The Hunt for Classroom Extremists


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This mass terrorism is the new evil in our world today.

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We'll smoke them out of thehr holes and get them running.

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Muslims here say they are bding branded as extremists.

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Often, we're under attack.

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We're feeling marginalised.

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Looks like an explosion.

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A callous attack on purely hnnocent members of the public.

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The EDL says its members ard simply voicing their opposition

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to Muslim extremism.

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I was born here and I am as much British as any other white person

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that lives in this country.

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The process behind Trojan Horses is simple.

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Step one, identify schools that are based in Muslim areas.

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Step two, select a group of parents.

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Step three, put your own Governor in.

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Step four, identify key staff to disrupt the school from within.

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And step five, anonymous letter and PR campaign.

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Those were the steps that were followed at my school.

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There is the agenda.

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The problem of Islamist extremism in our schools is serious.

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The Trojan Horse... Everyone now knows it was a hoax.

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This was done as part of a witchhunt.

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My reaction was that they did not uncover a lot.

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Got about 20 minutes, 25 minutes to think about all

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the successes that have happened this week in school

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and who we want to say well done to.

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We have 739 children on roll currently.

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And, at the moment, about 92% of those children are Muslil.

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Most of those children have Pakistani heritage,

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some Bangladeshi, a few Somalian and a few Yemeni.

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I think any head teacher is concerned about any kind

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of extremism, because you c`n have extremism, extreme views,

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extreme behaviour in any school in this country.

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It is not confined to certahn areas of the country at all.

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I joined Park View in 1983 and my role was head of mathematics.

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The culture of the children was important.

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But you should not allow ond culture to dominate over another culture.

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Things started to change in '97

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We had a meeting of the full governing body, and the chahr

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was challenged by a governor with the words of,

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what are you doing sitting there?

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You have no right to be Chair of Governors.

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And immediately following that, Tahir Alam became

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Chair of Governors.

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And that was a very, very significant change

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to the school's ethos.

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He is a capable person.

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I think he is a reasonable person.

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I think he is also an assertive person.

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We came to this country in 0978 and I remember discussions

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with my father as to why we came here in the first place.

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And his primary reasons were that we should receive

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education in this country.

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So, that has always stayed with me.

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We settled in Alum Rock in Birmingham.

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Average family from Pakistan.

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Not particularly religious.

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I went to Park View School.

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I did experience racism in the school.

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I was called "Park", "curry-smelling Park",

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"smelly Park".

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I was also beaten up by a ntmber...

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I was beaten up four times in racist attacks as well.

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And in 1993, I saw a progralme that resonated quite

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importantly in my mind.

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Britain's new underclass is Asian and Muslim.

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A once tightly-knit community is now in crisis, with drug

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abuse, crime and family breakdown on the increase.

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What they were saying was that, you know, if the education failure

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continues at the rate and scale it is continuing at,

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we will have a serious underclass, a Muslim underclass.

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There is little doubt that Luslim children have suffered from low

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teacher expectations.

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All these children, year in, year out, are systematicallx

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failing and nobody is doing anything about it.

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It was an important moment because I did decide at the time

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that I wanted to make a difference in education.

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4% of children got A-C gradds.

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The school was in chaos, quite frankly.

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It was not providing an education at all.

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At the time, I did not even think about the faith, to be

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very frank with you.

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I think that confident children do well in education.

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And whatever builds the confidence of the children and being

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comfortable in their own skin is important.

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99% of children were from this particular background.

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I think it is important for schools to value

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and respect those backgrounds.

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It would mean that, for exalple you know, that we would not show

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very explicit videos about sex education but it would be t`ught

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in a more kind of...

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We applied for the collective worship to be Islamic,

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reflecting the family background of the children.

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They were trying to change the ethos of the school from one

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of being a British school in England, preparing British

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students for working within Britain and the wider world,

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to a more insular community.

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The council knew what was going on and they did nothing.

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I am a first-generation Sikh.

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My father came here.

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He was a professional teachdr back in India.

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He knew the power of educathon.

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He instilled that into us very early.

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I was brought up in a multicultural area of Coventry, inner-citx.

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So, black faces, white faces, brown faces...

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There was no tension, only great memories.

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My first headship was Saltldy School.

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95% of the ethnic make-up was from a Muslim background.

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My job was to help get them and raise them to a point

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where they could be successful members of -

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and contribute to - society in Britain.

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When I look back, what was going on was a calculated agenda to put

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through an Islamic focus in schools and to remove head teachers like me

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who would not conform to those agendas.

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The process behind Trojan Horse is simple.

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It is about people seeing otr intentions as respectable

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and being accepted by the kdy stakeholders, such as the dhrector

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of education and the City Council.

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Is that a fair description of actually what happened?

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It is.

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But I would not limit it to the director of education

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and the City Council.

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Ofsted gave an "outstanding" label to the schools here.

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Ministers and the Prime Minhster gave "outstanding" labels to those

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schools and feted them with praise.

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They considered them so successful and so desirable that they held them

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up as national examples to be copied by other schools and gave them

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autonomous status separate from the council.

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There were a lot of people who were drawn in by

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this and duped by it.

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Including...?

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Including the City Council.

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The year I joined the school as a governor in 1997,

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the results were 4% of all children getting A-C grades.

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And the year that I left thd school, the results were at 75%

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of children getting A* to C, including English and maths.

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In terms of life chances for youngsters from that colmunity,

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what Park View senior leadership achieved is an example to us all.

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I was invited to 10 Downing Street by Tony Blair in recognition

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of my services and contributions to school governance.

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So there is nothing clandestine about what we were doing.

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I mean, I was very much an establishment person.

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Faith schools are very popular, they do deliver a very good product

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as far as education is concdrned.

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The achievement of Muslim children lags by 14 percentage points

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against national average.

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So, basically, our children are being subjected

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to cultural oppression.

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And Sir Michael Wilshaw, the chief of Ofsted,

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he came as well to the school.

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It was the first school I vhsited when I became chief inspector.

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And all the data showed it had come a long way in a relatively

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short period of time.

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We deemed it to be an outst`nding school and the head teacher had

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done a tremendous job.

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Because they were getting outstanding results,

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the DfE encouraged them to take responsibility for other schools.

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When we actually failed the second visit from the Ofsted inspector

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the local authority was then required to appoint

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an improvement partner.

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And Park View was being suggested, both by the local authority

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and at that stage also by officers of the DfE.

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I think the crossover period between Tahir Alam and us

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was about six months.

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And in those six months, I think I saw Tahir Alam

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in the school about twice.

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And I got no sense from him that he was actually trying

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to Islamise the school.

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At Saltey School, we had a Sikh head running a Muslim school.

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Balwant Bains will soon be sacked and we will move in.

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And, of course, it was not long after this that Mr Bains

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lost his job.

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Step one, identify your school.

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Step two, select a group of Salafi parents.

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Step three, put your own governors in.

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Step four, identify key staff to disrupt the school from within.

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Step five, anonymised letter and PR campaign.

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Do you know what? When I read that, that...

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It upsets me a little bit.

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It upsets me because the step-by-step programme

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is exactly what happened at our school.

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Balwant Bains, a very successful school leader,

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was taking his school forward in terms of standards

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and was challenging some very difficult issues within his school.

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There was the suggestion that we should have single sex

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classes, which separated thd boys from the girls.

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And one of the biggest ones that I was very upset about was taking

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citizenship off the curriculum.

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We would call it Britishness now.

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Yet they wanted to take that away.

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That that just totally went against my ethos of

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an inclusive school.

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On numerous occasions, Balwant went to the local

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authority with the evidence, with the account of the pressure

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he was being subjected to.

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No-one took action.

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No-one listened.

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No-one intervened.

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West Midlands Police were c`lled to Saltley School in Birmingham

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after reports a pupil was threatening others with a knife.

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The school decided to permanently exclude the teenage boy.

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Saltley head teacher is a r`cist.

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He suspended a Muslim child but does not suspend a non-Muslim.

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Are you going to let this r`cist, Islamophobic teacher,

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Balwant Bains, get away with it

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If you believe in justice and that everyone should be treated dqually,

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join the demonstration.

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Friday 27th of September, outside the school at 2.45.

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This was their way to put pressure and to remove me

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because I wasn't conforming.

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It was a nightmare. It was a horrible place to be.

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So, the moment I read the Trojan Horse letter,

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I knew how big it was going to be.

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A leaked anonymous letter alleged Muslim plots...

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The plan, known as Operation Trojan Horse...

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A conspiracy by Muslim hardliners has been taking

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over state schools...

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A dozen schools in Birmingh`m are now being investigated over

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allegations of extremism.

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The future of 15,000 pupils is at stake.

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The man brought in by the Education Secretary

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to investigate used to be the national head of counterterror.

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Peter Clarke has confirmed there was evidence of a plot.

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Ofsted said there had been a deliberate attempt to change

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the ethos of the schools.

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A historic failure to tackle non-violent extremisl.

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The problem of Islamist extremism in our schools is serious.

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The situation not just in Birmingham, but elsewherd

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this is happening.

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I think the headline finding obviously has to be the fact I came

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into possession of a WhatsApp social media

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discussion group.

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Some 55 members, during the relevant period, most of whom were tdachers

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at the Park View Educational Trust, and what it disclosed

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was a whole range of completely unacceptable attitudes.

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Misogyny, homophobia, discussing how to bring mord

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segregation into the school, disparaging remarks about British

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service personnel, scepticism about reports of the attack

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on Lee Rigby and the Boston bombing, and so on.

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A litany of intolerance.

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I think anyone would find it shocking that those people who have

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been entrusted with the card and education of children should

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hold those attitudes.

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If those kind of views were raised with myself, I would find them

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completely unacceptable.

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But that is not something that was being promoted

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at the school.

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They are not part of school policy.

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At one secular primary school, terms such as "white prostitute ,

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unsuitable for primary children s ears, were used on Friday

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assemblies, run exclusively by Muslim staff.

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At one secular secondary school staff told officials the call

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to prayer was broadcast over the playground using loudspdakers.

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In biology, students were told "evolution is not what we bdlieve".

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We do have Islamic assemblids, but they just teach you lessons

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like to be nice to one another, be nice to your parents, and so on.

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It's not like we have assault courses on how to make bombs

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and all sorts of stuff.

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He says that you could sit with the girls.

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You can, you can.

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You can, you can.

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But you can't, like, have a girlfriend or

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have a boyfriend.

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You can't do any of that.

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That's true, and in Islam, you can't have a girlfriend

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or boyfriend either.

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Yeah, but it's not an Islamic school.

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And it feels like one, does it?

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Yeah, it does feel like an Hslamic school, but is not supposed

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to be an Islamic school.

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It's an academy.

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We found that governors were narrowing the curricultm,

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intimidating staff, intimidating headteachers,

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to try and impose their own agenda and those schools, to introduce

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to try and impose their own agenda on those schools, to introdtce

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a faith-based curriculum in non-faith schools.

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So here, Alam is a pivotal figure. Some claim he's the leader of a plot

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to make schools more Islamic.

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I've not formally been labelled as an extremist.

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I was a Sunni hardliner, according to Peter Clarke.

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I'm an educationalist by profession, so the vast majority of contacts

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on the list that he's got this spider diagram on,

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there's nothing clandestine about any of those.

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Peter Clarke is trying to put across that he has

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unearthed all of these.

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Hello, Mr Alam, Mr Alam? Hello?

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Your answer is to deny everxthing.

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Is that still the case?

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I consider myself to be a person who, you know,

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who tried to make a contribttion, a voluntary contribution,

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to the well-being and success of children, and for that,

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I have been vilified.

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Well, Mr Alam has a bit of a difficulty here, doesn't he?

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He was the chairman of governors of that school for a

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considerable period of time.

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Now, either he did know about the attitudes held

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by his staff and displayed in that one sap group,

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by his staff and displayed in that WhatsApp group,

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or he didn't.

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If he did know, and didn't do anything about it,

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he is as culpable as they are.

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If he didn't know, then cle`rly he was ineffectual as a chahrman

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of governors and has no right to criticise anybody who makes

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observations about what is going on in his school.

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A second report, published today by Birmingham City Council,

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found some individuals were promoting Islamic practices,

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and it agreed that weaknessds in governance and a failure

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by the authorities to act on warnings had

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allowed this to happen.

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It is worth making the point that Birmingham City Council failed

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in their duty to these parents. And indeed...

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Birmingham City Council's lost half its workforce in the l`st eight

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years, so why didn't we spot the signs when we had them?

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Partly, we didn't do our jobs well enough, but also, partly,

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you have to recognise that the role of the local authority has been

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changing quite considerably over that time, and we're not

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the beast that we used to bd.

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Well, the Trojan Horse list, everybody now knows it was ` hoax.

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It was never written by Tahhr Alam.

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So I wasn't one of his governors and I wasn't one

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of his chair of governors.

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The Trojan Horse letter is a complete hoax.

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It is written by, you know, a headteacher, and it is wrhtten

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for the purposes of defending him or herself, and perhaps

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an element of revenge.

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It doesn't matter whether the letter was real or a ho`x.

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That's a huge red herring.

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The issue for me was whether what the letter

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was alleging was true, and we found that

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in many ways, it was.

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My reaction was that they didn't uncover a lot.

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I don't think they were bre`king the law, and I don't think

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that they were doing anything particularly wrong.

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I thought that what was on the WhatsApp, some

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of the views expressed there were really unpalatable.

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I don't think there was any excuse for that.

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But apart from that, I'm not sure it was anything that

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really struck me as, you know, totally outrageous

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or outwith the law.

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The accusations that they wdre encouraging children to prax...

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Well, the law requires them to pray in school, so where's

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the problem in that?

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There was an accusation, you know, the separation

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of boys from girls.

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Well, you know, English sochety itself has separated boys

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and girls in schools.

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We've got girls' schools, we've got boys' schools.

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The law allows an Islamic ethos in a school.

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Previously rated outstanding, Park View Academy in Alum Rock

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is now deemed to be inadequ`te.

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Now, if only when you begin raising the question that

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suddenly, Ofsted took...

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I don't know whether they took fright or what, but suddenlx,

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within a matter of a couple of years, the school is said

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to be a failing school, and I ask myself, do institttions

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change as quickly as that?

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They were outstanding schools on the basis of the progress

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and attainment measures that we used at that time.

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Because they had been judged to be outstanding and therefore not

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subject to further inspection, because of that outstanding grade,

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the governors saw that as a real opportunity to manipulate the system

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and to impose their agenda and their own narrow

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curriculum on the school.

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The school didn't change. Our curriculum didn't changd.

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Our practices didn't change.

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Our collective worship didn't change.

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But something else changed, and that was the political

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motivation, I think.

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I think the whole interventhon into our schools was motivated

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by Islamophobic intentions, and it came from the highest

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political office.

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They expected to find extrelist radicalisation leading

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to terrorist activity, and what they actually found

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was a religious faith overexerting itself slightly in order th`t

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schools reflected their relhgious practices and background,

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and they are not alone in doing that.

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Other faiths have done the same thing in other places.

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My concern is that we shouldn't be complacent, and we shouldn't believe

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that this sort of thing could not happen again.

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It could.

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And it will happen again, unless we are vigilant,

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unless the local authority, which is responsible

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for safeguarding and supporting headteachers in their schools,

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unless they take their job seriously, and our view

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here in Birmingham is that they're not taking their job

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seriously enough.

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They don't know what's happdning in individual schools.

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We've done everything that has been asked of us to shore

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up our strategies and to fix what happened.

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up our structures and to fix what happened.

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At the council, we have a ndw whistle-blowing procedure,

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and we regularly get whistld-blowing Commission, showing that people

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and we regularly get whistld-blowing coming in, showing that people

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are aware of that system and do know they can raise things in confidence

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and action will be taken.

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We already require independdnt schools, academies, and Fred Schools

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to respect British values.

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Now, we will consult on new rules that will strengthen the st`ndard

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further, requiring all thosd schools actively to promote British ideas.

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So this week, your teachers have been looking for children

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who demonstrate hope.

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Some children think, because their mum,

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dad, grandad, grandma, are from Pakistan originallx,

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they think they're Pakistanh, but they've got British passports.

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So we've done a lot of work on identity, but being proud to be

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but being proud to be a Brulmie being proud to be from Birmhngham,

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being proud to be British.

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So that's where British valtes come in, that there are some really great

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things about being British.

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So our ethos here has actually very little to do with religion

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It has to do with children, education, and we're quite firm that

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school is school, places of worship are places of worship.

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What has come out since the Trojan Horse letter

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became public totally vindicates what Michael's r`ising,

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and he has been very shabbily treated.

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I tried to continue in educ`tion, and I thought, fine, that's it.

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I've had enough, so I retrahned as an electrician and ran mx own

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electrical business for the next ten years to try and keep the wolf

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from the door.

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Had it not been for my very supportive wife, I would probably

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have been dead by now.

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Because I was very upset.

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I gave about 20 years of my life to governing bodies of two schools.

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And for it to be actually w`shed away as being "Muslim extrelism ,

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extremist, the only views are never held is that kids deserve

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extremist, the only views I've ever held is that kids deserve

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an outstanding level of education. So I do feel hurt.

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And I feel sorry and sad th`t Muslims have actually been

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frightened away from being teachers and being involved in education

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I didn't work for a year.

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Although I'm starting to rebuild my career again now,

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and have a job that I thorotghly enjoy, I'm nowhere near the level

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that I was of enjoying workhng with children every day,

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seeing them happy, because of the impact and work

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that you were doing.

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I have no regrets, really.

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I have no regrets, really.

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I am very proud of what we've achieved, for the children

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and for the community.

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That battle, really, for eqtality and dignity has to continue.

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I believe Islam is part and parcel of this country.

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Some people have difficulty with that.

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And then there is the wider political context of terrorhsm

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and so on, which is fuelling certain attitudes and certain intoldrances,

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but I think those things, as a society, we have to be able

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to work through that, I think.

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And there is no other soluthon.

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If you ask me, in summary, what happened, it's that sole

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governors behaved badly and inappropriately,

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that some teachers behaved badly and inappropriately,

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central government behaved unwisely, and I believe that

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the victims are not those pdople.

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The victims are the children and the community

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of East Birmingham.

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Hello, I'm Riz Lateef with your 90 second update.

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