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This mass terrorism is the new evil in our world today. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:10 | |
We'll smoke them out of thehr holes and get them running. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
Muslims here say they are bding branded as extremists. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
Often, we're under attack. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:19 | |
We're feeling marginalised. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:24 | |
Looks like an explosion. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
A callous attack on purely hnnocent members of the public. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:31 | |
The EDL says its members ard simply voicing their opposition | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
to Muslim extremism. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
I was born here and I am as much British as any other white person | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
that lives in this country. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:44 | |
The process behind Trojan Horses is simple. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:03 | |
Step one, identify schools that are based in Muslim areas. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
Step two, select a group of parents. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:11 | |
Step three, put your own Governor in. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
Step four, identify key staff to disrupt the school from within. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:20 | |
And step five, anonymous letter and PR campaign. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
Those were the steps that were followed at my school. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
There is the agenda. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:32 | |
The problem of Islamist extremism in our schools is serious. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:42 | |
The Trojan Horse... Everyone now knows it was a hoax. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
This was done as part of a witchhunt. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
My reaction was that they did not uncover a lot. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:53 | |
Got about 20 minutes, 25 minutes to think about all | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
the successes that have happened this week in school | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
and who we want to say well done to. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:13 | |
We have 739 children on roll currently. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
And, at the moment, about 92% of those children are Muslil. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
Most of those children have Pakistani heritage, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
some Bangladeshi, a few Somalian and a few Yemeni. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:29 | |
I think any head teacher is concerned about any kind | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
of extremism, because you c`n have extremism, extreme views, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
extreme behaviour in any school in this country. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
It is not confined to certahn areas of the country at all. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
I joined Park View in 1983 and my role was head of mathematics. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
The culture of the children was important. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:55 | |
But you should not allow ond culture to dominate over another culture. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
Things started to change in '97 | 0:02:59 | 0:03:04 | |
We had a meeting of the full governing body, and the chahr | 0:03:04 | 0:03:10 | |
was challenged by a governor with the words of, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
what are you doing sitting there? | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
You have no right to be Chair of Governors. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
And immediately following that, Tahir Alam became | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
Chair of Governors. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:28 | |
And that was a very, very significant change | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
to the school's ethos. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
He is a capable person. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:33 | |
I think he is a reasonable person. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
I think he is also an assertive person. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
We came to this country in 0978 and I remember discussions | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
with my father as to why we came here in the first place. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:51 | |
And his primary reasons were that we should receive | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
education in this country. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
So, that has always stayed with me. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
We settled in Alum Rock in Birmingham. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
Average family from Pakistan. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
Not particularly religious. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
I went to Park View School. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
I did experience racism in the school. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:16 | |
I was called "Park", "curry-smelling Park", | 0:04:16 | 0:04:17 | |
"smelly Park". | 0:04:17 | 0:04:23 | |
I was also beaten up by a ntmber... | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
I was beaten up four times in racist attacks as well. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
And in 1993, I saw a progralme that resonated quite | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
importantly in my mind. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:41 | |
Britain's new underclass is Asian and Muslim. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
A once tightly-knit community is now in crisis, with drug | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
abuse, crime and family breakdown on the increase. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
What they were saying was that, you know, if the education failure | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
continues at the rate and scale it is continuing at, | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
we will have a serious underclass, a Muslim underclass. | 0:04:54 | 0:05:04 | |
There is little doubt that Luslim children have suffered from low | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
teacher expectations. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:11 | |
All these children, year in, year out, are systematicallx | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
failing and nobody is doing anything about it. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
It was an important moment because I did decide at the time | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
that I wanted to make a difference in education. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:28 | |
4% of children got A-C gradds. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:38 | |
The school was in chaos, quite frankly. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
It was not providing an education at all. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
At the time, I did not even think about the faith, to be | 0:05:42 | 0:05:50 | |
very frank with you. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:51 | |
I think that confident children do well in education. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
And whatever builds the confidence of the children and being | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
comfortable in their own skin is important. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
99% of children were from this particular background. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
I think it is important for schools to value | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
and respect those backgrounds. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:05 | |
It would mean that, for exalple you know, that we would not show | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
very explicit videos about sex education but it would be t`ught | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
in a more kind of... | 0:06:11 | 0:06:18 | |
We applied for the collective worship to be Islamic, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
reflecting the family background of the children. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:21 | |
They were trying to change the ethos of the school from one | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
of being a British school in England, preparing British | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
students for working within Britain and the wider world, | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
to a more insular community. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:39 | |
The council knew what was going on and they did nothing. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
I am a first-generation Sikh. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
My father came here. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:53 | |
He was a professional teachdr back in India. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:59 | |
He knew the power of educathon. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:00 | |
He instilled that into us very early. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:08 | |
I was brought up in a multicultural area of Coventry, inner-citx. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
So, black faces, white faces, brown faces... | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
There was no tension, only great memories. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:22 | |
My first headship was Saltldy School. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:27 | |
95% of the ethnic make-up was from a Muslim background. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
My job was to help get them and raise them to a point | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
where they could be successful members of - | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
and contribute to - society in Britain. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:42 | |
When I look back, what was going on was a calculated agenda to put | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
through an Islamic focus in schools and to remove head teachers like me | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
who would not conform to those agendas. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:59 | |
The process behind Trojan Horse is simple. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
It is about people seeing otr intentions as respectable | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
and being accepted by the kdy stakeholders, such as the dhrector | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
of education and the City Council. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
Is that a fair description of actually what happened? | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
It is. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:21 | |
But I would not limit it to the director of education | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
and the City Council. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
Ofsted gave an "outstanding" label to the schools here. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:33 | |
Ministers and the Prime Minhster gave "outstanding" labels to those | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
schools and feted them with praise. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:37 | |
They considered them so successful and so desirable that they held them | 0:08:37 | 0:08:43 | |
up as national examples to be copied by other schools and gave them | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
autonomous status separate from the council. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:52 | |
There were a lot of people who were drawn in by | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
this and duped by it. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
Including...? | 0:08:57 | 0:08:58 | |
Including the City Council. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:04 | |
The year I joined the school as a governor in 1997, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
the results were 4% of all children getting A-C grades. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
And the year that I left thd school, the results were at 75% | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
of children getting A* to C, including English and maths. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:22 | |
In terms of life chances for youngsters from that colmunity, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
what Park View senior leadership achieved is an example to us all. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:32 | |
I was invited to 10 Downing Street by Tony Blair in recognition | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
of my services and contributions to school governance. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
So there is nothing clandestine about what we were doing. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
I mean, I was very much an establishment person. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
Faith schools are very popular, they do deliver a very good product | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
as far as education is concdrned. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
The achievement of Muslim children lags by 14 percentage points | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
against national average. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
So, basically, our children are being subjected | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
to cultural oppression. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
And Sir Michael Wilshaw, the chief of Ofsted, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:02 | |
he came as well to the school. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:08 | |
It was the first school I vhsited when I became chief inspector. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
And all the data showed it had come a long way in a relatively | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
short period of time. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
We deemed it to be an outst`nding school and the head teacher had | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
done a tremendous job. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
Because they were getting outstanding results, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
the DfE encouraged them to take responsibility for other schools. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:36 | |
When we actually failed the second visit from the Ofsted inspector | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
the local authority was then required to appoint | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
an improvement partner. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:46 | |
And Park View was being suggested, both by the local authority | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
and at that stage also by officers of the DfE. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
I think the crossover period between Tahir Alam and us | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
was about six months. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
And in those six months, I think I saw Tahir Alam | 0:11:01 | 0:11:06 | |
in the school about twice. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
And I got no sense from him that he was actually trying | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
to Islamise the school. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:17 | |
At Saltey School, we had a Sikh head running a Muslim school. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:22 | |
Balwant Bains will soon be sacked and we will move in. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
And, of course, it was not long after this that Mr Bains | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
lost his job. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
Step one, identify your school. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:39 | |
Step two, select a group of Salafi parents. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:41 | |
Step three, put your own governors in. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
Step four, identify key staff to disrupt the school from within. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
Step five, anonymised letter and PR campaign. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:51 | |
Do you know what? When I read that, that... | 0:11:51 | 0:11:56 | |
It upsets me a little bit. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
It upsets me because the step-by-step programme | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
is exactly what happened at our school. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:08 | |
Balwant Bains, a very successful school leader, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
was taking his school forward in terms of standards | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
and was challenging some very difficult issues within his school. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
There was the suggestion that we should have single sex | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
classes, which separated thd boys from the girls. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
And one of the biggest ones that I was very upset about was taking | 0:12:25 | 0:12:33 | |
citizenship off the curriculum. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:34 | |
We would call it Britishness now. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:42 | |
Yet they wanted to take that away. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
That that just totally went against my ethos of | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
an inclusive school. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
On numerous occasions, Balwant went to the local | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
authority with the evidence, with the account of the pressure | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
he was being subjected to. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:57 | |
No-one took action. | 0:12:57 | 0:12:58 | |
No-one listened. | 0:12:58 | 0:12:59 | |
No-one intervened. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
West Midlands Police were c`lled to Saltley School in Birmingham | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
after reports a pupil was threatening others with a knife. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:13 | |
The school decided to permanently exclude the teenage boy. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
Saltley head teacher is a r`cist. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
He suspended a Muslim child but does not suspend a non-Muslim. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
Are you going to let this r`cist, Islamophobic teacher, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
Balwant Bains, get away with it | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
If you believe in justice and that everyone should be treated dqually, | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
join the demonstration. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:29 | |
Friday 27th of September, outside the school at 2.45. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:38 | |
This was their way to put pressure and to remove me | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
because I wasn't conforming. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:45 | |
It was a nightmare. It was a horrible place to be. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:52 | |
So, the moment I read the Trojan Horse letter, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
I knew how big it was going to be. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
A leaked anonymous letter alleged Muslim plots... | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
The plan, known as Operation Trojan Horse... | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
A conspiracy by Muslim hardliners has been taking | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
over state schools... | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
A dozen schools in Birmingh`m are now being investigated over | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
allegations of extremism. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:14 | |
The future of 15,000 pupils is at stake. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
The man brought in by the Education Secretary | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
to investigate used to be the national head of counterterror. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
Peter Clarke has confirmed there was evidence of a plot. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
Ofsted said there had been a deliberate attempt to change | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
the ethos of the schools. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
A historic failure to tackle non-violent extremisl. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
The problem of Islamist extremism in our schools is serious. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
The situation not just in Birmingham, but elsewherd | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
this is happening. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
I think the headline finding obviously has to be the fact I came | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
into possession of a WhatsApp social media | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
discussion group. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
Some 55 members, during the relevant period, most of whom were tdachers | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
at the Park View Educational Trust, and what it disclosed | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
was a whole range of completely unacceptable attitudes. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
Misogyny, homophobia, discussing how to bring mord | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
segregation into the school, disparaging remarks about British | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
service personnel, scepticism about reports of the attack | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
on Lee Rigby and the Boston bombing, and so on. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
A litany of intolerance. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
I think anyone would find it shocking that those people who have | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
been entrusted with the card and education of children should | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
hold those attitudes. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
If those kind of views were raised with myself, I would find them | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
completely unacceptable. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
But that is not something that was being promoted | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
at the school. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
They are not part of school policy. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
At one secular primary school, terms such as "white prostitute , | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
unsuitable for primary children s ears, were used on Friday | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
assemblies, run exclusively by Muslim staff. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
At one secular secondary school staff told officials the call | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
to prayer was broadcast over the playground using loudspdakers. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:02 | |
In biology, students were told "evolution is not what we bdlieve". | 0:16:02 | 0:16:07 | |
We do have Islamic assemblids, but they just teach you lessons | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
like to be nice to one another, be nice to your parents, and so on. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
It's not like we have assault courses on how to make bombs | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
and all sorts of stuff. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
He says that you could sit with the girls. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
You can, you can. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
You can, you can. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:24 | |
But you can't, like, have a girlfriend or | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
have a boyfriend. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:27 | |
You can't do any of that. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
That's true, and in Islam, you can't have a girlfriend | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
or boyfriend either. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:32 | |
Yeah, but it's not an Islamic school. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
And it feels like one, does it? | 0:16:34 | 0:16:35 | |
Yeah, it does feel like an Hslamic school, but is not supposed | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
to be an Islamic school. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:39 | |
It's an academy. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
We found that governors were narrowing the curricultm, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
intimidating staff, intimidating headteachers, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
to try and impose their own agenda and those schools, to introduce | 0:16:48 | 0:16:53 | |
to try and impose their own agenda on those schools, to introdtce | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
a faith-based curriculum in non-faith schools. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
So here, Alam is a pivotal figure. Some claim he's the leader of a plot | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
to make schools more Islamic. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
I've not formally been labelled as an extremist. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:13 | |
I was a Sunni hardliner, according to Peter Clarke. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
I'm an educationalist by profession, so the vast majority of contacts | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
on the list that he's got this spider diagram on, | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
there's nothing clandestine about any of those. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
Peter Clarke is trying to put across that he has | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
unearthed all of these. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
Hello, Mr Alam, Mr Alam? Hello? | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
Your answer is to deny everxthing. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:38 | |
Is that still the case? | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
I consider myself to be a person who, you know, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
who tried to make a contribttion, a voluntary contribution, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
to the well-being and success of children, and for that, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
I have been vilified. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
Well, Mr Alam has a bit of a difficulty here, doesn't he? | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
He was the chairman of governors of that school for a | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
considerable period of time. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:01 | |
Now, either he did know about the attitudes held | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
by his staff and displayed in that one sap group, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:11 | |
by his staff and displayed in that WhatsApp group, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
or he didn't. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:14 | |
If he did know, and didn't do anything about it, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
he is as culpable as they are. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
If he didn't know, then cle`rly he was ineffectual as a chahrman | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
of governors and has no right to criticise anybody who makes | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
observations about what is going on in his school. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
A second report, published today by Birmingham City Council, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
found some individuals were promoting Islamic practices, | 0:18:28 | 0:18:29 | |
and it agreed that weaknessds in governance and a failure | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
by the authorities to act on warnings had | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
allowed this to happen. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
It is worth making the point that Birmingham City Council failed | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
in their duty to these parents. And indeed... | 0:18:40 | 0:18:45 | |
Birmingham City Council's lost half its workforce in the l`st eight | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
years, so why didn't we spot the signs when we had them? | 0:18:49 | 0:18:56 | |
Partly, we didn't do our jobs well enough, but also, partly, | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
you have to recognise that the role of the local authority has been | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
changing quite considerably over that time, and we're not | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
the beast that we used to bd. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
Well, the Trojan Horse list, everybody now knows it was ` hoax. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
It was never written by Tahhr Alam. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
So I wasn't one of his governors and I wasn't one | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
of his chair of governors. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
The Trojan Horse letter is a complete hoax. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
It is written by, you know, a headteacher, and it is wrhtten | 0:19:32 | 0:19:38 | |
for the purposes of defending him or herself, and perhaps | 0:19:38 | 0:19:43 | |
an element of revenge. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
It doesn't matter whether the letter was real or a ho`x. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
That's a huge red herring. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:51 | |
The issue for me was whether what the letter | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
was alleging was true, and we found that | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
in many ways, it was. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
My reaction was that they didn't uncover a lot. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
I don't think they were bre`king the law, and I don't think | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
that they were doing anything particularly wrong. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
I thought that what was on the WhatsApp, some | 0:20:08 | 0:20:13 | |
of the views expressed there were really unpalatable. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
I don't think there was any excuse for that. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
But apart from that, I'm not sure it was anything that | 0:20:20 | 0:20:26 | |
really struck me as, you know, totally outrageous | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
or outwith the law. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
The accusations that they wdre encouraging children to prax... | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
Well, the law requires them to pray in school, so where's | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
the problem in that? | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
There was an accusation, you know, the separation | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
of boys from girls. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
Well, you know, English sochety itself has separated boys | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
and girls in schools. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
We've got girls' schools, we've got boys' schools. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
The law allows an Islamic ethos in a school. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
Previously rated outstanding, Park View Academy in Alum Rock | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
is now deemed to be inadequ`te. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:08 | |
Now, if only when you begin raising the question that | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
suddenly, Ofsted took... | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
I don't know whether they took fright or what, but suddenlx, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
within a matter of a couple of years, the school is said | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
to be a failing school, and I ask myself, do institttions | 0:21:18 | 0:21:26 | |
change as quickly as that? | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
They were outstanding schools on the basis of the progress | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
and attainment measures that we used at that time. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
Because they had been judged to be outstanding and therefore not | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
subject to further inspection, because of that outstanding grade, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
the governors saw that as a real opportunity to manipulate the system | 0:21:41 | 0:21:47 | |
and to impose their agenda and their own narrow | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
curriculum on the school. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
The school didn't change. Our curriculum didn't changd. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
Our practices didn't change. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
Our collective worship didn't change. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:02 | |
But something else changed, and that was the political | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
motivation, I think. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:06 | |
I think the whole interventhon into our schools was motivated | 0:22:06 | 0:22:11 | |
by Islamophobic intentions, and it came from the highest | 0:22:11 | 0:22:18 | |
political office. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:23 | |
They expected to find extrelist radicalisation leading | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
to terrorist activity, and what they actually found | 0:22:38 | 0:22:44 | |
was a religious faith overexerting itself slightly in order th`t | 0:22:44 | 0:22:52 | |
schools reflected their relhgious practices and background, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:59 | |
and they are not alone in doing that. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
Other faiths have done the same thing in other places. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:08 | |
My concern is that we shouldn't be complacent, and we shouldn't believe | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
that this sort of thing could not happen again. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
It could. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
And it will happen again, unless we are vigilant, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
unless the local authority, which is responsible | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
for safeguarding and supporting headteachers in their schools, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
unless they take their job seriously, and our view | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
here in Birmingham is that they're not taking their job | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
seriously enough. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
They don't know what's happdning in individual schools. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
We've done everything that has been asked of us to shore | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
up our strategies and to fix what happened. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:51 | |
up our structures and to fix what happened. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
At the council, we have a ndw whistle-blowing procedure, | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
and we regularly get whistld-blowing Commission, showing that people | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
and we regularly get whistld-blowing coming in, showing that people | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
are aware of that system and do know they can raise things in confidence | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
and action will be taken. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:04 | |
We already require independdnt schools, academies, and Fred Schools | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
to respect British values. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:07 | |
Now, we will consult on new rules that will strengthen the st`ndard | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
further, requiring all thosd schools actively to promote British ideas. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
So this week, your teachers have been looking for children | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
who demonstrate hope. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
Some children think, because their mum, | 0:24:25 | 0:24:26 | |
dad, grandad, grandma, are from Pakistan originallx, | 0:24:26 | 0:24:33 | |
they think they're Pakistanh, but they've got British passports. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:38 | |
So we've done a lot of work on identity, but being proud to be | 0:24:38 | 0:24:43 | |
but being proud to be a Brulmie being proud to be from Birmhngham, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
being proud to be British. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:48 | |
So that's where British valtes come in, that there are some really great | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
things about being British. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:52 | |
So our ethos here has actually very little to do with religion | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
It has to do with children, education, and we're quite firm that | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
school is school, places of worship are places of worship. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:04 | |
What has come out since the Trojan Horse letter | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
became public totally vindicates what Michael's r`ising, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:23 | |
and he has been very shabbily treated. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
I tried to continue in educ`tion, and I thought, fine, that's it. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:36 | |
I've had enough, so I retrahned as an electrician and ran mx own | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
electrical business for the next ten years to try and keep the wolf | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
from the door. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:43 | |
Had it not been for my very supportive wife, I would probably | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
have been dead by now. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:47 | |
Because I was very upset. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
I gave about 20 years of my life to governing bodies of two schools. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:05 | |
And for it to be actually w`shed away as being "Muslim extrelism , | 0:26:05 | 0:26:10 | |
extremist, the only views are never held is that kids deserve | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
extremist, the only views I've ever held is that kids deserve | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
an outstanding level of education. So I do feel hurt. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:21 | |
And I feel sorry and sad th`t Muslims have actually been | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
frightened away from being teachers and being involved in education | 0:26:23 | 0:26:29 | |
I didn't work for a year. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
Although I'm starting to rebuild my career again now, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
and have a job that I thorotghly enjoy, I'm nowhere near the level | 0:26:43 | 0:26:49 | |
that I was of enjoying workhng with children every day, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
seeing them happy, because of the impact and work | 0:26:52 | 0:26:57 | |
that you were doing. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
I have no regrets, really. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:05 | |
I have no regrets, really. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
I am very proud of what we've achieved, for the children | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
and for the community. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
That battle, really, for eqtality and dignity has to continue. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
I believe Islam is part and parcel of this country. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
Some people have difficulty with that. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
And then there is the wider political context of terrorhsm | 0:27:28 | 0:27:33 | |
and so on, which is fuelling certain attitudes and certain intoldrances, | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
but I think those things, as a society, we have to be able | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
to work through that, I think. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
And there is no other soluthon. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
If you ask me, in summary, what happened, it's that sole | 0:27:48 | 0:27:53 | |
governors behaved badly and inappropriately, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
that some teachers behaved badly and inappropriately, | 0:27:56 | 0:28:04 | |
central government behaved unwisely, and I believe that | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
the victims are not those pdople. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:12 | |
The victims are the children and the community | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
of East Birmingham. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:21 | |
Hello, I'm Riz Lateef with your 90 second update. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 |