A Century of Scottish Sundays: 100 Years of the Sunday Post


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It's late Saturday night in Dundee,

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and the Sunday Post is rolling off the press.

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At full tilt, these machines can print 90,000 copies an hour.

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It's a complex, high-tech process,

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but this stronghold of popular journalism,

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Oor Wullie and The Broons, is now a century old.

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The Post has sometimes been dismissed as cosy and couthy

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but it's a record-breaking newspaper that, for generations,

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has been an essential part of the Scottish Sunday.

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It was always there when I was growing up. I don't remember

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the first time I ever saw it. It just was part of the family.

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It's a sparky paper as well. It's got a lot of energy, erm...

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and it can be quite cheeky as well and I like that.

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I love the Sunday Post, it's great.

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It goes back to my childhood because it's what we all grew up with

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and every single Sunday it was so special.

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It was giving people reading the material that they wanted.

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It wasn't just giving them short change in any form at all.

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They got a decent read every Sunday

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and, of course, they had Oor Wullie and The Broons as well.

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What a package!

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Wednesday morning.

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The Sunday Post's senior staff gather in its Glasgow newsroom.

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They begin by dissecting last Sunday's paper.

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A really good paper, I thought, this week.

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Well done to those on the late team

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on the teenager in the party drug tragedy,

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if it turns out it was a party drug which we need to follow through on.

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That was excellent in getting that in for central and the Dundee editions.

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MUFFLED CONVERSATION

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Now they have to produce next Sunday's paper.

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This week, who's got the biggest story, who's going to hit me first?

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Premium content only.

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Donald Martin is only the sixth editor

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of the Sunday Post in a century.

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He's the first not to be DC Thomson trained and he's very aware

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that he's editing a paper that is an icon to its lifelong readers.

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I lost my dad when he was only...when I was only 12,

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and I think it made my sister and my mum and I even closer

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and I think that the Sunday Post just sort of epitomises that really,

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you know, just the family and being together and sharing things,

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and it's...it was special.

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There's no smut, there's no... You know, it's safe,

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I call it a safe paper, you know, if you've got youngsters about.

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So, but, yeah, no, it's always been the paper of choice,

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even the far back as, er, as a child.

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We're anchored in our community and our readership

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and their values.

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But the Sunday Post was a child of conflict, born out

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of the horrors that was World War I, in a city that suffered badly.

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In Dundee, they commemorate their war dead.

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Scottish servicemen began to die within weeks

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of Britain's declaration of war against Germany in August, 1914.

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From then on, the casualties mounted -

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thousand upon thousand upon thousand.

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Many of the Dundonians killed,

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served in their local regiment - The Black Watch.

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LAST POST PLAYS

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There wasn't a family in the whole of Dundee that didn't

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suffer a loss at that time. You can still feel

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the loss of what is 100 years ago now.

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The city, like every other community in Scotland,

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was transfixed by the war - hungry for news from the front

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and the casualty lists released by the War Office.

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In Dundee, reporting the war fell to the city's own newspaper group -

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DC Thomson - the company that put that third J

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in the city's reputation for "jute, jam and journalism."

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DC Thomson still means journalism.

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It's Friday afternoon in Dundee.

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Editor Donald Martin is talking to his News Editor in Glasgow.

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Donald and his team have got just 36 hours to pull

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together 96 pages of news, sport, comment, features, gossip,

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cartoons, puzzles and pictures that will make up the next issue

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of the Sunday Post.

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A quick review of where we're at.

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Nose-clipper one again, not worth a page lead again.

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I'm bored with it, so can we move that one further back?

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'We don't really know what the splash is.'

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We've got maybe four or five really, really strong contenders

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and that's normal for this stage in the week.

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Most of our stories, in fact,

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I would say about 20 or 30 stories are all exclusive, so we can play

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around with it and it's about what's the right balance on the front page.

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'How strong - do we want to do a human interest one or a news one?

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'And we'll fight about that later on in the day,

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'but won't decide till maybe about four o'clock tomorrow.'

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Stag one's good. Have we got that to ourselves?

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-Yeah, definitely.

-Absolutely? She's not...

-Definitely.

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Front page mentions - stag woman good enough?

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-I think so.

-Yeah.

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'If something happens, then we deal with it,

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'the adrenaline gets you through.

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'We've normally got several options for the front

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'and I can see me right up to half an hour before deadline

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'changing what we decide to do.'

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Talk to you again in a couple of hours

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and see where we get to, all right? Right, thanks a lot. Cheers.

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-Right, are you happy moving those around?

-Yeah, OK.

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So we've changed those around

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and at the moment I think it's looking all right.

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A century ago, in 1914,

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journalism in Dundee was already an adrenaline-fuelled industry.

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Dundee was a city crowded with news-hungry workers.

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Since 1901, the school leaving age in Scotland had been 14,

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so this was a literate society.

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With no radio or TV,

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the popular press was the undisputed mass media of the day.

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The city's home-grown publishing company was DC Thomson.

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The Thomsons had been a Fife family who,

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from the mid-19th century, had built a successful shipping line.

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The Thomsons started off in Fife,

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around about the Pittenweem, Anstruther area.

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The earliest Thomson that has a connection to the business

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was a Captain William Thomson, but, unfortunately,

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he went down with his ship, the Christian, in 1828.

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Now his son, who was also William,

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he wanted to go to sea, but his mother just wouldn't allow him

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so he was apprenticed as a draper, first of all,

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and then travelled to Dundee

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to take up a position in the drapery business in the city here

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and then, despite what his mother had warned him about,

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he bought a share in a ship and eventually that grew

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into the Thomson line of steamers which traded all over the world.

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Thomson's diversification into newspapers began in 1866.

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William Thomson was approached

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to take a small share in the Courier & Argus as it was then.

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He took a share in that and then eventually

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he took ownership outright.

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And all of a sudden, he was into publishing

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and had ownership of, at than time, a by-weekly paper.

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In 1884, William put one of his sons,

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23-year-old David Coupar Thomson,

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in charge of the family's growing publishing interests.

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Now, DC Thomson is an interesting character.

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He was quite young, about 23, when he took over

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and he was into absolutely everything

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to get this newspaper up and running, the Courier,

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and also the Weekly News which they owned as well by then.

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Dundee was a vibrant industrial city.

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The jute industry was thriving.

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The Camperdown Works alone employed nearly 5,000 people,

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5,000 potential readers.

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Dundee was a place where an ambitious young newspaperman

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could build a business.

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And he did that by virtually doing everything.

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He wrote to people asking for stories, he would send

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self-addressed envelopes out to people and say,

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"Look, if anything happens in your area, pop it in the post to us

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"and I'll pass it on to the editor."

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But he also did things like buy new machinery.

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He was very innovative.

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In 1905, DC Thomson & Company,

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was set up as a separate business to publish newspapers.

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Shortly after, the ships were sold.

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From now on in Dundee, Thomson meant journalism.

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There was various things happening in Victorian times

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which helped DC Thomson's expansion.

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I mean, there's the great rise in literacy rates.

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In the old days, you might get one Courier going into a mill

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to be read by the only literate person to all the mill people there,

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but by, I suppose, the 1860s,

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John Menzie opened up his first station bookshop.

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The first paper he handled was The People's Journal, in fact.

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If you look at the very first newspapers in Scotland

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they are all priced seven pence, eight pence or nine pence,

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but with the abolition of the taxes

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on paper and on ink and on advertising

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in the 1850 to 1860s - as soon as that happened

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newspapers like the Dundee Courier, the Weekly News and things like that

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were able to sell for a penny or a half pence

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and with the expanded readership, you can see where

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the increase in circulation started to come.

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In 1911, Thomson commissioned this documentary

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about his flagship newspaper, the Courier.

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To review it, here's Maurice Smith - film-maker,

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business journalist and the author of a History Of The Scottish Press.

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I think this film shows DC Thomson as a very self-confident company,

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based in a city that was probably approaching its peak itself.

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It was a strong, industrial

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and commercial city, trading internationally from the Tay

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and DC Thomson reflected that kind of self-confidence, I think.

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Although they were always a regional publisher,

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they were a very, erm, a very wealthy publisher from an early stage

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and as a family business, probably a company that was used to

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making what we'd now call strategic investments and taking risks -

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very entrepreneurial company.

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And then the Great War came.

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# Keep the home fires burning

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# While your hearts are yearning... #

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As thousands of Scots left for the front, Dundee's appetite for news

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from the trenches was insatiable - seven days a week.

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But DC Thomson didn't have a Sunday newspaper, so quickly gave

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its existing newspaper, the Saturday Post, a special Sunday edition.

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People wanted to know what was going on

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and the only reliable source of news was newspapers,

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and technology was allowing the newspapers

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to get dispatches from the front much more quickly.

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The Saturday Post Sunday Special, intended to last for the duration

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of the war, became one of the most successful newspapers

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in international journalism, and a Scottish icon - the Sunday Post.

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The new paper had a close bond with

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local troops, especially the territorial part-time soldiers

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of the 4th Battalion Black Watch.

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The 4th Black Watch, "Dundee's Own", was very special.

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It enjoyed a special bond, a special link, with the city.

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While only a small percentage of men who joined the colours from Dundee

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joined the 4th Black Watch, it was Dundee's own battalion.

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It was sourced almost entirely from the three Js,

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the classic jute, jam and journalism. We took...

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The 4th came from the mills - the Craigie Mills, the Ashton Mill,

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the Manhattan Mill - things like that.

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The Courier sent over 300 men to the war eventually,

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so more than any other publishing house outside London.

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So there was that locality of it - it was brothers and sons and nephews.

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Everyone knew each other.

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For the most part, people in Dundee,

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at least for the first two years of the war, experienced

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events of the Western Front through the lens of the 4th Black Watch.

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There was a close, close link between the two.

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The Post was there when the 4th Battalion first boarded trains

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in Dundee on their way to the front in France.

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They leave with a strength of around 900 men.

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The battalion was described as a well set up gritty battalion,

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ready to rough it with the best of them, and the city of Dundee

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turns out in huge numbers to see them on their way.

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Within weeks, news came through that

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Dundee's Own had received a bloody baptism of fire at Neuve Chapelle.

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With many of their staff in the Army, DC Thomson was ideally

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placed to report the battle.

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The various journalists, editors, who served with the 4th Black Watch

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who became known as the fighter writers

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certainly strengthened the link between the 4th Battalion

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and DC Thomson - the papers back home.

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They were all sending home letters, sketches,

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reports from the battlefield.

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What we actually have here is a copy of the Post Sunday Special

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from Sunday March 14th, 1915,

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and basically it's a report on, as you can see there,

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the glorious victory of Neuve Chapelle,

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very much about being the latest war news so what you're actually getting

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here is eye-witness accounts of what actually happened.

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Fred Tait was one of the Post's fighter-writers.

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Among the fronts he served on was the bloodbath of Gallipoli.

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Many years after Fred's death, his daughter, Margaret Anton,

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discovered his diaries.

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He went into the recruiting office

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and he said he went in at the wrong door

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and found he had joined the RAMC, so he ended up as a stretcher

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bearer and was sent out to Gallipoli and was there for several years,

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which sounded absolutely horrible. He wrote diaries when he was there,

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wrote back to the paper, to the Saturday Post,

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"From Our Man In Gallipoli." Didn't give a name.

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It was more or less what he had in the diaries.

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"I was carrying a patient who had been badly

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"hit by shrapnel in the head back to the dressing-station

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"and on our way down, along a narrow trench we passed

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"a half-battalion of men on their way up to reinforce the firing line.

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"As there was not room to pass,

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"we laid the stretcher down till the road was clear.

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"In single file the men marched past,

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"and about the middle of the line one slim,

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"young fellow happened to glance down at the wounded man on the stretcher.

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"Instantly his expression changed. 'My brother,' he exclaimed."

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What we actually have here is an article

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from the Post Sunday Special from July 15th 1917 and what makes this

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article so special is it's actually an article by DC Thomson himself.

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He wasn't content to get reports back from the front line.

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He actually had to go there and see it himself so he actually

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took his chauffeur across there and they toured some of the battle sites

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and then he sent back three reports which were published one after

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the other in the Sunday Post or the Post Sunday Special as it was then.

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"We visit a part of the front and leaving the cars

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"and putting on our helmets, go along reserve trenches well-manned

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"with strong, cheery young fellows, one of whom, on being

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"told we are civilian visitors, tells us with a smile, 'You're lucky.'"

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On 25 September 1914, "Dundee's Own" went over the top again, at Loos.

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The Battle of Loos has often been described as "Scotland's Somme"

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and I think it deserved the title of a Scottish battle.

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Some 30,000 Scots go over the top that day,

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including 36 Scottish battalions representing just about every

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Scottish regiment in France at that time.

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Now, the Dundee 4th Battalion at that time was down to 420 men,

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from the 900 that set off from Dundee with bands playing,

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the crowds cheering. There was almost a party going on in Dundee

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when they left. So within six months they were down to 400 men.

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ROARING

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'They go over the top at six o'clock. Within minutes they capture the German front line trenches.

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'They capture the reserve trenches, at no small cost,

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'and push on to the more heavily fortified positions beyond.'

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The problem is the battalions on either flank have not been able to take their objectives

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and consequently the 4th are left with their flanks open and,

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as the day wears on, they come under increasingly intense shell fire,

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German counter attacks, and eventually are forced to fall back.

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And at the end of that day

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a battalion that started with 20 officers and 420 men,

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of that number 19 officers and 230 men have been killed or wounded.

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Something like 150 wounded. 159 killed was the estimate.

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It had a massive effect on Dundee.

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It had a massive effect on Scotland, but Dundee in particular.

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What you actually see here is an article which is about incidents

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at the front line which happened to local people,

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so for instance you see here, "A Sergeant's Tribute to his Captain",

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and I'll just read a little bit of this out.

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The Sergeant writes,

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"A Company being the first to go over had to stand the brunt.

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"I know that you will be doubly grieved to hear that

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"Captain Cunningham was among the missing.

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"I cannot get any accurate account about his death.

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"He was last seen on the German front line cheering his men on.

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"What happened there to him no one can tell.

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"The night before as he was leaving to go up,

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"he came and shook hands with me and wished me good luck.

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"As he led his party down the village road I watched him.

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"His steady step, his erect head,

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"gave the men all the encouragement they required.

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"The men knew he was a soldier and would follow him anywhere.

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"Our boys had lost an officer whose name will always be remembered and revered.

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"Captain Shepherd is also missing.

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"You will also know that Davie Hutton, W King

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"and Donald Gow are gone.

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"I buried Donald Gow in a nice little cemetery and all our fellows

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"are in one corner."

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So what you're actually getting there is the eye witness

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of the deaths of these men, these local men who would probably

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have been known to people who worked for DC Thomson and then that's why

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you find articles so closely related to the community in these pages.

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The 4th Black Watch has left a lasting legacy

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on the city of Dundee.

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There were very few families untouched by the war,

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particularly after Loos. So many men died.

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Chances are whether you had a member or your family serving,

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you would know someone who served in the 4th Black Watch.

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And it still has resonance today, the loss, the sacrifice.

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And it's marked by the memorial behind us, unveiled in 1925,

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the Law Memorial. The beacon on the Law is lit on very few occasions

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across the year, but one of them being 25th September

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to mark the sacrifice, the losses of the 4th Black Watch.

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So, the Sunday Post reported the war.

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It did so right through the whole conflict

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and when the war ended it had been so successful that management

0:20:420:20:47

took the decision to keep it and to rename it the Sunday Post in 1919.

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Actually, on quite an unforgettable date because it was launched

0:20:510:20:54

as the Sunday Post on the 19th January 1919, so 19-1-19.

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The Sunday Post was no longer a supplement, but a newspaper

0:21:020:21:06

in its own right, with its own quirks, character and loyal readers.

0:21:060:21:10

It was the voice of douce Presbyterian, serious,

0:21:140:21:21

conservative with a small C Scottish attitudes.

0:21:210:21:26

It didn't take risks, it certainly wasn't racy by any description.

0:21:260:21:30

It was a newspaper product that knew its audience very well.

0:21:300:21:37

Its formula of providing a packed, good value, easily read, family paper has worked for a century.

0:21:370:21:44

There was no reading the paper till Sunday lunch.

0:21:480:21:51

I remember that very vividly.

0:21:510:21:53

And then after Sunday lunch, it was like all bets are null

0:21:530:21:56

and void and now we get the paper out,

0:21:560:21:58

but yeah, there was very much that divvying up of the paper.

0:21:580:22:01

It was like some favourite relative had come to visit you,

0:22:010:22:05

you favourite uncle or something.

0:22:050:22:07

Because you pulled out the Fun section which was cleverly

0:22:070:22:10

placed in the middle of the paper so you didn't have to disrupt the rest of the paper.

0:22:100:22:14

Just take out the Fun section and there it was

0:22:140:22:16

and the rest of the family could get on with reading the important stuff.

0:22:160:22:20

My mum's eyesight wasn't very good

0:22:200:22:22

and as she got older it was harder for her to read the paper,

0:22:220:22:26

so we used to sit and I used to read all the sort of snippets

0:22:260:22:30

that I knew she would like, and we always did the quiz.

0:22:300:22:34

It's almost like one-to-one.

0:22:340:22:36

You're having this conversation with the newspaper.

0:22:360:22:39

The centre pages with these quirky things like

0:22:390:22:42

"The dangers lurking in your tea towel" and things like that

0:22:420:22:45

that really made you think, "What?"

0:22:450:22:48

I grew up in Belfast which you would think wouldn't mean much

0:22:480:22:51

of the Sunday Post experience, but actually it was quite the opposite.

0:22:510:22:54

My parents came from Banffshire and my mum was from Wick

0:22:540:22:57

and they were both firm Sunday Post readers

0:22:570:23:00

so we had it delivered somehow, I don't know how, every weekend

0:23:000:23:04

and it was read copiously for the rest of the week.

0:23:040:23:07

Saturday evening in the Sunday Post newsroom, and the pressure is on.

0:23:100:23:14

A wee bit further behind than I would like, I have to say.

0:23:140:23:18

22, 23, who's on that?

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Because that should be about ready.

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Chae, were you doing that?

0:23:230:23:25

The stag woman story, is it finished?

0:23:250:23:27

We'll try not to panic at this time.

0:23:270:23:30

The front page at the moment, the guy who had been wrongly told

0:23:300:23:35

he had terminal lung cancer.

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So for three years he had been misdiagnosed,

0:23:370:23:40

which was obviously quite horrific, and it wasn't just one doctor.

0:23:400:23:45

That's probably the strongest human interest story.

0:23:450:23:49

But there is concern over Donald's potential front page lead story.

0:23:490:23:54

I've been speaking to him throughout the week

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and he's had bereavement of a close relative

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and whilst his close relative died this week, the burial,

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the funeral is going to take place on Monday

0:24:070:24:09

and I'm just a bit concerned that if we run this on a splash

0:24:090:24:12

on the front on Sunday and it gets picked up

0:24:120:24:15

by the papers for Sunday, for Monday, then he's going to be quite upset

0:24:150:24:19

if he sees him self in the papers

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on a Monday when he's going to a funeral.

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Are we going to be able to hold that for a week till a better time?

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I'm not convinced.

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It's such a good story that I have a feeling it'll be out

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there by next week if we hold it.

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It's not our style.

0:24:350:24:36

We get a backlash. I know it's a great story.

0:24:360:24:39

It's getting a wee bit tight but hopefully we'll make a decision

0:24:390:24:43

in about half an hour.

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We've got a reputation for treating our readers right and we won't do

0:24:450:24:49

anything that will upset them.

0:24:490:24:50

The great thing is our reporters will be able to knock on the door

0:24:500:24:53

and say, "We're from the Sunday Post." People will talk to us.

0:24:530:24:57

They'll talk to us because they know we'll treat them right.

0:24:570:24:59

And this is a case where we might not be treating them well,

0:24:590:25:02

just because of the timing.

0:25:020:25:04

So we'll find out and if the timing is not good for them

0:25:040:25:07

we've got to hold it even though we lost a great story.

0:25:070:25:10

It might appear somewhere else,

0:25:100:25:12

but at the end of the day that's just one story.

0:25:120:25:14

We've got 100 years of tradition and reputation to maintain.

0:25:140:25:18

Assistant Editor Iain Harrison is talking to the reporter who

0:25:180:25:22

is covering the cancer story.

0:25:220:25:25

Janet's spoken to the family, told them to the extent

0:25:260:25:32

that the piece is being used.

0:25:320:25:33

They are aware that it's going in this weekend,

0:25:330:25:36

and that she's been speaking to them fairly regularly on and off

0:25:360:25:39

all week, so she reckons that we should run with it

0:25:390:25:41

and there won't be any issues.

0:25:410:25:43

-Everybody happy then? Are we all agreed on a splash?

-Yes.

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The day after this front page of 1926 was published,

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more than a million and a half British workers downed tools

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in support of miners who faced a pay cut.

0:26:000:26:03

Among the strikers were the union members responsible

0:26:030:26:06

for producing DC Thomson papers.

0:26:060:26:09

Management managed to keep the presses rolling,

0:26:090:26:11

and the General Strike collapsed after just ten days,

0:26:110:26:15

but David Coupar Thomson never forgave the unions.

0:26:150:26:18

Strikers returning to work for his company had to renounce union membership.

0:26:180:26:24

DC Thomson took a decision not to recognise trade unions after

0:26:280:26:33

the General Strike and stuck to that for generations and became,

0:26:330:26:39

you know, when I came into the newspaper industry

0:26:390:26:43

in the late 1970s and early '80s, DC Thomson was known to

0:26:430:26:48

be a non-trade union company and that was very rare at that time.

0:26:480:26:54

I know that people, socialists,

0:26:540:26:56

would not allow the Post to come into the house.

0:26:560:26:59

But, generally speaking, it was one of the most widely read

0:26:590:27:03

newspapers and on a Monday morning at school you had to talk about what

0:27:030:27:08

Oor Wullie was getting up to at the weekend or The Broons and whatnot.

0:27:080:27:12

So your weekend wasn't your weekend without the Sunday Post.

0:27:120:27:17

The 1930s, "The Hungry '30s," were hard times.

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In 1932 unemployment in Scotland was nearly 28%.

0:27:270:27:31

The following year, groups of workless, hungry men

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marched to London in protest.

0:27:340:27:37

'Dundee is an industrial city dominated by this

0:27:390:27:42

'monolith of an industry, jute, but when all the markets

0:27:420:27:47

'disappeared around 1929, 1930, 1931,

0:27:470:27:50

'thousands were thrown out of work in the industry.

0:27:500:27:53

'Something like 30,000 people were out of a job in one industry alone.'

0:27:530:27:58

Times were hard, but readers of the Sunday Post were promised

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a bit of fun for the one penny cover price.

0:28:040:28:07

In what was to become one of the most successful ventures

0:28:100:28:13

in British publishing history, the Post launched a Fun section,

0:28:130:28:17

full of comic characters that were destined to become Scottish icons.

0:28:170:28:22

In March 1936 an eight page Fun section was included for the

0:28:220:28:27

first time and that Fun section included Oor Wullie and The Broons.

0:28:270:28:32

So Oor Wullie and The Broons were in the very first one

0:28:320:28:35

and they've been in the Sunday Post Fun section ever since,

0:28:350:28:38

I'm pleased to say.

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This is the original, the Sunday Post Fun section number one,

0:28:400:28:45

that was a four-page insert into the Sunday Post newspaper.

0:28:450:28:50

What it was, was you pulled it out

0:28:500:28:53

and the instructions at the top were,

0:28:530:28:55

"Give this to the young folks".

0:28:550:28:57

So you handed it to your kids who would cleverly fold it

0:28:570:29:01

and cut it and you had an eight-page little comic.

0:29:010:29:05

This is a 1939 Oor Wullie and it shows Oor Wullie's family,

0:29:050:29:08

but there is another member because Oor Wullie had a little brother.

0:29:080:29:12

He was first seen in '37 and he lasted into '39

0:29:120:29:16

and disappeared one day.

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Whether he was in the back cupboard, or whether he was in Barlinnie,

0:29:180:29:22

I don't know, but he disappeared. He was just never to be seen.

0:29:220:29:25

And there's maybe a story sometime down the line of what happened

0:29:250:29:29

to Oor Wullie's brother. I'm not sure.

0:29:290:29:31

Oor Wullie and The Broons were created by artist Dudley D Watkins.

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I don't think it's wrong to say that he was a genius in his field,

0:29:410:29:46

Dudley D Watkins. I think his stuff the test,

0:29:460:29:50

stands against any other comic artist in the world, all the greats.

0:29:500:29:54

The fact that most of the stuff he wrote was in Scots -

0:29:540:29:58

apart from The Dandy or The Beano - that he's been, you know,

0:29:580:30:03

not that many people know about him in a worldwide scale

0:30:030:30:06

but he should be.

0:30:060:30:07

I think he's one of the most outstanding comic artists ever.

0:30:070:30:11

Every Scot was aware of the Oor Wullie book

0:30:110:30:15

through the Sunday Post, through his Christmas books,

0:30:150:30:18

Christmas annuals and things. People all knew it.

0:30:180:30:21

And they would quote bits and pieces.

0:30:210:30:23

I mean, "Jings, crivens, help ma boab" became Scottish dialect,

0:30:230:30:27

Scottish language.

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Going back to when I was five or six,

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I mean, basically there was no TV, there was no nothing.

0:30:470:30:51

And so, I mean, the few comics that you had and the Sunday Post

0:30:510:30:57

and Oor Wullie and The Broons really was your fantasy world.

0:30:570:31:02

I was Oor Wullie.

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I might have been one of the twins in the Broons family as well

0:31:030:31:06

but I basically Oor Wullie.

0:31:060:31:08

I was the wee kind of leader of our wee gang. So I was Oor Wullie.

0:31:080:31:12

Actually, I've just remembered,

0:31:120:31:14

it had been completely out my head till this moment,

0:31:140:31:17

I once bought a white mouse cos Wullie had a wee mouse called Jeemy.

0:31:170:31:21

And I bought a wee white mouse so I could be like Oor Wullie.

0:31:210:31:24

And I tried sitting on a bucket!

0:31:240:31:25

Have you ever tried sitting on an upturned bucket?

0:31:250:31:28

It's the sorest thing in the world. I don't know how Wullie managed it.

0:31:280:31:31

I couldn't do it.

0:31:310:31:32

The Broons and Oor Wullie, there's nobody can beat them.

0:31:320:31:35

I think it was the way they spoke, the mischief,

0:31:350:31:38

especially Oor Wullie got up to with Fat Bob and Little Eck

0:31:380:31:42

and Soapy Sooter and there was a few things as well. I ended up

0:31:420:31:45

eating rice with jam in it and it was them that started me off.

0:31:450:31:49

I suppose the adults might have seen him as a cheeky young brat.

0:31:490:31:53

Whereas we sort of saw him as a hero who did all sorts of horrible things

0:31:530:31:58

to PC Murdoch and basically got away with it.

0:31:580:32:01

And we wished that we could do the same.

0:32:010:32:04

To be honest, one of the proudest things that's ever happened to me

0:32:210:32:24

was getting my OBE, which was amazing.

0:32:240:32:27

But actually, even better than that, that week,

0:32:270:32:30

the fact I got my OBE was actually featured in Oor Wullie.

0:32:300:32:34

I was in Oor Wullie.

0:32:340:32:36

I would love to appear in the Broons or Oor Wullie.

0:32:360:32:40

That would be absolutely wonderful. It would be a great honour

0:32:400:32:43

and I would frame it and put it above my mantelpiece.

0:32:430:32:46

When I came here, the Broons and Oor Wullie were printed on their sides

0:32:460:32:51

so they could be on one side.

0:32:510:32:53

So you just turned the paper sideways to read them.

0:32:530:32:56

I actually put them the right way up and I remember Sunday morning

0:32:560:33:00

the phone went and it's my mother-in-law

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who demanded to speak to me. She said, "Donald! What have you done?

0:33:030:33:07

"You've put the Broons the right way up. That's wrong!"

0:33:070:33:12

Oor Wullie even dominates the exterior of the Dundee building

0:33:120:33:16

where the Post is printed.

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I'm even happy to put Oor Wullie or any of the Broons on the front page.

0:33:190:33:23

We use them for promotions. They are a huge, huge asset.

0:33:230:33:26

I sometimes have the feeling that he's even sitting in my chair

0:33:260:33:29

at times or the office. I'll occasionally turn round and say,

0:33:290:33:33

"I've sure I've seen him." A lot of people have said that in the office.

0:33:330:33:36

It's like his spirit lives amongst us.

0:33:360:33:39

The Broons of 10 Glebe Street.

0:33:420:33:45

None of them are the brightest shilling in the box.

0:33:450:33:49

None of them are the nastiest characters out.

0:33:490:33:52

None of them are boring.

0:33:520:33:53

They're multi-faceted, real people with the language -

0:33:530:33:57

and this is a really important point - the language to boot.

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So, they're actually speaking the same way

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as all the farmers around here speak.

0:34:030:34:05

And that's an important thing cos in the rest of Scotland there's been

0:34:050:34:08

a tendency to sort of sanitise language,

0:34:080:34:11

so the characters don't quite sound like anybody real.

0:34:110:34:14

But to anybody who lives in small-town Scotland

0:34:140:34:17

or actually big-city Scotland,

0:34:170:34:19

the Broons sound like the kind of people you are.

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Or the family next door. And they've never compromised on that,

0:34:210:34:25

which is a great thing.

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There was always a misunderstanding. Not always, but one of the main

0:34:260:34:30

themes you get in the Broons was a misunderstanding.

0:34:300:34:33

Somebody would say something like,

0:34:330:34:35

"Oh, somebody's granny fell off the roof."

0:34:350:34:39

And they all rush out and what it is is one of these birly chimney things

0:34:390:34:42

called a granny that had fallen off the roof.

0:34:420:34:45

There was always this big misunderstanding and panic stations.

0:34:450:34:49

There's a kind of veracity about it,

0:34:490:34:52

even though it's covered in sort of sugary schmaltz in a way, isn't it?

0:34:520:34:56

But there's something underneath that that rings true

0:34:560:34:58

and I don't know why. I can't really put my finger on it

0:34:580:35:01

and I'm not sure that anyone can, really.

0:35:010:35:03

It's just very clever cartoon writing, isn't it?

0:35:030:35:06

Everybody knows Paw and maw Broons, Grandpa Broons, we've all had them.

0:35:060:35:10

The brothers, the Hen and Joes.

0:35:100:35:13

Although they're dysfunctional in a way they all come together,

0:35:130:35:17

they would back you up no end.

0:35:170:35:19

If you had a problem that family would be there.

0:35:190:35:23

If I had a favourite Broon it would have to be Maggie.

0:35:230:35:27

Cos I fancied her.

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I really, really fancied Maggie. I thought she was a stoater.

0:35:290:35:32

I felt sorry for Daphne. Poor Daphne.

0:35:320:35:35

She was always upstaged by Maggie.

0:35:350:35:37

And Maggie always had these boyfriends that would come back

0:35:370:35:40

that looked like used car salesmen.

0:35:400:35:43

They were always a bit flashy with wavy hair.

0:35:430:35:45

And poor Daphne got some wee guy with a bowler hat.

0:35:450:35:49

Coming from Glebe Street didn't stop the Broons

0:36:040:36:06

from visiting Hollywood.

0:36:060:36:08

The Broons came to Los Angeles.

0:36:090:36:12

How brilliant is that?

0:36:120:36:14

Talk about moving something on a little bit.

0:36:140:36:17

The Broons came to LA and the Broons met up with me

0:36:170:36:21

and I showed them round.

0:36:210:36:23

And then I took them to meet Gerard Butler

0:36:230:36:26

because they wanted an introduction to the stars.

0:36:260:36:29

So, Maggie and Daphne, and we were all there,

0:36:290:36:33

and the Hollywood stars,

0:36:330:36:35

the Walk of Fame and I took them there.

0:36:350:36:38

And they watched me broadcast. It's surreal.

0:36:380:36:42

Even as I'm talking about it today it's so surreal of that moment.

0:36:420:36:46

And I desperately, desperately remember that moment

0:36:460:36:50

when it came out.

0:36:500:36:51

And then the amount of phone calls, especially from school pals,

0:36:510:36:55

cos two of my best friends I was at school with

0:36:550:36:59

and I can't even use the language that they used

0:36:590:37:01

but basically it was confirming that I was very lucky.

0:37:010:37:05

HE LAUGHS

0:37:050:37:07

Retired farmer Bob Padget has been reading the Post

0:37:100:37:14

for most of his 90 years.

0:37:140:37:17

He's been a fan of the fun section since it first appeared in 1936.

0:37:170:37:22

My favourite is Oor Wullie. Good example for young boys

0:37:230:37:29

and I'd like to see a lot more young boys like them

0:37:290:37:33

who went outside to play.

0:37:330:37:37

That's where they should be, not inside.

0:37:370:37:40

One of the disadvantages of today is too many gadgets.

0:37:400:37:44

We allow ourselves to be distracted from what we can find outside

0:37:440:37:49

and what we can do ourselves.

0:37:490:37:51

Wullie and his friends, a good lot.

0:37:510:37:54

Anyway, I enjoyed it and I still enjoy it.

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As the 1930s drew to a close,

0:37:570:38:00

families were confronted with a new threat.

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NEVILLE CHAMBERLAIN: This morning the British Ambassador in Berlin

0:38:040:38:09

handed the German Government a final note stating that,

0:38:090:38:14

unless we heard from them by 11 o'clock,

0:38:140:38:19

that they were prepared at once to withdraw their troops from Poland,

0:38:190:38:24

a state of war would exist between us.

0:38:240:38:27

I have to tell you now

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that no such undertaking has been received,

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and that consequently this country

0:38:350:38:38

is at war with Germany.

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World War II deeply affected every family in Scotland -

0:38:470:38:51

even the fictitious ones.

0:38:510:38:53

October '39, war had not long been declared and Oor Wullie is seen here,

0:38:550:39:00

he's got a shy where he's got all the Nazi leaders -

0:39:000:39:07

Goring, Goebbels, Ribbentrop, Hitler

0:39:070:39:10

are all lined up for a shy.

0:39:100:39:13

Right away Oor Wullie is part of how we'd all be feeling

0:39:130:39:18

and I'm sure at the time that was much-loved, that one.

0:39:180:39:22

The wartime Sunday Post not only covered the big political

0:39:250:39:28

and military pictures but also the lives of their readers.

0:39:280:39:32

A military triumph of Stalin is here reported alongside

0:39:330:39:36

an Army wife's appeal or safe accommodation

0:39:360:39:39

for her and her four children during the Clydeside Blitz.

0:39:390:39:44

The Post commented:

0:39:440:39:45

Many of the letters appealing to the Post for help during the war

0:40:000:40:03

are still held in the DC Thomson archive.

0:40:030:40:08

We have so many letters that were written to us from people,

0:40:080:40:13

mainly women, who were saying to us "Look, I don't know where my son is,

0:40:130:40:18

"I haven't heard from my husband in a year, two years,

0:40:180:40:21

"I do not know what to do. Help us."

0:40:210:40:23

You don't know the official channels to go to, what are you going to do?

0:40:230:40:27

You contact the Sunday Post because they'll look after you,

0:40:270:40:30

because you trust them. What we have here is an article

0:40:300:40:33

and I'll just read a small part of it to you.

0:40:330:40:36

"Regarding your article by NO in the Sunday Post, I am writing now to see

0:40:360:40:40

"if you can give me the name of the soldier in the picture

0:40:400:40:43

"who has lost his memory.

0:40:430:40:45

"You see, he is the image of my son who was reported wounded in April

0:40:450:40:49

"in North Africa and who is now

0:40:490:40:51

"reported 'missing, known to be wounded' by the War Office.

0:40:510:40:55

"The War Office state they cannot trace him.

0:40:550:40:58

"Several friends have brought this picture to me to see if I'd notice

0:40:580:41:02

"the likeness, so I decided to write to you and enquire into the matter."

0:41:020:41:07

That's what they felt they were there for.

0:41:070:41:09

I get quite emotional about these, actually, sorry.

0:41:100:41:13

Although patriotic, the Post was a campaigning paper -

0:41:150:41:19

never slow to chastise the powers that be.

0:41:190:41:23

In May 1942, it identified highly flammable whisky bonds

0:41:230:41:27

in built-up areas as a major wartime hazard to civilians.

0:41:270:41:31

MAN: "Surely in this crisis it is simple common sense to take every

0:41:310:41:35

"possible precaution to minimise the danger to our people.

0:41:350:41:40

"Yet this is not being done.

0:41:400:41:42

"The worst menace remains - whisky stores in congested areas."

0:41:420:41:48

Month after month, the paper raged on at the Government.

0:41:480:41:51

Eventually, the editor of the Sunday Post was called down to London

0:41:510:41:55

to talk to ministers about it, and sure enough,

0:41:550:41:58

gradually, these bonded warehouses were moved to outlying areas

0:41:580:42:02

and quite a lot of whisky was actually moved to Canada

0:42:020:42:06

and one of the ships carrying it famously went down and became

0:42:060:42:09

the source for Compton Mackenzie's famous Whisky Galore.

0:42:090:42:14

So you can thank the Sunday Post for that.

0:42:140:42:17

In 1945, with Germany and Japan defeated,

0:42:180:42:21

servicemen returned home - including the conquering heroes,

0:42:210:42:26

Hen and Joe Broon.

0:42:260:42:28

This is the end of the war,

0:42:410:42:43

it's the Broons soldier laddies returning home.

0:42:430:42:47

There is a huge family get-together including Oor Wullie, Fat Bob,

0:42:470:42:51

they're all there to welcome home the boys.

0:42:510:42:54

They're just little capsules that are worth looking at in their own right.

0:42:540:42:59

Page three we're quite worried about. As you can see, it's blank.

0:43:050:43:09

And it's now ten to four, so we're about three hours or so away

0:43:090:43:14

but not going to get too stressed out right now.

0:43:140:43:18

Crisis stage at the moment - no, I'm only kidding.

0:43:210:43:24

We're doing OK.

0:43:240:43:26

Over the next few hours it's a case of

0:43:260:43:29

getting the live spread sorted out.

0:43:290:43:32

Pages six and seven is essentially all the sort of live breaking news

0:43:320:43:38

stories from today.

0:43:380:43:40

At the moment that's largely blank

0:43:400:43:42

because there's not a huge amount happened today.

0:43:420:43:45

The real danger with papers

0:43:460:43:49

is that everything gets left to the last minute

0:43:490:43:51

and so there's too much for too many people to do in too short a time,

0:43:510:43:55

so what we try to do now is make sure everything stays as smooth

0:43:550:43:58

as we can throughout the day.

0:43:580:43:59

We've got a serious news story then we go to something that's gentler,

0:43:590:44:04

a bit more upbeat, back into serious.

0:44:040:44:06

So that's what I was talking about, the light and shade.

0:44:060:44:09

And that's right throughout the papers cos you want them

0:44:090:44:12

to continue to flow the paper and get enjoyment.

0:44:120:44:14

That's how we also have Lorraine Kelly, which is great,

0:44:140:44:18

having one of the biggest names on TV -

0:44:180:44:20

who lives locally, just down in Broughty Ferry,

0:44:200:44:23

so she's a great supporter of the paper.

0:44:230:44:27

I get a lot of feedback from readers and I really welcome it.

0:44:270:44:31

Especially in my life when maybe I've gone through things,

0:44:310:44:34

like when I had a miscarriage, I got so many letters,

0:44:340:44:36

cos I wrote about it in the column,

0:44:360:44:38

and I got so many letters from women who'd been through the

0:44:380:44:41

same thing, or just people saying, "We're thinking of you."

0:44:410:44:44

It's like, "You're part of the family

0:44:440:44:47

"and we're thinking of you," and that's amazing.

0:44:470:44:50

We get dozens and dozens,

0:44:500:44:52

people writing in asking for things like an address of a supplier,

0:44:520:44:57

this one for Cameron tartan by the metre, or, "Do you know where I

0:44:570:45:03

"can get a knitting pattern for an Oor Wullie",

0:45:030:45:07

wanting to do it for charity.

0:45:070:45:10

Our readers will respond to that.

0:45:100:45:12

One after another we got replies coming back, from men,

0:45:140:45:20

from people down in England,

0:45:200:45:21

and we were so overcome with all of this we decided we had to do this.

0:45:210:45:27

So I set about doing them, and I got on really well with them

0:45:270:45:33

until I came to his head.

0:45:330:45:34

And I looked in the mirror and I looked at my head,

0:45:360:45:39

and I thought he must be the same as me!

0:45:390:45:42

So we sat about and we got lots of wool, cut it all up,

0:45:420:45:50

starting putting it in through a crochet hook in his head.

0:45:500:45:53

I fell in love with him after I seen him,

0:45:530:45:56

and I really didn't want to give him away.

0:45:560:45:59

I put him in the cupboard, in a plastic container,

0:45:590:46:04

and I went in one day and I nearly died off when I saw his face.

0:46:040:46:09

The expression on his face was like disgust.

0:46:090:46:13

And I thought, "Need to get him out."

0:46:150:46:17

And when I brought him out, I gave him a wee cuddle and put him

0:46:170:46:21

back on his perch, on his pail, and he came to life again.

0:46:210:46:26

Like the Broons, Scotland celebrated the end of World War II,

0:46:320:46:36

but the hard times continued.

0:46:360:46:38

Food rationing didn't end until the mid '50s,

0:46:380:46:42

but the 1960s were a very different matter.

0:46:420:46:45

GUITAR MUSIC AND GIRLS SCREAMING

0:46:510:46:54

Rare photographs of the Beatles in Dundee.

0:46:540:46:57

The prosperity and youth culture of the 1960s heralded a break

0:46:570:47:02

with restrictive taboos or a collapse of social order -

0:47:020:47:05

depending on your point of view.

0:47:050:47:07

In '63, the Post reported both the rise of the Beatles...

0:47:090:47:14

and the fall of the Conservative Secretary of State for War

0:47:140:47:17

in a sex scandal that involved alleged prostitutes

0:47:170:47:21

and a Soviet naval attache and led to the

0:47:210:47:24

resignation of the Prime Minister and the collapse of his government.

0:47:240:47:28

The Post reported that Beatle Ringo Starr came out of the '60s

0:47:290:47:33

rather better - so rich he couldn't count his cash.

0:47:330:47:37

Pop stars and their antics are still good copy for the Post.

0:47:410:47:45

In the newsroom, assistant editor Iain Harrison

0:47:450:47:49

tells the editor of a breaking story.

0:47:490:47:52

Scores of fans have allegedly been handing their tickets

0:47:530:47:56

back in disgust. Not quite sure what they expected from

0:47:560:47:59

a Miley Cyrus concert, to be honest.

0:47:590:48:00

It'll be the parents of teenagers that've obviously seen the coverage

0:48:000:48:04

of London and are saying, "I'm not sending my kid to that."

0:48:040:48:07

Because she's been exhibiting...

0:48:070:48:09

various parts of her body. You happy with that for page three then?

0:48:090:48:13

Yeah, because obviously our readership will think

0:48:130:48:16

-her behaviour's unacceptable.

-Yeah.

0:48:160:48:18

OK, Jeremy, if you can find some semi-naked photos of Miley Cyrus,

0:48:180:48:23

please, for page three...

0:48:230:48:25

Censored pictures, behave yourself.

0:48:250:48:28

Oh, saved!

0:48:310:48:33

As we say, three hours is a long time, newspapers, so that's great.

0:48:330:48:39

We'll run that on page three, cos visually it'll be good,

0:48:390:48:43

and it can run all editions as well.

0:48:430:48:45

Just putting an outline on this picture

0:48:470:48:50

so we can use it as a cut-out, so she can overlap with

0:48:500:48:53

the other pictures on the article on page three.

0:48:530:48:55

So I just use the pen to whizz round it, save the path,

0:48:580:49:00

change the colour.

0:49:000:49:03

Set up to CMYK, put it back on the system,

0:49:030:49:05

and then John will pull it into his page.

0:49:050:49:08

By 1935, the Sunday Post had a circulation of 350,000.

0:49:160:49:20

50 years later in 1985, it was 1.5 million

0:49:200:49:24

and it was in the Guinness Book of Records as the most-read

0:49:240:49:27

newspaper in the world in its circulation area.

0:49:270:49:32

So, if you take Scotland as its circulation area,

0:49:320:49:35

it was reckoned that six out of every ten adults

0:49:350:49:38

read the Sunday Post every week, and that made it, according to the

0:49:380:49:43

Guinness Book of Records, the most successful newspaper anywhere.

0:49:430:49:46

The man in charge at the time was Bill Anderson,

0:49:480:49:51

who'd become editor at just 34.

0:49:510:49:54

Previously he'd roamed the world for the Post having

0:49:540:49:57

"Holidays on Nothing" - the HON Man.

0:49:570:50:00

His widow, Maggie Anderson, looks back at Bill's career.

0:50:000:50:04

This is Bill being a street salesman,

0:50:060:50:08

almost like a gypsy traveller. Spot the false beard.

0:50:080:50:12

I think it's quite easy to spot!

0:50:120:50:15

Em, now, this was, I don't know if you remember

0:50:150:50:18

Emergency-Ward 10 on television,

0:50:180:50:20

Bill was an extra in Emergency-Ward 10.

0:50:200:50:22

This was him in the Libyan desert, and there's a

0:50:220:50:25

wonderful picture here in which he looks like something out of a film.

0:50:250:50:28

I don't know if you can see that. That's Bill.

0:50:280:50:31

One of my friends loves that picture so much

0:50:310:50:34

she kisses it every time she comes into the house.

0:50:340:50:37

And this is a typical Sunday Post story,

0:50:370:50:39

because the man who sells pounds for pennies

0:50:390:50:42

is a good Sunday Post heading,

0:50:420:50:43

and he went out to try and give away pounds.

0:50:430:50:45

So he'd go to someone and say,

0:50:450:50:47

"Have you got a penny? I'll give you a pound"

0:50:470:50:49

And of course everybody is very

0:50:490:50:50

suspicious about it, so the copy was quite funny.

0:50:500:50:53

You used to meet Bill in the corridor,

0:50:530:50:55

and he'd be walking along with a sheaf of papers in one hand

0:50:550:50:58

and a cigarette or a wee cigar - you know, he was a chain smoker -

0:50:580:51:02

hanging out of his mouth, and he wouldn't acknowledge you.

0:51:020:51:05

He was so focused on what he was doing.

0:51:050:51:08

And even after we were together, even after we were married,

0:51:080:51:11

he would pass me in the corridor and just not acknowledge me,

0:51:110:51:14

and of course by then I knew it was nothing personal!

0:51:140:51:16

But to some of the younger ones, the trainees and everything,

0:51:160:51:19

he was this scary man who was just hell-bent on the task in hand.

0:51:190:51:23

Years later, when he'd become managing editor

0:51:230:51:26

of DC Thomson newspapers, he was interviewed by Jimmy Reid.

0:51:260:51:30

We're conservative with a small C - in Scottish terms.

0:51:300:51:35

That's part of what the Sunday Post is all about.

0:51:350:51:38

But you're not disputing that, editorially -

0:51:380:51:41

shall I put it this way?

0:51:410:51:42

- that your politics have consistently been right of centre?

0:51:420:51:45

Consistently our politics have been independently Scottish

0:51:450:51:49

right of centre, and I think that even you, Jimmy Reid,

0:51:490:51:53

would admit that in Scotland

0:51:530:51:55

and in the mass of Scotland there is a conservativism of that nature.

0:51:550:52:00

However they express it politically at the ballot box, and they're

0:52:000:52:03

just as likely to express it in nationalism as socialism.

0:52:030:52:08

Or whatever "ism" allows them to reflect their character politically.

0:52:080:52:12

He's absolutely spot-on. I don't think much has changed.

0:52:120:52:16

We are conservative with a small C.

0:52:160:52:19

We're about the traditional values, hard working,

0:52:190:52:23

about the community, about family and friends.

0:52:230:52:26

So it's all... Hate injustice, hate people being treated unfairly.

0:52:260:52:31

So it's all those good, old-fashioned values,

0:52:310:52:34

they're still relevant today, and we try and appeal to them when we're

0:52:340:52:38

running campaigns and highlighting particular news stories.

0:52:380:52:42

Radical feminist Lesley Riddoch is a regular columnist

0:52:420:52:46

for the small C conservative Sunday Post.

0:52:460:52:49

If you want to be writing for a particular elite who

0:52:490:52:53

are super-served with lefty ideas, you can choose any number of papers.

0:52:530:52:58

But the Sunday Post is a great one,

0:52:580:53:01

because it actually allows you a lot of leeway in certain directions,

0:53:010:53:05

because there is a sort of presumption that "they" are at it.

0:53:050:53:08

That the landed and the aristocratic establishment classes

0:53:080:53:14

and the fat cat politicians, all those guys are presumed guilty

0:53:140:53:18

till proven innocent, and there is a sort of more

0:53:180:53:21

robust kind of running at those subjects with the foot swinging

0:53:210:53:25

attitude in the Sunday Post than there is in a lot of other papers.

0:53:250:53:29

One of the most popular features in Scotland's most popular paper

0:53:360:53:40

was "The Doc."

0:53:400:53:42

It wasn't just the general public that read it.

0:53:420:53:44

Generations of family doctors missed it at their peril.

0:53:440:53:48

And almost inevitably on a Monday morning you would have

0:53:480:53:54

one, two, three, sometimes more patients arriving with exactly

0:53:540:53:59

the complaint that had been in the Sunday Post the day before.

0:53:590:54:02

So, it was fairly important for GPs to read the Sunday Post prior

0:54:020:54:07

to Monday morning surgery.

0:54:070:54:10

I would always read the Doc's column,

0:54:100:54:12

cos people were always having "ops".

0:54:120:54:14

I didn't know what an op was.

0:54:140:54:16

"Why are they having an op?" And their waterworks, it was always

0:54:160:54:20

the wife having trouble with her waterworks and a wee op would help!

0:54:200:54:24

"What's a wee op?"

0:54:240:54:25

Like a wee funny creature would come and sort out her waterworks.

0:54:250:54:29

With a spanner, I don't know.

0:54:290:54:30

"My father (over 70) suffers badly from piles.

0:54:300:54:34

"He refuses to have an op.

0:54:340:54:37

"Isn't it bad for an elderly person to lose blood every day?"

0:54:370:54:40

There were patients who would come in every single week virtually

0:54:420:54:45

with whatever the Doc had been talking about,

0:54:450:54:48

and that was the illness of the week if you like,

0:54:480:54:50

but these patients were generally well known to their GPs

0:54:500:54:54

and I think in general it was much more of a positive experience for

0:54:540:54:58

the health of the nation, and I would put it as strongly as that I think.

0:54:580:55:02

But the Doc column - like every aspect of every newspaper -

0:55:040:55:07

has faced increasing competition from television and the internet.

0:55:070:55:11

Thank you very much. Enjoy your day, thank you.

0:55:150:55:19

The issue facing Donald Martin at the Sunday Post is how you

0:55:270:55:30

make the Sunday Post relevant again,

0:55:300:55:33

how you appeal to a younger readership and how you compete with

0:55:330:55:38

the internet as a source of news and editorial and feature content.

0:55:380:55:43

The Sunday Post has seen its circulation decline

0:55:440:55:48

because its readership has died off, so it has to appeal to

0:55:480:55:52

a younger set of potential readers.

0:55:520:55:55

It has to become relevant

0:55:560:55:59

by covering the real world, if you like.

0:55:590:56:03

In the newsroom, they are minutes from going to press

0:56:060:56:09

with the first edition.

0:56:090:56:11

They say that while doctors bury their mistakes,

0:56:110:56:14

journalists print them.

0:56:140:56:16

The Post journalists tweak and check right up to the very last second.

0:56:160:56:20

With a click of the mouse, Andy Clark, the assistant editor

0:56:220:56:25

in charge of production,

0:56:250:56:27

releases the journalists' work to the printers.

0:56:270:56:30

That's it, sent.

0:56:320:56:34

-Away to presses.

-Well done, everyone.

0:56:340:56:37

Fleet Street - once a byword for British journalism.

0:56:400:56:44

Today, DC Thomson is the only newspaper group

0:56:440:56:47

still active on the street,

0:56:470:56:49

and they've just spent millions refurbishing their offices here.

0:56:490:56:53

It's brilliant. I love...

0:56:550:56:57

having a Fleet Street address, and our officers are magnificent.

0:56:570:57:01

The outside of the building, the ornate brickwork,

0:57:010:57:06

the names of our titles up there.

0:57:060:57:08

It's a tourist attraction in its own right.

0:57:080:57:11

It's well worth taking a trip down Fleet Street

0:57:110:57:13

and just looking up. It's a wonderful place.

0:57:130:57:16

I think the new investment in offices and printing plant

0:57:160:57:20

is a declaration of intent by DC Thomson.

0:57:200:57:22

They have the great luxury of being a family-owned company

0:57:220:57:26

and a company that have a great deal of faith in their products,

0:57:260:57:29

including their newspapers.

0:57:290:57:31

I think they're confident that they can still make money from

0:57:390:57:42

newspapers and that the death of the newspaper, which has been predicted

0:57:420:57:46

for 50 years, is going to take longer than some people might think.

0:57:460:57:50

Sitting on the settee with your feet up

0:57:510:57:54

and a cup of coffee beside you with the paper open is relaxing.

0:57:540:57:57

Sitting in front of a computer with a cup of coffee is too much effort,

0:57:570:58:00

you've got to have a nice, relaxing Sunday.

0:58:000:58:02

In the future, perhaps it will all be online.

0:58:040:58:08

I'd rather it wasn't.

0:58:080:58:10

I'm a newspaper man, a print man through and through.

0:58:100:58:13

I'd like to think that there is still a place for newspapers,

0:58:130:58:16

even in the next 100 years we'll still pick up a Sunday Post.

0:58:160:58:19

There's nothing beats that feel of a newspaper in your hand.

0:58:190:58:23

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