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-Welcome, Jeff Leach! -APPLAUSE | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Jeff Leach, and I am a whore. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:16 | |
I'm the stopover guy, I'm the affair. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
I'm the one night of passion, I'm the night of adventure. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
Have a look around this room. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
This is the number of people that I have slept with. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
I'm the kind of guy who has sex in the toilet | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
-after a gig, with a stranger. -LAUGHTER | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
Hey, you're laughing it up lady | 0:00:35 | 0:00:36 | |
but it could be you tonight, you know, so... | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
# Baby, I've got a lot of love to give. # | 0:00:38 | 0:00:43 | |
'I'm a ladies' man and, to be honest, a pretty successful one.' | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
I've had sex with more than my height in women. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
'Sometimes sleeping with them at a rate of over ten a week.' | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
I don't know the number of people you've been with... | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
It's over 300. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:57 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
'But now I'm on a mission to change. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
'I want to see if I can handle a committed relationship.' | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
It's an unattractive quality to be a slag. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
'I need to find out where I have been going wrong.' | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
Do you think I ever showed a vulnerability when I was with you? | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
-No. -No? | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
'So I'm going to ask my exes, | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
'with the help of my spreadsheet of past lovers.' | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
-I've got rid of drink and drugs Jeff. -Good, he was a dickhead. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
'Hopefully, I'll learn some home truths...' | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
I don't want to say you're selfish but I think you are. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
'..and get to grips with my problem...' | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
This process is proving to be a lot more difficult | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
than I thought it would be. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
'..to find out if I can ever become a one woman man.' | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
What's wrong with me?! | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
# I get all the girls, I get all the girls. # | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
It's the sexy room! | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
Hey, guy, where are we? We're in the sexy room. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
'I'm Jeff, I am 27-years-old | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
'and when it comes to the fairer sex, I simply can't say no.' | 0:01:56 | 0:02:01 | |
Sexy. You know! | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
Well, we've got candle and soaps, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
so at least were smell nice and be clean in the morning, good times. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
Little bit bloody vain that Jeff Leach... | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
Arrogant, actually! | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
He's fucking arr... Look at him! Who does he think he is?! | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
Bottom half of Russell Brand, you know, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
top half of a skinny Danny Dyer... | 0:02:22 | 0:02:23 | |
-Overall look of a gothic Tintin. -LAUGHTER | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
You'd think with my track record with the ladies I'd be happy... | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
but I'm not. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:32 | |
At the end of the night, most people would go home. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
Jump on the tube, get in their car, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
go to their abode to see loved ones, but some people are always left. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
For instance, look, this lovely group of people over here. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
Two ladies, a gentleman, hanging out enjoying each other's company. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
Why do I feel the need to view it completely differently? | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
Why do I not see what everyone else sees? | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
You want to know what I see? I'll show you. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
This is how I actually see the world. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
Look, the guys aren't even here. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
They don't even register on my psyche. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
The ladies are all semi-clad because I'm seeing every single one of them | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
as a potential sexual adventure. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
How you doing, you all right? | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
It makes me miserable, it tires me out, it makes me feel vacuous | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
and shallow, and ultimately, very lonely. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
Now I'm moving towards 30, my friends are getting married | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
and settling down. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:29 | |
I'm realising that I can't go on like this forever. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
Please can we have a warm welcome for the very funny Jeff Leach, everybody! | 0:03:33 | 0:03:38 | |
'In my profession there's just too many opportunities to meet women.' | 0:03:38 | 0:03:43 | |
You all right? How's it going? | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
CHEERING | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
You lot are brilliant. Look at all your happy faces. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
Oh, you were looking at my face on the cards. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
This is the real thing, baby! | 0:03:53 | 0:03:54 | |
You all right? That's for when you go home | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
and you're laying next to your boyfriend | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
and go "Hmmm, let's get that card out. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
"That's what it's all about." | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
You've slept with a lot of my friends. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
-Not a lot. -Within her world. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
-Not a lot. -More than most. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
-More than most of her friends, so that's almost all. -Four. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
Cos this is part of our world, isn't it? | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
Girls are attracted to you because you're a funny comic. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
You spend so much time being that for this specific 20 minutes, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
they're attracted to that, which isn't real. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
It's this illusion that you build and make really good. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
-Who am I? -Yeah. -That's what I need to work out. Who am I? Am I a whore? | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
Maybe the performance is what people expect of me. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
They expect a whore so I give it. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:42 | |
'So will I ever be able to leave this sex-fuelled lifestyle behind | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
'and manage to commit to one girl? | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
'Who better to ask than my ex lovers? | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
'And with the embarrassing total of 300 plus...' | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
Oh, it's ex-directory, is it? | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
'..maybe it's just as well that I've kept note of them all. Yeah, keeping a list, how classy(!)' | 0:04:58 | 0:05:04 | |
When I started having full proper sex with ladies, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
I wrote the names of the girls that I'd slept with on a piece of paper, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
probably to show off a little bit. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
It was, like, "Yeah, look at me, I'm a real man." | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
And then I started to input that information | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
into an Excel spreadsheet. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:19 | |
'They range from fleeting encounters | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
'to two year very open relationships, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
'spread across the world.' | 0:05:24 | 0:05:25 | |
There's no scores, there's no ratings, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
it's nothing like, "This girl was a five out of five" or whatever. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
It's not that crass. It was simply a way of documenting | 0:05:31 | 0:05:36 | |
every single woman that I'd ever slept with. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
I kind of have this long list now. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
'With a list of more than 300, where better to start | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
'than with my first true love.' | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
So this is Amy, my first love. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
I was 19 and I was living in New Zealand, working at a radio station | 0:05:50 | 0:05:55 | |
and she was one of the top DJs at this radio station | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
and it was love at first sight really. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
Thanks to the magic of the internet, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:03 | |
everyone is just a quick Facebook search away. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
She lives in Doha. Where is Doha? | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
Getting back in touch with someone who represents | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
so much pain seems like madness but I need answers. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
She will certainly have things of a critical and negative nature to say about me, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
but hopefully, some positive things as well, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
and also she'll be able to talk about what she thinks | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
I'm capable of in the future. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:28 | |
I did have my heart broken by my first love, right? | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
So badly, right? | 0:06:33 | 0:06:34 | |
I was on my knees at 2.30 in the afternoon | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
as people were going for their lunch break in Auckland | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
and I'm crying my eyes out, crying so hard, begging her | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
not to leave me, that I can't form words or sentences any more. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
HE SOBS UNCONTROLLABLY | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
What? | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
"You deserved it." | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
(SOBBING) Why are you leaving me?! | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
Crying so hard that the snot from my nose and the spit | 0:07:04 | 0:07:10 | |
from my mouth had joined together in a bungee cord of pure misery. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:15 | |
One of those heartbreaks. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
Women, can I say, like, I am probably a whore | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
because I am terrified of you, I am terrified of you! | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
So I printed out my list... | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
and I'd like to kind of place them upon a blank canvas | 0:07:39 | 0:07:44 | |
so I can look at the reality of what I'm letting myself in for. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
That looks all right. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
That's probably about double the average amount for a man | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
of my age, an idiot of my age. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
That's me being selfish and greedy. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
Page three. That's six men's allowance of ladies | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
that I have pathetically worked my way through. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
'There have been the odd occasions I've been a naughty boy, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
'but on the whole, I practice safe sex.' | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
So it's literally, I've had sex with more than my height in women, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:23 | |
It's like a pendulum of sexual misery. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
Doesn't even want to move. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
Just like most of my relationships didn't want to move. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
Part of me is mildly proud of it. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
The human part of me... thinks I'm a bell end. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:45 | |
Why would one person need to sleep with that many women? | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
Hopefully, I'll find out. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
# Tell me have you ever really Really, really ever loved a woman? # | 0:08:53 | 0:09:00 | |
Apparently, the average British man has had 13 sexual partners, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
and women just 7. I'm pretty much off the scale. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:09 | |
The realisation I've have had is that my attitude towards sex | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
and the way I behave is just not normal. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
You know, having sex with a 57-year-old woman | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
just because she gave you a lift home after a comedy gig | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
is not how normal people behave. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
You know, jumping out of a window after having sex with a young lady | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
because you realise you freaked out at the prospect | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
of having sex with four or five woman that day is not normal. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
Being late for meetings at work because you have to self-romance | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
for that third time in a row is not normal | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
and ultimately, once it starts going from 10s to 20s to 50s | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
to hundreds upon hundreds of women, you got to face up to the reality and sort yourself out. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:47 | |
'So my journey begins. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
'I'm going to meet Nicola, number 161 on my spreadsheet.' | 0:09:52 | 0:09:57 | |
You sort of knew me when I was very much still in my selfish behaviour. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:04 | |
I remember I was DJ-ing at that point in a festival, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:09 | |
-summer break festival. -Yeah, in Newquay. -In Newquay. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
Basically, living a life of debauchery | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
including picking up 19-year-old student girls on the beach. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:20 | |
Yep. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:21 | |
-I imagine I was a bit of an arse. -You were. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
-Cos I wasn't... I was quite selfish at that time. -Very selfish. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
-You made me very uncomfortable. -Really? | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
On many occasions, yeah. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:31 | |
Jeff did what Jeff wanted to do so Jeff wanted to have sex, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
and Jeff had sex. Twice now, you've just followed me into the toilet | 0:10:35 | 0:10:40 | |
and you'd just lock the door and, like, it's very attractive | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
because the girls... Generally, if you like a bad boy, you like that, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
but no other man had the balls to follow me to the toilet. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
What happens if I screamed? You would come in and look the door. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
I've had a lot of sex in toilet cubicles, ladies and gentlemen, I won't lie to you. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:59 | |
In fact, I've had so much sex in ladies' toilets, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
I started getting in trouble with the management for turning up late, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:07 | |
"I don't work here!" | 0:11:07 | 0:11:08 | |
"Why are you handing out hand towels?" | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
"I like to clear up my own mess!" | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
I don't know the number of people you've been with but... | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
-It's over 300. -Oh, my God. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
Does that shock you? | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
I'm not shocked because it's you, but that is a huge amount. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
Really? Is that not normal? | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
No, Jeff it's not, it's just not normal. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:35 | |
But why do you... Why? | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
Because I'm not that bothered. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
Loneliness I think, looking for affection. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
But sex does not replace a relationship. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
I use to make it very much, "You're here to fill in some time for me." | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
-Which is awful, isn't it? -That's horrible. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
-I know. -It makes me feel like a... That's horrible to hear. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:55 | |
None of the girls I've ever slept with have just been a number. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
Yeah, but they have, haven't they, though? There's 300, you know. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:04 | |
You can't be emotionally connected to all of them, it's impossible. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
Yeah, you're right, but that doesn't necessarily mean | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
that they're also just a number, like a tick on the box. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
Well, what are they, then? Experience for you? | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
-Yeah, momentary experiences of feeling. -What about her? | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
What about me? What about girls? | 0:12:20 | 0:12:21 | |
Well, that's why I'm doing this. That's why you're here! | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
"I don't want you to feel guilty but what about me?! | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
"OK? You bastard!" | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
This is getting angry! | 0:12:29 | 0:12:30 | |
I'm sorry, I'm sorry! Yeah, you're right, your right. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:36 | |
'Well, Nicola didn't pull too many punches, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
'but perhaps none of it's that wide of the mark.' | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
I've had sex in a bar down there, rock and roll bar, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
in the toilets there. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:52 | |
I've had sex in some offices there, in the toilet, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
someone I used to work with. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:56 | |
I've had sex in Carnaby Street with three different women. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
I've had sex in the toilets there. Once, actually in the toilets, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
once, behind the DJ booth, that's fucked up. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
I don't want to die on my own or surrounded by lots of women | 0:13:06 | 0:13:12 | |
that I have absolutely no genuine committed... | 0:13:12 | 0:13:17 | |
monogamous relationship with. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
And I also want to be a dad. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:21 | |
Who is going to what to have a kid by a complete slag? | 0:13:21 | 0:13:26 | |
I'm starting to see how limiting my lifestyle has become. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
No matter how hard it is, I need to make this process work. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
No-one wants to bump into their exes. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
The whole premise of this show is I'm actively seeking out people that | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
might have quite a negative view of the end of a relationship that | 0:13:40 | 0:13:46 | |
I was in and I'm going to try and see as many of those as possible. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
It's like everyone's worst nightmare really, isn't it? | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
Except I'm embracing it. I live for the nightmare! | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
'This next girl is my longest "relationship." | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
'We hooked up every few weeks or so over a period of two years.' | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
-Hello. -Hey, you all right? | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
-How you doing? -Great, thank you. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
'Number 207, Claire.' | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
It's weird, isn't it? | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
Yeah. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
-You got a coffee. -Thanks. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
-How you doing? -I'm all right, thank you. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
I've probably slept with almost 300 women or so now. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
SHE CLAPS | 0:14:21 | 0:14:22 | |
No, no, I'm not looking for an applause. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
I don't see this as a positive thing. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
-I see this as, like, a problem. -Hm. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
Because, like you say, people don't go, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
"Oh, yeah, you're a guy I can definitely settle down with" | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
-because they go "No, no, you're a massive man slag." -That's really sad. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
-It is! -It is quite sad. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
Yeah, which is why I'm doing this bloody programme | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
because I want to get to the heart of it a little bit. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
Imagine you're talking to one of your mates who doesn't know me. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
They went "Oh, what was Jeff Leach? | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
"What was that whole thing about, you and him?" | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
I would just talk about sex probably. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
Sex? So it was just sex-based really for the most part. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
I mean, there's part of me... Obviously, there's the very red-blooded, male part of me, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
the old school Neanderthal that's going, "Oh, yes, good at sex, thank you very much." | 0:15:06 | 0:15:11 | |
And there's the other part of me that's the hopeless romantic | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
that's going, "I was nothing more than a penis to you." | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
I am that stopover guy. The guy you have in-between a proper boyfriend | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
and another proper boyfriend. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
For instance, if you have some shoes and they break, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
you don't walk around barefoot for a week | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
before you buy another nice pair of shoes. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
You know you've got that pair of slutty heels you can throw on. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
I am those slutty heels. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:36 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
I didn't think you'd be able to...um...be good boyfriend | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
or whatever and I didn't want to go there. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
So it was like, "I like you more then friends but I don't want to be in a relationship with you." | 0:15:45 | 0:15:50 | |
-I just didn't want to be in a relationship with you. -Yeah... Oh, "With me"? | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
Well, this is what I want to find out. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
This is what this whole thing is about. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
It's about how do people um... | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
view the prospect of a relationship with me | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
and will I ever be able to have a committed relationship? | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
I don't know. I wouldn't think you would...but I don't know. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:11 | |
-Be capable of changing? -Yes. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
Well, I don't think I'd be able to satisfy you as a girlfriend | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
and keep your attention and stuff like that and also, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
if you cheated on me or anything, it would destroy me so I just wouldn't. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
-Yeah, so it's easier not to run that risk? -Yeah. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
Yeah, I get that. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:30 | |
That was upsetting to feel like "How many opportunities have I had of that in the past?" | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
Where women have gone "Rather then tell him that I like him | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
"to that extent, I'd rather just push him away | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
"in order to protect myself." | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
'Clearly, I am long way off boyfriend material. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
'What is the secret? | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
'I am going to see some friends who have just bought their first house. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
'Maybe they can help.' | 0:16:52 | 0:16:53 | |
Are you married, fella? | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
-We were childhood sweethearts. -Really? | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
-She was 15 and I was 16. -Bloody hell! -Yeah. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
How did you know she was the one, then? | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
I don't know. When I met her, you know, I was with another girl | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
and I dumped the other girl and that was it. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
-I went with her and it's been like that ever since. Four kids later. -There you go. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
I struggle with the idea of a single, committed relationship. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
You got used to the idea from a young age of being committed to someone and being with someone. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:21 | |
Whereas I got used to the idea of just having sex with as many people | 0:17:21 | 0:17:26 | |
as possible, you know, so it's hard to break a habit really, isn't it? | 0:17:26 | 0:17:32 | |
Ah, well, it depends if you want to break it I suppose, isn't it? | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
Yes, no, you're right. That is the crux of the argument, isn't it? | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
You have to want to do it, to make a change. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
My friends Sophie and Dino are managing a faithful relationship. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
So what's stopping me? | 0:17:50 | 0:17:51 | |
I don't know, I want to have what you guys have, you know. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
Like a genuine, committed relationship | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
where I can fall in love with someone and not fuck it up | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
when I actually want to commit to them. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
Man, you have to work hard for that. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
It takes some time to renounce to freedom and independence. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
It was a very gradual process. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:10 | |
I'm envious of that relationship you have. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
-You can have it. I mean, if you want it, you can have it. -Yeah. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
It's just that you have to um... invest some of that. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
-Yeah. -Maybe you need to be more patient. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
You think I rush? I want everything to happen straight away. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
-It takes a lot of time to really discover the other person. -Yep. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
-Dino and I were flatmates and I think it helped a lot that we were living together. -Yeah. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:33 | |
It's also good because then you know what you get. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
If I keep going out and sleeping with lots of different girls and giving them my affections, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:40 | |
you spread yourself too thin. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
Like me, this is what I'm doing, I'm not going | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
"I'll start as a friend with one person then build it up..." | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
You've got a lot of opportunities and the job that you do... | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
I mean, you know DJ, stand-up comedian, all these things | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
It's kind of a fantasy for girls | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
and there's a lot of girls wanting to know you, wanting to be with you. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
-So you've got a lot of temptation... -The problem is I can't say no! | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
So you have to renounce some of these successes and pleasures for the special one. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:11 | |
To your new life! | 0:19:11 | 0:19:12 | |
To your future and your promising relationship, I'm sure. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
And my non-promiscuous future maybe. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
We believe you can do it. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:20 | |
# I'm just a gigolo and everywhere I go | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
# People know the part I'm playin'... # | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
So I need to learn to resist temptation. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
The problem is I'm out every night meeting new women. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
Like Emma, number 252. We met at a comedy club and were lovers | 0:19:33 | 0:19:38 | |
on and off for four months. I want to hear what she thinks, | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
but first there's some unfinished business. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
No, we won't talk about that now cos it's not relevant. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
I know what you're going to say. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
I only found out afterwards. I was like, "Oh, my God, | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
-"you slept with three of my mates." -Two. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
Two. Really, like, comedy mates... and it really bothered me | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
cos then I started to think that you were just a jokey | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
and I was, like, she's a gag-hag and I was just another tick on the list. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
"Well, he's another young comedian." | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
What bothered me about it was the first time I saw you live, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
you made a joke about having had sex with one of the girls | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
in the front row and there was actually two of them sitting quite close together in the front row | 0:20:11 | 0:20:17 | |
and they got so angry at you. Don't you remember that? | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
I made a joke about one girl. She was being really drunk | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
and really rude and heckled me and I said "Oh, for fucks sake! | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
"Just cos I slept with your sister!" And I had slept with her sister | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
and she just shut up and both looked at each other, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
but the sister knew obviously but that was horrendous, yeah. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
-That was a horrendous. -That was my first impression of Jeff Leach. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
-I'm a massive fucking hypocrite as well. -Yep. -Horrendous hypocrite. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
So I'm on a list, too! | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
I'm not sure if I like the sound of that. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
What else can I learn from Emma? | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
The whole time we were seeing each other, I didn't feel | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
like I knew you at all really | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
and I think I maybe got like tiny little glimpses of it occasionally | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
and as soon as you start to realise | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
-"Ah, hang on, that's actually Jeff in there," it's gone again. -Yep. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
When you're being yourself, you're actually quite a nice person, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
but you spend so much time trying to be like someone else to everyone else, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
when actually you only really need to do that when you're on stage. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:18 | |
I struggle with the idea that people say to me... | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
you're not the first person who's said it, going, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
"Well, we don't really know who the real Jeff is, I feel like it's a performance." | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
Sometimes that frustrates me cos I go "Well, this is fucking me!" | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
But any girl that actually genuinely loves you and genuinely wants | 0:21:30 | 0:21:35 | |
to be in a relationship with you will accept that part of you, | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
but will also sometimes want just a little bit of you to herself. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
The softer, the vulnerable side of me. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
I don't like being vulnerable, though. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
Sometimes, you have to be. If you want someone to... | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
-It terrifies me. -If you want someone to love you | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
then you have to want them to look after you occasionally | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
and assume that when you open up to them, they won't laugh at you, kick you in the balls and run off. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:58 | |
Yeah, that's why I'm terrified of vulnerability. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
You can't live every single relationship | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
on how other people have treated you in the past. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
Everyone has issues. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:07 | |
'Do you think Jeff's happy ?' | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
That's difficult. You can't ever imagine just sitting in bed | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
with him while he reads a book and you're on your laptop. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
That will never happen. If you're in bed with Jeff you're having sex. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
If you're not, then you're his friend. It's weird. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
I have to face the reality that more than one of these ladies | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
have said "I don't feel like I've got the vulnerable side of you." | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
Just little snippets of that but mostly it's just the confident Jeff, the stage show as it were, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:44 | |
and I've known that I'm like that | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
but I think the reason for it has always been fear. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
'The fear of being hurt like I was by my first love, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
'who left me heartbroken and crying in the street.' | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
And today I actually received an e-mail from my first love, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
from Amy, and she's answered the questions that I've sent | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
through to her so I'll read you the answers now. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
"How would you describe our relationship," I asked. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
She said, "Based on the time in New Zealand, it was short, mostly fun | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
"and very intense." She said, "The intensity became too much for me. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
"In turn, I was a complete bitch to you to try and give myself | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
"some breathing space, I guess." | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
Who here has been in love? Give me a "woo." | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
WOOING | 0:23:24 | 0:23:25 | |
Good. Who here has had their heart broken? | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
WOOING | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
Who here has asked their partner not to leave them? | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
Oh, fuck off, really?! | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
Just me, yeah? | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
"I'm afraid you're the only sad one, Jeff." All right, chill out. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
I said, "What do you think about my list?" | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
And she goes, "Unforgettable, intimate experiences | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
"are...unforgettable. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
"You've kept a register so you don't miss the forgettables | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
"when you review your archive of conquests. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
"Be honest about it now, Jeff. Winky face." | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
And she's right. There's an OCD and collective quality | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
to what I want to do and it is documenting, "Look I've done this | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
"or I've done that" and I hate the phrase "done," but that's literally what it is. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
It's a list of "have dones," isn't it? | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
How can I not of got it right after 300 plus woman?! | 0:24:13 | 0:24:18 | |
You know, am I learning anything | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
in each of those experiences or do they mean nothing? | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
# You cut me up and I | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
# Keep bleeding... # | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
'I'm going to have to start learning from my past.' | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
Dingle, dingle, dingle. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
-Hello! -Hi. -I added my own bell sound. Did you like that? -It's good. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
'So next up, number 175, Claire, who organises burlesque events.' | 0:24:35 | 0:24:40 | |
-How have you been? -I've been good, how are you? | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
-All right, thanks, can I sit? -Yeah, sure. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
I love your shop, it's amazing. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
'She deals in fantasy but I'm here for a reality check.' | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
Yeah, I did think when you first said to me, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
when you called your ladies, your women, "lovers," | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
it's quite interesting because it does make it more than just a... | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
It makes it more of a personal thing that you have with them | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
but it isn't really. It's just exactly the same. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
I think you call it a "lover" to kind of make it more than it is. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
Do you think I ever showed vulnerability when I was with you? | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
-No. -No? -No. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
How do you think I start the process of allowing myself to be vulnerable? | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
Spend a lot of time with somebody, I suppose. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
Just spend all your time with them at all your points. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
Like when you're feeling happy or sad | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
or when you've done something really stupid and you're still | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
talking to them or when you've upset them. Basically, just time. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
You've hit the nail on the head. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
By limiting my time with individual lovers... | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
By seeing a girl one night and making her feel like she is my world, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
which she is when I'm with her, | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
and then not seeing her for two, three weeks or a month, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
then I distance, I'm allowed to distance myself. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
What I've done to myself and lied in the past is that I've thought | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
if I do that with a girl enough times, eventually she'll start going | 0:25:56 | 0:26:00 | |
"Oh, he is showing me that side," and it will become something real. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
But I think I've been a bit naive there because unless you show | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
that woman that you're committing to her and, like you say, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
investing your time, it basically counts for nothing, doesn't it? | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
If you think you're giving them more than that then you're wrong | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
and you need to stop thinking like that. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
You might as well get a vibrator really because they've got settings. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
A vibrator doesn't buy you dinner! | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
Ah, Jesus! | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
I think the main thing that I walked away with | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
from Claire's conversation was the fact that I'm always limiting myself | 0:26:39 | 0:26:44 | |
on how much I can give to a woman and how much they can get from me | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
because of the time that I give to them. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
So spend no time with anyone... | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
Well, how are they ever going to get close to you? | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
# When I'm walking down the street | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
# They say "Hey, sexy"... # | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
So am I a guy who just loves sex or is there more to it than that? | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
# When I'm driving in my car | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
# Or standing at the bar It don't matter where we are | 0:27:03 | 0:27:07 | |
# They say, "Hey, sexy"... # | 0:27:07 | 0:27:08 | |
It's quite a simple questionnaire "Am I a sex addict?" | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
So I should answer some questions. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
Question one, "Does your sexual behaviour have a negative impact | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
"on other areas of your life such as relationships, work, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
"finances, health and professional status?" | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
That's a yes. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
"Have you tried to limit your sexual behaviours but failed?" | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
Err.. Yeah, I have tried to do that when I was in relationships | 0:27:30 | 0:27:34 | |
and it didn't work out. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
Yes, yes, yes, that's definitely true. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
How do you know you're a sex addict? | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
I filled out a questionnaire, a sex addict questionnaire. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
There were questions on there that told me about my sexual fixations. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
I was like "Yes, yes!" The lascivious patterns I had, "Yes!" | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
And I don't mind admitting to you, ladies and gentleman, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
but like most new things I meet in life, I nailed it. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
So let me tally those up. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
Umm...that would be 12 out of 12 yes-es. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:09 | |
I probably need some help really. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
If I'm a sex addict then I am not alone. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
Six percent of the UK population are apparently keeping me company. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:25 | |
I have arranged to get a professional opinion, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
so am meeting with Paula Hall, | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
Sexual and Relationship Psychotherapist. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
Basically, sex addiction is any sexual behaviour | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
-that feels out of control. -OK. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
If you're acting out in a sexual way | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
and you don't really know what you're getting out of it anymore | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
and you don't really know why you're doing it, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
you've quite often regretting that you've done it again, | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
but you keep on doing it, then you probably are an addict. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
Even though I was knackered and had to get up at six to film, | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
I would spend that extra hour-and-a-half | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
having sex with a girl that ultimately, tires me out, | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
makes me more miserable the next day because I'm knackered. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
I might find myself late for meetings... | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
I'll turn up 20 minutes late and the reason was because I had to fit in another wank. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:11 | |
It doesn't matter if it's lots of one night stands, | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
multiple affairs, visiting sex workers, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
looking at pornography, masturbating to pornography, whatever. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
It's not actually what you do, it's your relationship to it. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
You are dependent on it and it is getting in the way | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
of other things that are important in your life. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
So the dopamine receptors in your brain get used to a certain level of high. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:34 | |
So someone who is continually feeding their dopamine system | 0:29:34 | 0:29:39 | |
-is going to get more bored than other people. -Yeah. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
But the only way you can actually change that is to actually change | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
your lifestyle so that eventually it takes... | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
-Does it gradually come back down? -Yeah, your dopamine begins to recalibrate. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
Some people recommend you need at least a 90 day abstinence | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
from any sexual activity | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
and you've got to find ways of self-soothing that are healthy | 0:29:59 | 0:30:04 | |
and learn to love yourself | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
and live in your own company and there is a real, | 0:30:06 | 0:30:11 | |
sad, desperate, "Love me, love me, love me," little script going on. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
I don't do it in that voice, though. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
I find that adds to the neediness if anything! | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
Celibacy is a terrifying and terrible word, right? | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
Even for you guys, who don't have sex with, you know, 300 plus woman, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
you probably think, "Aw, celibacy... Aw, no thanks | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
"I'd rather just not have sex." | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
I remember up until the age of seven or eight | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
being very happy with my family. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
I remember going on holidays and my dad put me on his shoulders | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
and my mum walking along and them getting along | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
and then actually, from that age on, from seven or eight on, | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
all I remember is them arguing | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
and I wonder if there's an element of me... | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
-Not wanting to get trapped... -..that thinks, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
"Well, I've seen how miserable some committed relationships can be. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
So I don't want to put myself through that. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
So actually, a lot of your... | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
sexual behaviour by the sound of it is about intimacy regulation. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
You use it to kind of keep out of a relationship to a certain extent... | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
-Yes. -..by continually having multiple relationships | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
you're not putting all your eggs in one basket. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
# It's that old devil called love again... # | 0:31:17 | 0:31:24 | |
It feels good to actually be diagnosed as an addict. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
Someone scientifically saying, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
"Look, you have got a problem with sex and love addiction. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
As Paula said, there is only one way to rectify any addiction | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
which is to ultimately, | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
give up the thing that you're addicted to for a bit of time. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
Go through a period of abstinence. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:41 | |
So I'm going to become celibate, which is terrifying. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
I'm going to have a hell of a lot of free time on my hands, I guess. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
But I've had an idea to keep me busy. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
I'll deal with this situation the best way I know how... | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
through comedy. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:56 | |
I'm going to put on a stand-up gig based on everything I'm learning, | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
for friends, family and ex-lovers. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
Swift journey, little envelopes. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
Ultimately, I think the gig's going to be quite cathartic. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
It'll be an important way to assess everything that I'm learning | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
as I go on this journey and... | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
it'll be a nice way to kind of conclude the healing process. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
So back to the list, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
what is being with a certified sex addict really like? | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
'Having random sex in bathrooms and you know...' | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
'We slept with each other and then we had a massive fight.' | 0:32:31 | 0:32:35 | |
I don't want to say that you're selfish, but I think you are. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
The list is...because I want to remember each of those experiences. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:43 | |
'After one day you were like, "Yeah, I've got shit to do, bye." ' | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
It's so funny, I've talked to you and another girl | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
who I didn't even realise the extent to which I've hurt people. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
I'm not out there hurting people any more. | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
I'm at home being a good boy! | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
It's proving to be quite difficult. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
All these ex-lovers have been hittin' me - | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
"Hey, my God, how you been, what's going on? Let's meet up." | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
I've had to just say no, saying, "I can't do it." | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
I'd like to fucking have a real relationship for once. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
But right now my penis... underneath there, is like, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:24 | |
"Let me out, let me at 'em! I've got so much to give the world." | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
You haven't, you stop it. "Shut up!" No, you shut up. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
Base is how I'm feeling. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
-PHONE RINGTONE -Ch-ching! | 0:33:34 | 0:33:35 | |
"Hey! It's another girl, it's late at night." | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
Who's texting me at this time? Got to be a girl. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
"Hey, you should come out and have a drink with me, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
"and then, oh, a drink, | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
"or do you mean come back to my house and have sexy times?" | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
Yeah, it's from a girl. (Fuckin' hell!) | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
I'm going to go and sit in a cold bath of ice. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
I don't think celibacy would be that hard, | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
if it was just a case of giving up sex and walking away from it all, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
but when you've got the ex-lovers of yours sending you text messages, | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
suggestive comments on Facebook, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
sending you photos of their naked breasts on a daily basis... | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
It's like a drug addict getting calls from his dealer just going, | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
"Hello, Barry, I've missed you. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
"I've got some good stuff for ya, can I pop round?" | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
What do you do? | 0:34:23 | 0:34:24 | |
Thankfully, there is one woman I'm allowed to visit... | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
my mum. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:30 | |
-Hello. -Oh, hi, darling! | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
I grew up here in Harrow, on the outskirts of London | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
with my sister and my parents, | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
who have recently divorced after 35 years. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
Yeah, I'm all right thank you, I'm good. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
So what is this for? | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
Jeff working out whether he can have a relationship. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
-And can he? -SHE LAUGHS | 0:34:49 | 0:34:51 | |
What do you think? | 0:34:51 | 0:34:52 | |
It's difficult, I mean, I wouldn't revisit...another... | 0:34:54 | 0:34:59 | |
-Ex-lovers. -No, no I would not... | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
But you're not a whore like me, you've only had about two. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
I beg your pardon, that's not quite so. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
I didn't have any after Daddy, that's another thing. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:15 | |
Because I don't work like that. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
When I'm in a relationship, I'm in a relationship and I said "Yes," so... | 0:35:17 | 0:35:21 | |
Is it going to change you? | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
Well, it has already, yeah, I think I'm learning something. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:27 | |
The lady's made a really nice point | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
because I told her about when you and Dad used to argue and stuff | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
and you know I got lost in my Terry Pratchett books? | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
I would religiously read them every single night | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
and then I'd have to read one after the other, after the other | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
and she said, "Well, you were doing the same thing then. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
"That was an addictive..." | 0:35:44 | 0:35:45 | |
Going into your fantasy? | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
Yeah, exactly, or ignoring the real world, | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
ignoring you two shouting at each other by reading a book | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
but I had to read every single one of those books in a big long... | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
It's interesting. Did we shout a lot? We must have? | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
-Every single night from the ages... -Really? -Yeah. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
Wow! That's a dark, dark drawing, isn't it? | 0:36:00 | 0:36:05 | |
I remember that, I did that for you and Dad. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
Is that me above you with those nasty eyes? | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
That's you and Dad, yeah. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
That picture sums up... | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
..how I felt quite a lot, when I was younger... | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
I tell you what will be nice | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
and that is, you know, your bust in the lounge. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
She completely ignores the real issues at hand. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
Throughout my life that's the reality. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
"Go and look at the nice one of you with your curtains." | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
Look at this, this was a cry for help! | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
You know what that was? | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
That picture, it's frustration, I know that feeling, | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
I can look at that picture and I can immediately identify that feeling. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:44 | |
Immediately, I can indentify that feeling | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
because I felt it so many years of that feeling of just being like... | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
HE BREATHES IN DEEPLY | 0:36:50 | 0:36:51 | |
I always felt loved by my family, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
but I have many childhood memories of hiding away in my bedroom | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
to escape my parents' rows. | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
Paula, my therapist, has sent me a letter | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
and asked me to read it in my old bedroom. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
It's long. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
"Dear Jeff, as I made my journey home | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
"I noticed whilst there was a smile on my face as I thought about you, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
"there was a really deep sense of sadness in my heart..." | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
OK. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:20 | |
"I had witnessed and enjoyed a wonderful performance | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
"but had I really met and seen Jeff Leach? | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
"As I reflected on our conversation there was one image | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
"that kept haunting me - | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
"the eight-year-old Jeff | 0:37:31 | 0:37:32 | |
"who was one minute riding aloft his father's shoulders with his mum at his side | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
"and the rest, was sat alone reading Terry Pratchett | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
"to drown out the screaming rows. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
"I'm sure any boy of that age would have felt frightened, confused, | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
"sad and very alone. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
"I suspect at the route of your addiction is that little boy | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
"who's still not had a chance to have his feelings and needs heard. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
"You will continue to drown out your fears | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
"with alcohol, drugs or sex until you face them." | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
So there's pretty much, an eight-year-old me, | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
with a really cheesy smile. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:07 | |
Stressed, that's what I think that kid feels. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
They would scream at each other for what seemed like hours. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
What actually upsets and frustrates me about my situation now | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
is not that I have issues, cos I've always been aware of that. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
It's not that I have things that hark back to my childhood | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
cos I've been aware of that. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:30 | |
It's that despite I know all that, I still allow myself to do things | 0:38:30 | 0:38:34 | |
that...don't help the problem. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
# I love you too much, I love you too much... # | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
So the further I'm coming along on this journey, | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
the more that this live stand-up gig is terrifying me | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
and I feel like I'm not even sure if I can do it. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
You know, I've got to take a process that has been very personal, | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
very emotionally laden, | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
is mixed up with so much responsibility to the women from my life, | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
let alone my own responsibility to myself | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
to do this in an honest fashion | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
and then, I've got to make all of this | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
heavily, emotionally laden, serious stuff | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
into something funny that people can ridicule. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
Next, is a girl who held a very special place in my heart. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
Susie, number 180. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
I just got to a point, I think, | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
where I realised that there was a few negative ways | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
that I was living my life... | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
Really? No way(!) | 0:39:37 | 0:39:38 | |
-You're not even remotely surprised about that? -No. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
-I'm celibate at the moment. -That's a good thing. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
Why d'you think that's a good thing, me being celibate? | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
Because you might learn something. SHE LAUGHS | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
What, how to be immensely frustrated on a daily basis? | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
I want to have sex with everyone in here, | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
and it's only old ladies and dogs in this park. | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
Back then you probably would have done that anyway. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
Whoa, chill out! Are you an old lady, are you a dog? No! | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
I remember once, I did a show | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
at some club, I don't know what it was | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
and I was sat in the dressing room and there was other performers there | 0:40:09 | 0:40:13 | |
and I was talking about you and one of the girls went, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
"Oh, Susie's going out with Jeff" | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
and one of these girls...she was a performer, I didn't know her | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
and she went, "You're going out with Jeff? | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
"Don't you mean you're just sleeping with him like everybody else? | 0:40:22 | 0:40:26 | |
I was like, "Oh, don't I feel good. Awesome(!)" | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
You called me your girlfriend to everyone that you introduced me to | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
then the next day you were like, "No, I didn't say that, didn't say that." | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
I was like, "Oh, OK, cool(!)" | 0:40:36 | 0:40:37 | |
I remember that. That's awful. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
I remember thinking, "Oh, my God!" | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
-This might happen this year? -Yeah, "OK, here we go." | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
And the next day you're just like, "I didn't say that." | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
"No, I didn't say you were my girlfriend | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
"and if I did I was just drunk or whatever." | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
I remember that, what a dick. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
When you were being Jeff, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
when you were being the Jeff that I knew and you were not on anything | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
and you were just being normal, it was perfect. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
Like, you treated me so well and I couldn't have been happier | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
but then I knew in the middle of week it would all be nice | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
and then I knew when it got to the weekend | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
it was just all going to go to shit again | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
and I don't know why I stuck around for so long | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
cos it was over a year! | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
Maybe because you saw glimpses of the... | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
I'd see these glimpses and I thought, "He's going to realise soon." | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
There was three Jeff's when I was with you. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
There was Jeff that used to go out, | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
drink and party for three days straight. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
Never sleep, look like shit. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
Then there's work Jeff and then there was my Jeff. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:37 | |
-Who you saw a tiny bit? -Yeah. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:38 | |
That's the guy I'm trying to bring more into... | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
I've got rid of the first Jeff, the drink and drugs Jeff. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
Good cos he was a dickhead!! | 0:41:44 | 0:41:45 | |
I won't disagree with you. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
It wasn't a lie when I said to you that I felt that way about you. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
-But you were sleeping with other people at the same time! -Yeah. Yeah, I was. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
And I've continued to do that | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
in lots of other relationships like that. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:58 | |
Imagine if I had committed to you | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
and made you my girlfriend exclusive and that was that, | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
you would of, at any point, had the power to ruin me. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
D'you know what I mean...? | 0:42:06 | 0:42:07 | |
But I wouldn't have, though. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
I just wished you'd known at the time | 0:42:11 | 0:42:15 | |
how much I really did love you | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
and how much I really wanted to be, you know, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
be your boyfriend and be a good guy. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
I was just terrified. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
HE SIGHS | 0:42:24 | 0:42:25 | |
-I'm sorry. -It's all right, I'm over it. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
It was like an arrow being shot into me, know what I mean? | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
"Jeff, you were never there when I needed you." | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
BOOF! | 0:42:40 | 0:42:41 | |
Ahh...that hurt, that hurt. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
"Yeah, that hurt? | 0:42:44 | 0:42:45 | |
"It hurt being told that you loved me when you were drunk | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
"and then in the morning when you were sober denying it." | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
-BOOF! -Aah! Did I really do that? | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
"Yes, you did that! You know, it hurt when I needed you | 0:42:54 | 0:42:58 | |
"and you were off having sex with 20 other girls." | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
Not all the girls on the list were so keen on a face-to-face meeting, | 0:43:03 | 0:43:07 | |
So I asked them if they'd write and answer a few of my questions. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:11 | |
She says, "I never felt it was going to be a long-term thing. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
"I think you felt the same. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
"It was doomed." That's quite theatrical! | 0:43:17 | 0:43:20 | |
"I think you just froze me out, gradually. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:24 | |
I said, "What were you looking for that I didn't give you or we didn't have?" | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
She says, "A bit more stability." | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
This is what I do, I get close to someone, | 0:43:29 | 0:43:31 | |
very intense and close to them for a very short period of time, | 0:43:31 | 0:43:35 | |
then I get scared probably, of the reality | 0:43:35 | 0:43:37 | |
that this might become a relationship | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
and all the intensity will dwindle | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
and I might - God forbid - run risk the of being in a happy, committed relationship | 0:43:42 | 0:43:46 | |
and then I... start to push women out. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
"You always want something different, something more. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:53 | |
"You're never that satisfied, the hole is never filled. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:55 | |
"It gets bigger and you try and consume it with more partners." | 0:43:55 | 0:43:59 | |
I asked her, "What did you learn from our time together?" | 0:44:00 | 0:44:03 | |
"I learnt how to become submissive, I learnt how to lie to myself." | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
She felt like she had to play a slightly muted role | 0:44:08 | 0:44:11 | |
or a slightly muted version of herself | 0:44:11 | 0:44:13 | |
because of my all-encompassing, | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
egotistical, self-absorbed character. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
But I find it... I remember our relationship very differently. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:24 | |
I find it very hard to accept that I dictated everything. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:29 | |
"A healthy relationship requires trust more than anything | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
"and I never had that with you." | 0:44:33 | 0:44:35 | |
It's unappealing, unattractive. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:36 | |
That's the reality, it's an unattractive quality to be a slag. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
Whether you're male or female, or old or young, or you know... | 0:44:40 | 0:44:44 | |
And then she met someone else. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:45 | |
The story of my life - | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
girls that I like meet someone else and they commit to them | 0:44:47 | 0:44:50 | |
because they find a guy who actually will step up and commit | 0:44:50 | 0:44:53 | |
rather than just offer fun times. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
It gets boring, doesn't it? | 0:44:56 | 0:44:57 | |
Basically, what I'm learning from these women | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
is that the lifestyle that I've been leading has a limited shelf life. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:04 | |
As much as I can get bored and keep going, | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
and shagging different woman... they get bored of me | 0:45:07 | 0:45:11 | |
because they think, "He's capable of something more, | 0:45:11 | 0:45:14 | |
"He's capable of something more... | 0:45:14 | 0:45:16 | |
"Oh, hang on a sec, he's never going to reach that point." | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
It's hurtful. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:20 | |
I don't want them to think, "He's just a slag. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
"He's a slag who's incapable of loving or caring." | 0:45:23 | 0:45:25 | |
I want them to think, "Yeah, he's a sexual entity but... | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
"..his adventurous nature doesn't come in the way of him being a descent bloke | 0:45:29 | 0:45:33 | |
"who's capable of loving and being loved." | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
This process is proving to be a lot more difficult | 0:45:41 | 0:45:44 | |
than I thought it would be | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
and all the problems that I was horrendously aware that I've had for... | 0:45:46 | 0:45:51 | |
..for 20 odd years... | 0:45:54 | 0:45:56 | |
..are being dragged to the surface. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
Talking to my mum... | 0:46:04 | 0:46:05 | |
..and going back to my house to a place where I'm really not happy... | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
..and then ultimately, talking to all these ex-girlfriends | 0:46:12 | 0:46:16 | |
and having... | 0:46:16 | 0:46:17 | |
..just having like, my feelings... | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
..thrashed about. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
I know it's a good process to bring those out so you can deal with them | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
but at the same point it's tiring, you know. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
I'm tired and frankly I want it to be over. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
Delving into my past and inviting criticism was never going to be easy. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:52 | |
But I need to look forward, | 0:46:52 | 0:46:54 | |
I need to take this seriously and change something. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
I'm going to Blackpool to meet with a sex addiction recovery group. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:02 | |
I have got a bit of a problem, and a bit of an illness really. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:06 | |
It's a disease of the mind, isn't it? | 0:47:06 | 0:47:08 | |
That's kind of... the long and the short of addiction, so... | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
It'll be quite a relief to talk to other people | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
who suffer the same kind of problems. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
OK, thanks for everybody being here tonight. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:26 | |
We've got with us Jeff and he's here to try and understand how group therapy can help him. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:30 | |
-I'm Jeff... -And I'm an addict. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
..well, yeah, I'm an addict. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:35 | |
I'm an insecure, issue-riddled individual. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:38 | |
I'm Ryan, sex addict. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
I'd go in my mum's handbag, pinching money for my addiction. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:45 | |
So you'd need money, which would be a two-pronged attack, | 0:47:45 | 0:47:48 | |
wouldn't it with sex and drink? | 0:47:48 | 0:47:51 | |
The alcohol would lead onto the sex | 0:47:51 | 0:47:53 | |
or the cocaine would lead onto the sex, so yeah. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:57 | |
I lost my family, my job... everything. | 0:47:57 | 0:48:00 | |
I remember waking up in the hospital, I'd overdosed | 0:48:00 | 0:48:04 | |
and I remember having a go at the doctors for reviving me. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:07 | |
My parents split up, around 13 | 0:48:07 | 0:48:11 | |
and that's when I started getting involved with sex addictions | 0:48:11 | 0:48:14 | |
and everything to do with that. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
How many lovers do you claim to have had? | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
500 to 700 roughly, between that area. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:22 | |
When you say, "Like, 600," | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
I'm like, "Fuck! Why haven't I had sex with 600 women?!" | 0:48:25 | 0:48:28 | |
Then I start... It's pathetic, isn't it? | 0:48:28 | 0:48:30 | |
It's pathetic, a childish thing to be like, | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
"Oh, I want to have sex with more." | 0:48:33 | 0:48:34 | |
What do you take away from the group apart from obviously, there's that sort of mentality? | 0:48:34 | 0:48:39 | |
How's it sort of changed how you...? | 0:48:39 | 0:48:41 | |
You're getting their feedback on how they recover, | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
then you can put that into your recovery | 0:48:44 | 0:48:47 | |
and you can tell them how I recover to them. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:49 | |
The power of talk, it's worked for me. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:52 | |
That's another thing, do you...? | 0:48:52 | 0:48:54 | |
I never talk to any of my mates about anything that makes me... | 0:48:54 | 0:48:59 | |
I think I'm quite a depressed individual to be honest | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
and I never talk about it cos I'm always seen as that fun-time guy. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
I feel like it'd be a burden if I talk to my mates about it... | 0:49:05 | 0:49:09 | |
When it first happened, I didn't speak to anyone about it. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
I usually just kept my happy side out and hid my unhappy side, | 0:49:12 | 0:49:16 | |
make everyone else happy, not myself. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:18 | |
Can you talk to other people outside of the group then? | 0:49:18 | 0:49:21 | |
Do you talk to some of your mates now about...? | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
Yeah, now I've come into recovery | 0:49:23 | 0:49:25 | |
I've got the courage to tell people like...what I've got | 0:49:25 | 0:49:29 | |
-and got the bollocks to say what needs to be done. -Yeah. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:33 | |
It's a big help, It's not always easy but... | 0:49:33 | 0:49:36 | |
1,000 mile journey starts with the first step and that's having, as you say, the bollocks to... | 0:49:36 | 0:49:42 | |
-To not use the bollocks! -Yeah, I was going to say that. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
Yeah, that works, yeah. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
I need to lean on friends who are always there for me | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
as opposed to getting a quick fix from a night of lust. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
I'm going to do a bit of personal off-loading, | 0:49:57 | 0:50:00 | |
talk to them about how I'm feeling about things | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
and hopefully, that might help somewhat. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:04 | |
It's good to get a second opinion, isn't it? | 0:50:04 | 0:50:07 | |
From someone who knows you and cares about you. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:09 | |
That's the next step - start talking to my mates about how I feel. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:14 | |
I'm going to see one of my closest friends, | 0:50:17 | 0:50:19 | |
and importantly, a girl I have not slept with! | 0:50:19 | 0:50:22 | |
Arlene. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:23 | |
-Hey, how you doing? -Hi, darling, you all right? | 0:50:23 | 0:50:26 | |
I'm good, I like the fur. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:27 | |
I've been given the advice that I don't really talk to my mates | 0:50:27 | 0:50:30 | |
about how I feel about stuff very often. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:32 | |
-Do you talk to anybody? -No. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
"No, I'm a boy!" | 0:50:35 | 0:50:37 | |
A little bit, but I always thought I was capable of a little bit more...depth than that. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:42 | |
I reckon you're more of a boy than you think. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:44 | |
That's the problem, | 0:50:44 | 0:50:45 | |
I don't talk to my friends or my parents about the issues I have, | 0:50:45 | 0:50:49 | |
I never do that, I never open up. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:51 | |
I'm terrified. I want to be that fun guy, | 0:50:51 | 0:50:53 | |
"Guys, what's going on?" "Not much, Jeff. How are you feeling?" | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
-"Oh, you know... -HE IMITATES SOBBING | 0:50:56 | 0:50:58 | |
"..great, great! | 0:50:58 | 0:51:00 | |
"I'm having a great time, things are good." | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
HE IMITATES SOBBING | 0:51:03 | 0:51:04 | |
I've had to face the reality in this programme that I don't like myself. I don't love myself. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:09 | |
Aw! | 0:51:10 | 0:51:11 | |
I don't really love the person that I am. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:16 | |
But you can see that you've got the ability to change yourself. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:19 | |
-Are you starting to see that? -Yeah, I'd like to think so, yeah. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:23 | |
Otherwise I would have given up on myself, | 0:51:23 | 0:51:26 | |
I'd just go desperately into a pit of debauchery and go, | 0:51:26 | 0:51:29 | |
"Fuck it, I'm stuck anyway." | 0:51:29 | 0:51:31 | |
I do, I honestly think you've, you know, just seeing you, | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
even though not low but I think you've definitely grown and changed. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:39 | |
You've got so much going for you and I think you just need | 0:51:39 | 0:51:42 | |
to figure a little bit more about what you actually want. | 0:51:42 | 0:51:44 | |
I think as much as you really want | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
to kind of get to somewhere that you can have that | 0:51:47 | 0:51:49 | |
real, full-on, emotional relationship, | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
I think actually, | 0:51:52 | 0:51:53 | |
part of you still, is all right about the shagging around bit. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:58 | |
-I'm definitely in that no-man's-land at the moment. -Yeah. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
But the prospect of a committed relationship with one person - | 0:52:01 | 0:52:05 | |
never being able to have sex with these attractive ladies again - terrifies me. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:09 | |
That's a bit frightening. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:10 | |
A bit full-on, it's one extreme to another, isn't it? | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
Now I'm in this middle place, "What do I do?" | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
Surely, it will start getting easier. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:18 | |
But I think spending time with friends is probably... | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
cos at least then you've got people around you | 0:52:21 | 0:52:25 | |
and you can cuddle friends. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:27 | |
It's the day of the gig. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:31 | |
Time for a last minute run-through of my material. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
300, the fact that it's 300 has got to be a Spartans related joke. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:40 | |
Allowing my exes, friends and a therapist to pick me apart, | 0:52:40 | 0:52:44 | |
revisiting childhood stress, turning my back on sexual encounters, | 0:52:44 | 0:52:48 | |
reassessing my whole lifestyle | 0:52:48 | 0:52:50 | |
and almost having a breakdown in the process, | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
wouldn't leave anyone in funniest of moods but the show must go on. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:57 | |
Right, here we go... | 0:52:57 | 0:52:59 | |
Ooh! | 0:53:00 | 0:53:01 | |
Think in like...a couple of hours time, I'll be going, | 0:53:01 | 0:53:06 | |
"Hey, look, I'm a terrible man, I'm going to tell you about that. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:10 | |
"Hey, Mum and Dad! How proud are you?" And that's going to be funny. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:14 | |
(Fuck!) It feels real now. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:19 | |
DRUM BEATS | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
CROWD CHEERS | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
It's a full house and time for the moment of truth. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:32 | |
Can I make comedy from misery? | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
CHEERING | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
This is why we're here, ladies and gentleman. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:40 | |
I've been going on this journey if you will, to stop being a whore. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:45 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:53:45 | 0:53:47 | |
I'm not quite healed yet, I've still got issues. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:50 | |
Quite clearly you can see, I'm slightly unhinged. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:53 | |
I'll be happy when I can stop doing jokes about my miserable existence. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:57 | |
This process is for two reasons, | 0:53:58 | 0:54:00 | |
one - I just do want to stop being what is ultimately a bell-end, know what I mean? | 0:54:00 | 0:54:04 | |
Living a very vacuous, shallow, lifestyle. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:06 | |
I'm going to continue this, this is me, | 0:54:06 | 0:54:08 | |
this is partly me but there is a vulnerable side I want to show. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:12 | |
Also, I really want to be a father in the future. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:15 | |
All of you are looking at me like, "Please do not let that happen. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:18 | |
"Keep him away from the children, are you mental?!" | 0:54:20 | 0:54:24 | |
What else do I need to be a good father? | 0:54:25 | 0:54:27 | |
Well, I have organised and scheduled | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
up to 30 different lovers at a time, right? | 0:54:30 | 0:54:33 | |
That's pathetic. However, pretty sure I can handle the school run. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:37 | |
I do, I want to be a father some day. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:41 | |
Not like James Brown kind of father, | 0:54:41 | 0:54:44 | |
that's what I would be if I carried on this lifestyle, | 0:54:44 | 0:54:47 | |
just like 600 feral children, just like running round. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
That is why he makes those sounds on stage, he's not singing, | 0:54:50 | 0:54:53 | |
he's just surprised constantly by the new children jumping out of these paternity lawsuits. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:58 | |
"Yeah, I'm going to... | 0:54:58 | 0:54:59 | |
"Ow! More! Whoa, what's that? Damn, look at that!" | 0:54:59 | 0:55:02 | |
So I guess ladies and gents, that's the end of the comedy part of this. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
I've gone on a genuine journey to discover the failings in myself, | 0:55:07 | 0:55:12 | |
to discover how I can ultimately try | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
and make other people happy in the future | 0:55:14 | 0:55:16 | |
and I realise that until I'm happy with myself and I love myself | 0:55:16 | 0:55:20 | |
that's not going to be possible. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:22 | |
So I'm going to walk off this stage and get on with doing that | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
but I want to say thank you to the ladies who've come tonight, | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
my family, my friends and ultimately you guys | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
for allowing me to perform for you this evening and discover this. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:34 | |
Thank you, good night. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:36 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
I feel very weird, I feel like that's it. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:44 | |
Well, that is it, I'm like, full of adrenalin. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
It was amazing, they were such a lovely audience and... | 0:55:46 | 0:55:49 | |
it was a nice way to lay to rest | 0:55:49 | 0:55:51 | |
what has been a long and quite arduous journey. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:55 | |
Maybe this is the making of him, you know doing this programme | 0:55:55 | 0:55:58 | |
and going back over all these things | 0:55:58 | 0:56:01 | |
and...because it actually pains me when he said he doesn't love himself | 0:56:01 | 0:56:07 | |
because he's very loved by everybody who meets him and so on, so... | 0:56:07 | 0:56:12 | |
He needs to get there. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
This is the beginning now of the next part my own personal story, | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
which is putting into practice | 0:56:18 | 0:56:19 | |
all the things I've learned from these girls | 0:56:19 | 0:56:22 | |
and ultimately, ending up hopefully being...a good bloke. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:26 | |
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