it will be dangerous, too.' | 0:03:48 | 0:03:53 | |
I'm quite scared about it. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
Zaki went there and he almost got shot. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
I wish that you go there and do your job and come back safely. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:03 | |
Bye, house! | 0:04:03 | 0:04:04 | |
The best outcome from this trip for me, the absolute ideal would be | 0:04:12 | 0:04:17 | |
to come away feeling like I know more about who I am. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
The worst thing that could come out of this is that | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
I feel like I don't belong anywhere. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
I want to come back feeling like it's opened a door to find out more, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
not like it's closed a door. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:34 | |
My first experience in Israel is not a good sign. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
Everyone in the crew gets through passport control | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
but I get taken away for questioning. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
At first I was like, "Here we go". | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
But it's to be expected, isn't it? | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
I can't come here with a name like El-Salahi | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
and expect to be walking through, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
waving, skipping, holding hands with security guards. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
But at the same time, it is just funny to sit in that room | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
and everyone in there is brown. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
And everyone getting through with no problems seems to be lighter skin. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
Maybe that's just a coincidence, but that the only other guy in there | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
was called Mohammed. Oh, what a surprise! | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
"Hi, Mohammed, I'm Reya El-Salahi, nice to meet you." | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
The modern country of Israel was founded in 1948, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
following the Holocaust of the second world war. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
Before that, Jews were scattered all over the world. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
But Palestinian Arabs say this land is theirs | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
because they've lived here for over a thousand years. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
My first impression of Israel was a bit intimidating. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
But tomorrow, I'm meeting some young Israelis who will help me | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
figure out what Tel Aviv is really like... | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
I hope! | 0:05:57 | 0:05:58 | |
I'm meeting Keren Cohen, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:07 | |
a Jewish girl born in Israel, who went to university in the UK. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:12 | |
She moved back to Tel Aviv two years ago, | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
and she and her friend Shenae are keen to show me | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
what they like about Israel. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
Hey, lovely to meet you! I'm Reya. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
Hey there, nice to meet you. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
-Shenae. -Hello, lovely to meet you. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
Thank you for taking me round today. I'm very excited. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
-We have to have our bags checked? -Yes. -OK. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
Whenever you're going in and out of shops? | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
-You have to get your bags checked. -Any public area. -Oh, wow. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
Keren and Shenae have decided I'm going to get to know this city | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
with some good old-fashioned retail therapy. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
Is it wrong that I'm going straight for the disgusting bright pink? | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
-Don't do it! -Poptastic! | 0:06:48 | 0:06:49 | |
Thank you! I'm feeling ready to go out now. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
Yeah, now we're ready. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:01 | |
I was having such a great girly day. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
But then on our way to the beach, we heard there had been violent attacks | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
by Islamic militants on a town just three hours away. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
Eight people were killed. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
'The bus attack was quickly followed by two more coordinated assaults. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:19 | |
'Within minutes, an anti-tank missile blasted a private car, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
'and a roadside bomb blew up Israeli soldiers | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
'on their way to help the bus victims.' | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
For me that's really scary. Does it not, in a way, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
put you off living here, that there is that, in as much as you've | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
got this like beautiful beach life, beautiful shopping, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
you've got that sinister side? | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
Just like anywhere else, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
you can, I don't know, get run over by a car. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
I don't think that it shortens my life that I live in Israel, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
because anything could happen anywhere. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
We grew up in this reality, so we kind of get to know it. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
It still shocks us every time, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
but we just know that we have to carry on. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
After a few drinks on the beach, it's not too hard to forget | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
about the threat of violence. But I don't know | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
if I could live with it every day, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
like young Israelis do. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
Today, I'm going to one of the most contentious places in Israel - | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
a Jewish settlement called Itamar. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
Earlier this year, a settler family was brutally murdered there. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
Two young Palestinians from a nearby village | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
were arrested for the killings. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
I've been invited because of my Jewish side, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
but, given my Arab side, I'm not sure what reception I'll get. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
Today... | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
..I'm going to have to swap all that | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
bright pink...fluffy stuff | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
for this body armour, | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
which is really weird. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:53 | |
In the space of two days in the same country, | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
that was yesterday, this is today. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
Settlers are Zionists who believe they have a sacred duty | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
to build communities everywhere in Israel - | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
on land that Palestinian Arabs say is theirs. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
Settlements are considered illegal under international law. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
Itamar is surrounded by Palestinian villages, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
deep in the heart of disputed territory. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
It's protected by the Israeli army and security is really tight. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
I'm meeting Rabbi Moshe Goldsmith, the mayor here. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
God gave us our homeland | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
and obviously the deed to the land is the Bible. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
We have right to return to our land and we have to work hard for it. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
Moshe shows me a memorial to young people killed in attacks | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
on the settlement. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
Gillard Stiglets, Avro Mushoff, Ceto Enshmal. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
All these boys from the school, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
these three were killed here on premises - these three boys. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
He looks so young... | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
They are, sure. They all were. Don't forget, they're up to | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
17 and 18 years old, each of these boys. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
This is very, very difficult tragedy. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
This is the price, a terrible price, Israel is paying | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
to be Israel, just to want to live. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
It's a bit strange. I think some members of my family, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
they wouldn't be allowed here, which is why I feel so uncomfortable. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
My dad would not be allowed here | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
and he'd be mistrusted, which is why it's really strange. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
But...I'm interested to find out more. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
I was really surprised and pleased when Moshe invited me to his home. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:32 | |
He's lived here since 1985, when the settlement was just | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
two rows of houses. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:36 | |
Now, over a thousand people live here. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
Moshe's daughter, Merav, is studying to be a make-up artist in Tel Aviv. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:48 | |
What's life like living here, for young people? Is it fun? | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
Yeah, I love it. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:52 | |
The world is upside down, everything, you know, is so mixed up. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:57 | |
And my head, like, hurts and I come here | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
and I feel peaceful, like, I feel like, "Ah, I'm so happy, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
"I'm so lucky to live here." It's kind of like a bubble. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:09 | |
'Like her mum and dad, Merav is very proud of being a settler.' | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
Here, it's exactly the heart of the land. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
And if someone, like... If you take a heart out of a person, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:22 | |
you can't live. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
I always say, everyone who lives in Israel is a settler. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
Moshe took me to the site of the horrific crime | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
that happened here nine months ago. The Fogel family lived here. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
Both parents and three of their children were murdered | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
on a Sabbath night, including a three-month-old baby. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
I can't begin to imagine what that must be like. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
'The two young Palestinian men arrested for the murders | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
'were from the village of Awarta, just across the valley.' | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
The daughter, Tamer, who was 12 years old, | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
she's the oldest daughter of the family, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
she escorted her friends, at around 10.15, out of the home. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
At that moment, one of the terrorists looked and they saw one | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
of the kids in the house, they ran into the house | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
and they locked the door from the inside, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
and they grabbed a hold of this boy and they cut his throat. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
Then they went into the next room and they killed another boy. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
They went into the parents' bedroom, and they first killed the father, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
then the mother came out, and they murdered the mother. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
They went out of the house, they heard the baby crying, | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
they went back in and they cut the throat of the little baby, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
they stabbed the baby. A little tiny baby about that big. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
The Fogels' daughter, Tamer, discovered the bodies | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
of her family when she came home. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
She ran out of the house, screaming, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
the whole community woke from her screams. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
And, unfortunately, we found this horrific story, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
this terrible bloodshed here. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
Two of the Fogels' little boys survived because they were asleep. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
Along with their sister, they don't live in Itamar any more. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
What did it make you think of the people who did it | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
in the village, that's just in sight of where we are? | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
It's almost hard for us to believe they could do something like that. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
More of disbelief. Like, how could human beings could come along | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
and, in such a cruel way, murder children, a family, on the Sabbath? | 0:13:12 | 0:13:17 | |
What would you say to people who would say that this is Palestine, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
this is the West Bank and so this is Palestinian territories? | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
I would say to them that the best seller of any book | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
in the world is the Bible - and the Bible is an outright history, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
the deed to the land of Israel for the Jewish people. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
Although I was shocked by the murders, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
I found Moshe's beliefs difficult to get my head round. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
I can't understand how, based on a book, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
you can feel you have a right to live in a land. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
It just doesn't make sense to me YET. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
But I couldn't stop thinking about the Fogel family. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
I'd love to know what my brother would say | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
about a child his daughter's age being stabbed in her cot. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
I don't know what he'd say about that because the loss of life | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
on either side is wrong and terrible, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
but that's just one side of that story. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
People are dead, that's a fact, but I'd like to speak to... | 0:14:14 | 0:14:20 | |
the other side, I'd like to hear what the other side had to say. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
If I can, later in my trip, I'm going to visit the Arab village | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
Moshe pointed out, so close across the valley to Itamar. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
But first, I want to find out about one defining feature | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
of Israeli life. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
Israeli citizens must join the army for two to three years | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
and it's an important shared experience for most young Jews here. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
Arab Israelis are exempted. They CAN volunteer, but it's rare. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
I meet a young lieutenant called Keren Hajioff. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
The Israel defence force has arranged for me | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
to spend the day with her in her flat, and tomorrow on her army base. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
There's a press officer with us all the time. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
THEY CONVERSE IN OWN LANGUAGE | 0:15:07 | 0:15:12 | |
He's got no basil! I mean, who doesn't have basil in their market?! | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
Keren was born and grew up in London, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
but two years ago she moved here on her own to join the army. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
In Israel, women serve on the frontline and in combat. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
I asked her what prompted such a huge decision. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
Israel is just such an important part of Judaism | 0:15:33 | 0:15:38 | |
and, I mean, there's so much of a reason to be here, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
so much of an importance as a person for me to be here | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
and I've never been this happy in my life | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
and I was a happy, spoilt little British girl in London. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
Then Keren gets a call - | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
there's been another attack by Islamic militants | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
in the south of Israel. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
There's been a rocket attack on a school in Be'er Sheva. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:04 | |
Which is where your base is? | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
Which is very close to my base. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
They told everyone in the area in the south of Israel | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
just to stay in shelters, not to leave the shelters | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
until further notice. Don't know how long that'll be. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
Does everyone have a shelter in their house? | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
That's how we have to live. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:24 | |
Even here, there's a shelter cos it's Israel which is... | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
We're threatened on a daily basis. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:29 | |
'Despite what had happened, Keren remained so upbeat | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
'about the army and Israel.' | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
I notice on your hand, is it a tattoo? | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
It's not actually a tattoo. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
I don't know why, I take a pen and draw the Star of David on my hand. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
Whenever I look at the watch, it's just like, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
"What's the time? Oh, it's time to, like, love Israel." I don't know! | 0:16:44 | 0:16:49 | |
She's British, she speaks with a British accent, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
she grew up in Britain, spent most of her life in Britain, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
and yet, to her, it sounds like this is home. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
And I find that so strange, cos for me, Britain is home. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
Cheers, guys. Thank you for... | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
'I meet Keren and her friends for a drink. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
'They're a close group, all Jewish and mainly from London, like Keren. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:11 | |
'Some live here, but three of the girls are on holiday.' | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
At home, we tend to live near each other, go to similar schools, camps, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
quite similar synagogues, so we do tend to mix. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
We're quite insular, I guess, without meaning to be | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
because of who's around. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:25 | |
I think that's one of the things that people our age | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
love about Israel - where you go, everyone's Jewish, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
you go to a club, and everyone's Jewish. It's just really nice. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
I found this idea strange. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
Maybe everyone THEY hang out with is Jewish | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
but that doesn't mean everyone in Israel is. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
We're driving to Keren's base in the far south. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
We'll be passing close to areas hit by the Islamic militant attacks, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
so I'm a bit nervous... | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
at first. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
Safety here is vital. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
Don't go in any area that I don't tell you to go. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
Make sure you stay with me the whole time. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
Shooting is something that every soldier has to go through. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
They need to know how to protect themselves. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
At the end of the day, we're an army | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
and we're here to defend a country and a people. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
So we're going to go now. Don't be scared, I'm with you! | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
Hold my hand, I've got you. It's fine. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
-OK, you ready? -Yes, I'm ready. -Amazing, let's go. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
Good afternoon, we are now going to do some shooting. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:42 | |
I will now give the order to fire! | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
SHE SHOUTS ORDERS | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
GUNFIRE | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
Check you are on safety, stand up. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
Hold your weapons at 60 degrees in the air. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
Ten out of ten! Well done! | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
-He got ten out of ten? -Yes. -Am I all right to take these off? -Yes. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
Everyone's stopped shooting. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
What about you? Eight out of ten for a girl - that is impressive! | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
You're a chauvinist. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
I'm not - I'm showing the world that women can do this too! | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
I thought, coming down here, that I would really want to have a go. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
I was really pumped, it's a once-in-a-lifetime thing. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
Seeing that, I definitely don't want to. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
And the thought of me as an 18-year-old being given a gun... | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
I hate to think. There's x amount of people standing within | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
arm's reach of me with deadly weapons. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
And I've never ever experienced that before. People my age. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
So that was quite weird. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
Keren brings me to try out an armoured personnel carrier. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
OK, hold onto everything, nothing falls off. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
And...there you go. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
The next step that's going to be brave of you, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
you have to put on a helmet. Put it on like this. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
-It doesn't fit on my head. -It does, you've just got to yank it. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:24 | |
-What happens if you've got a big hairstyle? -That's why you don't. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
-I'll hold onto it. -You can.. OK, hold onto it. I'll wear the helmet. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
I'd seriously have a freak-out. I'd freak out. It's so tight. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:40 | |
Do you know what's crazy? People our age have to sleep in this. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
I really doubt what I've experienced today | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
is what army life is actually like. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
'She's not just saying it, she clearly loves being here. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:54 | |
'But it just feels like propaganda.' | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
And I don't feel like I'm going to leave this place with any | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
better understanding of what it is that makes people come here | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
and give three years of their life to this army. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
Right now, if someone asked me, I wouldn't have a clue. I wouldn't. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:10 | |
I'm moving on to Jerusalem, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
the city at the heart of the conflict in Israel. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
It's a fascinating but divided place. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
Palestinians and Israelis both claim it's THEIR capital city. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
The different cultures and religions don't seem to mix - | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
East Jerusalem is Arab, and west is Israeli. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
It's also had some of the worst violence - | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
between 2000 and 2011, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:40 | |
there were over 40 attacks by Palestinian militants. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
The last one was nine months ago. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
Some of the most important religious sites in Judaism | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
and Islam are right beside each other here. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
I'm going to visit the Western Wall for my Jewish side | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
and the al-Aqsa Mosque for my Arab Muslim side. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
I'm not religious, | 0:22:02 | 0:22:03 | |
but I'm hoping that such spiritually important places might give me | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
a little taste of the faith people like my dad have. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:12 | |
But today, things go wrong from the start. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
Once again, what a surprise, I'm the only one stopped | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
as we all walk through and somebody from the crew has to say that | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
I'm with you, otherwise I'm not allowed through | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
because I have to be checked. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
What a surprise! | 0:22:26 | 0:22:27 | |
I am boiling, it's hot and I'm wearing respectable clothes | 0:22:27 | 0:22:32 | |
whilst loads of other people are wearing far less than me. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
I'm hot and bothered. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
Then I discover that the Western Wall is segregated. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:42 | |
Look at that - the men's wall has loads of space | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
and women get like a little section. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
As I approached the wall, I change my mind. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
I just don't want to be here. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:54 | |
Just doesn't mean anything to me | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
and in one sense feels a bit disrespectful to go. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
So I don't really want to, and do the whole walking backwards thing. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
And have to cover my hair. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
For most Jews, the wall is literally the holiest place they'll ever go. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
For me, that's all the more reason that dividing it up is wrong. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:16 | |
I moved on to visit al-Aqsa Mosque, the third holiest site in Islam. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:27 | |
But once again, I have problems from the start. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
This time, they won't even let me in. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
'He doesn't accept that I'm Muslim.' | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
The first thing it made me do was I went and called my dad. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
He's the most religious person I know. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
We've just tried to go into the al-Aqsa Mosque | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
but they won't let me in because they say I'm not Muslim. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
Is that normal? | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
My dad was like, "No, that's not what being a Muslim is about." | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
It's just been such a disappointing afternoon. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
The religion stuff is such bullshit. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
I know it's not religion itself, and blah, blah, blah... | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
but religion is bullshit. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
Being mixed race, sometimes, is really cool, | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
cos it means you have entry to more than just one culture. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
But sometimes it means you have entry to none. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
It's like you're all or nothing. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
And today it feels like... | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
I'm more nothing. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:42 | |
This is the barrier built by Israel, which separates itself | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
and the Palestinian region of the West Bank. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
It's hundreds of miles long. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
Most Palestinians can only travel through the barrier | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
with Israeli permission. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
I can't really imagine what it would be like that this is your view | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
out of your bedroom window every morning. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
Israelis say the barrier is for security | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
and prevents suicide bombers getting through. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
But Palestinians say Israel has used it to take control of land | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
and restrict their freedom. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
I've heard the Jewish take on Israel. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
Now, I want to hear from the other side, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
so I'm crossing the barrier line. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
Oh, I hate these things. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
'First, we have to pass through a checkpoint called Qalandia. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
'Checkpoints are controlled by the Israeli army | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
'and there's a lot of security.' | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
I feel completely caged in. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
It's tight and there's people trying to get through. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
Imagine rush hour - everyone trying to get to work, through there. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
I would not want to face a checkpoint every day of my life. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
Even being in there for two minutes, I feel pissed off. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
If I had to do that and I was running late for work | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
and I hadn't had time to do my make-up and I was trying to get | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
everything done as it is normally on a Monday morning, I would be livid. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:35 | |
Now we're in the West Bank, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
on the way to the Palestinian city of Ramallah. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
Crazy - just a half-hour drive | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
and you're in a completely different world. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
No Hebrew written down any more. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
My brother was here nine years ago, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
when the Israeli army launched a crackdown on Palestinian violence. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
It was a dangerous place then. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
I want to see what it's like today. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
Stars and bucks! | 0:27:15 | 0:27:16 | |
It's not at all what I expected. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
I'm already quite in love with this place. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
I feel really kind of connected to it in a way I haven't yet. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
I haven't been in this country and felt like, ah, I get this. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:29 | |
But I really get this, this is cool. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
This doesn't feel like Israel at all. At all. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:37 | |
Now that I'm seeing the West Bank as Palestinian, | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
it's strange to think that Itamar is in this area. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
I'm going back to visit Awarta, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
the village just across the valley from Itamar. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
The young Palestinians arrested for murdering the Fogel family came from here. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:01 | |
My first thought when I heard that was, what would drive somebody | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
to want to kill a child in a cot | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
and then, by the sounds of it, not feel any remorse. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
That's what I was told and kind of wanted to find out for myself | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
if that's what the feeling is. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
I had hoped to meet the families of the arrested men, | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
but when I arrive, they're too upset to talk to me. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
Instead, I meet a villager called Khalid, who knew the two young men. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:26 | |
He tells me what life is like here since the murders. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
Did you understand, after what happened, why the Israeli soldiers | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
came here and interrogated the villages, | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
because babies were killed, a baby was killed in its cot in this crime? | 0:28:36 | 0:28:41 | |
Khalid says, since the arrests, the villagers' movements | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
have been restricted. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
As tragic as what happened to the Fogels was, I'm wondering | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
if it's right that the whole village be punished. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
I think it's almost irrelevant | 0:29:17 | 0:29:18 | |
whether the people living in Itamar have a right to this land or not. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:23 | |
I think the real issue is... You can't... It's just not fair to have | 0:29:23 | 0:29:28 | |
one village on one side of the hill is gated off and has running water | 0:29:28 | 0:29:34 | |
and is relatively modern, and on the other side of the hill, | 0:29:34 | 0:29:39 | |
you've got dirt-track roads and people delivering water on a donkey. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:44 | |
Itamar and Awarta feel like they could be a million miles apart. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:50 | |
'Back in Ramallah, I'm meeting up with Zainab Musleh, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
'a Palestinian student who grew up here.' | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
She remembers Israeli soldiers in her home | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
during the crackdown nine years ago. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
We didn't go to school for two months or three months. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:07 | |
We were not able to go out of our houses. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
Israeli soldiers used to take our houses and live in them, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:14 | |
in the same house. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
'Zainab protests for Palestinian rights | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
'and has strong political beliefs about the conflict.' | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
Do you ever feel sorry for young people | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
perhaps living somewhere like Tel Aviv, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
a young girl, your age, who is worried about maybe suicide bombers? | 0:30:27 | 0:30:32 | |
Do you sympathise with that? | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
-No... -Why not? | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
Because when I see kids, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
when I see babies in Gaza getting killed for doing nothing, | 0:30:40 | 0:30:45 | |
when I see kids being... | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
in jails because of the Israeli occupation, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
I can't sympathise for those people. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
Do you find here that people are ever friends with Jewish people? | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
Of course, there are many. Jews are not bad, | 0:31:00 | 0:31:04 | |
not all Jews are bad, not all Jews are the same. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
'I wasn't prepared for Zainab's idea | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
'of how things could ultimately be resolved.' | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
So, what would you like to see happen? | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
Them going out of our country and returning to where they came from. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:20 | |
But, for some of them, they were born here. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
They were born here, | 0:31:24 | 0:31:25 | |
but they were born here as... | 0:31:25 | 0:31:29 | |
people who are occupying this country. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
Their fathers occupied us, killed us, their grandfathers. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
They came from all around the world, so they can go back. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
If the United States loves Israeli people this much, so give them, | 0:31:38 | 0:31:44 | |
they can give them shelter. US is very big. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:48 | |
It's bigger than here. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:49 | |
'I can't understand how Zainab could think that way.' | 0:31:53 | 0:31:57 | |
Saying that all Jews need to go to America because America likes them | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
is bullshit. Like, it's not going to work, | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
it's unworkable, it's unrealistic. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
And she also did that thing that so far has bugged me | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
about a lot of the Israeli Jews that I've met, | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
about talking about Jews as though it's "them". | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
And I understand that it comes with completely different experiences, | 0:32:15 | 0:32:19 | |
but it's just as ignorant as the other side of things | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
that I've been listening to. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
'Today is the last Friday of Ramadan and I'm going back | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
'to Qalandia checkpoint at the West Bank barrier | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
'to see a demonstration against Israeli restrictions.' | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
From what I've heard, these protests are really passionate | 0:32:38 | 0:32:45 | |
and people are really, kind of, even, like, violent at times. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
And so, in a way, I'm quite, kind of... It might sound wrong, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
but kind of excited to see a different type of demonstration. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:56 | |
'This is a very holy day, so Palestinians are queuing | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
'in the hope they'll be allowed to enter Jerusalem | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
'to pray in al-Aqsa mosque.' | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
'During Ramadan, the Israelis restrict access to men over 50 | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
'and women over 45. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
'This is the women's queue. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
'Many have been waiting here, in the hot sun, for hours.' | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
When Zainab was talking yesterday, my first reaction was, like, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
"Oh, it's the other side of the coin, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
"it's just as vengeful and hateful | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
"as the other side of the argument I've heard." | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
Seeing this today, I'm understanding exactly what she means. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
If I have to go through this, | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
just to go and do something that's part of my culture, | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
and you have people like Keren, who I met at the IDF base, | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
who talked about this being fun and loving it so much | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
and protecting her country... | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
She was born in Britain, her family were born in Britain, | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
Zainab's family have lived here for hundreds of years. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
This is not fair. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
There's no human exchange here, the way they're dealing with people. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
They're standing there, like, with guns that are loaded | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
whilst women and children walk past them. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
CALL TO PRAYER | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
'It's time for noon prayers, so these women are praying in the road. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:23 | |
'Once prayer's finished, the demonstration begins.' | 0:34:23 | 0:34:29 | |
The mood's completely changed within a couple of minutes. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
Kids are running around holding stones in their hands. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:38 | |
CHANTING | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
We're having to move completely out of the way. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
We've been advised to just move out of the crowd. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
CHANTING | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
Someone's just thrown a stone. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
Across at the soldiers. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
'Immediately after the first stone is thrown from the protesters, | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
'Israeli soldiers fire tear gas into the crowd.' | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
'It creates complete panic.' | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
SIRENS AND COUGHING | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
'The tear gas is really powerful and works so fast.' | 0:35:27 | 0:35:32 | |
My skin's just fucking burning, my eyes are burning. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
It's just fucked up...It's like... | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
REYA SNIFFS | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
CAR HORN HONKS | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
-MAN: -What happened? | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
You want some help? | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
What happened? | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
No, it's fine, thank you. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
I don't have a right to cry. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
I don't have to go through this at all. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
But it's like fucking kids, like, running along | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
being, like, tear-gassed, like, kids, like the same age as my niece, | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
like a kid that was about six or seven. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
'It's just total chaos here. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
'And it gets worse.' | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
SIRENS | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:36:20 | 0:36:21 | |
'Luckily, there was no-one in the back of the ambulance | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
'and no-one was seriously hurt. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
'I can't stop thinking about how most of the people there today | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
'could face the same thing next week.' | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
I'm not easily shocked | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
but I'm completely haunted by what I saw, | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
that will never leave me. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
Dealing with people like they're animals. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
'I want an explanation about what I saw at the checkpoint. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
'The Israeli Defence Force agrees to give me | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
'an interview with a senior press officer.' | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
Two stones were thrown as far as I saw. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
And the response, immediately, was that a tear gas canister | 0:37:05 | 0:37:09 | |
was fired into a crowd of people which included me, | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
other press, which included old women, old men, | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
people with children, babies | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
and also soldiers who didn't have tear gas masks on. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
Why was there no warning? | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
Our experience shows us that when we use, | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
when we don't use that immediately, | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
then the stones increase in their number... | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
But why was there no warning given before they were thrown? | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
Was there a warning for the protest? I don't think so. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
'I tried to explain how it felt on the other side of the barrier.' | 0:37:35 | 0:37:41 | |
It still, to me, felt as though I was going into a different world, | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
where, all of a sudden, people with guns were shouting at me and... | 0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | |
Well, how would you protect yourself? Tell me... | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
I mean, I can tell you as an Israeli, forget the uniform. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:56 | |
I'm a mother of three children. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
Between the years 2000 and 2006, I forbade them from going to malls, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:03 | |
from using public transportation, | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
or even walking along on the streets without me. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
Imagine 1,000 people, amongst them Arab Israelis, | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
that were killed only from suicide bombers, | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
in restaurants, in coffee places, in malls, in buses. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:20 | |
You have to understand where we're coming from | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
with the security situation here. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
'I appreciated the chance to put my questions to the IDF | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
'but it didn't change my opinion of what happened at the checkpoint.' | 0:38:30 | 0:38:34 | |
If the same happened in Britain after the suicide attacks | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
and I was stopped from moving around | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
because my dad happened to be Muslim, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
and told, "You can't travel to London any more | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
"because there've been suicide attacks." | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
There might not be any attacks afterwards | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
but why should my freedom be curtailed? | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
I'm a human being, I have just as much right to freedom | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
as her and her kids. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
'I haven't yet had that moment of feeling connected to Israel | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
'that people have told me about. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
'I still feel like an outsider. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
'But I've managed to track down distant relatives | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
'of my Jewish mum's family here in Jerusalem. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
'My second cousins. Maybe they'll give me some connection here. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:19 | |
'But there's a lot at stake.' | 0:39:19 | 0:39:20 | |
This could be quite life changing, if we find | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
the first part of our family that actually live here, | 0:39:22 | 0:39:27 | |
and I get on with them, it could mean the rest of my family | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
coming out here and spending time with them. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
So, yeah, I am nervous about this one. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
I feel like I've dressed like a nun, | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
schoolgirl, first day at school. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
'My cousin's name is Amir Levin. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
'He and his wife, Efrat, have three young children | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
'and live in a suburb of Jerusalem.' | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
Thank you! These are for you to say thank you for inviting me. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
Thanks a lot. | 0:39:57 | 0:39:58 | |
It's a very small thing but thanks so much for welcoming me here. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
'Amir and Efrat made me feel really welcome.' | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
London, I was born, and then moved to Oxford when I was, oh, how old? | 0:40:04 | 0:40:11 | |
About five. And lived in Oxford ever since. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
It's lovely there, good excuse for you to come and visit and see it! | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
-I loved Oxford. -What were you doing there? | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
Just touring. But it's so beautiful. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
Yeah, it's lovely. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
'I could see a real resemblance between Amir and my mum!' | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
It's not a very good picture of her, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
she'll probably be very unhappy with me showing that. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
That's her with her champagne and the dog. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
-I want to see your mother. -Let me show you! | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
What does she do? | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
She worked in publishing. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
'Amir showed me old photos of our family. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
'His great-great grandfather and my great-great uncle | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
'was Shamaryahu Levin, | 0:40:51 | 0:40:52 | |
'one of the early leaders of the movement | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
'that led to the founding of Israel. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
'It's amazing to think I'm connected | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
'to someone so significant to the history of this country.' | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
His eyes look so much like my mum's eyes, it's really weird! | 0:41:02 | 0:41:06 | |
'Amir explained that Jerusalem in particular | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
'is not always an easy place to raise a family.' | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
Here you see the conflict, it's everywhere, every day, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:23 | |
and it doesn't always feel very nice. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
We have many similar problems, like many other places in the world | 0:41:26 | 0:41:31 | |
but what's different is that we live very close to an "enemy," | 0:41:31 | 0:41:37 | |
mixed up with them, | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
everyday life, you feel the danger, you know, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
my daughter, we thought to let her use the bus, | 0:41:44 | 0:41:49 | |
and just now happened to be a terror attack somewhere. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
And then I'm saying, "No, I'll take her, I'll drive her." | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
So it's always... | 0:41:57 | 0:41:58 | |
and how do you explain to a little child not to make him hate Arabs | 0:41:58 | 0:42:04 | |
but to be aware that it's very complicated? | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
'Meeting the Levins gave me a different insight on Israel | 0:42:11 | 0:42:16 | |
'and we make plans to stay in touch. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
'I wish my mum could have been here.' | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
It does make you reassess things. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
It's funny how as soon as it's your family, | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
even if it is family I've only just met, | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
as soon as your family are the ones being in any way attacked | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
it, kind of, changes what you think | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
and how you feel about the situation. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
So yeah... | 0:42:36 | 0:42:37 | |
'Walking down these streets in Jerusalem, | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
'the thought is never far away that a bomb might go off. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
'Between 2000 and 2006 there were 25 suicide bomb attacks | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
'by Palestinians in Jerusalem. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
'187 people died and hundreds more were injured. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:02 | |
'Avigayil Spero is a Jewish Israeli girl, | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 | |
'who amazingly lived through four separate bomb attacks | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
'before she was 22.' | 0:43:08 | 0:43:09 | |
Nice to meet you. I'm Reya. How you doing? | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
'Avigayil moved to Israel from the US with her family | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
'when she was eight | 0:43:17 | 0:43:18 | |
'because her father wanted to live in the Jewish homeland. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
'Eight years later, Avigayil was on her way home from school one day | 0:43:21 | 0:43:25 | |
'when a triple suicide bombing happened just here.' | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
There was this huge blast, | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
and it hits me, | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
and I go flying against the wall. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:38 | |
There were a few moments of just deafening, deafening silence, | 0:43:39 | 0:43:42 | |
the silence of death, | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
and then, immediately afterwards, panic. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:49 | |
Everyone started running towards the opposite direction | 0:43:49 | 0:43:52 | |
and people were screaming and running all over the place. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:56 | |
That was the only bombing in which I saw the body | 0:43:56 | 0:43:59 | |
of the suicide bomber. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:00 | |
But the interesting thing was, | 0:44:02 | 0:44:04 | |
was that his head just... popped off like a champagne cork | 0:44:04 | 0:44:09 | |
and it was a few good metres away from him | 0:44:09 | 0:44:13 | |
and his head was in complete tact, | 0:44:13 | 0:44:15 | |
he had gel in his hair and it was in perfect condition, his head, | 0:44:15 | 0:44:22 | |
but his body was completely fucked up. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:25 | |
'Five people were killed and 181 injured in the bombing. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:30 | |
'Avigayil witnessed a second Palestinian suicide bomb attack | 0:44:30 | 0:44:34 | |
'near here but wasn't hurt. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:36 | |
'A couple of years later she was caught up in yet another attack.' | 0:44:36 | 0:44:41 | |
I didn't realise that I was injured for a while | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
because of the adrenaline, I didn't feel pain yet, at that point, | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
but I started feeling something drip down my face | 0:44:47 | 0:44:50 | |
and I looked down and I see blood all over my clothes | 0:44:50 | 0:44:54 | |
and that's when I realised that I was injured. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:56 | |
Some people tell me, "You're lucky. God is looking out for you." | 0:44:56 | 0:45:00 | |
So what kind of God would subject me to this in the first place? | 0:45:00 | 0:45:05 | |
Avigayil lost her job after that attack. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
She now works as a trainer for rescue dogs, like Jimmy. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:11 | |
Although the attacks deeply affected her, | 0:45:11 | 0:45:13 | |
I'm amazed at the outlook she now has on them. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
People just want to live their lives at the end of the day. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
And the Palestinians, a lot of the Palestinians, | 0:45:21 | 0:45:25 | |
have been robbed of a lot of their basic freedoms and rights, | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
not only by the Israelis, by the way, also by their own government. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:34 | |
But I can understand where they are coming from, | 0:45:34 | 0:45:38 | |
I can understand their anger. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:39 | |
That's amazing, that sense of kind of having compassion | 0:45:40 | 0:45:45 | |
is something that I've been looking for since coming here, | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
and one of the things that I've experienced since being here is the wall that was set up, | 0:45:47 | 0:45:52 | |
and heard a lot of people say that Israel is a safer place because of that wall. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:58 | |
It is, and that's a fact, and I have mixed feelings about the wall, | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
but the effectiveness of the wall | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
has proven itself over the years. It's indisputable. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:08 | |
'Like meeting the Levins, meeting Avigayil has given me | 0:46:08 | 0:46:11 | |
'a new understanding of the Israeli side of this conflict.' | 0:46:11 | 0:46:15 | |
I think she's a really amazing person. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:17 | |
I don't know, hand on heart, that I could say if the same thing happened to me | 0:46:17 | 0:46:22 | |
if I would be so...progressive in my thoughts | 0:46:22 | 0:46:26 | |
and not fall into that trap of blaming a group of people | 0:46:26 | 0:46:30 | |
where, in a country like this, | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
it seems like the easiest thing to do when anything goes wrong. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
Despite the current tensions, we've been given the OK | 0:46:40 | 0:46:42 | |
by our security advisors to go to Gaza, | 0:46:42 | 0:46:45 | |
one of the most dangerous places in the Middle East. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:48 | |
I'll get to see life there and speak to a young Hamas activist. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:53 | |
There's a real risk of being attacked or kidnapped | 0:46:53 | 0:46:55 | |
by Islamic extremists, so we only have a window of a few hours. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:59 | |
When I spoke to people, I realised that to really understand this place, I had to visit. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:10 | |
So no second thoughts at all, but... | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
..I am feeling a little bit panicky. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:20 | |
Gaza is a tiny Palestinian area on the southern tip of Israel. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
Over a million Palestinians live there. It's completely fenced in, | 0:47:25 | 0:47:29 | |
and Israel tightly restricts access for both people and supplies. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:34 | |
But inside Gaza, the militant Islamic group Hamas are in control. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:40 | |
America, Europe and Israel consider Hamas to be terrorists. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:45 | |
By closing off Gaza, Israel wants to isolate Hamas | 0:47:45 | 0:47:48 | |
and stop rocket attacks on Israeli towns. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:51 | |
We're just about to arrive at the border. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:56 | |
We have to get out of the car and walk across. We can't drive. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
And our Israeli producer can't come with us | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
because Israelis aren't allowed across this border, | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
so it's just us, the film crew, walking through. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:09 | |
'We're not allowed to film inside the checkpoint.' | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
We've just come through the border into Gaza, | 0:48:22 | 0:48:24 | |
and it's literally like a rat-run. | 0:48:24 | 0:48:26 | |
A ten minute walk through a caged kind of walkway. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:32 | |
We have to travel with the local BBC producer | 0:48:33 | 0:48:36 | |
in a bulletproof car at all times for security. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:40 | |
Already, through driving into Gaza for less than five minutes, | 0:48:40 | 0:48:44 | |
I can already see such a stark difference | 0:48:44 | 0:48:47 | |
to everything I've experienced so far since being here. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:50 | |
There's graffiti on every single wall we pass by. | 0:48:56 | 0:48:59 | |
We're heading for Jabaliya Refugee Camp. It's a stronghold of Hamas. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:04 | |
It's hard to believe this is still part of Israel. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:08 | |
But the person I was supposed to meet has been arrested this morning. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:13 | |
I still want to explore and try to speak to someone else. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:16 | |
Lots of people out on the streets, | 0:49:17 | 0:49:19 | |
young people out on the streets, by the looks of it. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:22 | |
There are not enough schools or teachers here, | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
so children can only attend school in shifts. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
As soon as we get out of the car in Jabaliya, we have an audience. | 0:49:28 | 0:49:33 | |
-Hello! -Hello! -Goodbye. -Goodbye. -Hello. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:37 | |
Mohammed. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
Mohammed? | 0:49:44 | 0:49:46 | |
Hello, Mohammed. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:47 | |
CHILDREN GIGGLE | 0:49:47 | 0:49:49 | |
That's one way to get the kids to go! | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
HE SPEAKS HIS OWN LANGUAGE | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
'We get an invitation from this little boy to visit his home. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
'It's not part of our plan, | 0:50:01 | 0:50:03 | |
'but we're going to take a chance that it's safe.' | 0:50:03 | 0:50:06 | |
Such small spaces. Hello, nice to meet you. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:15 | |
-How are you? -Very well, how are you? | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
-My name is Eman. -Reya. I'm Reya. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
-Lovely to meet you. -Where are you from? -England. From England. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:30 | |
We come. This is my home. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:33 | |
'This is Eman. She was born in Jabaliya | 0:50:33 | 0:50:36 | |
'and shares this house with seven other members of her family.' | 0:50:36 | 0:50:39 | |
'I can't believe eight people live here.' | 0:50:42 | 0:50:45 | |
-Excuse me, I speak little English. -Your English is good. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
My Arabic is not. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:07 | |
Eman tells me one of her brothers was killed by the Israeli army. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:11 | |
He's now regarded as a martyr. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:13 | |
Eman describes how the children are affected by the violence they've grown up with. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:18 | |
-They play games of being an Israeli and a Palestinian? -Yes. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
Can you ask him what he wants to be when he grows up? | 0:51:25 | 0:51:29 | |
'Our local producer is worried we've been in one place for too long, | 0:51:40 | 0:51:44 | |
'so we have to leave.' | 0:51:44 | 0:51:45 | |
I asked a 12-year-old, "What do you want to be when you grow up?" "A fighter." | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
And she was talking about when he sleeps at night, | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
he dreams about the Israelis breaking in and trying to kill him. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:57 | |
And he was 12, and he looked about eight! He was tiny. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:03 | |
We head to a place called Beit Hanoun. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
It's closer to the Israeli side, | 0:52:06 | 0:52:09 | |
and I can see signs of fighting with the Israeli army. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:11 | |
This building on the left here with all the holes in... | 0:52:14 | 0:52:17 | |
-is that bullet holes? -Yes. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
Oh, my God. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:24 | |
I would not want to live here. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:30 | |
If I was given the choice of living in Tel Aviv | 0:52:30 | 0:52:32 | |
where you can get your nails done | 0:52:32 | 0:52:34 | |
or relax on the beach with a Mojito, | 0:52:34 | 0:52:38 | |
and go shopping and clubbing and all the rest of it, | 0:52:38 | 0:52:41 | |
or you can live in the middle of a rubbish tip, | 0:52:41 | 0:52:46 | |
with bullet holes in your front door, I know which one I'd prefer. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:50 | |
But then they've not got the choice here to make that decision, so... | 0:52:50 | 0:52:54 | |
it's this or nothing. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
'Despite the terrible poverty, parts of Gaza | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
'are still much livelier and busier than I expected. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:03 | |
'But everywhere I look there are Hamas flags and graffiti. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:07 | |
'You can see just how strong the political opinion is here. | 0:53:07 | 0:53:11 | |
'I'd still like to talk to young people about the politics. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
'A young guy called Karim approaches us. He's a Hamas supporter. | 0:53:14 | 0:53:17 | |
'I ask him how he feels about Israel.' | 0:53:17 | 0:53:21 | |
Young Israelis say this is their country, | 0:53:28 | 0:53:30 | |
they have the right to live here. What do you think? | 0:53:30 | 0:53:33 | |
We're running out of time in Gaza. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:58 | |
We have to get back before the checkpoint closes. | 0:53:58 | 0:54:01 | |
If I had to live in this kind of condition, | 0:54:01 | 0:54:04 | |
under these rules, I wouldn't be saying, | 0:54:04 | 0:54:06 | |
"Oh, I want peace and to hold hands and skip around a campfire." | 0:54:06 | 0:54:10 | |
I'd be a 12-year-old saying that when I grow up | 0:54:10 | 0:54:14 | |
I want to be a fighter. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:16 | |
I do understand why for Israel this is like a real threat, | 0:54:16 | 0:54:20 | |
this place is their enemy on their doorstep, | 0:54:20 | 0:54:24 | |
and I don't know what the answer is, but this is not it. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:28 | |
Making over a million people live in an open prison is not the answer. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:32 | |
I'm coming to the end of my time in Israel | 0:54:39 | 0:54:42 | |
and feel like this experience has really opened my eyes | 0:54:42 | 0:54:45 | |
to the conflict that runs right through the heart of my family. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:48 | |
It's such a complicated place | 0:54:52 | 0:54:54 | |
and it seems everyone has an opinion about what should be done. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:57 | |
Being both Jewish and Muslim really highlighted some of the problems | 0:55:00 | 0:55:04 | |
and inequalities in the country to me. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:06 | |
There is absolutely no integration in this country, | 0:55:06 | 0:55:10 | |
and particularly coming from Britain where I think, | 0:55:10 | 0:55:14 | |
despite all our problems, when it comes to integration, we're good. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:18 | |
But this thing of living completely separate lives within one society, | 0:55:22 | 0:55:27 | |
and everyone is so separated, just isn't going to... | 0:55:27 | 0:55:31 | |
it's not going to end up well. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:33 | |
Hello...? | 0:55:36 | 0:55:38 | |
-Hello! -Hey! Puppy! | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
-Hey, Dad, how are you doing? -Fine. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:45 | |
'It's strange to be home and look back at everything | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
'I experienced and how it's changed me.' | 0:55:48 | 0:55:50 | |
-Can I have a Mum cup of tea, please? -Yes, of course you can! | 0:55:50 | 0:55:56 | |
'A little side of me thought before going out to Israel' | 0:55:56 | 0:55:59 | |
that I would go there and I would figure out the answer | 0:55:59 | 0:56:02 | |
to the conflict and I'd be able to save the world and fly the flag, | 0:56:02 | 0:56:05 | |
and the whole country would be renamed Reya's Land, | 0:56:05 | 0:56:09 | |
and that's not going to happen. The more time I spent there, | 0:56:09 | 0:56:12 | |
the more difficult and complex | 0:56:12 | 0:56:14 | |
and complicated I realised this issue is. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:17 | |
But that's because it's people. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:20 | |
And I don't know whether there is a simple answer. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:23 | |
But I definitely feel like having the experience that I've had | 0:56:23 | 0:56:26 | |
has opened my eyes to different people's perspectives | 0:56:26 | 0:56:30 | |
and to walk a day in other people's shoes, | 0:56:30 | 0:56:33 | |
and that's where, if anywhere, | 0:56:33 | 0:56:35 | |
that's where the conflict's going to come to begin to be resolved. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:40 | |
Maybe I could save the Middle East yet. | 0:56:40 | 0:56:42 | |
Reya's Land could be the newest nation to be born! | 0:56:42 | 0:56:46 | |
Yeah... | 0:56:47 | 0:56:49 | |
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