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At the turn of the 20th century, Scotland's largest town was booming. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:07 | |
It was a hive of industry where more than 10,000 people worked every day, | 0:00:07 | 0:00:13 | |
making a product used the world over. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
We exported thread to the whole world. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
At one stage, they produced 90% of the world's sewing thread. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
For more than 100 years, the thread mills were the life and soul | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
of the town of Paisley. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
Paisley was thread and thread was Paisley, you know? | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
There was hardly a house in Paisley | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
didn't have somebody that was employed by the mills. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
Thread built the town and provided its people | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
with once-in-a-lifetime opportunities. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
It is one of the very first | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
industrial multinational companies. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
The company sent their workers far and wide. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
You had Germany, Brazil, Asia, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:06 | |
India, Pakistan. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
You heard of people going to these countries | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
that nobody would ever have dreamt they'd be able to go to. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
Where they often witnessed life-changing events. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
My father, he saw life under the Nazis in Germany. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
We had two military coups while we were there. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
But the glory days weren't to last | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
and eventually boom became bust. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:34 | |
It was just so sad. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
It was devastating. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:37 | |
It was a sad, sad day for Paisley. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
I think it devastated the town because what were you left with? | 0:01:40 | 0:01:45 | |
-NEWSREEL: -100 years ago, Benjamin Disraeli came out | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
with the immortal phrase, "Keep your eye on Paisley." | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
Prime ministers knew what they were talking about in those days | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
for this is no ordinary town. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
Until the 1980s, the town of Paisley had two huge mill complexes. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:17 | |
At their height they were the town's largest employer. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
-NEWSREEL: -It's the biggest town in Scotland | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
if you don't count the cities. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:27 | |
It was the thread capital of the world for 150 years. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
The thread industry became immensely important to Paisley | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
because it employed 11,000-12,000 people, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:45 | |
which was a huge number for a town of about 70,000 inhabitants. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
We used to run a book. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
The bet was on what colour the river would be today. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
Some days, it was bright yellow, some days it was purple, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
some days it was black. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
Every day it was a different colour. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
It was quite a surprise when there was no colour at all. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
The mills stopped here forever in 1993, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
but the people who worked in them have long memories. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
This stretch along here was Atlantic and Pacific, Clark's original mills. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:21 | |
And just at the trees here was a wee first aid station, which has gone. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
You used to run in there for an orange drink when you got a cold. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
Harry Green began his career in the thread mills | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
as an office boy in 1949 and ended up as an assistant manager. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
We are looking at the Mile End finishing mill. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
I ended my career in here in 1983 | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
after having completed 34 years with J&P Coats. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
That included starting at the head office in Glasgow | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
and finishing at the mills in Paisley, where it all began | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
many, many years ago. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
Ooh, good grief! | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
What a change. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:14 | |
Well, from what I remember, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
we used to come down West Road and go in the turning shop gate | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
along to my mill. And then I was up in the top flat in there | 0:04:22 | 0:04:28 | |
and that is the counting house. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
This is the counting house at Ferguslie Mills | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
and this is where I started work when I was 15. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
The last time I would be in the counting house | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
would probably be about 1973-ish. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:49 | |
Eleanor Clark worked in the mill for 39 years. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
Her jobs included personnel manager and editing the company newspaper. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:58 | |
She began her career as an office junior in this building, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:03 | |
which has been converted into flats. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
I can't believe this. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:06 | |
You know, it's quite unrecognisable. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
So different. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
These buildings are amongst a very few that remain | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
of what was once an enormous presence in the town. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
Number eight - twisting. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
And the gatehouse. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
That was the main gatehouse, the north gatehouse. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
The day I arrived, I came down, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
I came through that arch and this girl came through | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
and said she would take me. She brought me up here. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
Oh, there's the chimney. There's the chimney there. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
From my office, I could see up to the top of the chimney | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
and there was a hawk nested up there for years. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
MILL SIREN BLOWS | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
The mills provided jobs for the people of Paisley, known as Buddies, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:16 | |
for generations. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
Everywhere you went, everybody you met, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
"Oh, aye, you work in the mill. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:21 | |
"Oh, aye, I remember you. You work in the mill." | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
I mean, everybody knew | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
where you worked at that time. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:26 | |
I started in 1956 in the mills. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
I was 15 years old | 0:06:33 | 0:06:34 | |
and I started in a department called the turning shop. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
The turning shop made the wooden bobbin. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
There was possibly about 80 boys all between the ages of 15 to 20. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:48 | |
You grew up quick there. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:49 | |
I had been told by my mother to apply | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
to get into Coats' office. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
That was the thing to do. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
It was my mum that put the idea into my head. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
She says, "Well, we've all worked in the mill. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
"What about you? Why not go into the mill?" | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
When I got interviewed, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
I got sent for to say that as soon as I had left school, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
I could start on the Monday. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
So my mother said, "That's fine, you can start this Monday." | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
I started off as a management trainee with Coats | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
immediately after university | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
and there was definitely a feeling | 0:07:25 | 0:07:26 | |
that when you joined, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:27 | |
you were joining for life. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
I remember a friend of my mum saying, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
"Oh, Jean," she said, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
"That's just set for life | 0:07:35 | 0:07:36 | |
"when you're in the counting house in the mill." | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
I joined Coats in 1974, straight out of university. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:44 | |
I am the great-great-great-grandson of James Coats Sr, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:50 | |
who was the original founder | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
of the first factory, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:53 | |
the father of J&P Coats. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
The Paisley thread mills would ultimately be run | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
by one large company - J&P Coats. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
But their origins lay in a decades-long rivalry | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
between two prominent Paisley families - the Coats and the Clarks. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
They were fierce rivals, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
one at one end of Paisley and one at the other end. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
Paisley had long been a textile town and the area's weavers had risen | 0:08:23 | 0:08:28 | |
to prominence making intricate silk shawls | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
with that unique pattern which came to bear the town's name. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
Paisley pattern was the predominant motif on the Paisley shawls | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
and the Paisley shawl was internationally famous. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
It was a very complex cloth, | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
so it required a very high level of skill and Paisley, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
because it already had a well-established weaving industry, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
they were able to take on this industry. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
Both the Coats and the Clarks worked in the weaving trade | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
and although ultimately it would be the Coats family | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
who came out on top, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:05 | |
in the early days, the Clarks were the innovators. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
Many people tried to make a cotton sewing thread, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
but with no success for years and years and years and the Clarks, | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
who were the brilliant family, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
although, as a Coats, I'm reluctant to say this, but it's true, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
they happened upon it | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
because of Napoleon's blockade of the UK in 1806. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:30 | |
The Napoleonic Wars had shut down trade between Britain and France, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:37 | |
leaving the weavers of Paisley | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
without their most crucial raw material - silk. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
The Clarks made their living providing silk twine to weavers. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:47 | |
The blockade threatened their livelihood, | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
but it also presented them with an opportunity. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
There was no way for them to continue providing this product | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
cos it wasn't available anywhere within the UK. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
So they tried to make a substitute. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
It was the early days of the Industrial Revolution | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
and the textile industry was reaping the benefits of new machinery. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:11 | |
And the way of making cotton yarn had been revolutionised. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
So, then, a huge abundance of very fine cotton yarn | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
became available to the weavers. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
In spite of the blockade, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
Britain was managing to import some raw cotton from the colonies. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
The Clarks realised that this was a solution to their problem. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
So they were able to happen upon a stronger, smoother product, | 0:10:34 | 0:10:39 | |
no different, really, from sewing thread. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
So they logically started selling some cotton sewing thread | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
just to what they called their more adventurous customers. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
Within a decade of the Clarks | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
creating the first cotton sewing thread, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
more than 20 thread-making companies had sprung up in the town. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
The thread had initially been a producer industry | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
to be turned into something else. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
It became the end product, a consumer business. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
The invention of cotton sewing thread coincided with the arrival | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
of one of the most significant domestic innovations | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
of the 19th century. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
Bingo, the sewing machine appears and, hallelujah, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
it's all time to get rich and happy and indeed, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
both the Clarks and the Coats prospered enormously | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
from the invention of the sewing machine. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
The advent of the sewing machine | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
meant the demand for thread was huge and growing. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
The thread business just got bigger and bigger | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
and bigger and bigger and bigger. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
The rival families were quick to establish their positions in town. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:55 | |
To the east, the Clarks built their first mill in 1817, known as Anchor. | 0:11:55 | 0:12:01 | |
The Coats family followed suit in 1826, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
constructing their first mill south-west of town at Ferguslie. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
At their height, both sites grew to more than 50 acres each. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
It looked like a whole town. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
I mean, Ferguslie Mill was massive. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
You'd probably get about ten football pitches in there. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
And I used to think, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
"It's massive, absolutely massive". | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
You were a wee dot compared to all these people. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
Each site had multiple buildings with different functions, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
such as dyeing and spinning. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
In the largest mills, whole floors, or flats, as they were known, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
were dedicated to winding, twisting, packaging and polishing. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:50 | |
And there was a healthy rivalry | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
between the workers at either end of town. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
Ferguslie started off with the bales of cotton, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
right through till the twisted thread, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
and then Anchor finished off. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
And the ladies in the Anchor used to think | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
that they were a wee bit upper than the ladies from Ferguslie. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
They were the toffs in Anchor. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
We were the plebs. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
It's true, yes, it's true. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:20 | |
-NEWSREEL: -This is now the biggest thread-making concern | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
in the United Kingdom. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
Over 4,000 people are employed in this Paisley mill. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
I'd never heard noise like it in my life. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
Smelly, dirty, oily, greasy. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
And it was, like, as if the whole war had started on the one building | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
with the noise of these machines. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
Really noisy, clackety-clack. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
Just think of the clack, clack, clack clack, clack... | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
THEY MIMIC LOUD INDUSTRIAL NOISES | 0:13:54 | 0:14:00 | |
I think because of the noise, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
you were more inclined to watch people's mouths. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
They lip-read, you know? | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
You were here with this thing going round like a windmill | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
and the girl in front of you, she'd mouth... | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
-SHE MOUTHS: -I'm going to the toilet. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
And they always talked with their back to the supervisor | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
because some of them used to lip-read, too, you know? | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
I was only in the job about a month and I heard a scream. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
And you could hear it above the machines. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
And it was this girl that had got her hair caught in the thing and... | 0:14:31 | 0:14:36 | |
It took her scalp off the side. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
So all the machines stopped then. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
You didn't want to know about it | 0:14:42 | 0:14:43 | |
because the next time, it could be you. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
-NEWSREEL: -People are not very conscious of thread. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
They think about fashion, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
but this is only one of the industries we serve | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
and in any case, who notices the thread in a gorgeous dress? | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
We often forget how important thread is | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
because we don't see it. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
-NEWSREEL: -The fibres go through a number of processes. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
They're opened, carded, drawn and spun. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
People never think about thread. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
It just holds your clothes together. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:23 | |
But, yes, there are special threads | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
like the thread you put into baseballs, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
meat-tying thread, tampon thread, tea bag thread, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
things you never think about. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
-NEWSREEL: -Look! Eight fibres are drawn into this machine to make one | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
and to even out differences between them. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
There was a great slogan that the Coats did at one time which was, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
"Imagine a world without thread". | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
Now, look! | 0:15:45 | 0:15:46 | |
-WOMAN SCREAMS -Oh, no, what's going on? | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
My apron and tea towels just disappeared! | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
Oh! | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
Yes, it is an important product | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
which everybody takes for granted. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:01 | |
-NEWSREEL: -Modern spinning and winding machines | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
are mostly looked after by girls. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
The Paisley mills were built and owned by eminent men, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
but from their very beginnings, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
they were powered by the women and girls of Paisley. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
At one time, the town was said to have seven women for every man. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
Well, initially, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
the people who produced and worked on the machines were all ladies, | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
and the men were, like, engineering associates like that, service men, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
as I was doing. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
You wouldn't have men spinning, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:36 | |
for example. That was a woman's job. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
Children did the sort of ancillary services, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
the sort of support services, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:42 | |
mending threads and things like that. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
But women were the main workforce by the early 20th century | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
and the men primarily were overseers. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
The foreman was always a man, yeah, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
and that was basically it. The foreman was a man. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
It was kind of a macho company because women only got so far. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:03 | |
But thread would not be made without women, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
because it was all women that made it. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
MILL SIREN BLOWS | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
Throughout the 19th and 20th centuries, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
the sound of the mill siren would send thousands of mill girls | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
onto the streets. Today, the last of them are long since retired. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:23 | |
Well, I actually started with the intention | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
of only working for three months to buy a bigger caravan. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
Joyce, Josephine, Gina and Ellen all worked together in Ferguslie Mills | 0:17:33 | 0:17:39 | |
and have been friends for more than 40 years. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
It was the size of everything when I walked in to it. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
It was massive and I felt tiny. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
And I thought, "Gosh, am I to work in here? Will they find me again?" | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
But this nice man came up and said to me, "Start here". | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
And there I was and I felt as tall as they beams. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
-I felt great. -We made our own wages. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
We were doffers, so we were on piecework. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
A doffer's job was to remove the spools of thread from spindles | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
once they were fully wound. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:14 | |
Speed was essential, but so was your tension | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
because if your tension wasn't accurate, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
then all the ends went up in the air and you were in trouble. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
This group of women worked the twilight shift. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
What they earned was based solely on the amount of thread they processed. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
Piecework was where, if your machines were running, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
so was your pay. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
Women who were married that were on piecework | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
because they could make more than their husbands | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
in the jobs they were outside. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:44 | |
In the past, women had to leave their jobs to marry, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
with only single women allowed to work in the mills, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
giving us the word spinster. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
It was only later that some jobs | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
were deemed appropriate for married women. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
Well, we know that, you know, just after the First World War, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
half of all women working in Paisley are working in textiles, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:07 | |
which gives you a sense of how large an employer it was | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
and how crucial it was to the economy of Paisley in that time. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
You would have had high unemployment among men | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
and especially in the 1930s after the Depression. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
So, you know, women's employment was important | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
in keeping families afloat. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:23 | |
I enjoyed my independence, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
the mill gave me that. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:27 | |
I was so excited at the thought that I could go out to work. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:32 | |
And I loved the independence it gave me, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
of having my money instead of my husband's money in my hand. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
Your wage from the mill was a lifeline at times. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
-Aye, that's right. -Actually, your wages from the mill built Paisley. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
I mean, we got hospitals and we | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
Look at the buildings that they built because... | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
That was Coats, but Coats had nothing else but money. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
They earned money because we worked. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
In the 19th century, as the Paisley thread industry grew, | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
so the rivalry between the two family businesses intensified. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
The Coatses, because they were managerially more adept | 0:20:05 | 0:20:10 | |
and more dedicated to quality than the Clarks, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
simply took over and dominated the trade very quickly. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:19 | |
So that by 1840, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:20 | |
they were the largest manufacturer of cotton thread in Paisley. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:25 | |
Although successful, the Clark family were known | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
to be a fractious bunch, giving the far more unified Coatses the edge. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:34 | |
James and Peter, the J&P of the company name, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
looked after logistics and accounting respectively, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
but two of their younger brothers | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
also took key roles within the company. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
Thomas, who was my great-great-grandfather, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
was an engineer and Andrew was an entrepreneur and a lawyer. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:53 | |
He didn't really join the company business at all, | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
but he was the engine that made it work. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
Andrew Coats was absolutely indispensable. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
Andrew Coats sailed to America in 1839 to seek his fortune. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:08 | |
The family business had already begun selling | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
to the American market, but it would be his intervention | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
which would be the making of J&P Coats. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
There were people who tried to copy their product, | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
pretending it was theirs and Andrew Coats fought these cases | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
in the law courts of the United States. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
He took the company from a point | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
where they were selling 45% of their product in the USA, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
which was with their agents, to ten years later, | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
selling up to 85%. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
In the 1850s, the Americans introduced high import taxes. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:48 | |
The time had come for Coats to begin making thread abroad. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
Their Paisley rivals, the Clarks, beat them to it, | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
building mills in New Jersey in 1866, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
but Coats weren't far behind and, soon after, | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
established what would be the first of many foreign mills | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
in the state of Rhode Island. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
MILL SIREN BLOWS | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
Today, almost all of Coats' former mills | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
in the town of Pawtucket are still standing. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
Oh, my goodness, me. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
This is huge. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
Brian Coats, the great-great-great-grandson | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
of the company's founder, has never seen them before. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
On this side, we have the first phase, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
with mills two, three and four. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
Industrial historian Matt Kierstead has agreed to give him a tour. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
We are on about a 50 acre, yeah, | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
I would call it a campus or even a small industrial city. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
That's... That's close to the size | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
-of the original Ferguslie Mill in Scotland. -OK. -At its height. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
-Yeah, yeah. -Yeah. Erm, this is an illustrated brochure | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
which I pulled out of the archives | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
and I have got a map that they did... | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
-Wow! -When they originally built it. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:06 | |
So number one mill must have been | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
where that extension has been built there, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
which must have been built at a later time. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
Although the American site quickly grew | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
to be as large as the one at Ferguslie, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
production here started small, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
with just one building spooling thread imported from Paisley. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
And you can start to see now on the back side of these buildings, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
the attached engine room. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
The boilers and the steam engine would have been in there. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
And then in that little connecting building | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
would have been belt drive or shafts. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
It is... I mean, I now see, this is... | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
It's similar in size to Ferguslie. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
In those early years, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
these vast buildings were mostly staffed | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
with skilled workers from the UK, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
with adverts placed in newspapers in Paisley, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
promising a new life in a new country. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
I mean, my first impression of this is that it is... | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
It is a taller roof | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
and it's lighter than anything I saw in Paisley. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
So each of these now empty bays would just be full of machines | 0:24:13 | 0:24:18 | |
with little aisles for the operatives to... | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
-Correct. -Service them and... | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah. -So these were roving frames | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
and they would run in that direction | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
and the shafts that drove them would be up, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
going that way across the roof. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:32 | |
But that's what it would've looked like | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
and it would be extremely noisy. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
-Yes. -Extremely noisy. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
MACHINERY WHIRS AND RATTLES LOUDLY | 0:24:38 | 0:24:43 | |
Just got a glimpse of Ferguslie before it was all knocked down | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
and I always wanted to go back and look at it with a little bit more | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
of the wisdom of age, let's put it that way. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
It's nice to be able to see buildings that look... | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
They're not the same, but they're similar | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
and the scale is very similar. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
MILL SIREN BLOWS | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
You start to imagine what it must've been like | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
when there were people in them and the machines were all running | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
and I would've enjoyed being a fly on the wall | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
and just seeing what it looked like. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
So, yeah, it gives me kind of goose bumps. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
Within 20 years of being built, Coats' American mills had become | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
one of the largest manufacturing plants in the United States. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
Basically, the United States was a kind of cash register | 0:25:31 | 0:25:36 | |
for the wider organisation. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
The success of the American enterprise | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
was a huge turning point for the company. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
Expansion into Europe came next and manufacturing abroad | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
set them on the path to world domination. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
A lot of the money that was made in that way was invested in Paisley. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
The Coats and Clark families became very rich out of this, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
but they were also very public spirited. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
A lot of their money went into civic buildings | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
and the community in Paisley. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
It was the making of the town. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:15 | |
You just cannot deny the scale and scope of Coats' generosity. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:37 | |
Everywhere you look in Paisley, it's there. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
It's there in the Clark Memorial Town Hall, it's in the mills, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
it's there in Coats Memorial Church. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:49 | |
What a wonderful edifice that is to elevate the minds | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
of the people of Paisley in the town in which they lived. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
Sir Peter Coats, he built the Paisley Museum and the library. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:03 | |
Thomas, his brother, my great-great-grandfather, | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
built the observatory. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
The building we're sitting in, the observatory, | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
which is the major feature | 0:27:13 | 0:27:14 | |
of the skyline at Paisley coming from the north. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
The individual buildings are, at lowest, good-quality, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
at the best, of exceptional quality, | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
and they're designed to fit in with each other. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
The Coats and the Clarks were socially minded employers, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
known for their paternalism, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
and it wasn't just buildings they invested in - | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
it was people, too. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
Way back, their welfare was incredible. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
They even had penny baths for people | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
in the days when people wouldn't have baths in their house, you know? | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
Both mills had first aid centres, | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
which was very good for tea and sympathy | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
and if you wanted to know the local news, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
you went to the first aid centre. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:10 | |
I applied to join the auxiliary fire service that J&P Coats had | 0:28:12 | 0:28:18 | |
and they supplied you with a house. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
So for a young 21-year-old | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
like myself and my wife | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
to get something like this | 0:28:24 | 0:28:25 | |
for the princely sum of £5 a month rent... | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
Both in Ferguslie and Anchor's, they had day sports grounds. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:33 | |
I played hockey there. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
I played hockey until I was 37. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
They had very successful cricket teams, football teams. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
There were two thriving bowls clubs. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:47 | |
They had sewing classes and they had keep fit classes. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
There was a thriving drama club. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
They put on a show every year. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
That was fun. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:57 | |
Every year, they would have an annual outing, | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
which was a fantastic undertaking. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
10,000 people moving. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:12 | |
They would hire whole trains to take people off to places like Braemar | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
or Arbroath or wherever it might be. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
They had bands and there's a fabulous photograph of them all, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:26 | |
you know, with their moustaches and whatnot. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
It was the central focus of Paisley social life. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:38 | |
Well, your night outs, you know, we used to go to the Anchor Rec. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
That was a good place. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
The Anchor Recreation Club was the hub | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
of the mill workers' social life. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
And they had dances every Saturday night | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
and my brother and I started a band and called it Maverick, | 0:29:52 | 0:29:57 | |
and we played over there. | 0:29:57 | 0:29:58 | |
And the guys were talking about going to London | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
to try and get famous, if you like, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
and... I stopped it and that, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
and a certain guy called Gerry Rafferty took my place. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
I personally didn't like him. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:13 | |
I didn't think he was very good. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
Shows you how much I know! | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
This is the Anchor Recreation Club. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:28 | |
I met my wife-to-be here. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
Her brothers and the rest of our friends always had to make her | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
dance in the first half, and there were six of us, | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
so she got 12 dances in a night, at least. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
And it was teetotal in those days, | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
so as you go into the main reception, | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
the bar was across there, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:46 | |
and it was all fizzy drinks. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
You could get crisps later on at night, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
but not to start with at 7.30. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
And then ten o'clock, you know, all out, the doors are shut. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
Great memories. Great place. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
Those were the days. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:01 | |
Right from the start, the Coats family were known as good employers, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
who valued the wellbeing of their workers. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
In 1887, Coats built a school for their young female employees. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:20 | |
It was known as the Half-Time School. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
Basically, what this was all about | 0:31:26 | 0:31:27 | |
is if you've got a healthy workforce, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
they'll work harder. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:30 | |
So it's couched in terms of, you know, employee... | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
employee welfare, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
but, really, it's to improve the efficiency of the business. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
I mean, they were very clear that they were doing well | 0:31:38 | 0:31:42 | |
because they had good people, and the more they looked after people, | 0:31:42 | 0:31:47 | |
the more return they got for their businesses. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
At that time, young children who were working, 12, 13, 14-year-olds, | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
had to spend time at school. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
Most of them would walk, and so rather than lose that time, | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
Coats thought it would be a good idea to have a school | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
on the premises where people could go and they had full-time teachers, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
they had nursing facilities. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
Today, the once magnificent Half-Time School building | 0:32:15 | 0:32:19 | |
lies in ruins, but from the time it opened in 1887 | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
until the introduction of compulsory full-time education, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:27 | |
thousands of young mill girls passed through its doors. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
Both Coats and Clarks had continued to expand, | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
but the late 19th century was a time of great turmoil. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:46 | |
Faced with strikes and recession, merger became inevitable. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
In 1896, the two great Paisley rivals | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
finally agreed to join forces. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
The new company, now known as J&P Coats, | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
was the largest thread manufacturer in the world. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
I would maintain that it is one | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
of the very first industrial multinational companies. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:19 | |
Yes, the East India Company and so on, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
which are essentially trading companies, | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
but Coats was manufacturing overseas from a very early stage. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
By 1910, Paisley was home to the third-largest company on the planet, | 0:33:30 | 0:33:36 | |
second only to US Steel and Standard Oil, | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
with factories in around 40 countries. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
People travelled all over the world, literally, for Coats. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
They were dominant in Russia. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
They were becoming dominant in Europe. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
And by about the middle 1930s, | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
they had 35,000 employees worldwide. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
When Coats started to manufacture overseas, | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
what was done in Paisley was copied by everybody else, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
so that Paisley remained the engine that drove everything. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:15 | |
With mills in locations as far-flung as El Salvador, Japan, | 0:34:18 | 0:34:24 | |
India and Russia, | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
Coats' employees were travelling far and wide | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
to train foreign workers long before the advent of aviation. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
If you were wanting to see the world, the two quickest options, | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
if you were a Paisley Buddy, were to join the army or join Coats. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
A large number of Paisley people went out there | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
from the mills in Paisley, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
right down to mill girl level, | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
because nobody had worked in a thread mill before. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:51 | |
That changed their lives quite dramatically, | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
I would think, you know? | 0:34:54 | 0:34:55 | |
Because they saw a totally different world. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
We were, kind of, put in the sausage machine for being sent somewhere, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
and "somewhere" could be anywhere, | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
and I was eventually sent to Brazil. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
Three and a half years after I started, | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
I headed off to my first job, which was in Peru. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
My first real job was in Colombia, South America. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:21 | |
I got sent to Personnel, and they said, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
"Would you like to go to Peru?" | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
The biggest change was the food. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
You don't ask what it is - you just eat it and enjoy it. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:34 | |
We arrived just at the start of the 1970 World Cup | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
and we were billeted in a hotel downtown, and, of course, | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
Brazil were sensational in that World Cup and won it, | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
and the whole city erupted into a three-day carnival. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
You would go Glasgow-London, London-Madrid,... | 0:35:50 | 0:35:55 | |
Madrid to Lisbon, Lisbon to Dakar... | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
Caracas, Bogota... | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
Cartagena to Quito. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
Quito-Guayaquil, Guayaquil-Lima. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
So that it was a real hoppity-hop kind of journey. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
34 and a half hours. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:11 | |
Every time we landed, we were given a wee ticket | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
to go and get a drink. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
It was an interesting culture, | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
because they still spoke elements of Paisley | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
on the mill floor, and words survived into the local argot, | 0:36:24 | 0:36:29 | |
like "umnyaffee" turns out to be a foreman, as a wee nyaff. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:35 | |
Working abroad, | 0:36:40 | 0:36:41 | |
Coats employees often got caught up in life-changing world events. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:46 | |
Working in South America was an interesting experience. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
In Venezuela, we had two military coups while we were there. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:53 | |
I can remember the personnel manager | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
calling me up at four o'clock in the morning | 0:36:55 | 0:36:56 | |
and saying, "Don't be alarmed, | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
"but there is a coup going on at the moment. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
"Stay at home and wait till I call you." | 0:37:00 | 0:37:01 | |
My grandfather had worked in the mill. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
He was a foreman. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
At the turn of the century, he was actually sent to Russia. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
They were opening a mill there. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
My mother had an aunt, and she was a... | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
what they called a mistress, but that's a teacher, you know? | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
And she was in the Russian mills out there | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
and she had to... | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
They had all to pack very quickly when the revolution started. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
They lost the Russian mills in the revolution. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:31 | |
They lost Poland, Estonia, Latvia, | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
France, Germany, Italy, Spain because of the Civil War... | 0:37:34 | 0:37:40 | |
During the war, they lost complete contact | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
with all the mills in Eastern Europe and in Germany and Austria | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
and a lot of them were actually converted | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
to making product for the German army. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
Well, these are the prewar passports of my father, | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
covering the year 1935 to 1948. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:03 | |
Ken's father, William Matheson, worked for Coats all his life. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:10 | |
Starting as an office junior at the age of 13, | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
he worked his way up through the ranks | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
and ended up travelling the world as a cost accountant, | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
visiting around 30 countries in his career. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
In those days, you went in or out of a country | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
and you got your passport stamped. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:26 | |
He was hardly in any one location | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
or any one country for more than three weeks. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
In the mid-1930s, | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
William Matheson was sent to install a standard costing system | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
in the mills of Eastern Europe. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:40 | |
My father was based near Vienna, where the Austrian mills were, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
and he was doing the installation of the system in Austria, | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
Czechoslovakia, Bratislava... | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
So my father was in and out of Germany a lot. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
So he saw life in... | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
under the Nazis in Germany. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
On the 12th of March 1938, German tanks rolled into Vienna. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:05 | |
The day that he was told to get out of Bratislava and Vienna | 0:39:05 | 0:39:10 | |
and come home was the day that Hitler actually arrived in Vienna. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
-CHANTING: -Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! | 0:39:19 | 0:39:20 | |
My father got a taxi to the street where they lived, | 0:39:20 | 0:39:24 | |
and it was a little cul-de-sac of flats, | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
and there were swastika banners hanging off all of the balconies, | 0:39:27 | 0:39:32 | |
except their flat, which was hanging with my brother's nappies. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
So it was, "Get those down right away and pack what you can get," | 0:39:36 | 0:39:41 | |
and they left everything else. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
-CHANTING: -Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
They drove through the streets ahead of Hitler's procession | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
and the streets were thronged with thousands, | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
hundreds of thousands of people, | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
and they were driving down the route of the motorcade | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
just in time to get away with it. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
That's what they saw coming out of Austria that day. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
Operating abroad was challenging, | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
particularly during times of conflict, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
but Coats had been smart | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
and, although they lost mills during the Second World War, | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
they managed to get back on their feet pretty quickly. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
Coats had been really brilliant | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
at looking after their proprietorial rights, you know, | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
their trademarks, their patents, their title deeds, | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
everything that proved their ownership of property | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
in a particular country. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
By a lot of judicious hiding of things, | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
they actually managed to get back up and running quite quickly. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
They got out of Hungary and Czechoslovakia, for instance, | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
with all of their title deeds, all of their property things. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
They actually got themselves back in the game in a lot of countries | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
where they had basically written it all off. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
That hour before you started was crucial, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
because the kids to be home prompt. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
They were changed out their school uniforms, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
their homework was started... | 0:41:10 | 0:41:11 | |
Well, you had outside stairs to scrub as well | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
and you had to put your chalk down the side of your close. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
What year was that, the year dot? | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
She's older than us. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:20 | |
# I am 16, going on... # | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
Look, I'm 84. Come on, I... | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
But there was a good social side to working in the mill | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
because there was always somebody had a catalogue going, | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
an Avon book... | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
And menages, there was menages running. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
It was... It was quite a good social scene. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
In a strict working environment where men ruled the roost, | 0:41:38 | 0:41:43 | |
there was one place where the women were in charge. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
On a Friday especially was a different day for the ladies, | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
because that was the day, the weekend was looming, | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
so they disappeared, | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
and when I first started, I used to wonder where are they all went, | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
but they were all in the toilets getting their hair done. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
The atmosphere in the place was brilliant. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:02 | |
When it came to the weekend, we were all ready to go out, | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
finish on a Friday. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
We went out into the cloakroom. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:08 | |
We were getting our hair done. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
We were getting our eyebrows plucked already, and our rollers in, | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
all ready for the weekend, | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
the dancing and all that, I mean, it was great. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
You could get your hair cut in the toilet. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
There was this girl on this particular day, going out, | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
everybody's shouting. The machines went off, | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
and they went, "Good night, Willie!" | 0:42:26 | 0:42:27 | |
And he said, "Aye, you forgot to get the rest of your hair cut." | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
She'd forgot when she was walking out, she'd got the right side cut, | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
which was into the machines, but when she came out, it was the... | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
She'd forgot the opposite side. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
That's where we got our education. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
I couldn't believe the things that folks spoke about. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
Unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
And these women that bravely walked into the toilets | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
with a potato and a needle and got their ears pierced. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
Oh, yes, their ears pierced. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
So you'd be in the toilets and you'd say, | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
"Are you going to Barrowland this week?" | 0:43:03 | 0:43:04 | |
"Yes, I am." "Do us a favour. Gonnae show us how to do the Creep? | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
And this was, you did two steps to that side, two steps to that side, | 0:43:10 | 0:43:14 | |
and then you dragged your right leg. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:16 | |
So it looked as if you had a bad leg, so it was called the Creep. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:20 | |
So this was you in the toilets, | 0:43:20 | 0:43:21 | |
and you were dancing and showing them the new thing about the Creep, | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
or else it was the Twist and whatever it was. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
They had such a lot of dance halls in Paisley, | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
so it didn't matter where you went in Paisley, | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
there was always a mill girl. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:36 | |
The town was buzzing with all these people working | 0:43:36 | 0:43:38 | |
and they had a lot of money to spend. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:41 | |
-NEWSREEL: -Paisley has the second-lowest level | 0:43:50 | 0:43:52 | |
of unemployment in Scotland. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:54 | |
Only oil and fish-rich Aberdeen can employ more of its people. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:58 | |
In the 1960s, Paisley was thriving. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 | |
As well as the thread mills, | 0:44:02 | 0:44:03 | |
other big employers included the Hillman car factory at Linwood | 0:44:03 | 0:44:07 | |
and food producers Brown & Paulson. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
Paisley was a good growing town at that time | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
because there was a lot of money. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:15 | |
Paisley girls were always well-dressed. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
Oh, Paisley was great. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:20 | |
Paisley in the '60s and that was superb, | 0:44:20 | 0:44:24 | |
and it was just a place to be. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:26 | |
People would come on holiday Mondays from Glasgow to Paisley | 0:44:26 | 0:44:30 | |
because it was such a good place to shop. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:32 | |
Good-quality gents shops that a lot of my generation will remember. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:38 | |
There was John Collier's. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:39 | |
There was Hepworth's. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:40 | |
There was Burton's. There was Jackson's. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:43 | |
There'd be a furniture shop. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:45 | |
Maybe bicycles or... | 0:44:45 | 0:44:46 | |
There was that right along. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
Industry had allowed the town to flourish. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
But by the '70s, like the rest of industrial Scotland, | 0:44:56 | 0:45:00 | |
Paisley was in decline. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:02 | |
The car plant at Linwood had begun laying off thousands of workers | 0:45:02 | 0:45:06 | |
and would eventually close. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
There were many more job losses on the horizon | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
and the mills were not immune. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:15 | |
Somewhere about the '50s into the '60s, there was a, kind of, | 0:45:15 | 0:45:20 | |
a personnel edict that top-level management | 0:45:20 | 0:45:24 | |
would be recruited from universities, | 0:45:24 | 0:45:26 | |
rather than through the traditional mill pattern | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
where the bright folk in the mill could actually progress. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
That stifled people who actually knew how to make thread | 0:45:32 | 0:45:36 | |
from getting to the positions of managing a mill that makes thread. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:40 | |
I don't know who the managers in the top brass were in Coats, you know, | 0:45:40 | 0:45:45 | |
after a time. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:46 | |
Times had changed | 0:45:47 | 0:45:49 | |
and the family were no longer the major shareholders in the company. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:53 | |
Global capitalism had sent textiles in Britain into a downward spiral | 0:45:53 | 0:45:58 | |
and Paisley would be hit hard. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
Through the '20s and '30s, Coats developed hugely in Europe. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:06 | |
Through the '50s and early '60s, | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
Coats developed hugely in Latin America. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:13 | |
So the potential for export from Paisley was being undermined. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:18 | |
So the ethos of the company had completely changed | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
from being about locations and loyalties, as well as profitability, | 0:46:23 | 0:46:30 | |
to being about the maximisation of profit. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
Coats had been pioneers of globalised working, | 0:46:37 | 0:46:41 | |
manufacturing abroad long before it was the norm. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:44 | |
For their Paisley workforce, | 0:46:44 | 0:46:46 | |
the years of exporting their skills overseas was about to backfire. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:50 | |
That's just been the effects of, sort of, globalisation, | 0:46:50 | 0:46:54 | |
in the sense that it became cheaper to move production abroad, | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
and, I mean, the whole of Scotland suffered. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
I always felt that's what killed them off, | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
because they were making it cheaper abroad. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
Well, this is what I was thinking. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
If they're taking the machines over to there, | 0:47:07 | 0:47:10 | |
instead of sending their cotton stuff to us, | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
we're not going to have a mill. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:14 | |
Coats had begun buying up other textile companies, | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
joining with familiar names such as Viyella and Patons, | 0:47:18 | 0:47:22 | |
in an attempt to maximise profits and, at the same time, | 0:47:22 | 0:47:26 | |
create work for the town which had made their fortune, | 0:47:26 | 0:47:30 | |
but it was to be in vain. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:32 | |
The actual mill buildings were 19th-century buildings. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:37 | |
Fast forward 100 years, and they're kind of not fit for purpose. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:42 | |
Because of the demise of the domestic business, | 0:47:42 | 0:47:48 | |
it became clear that this huge Paisley engine couldn't be fed. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:55 | |
It was imploding in on itself and it became obvious after a time | 0:47:57 | 0:48:01 | |
that something had to be closed, | 0:48:01 | 0:48:02 | |
and indeed Ferguslie was the first place to go. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
In December 1983, the vast Ferguslie mills were closed for good, | 0:48:08 | 0:48:14 | |
and the once 10,000-strong workforce | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
had now shrunk to around a fifth of that size. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
The workers who kept their jobs were moved to the mills at Anchor. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:27 | |
There was always a big meeting of the managers every year | 0:48:28 | 0:48:31 | |
to see how the company was doing, | 0:48:31 | 0:48:33 | |
and that was followed by a meeting of the assistant managers, | 0:48:33 | 0:48:36 | |
and I think there was about 18 of us all went to a meeting, | 0:48:36 | 0:48:40 | |
and this director, you know, "Good morning." | 0:48:40 | 0:48:43 | |
Nothing was said. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:45 | |
He went through all the figures. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:47 | |
No questions. Then we just walked out | 0:48:47 | 0:48:49 | |
and the following month, we got our redundancies. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:52 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -How did you feel? | 0:48:53 | 0:48:55 | |
Rotten. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:56 | |
The worst moment of my life was the time when Ferguslie shut. | 0:48:56 | 0:49:01 | |
Ferguslie, I kind of grew up there from when I was 15 till I was 40. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:06 | |
And when we were told that the mill was closing down, I was crying. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:12 | |
You think your life's over when it closes down, you know what I mean? | 0:49:12 | 0:49:14 | |
You thought, "What am I going to do now?" | 0:49:14 | 0:49:16 | |
I was told I would be made redundant in 18 months | 0:49:16 | 0:49:20 | |
and I was literally kind of last in situ at Ferguslie Mills. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:25 | |
I was 38 when I was made redundant | 0:49:25 | 0:49:30 | |
and I felt demoralised, totally demoralised. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:34 | |
I actually did hand over the cheques to a lot of them, you know. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:40 | |
I mean, one day, I remember it was... | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
I think it was about 40 men went out at a dyeworks | 0:49:42 | 0:49:47 | |
and you knew a lot of them would never get a job for ages, | 0:49:47 | 0:49:50 | |
if at all, you know? | 0:49:50 | 0:49:52 | |
You went home and felt like hitting your head off the wall, | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
you know. It really, really got to you. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:57 | |
Everybody was a bag of nerves. | 0:49:57 | 0:50:00 | |
What happened was you would get a phone call | 0:50:00 | 0:50:03 | |
saying come in on a certain day and date and you'll know your fate. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:07 | |
And they took us in one at a time like an execution, | 0:50:07 | 0:50:11 | |
and they told us individually, "You've got a job. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:14 | |
"You've no' got a job." | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
And some took it really bad, kicking chairs and what have you, | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
so when I got called in, I was told, luckily, I had a job, you know? | 0:50:19 | 0:50:24 | |
Of course, they were asking me, and they're saying, | 0:50:24 | 0:50:26 | |
"Congratulations," but probably saying, "Oh, that's one less." | 0:50:26 | 0:50:29 | |
It was a sad, sad feeling. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
I remember when I was leaving where I was | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
with some of the people that I worked with, it was quite emotional. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:38 | |
And I remember the last day I was there, I got to the top | 0:50:40 | 0:50:44 | |
and I opened the door and I stood and I looked back and I went away | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
and that was it, the beginning of the end. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
MACHINERY WHIRS AND RATTLES LOUDLY | 0:50:50 | 0:50:52 | |
Those of us who were involved in the organisation of it, I think, | 0:51:00 | 0:51:05 | |
would say we did as much as we could. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
I suppose they held on to hope that Anchor would still survive | 0:51:08 | 0:51:11 | |
and it always rang in my ears when we were told | 0:51:11 | 0:51:13 | |
we were getting a job in Anchor. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:15 | |
The guys in Ferguslie were saying, "Oh, you'll no' last ten years." | 0:51:15 | 0:51:19 | |
And that's exactly how long it did last, ten years. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:22 | |
Ferguslie's closure was to be a portent of things to come. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:28 | |
Ultimately, the decision had to be taken, you know, really, | 0:51:28 | 0:51:33 | |
there isn't a long-term future for Paisley. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
Redundancies had continued, | 0:51:39 | 0:51:41 | |
and by the early 1990s, the workforce left at Anchor | 0:51:41 | 0:51:45 | |
had dwindled to just a few hundred people. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:48 | |
The decision was finally made | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
to close the last of the Paisley thread mills. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:55 | |
From being a 15-year-old coming out of school | 0:51:57 | 0:52:01 | |
and not really knowing what work was all about, | 0:52:01 | 0:52:06 | |
I ended up more or less putting out the lights in Anchor Mills. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:12 | |
It was such a big operation in Paisley. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
The whole town, at that time, was kind of largely dependent on Coats. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:23 | |
A lot of the wee bleachworks and dyeworks up the road, | 0:52:24 | 0:52:27 | |
they all closed. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:28 | |
On a Friday, one of the girls would buy cream cookies, | 0:52:30 | 0:52:35 | |
and that was your Friday treat, so that wee... | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
They wee Williams bakers all shut. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:41 | |
I mean, Coats' name wasn't good then. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:43 | |
Today, Coats PLC is still the world's largest thread manufacturer | 0:52:50 | 0:52:56 | |
with huge, modern factories all over the world, but none in the UK. | 0:52:56 | 0:53:02 | |
The area of Ferguslie in Paisley, | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
once the engine that drove the world's third-largest company, | 0:53:05 | 0:53:09 | |
is now the poorest in Scotland. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:11 | |
The first demolition I ever saw in the mills was in Anchor | 0:53:14 | 0:53:19 | |
and it went down in the early '70s. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:21 | |
That was terrible because, at one point, I happened to pass this, | 0:53:21 | 0:53:25 | |
you know, when half of it was down, and it was just so sad. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:30 | |
As the organisation had shrunk, one by one, buildings had disappeared. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:35 | |
In 1982, the most iconic of them all, | 0:53:36 | 0:53:40 | |
the No 1 Spinning Mill at Ferguslie, | 0:53:40 | 0:53:43 | |
was scheduled for demolition. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
Ferguslie Mill, to me, was absolutely stunning. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
A stunning building. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:51 | |
We'll never see the likes of that again. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:53 | |
Ferguslie Mills, where I worked, | 0:54:16 | 0:54:18 | |
you're walking through there now and all you see is houses. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:21 | |
Now that's... | 0:54:21 | 0:54:22 | |
That a place where 3,000-4,000 people used to work - | 0:54:22 | 0:54:25 | |
3,000-4,000 families that depended on the income. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:29 | |
Everybody was standing crying. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:47 | |
With it all getting pulled down, | 0:54:47 | 0:54:49 | |
I think Paisley people felt pulled down. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:51 | |
And I remember standing there and my dad said, "Well, that's it. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:55 | |
"Life in Paisley is starting to go downhill." | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
I'd been coming to Paisley for nearly 30 years to work | 0:55:11 | 0:55:13 | |
and I get a very intense feeling of something old, | 0:55:13 | 0:55:20 | |
venerable and useful having gone. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:23 | |
I'm a Paisley person and I always will be, but I... | 0:55:24 | 0:55:28 | |
I can't say I'm proud of what the town has become. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
But you just felt it was part of Paisley that had gone | 0:55:33 | 0:55:35 | |
and it had gone forever and it was never going to come back. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
Well, you take it... Oh, look at how they've built all they houses | 0:55:48 | 0:55:52 | |
-where the mill used to be. -Aye. -I know. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:54 | |
They did abandon us, because I thought when my lassies grew up, | 0:55:54 | 0:55:56 | |
my lassies would be into the mill, and by the time they had grown up, | 0:55:56 | 0:55:59 | |
Ferguslie Mills was shut. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
They should have kept that building. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
They should have... | 0:56:03 | 0:56:04 | |
-Hi, Davie! How are you? -Budge up. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:08 | |
-Hiya. -You're kind of late. -Budge up. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
No' changed that much, have I? | 0:56:11 | 0:56:13 | |
I've not criticised you at all. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:14 | |
You've not? It's good to see you all. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:17 | |
David was a very popular mill foreman at Ferguslie for 25 years | 0:56:17 | 0:56:22 | |
and is remembered fondly by these workers. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:25 | |
Everybody got on great and we had our differences, of course, | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
you know, but you had your social life. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:30 | |
I get people sometimes come up to me | 0:56:30 | 0:56:32 | |
and say, "You played at my wedding." | 0:56:32 | 0:56:35 | |
I says, "Oh, did I?" | 0:56:35 | 0:56:36 | |
That's right. You played at my pal's. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:38 | |
"Did you no' remember me?" | 0:56:38 | 0:56:39 | |
I says, "Oh, aye, you were the one with the white dress, weren't you?" | 0:56:39 | 0:56:42 | |
But you had so many laughs and it was a way of life. | 0:56:42 | 0:56:45 | |
And I... I appreciate the fact that it was built in Paisley, | 0:56:45 | 0:56:49 | |
and gave us all work, and all sorts of jobs for lots of people, | 0:56:49 | 0:56:53 | |
cos, gosh, we miss them now. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
Here, this is a cheery meeting today, isn't it(?) | 0:56:56 | 0:56:59 | |
You should have came down earlier! | 0:56:59 | 0:57:01 | |
You should have came down earlier and heard us talking about... | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
I was lucky. I stayed on in the mills | 0:57:09 | 0:57:12 | |
and I've had a great life in the mills | 0:57:12 | 0:57:14 | |
and I met a lot of great people in the mills. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:16 | |
It was very much a family sort of feel. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:22 | |
I've got friends still that I, you know, | 0:57:22 | 0:57:25 | |
I worked beside all these years ago. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:28 | |
I enjoyed the mill. | 0:57:28 | 0:57:30 | |
I had a good living from it and the mill was good to me. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:33 | |
The people in Paisley are still great descendants | 0:57:34 | 0:57:38 | |
of these mill workers and Coats people. | 0:57:38 | 0:57:40 | |
Paisley was the mills. It still is. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:45 | |
I wouldn't leave it. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:48 | |
-NEWSREEL: -It's as well to remember our history, even the murkier bits. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:56 | |
Maybe it's not the stuff of kings and wars and high affairs of state. | 0:57:56 | 0:58:00 | |
Maybe it has more to do with bobbins and mill girls | 0:58:00 | 0:58:03 | |
and men standing for what they believed in. | 0:58:03 | 0:58:05 | |
And there can be pride in that, too, | 0:58:07 | 0:58:09 | |
for it is the history of the people of Paisley, | 0:58:09 | 0:58:12 | |
the people who made Paisley the town that it is - | 0:58:12 | 0:58:15 | |
one of the most uniquely independent and successful towns Scotland | 0:58:15 | 0:58:19 | |
has ever produced, the place to keep your eye on. | 0:58:19 | 0:58:23 |