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It's late Saturday night in Dundee, | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
and the Sunday Post is rolling off the press. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
At full tilt, these machines can print 90,000 copies an hour. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:17 | |
It's a complex, high-tech process, | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
but this stronghold of popular journalism, | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
Oor Wullie and The Broons, is now a century old. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
The Post has sometimes been dismissed as cosy and couthy | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
but it's a record-breaking newspaper that, for generations, | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
has been an essential part of the Scottish Sunday. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
It was always there when I was growing up. I don't remember | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
the first time I ever saw it. It just was part of the family. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
It's a sparky paper as well. It's got a lot of energy, erm... | 0:00:51 | 0:00:56 | |
and it can be quite cheeky as well and I like that. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
I love the Sunday Post, it's great. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
It goes back to my childhood because it's what we all grew up with | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
and every single Sunday it was so special. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
It was giving people reading the material that they wanted. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
It wasn't just giving them short change in any form at all. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
They got a decent read every Sunday | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
and, of course, they had Oor Wullie and The Broons as well. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
What a package! | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
Wednesday morning. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
The Sunday Post's senior staff gather in its Glasgow newsroom. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
They begin by dissecting last Sunday's paper. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
A really good paper, I thought, this week. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
Well done to those on the late team | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
on the teenager in the party drug tragedy, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
if it turns out it was a party drug which we need to follow through on. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:57 | |
That was excellent in getting that in for central and the Dundee editions. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
MUFFLED CONVERSATION | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
Now they have to produce next Sunday's paper. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
This week, who's got the biggest story, who's going to hit me first? | 0:02:07 | 0:02:12 | |
Premium content only. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
Donald Martin is only the sixth editor | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
of the Sunday Post in a century. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
He's the first not to be DC Thomson trained and he's very aware | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
that he's editing a paper that is an icon to its lifelong readers. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:29 | |
I lost my dad when he was only...when I was only 12, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
and I think it made my sister and my mum and I even closer | 0:02:33 | 0:02:38 | |
and I think that the Sunday Post just sort of epitomises that really, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:44 | |
you know, just the family and being together and sharing things, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:49 | |
and it's...it was special. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
There's no smut, there's no... You know, it's safe, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
I call it a safe paper, you know, if you've got youngsters about. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
So, but, yeah, no, it's always been the paper of choice, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
even the far back as, er, as a child. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
We're anchored in our community and our readership | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
and their values. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:08 | |
But the Sunday Post was a child of conflict, born out | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
of the horrors that was World War I, in a city that suffered badly. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:20 | |
In Dundee, they commemorate their war dead. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
Scottish servicemen began to die within weeks | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
of Britain's declaration of war against Germany in August, 1914. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:39 | |
From then on, the casualties mounted - | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
thousand upon thousand upon thousand. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
Many of the Dundonians killed, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
served in their local regiment - The Black Watch. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
LAST POST PLAYS | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
There wasn't a family in the whole of Dundee that didn't | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
suffer a loss at that time. You can still feel | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
the loss of what is 100 years ago now. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
The city, like every other community in Scotland, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
was transfixed by the war - hungry for news from the front | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
and the casualty lists released by the War Office. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
In Dundee, reporting the war fell to the city's own newspaper group - | 0:04:20 | 0:04:25 | |
DC Thomson - the company that put that third J | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
in the city's reputation for "jute, jam and journalism." | 0:04:28 | 0:04:33 | |
DC Thomson still means journalism. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
It's Friday afternoon in Dundee. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
Editor Donald Martin is talking to his News Editor in Glasgow. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
Donald and his team have got just 36 hours to pull | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
together 96 pages of news, sport, comment, features, gossip, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:57 | |
cartoons, puzzles and pictures that will make up the next issue | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
of the Sunday Post. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
A quick review of where we're at. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
Nose-clipper one again, not worth a page lead again. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
I'm bored with it, so can we move that one further back? | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
'We don't really know what the splash is.' | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
We've got maybe four or five really, really strong contenders | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
and that's normal for this stage in the week. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
Most of our stories, in fact, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
I would say about 20 or 30 stories are all exclusive, so we can play | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
around with it and it's about what's the right balance on the front page. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
'How strong - do we want to do a human interest one or a news one? | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
'And we'll fight about that later on in the day, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
'but won't decide till maybe about four o'clock tomorrow.' | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
Stag one's good. Have we got that to ourselves? | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
-Yeah, definitely. -Absolutely? She's not... -Definitely. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
Front page mentions - stag woman good enough? | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
-I think so. -Yeah. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
'If something happens, then we deal with it, | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
'the adrenaline gets you through. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
'We've normally got several options for the front | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
'and I can see me right up to half an hour before deadline | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
'changing what we decide to do.' | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
Talk to you again in a couple of hours | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
and see where we get to, all right? Right, thanks a lot. Cheers. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
-Right, are you happy moving those around? -Yeah, OK. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
So we've changed those around | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
and at the moment I think it's looking all right. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
A century ago, in 1914, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
journalism in Dundee was already an adrenaline-fuelled industry. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:31 | |
Dundee was a city crowded with news-hungry workers. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
Since 1901, the school leaving age in Scotland had been 14, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:42 | |
so this was a literate society. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
With no radio or TV, | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
the popular press was the undisputed mass media of the day. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
The city's home-grown publishing company was DC Thomson. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
The Thomsons had been a Fife family who, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
from the mid-19th century, had built a successful shipping line. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
The Thomsons started off in Fife, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
around about the Pittenweem, Anstruther area. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
The earliest Thomson that has a connection to the business | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
was a Captain William Thomson, but, unfortunately, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
he went down with his ship, the Christian, in 1828. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
Now his son, who was also William, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
he wanted to go to sea, but his mother just wouldn't allow him | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
so he was apprenticed as a draper, first of all, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
and then travelled to Dundee | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
to take up a position in the drapery business in the city here | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
and then, despite what his mother had warned him about, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
he bought a share in a ship and eventually that grew | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
into the Thomson line of steamers which traded all over the world. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
Thomson's diversification into newspapers began in 1866. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:52 | |
William Thomson was approached | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
to take a small share in the Courier & Argus as it was then. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
He took a share in that and then eventually | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
he took ownership outright. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
And all of a sudden, he was into publishing | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
and had ownership of, at than time, a by-weekly paper. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:11 | |
In 1884, William put one of his sons, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
23-year-old David Coupar Thomson, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
in charge of the family's growing publishing interests. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
Now, DC Thomson is an interesting character. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
He was quite young, about 23, when he took over | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
and he was into absolutely everything | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
to get this newspaper up and running, the Courier, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
and also the Weekly News which they owned as well by then. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
Dundee was a vibrant industrial city. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
The jute industry was thriving. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
The Camperdown Works alone employed nearly 5,000 people, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
5,000 potential readers. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
Dundee was a place where an ambitious young newspaperman | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
could build a business. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
And he did that by virtually doing everything. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
He wrote to people asking for stories, he would send | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
self-addressed envelopes out to people and say, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
"Look, if anything happens in your area, pop it in the post to us | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
"and I'll pass it on to the editor." | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
But he also did things like buy new machinery. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
He was very innovative. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:19 | |
In 1905, DC Thomson & Company, | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
was set up as a separate business to publish newspapers. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
Shortly after, the ships were sold. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
From now on in Dundee, Thomson meant journalism. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
There was various things happening in Victorian times | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
which helped DC Thomson's expansion. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
I mean, there's the great rise in literacy rates. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
In the old days, you might get one Courier going into a mill | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
to be read by the only literate person to all the mill people there, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
but by, I suppose, the 1860s, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
John Menzie opened up his first station bookshop. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
The first paper he handled was The People's Journal, in fact. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
If you look at the very first newspapers in Scotland | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
they are all priced seven pence, eight pence or nine pence, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
but with the abolition of the taxes | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
on paper and on ink and on advertising | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
in the 1850 to 1860s - as soon as that happened | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
newspapers like the Dundee Courier, the Weekly News and things like that | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
were able to sell for a penny or a half pence | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
and with the expanded readership, you can see where | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
the increase in circulation started to come. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
In 1911, Thomson commissioned this documentary | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
about his flagship newspaper, the Courier. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
To review it, here's Maurice Smith - film-maker, | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
business journalist and the author of a History Of The Scottish Press. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
I think this film shows DC Thomson as a very self-confident company, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:50 | |
based in a city that was probably approaching its peak itself. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:55 | |
It was a strong, industrial | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
and commercial city, trading internationally from the Tay | 0:10:57 | 0:11:02 | |
and DC Thomson reflected that kind of self-confidence, I think. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
Although they were always a regional publisher, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
they were a very, erm, a very wealthy publisher from an early stage | 0:11:10 | 0:11:16 | |
and as a family business, probably a company that was used to | 0:11:16 | 0:11:21 | |
making what we'd now call strategic investments and taking risks - | 0:11:21 | 0:11:26 | |
very entrepreneurial company. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
And then the Great War came. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
# Keep the home fires burning | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
# While your hearts are yearning... # | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
As thousands of Scots left for the front, Dundee's appetite for news | 0:11:44 | 0:11:49 | |
from the trenches was insatiable - seven days a week. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
But DC Thomson didn't have a Sunday newspaper, so quickly gave | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
its existing newspaper, the Saturday Post, a special Sunday edition. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:01 | |
People wanted to know what was going on | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
and the only reliable source of news was newspapers, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:10 | |
and technology was allowing the newspapers | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
to get dispatches from the front much more quickly. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
The Saturday Post Sunday Special, intended to last for the duration | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
of the war, became one of the most successful newspapers | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
in international journalism, and a Scottish icon - the Sunday Post. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:31 | |
The new paper had a close bond with | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
local troops, especially the territorial part-time soldiers | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
of the 4th Battalion Black Watch. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
The 4th Black Watch, "Dundee's Own", was very special. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
It enjoyed a special bond, a special link, with the city. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
While only a small percentage of men who joined the colours from Dundee | 0:12:47 | 0:12:52 | |
joined the 4th Black Watch, it was Dundee's own battalion. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
It was sourced almost entirely from the three Js, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
the classic jute, jam and journalism. We took... | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
The 4th came from the mills - the Craigie Mills, the Ashton Mill, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
the Manhattan Mill - things like that. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
The Courier sent over 300 men to the war eventually, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
so more than any other publishing house outside London. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
So there was that locality of it - it was brothers and sons and nephews. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
Everyone knew each other. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
For the most part, people in Dundee, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
at least for the first two years of the war, experienced | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
events of the Western Front through the lens of the 4th Black Watch. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
There was a close, close link between the two. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
The Post was there when the 4th Battalion first boarded trains | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
in Dundee on their way to the front in France. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
They leave with a strength of around 900 men. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
The battalion was described as a well set up gritty battalion, | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
ready to rough it with the best of them, and the city of Dundee | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
turns out in huge numbers to see them on their way. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
Within weeks, news came through that | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
Dundee's Own had received a bloody baptism of fire at Neuve Chapelle. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:59 | |
With many of their staff in the Army, DC Thomson was ideally | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
placed to report the battle. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
The various journalists, editors, who served with the 4th Black Watch | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
who became known as the fighter writers | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
certainly strengthened the link between the 4th Battalion | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
and DC Thomson - the papers back home. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
They were all sending home letters, sketches, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
reports from the battlefield. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
What we actually have here is a copy of the Post Sunday Special | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
from Sunday March 14th, 1915, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
and basically it's a report on, as you can see there, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
the glorious victory of Neuve Chapelle, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
very much about being the latest war news so what you're actually getting | 0:14:34 | 0:14:39 | |
here is eye-witness accounts of what actually happened. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
Fred Tait was one of the Post's fighter-writers. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
Among the fronts he served on was the bloodbath of Gallipoli. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
Many years after Fred's death, his daughter, Margaret Anton, | 0:14:51 | 0:14:57 | |
discovered his diaries. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
He went into the recruiting office | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
and he said he went in at the wrong door | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
and found he had joined the RAMC, so he ended up as a stretcher | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
bearer and was sent out to Gallipoli and was there for several years, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:16 | |
which sounded absolutely horrible. He wrote diaries when he was there, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:21 | |
wrote back to the paper, to the Saturday Post, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
"From Our Man In Gallipoli." Didn't give a name. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
It was more or less what he had in the diaries. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
"I was carrying a patient who had been badly | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
"hit by shrapnel in the head back to the dressing-station | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
"and on our way down, along a narrow trench we passed | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
"a half-battalion of men on their way up to reinforce the firing line. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
"As there was not room to pass, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
"we laid the stretcher down till the road was clear. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
"In single file the men marched past, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
"and about the middle of the line one slim, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
"young fellow happened to glance down at the wounded man on the stretcher. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
"Instantly his expression changed. 'My brother,' he exclaimed." | 0:16:01 | 0:16:06 | |
What we actually have here is an article | 0:16:08 | 0:16:13 | |
from the Post Sunday Special from July 15th 1917 and what makes this | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
article so special is it's actually an article by DC Thomson himself. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
He wasn't content to get reports back from the front line. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:26 | |
He actually had to go there and see it himself so he actually | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
took his chauffeur across there and they toured some of the battle sites | 0:16:29 | 0:16:34 | |
and then he sent back three reports which were published one after | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
the other in the Sunday Post or the Post Sunday Special as it was then. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:43 | |
"We visit a part of the front and leaving the cars | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
"and putting on our helmets, go along reserve trenches well-manned | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
"with strong, cheery young fellows, one of whom, on being | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
"told we are civilian visitors, tells us with a smile, 'You're lucky.'" | 0:16:54 | 0:16:59 | |
On 25 September 1914, "Dundee's Own" went over the top again, at Loos. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:07 | |
The Battle of Loos has often been described as "Scotland's Somme" | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
and I think it deserved the title of a Scottish battle. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
Some 30,000 Scots go over the top that day, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
including 36 Scottish battalions representing just about every | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
Scottish regiment in France at that time. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
Now, the Dundee 4th Battalion at that time was down to 420 men, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:31 | |
from the 900 that set off from Dundee with bands playing, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
the crowds cheering. There was almost a party going on in Dundee | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
when they left. So within six months they were down to 400 men. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:44 | |
ROARING | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
'They go over the top at six o'clock. Within minutes they capture the German front line trenches. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:52 | |
'They capture the reserve trenches, at no small cost, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
'and push on to the more heavily fortified positions beyond.' | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
The problem is the battalions on either flank have not been able to take their objectives | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
and consequently the 4th are left with their flanks open and, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
as the day wears on, they come under increasingly intense shell fire, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
German counter attacks, and eventually are forced to fall back. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
And at the end of that day | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
a battalion that started with 20 officers and 420 men, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
of that number 19 officers and 230 men have been killed or wounded. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:22 | |
Something like 150 wounded. 159 killed was the estimate. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:27 | |
It had a massive effect on Dundee. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
It had a massive effect on Scotland, but Dundee in particular. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
What you actually see here is an article which is about incidents | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
at the front line which happened to local people, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
so for instance you see here, "A Sergeant's Tribute to his Captain", | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
and I'll just read a little bit of this out. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
The Sergeant writes, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
"A Company being the first to go over had to stand the brunt. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
"I know that you will be doubly grieved to hear that | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
"Captain Cunningham was among the missing. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
"I cannot get any accurate account about his death. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
"He was last seen on the German front line cheering his men on. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
"What happened there to him no one can tell. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
"The night before as he was leaving to go up, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
"he came and shook hands with me and wished me good luck. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
"As he led his party down the village road I watched him. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
"His steady step, his erect head, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
"gave the men all the encouragement they required. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
"The men knew he was a soldier and would follow him anywhere. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
"Our boys had lost an officer whose name will always be remembered and revered. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:26 | |
"Captain Shepherd is also missing. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
"You will also know that Davie Hutton, W King | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
"and Donald Gow are gone. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
"I buried Donald Gow in a nice little cemetery and all our fellows | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
"are in one corner." | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
So what you're actually getting there is the eye witness | 0:19:39 | 0:19:44 | |
of the deaths of these men, these local men who would probably | 0:19:44 | 0:19:49 | |
have been known to people who worked for DC Thomson and then that's why | 0:19:49 | 0:19:54 | |
you find articles so closely related to the community in these pages. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:59 | |
The 4th Black Watch has left a lasting legacy | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
on the city of Dundee. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
There were very few families untouched by the war, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
particularly after Loos. So many men died. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
Chances are whether you had a member or your family serving, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
you would know someone who served in the 4th Black Watch. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
And it still has resonance today, the loss, the sacrifice. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
And it's marked by the memorial behind us, unveiled in 1925, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
the Law Memorial. The beacon on the Law is lit on very few occasions | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
across the year, but one of them being 25th September | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
to mark the sacrifice, the losses of the 4th Black Watch. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
So, the Sunday Post reported the war. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
It did so right through the whole conflict | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
and when the war ended it had been so successful that management | 0:20:42 | 0:20:47 | |
took the decision to keep it and to rename it the Sunday Post in 1919. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
Actually, on quite an unforgettable date because it was launched | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
as the Sunday Post on the 19th January 1919, so 19-1-19. | 0:20:54 | 0:21:00 | |
The Sunday Post was no longer a supplement, but a newspaper | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
in its own right, with its own quirks, character and loyal readers. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
It was the voice of douce Presbyterian, serious, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:21 | |
conservative with a small C Scottish attitudes. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:26 | |
It didn't take risks, it certainly wasn't racy by any description. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
It was a newspaper product that knew its audience very well. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:37 | |
Its formula of providing a packed, good value, easily read, family paper has worked for a century. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:44 | |
There was no reading the paper till Sunday lunch. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
I remember that very vividly. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
And then after Sunday lunch, it was like all bets are null | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
and void and now we get the paper out, | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
but yeah, there was very much that divvying up of the paper. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
It was like some favourite relative had come to visit you, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
you favourite uncle or something. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
Because you pulled out the Fun section which was cleverly | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
placed in the middle of the paper so you didn't have to disrupt the rest of the paper. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
Just take out the Fun section and there it was | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
and the rest of the family could get on with reading the important stuff. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
My mum's eyesight wasn't very good | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
and as she got older it was harder for her to read the paper, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
so we used to sit and I used to read all the sort of snippets | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
that I knew she would like, and we always did the quiz. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
It's almost like one-to-one. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
You're having this conversation with the newspaper. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
The centre pages with these quirky things like | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
"The dangers lurking in your tea towel" and things like that | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
that really made you think, "What?" | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
I grew up in Belfast which you would think wouldn't mean much | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
of the Sunday Post experience, but actually it was quite the opposite. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
My parents came from Banffshire and my mum was from Wick | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
and they were both firm Sunday Post readers | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
so we had it delivered somehow, I don't know how, every weekend | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
and it was read copiously for the rest of the week. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
Saturday evening in the Sunday Post newsroom, and the pressure is on. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
A wee bit further behind than I would like, I have to say. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
22, 23, who's on that? | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
Because that should be about ready. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
Chae, were you doing that? | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
The stag woman story, is it finished? | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
We'll try not to panic at this time. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
The front page at the moment, the guy who had been wrongly told | 0:23:30 | 0:23:35 | |
he had terminal lung cancer. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
So for three years he had been misdiagnosed, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
which was obviously quite horrific, and it wasn't just one doctor. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:45 | |
That's probably the strongest human interest story. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
But there is concern over Donald's potential front page lead story. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:54 | |
I've been speaking to him throughout the week | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
and he's had bereavement of a close relative | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
and whilst his close relative died this week, the burial, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
the funeral is going to take place on Monday | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
and I'm just a bit concerned that if we run this on a splash | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
on the front on Sunday and it gets picked up | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
by the papers for Sunday, for Monday, then he's going to be quite upset | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
if he sees him self in the papers | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
on a Monday when he's going to a funeral. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
Are we going to be able to hold that for a week till a better time? | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
I'm not convinced. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:29 | |
It's such a good story that I have a feeling it'll be out | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
there by next week if we hold it. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
It's not our style. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:36 | |
We get a backlash. I know it's a great story. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
It's getting a wee bit tight but hopefully we'll make a decision | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
in about half an hour. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
We've got a reputation for treating our readers right and we won't do | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
anything that will upset them. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:50 | |
The great thing is our reporters will be able to knock on the door | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
and say, "We're from the Sunday Post." People will talk to us. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
They'll talk to us because they know we'll treat them right. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
And this is a case where we might not be treating them well, | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
just because of the timing. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
So we'll find out and if the timing is not good for them | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
we've got to hold it even though we lost a great story. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
It might appear somewhere else, | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
but at the end of the day that's just one story. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
We've got 100 years of tradition and reputation to maintain. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
Assistant Editor Iain Harrison is talking to the reporter who | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
is covering the cancer story. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
Janet's spoken to the family, told them to the extent | 0:25:26 | 0:25:32 | |
that the piece is being used. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:33 | |
They are aware that it's going in this weekend, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
and that she's been speaking to them fairly regularly on and off | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
all week, so she reckons that we should run with it | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
and there won't be any issues. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
-Everybody happy then? Are we all agreed on a splash? -Yes. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
The day after this front page of 1926 was published, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
more than a million and a half British workers downed tools | 0:25:56 | 0:26:00 | |
in support of miners who faced a pay cut. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
Among the strikers were the union members responsible | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
for producing DC Thomson papers. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
Management managed to keep the presses rolling, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
and the General Strike collapsed after just ten days, | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
but David Coupar Thomson never forgave the unions. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
Strikers returning to work for his company had to renounce union membership. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:24 | |
DC Thomson took a decision not to recognise trade unions after | 0:26:28 | 0:26:33 | |
the General Strike and stuck to that for generations and became, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:39 | |
you know, when I came into the newspaper industry | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
in the late 1970s and early '80s, DC Thomson was known to | 0:26:43 | 0:26:48 | |
be a non-trade union company and that was very rare at that time. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:54 | |
I know that people, socialists, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
would not allow the Post to come into the house. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
But, generally speaking, it was one of the most widely read | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
newspapers and on a Monday morning at school you had to talk about what | 0:27:03 | 0:27:08 | |
Oor Wullie was getting up to at the weekend or The Broons and whatnot. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
So your weekend wasn't your weekend without the Sunday Post. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:17 | |
The 1930s, "The Hungry '30s," were hard times. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:27 | |
In 1932 unemployment in Scotland was nearly 28%. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
The following year, groups of workless, hungry men | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
marched to London in protest. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
'Dundee is an industrial city dominated by this | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
'monolith of an industry, jute, but when all the markets | 0:27:42 | 0:27:47 | |
'disappeared around 1929, 1930, 1931, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
'thousands were thrown out of work in the industry. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
'Something like 30,000 people were out of a job in one industry alone.' | 0:27:53 | 0:27:58 | |
Times were hard, but readers of the Sunday Post were promised | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
a bit of fun for the one penny cover price. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
In what was to become one of the most successful ventures | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
in British publishing history, the Post launched a Fun section, | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
full of comic characters that were destined to become Scottish icons. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:22 | |
In March 1936 an eight page Fun section was included for the | 0:28:22 | 0:28:27 | |
first time and that Fun section included Oor Wullie and The Broons. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:32 | |
So Oor Wullie and The Broons were in the very first one | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
and they've been in the Sunday Post Fun section ever since, | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
I'm pleased to say. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
This is the original, the Sunday Post Fun section number one, | 0:28:40 | 0:28:45 | |
that was a four-page insert into the Sunday Post newspaper. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:50 | |
What it was, was you pulled it out | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
and the instructions at the top were, | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
"Give this to the young folks". | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
So you handed it to your kids who would cleverly fold it | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
and cut it and you had an eight-page little comic. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:05 | |
This is a 1939 Oor Wullie and it shows Oor Wullie's family, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
but there is another member because Oor Wullie had a little brother. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
He was first seen in '37 and he lasted into '39 | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
and disappeared one day. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
Whether he was in the back cupboard, or whether he was in Barlinnie, | 0:29:18 | 0:29:22 | |
I don't know, but he disappeared. He was just never to be seen. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
And there's maybe a story sometime down the line of what happened | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
to Oor Wullie's brother. I'm not sure. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
Oor Wullie and The Broons were created by artist Dudley D Watkins. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:41 | |
I don't think it's wrong to say that he was a genius in his field, | 0:29:41 | 0:29:46 | |
Dudley D Watkins. I think his stuff the test, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
stands against any other comic artist in the world, all the greats. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
The fact that most of the stuff he wrote was in Scots - | 0:29:54 | 0:29:58 | |
apart from The Dandy or The Beano - that he's been, you know, | 0:29:58 | 0:30:03 | |
not that many people know about him in a worldwide scale | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
but he should be. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:07 | |
I think he's one of the most outstanding comic artists ever. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
Every Scot was aware of the Oor Wullie book | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
through the Sunday Post, through his Christmas books, | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
Christmas annuals and things. People all knew it. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
And they would quote bits and pieces. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
I mean, "Jings, crivens, help ma boab" became Scottish dialect, | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
Scottish language. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
Going back to when I was five or six, | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
I mean, basically there was no TV, there was no nothing. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
And so, I mean, the few comics that you had and the Sunday Post | 0:30:51 | 0:30:57 | |
and Oor Wullie and The Broons really was your fantasy world. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:02 | |
I was Oor Wullie. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:03 | |
I might have been one of the twins in the Broons family as well | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
but I basically Oor Wullie. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
I was the wee kind of leader of our wee gang. So I was Oor Wullie. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
Actually, I've just remembered, | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
it had been completely out my head till this moment, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
I once bought a white mouse cos Wullie had a wee mouse called Jeemy. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:21 | |
And I bought a wee white mouse so I could be like Oor Wullie. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
And I tried sitting on a bucket! | 0:31:24 | 0:31:25 | |
Have you ever tried sitting on an upturned bucket? | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
It's the sorest thing in the world. I don't know how Wullie managed it. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
I couldn't do it. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:32 | |
The Broons and Oor Wullie, there's nobody can beat them. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
I think it was the way they spoke, the mischief, | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
especially Oor Wullie got up to with Fat Bob and Little Eck | 0:31:38 | 0:31:42 | |
and Soapy Sooter and there was a few things as well. I ended up | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
eating rice with jam in it and it was them that started me off. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
I suppose the adults might have seen him as a cheeky young brat. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
Whereas we sort of saw him as a hero who did all sorts of horrible things | 0:31:53 | 0:31:58 | |
to PC Murdoch and basically got away with it. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
And we wished that we could do the same. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
To be honest, one of the proudest things that's ever happened to me | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
was getting my OBE, which was amazing. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
But actually, even better than that, that week, | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
the fact I got my OBE was actually featured in Oor Wullie. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
I was in Oor Wullie. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
I would love to appear in the Broons or Oor Wullie. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:40 | |
That would be absolutely wonderful. It would be a great honour | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
and I would frame it and put it above my mantelpiece. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
When I came here, the Broons and Oor Wullie were printed on their sides | 0:32:46 | 0:32:51 | |
so they could be on one side. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
So you just turned the paper sideways to read them. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
I actually put them the right way up and I remember Sunday morning | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
the phone went and it's my mother-in-law | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
who demanded to speak to me. She said, "Donald! What have you done? | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
"You've put the Broons the right way up. That's wrong!" | 0:33:07 | 0:33:12 | |
Oor Wullie even dominates the exterior of the Dundee building | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
where the Post is printed. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
I'm even happy to put Oor Wullie or any of the Broons on the front page. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
We use them for promotions. They are a huge, huge asset. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
I sometimes have the feeling that he's even sitting in my chair | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
at times or the office. I'll occasionally turn round and say, | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
"I've sure I've seen him." A lot of people have said that in the office. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
It's like his spirit lives amongst us. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
The Broons of 10 Glebe Street. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
None of them are the brightest shilling in the box. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
None of them are the nastiest characters out. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
None of them are boring. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:53 | |
They're multi-faceted, real people with the language - | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
and this is a really important point - the language to boot. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
So, they're actually speaking the same way | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
as all the farmers around here speak. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
And that's an important thing cos in the rest of Scotland there's been | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
a tendency to sort of sanitise language, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
so the characters don't quite sound like anybody real. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
But to anybody who lives in small-town Scotland | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
or actually big-city Scotland, | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
the Broons sound like the kind of people you are. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
Or the family next door. And they've never compromised on that, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
which is a great thing. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:26 | |
There was always a misunderstanding. Not always, but one of the main | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
themes you get in the Broons was a misunderstanding. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
Somebody would say something like, | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
"Oh, somebody's granny fell off the roof." | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
And they all rush out and what it is is one of these birly chimney things | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
called a granny that had fallen off the roof. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
There was always this big misunderstanding and panic stations. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
There's a kind of veracity about it, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
even though it's covered in sort of sugary schmaltz in a way, isn't it? | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
But there's something underneath that that rings true | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
and I don't know why. I can't really put my finger on it | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
and I'm not sure that anyone can, really. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
It's just very clever cartoon writing, isn't it? | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
Everybody knows Paw and maw Broons, Grandpa Broons, we've all had them. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
The brothers, the Hen and Joes. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
Although they're dysfunctional in a way they all come together, | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
they would back you up no end. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
If you had a problem that family would be there. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:23 | |
If I had a favourite Broon it would have to be Maggie. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:27 | |
Cos I fancied her. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
I really, really fancied Maggie. I thought she was a stoater. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
I felt sorry for Daphne. Poor Daphne. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
She was always upstaged by Maggie. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
And Maggie always had these boyfriends that would come back | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
that looked like used car salesmen. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
They were always a bit flashy with wavy hair. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
And poor Daphne got some wee guy with a bowler hat. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
Coming from Glebe Street didn't stop the Broons | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
from visiting Hollywood. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
The Broons came to Los Angeles. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
How brilliant is that? | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
Talk about moving something on a little bit. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
The Broons came to LA and the Broons met up with me | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
and I showed them round. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
And then I took them to meet Gerard Butler | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
because they wanted an introduction to the stars. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
So, Maggie and Daphne, and we were all there, | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
and the Hollywood stars, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
the Walk of Fame and I took them there. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
And they watched me broadcast. It's surreal. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
Even as I'm talking about it today it's so surreal of that moment. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
And I desperately, desperately remember that moment | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
when it came out. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:51 | |
And then the amount of phone calls, especially from school pals, | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
cos two of my best friends I was at school with | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
and I can't even use the language that they used | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
but basically it was confirming that I was very lucky. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:05 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
Retired farmer Bob Padget has been reading the Post | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
for most of his 90 years. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
He's been a fan of the fun section since it first appeared in 1936. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:22 | |
My favourite is Oor Wullie. Good example for young boys | 0:37:23 | 0:37:29 | |
and I'd like to see a lot more young boys like them | 0:37:29 | 0:37:33 | |
who went outside to play. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
That's where they should be, not inside. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
One of the disadvantages of today is too many gadgets. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
We allow ourselves to be distracted from what we can find outside | 0:37:44 | 0:37:49 | |
and what we can do ourselves. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
Wullie and his friends, a good lot. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
Anyway, I enjoyed it and I still enjoy it. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
As the 1930s drew to a close, | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
families were confronted with a new threat. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
NEVILLE CHAMBERLAIN: This morning the British Ambassador in Berlin | 0:38:04 | 0:38:09 | |
handed the German Government a final note stating that, | 0:38:09 | 0:38:14 | |
unless we heard from them by 11 o'clock, | 0:38:14 | 0:38:19 | |
that they were prepared at once to withdraw their troops from Poland, | 0:38:19 | 0:38:24 | |
a state of war would exist between us. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
I have to tell you now | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
that no such undertaking has been received, | 0:38:31 | 0:38:35 | |
and that consequently this country | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
is at war with Germany. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
World War II deeply affected every family in Scotland - | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
even the fictitious ones. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
October '39, war had not long been declared and Oor Wullie is seen here, | 0:38:55 | 0:39:00 | |
he's got a shy where he's got all the Nazi leaders - | 0:39:00 | 0:39:07 | |
Goring, Goebbels, Ribbentrop, Hitler | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
are all lined up for a shy. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
Right away Oor Wullie is part of how we'd all be feeling | 0:39:13 | 0:39:18 | |
and I'm sure at the time that was much-loved, that one. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:22 | |
The wartime Sunday Post not only covered the big political | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
and military pictures but also the lives of their readers. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
A military triumph of Stalin is here reported alongside | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
an Army wife's appeal or safe accommodation | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
for her and her four children during the Clydeside Blitz. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:44 | |
The Post commented: | 0:39:44 | 0:39:45 | |
Many of the letters appealing to the Post for help during the war | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
are still held in the DC Thomson archive. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:08 | |
We have so many letters that were written to us from people, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:13 | |
mainly women, who were saying to us "Look, I don't know where my son is, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:18 | |
"I haven't heard from my husband in a year, two years, | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
"I do not know what to do. Help us." | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
You don't know the official channels to go to, what are you going to do? | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
You contact the Sunday Post because they'll look after you, | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
because you trust them. What we have here is an article | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
and I'll just read a small part of it to you. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
"Regarding your article by NO in the Sunday Post, I am writing now to see | 0:40:36 | 0:40:40 | |
"if you can give me the name of the soldier in the picture | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
"who has lost his memory. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
"You see, he is the image of my son who was reported wounded in April | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
"in North Africa and who is now | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
"reported 'missing, known to be wounded' by the War Office. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:55 | |
"The War Office state they cannot trace him. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
"Several friends have brought this picture to me to see if I'd notice | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
"the likeness, so I decided to write to you and enquire into the matter." | 0:41:02 | 0:41:07 | |
That's what they felt they were there for. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
I get quite emotional about these, actually, sorry. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
Although patriotic, the Post was a campaigning paper - | 0:41:15 | 0:41:19 | |
never slow to chastise the powers that be. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
In May 1942, it identified highly flammable whisky bonds | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
in built-up areas as a major wartime hazard to civilians. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
MAN: "Surely in this crisis it is simple common sense to take every | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
"possible precaution to minimise the danger to our people. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:40 | |
"Yet this is not being done. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
"The worst menace remains - whisky stores in congested areas." | 0:41:42 | 0:41:48 | |
Month after month, the paper raged on at the Government. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
Eventually, the editor of the Sunday Post was called down to London | 0:41:51 | 0:41:55 | |
to talk to ministers about it, and sure enough, | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
gradually, these bonded warehouses were moved to outlying areas | 0:41:58 | 0:42:02 | |
and quite a lot of whisky was actually moved to Canada | 0:42:02 | 0:42:06 | |
and one of the ships carrying it famously went down and became | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
the source for Compton Mackenzie's famous Whisky Galore. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:14 | |
So you can thank the Sunday Post for that. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
In 1945, with Germany and Japan defeated, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
servicemen returned home - including the conquering heroes, | 0:42:21 | 0:42:26 | |
Hen and Joe Broon. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
This is the end of the war, | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
it's the Broons soldier laddies returning home. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
There is a huge family get-together including Oor Wullie, Fat Bob, | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
they're all there to welcome home the boys. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
They're just little capsules that are worth looking at in their own right. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:59 | |
Page three we're quite worried about. As you can see, it's blank. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
And it's now ten to four, so we're about three hours or so away | 0:43:09 | 0:43:14 | |
but not going to get too stressed out right now. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:18 | |
Crisis stage at the moment - no, I'm only kidding. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
We're doing OK. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
Over the next few hours it's a case of | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
getting the live spread sorted out. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
Pages six and seven is essentially all the sort of live breaking news | 0:43:32 | 0:43:38 | |
stories from today. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:40 | |
At the moment that's largely blank | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
because there's not a huge amount happened today. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
The real danger with papers | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
is that everything gets left to the last minute | 0:43:49 | 0:43:51 | |
and so there's too much for too many people to do in too short a time, | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
so what we try to do now is make sure everything stays as smooth | 0:43:55 | 0:43:58 | |
as we can throughout the day. | 0:43:58 | 0:43:59 | |
We've got a serious news story then we go to something that's gentler, | 0:43:59 | 0:44:04 | |
a bit more upbeat, back into serious. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:06 | |
So that's what I was talking about, the light and shade. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:09 | |
And that's right throughout the papers cos you want them | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
to continue to flow the paper and get enjoyment. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:14 | |
That's how we also have Lorraine Kelly, which is great, | 0:44:14 | 0:44:18 | |
having one of the biggest names on TV - | 0:44:18 | 0:44:20 | |
who lives locally, just down in Broughty Ferry, | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
so she's a great supporter of the paper. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:27 | |
I get a lot of feedback from readers and I really welcome it. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:31 | |
Especially in my life when maybe I've gone through things, | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
like when I had a miscarriage, I got so many letters, | 0:44:34 | 0:44:36 | |
cos I wrote about it in the column, | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
and I got so many letters from women who'd been through the | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
same thing, or just people saying, "We're thinking of you." | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
It's like, "You're part of the family | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
"and we're thinking of you," and that's amazing. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:50 | |
We get dozens and dozens, | 0:44:50 | 0:44:52 | |
people writing in asking for things like an address of a supplier, | 0:44:52 | 0:44:57 | |
this one for Cameron tartan by the metre, or, "Do you know where I | 0:44:57 | 0:45:03 | |
"can get a knitting pattern for an Oor Wullie", | 0:45:03 | 0:45:07 | |
wanting to do it for charity. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
Our readers will respond to that. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:12 | |
One after another we got replies coming back, from men, | 0:45:14 | 0:45:20 | |
from people down in England, | 0:45:20 | 0:45:21 | |
and we were so overcome with all of this we decided we had to do this. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:27 | |
So I set about doing them, and I got on really well with them | 0:45:27 | 0:45:33 | |
until I came to his head. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:34 | |
And I looked in the mirror and I looked at my head, | 0:45:36 | 0:45:39 | |
and I thought he must be the same as me! | 0:45:39 | 0:45:42 | |
So we sat about and we got lots of wool, cut it all up, | 0:45:42 | 0:45:50 | |
starting putting it in through a crochet hook in his head. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:53 | |
I fell in love with him after I seen him, | 0:45:53 | 0:45:56 | |
and I really didn't want to give him away. | 0:45:56 | 0:45:59 | |
I put him in the cupboard, in a plastic container, | 0:45:59 | 0:46:04 | |
and I went in one day and I nearly died off when I saw his face. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:09 | |
The expression on his face was like disgust. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:13 | |
And I thought, "Need to get him out." | 0:46:15 | 0:46:17 | |
And when I brought him out, I gave him a wee cuddle and put him | 0:46:17 | 0:46:21 | |
back on his perch, on his pail, and he came to life again. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:26 | |
Like the Broons, Scotland celebrated the end of World War II, | 0:46:32 | 0:46:36 | |
but the hard times continued. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:38 | |
Food rationing didn't end until the mid '50s, | 0:46:38 | 0:46:42 | |
but the 1960s were a very different matter. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:45 | |
GUITAR MUSIC AND GIRLS SCREAMING | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
Rare photographs of the Beatles in Dundee. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
The prosperity and youth culture of the 1960s heralded a break | 0:46:57 | 0:47:02 | |
with restrictive taboos or a collapse of social order - | 0:47:02 | 0:47:05 | |
depending on your point of view. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
In '63, the Post reported both the rise of the Beatles... | 0:47:09 | 0:47:14 | |
and the fall of the Conservative Secretary of State for War | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
in a sex scandal that involved alleged prostitutes | 0:47:17 | 0:47:21 | |
and a Soviet naval attache and led to the | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
resignation of the Prime Minister and the collapse of his government. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:28 | |
The Post reported that Beatle Ringo Starr came out of the '60s | 0:47:29 | 0:47:33 | |
rather better - so rich he couldn't count his cash. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:37 | |
Pop stars and their antics are still good copy for the Post. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:45 | |
In the newsroom, assistant editor Iain Harrison | 0:47:45 | 0:47:49 | |
tells the editor of a breaking story. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
Scores of fans have allegedly been handing their tickets | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
back in disgust. Not quite sure what they expected from | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
a Miley Cyrus concert, to be honest. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:00 | |
It'll be the parents of teenagers that've obviously seen the coverage | 0:48:00 | 0:48:04 | |
of London and are saying, "I'm not sending my kid to that." | 0:48:04 | 0:48:07 | |
Because she's been exhibiting... | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
various parts of her body. You happy with that for page three then? | 0:48:09 | 0:48:13 | |
Yeah, because obviously our readership will think | 0:48:13 | 0:48:16 | |
-her behaviour's unacceptable. -Yeah. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:18 | |
OK, Jeremy, if you can find some semi-naked photos of Miley Cyrus, | 0:48:18 | 0:48:23 | |
please, for page three... | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
Censored pictures, behave yourself. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:28 | |
Oh, saved! | 0:48:31 | 0:48:33 | |
As we say, three hours is a long time, newspapers, so that's great. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:39 | |
We'll run that on page three, cos visually it'll be good, | 0:48:39 | 0:48:43 | |
and it can run all editions as well. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:45 | |
Just putting an outline on this picture | 0:48:47 | 0:48:50 | |
so we can use it as a cut-out, so she can overlap with | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
the other pictures on the article on page three. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:55 | |
So I just use the pen to whizz round it, save the path, | 0:48:58 | 0:49:00 | |
change the colour. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:03 | |
Set up to CMYK, put it back on the system, | 0:49:03 | 0:49:05 | |
and then John will pull it into his page. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:08 | |
By 1935, the Sunday Post had a circulation of 350,000. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:20 | |
50 years later in 1985, it was 1.5 million | 0:49:20 | 0:49:24 | |
and it was in the Guinness Book of Records as the most-read | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
newspaper in the world in its circulation area. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:32 | |
So, if you take Scotland as its circulation area, | 0:49:32 | 0:49:35 | |
it was reckoned that six out of every ten adults | 0:49:35 | 0:49:38 | |
read the Sunday Post every week, and that made it, according to the | 0:49:38 | 0:49:43 | |
Guinness Book of Records, the most successful newspaper anywhere. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
The man in charge at the time was Bill Anderson, | 0:49:48 | 0:49:51 | |
who'd become editor at just 34. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
Previously he'd roamed the world for the Post having | 0:49:54 | 0:49:57 | |
"Holidays on Nothing" - the HON Man. | 0:49:57 | 0:50:00 | |
His widow, Maggie Anderson, looks back at Bill's career. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:04 | |
This is Bill being a street salesman, | 0:50:06 | 0:50:08 | |
almost like a gypsy traveller. Spot the false beard. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:12 | |
I think it's quite easy to spot! | 0:50:12 | 0:50:15 | |
Em, now, this was, I don't know if you remember | 0:50:15 | 0:50:18 | |
Emergency-Ward 10 on television, | 0:50:18 | 0:50:20 | |
Bill was an extra in Emergency-Ward 10. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:22 | |
This was him in the Libyan desert, and there's a | 0:50:22 | 0:50:25 | |
wonderful picture here in which he looks like something out of a film. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:28 | |
I don't know if you can see that. That's Bill. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
One of my friends loves that picture so much | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
she kisses it every time she comes into the house. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
And this is a typical Sunday Post story, | 0:50:37 | 0:50:39 | |
because the man who sells pounds for pennies | 0:50:39 | 0:50:42 | |
is a good Sunday Post heading, | 0:50:42 | 0:50:43 | |
and he went out to try and give away pounds. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:45 | |
So he'd go to someone and say, | 0:50:45 | 0:50:47 | |
"Have you got a penny? I'll give you a pound" | 0:50:47 | 0:50:49 | |
And of course everybody is very | 0:50:49 | 0:50:50 | |
suspicious about it, so the copy was quite funny. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
You used to meet Bill in the corridor, | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
and he'd be walking along with a sheaf of papers in one hand | 0:50:55 | 0:50:58 | |
and a cigarette or a wee cigar - you know, he was a chain smoker - | 0:50:58 | 0:51:02 | |
hanging out of his mouth, and he wouldn't acknowledge you. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
He was so focused on what he was doing. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
And even after we were together, even after we were married, | 0:51:08 | 0:51:11 | |
he would pass me in the corridor and just not acknowledge me, | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
and of course by then I knew it was nothing personal! | 0:51:14 | 0:51:16 | |
But to some of the younger ones, the trainees and everything, | 0:51:16 | 0:51:19 | |
he was this scary man who was just hell-bent on the task in hand. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:23 | |
Years later, when he'd become managing editor | 0:51:23 | 0:51:26 | |
of DC Thomson newspapers, he was interviewed by Jimmy Reid. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:30 | |
We're conservative with a small C - in Scottish terms. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:35 | |
That's part of what the Sunday Post is all about. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
But you're not disputing that, editorially - | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
shall I put it this way? | 0:51:41 | 0:51:42 | |
- that your politics have consistently been right of centre? | 0:51:42 | 0:51:45 | |
Consistently our politics have been independently Scottish | 0:51:45 | 0:51:49 | |
right of centre, and I think that even you, Jimmy Reid, | 0:51:49 | 0:51:53 | |
would admit that in Scotland | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
and in the mass of Scotland there is a conservativism of that nature. | 0:51:55 | 0:52:00 | |
However they express it politically at the ballot box, and they're | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
just as likely to express it in nationalism as socialism. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:08 | |
Or whatever "ism" allows them to reflect their character politically. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:12 | |
He's absolutely spot-on. I don't think much has changed. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:16 | |
We are conservative with a small C. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:19 | |
We're about the traditional values, hard working, | 0:52:19 | 0:52:23 | |
about the community, about family and friends. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:26 | |
So it's all... Hate injustice, hate people being treated unfairly. | 0:52:26 | 0:52:31 | |
So it's all those good, old-fashioned values, | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
they're still relevant today, and we try and appeal to them when we're | 0:52:34 | 0:52:38 | |
running campaigns and highlighting particular news stories. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:42 | |
Radical feminist Lesley Riddoch is a regular columnist | 0:52:42 | 0:52:46 | |
for the small C conservative Sunday Post. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
If you want to be writing for a particular elite who | 0:52:49 | 0:52:53 | |
are super-served with lefty ideas, you can choose any number of papers. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:58 | |
But the Sunday Post is a great one, | 0:52:58 | 0:53:01 | |
because it actually allows you a lot of leeway in certain directions, | 0:53:01 | 0:53:05 | |
because there is a sort of presumption that "they" are at it. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:08 | |
That the landed and the aristocratic establishment classes | 0:53:08 | 0:53:14 | |
and the fat cat politicians, all those guys are presumed guilty | 0:53:14 | 0:53:18 | |
till proven innocent, and there is a sort of more | 0:53:18 | 0:53:21 | |
robust kind of running at those subjects with the foot swinging | 0:53:21 | 0:53:25 | |
attitude in the Sunday Post than there is in a lot of other papers. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:29 | |
One of the most popular features in Scotland's most popular paper | 0:53:36 | 0:53:40 | |
was "The Doc." | 0:53:40 | 0:53:42 | |
It wasn't just the general public that read it. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:44 | |
Generations of family doctors missed it at their peril. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:48 | |
And almost inevitably on a Monday morning you would have | 0:53:48 | 0:53:54 | |
one, two, three, sometimes more patients arriving with exactly | 0:53:54 | 0:53:59 | |
the complaint that had been in the Sunday Post the day before. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
So, it was fairly important for GPs to read the Sunday Post prior | 0:54:02 | 0:54:07 | |
to Monday morning surgery. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:10 | |
I would always read the Doc's column, | 0:54:10 | 0:54:12 | |
cos people were always having "ops". | 0:54:12 | 0:54:14 | |
I didn't know what an op was. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:16 | |
"Why are they having an op?" And their waterworks, it was always | 0:54:16 | 0:54:20 | |
the wife having trouble with her waterworks and a wee op would help! | 0:54:20 | 0:54:24 | |
"What's a wee op?" | 0:54:24 | 0:54:25 | |
Like a wee funny creature would come and sort out her waterworks. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:29 | |
With a spanner, I don't know. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:30 | |
"My father (over 70) suffers badly from piles. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:34 | |
"He refuses to have an op. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:37 | |
"Isn't it bad for an elderly person to lose blood every day?" | 0:54:37 | 0:54:40 | |
There were patients who would come in every single week virtually | 0:54:42 | 0:54:45 | |
with whatever the Doc had been talking about, | 0:54:45 | 0:54:48 | |
and that was the illness of the week if you like, | 0:54:48 | 0:54:50 | |
but these patients were generally well known to their GPs | 0:54:50 | 0:54:54 | |
and I think in general it was much more of a positive experience for | 0:54:54 | 0:54:58 | |
the health of the nation, and I would put it as strongly as that I think. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:02 | |
But the Doc column - like every aspect of every newspaper - | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
has faced increasing competition from television and the internet. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:11 | |
Thank you very much. Enjoy your day, thank you. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:19 | |
The issue facing Donald Martin at the Sunday Post is how you | 0:55:27 | 0:55:30 | |
make the Sunday Post relevant again, | 0:55:30 | 0:55:33 | |
how you appeal to a younger readership and how you compete with | 0:55:33 | 0:55:38 | |
the internet as a source of news and editorial and feature content. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:43 | |
The Sunday Post has seen its circulation decline | 0:55:44 | 0:55:48 | |
because its readership has died off, so it has to appeal to | 0:55:48 | 0:55:52 | |
a younger set of potential readers. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
It has to become relevant | 0:55:56 | 0:55:59 | |
by covering the real world, if you like. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:03 | |
In the newsroom, they are minutes from going to press | 0:56:06 | 0:56:09 | |
with the first edition. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:11 | |
They say that while doctors bury their mistakes, | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
journalists print them. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:16 | |
The Post journalists tweak and check right up to the very last second. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:20 | |
With a click of the mouse, Andy Clark, the assistant editor | 0:56:22 | 0:56:25 | |
in charge of production, | 0:56:25 | 0:56:27 | |
releases the journalists' work to the printers. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:30 | |
That's it, sent. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:34 | |
-Away to presses. -Well done, everyone. | 0:56:34 | 0:56:37 | |
Fleet Street - once a byword for British journalism. | 0:56:40 | 0:56:44 | |
Today, DC Thomson is the only newspaper group | 0:56:44 | 0:56:47 | |
still active on the street, | 0:56:47 | 0:56:49 | |
and they've just spent millions refurbishing their offices here. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:53 | |
It's brilliant. I love... | 0:56:55 | 0:56:57 | |
having a Fleet Street address, and our officers are magnificent. | 0:56:57 | 0:57:01 | |
The outside of the building, the ornate brickwork, | 0:57:01 | 0:57:06 | |
the names of our titles up there. | 0:57:06 | 0:57:08 | |
It's a tourist attraction in its own right. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:11 | |
It's well worth taking a trip down Fleet Street | 0:57:11 | 0:57:13 | |
and just looking up. It's a wonderful place. | 0:57:13 | 0:57:16 | |
I think the new investment in offices and printing plant | 0:57:16 | 0:57:20 | |
is a declaration of intent by DC Thomson. | 0:57:20 | 0:57:22 | |
They have the great luxury of being a family-owned company | 0:57:22 | 0:57:26 | |
and a company that have a great deal of faith in their products, | 0:57:26 | 0:57:29 | |
including their newspapers. | 0:57:29 | 0:57:31 | |
I think they're confident that they can still make money from | 0:57:39 | 0:57:42 | |
newspapers and that the death of the newspaper, which has been predicted | 0:57:42 | 0:57:46 | |
for 50 years, is going to take longer than some people might think. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:50 | |
Sitting on the settee with your feet up | 0:57:51 | 0:57:54 | |
and a cup of coffee beside you with the paper open is relaxing. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:57 | |
Sitting in front of a computer with a cup of coffee is too much effort, | 0:57:57 | 0:58:00 | |
you've got to have a nice, relaxing Sunday. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:02 | |
In the future, perhaps it will all be online. | 0:58:04 | 0:58:08 | |
I'd rather it wasn't. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:10 | |
I'm a newspaper man, a print man through and through. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:13 | |
I'd like to think that there is still a place for newspapers, | 0:58:13 | 0:58:16 | |
even in the next 100 years we'll still pick up a Sunday Post. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:19 | |
There's nothing beats that feel of a newspaper in your hand. | 0:58:19 | 0:58:23 |