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My name is Ana Garcia, my home is the Rock of Gibraltar - | 0:00:19 | 0:00:24 | |
a tiny piece of Britain on the southern tip of Spain. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
Gibraltar has spent 300 years torn between these old colonial rivals - | 0:00:27 | 0:00:32 | |
Britain and Spain - but for me, Gibraltar's home. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
As I prepare to return to get married, I find myself | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
more curious than ever about my deep connection to this ancient rock. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
Maybe if I can unravel the conflicted history of the Rock, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
I can answer some of the questions | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
about who I am and where I come from. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
My family played a prominent role in the recent | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
political wrangles over Gibraltar, so by exploring old archives - | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
some family Super 8 footage and new interviews - | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
I hope to fully understand the story of Gibraltar, | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
and the people on the Rock. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
Gibraltar's paradise. There's nowhere, I challenge anybody | 0:01:09 | 0:01:14 | |
to tell me where there's a better place then Gibraltar. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
Sometimes we get rain, but otherwise everything you want is here - | 0:01:17 | 0:01:22 | |
whether you're a Hindu, Muslim, Jewish, Catholic, Protestant - | 0:01:22 | 0:01:28 | |
we're all one big family. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
Britain captured Gibraltar from Spain in 1704, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
and with it took control of the strategy gateway to | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
the Mediterranean between Europe and Africa. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
In the Treaty of Utrecht, the King of Spain signed Gibraltar away | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
to Britain for ever. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:46 | |
The Rock became a British military garrison - | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
and soon trade began with Mediterranean neighbours. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
Eventually these merchants began to settle within the garrison walls. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
The garrison became a country and it's countrymen, the Gibraltarians. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:02 | |
Gibraltar is a...politically, it is a country. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
It has its own parliament, it has its own airport, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
its own hospitals, its own schooling systems. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
It has everything that a country has. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
The only thing that makes me hesitate slightly is | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
because we're 30,000 people. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
As you know, we say here, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:19 | |
British we are, British we stay, but Spanish we speak all day. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
I'm a British Gibraltarian, I'm a Gibraltarian, | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
yet I love bull fighting, with all due respects to the RSPCA. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
So we have the best of both worlds. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
When people say we're more British than the British - I say you've | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
got it all wrong - it's not that we're more British than the British, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
it's that we are more Mediterranean | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
about being British then the Anglo-Saxons. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
Life on the Rock hasn't always been easy. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
Spain believes Gibraltar should be Spanish, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
and has spent centuries trying to regain it. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
In 1954, Her Majesty the Queen visited the Rock | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
and trouble soon followed. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
The display of sovereignty angered Spain's fascist dictator, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
General Franco, and reignited Spain's claim on the Rock. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:13 | |
A broken society still suffering the aftermath of civil war | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
and now turning its aggression toward us. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
We needed a plan, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:21 | |
and my grandfather Peter Isola was one of those who took a stand. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:26 | |
I am Rosie Isola. I'm your grandmother. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
In 1956, we got married, went on our honeymoon | 0:03:34 | 0:03:39 | |
and when we came back he gave me the wonderful news | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
that he was going to stand for election with his father. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
He knew I didn't like politics. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
But he said, "I'll only be there a couple of years." | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
And a couple of years lasted...50. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
My grandfather became the leader of the Opposition | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
and his greatest rival, Sir Joshua Hassan, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
became the Chief Minister of Gibraltar. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
People loved him so much because he was friendly with everyone. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
Remember, Gibraltar is a very small place | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
and he knew practically everyone by name. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
They were pretty bitter enemies. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
There was a lot of personal animosity between them | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
but, having said that, it didn't stop them in the '60s | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
forming a coalition government. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
Because of the pressures that Spain was putting on Gibraltar, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
and they were very great indeed - you know, border troubles - | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
we felt that the state was in danger, and the two groups | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
came together because we thought the main enemy was Spain. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
This was the era of anti-colonialism. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
And in 1963 the United Nations had finally called for | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
the decolonisation of Gibraltar. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
Britain resisted, but Spain took advantage of this | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
anti-imperial movement to re-stake her claim on the Rock. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
We were in London with your mother when he got this phone call from | 0:04:58 | 0:05:03 | |
Sir Joshua's office to say, "We're off to the United Nations." | 0:05:03 | 0:05:10 | |
So Joshua came to London, met Peter and they both left | 0:05:10 | 0:05:15 | |
and I was left on my own with your mother. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
We went there, it was like an emergency hall, you know, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
48 hours' notice and we were on a plane, off to New York, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
and we knew nothing of the procedures there. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
We wanted to be British. Spain hadn't been particularly friendly. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
Spain was a fascist regime, it made its intentions very clear, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:35 | |
it wanted to take over Gibraltar, so naturally you become defensive. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
But in those days, of course, the United Nations generally were | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
totally against Britain. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
They regarded Britain as an imperial power. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
I mean, you felt it when you were talking. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
I mean, they couldn't understand why we wanted to stay with Britain, | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
you know, they just couldn't understand it, most of the delegates. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
There wasn't anything bigger than that, | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
than going to the United Nations to fight for our freedom. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:04 | |
What more do you want? | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
My grandfather and Sir Joshua called for recognition of | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
the people's right to self-determination. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
Spain objected, but the United Nations agreed to defer enforcement | 0:06:12 | 0:06:17 | |
of the decolonisation of Gibraltar, while discussions continued. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
It was the first time Gibraltarians had gone to the United Nations. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
You know? I mean, these were guys in a little village, you know, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
actually appearing before the world! I mean, irrespective of the result, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
everybody was going to welcome them, we all did. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
And when I met him at the airport, when they came down from the plane | 0:06:39 | 0:06:45 | |
I said, "You don't know what's waiting for you, and Sir Joshua." | 0:06:45 | 0:06:50 | |
And they said, "What?" | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
And I said, "The whole of Gibraltar have come out to welcome you." | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
CROWD CHEERS | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
I think what people were celebrating was the fact that, all right, we | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
might not have come back with a great trophy, but Gibraltar had spoken. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:17 | |
And it was the first, if you like, whispers of a voice that would | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
slowly build into something more credible as the politics changed. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
In those days, I was a bachelor and I had an MG Midget, red car, | 0:07:25 | 0:07:31 | |
sports car, and I was asked whether I wouldn't mind taking them | 0:07:31 | 0:07:36 | |
at the back of the car and I would drive them around the town. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
I was delighted. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
But I do remember it. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
And it was obviously great sitting in the car between Sir Joshua Hassan | 0:07:45 | 0:07:50 | |
and my dad, until eventually they kicked me off. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
Whenever we were stopped, I drank water, they drank whiskey. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:01 | |
I had to make sure I was in my full senses. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
The whole of Gibraltar came out to greet them and to thank them. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:10 | |
And that was very moving. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
Their success, however, was short-lived. The United Nations | 0:08:13 | 0:08:18 | |
could not accept Gibraltar's wish to remain with Britain - | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
the battle had only just begun. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
To say to the decolonisation committee, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
set up by the United Nations to liberate people from imperialism, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:32 | |
how wonderful imperialism is, you know, is like committing hara-kiri. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:37 | |
For Gibraltarians, however, it was not about imperialism, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
it was about a 260-year-old British identity. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
Well, my father considered himself to be completely British. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:51 | |
In the sense that that's what he chose to be. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
He had many friends in Spain but he loathed their system. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
To him, you know, next to God, Winston Churchill and Nelson - | 0:08:58 | 0:09:04 | |
it was a tough call between either of them, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
to be the greatest man that ever lived. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
So, yeah, he was very, very British. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
And he wanted us to have an English education | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
so he sacrificed his holidays and quite a lot of money to send us to | 0:09:15 | 0:09:21 | |
the UK for the doubtful privileges of a public school education. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
To the guard room. Quick march. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
I mean, Gib was structured in the classic UK style, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
it was a class-driven society. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
Where I think Gibraltarians | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
generally invented their own place in that class. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
Along with the British military and the Gibraltarians, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
there were the Spaniards. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:45 | |
Gibraltar's workforce came mostly from Spain, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
with some crossing the border daily. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
Slowly numbers increased as cross-border relationships grew | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
and the societies intertwined. The border was the lifeline. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
When Franco began to increase pressure on the Rock, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
it was the border that was first and hardest hit. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
Here on the frontier, there are still some 90 or so cars waiting to | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
get from Gibraltar into Spain. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
Some of them have already been waiting for three days. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
Since October 1964, the Spaniards have only allowed | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
three cars an hour to go through into Spain and the frontier | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
is only open for 15 hours a day - so that's 45 cars a day. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
We're just waiting here on the border. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
Everybody here has been as kind as they possibly could - | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
the English have been very helpful to everybody here. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
The real campaign against Gibraltar had begun. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
Soon things were turned back at the border - | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
even medical supplies were stopped coming in. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
There were difficulties, it was always uncomfortable to go to Spain. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
There was always a queue and paperwork and you were | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
always stopped, and getting in and out of the car | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
and being searched and they were armed, you know. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
Our officers were your friends, you know, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
but their officers were enemies. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
It was always scary because there were no freedoms there. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
My aunt married a Republican. He and his four brothers | 0:11:02 | 0:11:07 | |
saw their father shot dead in front of them. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
These are stories that we've been brought up with. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
The rebels in Spain that escaped with their life escaped here. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:19 | |
And the one thing they taught their children | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
and their grandchildren, never go back to that lot, because | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
I'm lucky to have got here with my head on my shoulders - you see? | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
We were constantly being insulted, on television, on radio, so | 0:11:27 | 0:11:34 | |
our backs were up all the time, you know, it was a silent war. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:39 | |
It's not even about being Spanish. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
They don't want the Gibraltarians to be Spanish, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
they want Gibraltar, period. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
They don't care about the Gibraltarians, we can all get lost. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
Look, if we're not the real owners | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
then I have to say that the first Bossano in Gibraltar, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
who got married here in 1748, was the first guy to be squatting. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
And I want to know how long, how much more than 300 years we have | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
to be squatting before we acquire some kind of rights to this place. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
By 1967, it was clear that both the United Nations and Spain | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
were refusing to acknowledge that Gibraltar | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
wished to remain British. Under increasing pressure from Spain, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
Britain called for a referendum in Gibraltar. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
It was a final bid to show the world where our allegiance lay. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
It was very exciting. We had a special meal, if I remember rightly, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
and everybody had to go to vote, and we went along and waited outside. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
It was your civic duty. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
But a referendum is always a risk, because it's a very drastic step | 0:12:58 | 0:13:04 | |
to take on something as important as this was to us at that time. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
If the result had been 80% or 70%, it would have been | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
very encouraging to the other side, and there was a risk in doing that | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
when we were under siege. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
Ince's Hall, they counted the votes there. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:25 | |
I was there, on the first row. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
Number of votes cast for alternative course A - | 0:13:27 | 0:13:32 | |
..44. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
Number of votes cast for alternative course B - | 0:13:39 | 0:13:45 | |
12,138. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
SHE CHEERS | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
The result came out and 44 voted for Spain. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
Which I thought was, you know, I thought it was pretty wonderful. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
And I remember my parents being utterly livid, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
that it should have been zero, and it was that woman who they knew | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
from down the road, because she was Spanish, she would have voted. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
I remember at the time also, even with the 44, they were saying | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
that there was one who had said yes to Spain because he'd ticked | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
the wrong box, so the suggestion was that it wasn't even 44. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
The people had spoken, the results were overwhelming | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
but the anti-colonial mood was even stronger. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
They took the result of the 1967 referendum | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
to the General Assembly for a vote! | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
And they lost the vote two-to-one! | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
But if there was a defining moment | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
when it was clear to the entire world that Gibraltar wanted | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
to remain British and that was the voice of the people, that was it. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
Despite the wish of the people, | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
the United Nations ordered the decolonisation of Gibraltar. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
Britain resisted, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
she would not abandon Gibraltar to a fascist regime. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
This angered Franco - and the people of Gibraltar united in defence, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:13 | |
but a small group of Gibraltarians had other ideas. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
They called themselves the doves, and opened a dialogue with Spain - | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
there was outrage when their intentions were revealed. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
Basically, there were these five people who phoned me up and said, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:33 | |
look, we've got this letter we'd like to publish. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
And I read the letter and I said, this idea of coming to some sort of | 0:15:37 | 0:15:43 | |
a deal with Spain, I said, this is not going to be accepted very well | 0:15:43 | 0:15:48 | |
in Gibraltar at the moment. On the other hand, you have a right, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
as far as I'm concerned. There's no libel in it, so I will publish it. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:57 | |
And in fact, I said, it's of such interest, | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
if you don't mind, I'll publish it on the front page. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
That was one of my bad moments. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
They were five...five businessmen and lawyers who took the view | 0:16:06 | 0:16:11 | |
that, long term, the best thing was to come to resolution with Spain. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
As I understand it, they went to discuss matters, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
with the Spanish government. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:19 | |
And they thought that was best for Gibraltar. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
Clearly the Gibraltarian people, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
especially having expressed their view in the referendum, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
the year before, would have been... they were probably a bit | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
foolhardy to consider that. You know, possibly politically naive. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
But do you think there's any room for negotiation with Spain? | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
Yes, well, I have said so very clearly that there is room. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
We published certain articles in which | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
we actually put forward proposals for the negotiated settlement. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
They didn't meet with the best possible response from Gibraltar, did they? | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
No, they were very unpopular, they're still very unpopular. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
The people who went to talk to the Spaniards might have thought | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
what they were doing was the right thing to do | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
and in the best interest of Gibraltar. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
They're entitled to have that view. What they're not entitled to do | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
is pretend that they spoke for the rest of us. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
They had no right to do that. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
It came out on the Saturday morning and we had the riots. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:14 | |
It was very frightening | 0:17:14 | 0:17:15 | |
because I'd never experienced any form of disorder or rioting. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:20 | |
PEOPLE CLAMOUR | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
Because you're used to a very peaceful, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
quiet town that had erupted in a matter of hours. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
And everybody was rushing, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:29 | |
and people shouting and women crying, what the hell's going on? | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
And we got a whiff. It was a tear gas bomb. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
SHOUTS AND EXPLOSION | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
I do remember being on the street when a crowd, a mob, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:43 | |
of very angry men went down to the house of one of the Triays, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:51 | |
one of the doves. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
At my house, they broke into windows, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
they burst into the entrance, | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
and they broke everything that they found on their way. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
At the office, they did exactly the same thing, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
they assaulted and beat my brother. They also burnt a yacht of mine. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
And two other doves, they overturned buses belonging | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
to their businesses, they broke into their shops. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
They said, let's go and get the Chronicle. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:24 | |
So I, probably foolishly, on my own, I wandered back, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:30 | |
got in to the Chronicle office and sat there, | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
waiting for the attack, which never came. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
INDISTINCT SHOUTS | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
Well, it wasn't...it wasn't right. It wasn't right. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
At the end of the day, people are entitled to their views. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
I may not agree with them, but they're entitled to them. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
It was a pretty horrific day, episode in our history, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
and certainly not one to be proud of in any shape or form. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
And eventually it's the straw that breaks the camel's back. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
So in itself, the one issue may not have been that important | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
but if you add it to everything else, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
it's like a blood-letting or a release of tension. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
Do you regret publishing that letter? | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
No, from my point of view, it was freedom of expression, | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
which was rapidly disappearing in Gibraltar. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
To put a good word for one of these doves, this man is a good man. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:03 | |
But a lot of people in Gibraltar owe him a lot because he used to | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
take them across to Algeciras when they couldn't go to La Linea, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
to see their families or whatever, but for an emergency, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
even to take people to hospitals and things like that. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
In his own private yacht. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:16 | |
The new one he bought because the original was burnt. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
That man should be honoured for that because, despite what they did | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
to him, you know, like they say - pay a bad debt with a good one. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:29 | |
You know, there you go. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
Next Tuesday, the Spanish government has announced that it's going | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
to close the border to all traffic from La Linea going to Gib. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:43 | |
This will mean a very serious blow to the Gibraltar tourist industry | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
but worse may follow, because the story in Gibraltar is that | 0:20:47 | 0:20:53 | |
the permits of the 5,000 Spanish workmen who every day come | 0:20:53 | 0:20:58 | |
from La Linea to Gib to work in the docks and in the offices | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
and the hotels may be withdrawn. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
And if they are withdrawn, the border may then be closed completely. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
If this is true, it will be in fact the biggest step taken | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
so far by the Franco government in its current blockade of Gibraltar. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
I think the cars was the first. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
And my husband and I had just got married, we got married in '66, | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
September '66, and we were on honeymoon. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
Coming back, driving down, we were in Madrid when my family called us | 0:21:30 | 0:21:37 | |
and said that the frontier was shutting and we had to drive | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
to Lisbon to take a ferry from Lisbon to Gib. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
And thank God, we were lucky, it was the last ferry. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
And we were taking the car back to Gib but just to go round | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
and round in circles, around Gib, because we can't go in to Spain. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
But there it is, that's what we did. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
In '66, things got very bad. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
Spain stopped the female labour force from coming through | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
the frontier, arguing that they were in danger here from the men, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:10 | |
would you believe it. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
I mean, there was no end as to what the Spanish government | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
would invent to offend us. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
So what we did is, we formed the Women's Housewives Association | 0:22:18 | 0:22:24 | |
and, do you know, every single job in hotels, hospitals, private homes, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:29 | |
anywhere, in Gibraltar, was manned by a volunteer woman. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:36 | |
In June 1969, the Spanish government struck its hardest blow | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
against Gibraltar. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
Angered by Britain's refusal to hand over Gibraltar, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
Franco decided to take matters into his own hands. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
Overnight, the Spanish labour force was removed from the Rock and | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
the land frontier was closed. | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
Men who had worked in Gibraltar for a lifetime | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
trooped across the frontier into Spain for the last time. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:07 | |
Can you imagine, stopping them coming in to work? | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
I mean, what would they live from? | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
How very sad that they were all crying and so upset. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
They gradually had to take their things back, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
you know, all their tools and whatever they had. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
There were a lot of people, you see, who had houses, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
mostly mixed marriages with Spaniards and Gibraltarians, | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
who had to make a big decision, either to give up their house | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
in Spain and come to Gibraltar where they had the job. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:38 | |
Or stay in Spain without a job. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
I remember the frontier closure. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
What I remember was the number of people weeping. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:21 | |
That was my memory of it. Just lots of people weeping. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
# Santa | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
# Santa Maria | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
# Santa Maria | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
# Madre de Dios | 0:24:39 | 0:24:45 | |
# Ruega por nosotros pecadores | 0:24:45 | 0:24:52 | |
# Ahora y en la hora de nuestra muerte | 0:24:54 | 0:25:00 | |
# Amen | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
-ALL: -# Ave | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
# Ave Maria | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
# Llena eres de gracia... | 0:25:13 | 0:25:20 | |
And there was so much sadness because there were | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
so many Spanish people who worked here for years who became part of | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
local families and who were suddenly told | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
that's it, it's finished now. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
# Y bendito es el fruto de tu vientre | 0:25:32 | 0:25:37 | |
# Jesus | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
# Santa | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
# Santa Maria | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
# Santa Maria | 0:25:49 | 0:25:54 | |
# Madre de Dios | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
# Ruega por nosotros pecadores | 0:26:00 | 0:26:07 | |
# Ahora y en la hora de nuestra muerte | 0:26:07 | 0:26:13 | |
# Amen. # | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
Well, of course, when the border closed, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
all the Gibraltar cars came back to Gib and they had nowhere to go | 0:26:26 | 0:26:31 | |
so they just went round and round in circles. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
Especially as you got older, the freedom to move around, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
that you...you just couldn't just go in the car or go for the weekend | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
to Spain or whatever, you were pretty much stuck here. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
It was a surprise that somebody could do that, shut off 30,000 people, | 0:26:44 | 0:26:49 | |
inter-marriages, people from both sides of the border. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
So suddenly all these things just disappeared from local life. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
Although, I mean, Spain had been a strong presence here, | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
the man who sold the bread and all this kind of thing. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
It wasn't just that, it was the maliciousness, if you can call it | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
that, to cut off the telephone lines, for example, there was no need. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
That wasn't any part of any political campaign | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
but to shut off the telephone lines was particularly nasty, in my view. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
And the Spaniards were left on the Spanish side with no work | 0:27:16 | 0:27:22 | |
and nothing, absolutely nothing. And that's how they did it. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
They didn't care about their people, so if they didn't care | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
about their own people, how would you expect them to care about us? | 0:27:29 | 0:27:34 | |
You've got to remember, when the frontier closed, there was | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
no industry and no trade in Gibraltar. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
The only way we could survive was through development aid | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
from the UK or hand-outs from the UK or a heavy reliance | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
on the UK military within Gibraltar. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
So it really was a massive weapon to hit us on the head with. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
'When Franco forced on them the choice of Spanish citizenship | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
'or the sack from Spain, where many Gibraltarians lived, they chose | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
'the Rock, in spite of the dismal accommodation available there. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
'Many refugees are still living in very squalid | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
'so-called temporary accommodation.' | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
What sort of bathing accommodation have you got here? | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
None, sir. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:09 | |
What about lavatories? | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
Well, we've got one over there. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
How many families use that? | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
-Er... -SHE COUNTS SOFTLY | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
Nine families. Families. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
What's it like here in the winter? | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
-Terrible. -In what way? | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
Well, water coming through the ceilings, sir, through the windows. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:29 | |
Do you ever regret the fact that you chose to come to Gibraltar? | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
Oh, no. Never. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:33 | |
Don't you think it's a heavy price to pay for being British? | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
Heavy price? I wouldn't say, sir. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
We were a village of 30,000 people under attack in every possible way. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:46 | |
It was an effort to bring us to our knees. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
And, unfortunately for them, and fortunately for us, | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
like happens in many of these cases, when you push communities, | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
it has the opposite effect. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
As far as I was concerned, being so-called locked in, | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
I felt no different. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
There were enough things to be done here to forget to go to Spain. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
MUSIC PLAYS | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
The Rock, for a lot of people, was swinging. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
I mean, people must have drank more than they ever would now. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
Clubs and cocktail parties left, right and centre, | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
there would have been, you know, the military were obsessed | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
with cocktail parties. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:33 | |
The sergeant's mess would be swinging, wife-swapping parties | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
on the balcony and, you know, just everything was happening. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
You made friendships that you hadn't made before | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
because you were going out, now you were there. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
Sport blossomed in Gibraltar because it was a way of... | 0:29:48 | 0:29:53 | |
It was an entertainment. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
Dancing, dances developed. There was a lot of social life developed. | 0:29:56 | 0:30:00 | |
The one habit I remember very distinctly was that the bar | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
that's in the air terminal was super popular. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:10 | |
And people would go down to the bar and see who was | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
coming in even if...not because they were expecting anybody, | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
they'd just go out of curiosity to see who was arriving on the plane. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
After Mass on Sundays, we would all troop into the car | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
and do the Sunday drive and we'd go round Gib | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
in a sort of crocodile line at five miles an hour. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:30 | |
I think people used to call it the Scalextrics, like the toys - | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
you just keep going round in a circuit. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
People went round and round the Rock. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
What you do is, you want to make the best of the situation, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
to show them that you're absolutely fine. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
I think in many ways it was, well, | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
if this is the price I have to pay for being British, I'll do it. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
People started speaking English, | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
people stopped watching Spanish television. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
It had a very dramatic effect on Gibraltar society | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
but one which you took on with a siege mentality. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
You took on - we're not going to be defeated. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
What happened is that Gibraltarians have opened their eyes to the world. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:07 | |
And we know that there's life beyond Spain and beyond the Rock | 0:31:07 | 0:31:13 | |
and there's a big wide world out there which Gibraltarians | 0:31:13 | 0:31:18 | |
started to explore, and that's thanks to Franco. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
Before the frontier closure, we used to go to Spain a lot, obviously, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
And my aunt lived in Algeciras, in Los Pinos, | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
so we used to go there a lot. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
In the summer, we used to spend a couple of weeks with her there. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:40 | |
They had three children. They had Evaristo, Maddy and Antonio. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:45 | |
Maddy is exactly my age. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
We've always, all our lives, adored each other. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
From a very young age. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
My Aunt Magda wanted her sons to be educated in Gibraltar, | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
to get some of the Gibraltarian identity. | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
I mean, we were at school and then suddenly we heard, you know, | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
they're not going to be able to come to school here any more, | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
the frontier's closing, Maddy's going to have to stay in Spain. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
And I remember being devastated. Really devastated. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
And it was awful because I knew that once she went back to Spain | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
I couldn't see her, I couldn't talk to her. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
We had friends in Tangier and we'd call them and say, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
call Magda and ask her, you know, and call us back. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:34 | |
And that's how we could be in touch with my sister in Spain. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
My uncle, your great-uncle Lawrence, | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
he wrote a song and it was accepted, and your grandma sang it. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:58 | |
-Oh, my God. -SHE LAUGHS | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
It was something I never thought I'd ever do. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
MUSIC PLAYS | 0:34:49 | 0:34:51 | |
# Roma es la dulce tierra | 0:34:58 | 0:35:02 | |
# Que me trae recuerdos... # | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
No, I never went to the gates. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
I think there was that feeling of, you know, if they want to | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
shut down the frontier, fair enough, you shut down the frontier. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
I'm not going to go to the frontier and shout across. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
Fijate, ahora me veras en la tele! | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
Well, you know, the frontier closure did affect us. We were the ones | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
who were in the cage and we suffered the scars of that cage. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
Almost everything that's happened, | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
from the closure of the frontier to the campaign of the Spaniards, | 0:36:15 | 0:36:20 | |
each and every one of those elements has helped to weld us | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
more and more into a closer and closer knit community. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:29 | |
You know. I often say the only good thing Franco did in his entire | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
history was to close that border, because it made us look inside. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:37 | |
And ask ourselves, who are we? And we found ourselves. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
Franco died in 1975 but the border did not fully reopen | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
until 1985 - it had been closed for 16 long years. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:53 | |
Spain had agreed to open the frontier several years | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
before it actually did, | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
but, because of the Falklands conflict in particular, it postponed | 0:36:58 | 0:37:03 | |
the opening, no doubt believing that a negative outcome for the UK | 0:37:03 | 0:37:08 | |
in the Falklands might strengthen their hand on the Gibraltar issue. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
'The Spanish government decided not to make a big thing | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
'of the opening but even they might have wished that | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
'the lock had worked rather better. The key just wouldn't turn at first.' | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
It was a very odd event because, you know, I think | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
people had really mixed feelings about it in Gib at the time. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:31 | |
There was a good crowd there. And there was some... I think | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
there was a band or something was playing. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
'The bolt is back, the lights are flashing and the gates are open. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:44 | |
'An historic moment in the history of Gibraltar. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:50 | |
'The land frontier open now. No longer is Gibraltar an island. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
'Everyone was in high spirits. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
THEY SING | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
'And a visiting Welsh Choir was in very good voice.' | 0:37:59 | 0:38:03 | |
I went to see my sister. I went to see Magda. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
So we had a car waiting on the other side, we drove to Magda's house. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:24 | |
And we gave her one of the biggest surprises she ever got in her life. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:29 | |
And when I got to her house, she heard me. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
She was in the garden and she heard me. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
And she couldn't believe it, and she ran out to greet me. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:43 | |
I had people saying to me... come into my office | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
and bang on the table and say, "I will never go across that frontier, | 0:38:48 | 0:38:53 | |
"I'd cut my legs off before I cross the frontier." | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
And then I'd meet them shopping in Continente and say, | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
"How are your legs?" | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
A part of us was scared of enjoying an open frontier too much, | 0:39:04 | 0:39:10 | |
in case they took it away from us again. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
You know, it felt as though somebody was going to say to you, | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
hang on, you're not meant to be here, go back, you know, get back. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
There was that feeling of, is it true? | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
Is it real? Am I allowed? | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
I was four years old when the frontier opened. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
I don't remember a closed border life | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
but crossing has never been easy, even today. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
The ongoing queues at the frontier are a constant | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
reminder that there is that separation between us. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
Sadly, my grandfather is no longer with us. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:47 | |
One thing I do remember him saying | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
is that the problem is not Spain, because we know exactly what | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
Spain wants and it's easy to defend yourself against that. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
If anything, the British Foreign Office is the one you have to keep | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
an eye on, because you're never quite sure what it is they're after. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
We never spoke about these things. I wish we had. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:08 | |
When people say, you know, where were you when 9/11 happened, | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
I remember very distinctly - about to fly out to interview | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
Peter Hain to land a bombshell on Gibraltar. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
You'd had quite a lot of developments | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
in Northern Ireland with the Blair government and I think | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
there was a sense in the UK that they wanted to somehow resolve | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
this Gibraltar issue, get on with it, have good relations with Spain. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:34 | |
I recall travelling to Madrid for my first visit with | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
the Spanish government and beginning to explore the thorny | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
issue of Gibraltar. It just struck me that we | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
needed to do something very radical to try and break this impasse. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
Hain came out and started fishing around. Had met Caruana, | 0:40:48 | 0:40:52 | |
was talking to people and, of course, it's the biggest mistake, | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
thinking that it's worth getting into trying to solve a little | 0:40:55 | 0:41:00 | |
problem like Gibraltar, which is such a big problem for Spain. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
I want to reassure the people of Gibraltar that they have | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
nothing to fear from dialogue with Spain, | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
which we're conducting through the Brussels process. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
We did not agree to take part in the dialogue that they were | 0:41:12 | 0:41:16 | |
already having, not telling us what they were discussing, | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
and it's, with hindsight, clear that what they wanted was, | 0:41:20 | 0:41:24 | |
by hook or by crook, to get me to participate in that dialogue. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
Not because they were going to pay any heed to what I said. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
They had already cooked up the deal themselves. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
What they wanted was my presence to give it democratic legitimacy. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:38 | |
And Peter Hain called me from the airport actually and said, | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
"Look, can you come over to London next week | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
"and I'll give you an interview." | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
So I flew out and the interview was so striking for me because it | 0:41:48 | 0:41:53 | |
sort of teased out as I went along with it, that I realised, you know, | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
in the middle of this, that they had a plan. | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
And Britain started trying to pursue this particular programme | 0:41:59 | 0:42:04 | |
of some kind of a joint deal. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
It was totally outrageous. I mean, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
how can this man move to negotiate on behalf of the British population | 0:42:08 | 0:42:16 | |
of Gibraltar without even consulting the elected leaders of Gibraltar? | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
Tony Blair, who was very close as Prime Minister to Aznar, the Spanish | 0:42:20 | 0:42:25 | |
Prime Minister, agreed that we needed to try and find a solution. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:30 | |
It was very much a sort of Number Ten fantasy that had come to saying, | 0:42:30 | 0:42:35 | |
"Well, we can do this, because we can do anything." | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
The essence of the deal was that | 0:42:38 | 0:42:42 | |
they would exercise joint sovereignty. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
For Britain, this was for ever. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
Joint sovereignty for ever, as if sovereignty, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
which ultimately boils down to power and allegiance and affinity, | 0:42:51 | 0:42:56 | |
as if that could be shared for five minutes, let alone for 500 years. | 0:42:56 | 0:43:01 | |
I couldn't, as Britain's Europe Minister, even Tony Blair | 0:43:01 | 0:43:06 | |
could not have, somehow signed a co-sovereignty agreement without | 0:43:06 | 0:43:10 | |
the Gibraltarians giving their acquiescence to it, of course not. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:15 | |
But what you had to do is sign the agreement | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
and then discuss it with and present it to the people of Gibraltar. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:22 | |
If there were aspects of it maybe that they wanted to revisit, | 0:43:22 | 0:43:26 | |
we could have looked at that, of course with Spanish agreement, | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
and said yes or no. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:31 | |
It then becomes, you know, a very distraught | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
visit for Jack Straw, who had to try and come and sell it. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
How did that go? | 0:43:38 | 0:43:40 | |
Well, I mean, he was spat on, | 0:43:40 | 0:43:41 | |
and there was a lot of tension in the air. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:43 | |
-Traitors! -Listen to us. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:45 | |
But he was a brave man to go there. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:47 | |
I mean, he knew he was going in to the lion's den and he chose to go. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:52 | |
He felt that he could offer some kind of explanation, | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
which of course he couldn't. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:57 | |
Well, I wasn't... Yes, what do you expect from the man? | 0:43:57 | 0:44:01 | |
He's an absolute shyster. But we weren't having it. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:05 | |
That is one of the biggest fears Gibraltar has. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:07 | |
They fear a sellout. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:09 | |
And the nearest we got to that was with Jack Straw when | 0:44:09 | 0:44:11 | |
he actually told Spain, yes, we're going to come to an agreement, | 0:44:11 | 0:44:15 | |
we are both going to rule Gibraltar. Hey, hang on a minute! | 0:44:15 | 0:44:17 | |
Any change in the sovereignty of Gibraltar will be subject | 0:44:17 | 0:44:22 | |
to the consent of the Gibraltarian people, which in practice means | 0:44:22 | 0:44:27 | |
a submission of these proposals to a referendum in Gibraltar. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:32 | |
The Government has criticised Gibraltar's decision | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
to hold its own referendum on the colony's future. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:38 | |
Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said it wouldn't stop negotiations | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
going ahead with Spain about sharing sovereignty. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
Don't you understand, Mr Straw and Mr Hain, that by committing, | 0:44:44 | 0:44:50 | |
in principle, to the principle of our future, | 0:44:50 | 0:44:54 | |
you are violating our right to decide our own future. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
I don't think that could have been done in any different way. | 0:44:57 | 0:44:59 | |
I don't think, given the politics on the Rock, | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
given the fact that people feel besieged by Spain, | 0:45:02 | 0:45:06 | |
feel constantly betrayed by London, that is a kind of a mindset. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:12 | |
I do not think you'd have got anywhere if you'd | 0:45:12 | 0:45:15 | |
just allowed a veto to happen, from the Rock, from the beginning. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:19 | |
And this is where Peter Caruana was | 0:45:19 | 0:45:21 | |
so right in what he did in calling that referendum. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:25 | |
You know, this is against human rights, | 0:45:25 | 0:45:27 | |
what you're trying to do here. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:29 | |
When 20,000 Gibraltarians have cast their vote, to attempt to deny that | 0:45:29 | 0:45:34 | |
that is not the political and free expression of the democratic | 0:45:34 | 0:45:38 | |
wishes of the people of Gibraltar, will lack all credibility. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:41 | |
But that is a matter for them and their own political consciences. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:45 | |
For the yes vote - 187. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:49 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
(FAINT) For the yes vote, 187. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:53 | |
PEOPLE CHANT No! No! No! | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
For the no vote - 17,900. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:07 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:46:07 | 0:46:09 | |
One of the positive things of this whole sorry and sad exercise | 0:46:17 | 0:46:20 | |
was that it flushed out Madrid. What it really did do, ultimately, is | 0:46:20 | 0:46:24 | |
that when Madrid was offered a joint sovereignty package, notwithstanding | 0:46:24 | 0:46:29 | |
lack of Gibraltarian consent, they could not come to accept it. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:33 | |
I realise I'm not welcome on the Rock. I realise people | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
think I was up to all sorts of dark plots to try | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
and do Gibraltarians down. Believe me, what I was doing was | 0:46:39 | 0:46:44 | |
finding a solution to this problem and I negotiated it with Madrid. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:49 | |
It's a shame they walked away. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:52 | |
Well, after the defeat of the joint sovereignty project, | 0:46:52 | 0:46:56 | |
we actually extracted from them, solemnly and in writing, declared at | 0:46:56 | 0:47:01 | |
the United Nations, that the United Kingdom government would never again | 0:47:01 | 0:47:04 | |
even sit down with Spain to discuss sovereignty without our consent. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:10 | |
So it was a thoroughly disreputable period of time, | 0:47:10 | 0:47:14 | |
it was a thoroughly worrying period of time, | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
challenging time for Gibraltar as a people and government, but, | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
having survived it and won, we then actually emerged with some prizes. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:26 | |
On my wedding day, I wonder what the future holds | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
for generations of Gibraltarians to come. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:40 | |
It's almost as if the only people who recognise | 0:47:41 | 0:47:45 | |
the Gibraltarians are the Gibraltarians themselves. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:48 | |
And we feel this need to constantly reassert our identity. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:51 | |
And our right as a people tends to be questioned so often and by | 0:47:51 | 0:47:54 | |
so many that we feel this need for reassertion almost as if to convince | 0:47:54 | 0:47:58 | |
ourselves, you know, that we deserve to be here, sort of thing, you know. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:03 | |
The Foreign Office has never defended us. We've had | 0:48:03 | 0:48:07 | |
huge queues at the frontier, they've never once retaliated. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:11 | |
We're expendable, we're not worth the fight. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:15 | |
But it's worth the fight for us? | 0:48:15 | 0:48:16 | |
It's worth the fight for us, yeah. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:18 | |
Ever since I've been alive, all I've known is Spain trying to suppress us | 0:48:18 | 0:48:24 | |
into becoming Spanish and, as a friend of mine once said, you know, | 0:48:24 | 0:48:30 | |
you'd be foolish to walk up the aisle with a man who's beating you. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:36 | |
The Spanish closure of the border left a deep scar on my parents' | 0:48:37 | 0:48:41 | |
and grandparents' generation, | 0:48:41 | 0:48:43 | |
but I hope things will be different for my generation. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:45 | |
We grew up with our family on the other side - | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
and this is a family we don't want to lose again. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
We spend more time in Spain now, and, unlike my parents' | 0:48:51 | 0:48:55 | |
and grandparents', my wedding will take place in Spain. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:58 | |
The beauty of Gibraltar is how all these different ethnic peoples | 0:48:58 | 0:49:04 | |
have integrated to become one family | 0:49:04 | 0:49:08 | |
and becoming one family is vital for the future. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:13 | |
Gibraltarians have come from all over the world, my family | 0:49:14 | 0:49:18 | |
came from Italy, we have Maltese, Spaniards, | 0:49:18 | 0:49:20 | |
and Portuguese that have come together to form today's Gibraltar. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:23 | |
They're all Gibraltarians, irrespective of where they come from. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
So if you ask me what a Gibraltarian is, it's somebody who's been | 0:49:26 | 0:49:29 | |
there for a considerable period of time and shares the identity | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
and ideals that we all do. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:34 | |
I just hope that one day they change their ways | 0:49:34 | 0:49:36 | |
and accept Gib for what it is. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:39 | |
And the day that happens is the day like in 100 years, | 0:49:39 | 0:49:43 | |
we'll integrate, I'm sure. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:47 | |
I don't know, I like my Gibraltar. We have a saying in Spanish. We say, | 0:49:47 | 0:49:50 | |
la cabra siempre tira para el monte - | 0:49:50 | 0:49:52 | |
the goat always goes back to the rock. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:54 | |
You know, perhaps I'm one of the those. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:57 | |
HE LAUGHS There's no place like home. | 0:49:57 | 0:49:59 | |
We as a community, | 0:49:59 | 0:50:01 | |
no matter how small we are, we have elected to have this way of life. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:07 | |
INDISTINCT SPEECH | 0:50:12 | 0:50:15 | |
Today I am offered marriage advice - | 0:50:15 | 0:50:17 | |
how to unite two different people and two different families. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:22 | |
The main foundation for a happy marriage is real love. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:27 | |
Respect each other, has to be equal, the moment one side fails, | 0:50:27 | 0:50:34 | |
the marriage will stumble and | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
that is what's happening between Spain and us. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:40 | |
We're still friends, even though | 0:50:40 | 0:50:44 | |
one of the partners in this marriage keeps knocking us. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:50:46 | 0:50:48 | |
I think, if my grandfather were here, his advice would be | 0:50:54 | 0:50:57 | |
to never forget who you are, or where you're from - | 0:50:57 | 0:51:01 | |
we are Gibraltarians and Gibraltar is our home. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
I hope this film will act as a reminder to my generation | 0:51:06 | 0:51:09 | |
of the struggles our parents and grandparents went through | 0:51:09 | 0:51:12 | |
to protect our rights to call Gibraltar home. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
And that it will also help the world understand us better. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:19 | |
In the meantime, we can only hope for a happy future. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:23 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 |