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-NEWSREEL: -Queen Elizabeth drives to her Coronation. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
At the Queen's Coronation in 1953, | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
the aristocracy of the kingdom assembled | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
and at the top of the pile were the dukes. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
Excluding the royal dukes, | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
titles given to the immediate family of monarchs, | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
there were then 28 non-royal dukes. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
At the sacred moment that the Queen was crowned, | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
they also were entitled to don their coronets. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
God save the Queen. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
God save the Queen. God save the Queen. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
And the trumpets sound. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:40 | |
TRUMPET FANFARE | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
Dukedoms are created by the monarch for reasons ranging from a grateful | 0:00:45 | 0:00:50 | |
nation rewarding a major war leader to a king acknowledging | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
his illegitimate son. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
The title then passing down the generations. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
I'm Duke of Atholl, Marquis of Tullibardine, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
Earl of Strathtay and Strathardle... | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
Viscount Balquhidder, Balvenie and Gask. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
Um, Lord Murray. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
Um, Thane of Glentilt | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
and... | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
I think I've missed one out, but there are a lot them. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
This is the list of my titles. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
Duke of Montrose, Marquess of Montrose, Marquess of Graham... | 0:01:25 | 0:01:31 | |
and Baron Graham of Belford. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
-You're all those? -Yeah. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
So, I'm the Duchess of Rutland, the 11th Duchess of Rutland | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
and this is my home, Belvoir Castle. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
If I'd been born a boy, I would have been my father's heir | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
and the 12th Duke of Leeds. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
-But you weren't? -But I wasn't. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
The last Dukedom to be created was by Queen Victoria in 1889 | 0:01:56 | 0:02:02 | |
and it is inconceivable that there will ever be any more. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
So, as they gradually become extinct, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
there are now only 24 non-royal dukes, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
what will become of those that remain? | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
Do they still have power and wealth? | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
What is it to be a duke in the 21st Century? | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
Dukedoms still own in excess of one million acres of Britain today. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
The classic image of a duke's stately pile is Blenheim Palace, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:43 | |
home to the Dukes of Marlborough for over 300 years. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
The Dukedom was created in 1702 for John Churchill, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:53 | |
a wily statesman and soldier, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:54 | |
who won a series of battles against the French. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
His greatest was the Battle of Blenheim. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
Until the Second World War, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
Blenheim Palace continued to run pretty much unchanged. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
Driving in today is someone who actually lived that | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
Downton Abbey life. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
She was born Lady Rosemary Spencer-Churchill, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
the daughter of the tenth Duke of Marlborough. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
No distant car park for her. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
When her father succeeded to the title, | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
Lady Rosemary was a lively five-year-old. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
Right, shall we go along here? | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
There were no pesky red ropes in those days. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
Yes, this I recollect very well because there used to be | 0:03:38 | 0:03:43 | |
a piano here | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
and we had to practice the piano. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
And there was a dagger under this picture of my grandfather, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:55 | |
my grandmother and my father. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
The dagger was there so that, if there was a fire, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
the pictures could be cut out of their frames very quickly | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
and thrown out of the window. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
Of course, this was fascinating for a child. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
Instead of playing the piano, I used to play with the dagger. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
Oh, I think it's still there behind the chair. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
I don't know if we're allowed to do this, but I think... | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
There it is, you see. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
It's a huge knife. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
It was just home, you know. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
You just happened to live here | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
and you didn't think it was really very extraordinary. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
When you were a child, how many servants were there? | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
Indoors there were 36, I think. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
All the footmen were very tall. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
My mother liked them to be six-foot tall. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
As the average height of a male in those days was about | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
5'3", they were quite difficult to come by, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
but they were all about six foot. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
Why did she like them so tall? | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
Well, I mean, in a house like this you didn't want | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
a lot of midgets walking about, did you? | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
You know, they didn't sort of look right. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
Everything's on a slant. I hate furniture on a slant. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
I don't know why people have to put it on the slant. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
-Would you rearrange it? -Yes, I would. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
I just hate things on a slant. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
Oh, these are the invitations to the Coronation. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:33 | |
'In early 1953, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
'Lady Rosemary was selected to become a Maid of Honour to the Queen.' | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
Presumably, your qualifications, Lady Rosemary, were | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
not only beauty and height, but being the daughter of a duke? | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
Yes, yes, I had a head start | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
cos there weren't any other duke's daughters. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
There was a marquess. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:53 | |
There was Jane Vane-Tempest-Stewart, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:58 | |
but otherwise they were mostly earls, I think. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
-Way below you? -Way below, yes. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
I believe one or two people were rather cross | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
and Cook told me, who shall be nameless, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
somebody was rather cross that her daughter hadn't been asked. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:17 | |
-NEWSREEL: -From the roaring of the multitude | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
into the quiet solemnity of the great Abbey steps Her Majesty. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
Ah, yes, there we are all going into the Abbey. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
I'm at the back on the right-hand side. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
I've never seen this before. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
There I am on the left. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
There's the dukes. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
My father would have been there but I don't know quite where. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
-Did you not discuss it with your parents? -No, not at all. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
-Did they say they saw you? -No. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
They obviously did because they would have been fairly up the top of | 0:06:54 | 0:06:59 | |
pile, so to speak, but, no, I don't think we discussed it really at all. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:06 | |
Do you find that odd? | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
No, I don't think one did find it odd. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
You didn't find it odd in those days cos you had | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
lots of sort of very grand things that happened all the time. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:22 | |
I never remember discussing it with my parents at all. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
Here we are on the balcony. It was amazing. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:31 | |
The others, I think, all went out around London afterwards, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
but I had to get home | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
because my mother was roasting an ox in the park for Woodstock. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:43 | |
There's my mother carving the ox. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
I'm there, cutting up the meat. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
That world has, in some ways, disappeared. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
Lady Rosemary's brother was duke for 42 years. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
His son succeeded to the title last year. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
But how are the other dukedoms faring? | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
Blair Castle is at the centre of a vast ducal estate | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
of over 140,000 acres in the Scottish Highlands. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
Assembling today is the only private army in Europe. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
The Duke of Atholl was given the right to possess such a thing | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
by Queen Victoria in 1844, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
and today the Atholl Highlanders regiment consists of around 100 men | 0:08:49 | 0:08:54 | |
made up of locals associated in some way with the ducal estates. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
Its commanding officer lives 6,000 miles away. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
My father actually had no intention | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
of accepting the role at all. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
He was going to be a... | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
He actually made official enquiries as to how he could get out of it | 0:09:11 | 0:09:16 | |
and the person that he consulted at the Lord Lions said you can | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
either commit a schedule one offence, or felony, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
and go to jail for the rest of your life, or die. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:27 | |
You can't abdicate being a duke. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
-This is the archive. -Wow, so what is here? | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
Well, this part at the top has the earliest documents. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
There's 40 trunks of land charters | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
giving the duke title to his estate | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
but the very oldest is in here. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
This one dates from 1180. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
The next one is from 1199. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
The main thing was to prove that you owned a bit of land | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
so, without a charter from the Crown, you had no proof. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
-These are the originals? -Absolutely. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
Of course. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
Family history matters. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
When the ninth duke died, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
there was a very convoluted route to his successor, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
a young man who was his fourth cousin twice removed. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
We have a very simplified family tree here. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
So you come down straight from the third duke, fourth, five, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, but they have no male heirs, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
so you have to find the next male heir working your way back, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
so this was a brother of the fourth duke. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
You come down to this line of Georges | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
until you get to the tenth duke here. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
The tenth duke had the perfect ducal image, as if from Central Casting. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
He was nearly six-and-a-half feet tall, talked in clipped sentences, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
ending each with that Victorian aristocratic tick, "What, what?" | 0:10:52 | 0:10:57 | |
A bachelor, he died in 1996, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
and the whole process of finding the next heir started again. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
And then to get to the present line of dukes, you don't | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
have to go quite so far back. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
Just to the great-grandfather of the tenth duke | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
and his brother again, and through the male line to the present duke. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
Your Grace, the Atholl Highlanders are formed up | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
and ready for your inspection, sir. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
Bruce Murray runs a little sign-making shop that he set up | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
many years ago in an obscure provincial town in South Africa. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
In 2012, Bruce and his second wife Charmaine found themselves becoming | 0:11:32 | 0:11:38 | |
the Duke and Duchess of Atholl, along with 12 subsidiary titles. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:43 | |
Being the Duke, he is automatically the Colonel in Chief | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
of the Atholl Highlanders. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
It's quite a responsibility. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
It's a very, very moving experience for me to parade for them. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:02 | |
I said to Charmaine, the duchess, the other day that I'm | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
so glad that I'm on my own there | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
because if I had to turn around and actually have to talk to | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
anybody else I wouldn't be capable of doing it. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
I've got a constant lump in my throat when I'm on parade. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
You know, I'm here because of an accident of birth and I didn't | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
actually do anything to deserve this huge privilege that I have. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
All of this that happened is done for me, basically, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:32 | |
and it's just a very, very overwhelming sensation | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
that I get to feel that. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
I haven't done anything to deserve it. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
The duke and duchess only see the family seat | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
on their brief trip over from South Africa once a year. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
This is the entrance hall and it's a collection of firearms | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
and weapons that the dukes have collected. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
Just this morning we were wondering how many of these weapons | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
have actually been used, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
and it's quite sinister, but it's a wonderful collection. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:07 | |
The trouble with grand estates is that, if not well managed, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
they can run out of money. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
In the 1930s, the elderly and childless brothers, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
the eighth and the ninth dukes were facing ruin. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
But, luckily, their distant cousin, the heir to the title, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
was about to marry a woman with a very rich grandmother. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
Her grandmother, old Lady Cowdray, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
realised that the estate was in financial problems | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
and the whole thing would probably be sold, so old Lady Cowdray stepped | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
in, paid off the bank debt, turned the whole thing into a company. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
She had the controlling shares. The deal was signed. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
She went to Paris for the weekend for a rest and dropped dead. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
My great-grandmother effectively bought the estate | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
and her condition of buying it was that the duke | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
and everybody continued to live here, but her advisors ran it | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
and they took a more business-like approach | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
and one aspect of that was opening the castle to visitors. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
So, by bringing in capital and a commercial approach, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
the rich old lady had ensured for her granddaughter that there | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
would be a suitable estate along with the title. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
The title stays with the male line, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
but the tenth duke's half-sister Sarah is the trustee and she and | 0:14:20 | 0:14:25 | |
her mother and her grandmother were the ones with the actual control. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
So the hereditary system does not mean that the males get the control. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
They might get the title, but, unless you're very bothered | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
about the title, it's running the estate that's more important. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
'Sarah Troughton, the Head Trustee, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
'is the half-sister of the tenth Duke.' | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
What do you think about the title only going through the male line? | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
Um...huge relief. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
I don't want to be a duchess. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
-Really? -Yes. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
I don't. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
I think it's a nice ceremonial thing these days, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
but it's not something... | 0:15:09 | 0:15:10 | |
I prefer to get on with the business side of things. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
Had you inherited the title in the past, you'd have lived in the castle. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
Do you ever think about that? | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
When I do think about that, the prospect of managing | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
an enterprise like this absolutely appals me. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
So, actually, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:27 | |
the way that it is now, I'm probably one of the luckiest dukes because I | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
have this massive enterprise that's there to allow me to be a duke. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
Well, this is a picture staircase showing a lot of my ancestors. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:41 | |
It's lovely to have this family tree. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
I can know more or less what they looked like. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
-Do you know who any of them are? -No. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
If I look carefully I might see John, the first Marquess of Atholl, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:54 | |
the chap in the very peculiar outfit. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
And this would be James, the second Duke of Atholl. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
Do you see any resemblance when you look in the mirror? | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
No, there's obviously a little bit of DNA in there somewhere, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
but I don't think I look like him. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
The Duke's sons, the Marquess of Tullibardine | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
and Lord David Murray, are officers in the Atholl Highlanders. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
We are soldiers though in a real army, so in theory, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
we could gather the men and go to war if we wanted to. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:29 | |
-Maybe not in this day and age. -I don't know how effective wed be! | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
Do you regret you're not in a position to live here? | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
It's a very difficult one to answer because obviously I'm African | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
and always will be but, honestly, no. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
I think it's quite special that we can have the African | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
side as well as the Scottish side, so we have the best of both worlds. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
The duke and his family play a symbolic role in all the rituals. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:01 | |
The heir and the spare pull down their socks | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
and get stuck in with the local fun. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
It's a bayonet. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
No longer a strictly military occasion, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
the duchess accompanies her husband. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
But, even at full speed, suitable respect is shown to the duke. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
Back home, she's simply Charmaine, | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
but here she's the duchess and does what duchesses do. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
Is it fun handing out the prizes like that? | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
It is fun and it's nice to know everybody. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
Are you able to enjoy it? | 0:17:50 | 0:17:51 | |
We do. We love it. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
That's why we come here very year. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
Yeah, we love it. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
I mean, I'm one of 24 people out of seven billion on the planet | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
with this responsibility to be a duke | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
and it's honourous. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
You can't be trained for it in my situation. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
Obviously, if you're born and bred into it, it's different, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
but nobody can teach you how to be a duke. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
This new South African line of long-distant Dukes of Atholl | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
came about because the dukedom can only go through male heirs. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
But when all male heirs run out, that is the end of the line. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
There are some books, a couple of books in here. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
So where does that leave Camilla Osborne, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
whose father was the Duke of Leeds, a dukedom now extinct? | 0:18:44 | 0:18:49 | |
The other rather grander book, which has got the title on the cover, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:55 | |
and I don't know which one it was for. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
And that's the family book plate. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
There's the coronet. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
She lives in a new-build close in south-west London, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:08 | |
but she still gets odd glimpses of the precedence at some dinner tables | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
that her status, as daughter of a duke, can give her. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
If I went to a lunch at Christie's, for example, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
they are extremely aware because the spend their days looking up dukes | 0:19:19 | 0:19:24 | |
and viscounts and everything else, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
so you will be put on the right of the Christie's Director. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:32 | |
I went to a lunch at Christie's and I was on the right | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
and there was a woman who was on the left, | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
who was visibly irritated because she was older, better looking, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:42 | |
better dressed, more jewels than me, | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
but she was on the left... | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
And she was irritated. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
Did that ever so slightly please you? | 0:19:53 | 0:19:54 | |
Yes, of course it did. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
Here, these pictures were taken by my father's father, | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
who was the tenth duke. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
The bathroom pays homage to the boyhood of her father. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
There he is sitting in a sort of rather charmingly battered | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
straw hat looking winsome and sad. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
And that is one with his mother. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
The Duchess had struggled to provide an heir. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
After four girls, finally she produced a boy. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
The arrival was celebrated with bonfires and fireworks. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
His title at birth was the Marquess of Carmarthen. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
The story of him being on a bus and the bus stopped | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
and he apparently said, "Nanny, Nanny, why aren't we moving?" | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
And she said, "Because there's a lot of traffic on the road, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
"you see, and we can't move, the bus can't move." | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
And he went, "Well, they wouldn't do this | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
"if they knew the little marquess was on board!" | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
And I suppose he was known as the little marquess. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:58 | |
The family seat was Hornby Castle in Yorkshire. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
Within a couple of years of succeeding to the title in 1927, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
the new young duke put the castle up for sale. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
With cash in the bank, he drifted round Europe, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
ending up on the French Riviera. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
This is a picture of his wedding to the Serbian ballet dancer. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
He got married in Nice. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
There is the bride, who's looking pretty satisfied. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
My father, who's looking understandably apprehensive | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
and nervous because there is his mother, who appears to be | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
wearing her gardening clothes and certainly a gardening hat. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
She is looking as if she can not really believe her only son | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
and heir is marrying the Serbian ballet dancer. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
The marriage to the Serbian ballerina ended | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
when she went off with an American millionaire. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
The Duke remarried and they had a daughter, Camilla. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
To avoid heavy English taxes, they moved to Jersey. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
He was probably bored, bad-tempered, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
miserable at being made to live there. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
My mother was much younger and she met and fell in love with | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
a young, good looking guards officer | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
who was in the Coldstream Guards | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
with the result that she left me and my father. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
My stepfather had to leave the army and apparently his commanding | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
officer said, "Well, Lawrence, this is jolly sad, isn't it? | 0:22:18 | 0:22:23 | |
"Chorus girls are one thing, but I'm afraid duchesses are quite another." | 0:22:23 | 0:22:28 | |
Within minutes, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
a young woman had got her tabs on the newly-available duke. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
She was terribly tall. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:36 | |
She was nearly six foot, so she was bloody frightening as well. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
Why do you think she married your father? | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
-Do you think the title? -Oh, yes. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
I think it had an enormous amount to do with it, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
but, looking back, she wanted to be a duchess. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
What do you think about your resemblance to him? | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
Oh, I love looking like him. I do, yes. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
Well, it's such a link, isn't it? | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
My stepmother, in her less-than-generous moments, | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
said it was a great shame that I looked so like him. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
I was 12 when he died. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
I was at boarding school and they summoned me back, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
but I wasn't allowed to say goodbye to him. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
I didn't see him before he died. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
There was a funeral, which I wasn't taken to | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
and she knew, under the terms of the trust, that she | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
couldn't inherit anything other than his personal possessions | 0:23:24 | 0:23:31 | |
and she was obsessive about money. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
But I remember her going on and on to her friend | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
and this friend saying, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:37 | |
"Oh, Caroline, I do think perhaps you could stop now | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
"because it's really not very nice for Camilla to listen to all this." | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
"Oh, well, SHE'LL be all right because SHE'S got the money!" | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
And I was, what, 13 or something at the time? | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
On her father's death, the title went to a distant cousin living in Rome - | 0:23:52 | 0:23:57 | |
Sir D'Arcy Osborne, a former British ambassador to the Vatican. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
He was in his 70s and a bachelor and, | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
when he died just six months later, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
the Dukedom of Leeds became extinct. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
My father, if he'd still had the place in Yorkshire, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
he'd have been like Bedford or Devonshire, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
or those that have got a purpose, which is what I'm trying to say. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
I think it gives you a purpose | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
and I think maybe that's why he wasn't a happy man | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
because he had absolutely no purpose in his life... | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
..except getting through the day | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
by going to the cinema or going to the tailor, | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
or having the third Pernod. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
That was his life actually. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
When Hornby was sold, the Coronation robes were under a bed, | 0:24:49 | 0:24:54 | |
so they were sold, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
but what remains are the three coronets. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
The Ducal Coronet, the Dutchess' Coronet and Marquess' Coronet. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:07 | |
And that, you see, there was, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
apparently you kept your sandwiches in there during the coronation. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:15 | |
You know, you were there for hours and hours and hours, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
so you would just have that on your, on your head. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
Actually, that feels quite comfortable. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
Rather suits you, I have to say! | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
I appreciate, enormously, what I've got. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
But I think maybe, like my father, if I hadn't had it I would have had a happier life, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
or a more fulfilled one. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
I mean, I've...when you read death announcements, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
don't you, you read them and it says, | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
"After a life well lived" or "after a fulfilled life" and sometimes in my more gloomy moments I think, | 0:25:44 | 0:25:51 | |
"Yes, I wouldn't say that." | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
-Really? -Not that I've been unhappy, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
but I just feel I've had | 0:25:56 | 0:25:57 | |
sort of the same slightly aimless life as my father did... | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
for different reasons. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
The Dukedom of Leeds had been created for a crafty Yorkshire politician, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
who had helped bring William and Mary to the throne in 1689. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
The Dukedom of St Albans was created for less elevated reasons. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
Simply, for the bastard son of King Charles II | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
and a celebrated actress, Nell Gwyn. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
The family seat for many years was Bestwood Lodge in Nottinghamshire, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:40 | |
but that is long gone. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:41 | |
The 14th Duke of St Albans and his duchess live in a terraced house | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
in a quiet street in central London. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
Um...well here's the tenth Duke | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
and he's the same chap as that. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
And he's the good duke, the tenth Duke. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
Was the last person to make a speech in the House Of Lords until I did. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:07 | |
-Oh, really? -127 years later. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
And that is our coronet. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
-Do you still have the coronet? -Yes, male and female. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
And the robes, we have the coronation robes. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
-Oh, really, where are they? -Up in the attic. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
We'll talk about those later! | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
The coronets, aren't they in your study? | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
-Are they? -Yes. -Oh, well. -Yeah. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
-That'll be, that'll be, that'll be your one. -I think that is, actually | 0:27:31 | 0:27:36 | |
It's the red one because it's the original box | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
and it's very, very fragile. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
Ah, now this is Murray's one. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
I think they are rather lovely. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
That's Murray's. You hold yours, Murray, | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
and I'll just get out my one... | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
which I think is just so pretty! | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
Those are the original pins, which would be, say, 1680? | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
So you see those? That's what's so brilliantly clever. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
Those are the pins you would put in on in your hair, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
and that would keep - which the Queen obviously does. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
So what I'd do is, I'd do that. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
Second... | 0:28:12 | 0:28:13 | |
And I'm pressing it into my skull. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
And I do that and then... | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
I'm pressing it in like that and, of course, that is amazing | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
because that's it. Look. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
-We have had no reason... -Never. -..never, ever to wear it | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
any more than we have had any reason to wear the robes. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
And actually, in fact, the... | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
-I wore the robes for the portrait. -For the portrait, right. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:41 | |
And how should one address you? | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
-Well, there... That's quite... -Your Grace. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
It should be Your Grace. Quite a, a few people do, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
quite a few of the restaurants call me Your Grace, | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
quite a few. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
But then, on the other hand, you also get people that, that don't. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
And so that's... We're very, totally relaxed, actually. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:03 | |
But do you quite like it? | 0:29:05 | 0:29:06 | |
Well I, I, to be honest with you, I do actually like formality, | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
but I've always liked formality regardless. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
I don't like Christian names, for instance, terribly. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
So it wouldn't suit me to be... I don't like being called Gillian, | 0:29:17 | 0:29:21 | |
actually, particularly by people I don't know. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:25 | |
-But that's only just me, really! -So what should I call you? | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
Well, you can call me Gillian if you like! | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:29:32 | 0:29:33 | |
-That's very generous! -No, not at all! | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
But if, on my first meeting you, what should I have called you? | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
What did I call you? I think I avoided it. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
I think you avoided it, which I think is a very sensible thing to do. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
I think I often avoid things I don't want to get involved with | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
and then I don't hurt anybody's feelings or, or, | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
be on any, any problems about it. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
So I think I would have done the same. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
So, for example, when you're booking an aeroplane ticket... | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
Oh, that's an issue. As they say, they can't put in Duke Of, Duchess Of, because it won't fit in | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
to their computers, which is what we're always being told, | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
so we go under Mr and Mrs St Albans. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:11 | |
Fine, we don't mind. Because actually, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
we're not the kind that would want to necessarily | 0:30:14 | 0:30:19 | |
throw in a title just because we want a better seat or whatever. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
You know, some people do that, but we don't. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
But anyway, there you go. Terribly pretty, isn't it? | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
-Very, very. -Yeah. -Now, I'm afraid, having mentioned your robes, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
we have to see the robes. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
Where are they? Are they next door? | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
-Oh, well. -In the attic. -In the attic? | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
-That really is an ordeal. -Is it? -Well, I'll take, no, no, no, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
you're not going into the attic. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
That's banned because that's where everything but the kitchen sink is. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:48 | |
-For health and safety, too. -For health and safety. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
-Luth? -Hi. -We need you, Luth. -OK. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
If you would like to come up with me, Luth. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
-(I'm doing ironing.) -I know. Well, don't worry. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
We can just put the ironing board to the side, Luth, for a second. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
-Sorry! -No, that doesn't matter. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
No, no, don't worry. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:05 | |
We'll just take that down for a minute. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
This would be easier in here, actually. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
-Can we let Luth through? Yeah. -Yeah. -Ah, that's easier, yeah. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
It really is because Murray's is... | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
..terribly heavy and in his, well, look, you see? | 0:31:19 | 0:31:24 | |
In his case, very, very frail. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
-Thatch. -It seems to be moulting a little bit. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
It is, it's moulted tremendously. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
As long as the moths haven't got in it. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
The ermine is looking very unhappy. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
-It is rather, isn't it? -Fortunately this is OK, this one. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:47 | |
It's so, it is beautifully made. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
-That's lace from... -16-whatever. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
So this is the original. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
-Look. -Shall I take it now? -Yeah, why don't you? | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
You take it, Michael, and you can... | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
Look, I think that is... That is what is really lovely, I think. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:08 | |
Was there a bit of ermine shawl under that...? | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
That, yes, that. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:12 | |
This, it's a spare. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
It's... No, it isn't, it clips on... to here, actually. Look, Murray. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:21 | |
In fact... | 0:32:21 | 0:32:22 | |
Well done, you, for spotting that. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
-We'll have it like that... -That's nice. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:27 | |
..because I think that's the ideal thing to do. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
Look at it, it's simply beautiful. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
How did you meet Murray and what was your attitude to his title? | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
Oh, well, first of all, I met Murray at a dinner party. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:41 | |
As far as his title went, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
I think it's a charming title, actually. I think it's a particularly pretty one. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
But actually, my daughter's godfather | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
was the Duke Of Manchester | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
and I have known quite a few, so it wasn't as if | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
it really was at all, a sort of, | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
anything out of the ordinary, as it were. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
You're definitely out of the ordinary, you're very, very special, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:08 | |
but not the title, particularly. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
What have we got here? | 0:33:11 | 0:33:12 | |
Well, we have me here, in my coronation robes, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
and a falcon. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
-Cor, a live falcon? -No, stuffed, I'm afraid. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
I'm the hereditary Grand Falconer of England. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
Hereditary Grant Falconer? What does that mean? | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
It means nothing now, it used to have a salary of £1,000 a year. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
-Really? -Yes, at one time. Up to a few years ago, | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
one used to get a quarter of a dear twice a year... | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
from Richmond Park, but that was stopped by Tony Blair. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:42 | |
On the grounds of economy. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:44 | |
-What did you think of that? -It was a pretty poor show. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
The Archbishop of Canterbury used to get it as well, and one or two other people. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:52 | |
Murray, did your ancestors leave you a vast, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
stately mansion and huge wealth? | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
No... | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
They didn't... | 0:33:59 | 0:34:00 | |
Unfortunately! | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
-So can I ask, what you...? Have you worked for a living? -Yes, I have. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:09 | |
-Doing what? -I am a chartered accountant. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
This has got a... | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
'The Duke's son and heir is Charles Beauclerk, | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
'who used to use his courtesy title of the Earl of Burford, | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
'but now chooses not to.' | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
That is one of the Dukes. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
He is a teacher and part-time historian, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
and takes rather more interest than his dad in the family's history. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
That's the ninth as a boy, so obviously the father of the tenth. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:38 | |
I mean, do you feel a connection to these ancestors? | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
-Not particularly, really. I don't. -Really? | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
But I'm probably exceptional in that. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
-I think Charles does more, don't you? -I'm sure he does. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
To some of them, yes. Obviously some are obscure and just pictures | 0:34:52 | 0:34:57 | |
and so on, and they don't really come alive in your mind. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
Um, others do, and I think... | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
obviously we're fortunate in being aware of the story of our family | 0:35:02 | 0:35:07 | |
in a way that a lot of people aren't, | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
and therefore I think you can choose the way in which you become part of that story. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:14 | |
We are all actors in it. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:15 | |
One day Charles will be the Duke of St Albans. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
It is often thought that any man in possession of a grand title | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
must not be in want of a large stately, | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
but that is no longer the case for this Dukedom. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
Charles, though, is fascinated by Bestwood Lodge, | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
the pile that in other circumstances he might have inherited. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
It is now a Best Western hotel. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
Yes, this is Bestwood Lodge, | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
which was built between 1862 and 1865 by the 10th Duke of St Albans. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:49 | |
There is a lot of fancy to it. You have the figures of Robin Hood and his Merry Men over the porch there. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:54 | |
It was described at the time as "acrobatic gothic", | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
which I think is a pretty good description. | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
Charles and his girlfriend Sarah are hoping to put on plays here... | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
..and have been delving into its traumatic family history. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
The 10th Duke, a talented entrepreneur, | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
made a fortune and with three sons he thought he'd set up the family for generations to come. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:19 | |
But within months of his death, | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
it all started to unravel. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
His son and heir, Burford, as he was called, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
three months after he succeeded, | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
he was certified, confined to an asylum is Sussex, and that's where | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
he spent the last 36 years of his life. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
Then the youngest brother, Lord William Beauclerk, | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
also proved mad and, just after leaving Eton, | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
he was sent to the priory, Roehampton. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
He was there for 52 years, completely forgotten by everyone. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:51 | |
And the middle brother, Obbie, who became the 12th Duke, | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
was a restless soul who wandered round the world | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
and I think he became quite an embittered man. | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
And that's what fascinates me. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
Why, what created this mental illness? Was it partly societal? | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
Were they sensitive souls who couldn't | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
harness themselves to the whole imperial design? | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
Or was it something more personal, something in the way they'd been brought up? | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
It's like a kind of haunting, passed down from generation to generation, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
so I think the key is to become conscious of them | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
and then that demon is purged for future generations. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:29 | |
One of the reasons I gave up the title in the first place is because | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
people's perceptions of you can actually create a sort of straight jacket. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:38 | |
It often attracts people who just want to know you because they are | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
snobs and therefore you can fall into the wrong company very easily. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
I think much better just to be Mr Beauclerk, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
go about your business and... | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
But yes, if I felt I could use it in a... | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
a powerful and creative fashion then I would. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
If Charles doesn't take up the title, | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
this might be the last practical incarnation of it. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
The Dukedom of Rutland was created as the result of a very pushy mother | 0:38:17 | 0:38:22 | |
who demanded of Queen Anne that her late husband's military heroism be rewarded, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:28 | |
making her son-in-law a Duke. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
This tradition of strong women has continued. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
I remember very well the feeling of driving up here to Belvoir Castle | 0:38:41 | 0:38:47 | |
in my rather beaten up old Fiat, | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
and having to stop and take my breath back for a moment, | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
and seeing this extraordinary castle | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
and thinking, "Phew, I'm going to stay there!" | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
The building itself is so imposing it takes people's breath away. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
Emma Watkins was a farmer's daughter from Wales | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
when she met the then Marquess of Granby, | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
heir to Duke of Rutland, owner of Belvoir Castle, at a dinner party. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:22 | |
Within a couple of years they married and she became the marchioness. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:28 | |
When her father-in-law died her title changed. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:33 | |
The upgrade to Duchess, how much of a difference did that make? | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
To me? Um, well, it makes a difference to others | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
because they perceive you as a duchess and, suddenly, | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
you know... To many people, bearing in mind there are so few of us in the country, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
it is all quite... "Oh, a duchess!" | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
You know, she might be sitting up in an ivory tower with | 0:39:51 | 0:39:55 | |
a sort of crown on, and quite old and quite scary. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
We are in our private rooms here and these are the rooms that | 0:40:00 | 0:40:05 | |
are not open to the public 24-7, | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
and so they are areas where we can have some space. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:13 | |
And out here is our private terrace. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
It is, I suppose it is our back garden in a sense. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
And as you can see, we've got our swings | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
and our dog kennel, our five dogs. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
In marrying Emma, the Duke found someone with whom to start a family, | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
who also turned out to be a determined and energetic estate manager. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:38 | |
But three years ago the marriage ran into difficulties. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
With over 300 rooms at their disposal, | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
they came up with a relatively simple solution. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
He lives in one tower and delves into the family archives, | 0:40:48 | 0:40:53 | |
she lives in another tower and, as chief executive, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
runs the place. | 0:40:57 | 0:40:58 | |
Morning! | 0:40:58 | 0:40:59 | |
Morning, everyone. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
7:30am, and the senior staff assemble for Her Grace's weekly meeting. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
-Debbie? -Good morning, Your Grace. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
We've got...four sign-ups in the next two weeks. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:11 | |
It's a bit like when the King dies, long live the King. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
When the Duke dies, long live the Duke. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
And there was an amazing moment that will remain with me forever, | 0:41:17 | 0:41:21 | |
when my mother-in-law, there was a large, black tin of keys, | 0:41:21 | 0:41:26 | |
enormous great keys, | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
and she handed me the box and said, "Good luck." | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
But, actually, what we've got to do is address where it fell down. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
'And so I spent the week and there wasn't one room' | 0:41:34 | 0:41:38 | |
that I hadn't managed to get into, | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
so...you have to kind of know what it is that you're taking over. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:45 | |
I'm now going up on to the roof. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
I'm meeting our architect. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
And, in a moment, you're going to see why it's called Belvoir. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
Beautiful castle. Beautiful view. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
They were Norman-French, the Manners family, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
and they couldn't really pronounce "Beaver," | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
so they called it Belvoir because of the beautiful view. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:11 | |
Let's go and see what my architect has done here. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
Peter? | 0:42:16 | 0:42:17 | |
Oh! | 0:42:19 | 0:42:20 | |
I'm on a different roof to you! | 0:42:22 | 0:42:23 | |
So how do I get out to that one? | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
-You come up the spiral stair, obviously... -Yeah. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
..across and through, middle king's room. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
Middle king's room. I'll be with you in two minutes. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
Pop down here and find the right roof! | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
Hi, Peter! | 0:42:40 | 0:42:41 | |
-Where it bubbles... -That's right. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
That's all the corrosion building up underneath. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
So what problems does that create underneath? | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
-It just makes the lead thin. -Right. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
-How old is this lead? -It's as old as the building, | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
getting on for 200 years. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:56 | |
There's a little mark here, 1883? | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
-Wow. -You can see what it is, a little man riding a penny farthing. -Yeah. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
So what sort of price are we talking about to have this re-leaded? | 0:43:04 | 0:43:09 | |
It would use up an entire year's budget. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
So about 100,000. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
And that's just one section of the two acres of roof. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:19 | |
Looking after the future extends beyond mere buildings, of course. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
The duchess took her duties seriously and, | 0:43:27 | 0:43:30 | |
after three daughters, produced two sons. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:34 | |
Well, obviously it's very important that you have a boy | 0:43:34 | 0:43:38 | |
because boys carry the title. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:40 | |
And everything is entailed here at Belvoir, | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
so everything goes with the title. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:45 | |
There is definitely a feeling that I better have this boy! | 0:43:45 | 0:43:50 | |
The one that struggled most probably was darling Hugo, | 0:43:50 | 0:43:54 | |
who, at four and a half, said, | 0:43:54 | 0:43:56 | |
"Mum, when Charles dies, do I become the Duke?" | 0:43:56 | 0:43:59 | |
I said, "Charles isn't going to die and you will never be the Duke." | 0:43:59 | 0:44:03 | |
But he sort of gets it now. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:05 | |
I think, as long as you're very, very clear with children | 0:44:05 | 0:44:10 | |
from the outset about how it works, | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
there's no confusion. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:14 | |
In the magnificent Elizabeth Saloon, | 0:44:16 | 0:44:18 | |
there's a photoshoot for Country And Townhouse magazine. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
Because it's black, you won't notice... | 0:44:21 | 0:44:24 | |
The bulges. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:26 | |
The 21st century duchess is conscious of the need to market the place. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:30 | |
And with its Midlands location, | 0:44:30 | 0:44:32 | |
she especially targets the lucrative Asian wedding business. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:37 | |
There is, after all, a certain Bollywood, over-the-top quality to the decor. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:41 | |
Look across, out the window. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:43 | |
Today, selling it as a family home, are all the female members. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:48 | |
You look gorgeous! | 0:44:48 | 0:44:49 | |
As daughters of the Duke, they take the courtesy title of Lady, along with the family name. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:54 | |
Lady Violet, | 0:44:54 | 0:44:56 | |
Lady Alice | 0:44:56 | 0:44:57 | |
and Lady Eliza Manners. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
Do you ever think, as the oldest, about not being able to inherit? | 0:45:00 | 0:45:04 | |
I wouldn't want to break tradition, actually. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:07 | |
I think, for me, personally... | 0:45:07 | 0:45:09 | |
I think in years to come, I think it will be welcomed, and I think | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
it should happen, that the eldest should be allowed to inherit. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
But I'm quite happy that it hasn't changed, for me. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:18 | |
My brother, I think, he's got broad shoulders | 0:45:18 | 0:45:20 | |
and he'll be able to carry the weight properly, I think. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:22 | |
So, genuinely, no tinge of...? | 0:45:22 | 0:45:24 | |
No tinge, not at all. I mean, I really... | 0:45:24 | 0:45:27 | |
I have been asked a lot and I just... | 0:45:27 | 0:45:29 | |
I really, really am just so lucky to have been able to enjoy it. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:33 | |
THEY TALK | 0:45:33 | 0:45:34 | |
Did you play in this room when you were a kid? | 0:45:35 | 0:45:39 | |
-Yeah, definitely. This was our... -Yeah. -This was our... | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
The Halloween party special, this room was for. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:44 | |
Yeah, Halloween parties. We... | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
And we came up with the most amazing game called Runner. | 0:45:46 | 0:45:49 | |
So it was literally... There was no structure to it, you would just | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
chase each other around until you caught each other | 0:45:52 | 0:45:54 | |
-or found each other... -THEY LAUGH | 0:45:54 | 0:45:56 | |
..or someone got really lost. | 0:45:56 | 0:45:58 | |
For inheritance tax reasons, | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
the castle has to be open for a certain number of days. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
We renegotiated with the Government, | 0:46:04 | 0:46:06 | |
we looked at reducing our days that we're open to the public. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:10 | |
I took the business right back to its roots, really. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:15 | |
The duchess got the open visitor days down to around 30 a year | 0:46:15 | 0:46:19 | |
and replaced them with high income, upmarket shooting parties. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:23 | |
I looked at bringing people in to come and shoot here | 0:46:23 | 0:46:26 | |
from all over the world, to come and stay in the castle, | 0:46:26 | 0:46:29 | |
to be waited on and looked after, | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
as they had been 200 years ago. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
In the 15 years since she took over, | 0:46:35 | 0:46:37 | |
the duchess has transformed the 16,000-acre estate. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:41 | |
She got rid of large numbers of employees and reordered priorities. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:45 | |
I think, Nick, your family have been here for how many generations? | 0:46:47 | 0:46:51 | |
Hundreds of years. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:52 | |
I mean, it's the best part of 50 years I've been on this estate, | 0:46:52 | 0:46:55 | |
on and off, and I've just seen a total change. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
What happened to it? | 0:46:58 | 0:47:00 | |
-Well... -I made them all redundant! -SHE LAUGHS | 0:47:00 | 0:47:02 | |
Well, I don't know about that. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:03 | |
Well, I did. It wasn't that anyone was wrong, it was just, | 0:47:03 | 0:47:08 | |
for me, it was just that people became accustomed | 0:47:08 | 0:47:11 | |
to it the way it was and... | 0:47:11 | 0:47:15 | |
So what did you do? | 0:47:15 | 0:47:16 | |
So I made a lot of people redundant. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
It's brought this place back to being a properly run estate. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:23 | |
I bet it was controversial. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:24 | |
Yeah, it was controversial. Yeah, definitely. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
But change is going to be controversial. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:28 | |
The old seat of power for the aristocracy was the House of Lords. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:46 | |
Tony Blair's government managed to abolish all but 92 hereditary peers. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:51 | |
Amongst them, there are only three dukes. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:54 | |
The Duke of Montrose is a former Conservative Shadow Minister | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
for Scotland in the Lords. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:00 | |
I'm going down the corridor towards the House of Commons, | 0:48:03 | 0:48:07 | |
where the pictures are all to do with the time of the Civil War | 0:48:07 | 0:48:10 | |
and this picture here is a picture of my ancestor's execution, | 0:48:10 | 0:48:16 | |
which took place in 1650. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:18 | |
The Duke's most famous ancestor, the first Marquess of Montrose, | 0:48:19 | 0:48:23 | |
led the army for Scotland | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
and then switched allegiance to the English throne. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:29 | |
But he was finally defeated and captured and taken to Edinburgh, | 0:48:29 | 0:48:34 | |
where he was hung for three hours off a gibbet | 0:48:34 | 0:48:38 | |
and then cut down and dismembered, and his limbs sent and hung | 0:48:38 | 0:48:42 | |
on the gates of all the main cities of Scotland. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:45 | |
I mean, our family has been involved in most of the events that have | 0:48:46 | 0:48:51 | |
defined Scotland and its battles with England, one way or another. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:55 | |
We then go on to the fourth marquess, | 0:48:55 | 0:48:58 | |
who, as president of the Council, he supervised the signing | 0:48:58 | 0:49:03 | |
of the Act of Union and that's his picture there. | 0:49:03 | 0:49:07 | |
As he had been instrumental in getting Scotland to join with England | 0:49:07 | 0:49:11 | |
in the Act of Union, a grateful king created for him a dukedom | 0:49:11 | 0:49:16 | |
and the fourth marquess became the first Duke of Montrose. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:20 | |
And then you get my grandfather... | 0:49:22 | 0:49:24 | |
..who's the sixth duke. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:27 | |
He joined in in the early stages of the Scottish National Party, | 0:49:27 | 0:49:33 | |
when what they were looking for is pretty much what we've got now, | 0:49:33 | 0:49:37 | |
which is a devolved assembly within Scotland. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:41 | |
As well as his duties in the House of Lords, | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
the duke is a working hill farmer. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
What have you seen? | 0:49:48 | 0:49:49 | |
-A sheep on its back. -SHEEP BLEAT | 0:49:49 | 0:49:51 | |
I hope it's not dead. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:52 | |
It's still heavy in lamb. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:55 | |
SHEEP BLEAT | 0:49:55 | 0:49:56 | |
HE PANTS | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
Well, that was well-caught. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:09 | |
She'll be better off that way round. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:12 | |
Do you sometimes get the sort of sycophancy? | 0:50:12 | 0:50:16 | |
It would be very rare, I would say. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
Erm, it might be different in some areas... | 0:50:19 | 0:50:23 | |
..where there are still people who can afford to be very grand, | 0:50:24 | 0:50:28 | |
but I think sycophancy mainly comes to people who are very rich. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:32 | |
When they were very rich, their stately pile was | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
built in the Victorian era by his great-great-grandfather. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:42 | |
They had the idea that life would go on in a very grand style, | 0:50:42 | 0:50:47 | |
but, of course, it belonged to a lifestyle, | 0:50:47 | 0:50:49 | |
which was about to just vanish away. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:53 | |
Today, Montrose lives in a more modest 1930s house, | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
stuffed with mementos of the family's thousand-year history. | 0:50:56 | 0:51:00 | |
These are the socks and the hat he wore at his execution. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:05 | |
And then this cloth here was supposed to be | 0:51:07 | 0:51:09 | |
where his heart was wrapped. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:11 | |
'As with so many bits of history, one is charged with' | 0:51:12 | 0:51:16 | |
keeping something alive | 0:51:16 | 0:51:18 | |
for other people to appreciate and understand. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
BIG BEN TOLLS | 0:51:23 | 0:51:26 | |
-So it's... -Do you want me to be your valet? | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
-Er...it's... -HE LAUGHS | 0:51:34 | 0:51:36 | |
These are my robes for the opening ceremony of Parliament. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
Dukes are allowed to have four bands of ermine | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
that go right around the body, like that. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:49 | |
If I was an earl, I would have three bars | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
and, if I were just a baron, I would have two bars. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:56 | |
-Yeah. -At some point, there will be a new monarch. Will you attend? | 0:51:56 | 0:51:59 | |
One would have to wait to be invited. I don't know that... | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
..what the protocol will be | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
by the time there is a successor to the Queen. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:09 | |
We may find that dukes are no longer in the House of Lords at all | 0:52:09 | 0:52:13 | |
by that time and probably not considered to be | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
very important people. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:18 | |
As the last vestiges of their constitutional power fade, | 0:52:22 | 0:52:26 | |
how will dukedoms with a real sense of grandeur | 0:52:26 | 0:52:29 | |
survive in the centuries to come? | 0:52:29 | 0:52:31 | |
This year, Blenheim Palace will have 700,000 paying visitors | 0:52:37 | 0:52:42 | |
tramping through its very grand doors. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:45 | |
James, formerly the Marquess of Blandford, | 0:52:47 | 0:52:49 | |
only recently became the 12th Duke of Marlborough. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:53 | |
He had a sticky time in his early life. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:56 | |
A publicly documented drug addiction | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
and a passion for fast cars hardly prepared him | 0:52:58 | 0:53:01 | |
for the now professional business of running such a vast estate. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:05 | |
Today, he will open a vintage car event. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:08 | |
THEY TALK | 0:53:08 | 0:53:09 | |
Hey, Caspar, come on! | 0:53:09 | 0:53:11 | |
-How are you? -That's Andrew, do you know what he does? | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
He organises the whole event. | 0:53:14 | 0:53:16 | |
Which one would you drive? | 0:53:16 | 0:53:18 | |
-Your daddy drove that about a month ago... -Yeah! | 0:53:18 | 0:53:21 | |
..all the way around the palace grounds. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:22 | |
-Well done. -Sir, it's a pleasure, you allowing us into your home, | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
-it really is. -Don't be silly! | 0:53:25 | 0:53:26 | |
It's an honour having you here, it really is. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:30 | |
The Duke's sister is Lady Henrietta Spencer-Churchill. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:33 | |
-Hello. -Ah, hello. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:34 | |
Their father was the last duke | 0:53:34 | 0:53:35 | |
to live full-time in the private quarters. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
So this is the butler's pantry. This is, again, on the private side. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:41 | |
You'll get your bearings in a minute, | 0:53:41 | 0:53:43 | |
but, if you went through that door, | 0:53:43 | 0:53:45 | |
you would end up on the public side. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:48 | |
So what's here? What are we looking at? | 0:53:48 | 0:53:50 | |
This is our bar. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:52 | |
You know, when we have guests, this is where either they | 0:53:52 | 0:53:55 | |
help themselves to drink or the butler helps them to drinks. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:59 | |
Erm...faux books. In here, there's a... | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
behind-the-scenes. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:04 | |
The cupboards. And then this, this is a sort of service staircase, | 0:54:04 | 0:54:08 | |
which goes all the way up. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:09 | |
-Can we just have a peek? -You definitely can. You can. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:11 | |
Not very interesting, but... Erm... | 0:54:11 | 0:54:14 | |
So that goes down to the basement level and the lower ground, | 0:54:16 | 0:54:20 | |
and then, actually, if you go all the way up, | 0:54:20 | 0:54:22 | |
you can get into one of the towers. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:24 | |
Which, of course, is where we spent a lot of time as children, | 0:54:24 | 0:54:27 | |
because it was much more fun going to all the places | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
you weren't supposed to be. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:31 | |
Well, this is the family dining room. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:33 | |
As you see at the moment, the table is set for eight people. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:37 | |
If it's just en famille, | 0:54:37 | 0:54:39 | |
we actually have a round table or just a small table | 0:54:39 | 0:54:42 | |
in the bow part of the window here. | 0:54:42 | 0:54:44 | |
The family sitting room. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:47 | |
So it's really our telly room, too. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:50 | |
It's actually, as you can see, very cosy, | 0:54:50 | 0:54:52 | |
although probably fairly large proportions. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:56 | |
As early as the late 19th century, | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
the financing of an estate like this became a huge issue. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:02 | |
In the case of Marlborough, there was then a relatively simple solution. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:06 | |
The ninth duke was very much told | 0:55:07 | 0:55:10 | |
-he had to... -SHE LAUGHS | 0:55:10 | 0:55:12 | |
..marry an American heiress. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:13 | |
It was, as you know, very much an arranged marriage | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
between Consuelo Vanderbilt, who came with a large dowry, | 0:55:15 | 0:55:18 | |
and it's really thanks to her and the Vanderbilt money | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
that the house is in such good shape today. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:25 | |
He sort of, I think, bit the bullet and said, "Right, I've got to... | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
"not necessarily marry for love, but for the love of Blenheim." | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
And they duly got married, produced the heir and the spare, | 0:55:31 | 0:55:33 | |
as she always referred to her two sons | 0:55:33 | 0:55:36 | |
and, you know, it wasn't a particularly happy marriage. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
In a funny way, it's probably easier today to make it work | 0:55:39 | 0:55:42 | |
than it would have been in the past. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:43 | |
-Why? -Because it's run like a business, | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
so we have a lot more opportunities, you know, to... | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
..make money in order to keep the upkeep of the house. | 0:55:50 | 0:55:54 | |
Whereas before, you were perhaps relying just on | 0:55:54 | 0:55:58 | |
farming or, you know, investments. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:01 | |
-Now, it's actually... -Or American millionairesses? | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
Or American... Exactly, yes. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:05 | |
Well, we might have another one of those, you never know. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:08 | |
It might be China or somewhere next time. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
James has slotted into the role. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:12 | |
Things are, really, carrying on just as normal. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
My lords, ladies and gentlemen, it's my very great pleasure, | 0:56:15 | 0:56:19 | |
on behalf of my wife and my family, to welcome you all here today | 0:56:19 | 0:56:23 | |
for this inaugural event at Blenheim. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:27 | |
The Duke presents the public face of Blenheim, | 0:56:27 | 0:56:30 | |
now owned by a trust and run by a professional team. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:33 | |
Well, I was very fortunate to be appointed, | 0:56:34 | 0:56:37 | |
in early 2003, as the first Chief Executive of Blenheim. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:39 | |
And that was, really, | 0:56:39 | 0:56:40 | |
the duke at the time and the trustees deciding that this | 0:56:40 | 0:56:44 | |
was the time to really commercialise the business | 0:56:44 | 0:56:46 | |
and to really get to grips with everything Blenheim had to offer | 0:56:46 | 0:56:48 | |
and really drive the business forward. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:50 | |
How does it work hierarchically? | 0:56:50 | 0:56:52 | |
Who's in charge? | 0:56:52 | 0:56:54 | |
Well, obviously, the Duke is resident in the palace, | 0:56:54 | 0:56:56 | |
it's very much the home of the duke, home of the dukes of Marlborough, | 0:56:56 | 0:56:59 | |
currently the 12th Duke of Marlborough. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:01 | |
I report into a board of trustees, who work very closely with | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
the duke, so, really, above the duke and above me is a board of trustees. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:08 | |
My operation as director! | 0:57:08 | 0:57:11 | |
Have you ever seen the palace from above? | 0:57:11 | 0:57:13 | |
Only when I went up and regilded the balls on the top. | 0:57:13 | 0:57:16 | |
Did you? HE LAUGHS | 0:57:16 | 0:57:18 | |
Was that fun? | 0:57:18 | 0:57:20 | |
-Yeah, hard work. -LAUGHTER | 0:57:20 | 0:57:21 | |
-Is it gold? -Yeah, gold leaf. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:24 | |
Well, if you put gold paint, it comes off every year. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:27 | |
When did you do that? Were you the duke or was it before? | 0:57:30 | 0:57:34 | |
No, no, no. Heather, when was it? It was... | 0:57:34 | 0:57:36 | |
-it was over 20 years ago. -Yep, yep. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:39 | |
-I'm going inside. Thank you very much. -Thank you. Bye-bye. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:43 | |
What do you think of the hereditary principle? | 0:57:45 | 0:57:48 | |
I think it's part of our DNA, I think it's part of the heritage. | 0:57:48 | 0:57:52 | |
I think it's what makes us special. | 0:57:52 | 0:57:54 | |
We're the envy of the world because of places like Blenheim, | 0:57:54 | 0:57:56 | |
and the heritage and the private historic houses are utterly unique. | 0:57:56 | 0:58:00 | |
But I think the real jewels are the ones that are in private ownership | 0:58:00 | 0:58:03 | |
because, there, you've got the love and the sweat | 0:58:03 | 0:58:06 | |
and the dedication of the family, over generations, | 0:58:06 | 0:58:09 | |
to keep their end up, if you like, | 0:58:09 | 0:58:12 | |
because no incumbent wants to be the incumbent that doesn't hand on | 0:58:12 | 0:58:15 | |
in a better condition than they received it in. | 0:58:15 | 0:58:18 | |
In the 21st century, dukes may be a dying breed, | 0:58:20 | 0:58:24 | |
but splendid heritage or privileged anachronism, their survival is | 0:58:24 | 0:58:29 | |
sure to be a magnificent struggle for generations to come. | 0:58:29 | 0:58:33 |