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This is BBC Cymru Wales.

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Now a treat for viewers across the nation as we join comedian

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and broadcaster Chris Corcoran for a look back at 50 years of BBC Wales.

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50 years ago, someone thought it was a good idea

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to give Wales its own TV channel.

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So I've dug out the funniest bits,

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intentional or not, from that time in order to entertain you.

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I'll show you clips from BBC Wales shows that are

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old and West Walian...

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All I wanted was a few grapes to make a pie.

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..funny...

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You're not leaving your little butterfly?

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-I've got to, bach, I've got a stand ticket.

-Thank you.

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Thank you.

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..dangerous...

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..dramatic,

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legends laughing at themselves...

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Oh, grief!

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If I have grandchildren, they shouldn't be shown this.

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..and groovy?

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Just made it up on the spot.

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Plus this...

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and this.

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I don't remember anything about that era at all!

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Welcome, Welsh people!

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Back in 1964, BBC Wales were building themselves a new home.

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So, as the builders were busy brewing up,

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BBC Wales was getting ready to launch its own television channel.

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MALE VOICE CHOIR SING

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You know, in February,

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the BBC starts a new television service, BBC Wales.

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The new transmitters at Wenvoe and Haverfordwest will link up with

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the transmitters already covering Mid Wales, the west and North Wales -

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an all-Wales network.

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So, with free rein to broadcast literally anything on our own

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bilingual channel, what did we show on the opening night?

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A news item on the closure of a divinity college in Bala.

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Buoyed by this success,

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BBC Wales went in search of our most lovable eccentrics.

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I've got a collection of hats here. I'll show some to you now.

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This old hat has kept me very well this cold winter, you know.

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Protects my head in severe weather.

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And it has been cold this winter.

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And it has been cold this winter and I wrap myself up like this.

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Oh, it has been useful to me.

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Now, when going out...when going out milking

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I put this on.

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Yes, in the year of The Beatles, civil rights,

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free love, flower power

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and Vietnam, we decided that what viewers wanted to see was

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a farmer in a variety of hats!

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Honestly, this was a real man!

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Next, Welsh TV producers saw an opportunity to promote Welsh

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products...made by eccentrics, obviously.

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Wales Today discovered that in West Wales,

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one man was pioneering a sophisticated continental crop

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and at the same time they revealed the future economic policy

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that would serve our nation so well.

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If in doubt, trust the English.

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Mr Jones, at 65, has just completed the harvest

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of his three-quarter acre vineyard at Pembrey in Carmarthenshire.

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Indeed, it's the first Welsh wine harvest for 100 years.

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Well, I wasn't sure on the price.

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So I sent away to London to get an idea.

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They recommended me that 12 shillings would be all right,

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plus three shillings duty, which means 15 shillings a bottle.

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All I wanted was a few grapes to make a pie and all I've

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used my rolling pin, so far, is to crush the grapes to make this wine.

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With stuff like local fine wines on offer, someone at the BBC

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realised that TV could be used to sell Wales to the world.

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So, they made a film following a Londoner on holiday

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in Carmarthenshire.

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Just roll it from there, Bryn.

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-Hello.

-Hello.

-Where's the bus for Caio?

-There are no buses to Caio.

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-Well, how do you get there?

-Walk.

-Walk?

-Yes.

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CHURCH BELL RINGS

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What a godforsaken place!

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The miniskirt has not arrived in Caio yet.

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The women...they're big women.

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Not the petite bird from my walk of life.

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Statuesque, more the Amazon type.

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Some strange people around here.

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There was that girl from Swansea University,

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studying zoology because...

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I hate most human beings.

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Another interesting person.

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But the charming old Wales was changing!

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As citizens in Cardiff got to grips with new technology,

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BBC Wales was there using telly to promote road safety.

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Inspector Dix, the panda crossing looks a bit complicated to me,

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what's the city police done to teach the public how to use it?

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Well, 15,000 pamphlets have been distributed at schools

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and at homes in the area and for the past week,

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this crossing has been supervised by the police.

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Initially the police pressed the button for the public

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and, of course, later the public are doing it under police supervision.

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As 50-year-old teenagers roamed the streets of Wales, crossing

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roads without police supervision and threateningly combing their hair.

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BBC Wales took its media role

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of exaggerated scaremongering very seriously, as this clip

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of Peter Purves' dad talking into a Slush Puppie shows.

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Teenage terrorists invade this little village

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and turn it into battle ground.

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They fight amongst themselves, cause damage

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and leave a trail of broken beer bottles

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and broken pint glasses and the trail leads to this Beat dance hall.

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In other words, it's outside people that cause the damage?

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Yes, it isn't the Bangor people that come down here any more.

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Yeah, it's probably the English.

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BBC Wales needed to engage with a disaffected youth...and fast!

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So, they came up with...The Singing Barn!

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THEY SING

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The audience were an amalgamation

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of two brilliant Cardiff based choirs.

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So when the chorus came, the entire audience sprang to life

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and sang in perfect harmony whatever song the groups were singing.

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# And she invited me to hoodiddie in the kitchen

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# With a too-diddle-doo-diddle-ay

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# And a too-diddle-day-diddle-alley

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# With a too-diddle-doo-diddle-ay

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# And a toodle-loodle-alley... #

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If it was a Scottish song, we sang it in a Scottish accent.

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If it was an Irish song, we sang it in an Irish accent.

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# Lots of fun at Finnegan's... #

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If it was a Welsh song, we sang it in a Cardiff accent,

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which ruined it.

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# Shut your mouth says Paddy Magee! #

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Whilst Welsh viewers watched The Singing Barn, British audiences were

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tuning into the like of The Beatles and the Stones on Top Of The Pops.

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So, BBC Wales figured it was time to get hip with its own

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Welsh language pop show.

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Cue the titles, mate.

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Disc A Dawn featured Welsh acts and vomit-inducing 1960s camera work.

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# Troi pob un yn feddw. #

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I have in front of me

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an original director's script for the cameraman of the show.

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And it reads...

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HE CLEARS HIS THROAT

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.."Out, in, out, in, out, in, out,

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"in, out, in, out, in, out, in."

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Nice.

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Disc A Dawn was hugely popular

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but the Welsh public wanted more.

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So Welsh groups were writing material as fast as they could

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but the producers still struggled to fill the show.

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Such and such a song has been on Top Of The Pops on Saturday,

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it's number one, we want it on Disc A Dawn by next Saturday.

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So we'd translate these songs, then, during the week.

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# Gan bwyll, paid rhuthro 'mlaen

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# Mae bore cyfan o dy flaen

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# Hei, cicia cerrig lan a lawr

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# Chwilio am sbort a theimlo'n heini. #

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I do remember me prancing around being terribly youthful,

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singing a Welsh version of Feeling Groovy,

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which was Teimlo'n Heini.

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# A oes gen ti ddim i'w ddweud

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# Di-dm-di-dy, teimlo'n heini! #

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And how were the children of Wales served in the 1960s?

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Great! Telewele made home-made fireworks.

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It's all right, boys, it's only gunpowder!

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Just scrape it onto the floor.

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As a new decade dawned, BBC Wales embraced a whole new world...

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..of colour!

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Come on, mate, it's been your move for 40 years.

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It was boom time for Wales' TV salesmen.

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Colour television sets were really scarce and I was on the phone

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nearly every day, "When am I having telly, when am I having telly?"

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"How many do you want?"

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"How many can you give me?"

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"Will you take 100?" He said...

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and he sent me a lorry, 100 tellies.

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And that was ten days before Christmas and we got them all out.

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But not everyone was lucky enough to be part of the colour revolution.

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In Corris, you can only have colour TV

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if you live in a private dwelling house.

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If you live in a council house like one of these here, you've just

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got to know your place and make do with black and white.

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It's all to do with the fact that Corris is in a valley and they

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can't get direct television pictures here, so they get pipe television.

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But there are two companies, one supplying colour pictures to

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private houses and one supplying black and white to council tenants.

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What would be the main advantage for you of colour?

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Well, to see the dresses and the dancing programmes.

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We don't even have BBC Two, let alone have anything in colour.

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So whilst viewers in Corris were missing out on...pretty much

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everything, those not living in Middle Earth were able to

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enjoy one of BBC Wales' most loved comedy acts.

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Here they are in a sketch about a Welsh attempt to industrialise

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dairy puddings production.

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Now, the milk and the rice goes down here, you understand?

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And it travels through here, now, as far as the gurgle valve.

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-Right? Are you reasoning my thinking now?

-Yes, indeed.

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Then, later on, then, the rice and the sugar join the milk,

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come together, you understand, down here.

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If you want to step back a little bit now,

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we're still in the experimental stage.

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-Oh, I see.

-No risks.

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-Back you go, then.

-Fine.

-Bit more.

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That's it, you keep going till I tell you. You go back a bit.

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I think you're about right there now.

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Here we go, then.

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One...two...three!

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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

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Another big hit of the '70s was Poems And Pints,

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a show featuring songs and poems and, well, pints.

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My abiding memory of one particular Poems And Pints was

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when Hywel Williams, who was directing it, said,

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"Right, we're going to do this on the Irish ferry."

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# In action he had lost an eye

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# But that caused him no trouble

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# Said, "Sam, I have no cause to sigh...I'm always seeing double." #

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We realised that the ship is beginning to

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move around an awful lot.

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A gale had blown up.

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A force nine gale!

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And suddenly we couldn't stand straight.

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# Who ne'er could, ne'er could keep his legs... #

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And he wasn't the only one!

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There were 200 people in the lounge of the Saint Columba

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when we started recording that programme.

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The were five left in the Columba by the time we'd got to the end.

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# Oh, Tom, Dick and Harry were three fine men...#

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It went out a couple of weeks later and I thought, surely,

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the continuity announcer on BBC Two is going to say,

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"And now we come to this week's edition of Poems And Pints -

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"a programme recorded in a force nine gale, in the Irish Channel".

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But they didn't, they didn't say a word.

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So, we just looked as if we were too drunk to stand!

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# Did you ever see

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Did you ever see

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# Did you ever see

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# Such a funny thing before?! #

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APPLAUSE

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Poems And Pints also launched a singer/songwriter who would go on to

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become one of the biggest names in the UK and a living legend in Wales!

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So I think this calls for a longer chat.

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I know you hate watching yourself back.

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I know you do...but this is one of your slightly less well known

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songs but, I think, for me,

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it's got one of the greatest punch lines

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in Welsh comedy history, in my opinion.

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Do you remember this?

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# She said she came from Crymlin

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# And that her name was Anne

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# She told me "You can walk me home"

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# I said "I got a van"

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# We turned into a lay-by

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# Where she told me she loved me

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# So I gave her my debenture

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# Block A, row three. #

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-I've never listened to that.

-Have you not?

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-Never, ever sung that song since.

-No way?

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Not once in my life ever sung that song

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because it's got such a long ending

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-to the actually punch line...

-Yeah.

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..people would sing the line before I could get to it.

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Cos there was a three bar break.

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So, I never used to sing it for fear someone would throw

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the...I've never, ever seen that and I've never sung it since.

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So, what was the hardest bit about going from live to telly,

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then, for you?

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Well, I've always loved communication

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and I've always been at my best when I've got people around me.

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I found it very difficult, the falseness and the rehearsals.

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"Quiet in the studio, please!"

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And all that, it used to kill all atmosphere and I rejoiced

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in that atmosphere, which you obviously don't get in television.

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You also toured leisure centres to do your TV shows from.

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Quick pop quiz, right.

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I'm going to read you out a list of leisure centres

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and I want you to tell me if you did a TV show from them.

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OK? So, just yes or no.

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-Pontypool leisure centre?

-Yes.

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-Deeside leisure centre?

-Yes.

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-Ebbw Vale leisure centre?

-Yes.

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-Rhydycar leisure centre, Merthyr Tydfil?

-Yes.

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-Llantwit Vardre leisure centre?

-No.

-No, that's my leisure centre.

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-Well, you never asked, you never asked.

-No, very disappointed.

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Let me show you a little clip from one of your other TV performances.

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Some stand out, like Sydney Opera House.

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# And we were singing hymns and arias

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# Land of my fathers

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# Ar Hyd y Nos. #

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Good night, Sydney!

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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That's the only time in my life,

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apart from maybe the Royal Albert Hall, in London,

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where I've been overwhelmed by a building...standing outside.

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Once I was in, I was fine. I was where I'm at.

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But to stand outside the Sydney Opera House, thinking,

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"What am I doing here?"

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When I went on, it was phenomenal! After 30 seconds, I was away.

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Now, Max, I'm never going to have an opportunity

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to play the Sydney Opera House

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and sing songs like you've sang there like Hymns And Arias.

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But this is my only chance,

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so I've written you a new verse that I would be very privileged

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if you would play along with me and allow me to sing for you.

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I'd be privileged to, Chris.

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-And you've got to score it out of ten at the end, right?

-All right.

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OK. So, I'll take my lead from you, right.

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Ladies and gentlemen, live at Glyn-Neath rugby club,

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the legend that is Chris Corcoran.

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Thank you.

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# Wales are winning grand-slams now

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# Nearly every year

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# Because they're drinking protein shakes

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# Instead of loads of beer

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# George North is our new star player

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# One step and he is gone

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# He's like a speedy Scott Quinnell

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# Or a massive Barry John. #

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# We were singing

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# Hymns and arias

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# Land of my fathers

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# Ar Hyd y Nos! #

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Good night, Sydney!

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-Filling up.

-HE LAUGHS

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-You can have that.

-That was brilliant.

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-You can have that, I'll copy it out for you and you can take it away.

-Please, promise I'll sign it.

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-Score out of ten?

-Ten.

-Yes!

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In the '70s, BBC Wales looked to its past successes

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and decided to revamp The Singing Barn.

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The Singing Barn became The Singing Train.

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The Singing Train

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became The Singing Barge.

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The Singing Barge

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became The Singing Straits

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and The Singing Straits

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became The Singing Trail...

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..which really should have been called The Singing Horse

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but everyone realised that that suggested the show actually

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featured an actual singing horse,

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which no matter how often they pretended to stand in a river...

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# I want to stand in a stream with you...#

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..it would have been an anti-climax. Nice song, mind.

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# I'd like to lie in a field with you

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# Would you like to do it too? #

0:20:060:20:09

Aw! Pretend lovers.

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So what were the challenges of filming a transport-based light-ent show?

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Being on a train, you couldn't play live.

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You just couldn't get over the noise of the wheels of the train

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and all the clanging.

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So there was a mechanism whereby a big reel-to-reel tape

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would play a recording of the song and we would all mime to it.

0:20:300:20:34

# Little railway, little railway Clack, clickety, clack

0:20:340:20:38

# Singing along to the end of the track

0:20:380:20:42

# Over streams and up mountains through woods and through vales... #

0:20:420:20:46

If somebody made a mistake, you had to go all the way

0:20:460:20:49

back down the bottom of the track and start all over again.

0:20:490:20:51

You couldn't just start it again,

0:20:510:20:53

because the vision through the window would be all wrong.

0:20:530:20:56

# No-one can ride it but the pure and holy

0:20:560:20:59

# Lord, Lord, this train... #

0:20:590:21:03

We went up and down Snowdon about 18 times on this train.

0:21:030:21:07

Hywel Williams, the producer, said,

0:21:070:21:08

"John, we're doing Sitting On The Dock Of The Bay,

0:21:080:21:10

"but I want a bit of choreography." I said, "What, now?" He said, "Yes."

0:21:100:21:13

So I made it up on the spot.

0:21:130:21:15

And then at one point, I jumped off the dock, right onto a boat!

0:21:220:21:26

How I did it, I don't know, and keep singing.

0:21:260:21:29

# Sitting here resting my bones

0:21:290:21:32

# And this loneliness won't leave me alone

0:21:320:21:35

# 2,000 miles I roamed

0:21:350:21:38

# Just to make this... #

0:21:380:21:41

Sitting On The Dock Of The Bay,

0:21:410:21:43

or as it became known in BBC Wales circles,

0:21:430:21:45

Leaping Around A Tiny Harbour In A Pair Of Flares.

0:21:450:21:48

In the end, the commissioners realised that

0:21:490:21:52

there was nothing wrong with the format in the first place,

0:21:520:21:55

and so they put everyone back in a barn.

0:21:550:21:57

# Don't you cry when you see I'm gone... #

0:21:570:22:01

Right, what else is on in the '70s? Oh, this looks all right.

0:22:020:22:06

It's about some Welsh rugby boys going on tour.

0:22:060:22:09

Right, you two, bed.

0:22:090:22:12

In 1978, BBC Wales made a film that was so brilliant,

0:22:140:22:19

so way ahead of its time and so encapsulated Welsh rugby humour,

0:22:190:22:23

there was only one word to describe it -

0:22:230:22:27

genius.

0:22:270:22:28

Written by Gwenlyn Parry and directed by John Hefin,

0:22:300:22:33

Grand Slam starred Windsor Davies...

0:22:330:22:35

Come on, you silly f... Mr Lloyd-Evans!

0:22:350:22:39

..Sion Probert, and Hollywood actor Hugh Griffith

0:22:390:22:43

as father to young buck rugby fan Dewi Pws.

0:22:430:22:46

Hugh Griffith! Burton never had an Oscar.

0:22:460:22:50

Hugh Griffith had an Oscar for Ben Hur,

0:22:500:22:52

and I was dead scared of him.

0:22:520:22:54

Double beds!

0:22:540:22:56

-Right. Here's mine.

-And I'm here.

0:23:000:23:06

Glyn can sleep with me. I'm used to his smells.

0:23:060:23:09

We were in the Bristol Hotel, very posh hotel,

0:23:090:23:12

John Hefin, Gwenlyn Parry,

0:23:120:23:14

the actors, and he was there...

0:23:140:23:17

-HE MUMBLES

-"I want a drink."

0:23:170:23:19

You had to listen very carefully. What was he saying?

0:23:190:23:22

"I want a drink." So he got a round in.

0:23:220:23:24

And this went on for about an hour, and he was getting all the rounds.

0:23:240:23:27

And I said, "Mr Griffith, can I pay?" "No, you can't!" And so on.

0:23:270:23:30

After an hour, he said, "We're going. I'll settle it."

0:23:300:23:36

He ran up to reception and out.

0:23:360:23:37

I said, "How much did it cost, Mr Griffith?" "Nothing!"

0:23:370:23:41

"What do you mean, nothing? What did you say, then?"

0:23:410:23:43

"Room 208!" And off he went.

0:23:430:23:46

Some poor dab in room 208 ended up with a £150 quid bill!

0:23:460:23:51

It was classic boys on tour.

0:23:510:23:54

-Excuse moi.

-Oui, monsieur?

0:23:540:23:57

Ah, voulez-vous voir see ma chambre sex?

0:23:590:24:05

Pardon?

0:24:050:24:08

Um...allumez-vous feu dans mes draps?

0:24:080:24:13

Sale Gallois!

0:24:130:24:16

What did I say?

0:24:180:24:20

THEY LAUGH

0:24:200:24:23

First time nude scenes with Sharon. I knew Sharon, great friends.

0:24:230:24:28

And John said, "OK, we'll just have a little break now, cup of tea,

0:24:300:24:35

"everybody down, and relax."

0:24:350:24:38

So, leaving Sharon and I in the bed, just sitting like that,

0:24:380:24:43

I suddenly a little voice came, "Don't start anything!

0:24:430:24:47

"I'm still under the bed." It was the sound man, Harry North!

0:24:470:24:51

You're not leaving your little butterfly.

0:24:510:24:53

I've got to, bach, I got a stand ticket.

0:24:530:24:55

But you can see it here with me.

0:24:550:25:00

Knock-on. Right, be good.

0:25:010:25:05

They keep showing repeats! Don't... Hang on a minute.

0:25:050:25:08

The one person that wasn't pleased was my mother, a Methodist capel.

0:25:090:25:15

She watched it and she was devastated,

0:25:150:25:20

and she didn't go to chapel for two weeks,

0:25:200:25:23

and the minister now,

0:25:230:25:25

she said, "I'm not going there, Dewi has let the family down."

0:25:250:25:27

She was telling everybody in the road,

0:25:270:25:29

"I can't hold my head up." She was in shock for two weeks.

0:25:290:25:33

And anyway, the minister was worried now, so he called round.

0:25:330:25:36

Knocked on the door. "Oh! Oh.

0:25:360:25:38

"Come in, come in. Ray, Rachel, Ray. Our Dewi. He's let us down.

0:25:380:25:45

"That's why I haven't come to chapel."

0:25:450:25:47

"Why?" "That film, that film!"

0:25:470:25:50

"Oh, it was great! Wasn't it a fantastic film?"

0:25:500:25:53

"What?" "Yes!"

0:25:530:25:55

Next Sunday, there was Mam up in chapel, "Did you see our Dewi in Grand Slam? Wasn't he good?"

0:25:550:26:01

Whilst we've been good at making comedy films, there is one thing

0:26:030:26:07

in Wales that we are not really known for, and that's glamour.

0:26:070:26:11

But in the '70s, BBC Wales tried to change this,

0:26:160:26:20

with predictable results.

0:26:200:26:22

Thank you and good evening.

0:26:240:26:25

Welcome to the very beautiful Swansea Leisure Centre.

0:26:250:26:28

Still, at least the places

0:26:280:26:30

the contestants came from were glamorous.

0:26:300:26:32

Miss Ystradgynlais. Miss Rhyl West.

0:26:320:26:34

Miss St Asaph South.

0:26:340:26:35

Miss Flint.

0:26:350:26:37

Miss Trethomas. Miss Newport East.

0:26:370:26:39

Miss Pyle. Miss Merthyr Tydfil.

0:26:390:26:41

She comes from Cardiff,

0:26:410:26:42

although she's representing Merthyr Tydfil tonight.

0:26:420:26:45

The dancers proving they were made for dancing.

0:26:450:26:47

These days, anyone can get on TV.

0:26:470:26:50

But back in 1979, it was still a novelty.

0:26:500:26:53

"Eh, Trev, I bet you can't get into shot." "All right, how much?"

0:26:540:26:58

-"50p."

-..competing for the title of Miss Wales 1979.

0:26:580:27:01

We'll also have a chance to meet some of the previous title holders...

0:27:010:27:04

"Right, double or quits. I bet you can't stay there longer."

0:27:040:27:07

"All right!"

0:27:070:27:08

"Stay there. Stay there. Got to stay there for a pound, Trev. Stay."

0:27:080:27:15

"Stay! Oh, he's clapping you, Trev."

0:27:150:27:18

St Asaph North!

0:27:180:27:21

And Maria Bell is Miss Wales 1979.

0:27:210:27:25

And what was the music

0:27:250:27:26

used to celebrate the winner of this

0:27:260:27:28

pageant of aesthetic femininity?

0:27:280:27:30

-# She may be the face... #

-No.

0:27:300:27:34

-# Once, twice... #

-No.

0:27:340:27:39

BRASS BAND PLAYS "Men Of Harlech"

0:27:390:27:42

Yes, Men Of Harlech. It's obvious.

0:27:420:27:46

And had health and safety in children's TV improved since the '60s?

0:27:570:28:00

Not in the slightest.

0:28:000:28:03

Plenty of examples of dangerous behaviour to be getting on with.

0:28:040:28:08

Plus, in Teliffant,

0:28:100:28:12

the weirdest show ever to have disturbed the minds of the young.

0:28:120:28:16

Helo pawb a howdy-dw. Sgena'i Syr Wynff ddim amser is wastraffu.

0:28:190:28:27

Because there was no subtitles, to the eight-year-old non-Welsh speaking me,

0:28:270:28:31

Teliffant was just a weirdo in a mac

0:28:310:28:33

screaming at a man baby in braces.

0:28:330:28:35

Gwylia'r paent ddudais i y twmffat twp!

0:28:350:28:39

HE SCREAMS

0:28:390:28:42

And, yes, that is a man pouring petrol on another man.

0:28:440:28:49

But it's OK! Because it's children's telly!

0:28:490:28:53

HE SCREAMS

0:28:530:28:56

In the decade to come, Welsh language programmes like Teliffant

0:28:560:28:59

and the BBC's longest-running TV soap Pobol Y Cwm,

0:28:590:29:03

would find a new home on another new channel for Wales, S4C.

0:29:030:29:07

So on our journey through 50 years of BBC Wales TV gold,

0:29:130:29:16

we have arrived at the '80s. Run VT!

0:29:160:29:19

The '80s -

0:29:250:29:26

a decade of crippling unemployment, industrial decline

0:29:260:29:30

and subtle fashion statements.

0:29:300:29:31

Yes, the '80s were a grim time in Wales,

0:29:330:29:35

so as a cathartic release,

0:29:350:29:37

we decided to torture our own population.

0:29:370:29:40

Uh!

0:29:420:29:43

Dear me.

0:29:430:29:44

I don't think I want to suffer alone.

0:29:440:29:46

Try it out on somebody else, I think.

0:29:460:29:48

-Excuse me, would you like to try some snuff?

-Some what? Snuff? Ooh!

0:29:500:29:54

Give me the back of your hand. All right, put it there, then.

0:29:540:29:57

-Just a small little bit. There you are. Now then, OK?

-Yeah.

0:29:570:30:02

-Up to the nostrils.

-Yeah.

0:30:020:30:04

With precision and try not to grimace. All the way up.

0:30:040:30:07

-Come on, you're not trying.

-The other one?

0:30:080:30:11

-You're not trying.

-I am!

0:30:110:30:14

Don't you do it like this?

0:30:140:30:15

You have a go that way, then. It doesn't say in the instructions.

0:30:150:30:19

Ooh, it's gone up the nose there.

0:30:190:30:21

THEY LAUGH

0:30:240:30:26

-What flavour is it?

-Strong.

0:30:260:30:27

Oh, that's a good one.

0:30:290:30:31

-Excuse me, sir, would you like to try some snuff?

-Snuff?!

0:30:330:30:36

I've just had my bloody teeth out!

0:30:360:30:39

And one thing BBC Wales were still excellent at

0:30:390:30:42

was finding lovable eccentrics.

0:30:420:30:45

Vince Williams spent 50 years of his life in the mines,

0:30:450:30:48

and he's now completed plans for his final journey underground.

0:30:480:30:53

Like his father and grandfather before him,

0:30:530:30:55

he's a part-time gravedigger at the local cemetery.

0:30:550:30:58

Steeped in tradition,

0:30:580:31:00

Vince Williams believes in a good funeral, and that includes his own.

0:31:000:31:04

So the one-time miner decided to literally dig his own grave, now his pride and joy.

0:31:040:31:10

What's your opinion of your own grave?

0:31:100:31:12

Well, my wife said it's lovely now.

0:31:140:31:17

She had the shivers before.

0:31:170:31:19

No matter. Good God!

0:31:190:31:22

-You don't think it's a bit morbid?

-Not a bit. Not a bit.

0:31:220:31:28

We've done it for years. I've picked my bearers and all.

0:31:280:31:33

It's going to be a big funeral, is it?

0:31:330:31:36

I expect not quite so big as Cardiff Arms Park.

0:31:360:31:40

It won't be as big as that. Max Boyce is coming.

0:31:400:31:44

So you're all ready?

0:31:440:31:45

I'm all ready now. Only waiting to go now.

0:31:450:31:49

It was the age of one-name celebrity entertainment shows -

0:31:500:31:54

Wogan, Parkinson,

0:31:540:31:57

and Wales's very own Margaret.

0:31:570:32:01

Margaret featured Margaret Williams,

0:32:030:32:06

some other people,

0:32:060:32:08

interpretive dance of life in a 1980s call centre...

0:32:080:32:12

..and what boys from Aberdare did after dialling the speaking clock.

0:32:140:32:17

"Come on, boys, are we going down the rugby club?"

0:32:170:32:21

"Hang on two minutes now! We'll go after I've done this back bend."

0:32:210:32:24

And if Margaret was the queen of the '80s dance floor,

0:32:250:32:27

the king of the comfy sofa was Chris Stuart.

0:32:270:32:30

SMOOTH JAZZ MUSIC

0:32:300:32:34

Nice nod. Come on, Chris, let's get this show going. Jazz it up, baby.

0:32:380:32:43

Yeah.

0:32:450:32:46

Yeah, tinkle them. Tinkle them ivories. Oh, it's a beauty.

0:32:480:32:52

-So how was the start of the show for you, Chris?

-Terrific.

0:32:530:32:56

The Chris Stuart Cha Cha Chat Show

0:32:570:33:00

was probably Wales's first foray into chat.

0:33:000:33:05

Chat was... I guess it had been around for a while,

0:33:050:33:08

but that sort of light entertainment chat was still fairly new.

0:33:080:33:13

We did a special with Dorothy Squires, the Welsh chanteuse.

0:33:160:33:20

The play-on music was a song with which she'd had some success,

0:33:200:33:23

and it was I Am What I Am.

0:33:230:33:25

And in rehearsal,

0:33:260:33:28

she kind of clambered back to the top of these steps

0:33:280:33:31

on very high heel shoes,

0:33:310:33:33

and the band struck up

0:33:330:33:35

and she got down two steps, recognised the music

0:33:350:33:38

and just stopped and she said, "I'm not coming on to that ... tune."

0:33:380:33:44

And walked back and clambered back down again.

0:33:440:33:47

So we had to change all that, which meant that we hadn't rehearsed it.

0:33:470:33:51

LIGHT MUSIC AND APPLAUSE

0:33:510:33:55

Ah, well. At least when she arrived, all was forgiven and the hatchet was buried.

0:33:550:33:58

Or perhaps not.

0:34:000:34:02

Right, well, the thing to do here, Chris, is to get here on side.

0:34:020:34:05

You are a bit of an outsider, aren't you?

0:34:050:34:07

You do see yourself as at war with the showbiz establishment.

0:34:070:34:11

No, no, no, you're quite wrong, Chris, quite wrong.

0:34:110:34:13

There's some great memories from those days,

0:34:130:34:15

but it was all a bit hand-to-mouth.

0:34:150:34:17

In the 1980s, because of yuppies, who no-one really liked,

0:34:190:34:24

everyone got into the stock market, which no-one really understood.

0:34:240:34:28

So BBC Wales invented Computer Challenge,

0:34:280:34:31

which was a game show that no-one really understood,

0:34:310:34:34

presented by a man in someone else's clothes.

0:34:340:34:37

Well, this is it, then.

0:34:370:34:39

Finals time is at last here.

0:34:420:34:44

-Right, what have you got to do?

-How much now? No cost or the 40,000?

0:34:440:34:49

Save 12,000 a month but risk a shopfloor... What?!

0:34:520:34:56

20 then. OK.

0:34:560:35:00

-No, don't risk 20!

-Will that get us to 12, will it?

0:35:000:35:03

She just said 20.

0:35:030:35:06

I don't know what a 20 one does.

0:35:060:35:07

Don't click it if you don't know what it is. Oh, my God!

0:35:070:35:11

You just lost 20 grand!

0:35:110:35:13

Brain J Ford! Help!

0:35:130:35:16

Do you wish to spend 10,000 on industrial espionage?

0:35:160:35:19

-Yes.

-What?! No. That's illegal!

0:35:190:35:23

I feel like I'm really out of my depth.

0:35:230:35:26

There's half a chance I'm going to get investigated by the taxman.

0:35:260:35:30

One of us is going to end up in prison and I don't want it to be me.

0:35:300:35:33

In 1985, BBC Wales commissioned a show that was genuinely cool.

0:35:370:35:41

It had an innovative title sequence that featured face worms,

0:35:410:35:46

sand dunes, dislocated hips, the S&M X Factor,

0:35:460:35:50

a woman with no sense of size, and people who can't hold their drink.

0:35:500:35:54

The series was actually a training ground for new directors.

0:35:570:36:00

-So, what you think, then?

-I think Midge Ure is gorgeous.

0:36:000:36:03

We shot it on a Saturday, so that the building was empty,

0:36:030:36:06

so the new directors had to come up with a different location

0:36:060:36:10

every week, so we were virtually crawling through

0:36:100:36:12

the drains of the BBC at different stages.

0:36:120:36:14

For everything that's new in 1986, remember, it's got to be Juice.

0:36:140:36:18

One of the show's other presenters was Magenta Devine,

0:36:210:36:24

who was supercool.

0:36:240:36:26

She was cool on a table,

0:36:260:36:29

in Debenhams, next to a river,

0:36:290:36:32

inside on garden furniture,

0:36:320:36:35

outside on a walkie-talkie on CCTV in a car park,

0:36:350:36:38

down a mine, or in a scrum.

0:36:380:36:40

And what was also cool was, as well as featuring big bands,

0:36:430:36:46

the programme featured Welsh bands too.

0:36:460:36:49

That's cool as in they were given the opportunity to be on the telly,

0:36:490:36:52

not necessarily as in what they were doing.

0:36:520:36:55

# I'm in love, Diana

0:36:550:36:57

# But look, mate, don't tell Phil! #

0:36:590:37:02

At the start of the '90s, BBC Wales decided

0:37:070:37:09

that what a partially hung over audience needed on a Sunday morning

0:37:090:37:14

was a sofa-based magazine programme that featured ghosts,

0:37:140:37:17

Sunday shopping, Sir Michael Hordern,

0:37:170:37:19

Christmas cake, ties, Labi Siffre and salmonella,

0:37:190:37:22

and that was an actual show.

0:37:220:37:24

Only one man could handle that sort of portfolio.

0:37:240:37:27

One of the main programmes I think people associate you with is obviously See You Sunday.

0:37:310:37:36

-Oh, yes. Why's it off?

-This is your chance!

0:37:360:37:40

-Cos this, for me, is you at your best.

-Right.

0:37:420:37:47

And giving it some real gusto.

0:37:470:37:50

-I have to say, this made me belly-laugh.

-Oh!

0:37:510:37:55

Oh! With the...tappy ladies.

0:37:550:37:59

Oh, look at it.

0:37:590:38:01

-What are you wearing?!

-Is pink your colour? I don't think so. My word.

0:38:020:38:07

They obviously thought to themselves, "We can't put him in a dress,"

0:38:070:38:11

but we they put you in a pink waistcoat and a pair of shorts.

0:38:110:38:14

I'd forgotten about that! They didn't have counselling in those days.

0:38:140:38:17

But it was something similar.

0:38:170:38:18

It just goes from bad to worse!

0:38:210:38:23

You're doing literally everything wrong.

0:38:240:38:26

-And then your battery pack fell out.

-Yes.

0:38:260:38:29

Dear, oh, dear, oh, dear!

0:38:310:38:33

Oh!

0:38:380:38:40

Well, you've made my day, now. I'd forgotten I'd done that.

0:38:400:38:43

I'd just pushed it from my mind, and now it's rushed back in. Extraordinary.

0:38:430:38:46

The next little clip I want to show you,

0:38:460:38:49

because this is a real testament to your professionalism

0:38:490:38:53

of keeping an interview going under pressure.

0:38:530:38:56

Arabella Melville, you've just written a book about food and sex.

0:38:580:39:02

-Yes, it's the Good Sex Diet.

-The Good Sex Diet.

0:39:020:39:05

Can I introduce Colin as well?

0:39:050:39:07

-It takes two, as they say, to tango.

-Are we talking about tango here?

0:39:070:39:12

What kind of food are we talking about here?

0:39:120:39:15

-We're talking, actually, about some of the classical aphrodisiacs.

-Yes.

0:39:150:39:19

Oysters, for instance,

0:39:190:39:20

are the most concentrated source of zinc you can get.

0:39:200:39:23

I'd rather suck corrugated iron than eat oysters, to be honest.

0:39:230:39:26

I'm with you! I get up in the night with oysters.

0:39:260:39:28

Dear, oh, dear. I can't take seafood like that.

0:39:280:39:31

In the Good Sex Diet,

0:39:310:39:32

I'm actually trying to create a whole atmosphere for the readers,

0:39:320:39:36

get your juices flowing just from reading the book.

0:39:360:39:39

-Gastronomic juices.

-I see.

-Not just gastronomic juices.

0:39:390:39:42

Oh! Look at you.

0:39:420:39:45

What about other things which have health benefits as well?

0:39:450:39:48

I was thinking of carrots.

0:39:480:39:49

Desperate. Carrots! So they can help you to see where you're going.

0:39:520:39:57

Were they in your ear going, "Go to vegetables! Go to something safe!"

0:39:570:40:01

That it hilarious. Your reaction was brilliant.

0:40:010:40:04

# There's no business like show business... #

0:40:040:40:08

And See You Sunday also featured someone else you might recognise.

0:40:080:40:11

No. No. Yes.

0:40:140:40:17

It's 7.30 on a cold damp night here in Usk.

0:40:170:40:21

We're at Cliff Richard's second home, Savvas Nightclub,

0:40:210:40:24

where tonight it's the final of the Karaoke Championships.

0:40:240:40:27

Already inside the club they're limbering up, flexing those vocal chords.

0:40:270:40:32

Let's go inside and get a piece of the action.

0:40:320:40:35

-HE SINGS VERY BADLY:

-# Please release me

0:40:350:40:39

# Can't you see? #

0:40:390:40:43

When this next young lady walked in the joint,

0:40:430:40:46

we knew she was a gal of distinction.

0:40:460:40:48

# Spend a little time with me. #

0:40:480:40:52

CHEERING

0:40:520:40:55

We've got a scout here from EMI Records,

0:40:550:40:57

and they're going to take the tapes back to the A&R department in London,

0:40:570:41:01

and they might get a recording contract out of one of them.

0:41:010:41:04

We may find tonight the new Rick Astley or Samantha Fox.

0:41:040:41:07

What a frightening thought!

0:41:070:41:08

With bags of undiscovered singing talent around,

0:41:140:41:17

Wales was the perfect hunting ground

0:41:170:41:19

for one man in search of the stars of tomorrow...

0:41:190:41:22

and yesterday.

0:41:220:41:24

# Sisters, sisters

0:41:240:41:27

# There were never such devoted sisters. #

0:41:270:41:30

# Luck be a lady tonight

0:41:300:41:33

# Luck be a lady tonight. #

0:41:330:41:36

-# Go on, now, go!

-I'm off!

0:41:360:41:38

-# Walk out the door

-There's no door. #

0:41:380:41:40

First time we did auditions,

0:41:400:41:43

Titanic was number one in the charts,

0:41:430:41:46

and this first girl singer came in and there were six of us in a line,

0:41:460:41:50

Geraint Evans, myself, Alan Wakeman,

0:41:500:41:52

one of the co-writers, sitting there saying,

0:41:520:41:54

"What are you going to sing?"

0:41:540:41:55

"I'm going to sing the theme from Titanic."

0:41:550:41:57

"Oh, that's a lovely song. Great." This was nine o'clock in the morning.

0:41:570:42:00

"She was quite nice. We'll give her eight out of ten."

0:42:000:42:04

About two in again. "What you doing?" "Theme from Titanic."

0:42:040:42:07

"Oh, there we are."

0:42:070:42:08

By the time three o'clock came, we had about 75 Titanics,

0:42:080:42:12

so in the end, I was just drawing ships across the line.

0:42:120:42:15

I keep drawing them, and if went down like that,

0:42:150:42:17

they were no good, but if they got to the end of the page, they were in.

0:42:170:42:21

# My heart will go on and on. #

0:42:210:42:28

Glug, glug, glug!

0:42:280:42:30

You look at X Factor these days, and they stole a lot of our ideas,

0:42:300:42:33

I must be honest with you, like filming the auditions,

0:42:330:42:36

going on the streets, going to the houses, surprising people.

0:42:360:42:40

Hello, Simon Cowell, please.

0:42:400:42:42

Hello, Simon Cowell.

0:42:430:42:45

I'm phoning on behalf of Owen Money.

0:42:450:42:47

You do know who he is! You stole all his ideas.

0:42:480:42:51

Just up your street.

0:42:520:42:53

Hello? Hello?

0:42:540:42:56

In the noughties,

0:43:000:43:01

BBC Wales decided to take serious current affairs presenters

0:43:010:43:05

out of the field that they were good at and put them in the field.

0:43:050:43:08

Often literally.

0:43:080:43:10

It was a format that was well received,

0:43:100:43:13

-except for amongst corn farmers, where...

-It was massively unpopular.

0:43:130:43:17

They were newscasters. They went outside. He had a tie.

0:43:190:43:24

She had six buttons. They had cars.

0:43:240:43:28

And eyes. There are his.

0:43:280:43:30

Gearstick.

0:43:300:43:32

They were out of their field.

0:43:320:43:35

And when they got together, they did lots of TV serieses.

0:43:350:43:39

GALLERY MUSIC FROM "Vision On"

0:43:390:43:42

Et cetera.

0:43:580:44:00

And then there was Derek.

0:44:000:44:03

There was one occasion that I was filming in Holyhead

0:44:060:44:09

and for some reason, I kept on coming out with the word "Hollywood".

0:44:090:44:15

So I was trying to deliver these lines,

0:44:150:44:17

and I kept on saying "Hollywood" instead of "Holyhead",

0:44:170:44:20

and it was fun for a few times that I made this mistake,

0:44:200:44:25

but after about 10 or 20 times, I kept on saying "Hollywood",

0:44:250:44:29

the producer and the team were getting a bit cheesed off.

0:44:290:44:34

That hasn't stopped BBC Wales

0:44:340:44:35

coming up with other series ideas for Derek.

0:44:350:44:38

Here are a few clips from Derek's shows in development.

0:44:380:44:41

Weatherman Standing.

0:44:410:44:42

Weatherman Squatting.

0:44:420:44:44

And Weatherman Falling Over.

0:44:440:44:46

And I know someone who was taken even further out

0:44:470:44:50

of their comfort zone by BBC Wales.

0:44:500:44:52

Listen, tell me in your own words, someone who hasn't seen

0:44:560:44:59

Work Experience, describe what the format is.

0:44:590:45:02

Everyone is fascinated by stand-up comedy.

0:45:020:45:05

They say to you, always,

0:45:050:45:06

"I could never do that, it must be the hardest thing in the world."

0:45:060:45:10

For me, I would find it much harder

0:45:100:45:12

to be a binman, a teacher, a policeman.

0:45:120:45:15

The one which is probably my favourite, which is drag queen,

0:45:150:45:17

which clearly, I think, is you properly out of your depth.

0:45:170:45:21

I immediately knew that I would be so horrifically out of my depth

0:45:210:45:24

that I almost didn't want to do it. Ceri Dupree, my mentor.

0:45:240:45:28

Can you say, "Thank you, sweethearts?"

0:45:280:45:31

HE GARBLES

0:45:330:45:34

Thank you!

0:45:360:45:38

-Are you being Shirley Bassey?

-Yeah, I'm channelling Bassey there.

0:45:380:45:41

That was like Prince Charles.

0:45:410:45:43

I think I might have to think Prince Charles, do I? Thank you!

0:45:430:45:47

-I love you.

-I love you.

0:45:470:45:49

-I love you all.

-I love you all even more.

0:45:490:45:52

-Prince Charles.

-Yes.

0:45:520:45:55

That's great fun.

0:45:570:45:58

-Yeah, great fun.

-That's really funny.

0:45:580:46:00

But what's great is that I can tell you're trying.

0:46:000:46:03

-You're really trying.

-I have three days.

0:46:030:46:06

One day training to be a teacher, or two days training to be a teacher.

0:46:060:46:11

So all of these things, I'm just getting my excuses in,

0:46:110:46:15

I'm not going to be very good at any of them.

0:46:150:46:17

This is so bad, it's an absolute joy.

0:46:170:46:22

Should have started by now.

0:46:230:46:24

# The minute you walked in the joint

0:46:240:46:26

# I could see you were a man... #

0:46:260:46:29

Look at Ceri's face!

0:46:290:46:32

# Good-looking, so refined... #

0:46:320:46:36

He liked it, that guy on the end.

0:46:380:46:40

It wasn't that good.

0:46:400:46:42

Every time I see that, that is just hilarious. That's really funny.

0:46:420:46:46

Are you...? What is your feeling, going into that?

0:46:460:46:50

For that, a mixture of just not knowing where you're at.

0:46:500:46:55

Being all at sea, going... As a comedian, you want it to be amusing,

0:46:550:46:58

but you're trying to do it properly, but also you're feeling too shy

0:46:580:47:02

and self-conscious to do it properly. Just a whole mix of emotions

0:47:020:47:07

that ends up all going into a big pot and coming out as that.

0:47:070:47:11

I've never felt as uncomfortable and as not knowing how to be.

0:47:110:47:15

I was trying to hide it by going into the crowd and messing about.

0:47:150:47:18

# The minute you walked in the joint

0:47:180:47:20

# I could tell you were a man of distinction

0:47:200:47:23

# A real big spender

0:47:230:47:26

# Good-looking, so refined

0:47:260:47:29

# Wouldn't you like to know what's going on in my mind?

0:47:290:47:33

# So now we get right to the point

0:47:330:47:36

# I don't pop my cork for every boy I see... #

0:47:360:47:40

This is the performer coming out now.

0:47:400:47:42

Well, this is somebody trying to, a performer trying to cope with...

0:47:420:47:46

Being out of your depth.

0:47:480:47:50

Yeah, but a little bit of you enjoying it, a little part of you...

0:47:500:47:54

Look at these characters!

0:47:540:47:55

-Like a hairy Tina Turner.

-Genuinely enjoying it.

0:48:030:48:08

If drag queen was you really exposed and out on a limb

0:48:080:48:11

and not knowing what you're doing, teaching was maybe the most

0:48:110:48:14

worthy one, or the one that you got most from.

0:48:140:48:19

Teaching is so different from when I was in primary school,

0:48:190:48:22

which is the 1970s. At the start, I was genuinely thrown.

0:48:220:48:25

This is genuine facilitated learning. Remember this one?

0:48:250:48:29

-Now then, that's your boat, is it?

-Yes.

0:48:290:48:31

Can you think of any reason why that wouldn't float as well as a boat?

0:48:310:48:36

-Because it's made out of Play-Doh.

-Because it's made out of Play-Doh?

0:48:360:48:41

Yeah.

0:48:410:48:42

Have you sealed all holes? Are they absolutely 100% water resistant?

0:48:420:48:46

Are they? OK, now then, let's see if this floats in the pond.

0:48:460:48:51

Oh! High-five!

0:48:510:48:54

Cute.

0:48:540:48:55

You made it float in the pond. Didn't you?

0:48:550:48:57

Then she pulls a trick on me.

0:48:570:48:59

Now, then.

0:48:590:49:01

This is the kid, though. This is the one I like.

0:49:010:49:03

Can you see any reason why this might not float?

0:49:030:49:05

See, that's great teaching!

0:49:050:49:07

Because it's made out of Play-Doh.

0:49:070:49:08

Because it's got a massive lump of Play-Doh at the bottom of it.

0:49:080:49:11

CHILDREN LAUGH

0:49:140:49:15

Ah! Sweet!

0:49:190:49:21

What's not to like? Working with kids, they're just absolutely wonderful.

0:49:210:49:26

A joy, an absolute joy.

0:49:260:49:28

Has it changed your perspective on life and jobs, having done it?

0:49:280:49:32

Don't be daft! It's only a TV series.

0:49:320:49:37

Despite us Welsh being a naturally modest people, BBC Wales

0:49:380:49:42

has got very good at promoting itself, especially in sport.

0:49:420:49:46

This bouncing ball trail for Wales's 1994 World Cup qualifying campaign

0:49:480:49:53

changed the way drunk people sang along to Andy Williams for ever.

0:49:530:49:58

-And remember Henry's heroes?

-It's the Stereophonics!

0:50:070:50:12

-How's it going, boys?

-Any spare tickets?

-Who are these guys?

0:50:120:50:17

-Are they Welsh?

-Aye, full on, man.

-Give us a go on your banjo.

0:50:170:50:20

-I think it's a bit out of tune.

-Can you play?

-Aye.

0:50:210:50:26

# Standing at the bus stop. #

0:50:260:50:28

No, can you play on the wing?

0:50:280:50:29

# We don't want to be your enemy. #

0:50:290:50:35

But the promo that took on a life of its own was Scrum 4,

0:50:350:50:38

a bunch of on-screen rugby fan mates,

0:50:380:50:41

Iestyn and Keith, and lovebirds Daf and Megan.

0:50:410:50:44

We were just these four friends who just wanted to get on TV.

0:50:460:50:51

And to get on TV, they pulled out their secret weapon.

0:50:530:50:57

Extendable leek. Gosh, what a nuisance that was.

0:50:570:51:02

We couldn't, we took it somewhere and they wouldn't let us in with it.

0:51:020:51:05

I think it might have been in Italy.

0:51:050:51:07

Into position, right in front of the Grandstand box.

0:51:070:51:11

All ready, prepared.

0:51:110:51:12

Preparation. Key.

0:51:120:51:15

We need to go that way. That way. That way. Keep going.

0:51:180:51:20

Lift it higher. Higher. The leek is on.

0:51:200:51:23

..and the yellow card.

0:51:230:51:25

We're on! That's it. Definite.

0:51:250:51:28

That away, away for two...

0:51:280:51:30

They've switched. Different camera shot. Come this way.

0:51:300:51:33

For Scotland to deliver something like that...

0:51:330:51:36

It would be massive.

0:51:360:51:37

Well, Grandstand had gone off the air, but we didn't stop there.

0:51:370:51:42

We went back for a bonus channel.

0:51:420:51:43

We're on S4C as well.

0:51:450:51:46

Yeah, we got S4C.

0:51:460:51:48

Oddi wrtha ni gyd, hwyl fawr.

0:51:480:51:50

Yes, big success.

0:51:500:51:52

And, of course, the big plot line was...

0:51:540:51:57

Megan got pregnant and so we did a big episode with me heavily pregnant.

0:51:570:52:04

I knew that I had one shot at going into labour in front of

0:52:040:52:11

however many 70,000 people in the stadium,

0:52:110:52:16

which was really nerve-racking.

0:52:160:52:19

People were genuinely worried about me.

0:52:200:52:23

I wanted to say, "I'm absolutely fine, and it's not real!"

0:52:230:52:28

I was in Marks & Spencer's, buying some food,

0:52:280:52:31

and this little old man, who must have been in his 80s,

0:52:310:52:35

came up to me and held my hand and said, "You're Megan. You're Megan!

0:52:350:52:40

"We love watching you! How's Daf? How's the baby?"

0:52:400:52:44

And you just think, "This is awful."

0:52:440:52:46

And I couldn't bear to tell him that it wasn't real, so I said,

0:52:460:52:50

"Yes, they're fine, they're lovely."

0:52:500:52:52

Then he went off and got his wife and said,

0:52:520:52:54

"My wife is in the next aisle."

0:52:540:52:55

He went off and got his wife

0:52:550:52:57

and there was this little elderly couple chatting away to me

0:52:570:53:01

and I hope they're not watching this.

0:53:010:53:03

Snowdonia 1890 was a series that took modern families

0:53:060:53:10

used to central heating, kettles, cars, tin-openers,

0:53:100:53:14

sitting down all day in front of a computer, supermarkets,

0:53:140:53:17

mobile phones and washing machines, and put them up a mountain.

0:53:170:53:21

So the audience could...

0:53:210:53:23

Now experience how they coped with the tough realities of Snowdonia 1890.

0:53:230:53:28

And on the whole, they found it...

0:53:280:53:31

It is the hardest thing I have ever done in my life.

0:53:310:53:35

You know what would be an awesome follow-up series?

0:53:350:53:39

Taking a family from the 1890s and making THEM live in the present.

0:53:390:53:43

If only there was a way of travelling through time on the TV!

0:53:430:53:48

For the last nine years, Dr Who has been made by BBC Wales,

0:53:530:53:57

and in Wales, so half the fun,

0:53:570:53:59

apart from following the genius Doctors, the foxy sidekicks

0:53:590:54:03

and the terrifying aliens, has been to play Welsh location I Spy.

0:54:030:54:08

Um...Castell Coch!

0:54:090:54:12

-DING

-Yes!

0:54:120:54:14

Market Square, Pontypridd.

0:54:140:54:17

-DING

-Yes!

0:54:170:54:18

No way! That's the Monkey Tump in Tonteg.

0:54:200:54:24

That's where I grew up! Is it?

0:54:240:54:25

Everything is fine!

0:54:250:54:26

-DING

-Yes!

0:54:260:54:27

Nothing's wrong. It's all fine.

0:54:270:54:30

-And that's the Millennium Stadium.

-HONK

0:54:300:54:32

Oh, no! Millennium Centre. I meant Centre.

0:54:320:54:34

One of the advantages of filming in Wales on a Friday night,

0:54:360:54:39

of course, is that you don't have to pay extras.

0:54:390:54:41

But sometimes it can impact on the residents, especially

0:54:410:54:45

when the call of nature gets in the way of filming.

0:54:450:54:48

Humans will leave their homes. The males, the females...

0:54:480:54:55

A lot of the filming for Doctor Who

0:54:550:54:56

had taken place in the middle of Cardiff,

0:54:560:54:58

so it wasn't unusual to see the film crew there and now

0:54:580:55:00

and then we'd see a little Dalek trundle into the street.

0:55:000:55:03

It was the night before the 2008 Wales Grand Slam,

0:55:030:55:06

and I had arranged for all the cast and crew to use a local pub.

0:55:060:55:09

This particular pub was very busy with French rugby fans.

0:55:090:55:13

It was pandemonium. And during the night, I visited a friend,

0:55:130:55:16

John Lloyd, who lives just round the corner.

0:55:160:55:18

I knocked the door, it was late,

0:55:180:55:20

it was maybe two o'clock in the morning,

0:55:200:55:22

and John answered and he was there in a rugby jersey,

0:55:220:55:26

nice big loose-fitting rugby jersey, pair of shorts.

0:55:260:55:29

I said, "What's the matter? I'd do anything for you."

0:55:290:55:31

He said, "I need to use your toilet."

0:55:310:55:33

I said, "You don't have to ask. Just come in." "It's not for me."

0:55:330:55:36

Billie Piper, one of our main stars, needs to use the toilet.

0:55:360:55:39

You'd imagine the location manager would have organised toilets, but there'd been a bit of a lapse.

0:55:390:55:44

He thought I was joking. I said, "I'm serious. Back in five minutes."

0:55:440:55:47

My wife went into overdrive then, upstairs cleaning and polishing,

0:55:470:55:50

we had to give a good ten-minute spruce-up just to make sure

0:55:500:55:53

the facilities were to a suitable celebrity standard.

0:55:530:55:56

And he opened the door like Stars In Their Eyes.

0:55:560:55:59

He was there, the rugby jersey had gone.

0:55:590:56:02

He had a black suit on, he had a white shirt with open collar.

0:56:020:56:05

I was absolutely gobsmacked.

0:56:050:56:07

Nice small girl, ordinary everyday person. She was lovely.

0:56:070:56:11

You're Donna Noble's family, right? I'm Rose Tyler. And I need you.

0:56:110:56:16

Ever since Max Boyce, BBC Wales has been trying to develop the Holy Grail of TV formats,

0:56:160:56:21

one that blends entertainment and rugby.

0:56:210:56:24

Who knows? Maybe one day they'll find it.

0:56:240:56:26

But in the meantime, they asked me to do this.

0:56:260:56:29

Come on! I had to crowbar this in somehow.

0:56:290:56:32

Mark Titley. And that is a try for Eddie Butler,

0:56:320:56:36

the slowest number eight ever to play for Wales.

0:56:360:56:39

What was he doing there?!

0:56:390:56:40

Straight on.

0:56:420:56:44

Was the modern line-out as scary as I had imagined?

0:56:440:56:47

HE YELPS

0:56:470:56:48

I'd made an involuntary noise. Yes, it was.

0:56:480:56:51

Out of all the interviews I've done,

0:56:510:56:53

the one that people ask me about the most is the one with...

0:56:530:56:56

-the good sport and rugby legend that is Will Carling.

-Correct.

0:56:560:56:59

The legend and the... Yeah. Chris, your time on the rugby legend

0:56:590:57:02

and good sport that is Will Carling starts now.

0:57:020:57:05

Who was the Rugby Union centre who became the youngest ever

0:57:050:57:08

-England captain at the age of 22?

-Will Carling.

-Correct.

0:57:080:57:11

Who, during his time in the army,

0:57:110:57:13

rose to the rank of second lieutenant of the Royal Regiment of Wales?

0:57:130:57:16

-Will Carling.

-Correct.

0:57:160:57:18

Whose team was criticised for

0:57:180:57:20

relying on their forwards and not passing the ball out to the backs?

0:57:200:57:23

-Will Carling.

-Correct.

0:57:230:57:25

Who, despite playing that way,

0:57:250:57:26

-led England to three Grand Slams in the '90s?

-Will Carling.

-Correct.

0:57:260:57:30

Who has a social networking page about him called Will Carling Fanclub

0:57:300:57:35

that has on it only three comments and was last updated in 2002?

0:57:350:57:38

Will Carling. Correct.

0:57:380:57:40

Who is the greatest...? BEEP

0:57:400:57:42

Sorry, I've started, so I'll finish.

0:57:420:57:44

-Who is the greatest England centre of all time?

-Jeremy Guscott.

-Correct.

0:57:440:57:48

And at the end of that round, Chris, you've scored six points,

0:57:480:57:52

and just like the four teams I used to captain in the '90s, no passes.

0:57:520:57:56

I think it's sad when someone laughs

0:57:560:57:58

at their own little pre-prepared jokes!

0:57:580:58:01

So that's it. We've reached the end of our stroll through some funny,

0:58:020:58:06

eclectic, and in the case of Korkey's Six Nations,

0:58:060:58:08

brilliant clips from the last 50 years of BBC Wales TV.

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I hope you enjoyed it.

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So, with the time approaching generic o'clock

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in case this programme gets repeated,

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it's good night from me, Chris Corcoran,

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and from all of us here

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at BBC Cymru Wales.

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Nos da.

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I'll leave you

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with a national anthem.

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# I saw the light on the night that I passed by her window... #

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