David Meade: Crowd Control


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Do you like being part of the crowd? I really like crowds.

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This is the shockwave. Ooh!

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'Some people love it.'

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Do you need a hug, is that what this is?

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'Some people hate it.'

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All right, all right.

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'But one thing is for sure,

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'our lives are defined by the crowds we belong to.

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Oh, my God. 'I'm going to take on the crowd.'

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I don't want to have to lift any of yous, now!

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'I want to learn to be the ultimate crowd controller.'

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That's the funny thing about crowds, you can never really control the way they behave.

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Or can you?

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This audience of 8,000 people has gathered to watch a national

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institution, the Proms.

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But I'm going on first, about to entertain this crowd

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by convincing them that something dreadful's about to happen.

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No, I haven't taken up the cello.

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But what I'm about to do will probably cause just as much

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shock and amazement.

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I'm going to perform with one of my favourite instruments.

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This is what I do, I make audiences believe

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they are watching the impossible, by twisting their tiny minds.

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Tonight, my instrument of mentalism

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is this six-inch surgical steel spike.

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CLASSICAL MUSIC PLAYS

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MUSIC CUTS OUT ABRUPTLY

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All right. Wish me luck!

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David Meade, everybody! Good evening, everyone! Good evening.

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Everyone excited about this evening's Proms?

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Well, you'll be delighted to hear I'm only going to

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be on stage for about four or five hours...

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'I'm David Meade and I'm a mentalist.

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'No, that doesn't mean I'm a crazy fool, I'm a performer who

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'entertains people with tricks that mess with their minds.'

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..And one solid steel spike, Noel. Whoa!

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I want you to check that and make sure that is absolutely solid.

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Looks pretty spiky to me!

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It isn't telescopic, it doesn't unscrew

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and it won't fall out of the bottom.

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OK. Happy, Noel? I wouldn't say I was happy, but...

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'The steel spike ensures that I have the undivided

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'attention from this evening's host, Noel Thompson,

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'who thinks he might get his hand skewered!'

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All right, Noel.

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Noel, if I had to ask you, based even on odds alone,

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do you think this is more likely to be safe, or dangerous?

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Bearing in mind, it's only one in four. But what are you going to do?

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Well, if... LAUGHTER

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Now, Noel, if you had to guess...

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On the basis of one in four, I'd say it's going to be safe.

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So, statistically, it feels like it should be safe.

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All right, Noel, lean forward for me.

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So, folks, I need you to count from five to one, and then very slowly,

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we will press down, all right? Start with me. Five...

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AUDIENCE: Five, four, three, two, one!

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Oh, jeez!

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Good decision,

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Noel, good decision.

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'But I can't forget that while I'm on stage,

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'I have to keep the crowd completely engaged in what is going on.'

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Now, one in three, if you had to guess,

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more likely to be safe or dangerous?

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Well, it's still more likely to be safe.

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All right, Noel, face away for me.

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Now, Noel... When can I say, "No, thanks"?

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Folks, five... Again for me...

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AUDIENCE: Five, four, three...

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That was just for theatre, Noel, sorry about that one!

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Let's hear it for Noel, everyone. Good decision. CHEERING

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Now, folks, we're down to two cups.

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When we're down to two cups, the adrenaline really starts to flow!

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Folks, can you sense the adrenaline on stage?

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It's called fear, not adrenaline!

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'I have to manipulate what the crowd see...'

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Now, Noel, in a moment, I'm going to have you raise one hand,

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any hand you like, high into the air.

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Don't think about it, don't say a word,

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raise one hand high up into the air.

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That one? Are you certain?

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'..what they think they see...'

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Oh, you poor wee chicken!

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'..and most importantly, when they think back,

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'what they thought they saw.'

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There all the time, ladies and gentlemen!

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'Ouch!'

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Let's hear it for Noel, thank you very much!

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE David Meade, thank you very much indeed.

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Standing in front of the Proms audience has started me thinking.

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I've worked with audiences large and small all through my career,

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but I've never really thought enough about what makes a crowd tick.

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I think I need to look outside the world of mentalism to see

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if crowds can be manipulated in the everyday world.

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I want to see if there are scientific techniques to

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controlling large groups.

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I want to find out if anyone out there is using these techniques.

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More importantly, would they be any use to me as a mentalist?

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Can you really control crowds, or is it just a trick of the mind?

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'Where better to start my journey than in a place

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'I know crowds gather regularly, and most of us join in at least

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'once a week for a bit of what we think is innocent retail therapy?'

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I don't think that when I enter a retail space like this,

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I don't feel like I'm being manipulated,

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but is the word "manipulate" unfair, is it too strong a word?

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Or is that really happening?

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Well, some of the literature around the whole retail store

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patronage actually talks about manipulation, in two ways.

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Manipulation by projecting a certain image,

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but the other way, probably the more contentious way,

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is actually manipulating how consumers move around a store.

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NEWSREEL: 'A new era of prosperity and better living...'

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Like most things in our culture related to shopping

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and retail, the concept of the shopping centre came from America.

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But the man credited with inventing the shopping centre was

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born in Austria, architect Victor Gruen.

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During the '50s and '60s, Victor Gruen's work transformed

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city centres all over America, creating the shopping mall.

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But experts and academics have always suspected there is

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more going on here than meets the eye.

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If you look at the store environment,

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the store environment is essentially a tool,

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so they have a number of different strategies. For example,

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within this store layout, if we look at different floor plans,

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looking at the way the aisles are constructed,

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the flow of traffic, there are ways of manipulating consumers.

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'What was an ordinary main street is now an extraordinary place,

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'designed for the enjoyment of people.'

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Victor Gruen was accused of a bit of mind manipulation himself.

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It has been claimed that his shopping mall layouts were

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deliberately confusing and distracting,

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so customers would lose track of the original reason they came

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into the shopping mall and end up buying everything in sight.

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Of course, Victor Gruen himself denied such manipulative

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techniques, but there is no doubt that modern-day shopping

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centres are designed to sell.

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This massive piece of architecture in the middle,

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it looks beautiful, but it also stops us

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bypassing all these shops, it forces us to go out and around them.

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It's called the racecourse effect. And that is forcing us as consumers,

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you can't just go straight down the middle,

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you have to go right round, to even move out of the shopping centre.

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And some of the environmental psychology theory

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refers to the PAD paradigm, essentially, it is

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about pleasure, arousal and dominance and how those

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emotional responses persuade consumers to buy in a certain way.

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'It is pretty obvious how shopping centres stimulate our pleasure

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'and arouse us with pretty lights, the latest tunes

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'and even nice smells, like fresh bread. But dominance?

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'That sounds like the kind of tactic I might use in mentalism.

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'I never realised that shops could be using it on me!'

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I mean, there is one particular big furniture shop, that I spend

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a fair bit of time in, and also trying to get out of, at times.

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Because there is one path that is moderated

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and mediated by even big arrows on the floor.

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And that is manipulation by dominance.

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Dominating the flow of traffic by the consumer,

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where they actually have to go a certain way,

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and in many ways can't get out of the store

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unless they have actually bypassed every single display on the way.

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One well-known large furniture store uses dominance in a very clever way.

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It forces people to follow the path around the store.

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On the one hand, some shoppers

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accept this dominance and follow the path.

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But on the other hand, some clever clogs reject the dominance

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and start looking for shortcuts.

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Academics believe the store uses this dominance to deliberately

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frustrate both character types.

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At the end of the pathway is a marketplace where dominance

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no longer applies. Released from control,

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both types unleash their natural instinct to make free choices,

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and they shop like wild things, filling their baskets,

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just as the store planned.

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It must work with me,

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because I never manage to leave that shop without

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something in my trolley, even if I'm just in for a wander around.

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That's because it would be soul destroying, after several hours!

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'It turns out I use a bit of dominance in my own act.

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'And in this environment, frankly, I just can't help myself,

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'and I've found the perfect participants in Katie and Ciara.'

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Katie and Ciara, thanks for helping me.

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I like crowds, they make me feel excited.

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I hate crowds, sorry, it's not for me.

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'I'm going to ask Ciara to take an imaginary walk around the city, in her head.

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'The question is, can I know in advance where she might end up?'

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I'm fascinated by the way that people behave, especially when they are in groups and crowds.

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When I look around this place, it's amazing, I see pockets

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of people, sort of conforming together, like groups, like crowds.

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And every time that an architect designs a place like this,

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they design it with certain things in mind.

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For instance the blue tiles on the floor,

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they are not there just to look good,

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but to guide people through all of the stores.

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And if you notice, it takes them past all of the special offers.

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So, what's going to happen is, I'm going to show you this map...

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'Now, look closely, folks, I've already made my prediction!'

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..Genuinely think of anywhere.

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So, stare at it, think about where we are now, firstly.

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We are clearly in Victoria Square, you can see it,

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kind of down there, Victoria Square. I want you to have a look,

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you could go genuinely anywhere in this city, anywhere you like.

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Can I have your hand? Yeah. All you need to do...

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Actually, Katie, if you could hold down that edge for me.

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I'll hold down this edge. Now, tell me, do you like crowds? Yeah.

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OK, so, you like busy places. So, you will have chosen...

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You've gone from Victoria Square, I would say you've probably

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gone up Victoria Street, that's a really busy street,

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lots of shops, bars and restaurants, so I would guess, don't give me

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any clues, but I'd guess you've probably gone a busy route.

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You probably like partying, so, you want to spend a bit of time,

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in your head, in the Cathedral Quarter,

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you've probably spent quite a lot of money there,

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had quite a lot of sore heads in that part of the town!

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And I would say, if I had to guess...

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There.

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I think you will have stopped, in your head, at St Anne's Square.

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Yeah! Where did you go? St Anne's Square. Really?

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Genuinely, in your head, that's where you wanted to go?

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I swear to God. You're joking!

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Now, why did you do that? I actually don't know. No idea?

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Like, you actually know me better than myself. I'm not joking,

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I don't know why I picked that. Oh, my goodness! Is it freaky?

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A wee bit, yeah.

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What's weird is that it's not actually that weird,

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it's actually fairly simple.

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Because when these spaces are designed,

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they are designed to try and make people behave in certain ways.

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So, a designer, someone who designs these sort of spaces,

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who wants to manage the crowd and manage individuals,

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could have designed this city to make one person go in any

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direction they like. Looking at this map, there is

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only one place that you could have ever ended up.

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That is why, from the very beginning,

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on the back of this, I had, "I'm going to St Anne's Square."

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Oh, my God!

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You could have gone anywhere!

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But how did... Thank you very much indeed, you were brilliant,

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thank you very much indeed. Thank you very much. No worries.

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You know, it's weird, I didn't think he was going to get it,

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because I changed my mind three times, so how did he know...

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Especially the way he wrote it on the back of the map.

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Oh, my gosh, it was mad! Wow. Oh, my gosh! I'm a wee bit freaked out.

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So am I! How the hell did he do that?

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Now, the worst nightmare for any performer is

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when you lose control and the crowd turns into a mob.

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I want to learn how to deal with a mob, so I've come to London.

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London is the most densely populated city in Europe

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and the fourth most densely populated in the world.

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It has 4,700 people per square kilometre,

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that's almost 5 people in every single square metre.

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Not only is London home to the mother of all parliaments,

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the modern history of crowd control began right here.

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So, I'm meeting crowd expert Chris Cocking for an insight

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into the politics of the crowd.

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So, what is a crowd?

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A crowd in its simplest term is two or more people who have come

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together without any formal decision-making processes.

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Now, clearly, the vast majority

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of crowds will be much more than two people.

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But the point is, the way the crowds decide how they behave is

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very spontaneous, they don't have committees or elections.

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Crowd control in history first appeared with this book,

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The Crowd by Gustave Le Bon.

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No, not Simon Le Bon, that's Duran Duran!

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Gustave Le Bon. He saw the crowd as a mob that needed controlling.

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He was writing about the crowd in the French Revolution, which,

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let's face it, is when the powers that be

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lost control of the crowd and the King lost his head.

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CHEERING

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The political history of mobs in London is less revolutionary.

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But one incident in particular

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changed the history of crowd control for ever.

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It happened here in Cable Street in the East End of London in 1936.

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In 1936, this was a predominantly Jewish area,

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and Oswald Mosley's Blackshirts, a fascist organisation that

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emulated Hitler and Mussolini, wanted to march 5,000

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fascists down this street into a predominantly Jewish area.

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And the working-class population of the East End said, "No way."

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On Cable Street, the Government

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saw two faces of the mob that scared them.

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On one side, the Blackshirts were organised and violent,

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just like the Nazis in Germany.

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On the other side was a crowd, equally uncontrollable,

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basically taking the law into their own hands.

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Just like Gustave Le Bon, the Government believed the crowd

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needed to be controlled, and imposed the Public Order Act.

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It informed the way crowds are controlled in the UK

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for nearly 50 years.

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But experts like Chris think the Public Order Act got

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the crowd all wrong.

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You've said that you

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and your colleagues want to reclaim the notion of what a crowd is.

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Why does it need to be reclaimed, and what's great about crowds?

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I suppose the good thing about crowds,

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and we find this in our research, is that people who actually

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experience the crowds often describe them as very positive experiences.

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They use words like "empowering", "exhilarating",

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sometimes people use the words "festival atmosphere" to

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describe their experiences of crowds.

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So, what we are trying to say is there is often a real

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mismatch between how people experience crowds and how

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they are perceived afterwards by the press and authorities.

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Chris's view is that in history,

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dictators used techniques to APPEAR to control the crowd.

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The classic footage of Hitler at the Nuremberg Rallies,

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the kind of people that would go to them would be

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already ideologically committed Nazis,

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who would listen to Hitler favourably,

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and some of Hitler's speeches, it's just pure repetition,

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where the crowd and him repeat the same slogan.

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So there is no kind of detailed content of what he is saying,

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it just becomes a ritual.

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HE SPEAKS IN GERMAN

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Hitler was using a classic technique of call and response.

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It was a case of, "I say Germany, you say heil!"

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CROWD SHOUTING

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We're all going to go to heaven!

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Call and response is popular in African-American churches,

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where it is used to bring the congregation together.

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THEY SING JOYFULLY

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And other people use it, too.

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Nice to see you, to see you... AUDIENCE: Nice!

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The more that I learn about crowds and audiences,

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the more I realise that it's not actually guesswork, there is

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a huge amount of science behind the way that groups,

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large and small, but groups, of people behave.

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'And I want to find out

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'if some of that science can help to manipulate a crowd.'

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How are you? Thanks for coming. I really appreciate you coming...

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'And I think I've found the perfect accomplice.'

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I've done a huge amount of research over the last few months

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and your name keeps coming up, again and again.

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You have literally written the book on crowd management, is that right?

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Yeah, in fact, a book is about to be written, we've got

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both the Introduction to Crowd Science

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and Applied Crowd Science with publication contracts, so, yeah.

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He is being a little bit modest.

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Keith Still really is the go-to guy for crowds.

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Most recently, he was consulted on the Royal Wedding and the

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Olympics, as well as internationally -

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in the Hajj and festivals in Europe.

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What are you going to show me today?

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Quite a lot of the techniques, particularly about risk in crowds...

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Should I be worried, should I be nervous? Not at all.

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We don't do anything that doesn't fulfil the necessary

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requirements of a risk assessment. Excellent.

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Keith's science is a relatively new one.

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The Hillsborough tragedy of 1989 was the watershed moment.

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After Hillsborough, there was a massive rethink.

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Crowds didn't just need to be controlled,

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they needed to be managed.

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Out of that emerged the science of crowd management.

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Crowd density and crowd control...

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'Keith is going to show me a hugely important experiment in that

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'science, with a little bit of string.

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'This class is a true representative sample of the subject.

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'80% of all students of crowd management are female.'

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You put the string around you. Around me?

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Yeah, it constrains density, you see.

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So, just pull that, this is one square metre.

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And all you need to do is walk up and down, like that,

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as if you are chatting to each other.

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One of the things to observe is just how people stand,

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what positions they take up. Guys, for instance,

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are quite comfortable shoulder to shoulder, but when you get into

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that kind of zone, all of a sudden, personal space becomes invaded.

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So let's just put three in, and again, same sort of thing,

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walking up and down.

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You often find that when the density starts to become constrained,

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you see how they are walking shoulder to shoulder.

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If we can get seven in there, they all look about the right size...

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Keith, I'd love to see a few more people in. Do you want to join in?

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Don't be shy. They won't bite.

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Not until they get to know you better.

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I think the big thing for me is that when we look at this crowd,

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and it is only a small crowd, although it could also just be one part of 10,000,

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one of these individuals doesn't really have control

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over their own movement, because the crowd is all behaving in one way,

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and they must as an individual too. Absolutely.

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They haven't lost their individuality. They've just lost the degree of freedom.

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If you don't mind me asking, for the fellas,

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what's the impact of being two lads amongst all the girls?

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Does it make you feel uncomfortable?

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A little bit, yeah. Why? You need to know where your hands are.

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LAUGHTER All right, OK.

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We're like twins, anyway.

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Just for the fun of it now, if I was just to say, "Stop there,"

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what does that do to everybody?

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Everyone stops.

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Yeah, but how does that affect you all the way at the back?

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Yeah, it's not nice. All right, OK.

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I didn't mean it like that. All right, OK.

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It's really interesting to do it with you students here,

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because you're studying events.

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What do you think about the science of crowd management?

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To be honest, until this experiment,

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it was just something that I talked about in class

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and I worried about after I got a job, planning an event or something.

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You know, when you go to concerts, it's really just an annoyance,

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it's not something that you really think about, but it is definitely now.

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The 2010 Love Parade in Germany -

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the original expectation was around 800,000.

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But closer to 1.4 million turned up.

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The big mistake occurred when two crowds were directed into one area.

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No-one noticed just how quickly this area was filling up with people,

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until it was too late.

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21 people lost their lives, and more than 500 were injured.

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We have a database now going back about 100 years

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of all the major accidents and incidents.

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The analysis of that has given us the DNA of a crowd accident.

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What are the fundamental elements that give rise to risk

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and, subsequently, injury, fatalities and incidents?

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And the courts don't really understand this as yet.

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You know, the impression is the crowd stampede or panic,

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therefore the crowd was at fault.

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But there are underlying causes to most of these things.

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How big of a role does panic play in these crowd emergencies?

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It's actually very rare.

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Panic is generally one of the last things a crowd does

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when all options are expired. We tend to use the phrase...the crowd...

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didn't die because they panicked -

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people are panicking because they're dying.

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So it's one of the final sets of actions,

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but it really depends on how you would define panic.

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For instance, running away from a fire is a perfectly natural reaction.

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If you are suddenly transfixed by the situation, like a rabbit

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caught in the headlights, that's more of a panic response,

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where your central nervous system shuts down.

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Irrationally locked. You become irrationally locked.

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In this section, we have one square metre...

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'Back again with his trusty bit a string,

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'Keith marks out just 1m square.

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'He's going to show me the most important technique he teaches -

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'recognising crowd density.

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'Keith trains all students in this critical skill.'

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If we could have a third, please?

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Again, take the position as if you're at a concert,

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you want to watch the event...

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'The secret is to spot in an instant if the crowd

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'are reaching critical density.

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'Crowd managers must be able to spot this in amongst a crowd

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'or, more likely, when using CCTV cameras.'

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Just by how easily an individual can walk through a group,

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they can work out what the density is.

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In fact, you can do this from even very crowded environments,

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just being able to watch how crowds move.

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Well, I think they look fairly comfortable in there, Keith, so let's ramp this up a bit.

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So this is about your upper limit now for a spectators' area.

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Now, I'm just going to illustrate this, I'm going to give a slight push on the corner,

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so if you don't mind, I'm just going to give you a slight push.

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OK, plenty of space to adjust your position.

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'Well, five seems a controllable number, but what difference

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'will one or two or even three more bodies make to this tiny space?'

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How does it feel, guys? Comfortable?

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Again, I'm not going to push you any harder or softer than I did before.

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There's the shockwave, OK?

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Now, this is the point where we have significant risk to the crowd.

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For those of you who have been on the London Underground, I mean,

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is this much far off what some of you have experienced? No. No.

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You know, it's pretty close, you've been like this before.

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Is this a common occurrence on the underground? Absolutely. Crush loading on the underground

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is about eight people per square metre, but what is interesting is you're not actually legally allowed

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to transport cattle to this level of density.

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You would be prosecuted for it.

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But we can move people through the London Underground at this level.

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If you don't mind, I'm going to try and walk through,

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so if you need to step out of the square, that's all right.

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But know that you've let me down, you let yourselves down...

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And I'm going to try and do it in a bit of a hurry.

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I've had audiences of eight people and 8,000 people.

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And truthfully, from my point of view, the crowd, I always thought, were in control.

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If they wanted to stampede or run or invade the stage, that is

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their want, but this experiment - more than any other - has shown me

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that one person can create a serious disaster.

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'What's great about Keith's approach is that his experiments

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'are so simple to perform and easy to understand.

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'But there's something else about Keith that has blown me away.

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'It's not just an interest in crowd science we have in common.

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'Like me, Keith's a mentalist!'

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You've got to understand that, 100 years ago,

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when a magician could focus your attention

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on a tiny point in space and time,

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while he pulled a rabbit out of the hat,

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how they did that was to be able to understand the crowd's perception.

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So where we use it is to understand where signage is most appropriate,

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what type of signage works.

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How do we inform the crowd, how do we understand

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if the crowd are responding to that information? Those are exactly

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the same techniques a mentalist would use but in a slightly different way.

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We're using it very much focused on crowd safety.

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Take, for instance, if I just...

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If I can take it off...

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The wedding ring, I mean, this was made from Orkney gold.

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My wife had it made for me.

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Now we've been married 17 years.

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And it's a phenomenal design,

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but of course, the band represents,

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you know, the sanctity of marriage etc,

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but of course it's not the same

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unless you have...

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just a piece of magic. Wow!

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So... So...

0:27:040:27:07

Just to be clear... You had it... So how...?

0:27:070:27:12

Now, I'm sitting right here, but you had it right there,

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and in an instant, it was...

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I've just got to... You can try and take it off!

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How did you do that?

0:27:250:27:26

I suppose my job is knowing and understanding audiences

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and making sure that... I suppose I try to control their attention

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and control what they think and what they feel.

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It's incredible to me to think that the authority in the country,

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the man who's quite literally written the book on this,

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uses mentalism to control and manage crowds, to keep them safe,

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and the way that they think and do things.

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And, I don't know, I suppose I feel like a bit of an amateur,

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you know, I'm just using it to guess PIN numbers.

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'Back home, and I want to put what I learned about crowd management to the test.

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'Let's face it, Northern Ireland has a bit of a reputation

0:28:160:28:19

'for crowds not behaving themselves.

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'I'm about to face probably the biggest crowd of the year

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'that Belfast has to offer.'

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I am not a big boy, you know,

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so I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to tell anyone what to do, you know.

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I mean, if someone bumps into me, I'd be like, "I'm so sorry.

0:28:320:28:35

"Would you Like some tea?"

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'Tonight, I'm out on the streets in Belfast.

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'Ladies and gentlemen, it's Culture Night!'

0:28:420:28:45

Tonight is Culture Night in Belfast -

0:28:450:28:48

it's one of the biggest event nights in the calendar.

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There's nearly 50,000 people coming into Belfast tonight.

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And I'm going to be part of the security for this,

0:28:530:28:55

just to see how the crowd behave.

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'This is the night that Belfast really comes alive.

0:29:060:29:10

'42,000 people will descend on the city towards street performers,

0:29:100:29:14

'dancers and a massive parade and a carnival atmosphere.

0:29:140:29:18

'Events like this have made Belfast one of the top ten tourist

0:29:180:29:21

'destinations in the world.

0:29:210:29:23

'And one million miles from Belfast's troubled past.

0:29:230:29:27

'But before that, I'm getting the 5:15 briefing where every detail

0:29:270:29:31

'of tonight's activity is discussed, and nothing is left to chance.'

0:29:310:29:36

Is this your first time? No, the second one... OK.

0:29:360:29:40

You don't have one of our T-shirts on yet? No.

0:29:400:29:43

You need to have one of our T-shirts on, so put that on for me.

0:29:430:29:46

Right, will do. Roll your hood up and put it away for us as well, please. Will do, yeah.

0:29:460:29:51

What's his problem?

0:29:560:29:59

Culture Night has been running since 2009.

0:30:000:30:03

It started off with around 15,000 and then has got bigger every year.

0:30:030:30:07

Andrew McQuillan is the main man running crowd management tonight.

0:30:070:30:10

His team will use any tools at their disposal,

0:30:100:30:13

including monitoring social media.

0:30:130:30:15

We're watching the Twitter feeds and everyone's going mad about this,

0:30:150:30:19

so there's going to be a big crowd tonight.

0:30:190:30:21

'They do this to get a handle on where the crowd is

0:30:210:30:24

'moving before it even gets there.'

0:30:240:30:25

Less and less space between the people...

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'And look at this. Brushing up on their crowd density.

0:30:270:30:30

'Keith Still would be proud.'

0:30:300:30:31

When you get to four and five, you can really only see their heads

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and three per square metres, people are touching you around you.

0:30:360:30:39

Four, you're being touched on all sides,

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and five, you can't move through the crowd easily at all.

0:30:410:30:44

That's it, OK, we're going to give you out your sheets now.

0:30:440:30:47

So, everyone understand that OK?

0:30:470:30:49

These are the most important things here, you know, this crowd density.

0:30:490:30:53

And my job is to spot when it's getting to a really dangerous,

0:30:530:30:56

unmanageable level, you know?

0:30:560:30:58

'No more chat and rehearsal. This is it. My first time out on the street.

0:31:020:31:06

'There's still only a few people out and about at the moment, but

0:31:060:31:09

'believe me, there's already millions of butterflies in my stomach.'

0:31:090:31:13

Do you get scared? Does it scare you? I wouldn't say it scares me.

0:31:140:31:18

The thing is, I know from experience, the more you plan, the easier it is.

0:31:180:31:22

Yeah. If we didn't, we've done two and a half months planning.

0:31:220:31:24

The crowd management planning for this event was over 100 hours' work

0:31:240:31:28

and we measured every street round here. Every street, we measured.

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Length and breadth, and all the pinch points.

0:31:310:31:33

So, my job is to keep people away from the wheel?

0:31:330:31:35

Your job, as all our stewards do,

0:31:350:31:39

you're putting yourself on the line, if you like.

0:31:390:31:42

And where would I get a taxi? Where's the nearest taxi?

0:31:420:31:47

ANDREW LAUGHS

0:31:470:31:49

'But, as the crowd builds,

0:31:490:31:51

'I have to remember they're all here to have fun.

0:31:510:31:53

'But, from my perspective, even the smallest thing could end in tears.'

0:31:530:31:58

Excuse me, do you want to come down there?

0:31:580:32:00

We don't want you falling there. Come on ahead. Do you want a hand?

0:32:000:32:03

I like falling! I'll give you a wee hand.

0:32:030:32:05

Good man. High-five, Angry Birds!

0:32:050:32:09

Or not. Whatever. One or two.

0:32:090:32:11

Big hit with the kids!

0:32:110:32:14

CARNIVAL-STYLE DRUMBEAT

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'The centrepiece of Culture Night, the carnival parade, has just

0:32:240:32:27

'begun, and this is where crowd management comes into sharp focus.'

0:32:270:32:33

So, Andy, we have a street here. How wide is this?

0:32:330:32:35

Approximately 18m.

0:32:350:32:36

Now, that entire parade needs to squeeze into this street. Yeah.

0:32:360:32:40

And what width would that be?

0:32:400:32:41

9.8, I think we measured it at. Half the size. About that, yes.

0:32:410:32:46

What's the impact of that?

0:32:460:32:47

Well, as the Professor says at University,

0:32:470:32:51

it's like putting an egg back in the chicken.

0:32:510:32:54

This crowd has tens of thousands of people in it.

0:32:540:32:57

Where do we need to be right now? Over there. Right, right let's go.

0:32:570:33:01

Basically, we have a straight there that is roughly 20m wide.

0:33:010:33:05

20m wide. In the space of about 4m,

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that has to compress down to less than 10m.

0:33:080:33:13

What that means is, the amount of people that are this width

0:33:130:33:16

need to compress down to roughly half the size.

0:33:160:33:18

More importantly, they need to do that safely.

0:33:180:33:21

And it's my job to do it.

0:33:210:33:22

'One thing I've got to remember - despite hundreds of people

0:33:260:33:30

'blocking the road, this parade cannot stop.

0:33:300:33:32

'This is the only part of Culture Night that must run to time.

0:33:320:33:36

'The procession has to be over by precisely 9:15pm,

0:33:360:33:40

'or risk ruining the grand finale.'

0:33:400:33:43

Coming to my bit.

0:33:430:33:45

So, if you just want to ask them to move round the cars.

0:33:470:33:50

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:33:500:33:52

All right, folks, you want to keep in there?

0:33:520:33:55

Thousands and thousands of people.

0:33:550:33:59

I just don't want you to get trampled down, that's all.

0:34:010:34:05

Excellent. Up onto the pavement there, if you can, folks? Sorry.

0:34:050:34:08

I just don't want you to get trampled. Thanks very much.

0:34:080:34:12

Just have you onto the pavement there, folks, thank you.

0:34:120:34:15

I think the weirdest thing for me is that, I thought

0:34:150:34:18

the crowd was there when, in actual fact, that crowd is about to meet

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a brand-new, impromptu unplanned for crowd that they

0:34:210:34:24

need to merge into, and I think that's the funny thing about crowds.

0:34:240:34:28

You can never really control the way that they behave.

0:34:280:34:30

Well, or can you?

0:34:320:34:34

'The parade culminates outside the cathedral.

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'Not only is this is where the crowd density is at its highest,

0:34:420:34:45

'but there are all manner of participants.'

0:34:450:34:47

Through there, sorry. There's flames coming through there, folks,

0:34:470:34:51

if I could just get you a bit wider for the flames.

0:34:510:34:53

'There are carnival dinosaurs and this chap,

0:34:530:34:55

'who's taking the saying, "keep her lit" maybe a wee bit too literally.'

0:34:550:34:59

The parade has almost completed its course now and at every single

0:34:590:35:03

twist and turn, the crowd has behaved in a different way.

0:35:030:35:06

What's most amazing is,

0:35:060:35:08

when we try to control or change their behaviour,

0:35:080:35:11

they come right back at you with a new way of changing it themselves.

0:35:110:35:15

The only difference is, here, crowd control is so important

0:35:150:35:18

in this scenario because, if it doesn't work,

0:35:180:35:21

everyone could get their fingers burned, or worse.

0:35:210:35:24

OK, girls, stay out of trouble, girls, now.

0:35:430:35:46

Girls, stay out of trouble!

0:35:460:35:48

I don't want to have to lift any of yous now! If I need to, I will!

0:35:480:35:52

Excuse me!

0:35:580:35:59

'Of course, being Belfast, the craic is going on in pubs and bars well

0:35:590:36:04

'into the night, and this is where a new phase of crowd safety kicks in.

0:36:040:36:08

'But Andrew is still always watching the crowd density.'

0:36:080:36:12

See how rammed this street is? Ah, my gosh.

0:36:140:36:17

And that, that's four per square metre. It's going to be a disaster.

0:36:170:36:20

And if one person trips over, everyone trips over.

0:36:200:36:22

A trampling episode. And then, somebody might die. Yeah.

0:36:220:36:25

That's why you have to be very careful with crowds.

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We have staff just over here, and here,

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and if that gets too dangerous, we will stop people going in.

0:36:290:36:33

We don't want to stop people going in, but we will if we have to.

0:36:330:36:36

Yeah, yeah, if you need to.

0:36:360:36:37

I think this evening is brilliant for Belfast.

0:36:490:36:52

Culture Night happens once a year,

0:36:520:36:54

and we can see that when Belfast shines at its best,

0:36:540:36:57

the crowd come together to show what they do best,

0:36:570:36:59

and that's get together, have a good party, have a good time

0:36:590:37:02

and do it safely, without any hassle or nonsense.

0:37:020:37:05

I think that's the image Belfast needs across the world.

0:37:050:37:08

And it's here, it's not contrived, you know?

0:37:080:37:11

And, you know, the crowd did that themselves, really.

0:37:110:37:14

'I suppose what I got from Culture Night was that

0:37:190:37:22

'I was in the midst of the crowd that thought for themselves.

0:37:220:37:25

'This was a free-thinking crowd. So, what about the mental manipulation?

0:37:250:37:29

'I am a mentalist, after all.

0:37:290:37:31

'I've always read about cults,

0:37:360:37:38

'where large groups of people adopt the thoughts of just one person.

0:37:380:37:42

'Like this crowd, the Moonies,

0:37:420:37:44

'or followers of Reverend Sun Myung Moon in South Korea.

0:37:440:37:47

'He started his own religion

0:37:470:37:50

'and held mass wedding ceremonies for those who followed his doctrines.

0:37:500:37:55

'What makes a crowd of individuals

0:37:550:37:57

'subject themselves to the will of just one leader?

0:37:570:38:00

'Back in London, I'm meeting a leading authority on cults.

0:38:020:38:06

'For everyone's protection, his work is shrouded in secrecy,

0:38:060:38:09

'so, we're meeting in an undisclosed location.

0:38:090:38:12

'He has good reason to be careful,

0:38:120:38:14

'because of his first-hand experience of being controlled by a cult.'

0:38:140:38:17

When I was recruited into a cult,

0:38:240:38:26

I was living in Toronto, Canada, at the time.

0:38:260:38:30

That's where the group was based.

0:38:300:38:32

And my involvement in the group was, fortunately, very brief.

0:38:320:38:36

Even though still it took me 11 months to fully recover.

0:38:360:38:39

Cults use various techniques to recruit people.

0:38:390:38:42

Techniques of mind control.

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And we've listed 26 of them.

0:38:440:38:46

One of them is hypnosis. Usually it would be disguised as something else.

0:38:460:38:51

It might be disguised as some new form of meditation or relaxation,

0:38:510:38:55

anything you want to hear, other than the real thing.

0:38:550:38:58

There's often a change of diet.

0:38:580:38:59

They deprive the nervous system of necessary nutrients,

0:38:590:39:02

to help the person to function abnormally and help break them down.

0:39:020:39:06

Sleep deprivation is very similar,

0:39:060:39:09

because it helps to break people down physically as well.

0:39:090:39:11

There's tremendous peer group pressure,

0:39:110:39:14

to conform to the wishes of the group at all times.

0:39:140:39:17

So, peer group pressure is a technique.

0:39:170:39:20

'I'm going to do my own experiment into peer group pressure.

0:39:230:39:28

'These four people are in on it.

0:39:280:39:30

'Unknown to the victim, they're members of the David Meade cult,

0:39:300:39:33

'otherwise known as my production team.'

0:39:330:39:36

I'm going to pick a random person off the street who will

0:39:360:39:39

believe that you're all random people off the street as well,

0:39:390:39:43

and I'm going to have you all answer a really simple question.

0:39:430:39:46

Which one of these lines, one, two or three, matches X?

0:39:460:39:49

And you will all answer honestly.

0:39:490:39:51

And in this case, you would say three.

0:39:510:39:53

Three. Three. Three.

0:39:530:39:56

And that would be a correct answer, gold star for all four of you.

0:39:560:39:58

But at one point, the point at which when I take my glasses off,

0:39:580:40:02

you will deliberately lie, and then you will agree with that lie,

0:40:020:40:05

you will agree with that lie, you will agree with that lie, and the hope is that our mark will

0:40:050:40:09

also agree, even though they know that what they're saying is untrue.

0:40:090:40:14

Hiya, hello, I'm David, how are you? Fine, thank you.

0:40:140:40:17

Lovely, grab a wee seat.

0:40:170:40:19

Hiya, I'm David. Hi. Grab a wee seat there...

0:40:190:40:23

'I want to see if the victim will ignore the evidence

0:40:230:40:26

'in front of their own eyes and go with the group,

0:40:260:40:28

'who are deliberately telling a lie.'

0:40:280:40:30

Thank you for helping me out. I really appreciate it. What are you out doing, shopping or? Shopping.

0:40:300:40:35

OK, brilliant. Buy anything nice? Not yet, anyway.

0:40:350:40:39

OK, good. Well, all that is going to happen is, I'm going to show you a series of cards.

0:40:390:40:43

And what you're all going to have to do is decide which one,

0:40:430:40:46

one, two or three, do you think matches X?

0:40:460:40:50

And in this case you would say... Two.

0:40:500:40:53

Two. Two. Two.

0:40:530:40:55

Er, two.

0:40:550:40:57

Hard for me to see from up here.

0:40:580:41:00

Three. Three.

0:41:040:41:07

Three.

0:41:070:41:08

One. One.

0:41:120:41:13

One. One. One.

0:41:130:41:16

We'll just go through these one last time.

0:41:160:41:18

Three.

0:41:200:41:21

Three. Three.

0:41:210:41:23

Three. Three.

0:41:230:41:25

Two. Two.

0:41:250:41:29

Two.

0:41:290:41:30

Lovely.

0:41:300:41:32

What you might not have realised is, they were all my friends

0:41:320:41:36

and you were the only one that was in the experiment.

0:41:360:41:40

But you did absolutely brilliantly.

0:41:400:41:42

I don't know if you know it or not, but four times in a row,

0:41:420:41:45

you said the answer that you knew wasn't the right answer.

0:41:450:41:49

Because, I think we can probably quite clearly see,

0:41:490:41:52

in this one here, X is equal to two, in that one.

0:41:520:41:56

But, two times in a row, you said it was equal to three.

0:41:560:41:59

And in this one, um, X is equal to two,

0:41:590:42:03

and that one, two times in a row, you said was equal to one,

0:42:030:42:06

and you did that with quite a few of them, actually,

0:42:060:42:08

but we did do it four times. So, was it... Did it feel awkward?

0:42:080:42:12

A wee bit, but just because I was the one on the end, and everyone

0:42:120:42:15

else was saying it, and I thought, I don't know, it made me doubt myself.

0:42:150:42:19

Yeah. Because everyone else was so certain. Yeah.

0:42:190:42:22

But I just sort of followed the crowd.

0:42:220:42:24

'Of course, following the crowd can get serious.

0:42:270:42:30

'The infamous Charles Manson used peer group pressure to turn

0:42:300:42:34

'these cult followers into murderers.

0:42:340:42:36

'In a cult, it's harder to stick up for

0:42:400:42:42

'your own views against the group.'

0:42:420:42:43

Theoretically, all the cult leader needs to do is to sit down

0:42:450:42:48

and talk to this person and manipulate them

0:42:480:42:51

and then send them out to recruit two more people.

0:42:510:42:53

And they come in, and he manipulates them, and then the three of them

0:42:530:42:58

go out, and they bring in more people and so on.

0:42:580:43:01

And it grows exponentially.

0:43:010:43:03

So, they could control a room of maybe 100, 200 people.

0:43:030:43:06

Controlling them in concert, I suppose,

0:43:060:43:08

much like a conductor, but instead of instruments, they have people.

0:43:080:43:13

And the thing is, when you're told that you can't ask questions

0:43:130:43:16

because there's too much material to go through and not enough time,

0:43:160:43:20

so please keep your questions to yourself.

0:43:200:43:22

If you think about it, who are the questioners in life?

0:43:220:43:24

That person we all remember at school that always had his hand up, the one with the ego problems.

0:43:240:43:28

Do you want to be seen to be the person with the ego problems? I don't think so.

0:43:280:43:32

So, everybody that's new,

0:43:320:43:33

and isn't yet a member of the group is actually working against you,

0:43:330:43:37

because you don't want to stand up and make a fool of yourself.

0:43:370:43:41

Hiya. How are you? What's your name? Clare. Have a wee seat there.

0:43:410:43:44

Hiya, what's your name? Sinead. Sinead, I'm David. Grab a seat.

0:43:440:43:47

Neil. Neil, grab a seat.

0:43:470:43:48

'I'm on a roll. I want to carry on and recruit another new cult member.'

0:43:480:43:52

Quick as you can. Three.

0:43:550:43:58

Three. Three. Three. Three.

0:43:580:43:59

Just do a couple more again.

0:44:010:44:04

Er, two. Two.

0:44:040:44:07

Two. Two. One.

0:44:070:44:11

It's hard for me to see it from up here.

0:44:110:44:13

One. One.

0:44:130:44:17

Three.

0:44:170:44:18

'Luckily, some people have control of their own minds.

0:44:200:44:23

'So, thank goodness not everyone follows the crowd.'

0:44:230:44:27

Some of the lines, from where I was sitting, looked like, say,

0:44:270:44:30

it was number two, whereas they were all saying number three.

0:44:300:44:34

I was just thinking, "No, it's not, it's two." SHE LAUGHS

0:44:340:44:37

They were all saying things, and I was thinking,

0:44:370:44:39

"Is it cos I'm sitting over here, is it looking different?"

0:44:390:44:42

But I was doing it alone in my own head.

0:44:420:44:45

'But, if Gustave Le Bon was writing about the crowds these days,

0:44:530:44:56

'where would he find them?

0:44:560:44:57

'I'm going to the new home of peer group pressure,

0:44:570:45:00

'where your friends' likes and dislikes are used

0:45:000:45:03

'to pressurise your every decision.

0:45:030:45:05

'Here, the crowd numbers in their thousands, millions, billions even.

0:45:050:45:09

'I'm going online.'

0:45:090:45:11

So, Jill, I've found out an awful lot about how retailers

0:45:200:45:23

and even psychologists use the physical world

0:45:230:45:26

and the physical environment to control people's behaviour

0:45:260:45:29

and manipulate the way that they interact with the world around them.

0:45:290:45:32

Yeah. But, you're saying that quite a lot of those techniques cross over

0:45:320:45:36

to the online world as well.

0:45:360:45:37

They do cross over. So, let me give you some examples.

0:45:370:45:40

Quite often, we are conditioned

0:45:400:45:41

to have something like a walkway around the store.

0:45:410:45:43

And what we have along the top,

0:45:430:45:45

otherwise known as menu navigation, is a walkway.

0:45:450:45:48

But, unlike a walkway in the physical world,

0:45:500:45:53

every move online is tracked, and the store can adapt accordingly.

0:45:530:45:57

Our online manipulators know exactly where we are

0:45:570:46:00

and precisely how long it takes us to pass through the virtual space.

0:46:000:46:04

In-store, we have line of sight.

0:46:070:46:09

We have the same thing on websites.

0:46:090:46:11

So, typically, people will always look up towards this side

0:46:110:46:14

and then they will look across to the right-hand side

0:46:140:46:17

and then down to the left.

0:46:170:46:19

So, this is something that's called the "Golden Triangle".

0:46:190:46:22

It's more prevalent and more obvious when we look at Google.

0:46:220:46:25

Describe that triangle to me again.

0:46:250:46:26

They know, when I arrive on a page, where my eyes will go. Correct.

0:46:260:46:29

And again, we have something called eye-tracking software,

0:46:290:46:32

that help us see all of this. So we can see that, you know,

0:46:320:46:35

a lot of people will look up round this menu,

0:46:350:46:37

they will look down here, and then they will look across here.

0:46:370:46:40

But online stores can do something a real, physical store could never do.

0:46:450:46:49

They can effectively rebuild the store electronically,

0:46:490:46:52

according to the behaviour of the people shopping,

0:46:520:46:55

allowing the store to assert their ever-increasing dominance on the consumer.

0:46:550:46:59

Without us having to necessarily mind-read individuals,

0:46:590:47:02

we have systems to track all this that automatically rejig

0:47:020:47:05

all of our menu navigation, i.e., our eyes.

0:47:050:47:09

They merchandise automatically for us, based on the patterns...

0:47:090:47:12

Of behaviour? Correct.

0:47:120:47:13

So, we monitor patterns of searcher behaviour, so that we can make sure

0:47:130:47:17

that you're meeting with whatever is the most appropriate for you.

0:47:170:47:21

Slowly but surely, Jill, through time, me, as a consumer,

0:47:330:47:36

I've moved virtually all of my shopping online.

0:47:360:47:40

But are we losing something by moving all of our purchasing online?

0:47:400:47:43

Absolutely. I think that crowds are still a good thing.

0:47:430:47:47

We learn a lot from crowds. But, we're losing that community aspect.

0:47:470:47:52

We're losing the physical interaction.

0:47:520:47:54

There are some connotations whereby

0:47:540:47:57

we can see human nature is changing a little bit.

0:47:570:48:00

'So I've learned about dominance, complicity, peer group pressure,

0:48:100:48:14

'and how all these tactics inform the science of crowd control.

0:48:140:48:18

'But now I'm going to step out of my comfort zone

0:48:180:48:21

'to work with this crowd of basketball players.

0:48:210:48:25

'Or, as you might call them, a team.

0:48:250:48:27

'If I'm really going to control these guys without using any

0:48:270:48:31

'mentalist skills whatsoever, then I need to be on top of my game.'

0:48:310:48:35

As a mentalist, I'm actually really interested

0:48:350:48:38

in the real science of control and manipulation anyway,

0:48:380:48:42

because I sort of pretend to do it on TV.

0:48:420:48:44

So I suppose I'm fascinated to see if this works today.

0:48:490:48:52

Can I, using nothing but words, control

0:48:520:48:54

and manipulate ten players to change the way that they behave,

0:48:540:48:58

and not just in a tiny way, in a fundamental way?

0:48:580:49:00

Oh!

0:49:020:49:03

I have ten players to play basketball today,

0:49:090:49:11

and I'm going to divide them into two teams.

0:49:110:49:13

One team will be the ones that I think are naturals at it,

0:49:130:49:15

that are naturally brilliant.

0:49:150:49:17

The other ones are the ones that just aren't quite there,

0:49:170:49:19

aren't quite as good as, let's call them the A team.

0:49:190:49:22

The truth is, that's nonsense. I'm going to divide them randomly.

0:49:220:49:25

I'm going to tell one team that they're brilliant,

0:49:250:49:28

the other team that they're just not quite up to muster,

0:49:280:49:30

and I'm going to see if that comes out in the performance.

0:49:300:49:33

'And there's no shortage of confidence among these young men.'

0:49:350:49:39

I am the best on the team, so...

0:49:390:49:42

It's tough, sometimes, like, carrying them on my back and stuff,

0:49:420:49:45

but they realise, from the outset, I'm going to be the best.

0:49:450:49:49

A good ten out of ten, I reckon. I would say that.

0:49:490:49:52

I don't think I'm the best in the team but they all tell me

0:49:550:49:58

I'm the best in the team, so they must think I'm pretty good.

0:49:580:50:01

There is quite a lot of scientific research

0:50:030:50:06

done on some of the most natural basketball

0:50:060:50:08

players in the world. I don't want to tell you the exact details

0:50:080:50:12

but it is to do with the relationship between two

0:50:120:50:14

particular joints on the arm, and natural capacity for basketball.

0:50:140:50:18

It has been recognised fairly recently over the last two to three years.

0:50:180:50:21

My job is to spot it and divide you into teams.

0:50:210:50:24

Those who have that natural physiological thing that some human

0:50:240:50:27

beings have which makes them better, those of you who don't have it.

0:50:270:50:32

Just test and see which one performs best.

0:50:320:50:34

A couple of you heard of this? I see some of you nodding.

0:50:340:50:36

It had been on The One Show and Discovery.

0:50:360:50:39

I suppose the interesting thing is it has usually been done with

0:50:390:50:42

people from their 20s onwards. What age are you? 17.

0:50:420:50:46

OK, it may not be as easy to spot in your group,

0:50:460:50:49

but there should be at least three of you have it.

0:50:490:50:53

You're going to play for a couple of minutes,

0:50:530:50:55

I need to watch you and I will call you when we are done.

0:50:550:50:59

Sorry, guys. Last guy that had the ball - this guy in the blue T-shirt -

0:51:020:51:07

stand in the circle for me, please.

0:51:070:51:09

You, sir, as well. In the white circle. Cheers.

0:51:090:51:12

The chap in the black bib, circle. Excuse me, into the circle, please.

0:51:120:51:17

Green twin, is that all right? Lovely, into the circle.

0:51:190:51:22

These five are pretty amazing, actually.

0:51:240:51:28

I'm sure most of you have seen the one particular thing

0:51:280:51:31

I was looking for.

0:51:310:51:32

What's really interesting is I didn't expect to get an even

0:51:320:51:34

split, but you five are absolutely perfect for this experiment.

0:51:340:51:38

We will do something with you five,

0:51:380:51:39

but you guys are absolutely brilliant for it.

0:51:390:51:42

What I need you to do is take your left hand, hold it out,

0:51:420:51:44

put on one of these.

0:51:440:51:46

What is important is this little dot has got a small crystal

0:51:460:51:50

compound in it that needs to go on that line just past the tendon,

0:51:500:51:54

not on it but just past it.

0:51:540:51:56

Make sure that goes there.

0:51:560:51:58

That's a wee pink one for you, you're welcome.

0:51:580:52:01

Make sure it is just past the tendon,

0:52:010:52:03

make sure the dimple side is on it, not the flat side,

0:52:030:52:07

because the crystal compound is on the dimple side.

0:52:070:52:10

Go ahead and do that for me.

0:52:100:52:12

If you flex the tendon, it should not be on the tendon

0:52:120:52:15

but just past that. Good job.

0:52:150:52:18

You five are my dream team and you get my lovely white jerseys.

0:52:190:52:23

There you go, very good job.

0:52:260:52:28

There you go. Good job. Excellent. Well done. Stick those on.

0:52:280:52:31

Make sure the face is sticking out the front because I like myself.

0:52:310:52:35

You five, it almost certainly isn't going to work with you,

0:52:350:52:37

because you don't really have what I'm looking for,

0:52:370:52:40

but we will still do something with you for the craic,

0:52:400:52:43

just to give you a reason for being out of school, if nothing else.

0:52:430:52:47

Stick those on for me. I appreciate you turning up.

0:52:470:52:51

For the time being we are only going to work with the A team.

0:52:510:52:56

If you guys want to just go outside for a couple minutes

0:52:560:52:58

and catch a breath.

0:52:580:52:59

Well done.

0:53:000:53:01

Thanks for coming. So you're going to have an allocated amount of time.

0:53:030:53:07

I want you to see how many times you can score inside the net.

0:53:070:53:12

Can't wait to see it. Whenever you're ready, let's go.

0:53:120:53:15

Brilliant.

0:53:220:53:24

'The trick with positive affirmation for the A team is to subtly

0:53:240:53:27

'drop it in.'

0:53:270:53:28

Good shot!

0:53:280:53:29

'Then I just stand back and watch the positivity take effect.'

0:53:290:53:33

Yeah, you're hitting your flow now, keep going.

0:53:340:53:37

Dramatically outperforming the average. This is amazing.

0:53:370:53:41

Guys, you've already smashed the record,

0:53:450:53:48

see if you can get one more in.

0:53:480:53:50

See if you can get one more in. And...

0:53:500:53:51

Oh, that's time!

0:53:510:53:53

I want to get the other team in, but you did absolutely amazing,

0:53:530:53:57

well done, round of applause, well done.

0:53:570:53:59

So if we can get the B team in, please. That's all right.

0:53:590:54:05

Those guys did... We've done this a few times

0:54:050:54:08

and they've already smashed the record.

0:54:080:54:11

We are going to let you have a play as well

0:54:110:54:13

cos you were good enough to turn up.

0:54:130:54:15

You're never going to touch that but do your best anyway.

0:54:150:54:18

Best of luck, you'll need it. Time starts now. Go!

0:54:180:54:22

'The B team's determination to do well has got them

0:54:310:54:34

'off to a good start. But it only takes one miss.'

0:54:340:54:38

You've had more than half your time.

0:54:380:54:41

'The drip-drip feed of my negativity really starts to bite.'

0:54:410:54:45

Come on, lads. There's a lot of misses. You can do it.

0:54:450:54:49

Just going to check time.

0:54:540:54:56

We are five,

0:54:560:54:57

four,

0:54:570:54:58

three,

0:54:580:54:59

two,

0:54:590:55:00

one.

0:55:000:55:02

Time is up. Could have shot better. Could have shot better?

0:55:020:55:06

You had a few misses, what did that do to your confidence?

0:55:060:55:09

We started well but it ended quite badly,

0:55:090:55:12

so I think we started good cos we wanted to beat the record,

0:55:120:55:16

then we were just rushing towards the end.

0:55:160:55:18

Overall, lads,

0:55:180:55:19

you guys did amazingly well, you smashed the previous record

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we had, and being polite, they wiped the floor with you.

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You guys got a solid 20 versus 9 in the same allocated period.

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Let's hear it for the winners.

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Let me tell you a little bit about this study, and the science of it.

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We talked you through the original study that was

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done about the relationship between the two joints.

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It is totally fictional and made-up, it doesn't exist.

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I don't know anything about basketball

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and I don't know anything about joints.

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These are little kids' bands we bought out of a chemist this morning.

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They are supposed to help kids with travel sickness.

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But you guys, in the same allocated time,

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dramatically outperformed you guys. Why?

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Just because I told you you would be better.

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Because I told you guys you were somehow the B team,

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you needed to wait outside while we were testing the A team,

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it came out in your performance.

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You guys, because I made you feel like the most special

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people in the world, like you guys are the dream team,

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going to smash the record - there is no record.

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This is the first time we have done this. You dramatically outperformed.

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Doubly well in the same allocated time.

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So I can assure you it is nothing to do with the wristbands,

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nothing to do with your joints or your natural ability,

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you just believed you would do better and you did do better.

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Before a game, you're trying to psych yourself up,

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and it just doesn't work.

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If someone else is psyching you up, it seems to work a lot better.

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He told us to put it beside our tendon, it would help the joint.

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I'm wearing it every match now. That's me. It works.

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I found something that works!

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Feel like weak-minded,

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that you can be convinced by something someone tells you.

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That is one way of looking at it, weak-minded,

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the other way of looking at it is you told yourself you're going

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to perform extraordinarily well and you did.

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So you're not actually weak-minded, you're strong-minded.

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Just by thinking you're better.

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It came out in your performance. Do you need a hug?

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Is that what this is?

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Everyone that can see and hear me, follow my instructions.

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'I found out loads about crowd control, and I even managed to

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'use some of it to create spectacular results, which is incredible for me.

0:57:440:57:48

'I'll never be a cult leader, but what I really love doing is keeping

0:57:500:57:53

'crowds happy, and here is something you can try it home right now.'

0:57:530:57:58

I'd like you to place your right hand,

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it must be your right hand, on top of left, this is like the

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weirdest cult you've ever seen, then interlock your fingers, please.

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I'm fascinated by the way crowds behave,

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and I'd like to try this experiment with all of you.

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While following the rules,

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don't unlock your fingers or bend your arms, I want everyone to

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try and turn their hands so their thumbs are pointing up.

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I'll give you a couple of minutes. Give yourself a round of applause.

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'Be honest, did you follow the crowd?'

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Thank you very much indeed.

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