The Truth About Child Sex Abuse


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This programme contains scenes which some viewers may find upsetting.

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Today the Children's Commissioner has produced

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the most authoritative report yet of abuse in or around the family,

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where most child abuse occurs. Its results are horrifying.

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Tonight, we look at all the latest research to reveal

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the reality of a crime that seems to be out of control.

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Setting aside terrorism,

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it's the greatest challenge the police service faces this century.

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I'm a clinical psychologist.

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Listening to survivors of abuse

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exposes the sheer scale of the problem we face.

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I honestly thought it was something that happens in families,

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but no-one talks about.

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I thought every child... that happened to at night.

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I'm an investigative journalist.

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I've explored many high-profile cases of child sex abuse.

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Tonight, we focus on the hidden crimes against children of all ages.

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The abuse is anything that you can imagine -

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the majority in a family setting, in a family home.

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Maybe 10-12% of the adult population of the UK

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have occasional, if not frequent, sexual thoughts

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involving teenage children.

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We'll be using our different skills and the shocking new statistics

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to strip away the myths and to answer the key questions.

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How common is child sex abuse?

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How much goes unreported?

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Where and when does it happen? Who are the abusers?

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And, most of all, how can they be stopped?

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Good afternoon and welcome to the BBC News At One -

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the mother of the missing five-year-old April Jones

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broke down in tears as she made an emotional plea this lunchtime.

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We are desperate for any news.

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April is only five years old.

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Please, please help find her.

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On 1st October 2012,

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five-year-old April Jones was abducted and murdered.

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It's like...

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How do you feel when your child is murdered?

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You've got to live the rest of your life

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knowing that you let your child out to play.

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Local man Mark Bridger took April

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as she played outside her home in mid-Wales.

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He was jailed for life.

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Now April's parents campaign

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for greater understanding of child sex abuse.

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When it happened with April, I wanted everybody locked away,

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killed, hung, you name it.

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But all you are doing then is locking everybody away

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that has done it - but if you can stop them

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before they do it, it's a lot safer for children and parents.

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People, they think, "Why should we help the paedophile?

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"We should be prosecuting them, throwing them in jail,

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"having them castrated," but if we offer help to paedophiles,

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we might save children who MIGHT have been abused.

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We want them to go and get help before they do the crime

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so it protects the children.

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-So this, for you, is about child protection.

-Yes.

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We don't want to see other families going through this.

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Paul and Coral Jones have tried to put aside their anger and grief

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to find more effective ways of protecting children.

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The murder of children is extremely rare.

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But it is becoming more and more clear child sex abuse is not.

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Today's report from the Children's Commissioner combines statistics

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from police, social services and voluntary organisations.

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Its findings are chilling.

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The report reveals that, in England alone,

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in a two-year period between 2012 and 2014,

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an estimated 425,000 children and young people were sexually abused.

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That's almost half a million.

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These are shocking numbers, aren't they?

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They are shocking, they are awful.

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We found this level of data

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because, as part of my role as Children's Commissioner,

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I've got the powers to get the data from authorities

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with the names and the information behind that.

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We've been able to cross-correlate this

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so it is a critical assessment.

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It's also a very reliable number for us to work on.

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To put the figures in perspective,

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we have created what we might call Everytown -

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a typical English town of 100,000 people,

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roughly the size of Worcester, Mansfield or Lincoln.

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425,000 victims nationwide is equivalent,

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in a town like this, to almost 800 children -

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roughly one in every school class.

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But even more shocking is how much of this abuse remains hidden.

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The report estimates that just one in eight children who are abused

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come forward and report it.

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The voices of the rest go unheard.

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The vast majority of children experiencing this awful crime

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don't report so aren't getting help.

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They suffer in silence behind closed doors.

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I was scared every night.

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I used to go to bed and, you know, I used to wear layers and layers

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of clothes just so it would, you know, try and protect myself.

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-Yeah.

-I would wrap myself up and try and cocoon myself

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because I was always scared that they would come in.

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Millie is 17. She was abused from the age of six.

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Her story sheds horrific light on why so few children report abuse.

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-Your mother's partner...

-Yep.

-..was the abuser?

-Yep.

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-And also your mother?

-As well as my mum, yeah.

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He sort of put in the initial idea,

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but she was the controller, the manipulator,

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she would turn round and say, "Yes, we can do that," or, "We can't."

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She used to ask me, "Do you want to come into our room tonight?"

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And I would say yes cos I was too scared to say no.

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What would be the consequence if you'd said no?

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It would just be she didn't talk to me for weeks.

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I'd have to fend for myself.

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They never hit me. Well, my mum used to slap me,

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but he never hit me.

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It would just be hell to live there.

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She'd neglect you, she'd freeze you out?

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-Yeah. I wouldn't be in the family. I felt lower than the dog.

-Right.

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Were you threatened or manipulated to not tell people?

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Yeah, it was something that...

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I honestly thought it was something that happens in families,

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but no-one talks about.

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Almost like it was trivial.

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-You thought it was kind of normal?

-Yeah.

-That this is what happened?

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Yeah, no-one told me any different.

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I didn't turn round and say anything

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because I thought every child... that happened to at night.

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For children, abuse by a family member

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or someone around the family environment

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puts into question who there is in the world that they can turn to.

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This is one of the reasons that children don't tell others.

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They need to be able to go to people they can trust,

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and if the harm's coming from that environment,

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they have nowhere to go.

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The statistics suggest that, of children who suffer sexual abuse,

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around two-thirds are abused either by someone in the family

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or by someone they know through the family.

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A survey of adult survivors of abuse within the family environment

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shows that many had more than one abuser.

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By far the most common was a male family friend or neighbour -

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identified by 40%.

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25% said they had been abused by their own father.

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Brothers, uncles, stepfathers

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and grandfathers were all high up on the list.

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And astonishingly, like Millie,

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almost 10% reported being abused by their own mother.

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Statistics show that women often abuse with a man.

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Many are bullied and coerced by that man, but not all.

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It wasn't the case that she was just following his lead,

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it sounds like she was actively leading him.

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-She wanted to do it as well.

-Right.

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I felt like, "What is wrong with me to not get a real mum?

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"Why didn't I get a mum?"

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It's really upsetting to think that I felt...

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I didn't feel worthy of a mum.

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'Millie introduced me to her friend Cameron,

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'who she met through a local support service.'

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When I was ten, I was sexually abused by my dad for five years,

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till the age of 15 and... Yeah.

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Were you aware that what was happening wasn't right?

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I did want to say something to someone,

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but I thought, where it was my dad, maybe no-one would believe me.

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And what about your mum?

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Did you never think you'd be able to tell your mum?

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I weren't sure whether he'd hurt me or not.

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-Right, so there was fear.

-Yeah.

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How did it stop? What happened?

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My mum actually walked in on what was happening

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and phoned the police.

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'Cameron's father went to prison for 15 months.'

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What stops boys particularly from talking about sexual abuse?

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I think, with boys and men, it's the pride

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cos men are seen as strong people who can get through anything

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and I think sometimes it can be if someone finds out,

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they'll call you gay and torment you for it.

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And did you have that experience?

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Yeah, in school, I actually told my best friend,

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or I thought he was and, a couple of weeks later,

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it was round the whole school

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and everyone was calling me gay and bullying me because of it.

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So this is art done by lads that you're working with here.

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The guys you are working with here.

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Yeah, over the past five or six years.

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So these are men who've been abused as children.

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Yes, yeah.

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'Duncan Craig runs a charity for male survivors of sexual abuse.'

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This one I think is probably the most shocking

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in terms of just the real power and depth of it.

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"I'll show you how to be a real man if you cry again.

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"Watch what I do to your mum."

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Do men under-report having been abused?

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Definitely, yeah.

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All the research that's out there proves that.

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A male seems to blame himself more than, in my experience, a female.

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"I should have been able to push him off,"

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"I should have been able to get rid of him,"

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"I should have been able to stop it,"

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and if you're dealing with something

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or you feel shameful about something, why would you speak out?

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Of children who report abuse,

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just over a quarter are male.

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Survivors Manchester's database suggests that, like girls,

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most boys under 16 are abused by someone they know.

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As with Cameron, it also suggests the abuse begins early.

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We're looking at a vast majority, in the 80-81%

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of men were abused under the age of 12.

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-So prepubescent.

-Yeah.

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I often hear stories about men who we're working with,

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trying to think about when did it stop,

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and what it felt like to them

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was that they got too old for the abuser now.

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-Right.

-So from kind of 12 or 13, suddenly now, "I'm too old."

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This graph shows the breakdown of the age

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when abuse happens in or around the family.

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It shows that around a third of abuse

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happens to children of 12 or older - mostly adolescents.

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But the biggest group is among children below the age of puberty.

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These are often the victims of a specific type of offender -

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the paedophile.

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The words "paedophile" and "child abuser"

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are often used interchangeably.

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But they are not always same thing.

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And understanding the difference

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is important for understanding - and preventing - child sex abuse.

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Michael, what's a clinical definition of a paedophile?

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Well, the clinical definition

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that most people who work in this area use

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is to describe someone who is sexually attracted

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to prepubescent children.

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So, this is a child

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who's not showing any signs of sexual development.

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How prevalent is paedophilia?

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I think a reasonable estimate

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for the general male population is around 1%.

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I base that on some recent surveys,

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large surveys done in Germany and in Scandinavia.

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My estimate includes men

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who are exclusively attracted to young children,

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but also men who are able to have relationships with adults as well,

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but they do have a significant interest in young children.

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1% might sound like a small number,

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but, in the context of the whole population,

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it is an alarming figure.

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It would mean there are more than 250,000 -

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that's a quarter of a million - paedophiles in the UK.

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In our Everytown - population 100,000 -

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this would mean almost 400 men

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who have a persistent sexual attraction

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to prepubescent children, whether they act on it or not.

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I went to meet someone that we will call Mike.

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He has twice been convicted for downloading indecent images

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of children from the internet,

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although not for physical abuse of a child.

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'He has since undergone therapy.'

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It breaks my heart to know what I've done, it really does.

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Why?

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Because, every time you look at those images,

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you're abusing a child.

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The images you were looking at,

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they were images of attractive young children

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or sexual images of children?

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Both. I saw everything.

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So this includes children being raped, abused?

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Yeah.

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Is it nature or is it nurture?

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Is this how you're made,

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is this how you're wired or is it something that somehow you,

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through your early life experiences,

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your childhood, you became this person?

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I've got no experiences in my younger life

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that can point to anything to create this.

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The only thing I believe after long discussion with family, with friends

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is this must be natural, and I think it is for a lot of people.

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The question of whether people are born paedophiles is controversial.

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So, what does the science tell us?

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I travelled to Canada to meet psychologist Dr James Cantor,

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whose studies of paedophiles' brains have produced striking conclusions.

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Paedophilia is a sexual orientation.

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Paedophilia is something

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that we are essentially born with,

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does not appear to change over time

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and it's as core to our being as any other sexual orientation is.

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Tell me what it is it that you have been looking at in terms of the brain

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and the brain of the paedophile.

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In the brain, there is a sex network.

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We didn't find anything different in any one part of the brain,

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rather that we're seeing differences in how parts are cabled together.

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These green stripes going through the middle of the white areas,

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-those are the cables.

-Right.

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This red part is the area of the cable

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that is different between the paedophiles and the non-paedophiles.

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It's very easy to think of this literally as a cross-wiring.

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It's as if, in these people, when they perceive a child,

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it's triggering the sexual instincts

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instead of triggering the nurturing instincts.

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So, how does this happen? What's gone on?

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We've been able to narrow it down a little bit

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by looking at other things

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that make paedophiles different from non-paedophiles.

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What we found are that paedophiles

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are more than three times more likely to be non-right-handed -

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that is paedophiles are more than three times as likely

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to be left-handed or ambidextrous.

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Another one of the things

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that turned out to be important was physical height.

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Paedophiles are about two-and-a-half centimetres too short.

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They're shorter than people who commit other kinds of offences.

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This doesn't mean left-handed and short people

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are significantly more likely to be paedophiles.

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But these features tend to be determined during early pregnancy.

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Could this be when paedophilia develops?

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One of the possibilities is that something very general

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has gone wrong, maternal stress,

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something we could treat with vitamins or better nutrition

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for women early in pregnancy.

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It would be wonderful if increasing the amount of prenatal care

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available to women cures both paedophilia -

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or at least prevents it from developing -

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at the same time as increasing the potential health for the kid.

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If paedophilia is hard-wired in the brain,

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that would mean that paedophiles are fundamentally incurable.

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But there is another leading Canadian researcher

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who completely disagrees.

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Do you all consider yourself as paedophiles?

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Is that how you would describe yourself?

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-No.

-Not any more?

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'Dr Paul Fedoroff claims to be able to cure paedophilia,

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'using therapy and anti-androgen drugs

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'that temporarily remove the sex drive.'

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We take sex off the table and we give them

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a chance then to develop healthy lifestyles.

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Get a job and establish a relationship with someone

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who's consensual and so forth that's not primarily based on sex.

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And once they're in that situation,

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then we stop the anti-androgens, that their sex drive comes back.

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And it turns out that if it develops in a normal healthy relationship,

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they start to have sexual activities with their partner,

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which they both enjoy.

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So you stop the medication, they regain their sex drive

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and almost, hey presto, they're now attracted to the adult partner

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and no longer attracted to children, is that right?

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Right, their preference changes to adult.

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And that's what you would say is then that they are cured?

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Right, wouldn't you?

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'It's a remarkable claim.

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'I wanted to test it by talking to one of Dr Fedoroff's patients -

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'a man recently released from prison.'

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Would it be OK for you to tell me what your crime was?

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I molested my two daughters.

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Dr Fedoroff's programme was a real eye-opener.

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The fact that, yeah, change is possible, wow, what an idea.

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I mean, I can stop being the piece of garbage that I think I am

0:21:320:21:39

and actually be a person.

0:21:390:21:41

How do you explain that change?

0:21:410:21:43

What has happened to make that change possible?

0:21:430:21:47

You learn that certain thoughts are very inappropriate

0:21:470:21:53

and now, when I have those thoughts,

0:21:530:21:55

that's exactly what I deem them as.

0:21:550:21:58

So, you still have those thoughts sometimes?

0:21:580:22:01

Especially about my victims.

0:22:030:22:05

About your daughters?

0:22:050:22:07

They're deemed very inappropriate.

0:22:070:22:11

But you still may have thoughts about your victims,

0:22:110:22:13

about your daughters?

0:22:130:22:14

Yeah. When I do, I pray for them.

0:22:140:22:17

So, if you're having thoughts, you're not cured

0:22:170:22:21

because the thoughts are a symptom

0:22:210:22:23

of having a sexual desire towards children.

0:22:230:22:28

Yeah, but I wouldn't classify myself as a paedophile.

0:22:340:22:38

That's history.

0:22:380:22:39

'Despite Dr Fedoroff's claim that he can cure paedophilia,

0:22:410:22:45

'most experts believe that, once they've reached adulthood,

0:22:450:22:49

'paedophiles' sexual desires are fixed.

0:22:490:22:52

'If this is true, then what can be done?'

0:22:520:22:56

PHONE RINGS

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Good morning. Stop It Now helpline, how can I help you?

0:23:000:23:03

You don't have to give me your full name,

0:23:030:23:05

but if you do and give me information

0:23:050:23:07

that identifies a child at risk of being abused,

0:23:070:23:10

we will pass that information on to the appropriate agencies.

0:23:100:23:14

'Stop It Now runs a helpline.

0:23:140:23:16

'Among others, it takes calls from potential abusers.'

0:23:160:23:20

Do you ever find the work disturbing?

0:23:200:23:22

There can be times.

0:23:220:23:24

My main aim is so that they don't reoffend.

0:23:240:23:28

So to establish some trust, to talk with them

0:23:280:23:31

and to find out what's been happening

0:23:310:23:34

so that I can give them practical, sustainable, realistic advice.

0:23:340:23:39

I know what I'm doing's wrong, but I can't stop.

0:23:410:23:44

I'll be arrested if I tell anyone. I'm trapped.

0:23:440:23:49

Who is there to talk to anyway?

0:23:490:23:51

'Stop It Now doesn't offer a cure for paedophilia.

0:23:530:23:57

'It offers therapy and advice

0:23:570:23:59

'about how to control inappropriate sexual desires.

0:23:590:24:02

'It's run by one of Britain's

0:24:020:24:04

'leading experts on child sex abusers.'

0:24:040:24:08

Why should we provide help to those who've committed

0:24:080:24:11

or enjoy viewing images of heinous crimes that are committed

0:24:110:24:16

against children, why should we help them?

0:24:160:24:18

Look, if someone has come to formal attention,

0:24:180:24:21

I'm not here to shelter them

0:24:210:24:23

from the consequences of the criminal law.

0:24:230:24:26

All I'm saying is my primary concern

0:24:260:24:29

is in protecting children and, if we start from that premise,

0:24:290:24:32

what's the best to protect children, then we have to extend services

0:24:320:24:35

that would help sex offenders not be dangerous to children tomorrow.

0:24:350:24:38

But can this approach work?

0:24:440:24:45

If sexual desires are fixed and permanent, can they be controlled?

0:24:450:24:50

'I went to see someone we'll call Chris.

0:24:530:24:56

'He's a paedophile, but has undergone intensive therapy

0:24:560:25:00

'and says he has never abused a child or viewed indecent images.'

0:25:000:25:04

What strategies do you use in order not to act on your urges?

0:25:060:25:12

For me, it was learning the difference

0:25:120:25:15

between want and need.

0:25:150:25:17

You know, we all experience urges to do things,

0:25:170:25:19

but it is just an urge, it doesn't mean that you have to do something

0:25:190:25:23

and just as you can make the choice to act on that feeling,

0:25:230:25:26

you can just as easily make the choice NOT to.

0:25:260:25:29

I think that your sexual desires, my sexuality

0:25:290:25:32

is who I am, it's what I was born with and that's my nature.

0:25:320:25:37

The way I act and my feeling,

0:25:370:25:39

my moral feeling that to act on that sexual impulse is wrong

0:25:390:25:43

and to harm a child is wrong

0:25:430:25:45

is down to the fact that I was brought up

0:25:450:25:47

with a very clear moral compass,

0:25:470:25:49

a very clear idea of what is right and wrong.

0:25:490:25:52

Not all paedophiles are child abusers

0:25:540:25:56

and whatever assistance, help, signposting,

0:25:560:26:00

advice and deterrents that we can provide to paedophiles

0:26:000:26:03

to help contain those interests,

0:26:030:26:05

that's something we should really aim for

0:26:050:26:07

and obviously a critical aim for us at the NSPCC

0:26:070:26:09

is to ensure that people with those sexual interests don't act on them.

0:26:090:26:13

There's no question that paedophiles who abuse children must be locked up.

0:26:150:26:20

But there IS evidence

0:26:230:26:24

that some paedophiles can manage their behaviour.

0:26:240:26:27

But what about other child abusers?

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If we go back to our graph of the age that abuse happens,

0:26:330:26:36

we see that many children are 12, 13 or older -

0:26:360:26:40

beyond the age when paedophiles normally target them.

0:26:400:26:44

So, that raises the question - who is abusing THESE children?

0:26:440:26:49

Isn't anyone who abuses a child a paedophile?

0:26:490:26:53

No, they're not. I mean, in the public conception, they might be,

0:26:530:26:58

but, for our purposes, it's really important to distinguish

0:26:580:27:01

those who are and those who are not.

0:27:010:27:03

There is a group of people, of menfolk, in particular,

0:27:030:27:05

but some women, who will sexually abuse adolescent children.

0:27:050:27:09

They may not be sexually attracted

0:27:090:27:10

to younger children, but to teenagers.

0:27:100:27:12

So it's quite important to distinguish the paedophile

0:27:120:27:15

from other forms of sex offender.

0:27:150:27:17

The first hug, I think, I will never, ever forget, cos I remember

0:27:220:27:25

that feeling in my stomach and in my gut and I felt sick.

0:27:250:27:28

And how old were you, sorry?

0:27:280:27:30

-13.

-13.

0:27:300:27:32

And then it sort of evolved from that to sexual assaults

0:27:320:27:38

and stuff quite quickly.

0:27:380:27:40

'Yehudis was abused by a family friend.

0:27:410:27:44

'Like younger victims, most teenagers are abused

0:27:440:27:47

'either by a member of the family

0:27:470:27:49

'or someone they know through the family.'

0:27:490:27:52

How did the abuse take place? Did he just take you off places?

0:27:520:27:56

There was all different ways. He'd follow me around the house

0:27:560:28:01

so if everyone was in the kitchen or something

0:28:010:28:03

and I was in the living room, he'd sort of miraculously appear there.

0:28:030:28:07

He'd offer me rides

0:28:070:28:09

where I would look the silly one for not taking a ride.

0:28:090:28:13

So I'd end up having to be in the car with him

0:28:130:28:15

and lots of things happened in the car.

0:28:150:28:17

I just kept imagining that I actually would be better off dead

0:28:170:28:22

because I didn't know how I was going to get out of that situation.

0:28:220:28:25

So it took you to thoughts of suicide.

0:28:250:28:27

Yes, daily.

0:28:270:28:30

There almost comes with more of a stigma or an embarrassment

0:28:360:28:39

just to say, "Well, I was a teenager,

0:28:390:28:41

"why didn't I know what was happening?"

0:28:410:28:42

or, "Stop it," or, "Teenagers can be seductive,"

0:28:420:28:46

or, "They can initiate these sort of things,"

0:28:460:28:49

and all these weird connotations.

0:28:490:28:52

And I felt so responsible and so guilty

0:28:520:28:56

and not knowing how to stop it.

0:28:560:28:59

Abusers who are not clinically paedophiles

0:29:060:29:09

often target adolescents,

0:29:090:29:11

but they sometimes target younger children as well.

0:29:110:29:14

Some have a very specific attraction to children going through puberty.

0:29:150:29:20

And there's another group who think their sexual attraction

0:29:200:29:24

to young teenagers is normal -

0:29:240:29:26

that they are no different to the rest of the male population.

0:29:260:29:29

There are some concerning studies

0:29:320:29:34

that would suggest that maybe 10-12%

0:29:340:29:37

of the adult population of the UK have occasionally, if not frequent,

0:29:370:29:41

sexual thoughts involving teenage children.

0:29:410:29:44

But they manage those thoughts, they don't act on them

0:29:440:29:47

and they put them where they belong.

0:29:470:29:49

For the sex offender, though,

0:29:490:29:50

they persuade themselves that this behaviour is OK

0:29:500:29:53

or they're in a situation where they don't care.

0:29:530:29:56

These abusers, like the abusers of younger children, are rarely caught.

0:30:020:30:07

They exploit the fact that traumatised, terrified children

0:30:070:30:10

generally don't come forward to report what has happened to them.

0:30:100:30:14

And even when these children do tell somebody,

0:30:140:30:17

all too often, nobody listens.

0:30:170:30:20

The figures are disturbing.

0:30:230:30:25

The Children's Commissioner's report asked victims what happened

0:30:250:30:28

when they told someone about the abuse.

0:30:280:30:31

Just one in five said it led to the abuse stopping completely.

0:30:310:30:36

Shockingly, almost the same proportion

0:30:360:30:39

said that the abuse actually got worse as a result -

0:30:390:30:42

that the child was, in effect, punished.

0:30:420:30:45

Sometimes adults simply don't believe children

0:30:470:30:51

who tell them about abuse.

0:30:510:30:53

They may find it too shocking or confusing.

0:30:530:30:56

They may have divided loyalties or be complicit.

0:30:560:30:59

Some will be victims of the abuser themselves.

0:30:590:31:02

So often when children disclose, they're not heard,

0:31:050:31:08

they're not listened to.

0:31:080:31:09

The number of times it can take children

0:31:090:31:11

to try to disclose the abuse before they're heard

0:31:110:31:14

and before it stops can sometimes be three, four, five, six times

0:31:140:31:19

and it needs to be as early as possible.

0:31:190:31:21

When adults do listen and do act,

0:31:210:31:24

all too often the abuser is not punished.

0:31:240:31:27

Even when abuse is reported to the police,

0:31:290:31:32

in three out of four cases, no criminal charges are brought

0:31:320:31:36

and conviction rates are lower still.

0:31:360:31:39

In the two-year period between 2012 and 2014,

0:31:390:31:44

when research suggests around 425,000 children

0:31:440:31:48

were sexually abused, there were fewer than 6,500 convictions

0:31:480:31:53

for contact child sex abuse in England.

0:31:530:31:56

Why is that number so small?

0:31:570:32:00

I think these are incredibly complex investigations

0:32:000:32:03

where you simply have the offender and the victim,

0:32:030:32:07

and unless you have physical evidence,

0:32:070:32:10

you are then in a situation where you have the word of the victim

0:32:100:32:13

against the word of the offender,

0:32:130:32:15

which makes it difficult to prosecute.

0:32:150:32:18

I mean, by and large, experts who work with children

0:32:180:32:21

say that children don't make this stuff up.

0:32:210:32:24

If they're saying they're abused,

0:32:240:32:26

it's very likely that they have been abused.

0:32:260:32:28

25% of those cases leading to a perpetrator being charged

0:32:280:32:31

is just terrible.

0:32:310:32:32

Yeah, and I would want it to be a lot higher,

0:32:320:32:35

but, as I've said, these are very, very difficult cases to deal with.

0:32:350:32:40

The stark reality is that for the majority of children

0:32:400:32:46

who report this to the authorities,

0:32:460:32:49

they won't see their perpetrators brought to justice.

0:32:490:32:51

Waiting for children to take the responsibility

0:32:510:32:55

and the burden to disclose this awful experience is not enough.

0:32:550:33:02

We have to change the system, we have to change our approach

0:33:020:33:06

to ensure that we're looking for the signs and symptoms

0:33:060:33:09

and we're supporting children

0:33:090:33:11

to tell us in a way that is supportive to them.

0:33:110:33:14

'As an adult, Yehudis did bring her abuser to court.

0:33:190:33:22

'As so often, it was her word against his.'

0:33:220:33:27

You have to stand on the stand all day

0:33:270:33:29

and just take a beating from a defence lawyer.

0:33:290:33:33

Tell me a bit about that. Why would you describe it as a beating?

0:33:330:33:36

Oh, I felt like I was in a boxing ring.

0:33:360:33:38

Erm, sorry...

0:33:380:33:40

No, it's all right, sweetheart.

0:33:400:33:42

He called me a liar every second word.

0:33:420:33:45

It sounds like you were actually being abused all over again.

0:33:470:33:50

In a very different way, yeah.

0:33:500:33:52

'Yehudis's abuser spent 18 months in prison.'

0:33:540:33:57

But not all abusers are adults.

0:34:020:34:05

One of the most startling revelations

0:34:050:34:07

of the new Children's Commissioner's report

0:34:070:34:10

is that a third of those who abuse children are other children

0:34:100:34:14

or young people under the age of 18.

0:34:140:34:18

'I went to meet the director of an intervention centre in Wales

0:34:230:34:27

'for children displaying harmful sexual behaviour.'

0:34:270:34:30

Can you give me a sense of the kind of child

0:34:300:34:33

that you would be treating here?

0:34:330:34:36

Our young people will have been through

0:34:360:34:40

very difficult and traumatic early childhood experiences,

0:34:400:34:43

so we're talking about neglect,

0:34:430:34:46

trauma, attachment difficulties, poor parenting experiences.

0:34:460:34:51

Sometimes that will have included sexual abuse in their own histories.

0:34:520:34:56

If we were to break this down

0:34:560:34:59

in terms of a nature versus nurture position,

0:34:590:35:03

this is about nurture issues.

0:35:030:35:06

The vast majority of young people of whichever age

0:35:060:35:10

who engage in maladaptive sexual behaviour

0:35:100:35:14

with other children will grow out of that,

0:35:140:35:18

or with the right sorts of support and intervention

0:35:180:35:21

are able to understand where that's come from,

0:35:210:35:25

deal with victim work and move on from these incidents.

0:35:250:35:29

There's no question - early intervention,

0:35:290:35:31

early intervention, early intervention.

0:35:310:35:34

Children who abuse are very often victims themselves.

0:35:370:35:41

They can respond to treatment and change.

0:35:410:35:44

Centres like Kevin's are highly effective

0:35:440:35:47

in reducing the overall amount of child sex abuse.

0:35:470:35:51

But despite the measures put in place to protect children,

0:36:000:36:04

there are fears that abuse could be on the increase.

0:36:040:36:07

Above all, experts are concerned at the impact of the internet.

0:36:070:36:12

The internet is a huge problem.

0:36:150:36:17

There are now more indecent images of children

0:36:180:36:20

in circulation than there ever have been.

0:36:200:36:23

There are more people, I believe,

0:36:230:36:25

using chatroom facilities to groom children.

0:36:250:36:30

and more children, I believe,

0:36:300:36:32

are being abused as a result of that.

0:36:320:36:34

We suspect that there are approximately 50,000 people

0:36:340:36:39

online in the UK downloading child abuse material.

0:36:390:36:42

The abuse is anything that you can imagine.

0:36:430:36:46

We have some images of babies that are a few months old

0:36:460:36:50

that have been quite brutally sexually abused by offenders,

0:36:500:36:54

right up until the latter age of 17-year-olds being abused.

0:36:540:36:59

There are certain types of offenders -

0:36:590:37:02

the ones that, because they want the kudos,

0:37:020:37:05

because they want people to know

0:37:050:37:07

and understand that they are the abuser of the child,

0:37:070:37:10

they will sometimes have the child hold up either a Post-It note

0:37:100:37:14

or a placard that says the date,

0:37:140:37:17

or even the username that that offender uses online

0:37:170:37:20

in order to prove to the community

0:37:200:37:23

that they are in fact the abuser of that child.

0:37:230:37:26

'Today, Paul and Coral Jones are leading a determined campaign

0:37:320:37:36

'to drive paedophiles and other child sex offenders from the internet.'

0:37:360:37:42

Child sex abuse images were viewed by Mark Bridger.

0:37:420:37:47

Do you think they were part of the process

0:37:470:37:52

that led him to what he then did to April?

0:37:520:37:58

-Yeah, I do.

-You do. Tell me why you think that.

0:37:580:38:01

He'd had these images on his computer for a fair while

0:38:010:38:05

and he was known on his computer to be seeing these images

0:38:050:38:08

only three hours before he took April.

0:38:080:38:11

-Three hours?

-Three hours.

0:38:110:38:13

Only three hours and he had, I think,

0:38:130:38:14

it was nearly 400 images on there.

0:38:140:38:16

Do you feel that it is a real risk that people will go,

0:38:160:38:22

will progress from viewing sex abuse images of children

0:38:220:38:26

to then wanting to contact abuse? Do you see that as a kind of...

0:38:260:38:30

There's a definite link.

0:38:300:38:31

When we went to court, Mark Bridger, with his lifestyle and everything,

0:38:310:38:36

and with his downloading of these images,

0:38:360:38:39

it was proved in court that there was a procedure

0:38:390:38:43

that he went through and eventually took April.

0:38:430:38:46

So, yes, there is a link there.

0:38:460:38:48

If there had been a child available to you

0:38:480:38:51

when you were looking at those images,

0:38:510:38:54

would viewing those images have made it more likely

0:38:540:38:58

that you may yourself then have abused that child?

0:38:580:39:03

I hope, in my heart of hearts, that I wouldn't cross that line.

0:39:070:39:13

But would I have done it? I don't know.

0:39:130:39:16

I just pray that I wouldn't have done it.

0:39:160:39:18

But you can't say that you...

0:39:180:39:19

-I can't say,

-..100% would not have done?

-No.

0:39:190:39:22

But the internet also offers an opportunity

0:39:280:39:31

in the fight against child sex abuse.

0:39:310:39:34

It's something that's quite discreet

0:39:340:39:36

and I need to speak to you in private.

0:39:360:39:38

It means the police are no longer

0:39:380:39:40

entirely dependent on child victims and their ability to report abuse.

0:39:400:39:45

As a detective working in the police,

0:39:470:39:49

whenever I dealt with theft, shoplifting, even violent offences,

0:39:490:39:55

one of the first things I looked for was the CCTV.

0:39:550:39:59

Well, that is what an indecent image of a child is.

0:39:590:40:01

It's the CCTV that the offender has captured for us.

0:40:010:40:05

We're using some amazing technology here.

0:40:050:40:08

Images have certain clues contained within them.

0:40:080:40:12

We analyse that in order to find out where the image originated from.

0:40:120:40:17

If we look at the figures from last year,

0:40:170:40:19

we saved 100 children from being further abused by people in the UK -

0:40:190:40:25

and that was just this team.

0:40:250:40:28

You didn't disclose.

0:40:320:40:34

It was through the internet that the abuse came to light.

0:40:340:40:38

They were exchanging pornographic pictures through other people,

0:40:380:40:42

I think there was a network of people that were exchanging pictures

0:40:420:40:46

and the police caught one of them and caught all of them.

0:40:460:40:50

So if they'd never taken it as far as the internet,

0:40:510:40:56

I don't think I would have said anything,

0:40:560:40:59

I don't think they would have been caught.

0:40:590:41:01

Millie's abusers were both jailed.

0:41:030:41:05

The fight against child sex abuse is at a turning point.

0:41:170:41:21

Police investigations into internet offences

0:41:210:41:24

have led to more and more abusers being identified.

0:41:240:41:27

Cases like Jimmy Savile's

0:41:270:41:29

have led to thousands of victims coming forward.

0:41:290:41:32

This is a moment of opportunity.

0:41:320:41:34

This year, we'll investigate circa 70,000 allegations

0:41:350:41:39

of child sexual abuse, which is a really significant increase.

0:41:390:41:45

It's an 88% increase on the figures we saw in 2012.

0:41:450:41:49

40-50% of Crown Court time now

0:41:490:41:51

is taken up with dealing with sex offenders.

0:41:510:41:55

What we now have to focus on

0:41:550:41:56

is how we stop that abuse taking place in the first place

0:41:560:42:00

because, by the time the abuse is reported, the damage is done.

0:42:000:42:04

We need to seize the moment to improve the criminal justice system,

0:42:090:42:13

so it does more to identify, investigate

0:42:130:42:16

and prosecute this crime.

0:42:160:42:18

Traumatised, terrified children can't always help themselves.

0:42:180:42:22

Parents, professionals - all of us - we need to learn that children

0:42:220:42:27

sometimes speak without words and we have to learn to spot the signs.

0:42:270:42:32

I used to self-harm quite a bit. It was a cry for help.

0:42:350:42:39

I wasn't attention seeking but it was, er, "Help me,"

0:42:390:42:43

and it was a visual, because I couldn't explain it.

0:42:430:42:46

I couldn't articulate it. I didn't know how to turn round

0:42:460:42:49

and say to one of my family members, "Oh, this is happening."

0:42:490:42:53

So, I was hurting myself in the hope

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that someone would turn round and notice and ask me why.

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-But, no-one did.

-No-one did?

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No-one noticed.

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There are many children

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and teenagers who are living the nightmare of abuse right now.

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They must know that help is available

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and that there is life after abuse.

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'Today, Yehudis runs a charity for survivors of child sexual abuse

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'and has just got married.

0:43:290:43:30

'Cameron has got his first job...

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'..while Millie is studying for her A-levels

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'and applying for university.'

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You don't feel like a victim.

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No, I'm not a victim.

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I'm a survivor, I'm here.

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What does that mean? Tell me.

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Even though I've gone through that horrible time in my life,

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I understand that I have got so much potential

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to have an amazing life and I've got so much time

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that I can make a change and I can do whatever I want to do

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and I can have aspirations and achieve them

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and just enjoy my life.

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Look at you smiling.

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