The Town That Thread Built


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At the turn of the 20th century, Scotland's largest town was booming.

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It was a hive of industry where more than 10,000 people worked every day,

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making a product used the world over.

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We exported thread to the whole world.

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At one stage, they produced 90% of the world's sewing thread.

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For more than 100 years, the thread mills were the life and soul

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of the town of Paisley.

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Paisley was thread and thread was Paisley, you know?

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There was hardly a house in Paisley

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didn't have somebody that was employed by the mills.

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Thread built the town and provided its people

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with once-in-a-lifetime opportunities.

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It is one of the very first

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industrial multinational companies.

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The company sent their workers far and wide.

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You had Germany, Brazil, Asia,

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India, Pakistan.

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You heard of people going to these countries

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that nobody would ever have dreamt they'd be able to go to.

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Where they often witnessed life-changing events.

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My father, he saw life under the Nazis in Germany.

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We had two military coups while we were there.

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But the glory days weren't to last

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and eventually boom became bust.

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It was just so sad.

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It was devastating.

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It was a sad, sad day for Paisley.

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I think it devastated the town because what were you left with?

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-NEWSREEL:

-100 years ago, Benjamin Disraeli came out

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with the immortal phrase, "Keep your eye on Paisley."

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Prime ministers knew what they were talking about in those days

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for this is no ordinary town.

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Until the 1980s, the town of Paisley had two huge mill complexes.

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At their height they were the town's largest employer.

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-NEWSREEL:

-It's the biggest town in Scotland

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if you don't count the cities.

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It was the thread capital of the world for 150 years.

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The thread industry became immensely important to Paisley

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because it employed 11,000-12,000 people,

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which was a huge number for a town of about 70,000 inhabitants.

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We used to run a book.

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The bet was on what colour the river would be today.

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Some days, it was bright yellow, some days it was purple,

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some days it was black.

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Every day it was a different colour.

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It was quite a surprise when there was no colour at all.

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The mills stopped here forever in 1993,

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but the people who worked in them have long memories.

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This stretch along here was Atlantic and Pacific, Clark's original mills.

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And just at the trees here was a wee first aid station, which has gone.

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You used to run in there for an orange drink when you got a cold.

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Harry Green began his career in the thread mills

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as an office boy in 1949 and ended up as an assistant manager.

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We are looking at the Mile End finishing mill.

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I ended my career in here in 1983

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after having completed 34 years with J&P Coats.

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That included starting at the head office in Glasgow

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and finishing at the mills in Paisley, where it all began

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many, many years ago.

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Ooh, good grief!

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What a change.

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Well, from what I remember,

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we used to come down West Road and go in the turning shop gate

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along to my mill. And then I was up in the top flat in there

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and that is the counting house.

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This is the counting house at Ferguslie Mills

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and this is where I started work when I was 15.

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The last time I would be in the counting house

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would probably be about 1973-ish.

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Eleanor Clark worked in the mill for 39 years.

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Her jobs included personnel manager and editing the company newspaper.

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She began her career as an office junior in this building,

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which has been converted into flats.

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I can't believe this.

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You know, it's quite unrecognisable.

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So different.

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These buildings are amongst a very few that remain

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of what was once an enormous presence in the town.

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Number eight - twisting.

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And the gatehouse.

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That was the main gatehouse, the north gatehouse.

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The day I arrived, I came down,

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I came through that arch and this girl came through

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and said she would take me. She brought me up here.

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Oh, there's the chimney. There's the chimney there.

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From my office, I could see up to the top of the chimney

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and there was a hawk nested up there for years.

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MILL SIREN BLOWS

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The mills provided jobs for the people of Paisley, known as Buddies,

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for generations.

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Everywhere you went, everybody you met,

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"Oh, aye, you work in the mill.

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"Oh, aye, I remember you. You work in the mill."

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I mean, everybody knew

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where you worked at that time.

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I started in 1956 in the mills.

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I was 15 years old

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and I started in a department called the turning shop.

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The turning shop made the wooden bobbin.

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There was possibly about 80 boys all between the ages of 15 to 20.

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You grew up quick there.

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I had been told by my mother to apply

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to get into Coats' office.

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That was the thing to do.

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It was my mum that put the idea into my head.

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She says, "Well, we've all worked in the mill.

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"What about you? Why not go into the mill?"

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When I got interviewed,

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I got sent for to say that as soon as I had left school,

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I could start on the Monday.

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So my mother said, "That's fine, you can start this Monday."

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I started off as a management trainee with Coats

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immediately after university

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and there was definitely a feeling

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that when you joined,

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you were joining for life.

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I remember a friend of my mum saying,

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"Oh, Jean," she said,

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"That's just set for life

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"when you're in the counting house in the mill."

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I joined Coats in 1974, straight out of university.

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I am the great-great-great-grandson of James Coats Sr,

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who was the original founder

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of the first factory,

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the father of J&P Coats.

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The Paisley thread mills would ultimately be run

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by one large company - J&P Coats.

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But their origins lay in a decades-long rivalry

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between two prominent Paisley families - the Coats and the Clarks.

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They were fierce rivals,

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one at one end of Paisley and one at the other end.

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Paisley had long been a textile town and the area's weavers had risen

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to prominence making intricate silk shawls

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with that unique pattern which came to bear the town's name.

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Paisley pattern was the predominant motif on the Paisley shawls

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and the Paisley shawl was internationally famous.

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It was a very complex cloth,

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so it required a very high level of skill and Paisley,

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because it already had a well-established weaving industry,

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they were able to take on this industry.

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Both the Coats and the Clarks worked in the weaving trade

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and although ultimately it would be the Coats family

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who came out on top,

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in the early days, the Clarks were the innovators.

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Many people tried to make a cotton sewing thread,

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but with no success for years and years and years and the Clarks,

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who were the brilliant family,

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although, as a Coats, I'm reluctant to say this, but it's true,

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they happened upon it

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because of Napoleon's blockade of the UK in 1806.

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The Napoleonic Wars had shut down trade between Britain and France,

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leaving the weavers of Paisley

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without their most crucial raw material - silk.

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The Clarks made their living providing silk twine to weavers.

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The blockade threatened their livelihood,

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but it also presented them with an opportunity.

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There was no way for them to continue providing this product

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cos it wasn't available anywhere within the UK.

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So they tried to make a substitute.

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It was the early days of the Industrial Revolution

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and the textile industry was reaping the benefits of new machinery.

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And the way of making cotton yarn had been revolutionised.

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So, then, a huge abundance of very fine cotton yarn

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became available to the weavers.

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In spite of the blockade,

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Britain was managing to import some raw cotton from the colonies.

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The Clarks realised that this was a solution to their problem.

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So they were able to happen upon a stronger, smoother product,

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no different, really, from sewing thread.

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So they logically started selling some cotton sewing thread

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just to what they called their more adventurous customers.

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Within a decade of the Clarks

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creating the first cotton sewing thread,

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more than 20 thread-making companies had sprung up in the town.

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The thread had initially been a producer industry

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to be turned into something else.

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It became the end product, a consumer business.

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The invention of cotton sewing thread coincided with the arrival

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of one of the most significant domestic innovations

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of the 19th century.

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Bingo, the sewing machine appears and, hallelujah,

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it's all time to get rich and happy and indeed,

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both the Clarks and the Coats prospered enormously

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from the invention of the sewing machine.

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The advent of the sewing machine

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meant the demand for thread was huge and growing.

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The thread business just got bigger and bigger

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and bigger and bigger and bigger.

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The rival families were quick to establish their positions in town.

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To the east, the Clarks built their first mill in 1817, known as Anchor.

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The Coats family followed suit in 1826,

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constructing their first mill south-west of town at Ferguslie.

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At their height, both sites grew to more than 50 acres each.

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It looked like a whole town.

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I mean, Ferguslie Mill was massive.

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You'd probably get about ten football pitches in there.

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And I used to think,

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"It's massive, absolutely massive".

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You were a wee dot compared to all these people.

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Each site had multiple buildings with different functions,

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such as dyeing and spinning.

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In the largest mills, whole floors, or flats, as they were known,

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were dedicated to winding, twisting, packaging and polishing.

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And there was a healthy rivalry

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between the workers at either end of town.

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Ferguslie started off with the bales of cotton,

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right through till the twisted thread,

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and then Anchor finished off.

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And the ladies in the Anchor used to think

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that they were a wee bit upper than the ladies from Ferguslie.

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They were the toffs in Anchor.

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We were the plebs.

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It's true, yes, it's true.

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-NEWSREEL:

-This is now the biggest thread-making concern

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in the United Kingdom.

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Over 4,000 people are employed in this Paisley mill.

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I'd never heard noise like it in my life.

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Smelly, dirty, oily, greasy.

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And it was, like, as if the whole war had started on the one building

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with the noise of these machines.

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Really noisy, clackety-clack.

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Just think of the clack, clack, clack clack, clack...

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THEY MIMIC LOUD INDUSTRIAL NOISES

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I think because of the noise,

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you were more inclined to watch people's mouths.

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They lip-read, you know?

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You were here with this thing going round like a windmill

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and the girl in front of you, she'd mouth...

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-SHE MOUTHS:

-I'm going to the toilet.

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And they always talked with their back to the supervisor

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because some of them used to lip-read, too, you know?

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I was only in the job about a month and I heard a scream.

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And you could hear it above the machines.

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And it was this girl that had got her hair caught in the thing and...

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It took her scalp off the side.

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So all the machines stopped then.

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You didn't want to know about it

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because the next time, it could be you.

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-NEWSREEL:

-People are not very conscious of thread.

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They think about fashion,

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but this is only one of the industries we serve

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and in any case, who notices the thread in a gorgeous dress?

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We often forget how important thread is

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because we don't see it.

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-NEWSREEL:

-The fibres go through a number of processes.

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They're opened, carded, drawn and spun.

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People never think about thread.

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It just holds your clothes together.

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But, yes, there are special threads

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like the thread you put into baseballs,

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meat-tying thread, tampon thread, tea bag thread,

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things you never think about.

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-NEWSREEL:

-Look! Eight fibres are drawn into this machine to make one

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and to even out differences between them.

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There was a great slogan that the Coats did at one time which was,

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"Imagine a world without thread".

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Now, look!

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-WOMAN SCREAMS

-Oh, no, what's going on?

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My apron and tea towels just disappeared!

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Oh!

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Yes, it is an important product

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which everybody takes for granted.

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-NEWSREEL:

-Modern spinning and winding machines

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are mostly looked after by girls.

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The Paisley mills were built and owned by eminent men,

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but from their very beginnings,

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they were powered by the women and girls of Paisley.

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At one time, the town was said to have seven women for every man.

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Well, initially,

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the people who produced and worked on the machines were all ladies,

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and the men were, like, engineering associates like that, service men,

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as I was doing.

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You wouldn't have men spinning,

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for example. That was a woman's job.

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Children did the sort of ancillary services,

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the sort of support services,

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mending threads and things like that.

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But women were the main workforce by the early 20th century

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and the men primarily were overseers.

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The foreman was always a man, yeah,

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and that was basically it. The foreman was a man.

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It was kind of a macho company because women only got so far.

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But thread would not be made without women,

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because it was all women that made it.

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MILL SIREN BLOWS

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Throughout the 19th and 20th centuries,

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the sound of the mill siren would send thousands of mill girls

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onto the streets. Today, the last of them are long since retired.

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Well, I actually started with the intention

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of only working for three months to buy a bigger caravan.

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LAUGHTER

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Joyce, Josephine, Gina and Ellen all worked together in Ferguslie Mills

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and have been friends for more than 40 years.

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It was the size of everything when I walked in to it.

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It was massive and I felt tiny.

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And I thought, "Gosh, am I to work in here? Will they find me again?"

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But this nice man came up and said to me, "Start here".

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And there I was and I felt as tall as they beams.

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-I felt great.

-We made our own wages.

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We were doffers, so we were on piecework.

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A doffer's job was to remove the spools of thread from spindles

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once they were fully wound.

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Speed was essential, but so was your tension

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because if your tension wasn't accurate,

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then all the ends went up in the air and you were in trouble.

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This group of women worked the twilight shift.

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What they earned was based solely on the amount of thread they processed.

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Piecework was where, if your machines were running,

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so was your pay.

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Women who were married that were on piecework

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because they could make more than their husbands

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in the jobs they were outside.

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In the past, women had to leave their jobs to marry,

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with only single women allowed to work in the mills,

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giving us the word spinster.

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It was only later that some jobs

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were deemed appropriate for married women.

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Well, we know that, you know, just after the First World War,

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half of all women working in Paisley are working in textiles,

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which gives you a sense of how large an employer it was

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and how crucial it was to the economy of Paisley in that time.

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You would have had high unemployment among men

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and especially in the 1930s after the Depression.

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So, you know, women's employment was important

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in keeping families afloat.

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I enjoyed my independence,

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the mill gave me that.

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I was so excited at the thought that I could go out to work.

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And I loved the independence it gave me,

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of having my money instead of my husband's money in my hand.

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Your wage from the mill was a lifeline at times.

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-Aye, that's right.

-Actually, your wages from the mill built Paisley.

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I mean, we got hospitals and we

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Look at the buildings that they built because...

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That was Coats, but Coats had nothing else but money.

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They earned money because we worked.

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In the 19th century, as the Paisley thread industry grew,

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so the rivalry between the two family businesses intensified.

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The Coatses, because they were managerially more adept

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and more dedicated to quality than the Clarks,

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simply took over and dominated the trade very quickly.

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So that by 1840,

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they were the largest manufacturer of cotton thread in Paisley.

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Although successful, the Clark family were known

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to be a fractious bunch, giving the far more unified Coatses the edge.

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James and Peter, the J&P of the company name,

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looked after logistics and accounting respectively,

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but two of their younger brothers

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also took key roles within the company.

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Thomas, who was my great-great-grandfather,

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was an engineer and Andrew was an entrepreneur and a lawyer.

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He didn't really join the company business at all,

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but he was the engine that made it work.

0:20:560:20:58

Andrew Coats was absolutely indispensable.

0:20:580:21:01

Andrew Coats sailed to America in 1839 to seek his fortune.

0:21:030:21:08

The family business had already begun selling

0:21:080:21:11

to the American market, but it would be his intervention

0:21:110:21:14

which would be the making of J&P Coats.

0:21:140:21:18

There were people who tried to copy their product,

0:21:180:21:20

pretending it was theirs and Andrew Coats fought these cases

0:21:200:21:24

in the law courts of the United States.

0:21:240:21:27

He took the company from a point

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where they were selling 45% of their product in the USA,

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which was with their agents, to ten years later,

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selling up to 85%.

0:21:370:21:40

In the 1850s, the Americans introduced high import taxes.

0:21:430:21:48

The time had come for Coats to begin making thread abroad.

0:21:490:21:52

Their Paisley rivals, the Clarks, beat them to it,

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building mills in New Jersey in 1866,

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but Coats weren't far behind and, soon after,

0:22:020:22:05

established what would be the first of many foreign mills

0:22:050:22:08

in the state of Rhode Island.

0:22:080:22:11

MILL SIREN BLOWS

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Today, almost all of Coats' former mills

0:22:150:22:18

in the town of Pawtucket are still standing.

0:22:180:22:20

Oh, my goodness, me.

0:22:220:22:24

This is huge.

0:22:240:22:26

Brian Coats, the great-great-great-grandson

0:22:270:22:30

of the company's founder, has never seen them before.

0:22:300:22:33

On this side, we have the first phase,

0:22:330:22:36

with mills two, three and four.

0:22:360:22:39

Industrial historian Matt Kierstead has agreed to give him a tour.

0:22:390:22:43

We are on about a 50 acre, yeah,

0:22:450:22:48

I would call it a campus or even a small industrial city.

0:22:480:22:52

That's... That's close to the size

0:22:520:22:54

-of the original Ferguslie Mill in Scotland.

-OK.

-At its height.

0:22:540:22:57

-Yeah, yeah.

-Yeah. Erm, this is an illustrated brochure

0:22:570:23:00

which I pulled out of the archives

0:23:000:23:02

and I have got a map that they did...

0:23:020:23:05

-Wow!

-When they originally built it.

0:23:050:23:06

So number one mill must have been

0:23:060:23:08

where that extension has been built there,

0:23:080:23:10

which must have been built at a later time.

0:23:100:23:12

Although the American site quickly grew

0:23:140:23:17

to be as large as the one at Ferguslie,

0:23:170:23:19

production here started small,

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with just one building spooling thread imported from Paisley.

0:23:220:23:25

And you can start to see now on the back side of these buildings,

0:23:270:23:30

the attached engine room.

0:23:300:23:33

The boilers and the steam engine would have been in there.

0:23:330:23:35

And then in that little connecting building

0:23:350:23:38

would have been belt drive or shafts.

0:23:380:23:40

It is... I mean, I now see, this is...

0:23:400:23:43

It's similar in size to Ferguslie.

0:23:430:23:45

In those early years,

0:23:480:23:50

these vast buildings were mostly staffed

0:23:500:23:52

with skilled workers from the UK,

0:23:520:23:54

with adverts placed in newspapers in Paisley,

0:23:540:23:57

promising a new life in a new country.

0:23:570:24:00

I mean, my first impression of this is that it is...

0:24:040:24:07

It is a taller roof

0:24:070:24:09

and it's lighter than anything I saw in Paisley.

0:24:090:24:12

So each of these now empty bays would just be full of machines

0:24:130:24:18

with little aisles for the operatives to...

0:24:180:24:20

-Correct.

-Service them and...

0:24:200:24:22

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

-So these were roving frames

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and they would run in that direction

0:24:240:24:27

and the shafts that drove them would be up,

0:24:270:24:31

going that way across the roof.

0:24:310:24:32

But that's what it would've looked like

0:24:320:24:34

and it would be extremely noisy.

0:24:340:24:36

-Yes.

-Extremely noisy.

0:24:360:24:38

MACHINERY WHIRS AND RATTLES LOUDLY

0:24:380:24:43

Just got a glimpse of Ferguslie before it was all knocked down

0:24:470:24:50

and I always wanted to go back and look at it with a little bit more

0:24:500:24:54

of the wisdom of age, let's put it that way.

0:24:540:24:57

It's nice to be able to see buildings that look...

0:24:570:24:59

They're not the same, but they're similar

0:24:590:25:01

and the scale is very similar.

0:25:010:25:03

MILL SIREN BLOWS

0:25:030:25:06

You start to imagine what it must've been like

0:25:060:25:09

when there were people in them and the machines were all running

0:25:090:25:12

and I would've enjoyed being a fly on the wall

0:25:120:25:14

and just seeing what it looked like.

0:25:140:25:16

So, yeah, it gives me kind of goose bumps.

0:25:160:25:18

Within 20 years of being built, Coats' American mills had become

0:25:220:25:26

one of the largest manufacturing plants in the United States.

0:25:260:25:29

Basically, the United States was a kind of cash register

0:25:310:25:36

for the wider organisation.

0:25:360:25:38

The success of the American enterprise

0:25:380:25:41

was a huge turning point for the company.

0:25:410:25:43

Expansion into Europe came next and manufacturing abroad

0:25:430:25:47

set them on the path to world domination.

0:25:470:25:51

A lot of the money that was made in that way was invested in Paisley.

0:25:510:25:55

The Coats and Clark families became very rich out of this,

0:26:020:26:05

but they were also very public spirited.

0:26:050:26:07

A lot of their money went into civic buildings

0:26:070:26:10

and the community in Paisley.

0:26:100:26:13

It was the making of the town.

0:26:140:26:15

You just cannot deny the scale and scope of Coats' generosity.

0:26:320:26:37

Everywhere you look in Paisley, it's there.

0:26:370:26:40

It's there in the Clark Memorial Town Hall, it's in the mills,

0:26:400:26:44

it's there in Coats Memorial Church.

0:26:440:26:49

What a wonderful edifice that is to elevate the minds

0:26:490:26:53

of the people of Paisley in the town in which they lived.

0:26:530:26:57

Sir Peter Coats, he built the Paisley Museum and the library.

0:26:580:27:03

Thomas, his brother, my great-great-grandfather,

0:27:030:27:05

built the observatory.

0:27:050:27:07

The building we're sitting in, the observatory,

0:27:090:27:13

which is the major feature

0:27:130:27:14

of the skyline at Paisley coming from the north.

0:27:140:27:18

The individual buildings are, at lowest, good-quality,

0:27:180:27:22

at the best, of exceptional quality,

0:27:220:27:24

and they're designed to fit in with each other.

0:27:240:27:27

The Coats and the Clarks were socially minded employers,

0:27:400:27:44

known for their paternalism,

0:27:440:27:46

and it wasn't just buildings they invested in -

0:27:460:27:48

it was people, too.

0:27:480:27:50

Way back, their welfare was incredible.

0:27:500:27:54

They even had penny baths for people

0:27:540:27:56

in the days when people wouldn't have baths in their house, you know?

0:27:560:28:00

Both mills had first aid centres,

0:28:010:28:04

which was very good for tea and sympathy

0:28:040:28:06

and if you wanted to know the local news,

0:28:060:28:09

you went to the first aid centre.

0:28:090:28:10

I applied to join the auxiliary fire service that J&P Coats had

0:28:120:28:18

and they supplied you with a house.

0:28:180:28:20

So for a young 21-year-old

0:28:200:28:22

like myself and my wife

0:28:220:28:24

to get something like this

0:28:240:28:25

for the princely sum of £5 a month rent...

0:28:250:28:28

Both in Ferguslie and Anchor's, they had day sports grounds.

0:28:280:28:33

I played hockey there.

0:28:330:28:35

I played hockey until I was 37.

0:28:350:28:37

They had very successful cricket teams, football teams.

0:28:390:28:42

There were two thriving bowls clubs.

0:28:420:28:47

They had sewing classes and they had keep fit classes.

0:28:470:28:51

There was a thriving drama club.

0:28:510:28:53

They put on a show every year.

0:28:530:28:56

That was fun.

0:28:560:28:57

Every year, they would have an annual outing,

0:29:060:29:09

which was a fantastic undertaking.

0:29:090:29:11

10,000 people moving.

0:29:110:29:12

They would hire whole trains to take people off to places like Braemar

0:29:120:29:16

or Arbroath or wherever it might be.

0:29:160:29:18

They had bands and there's a fabulous photograph of them all,

0:29:220:29:26

you know, with their moustaches and whatnot.

0:29:260:29:28

It was the central focus of Paisley social life.

0:29:320:29:38

Well, your night outs, you know, we used to go to the Anchor Rec.

0:29:380:29:41

That was a good place.

0:29:410:29:43

The Anchor Recreation Club was the hub

0:29:450:29:47

of the mill workers' social life.

0:29:470:29:50

And they had dances every Saturday night

0:29:500:29:52

and my brother and I started a band and called it Maverick,

0:29:520:29:57

and we played over there.

0:29:570:29:58

And the guys were talking about going to London

0:29:580:30:01

to try and get famous, if you like,

0:30:010:30:04

and... I stopped it and that,

0:30:040:30:07

and a certain guy called Gerry Rafferty took my place.

0:30:070:30:11

I personally didn't like him.

0:30:120:30:13

I didn't think he was very good.

0:30:130:30:15

Shows you how much I know!

0:30:150:30:18

This is the Anchor Recreation Club.

0:30:260:30:28

I met my wife-to-be here.

0:30:280:30:30

Her brothers and the rest of our friends always had to make her

0:30:310:30:35

dance in the first half, and there were six of us,

0:30:350:30:38

so she got 12 dances in a night, at least.

0:30:380:30:41

And it was teetotal in those days,

0:30:410:30:43

so as you go into the main reception,

0:30:430:30:45

the bar was across there,

0:30:450:30:46

and it was all fizzy drinks.

0:30:460:30:48

You could get crisps later on at night,

0:30:480:30:50

but not to start with at 7.30.

0:30:500:30:52

And then ten o'clock, you know, all out, the doors are shut.

0:30:520:30:55

Great memories. Great place.

0:30:560:30:58

Those were the days.

0:31:000:31:01

Right from the start, the Coats family were known as good employers,

0:31:070:31:11

who valued the wellbeing of their workers.

0:31:110:31:15

In 1887, Coats built a school for their young female employees.

0:31:150:31:20

It was known as the Half-Time School.

0:31:200:31:23

Basically, what this was all about

0:31:260:31:27

is if you've got a healthy workforce,

0:31:270:31:29

they'll work harder.

0:31:290:31:30

So it's couched in terms of, you know, employee...

0:31:300:31:33

employee welfare,

0:31:330:31:35

but, really, it's to improve the efficiency of the business.

0:31:350:31:38

I mean, they were very clear that they were doing well

0:31:380:31:42

because they had good people, and the more they looked after people,

0:31:420:31:47

the more return they got for their businesses.

0:31:470:31:51

At that time, young children who were working, 12, 13, 14-year-olds,

0:31:540:31:58

had to spend time at school.

0:31:580:32:01

Most of them would walk, and so rather than lose that time,

0:32:010:32:05

Coats thought it would be a good idea to have a school

0:32:050:32:07

on the premises where people could go and they had full-time teachers,

0:32:070:32:10

they had nursing facilities.

0:32:100:32:13

Today, the once magnificent Half-Time School building

0:32:150:32:19

lies in ruins, but from the time it opened in 1887

0:32:190:32:23

until the introduction of compulsory full-time education,

0:32:230:32:27

thousands of young mill girls passed through its doors.

0:32:270:32:30

Both Coats and Clarks had continued to expand,

0:32:370:32:41

but the late 19th century was a time of great turmoil.

0:32:410:32:46

Faced with strikes and recession, merger became inevitable.

0:32:460:32:50

In 1896, the two great Paisley rivals

0:32:520:32:55

finally agreed to join forces.

0:32:550:32:58

The new company, now known as J&P Coats,

0:33:040:33:08

was the largest thread manufacturer in the world.

0:33:080:33:11

I would maintain that it is one

0:33:110:33:14

of the very first industrial multinational companies.

0:33:140:33:19

Yes, the East India Company and so on,

0:33:190:33:21

which are essentially trading companies,

0:33:210:33:24

but Coats was manufacturing overseas from a very early stage.

0:33:240:33:28

By 1910, Paisley was home to the third-largest company on the planet,

0:33:300:33:36

second only to US Steel and Standard Oil,

0:33:360:33:40

with factories in around 40 countries.

0:33:400:33:42

People travelled all over the world, literally, for Coats.

0:33:460:33:50

They were dominant in Russia.

0:33:500:33:53

They were becoming dominant in Europe.

0:33:530:33:56

And by about the middle 1930s,

0:33:560:33:58

they had 35,000 employees worldwide.

0:33:580:34:02

When Coats started to manufacture overseas,

0:34:040:34:07

what was done in Paisley was copied by everybody else,

0:34:070:34:11

so that Paisley remained the engine that drove everything.

0:34:110:34:15

With mills in locations as far-flung as El Salvador, Japan,

0:34:180:34:24

India and Russia,

0:34:240:34:26

Coats' employees were travelling far and wide

0:34:260:34:29

to train foreign workers long before the advent of aviation.

0:34:290:34:33

If you were wanting to see the world, the two quickest options,

0:34:360:34:39

if you were a Paisley Buddy, were to join the army or join Coats.

0:34:390:34:42

A large number of Paisley people went out there

0:34:420:34:45

from the mills in Paisley,

0:34:450:34:47

right down to mill girl level,

0:34:470:34:49

because nobody had worked in a thread mill before.

0:34:490:34:51

That changed their lives quite dramatically,

0:34:510:34:54

I would think, you know?

0:34:540:34:55

Because they saw a totally different world.

0:34:550:34:58

We were, kind of, put in the sausage machine for being sent somewhere,

0:35:020:35:05

and "somewhere" could be anywhere,

0:35:050:35:07

and I was eventually sent to Brazil.

0:35:070:35:10

Three and a half years after I started,

0:35:100:35:13

I headed off to my first job, which was in Peru.

0:35:130:35:17

My first real job was in Colombia, South America.

0:35:170:35:21

I got sent to Personnel, and they said,

0:35:230:35:25

"Would you like to go to Peru?"

0:35:250:35:27

The biggest change was the food.

0:35:280:35:30

You don't ask what it is - you just eat it and enjoy it.

0:35:300:35:34

We arrived just at the start of the 1970 World Cup

0:35:340:35:37

and we were billeted in a hotel downtown, and, of course,

0:35:370:35:41

Brazil were sensational in that World Cup and won it,

0:35:410:35:44

and the whole city erupted into a three-day carnival.

0:35:440:35:48

You would go Glasgow-London, London-Madrid,...

0:35:500:35:55

Madrid to Lisbon, Lisbon to Dakar...

0:35:550:35:59

Caracas, Bogota...

0:35:590:36:01

Cartagena to Quito.

0:36:010:36:03

Quito-Guayaquil, Guayaquil-Lima.

0:36:030:36:06

So that it was a real hoppity-hop kind of journey.

0:36:060:36:10

34 and a half hours.

0:36:100:36:11

Every time we landed, we were given a wee ticket

0:36:110:36:14

to go and get a drink.

0:36:140:36:16

It was an interesting culture,

0:36:190:36:21

because they still spoke elements of Paisley

0:36:210:36:24

on the mill floor, and words survived into the local argot,

0:36:240:36:29

like "umnyaffee" turns out to be a foreman, as a wee nyaff.

0:36:290:36:35

Working abroad,

0:36:400:36:41

Coats employees often got caught up in life-changing world events.

0:36:410:36:46

Working in South America was an interesting experience.

0:36:460:36:49

In Venezuela, we had two military coups while we were there.

0:36:490:36:53

I can remember the personnel manager

0:36:530:36:55

calling me up at four o'clock in the morning

0:36:550:36:56

and saying, "Don't be alarmed,

0:36:560:36:58

"but there is a coup going on at the moment.

0:36:580:37:00

"Stay at home and wait till I call you."

0:37:000:37:01

My grandfather had worked in the mill.

0:37:010:37:03

He was a foreman.

0:37:030:37:05

At the turn of the century, he was actually sent to Russia.

0:37:050:37:08

They were opening a mill there.

0:37:080:37:11

My mother had an aunt, and she was a...

0:37:110:37:14

what they called a mistress, but that's a teacher, you know?

0:37:140:37:17

And she was in the Russian mills out there

0:37:170:37:19

and she had to...

0:37:190:37:22

They had all to pack very quickly when the revolution started.

0:37:220:37:25

They lost the Russian mills in the revolution.

0:37:270:37:31

They lost Poland, Estonia, Latvia,

0:37:310:37:34

France, Germany, Italy, Spain because of the Civil War...

0:37:340:37:40

During the war, they lost complete contact

0:37:400:37:42

with all the mills in Eastern Europe and in Germany and Austria

0:37:420:37:46

and a lot of them were actually converted

0:37:460:37:48

to making product for the German army.

0:37:480:37:50

Well, these are the prewar passports of my father,

0:37:560:37:59

covering the year 1935 to 1948.

0:37:590:38:03

Ken's father, William Matheson, worked for Coats all his life.

0:38:060:38:10

Starting as an office junior at the age of 13,

0:38:100:38:13

he worked his way up through the ranks

0:38:130:38:15

and ended up travelling the world as a cost accountant,

0:38:150:38:19

visiting around 30 countries in his career.

0:38:190:38:21

In those days, you went in or out of a country

0:38:230:38:25

and you got your passport stamped.

0:38:250:38:26

He was hardly in any one location

0:38:260:38:28

or any one country for more than three weeks.

0:38:280:38:31

In the mid-1930s,

0:38:330:38:35

William Matheson was sent to install a standard costing system

0:38:350:38:39

in the mills of Eastern Europe.

0:38:390:38:40

My father was based near Vienna, where the Austrian mills were,

0:38:400:38:43

and he was doing the installation of the system in Austria,

0:38:430:38:47

Czechoslovakia, Bratislava...

0:38:470:38:49

So my father was in and out of Germany a lot.

0:38:490:38:52

So he saw life in...

0:38:520:38:54

under the Nazis in Germany.

0:38:540:38:56

On the 12th of March 1938, German tanks rolled into Vienna.

0:38:590:39:05

The day that he was told to get out of Bratislava and Vienna

0:39:050:39:10

and come home was the day that Hitler actually arrived in Vienna.

0:39:100:39:13

-CHANTING:

-Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!

0:39:130:39:15

Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!

0:39:150:39:19

Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!

0:39:190:39:20

My father got a taxi to the street where they lived,

0:39:200:39:24

and it was a little cul-de-sac of flats,

0:39:240:39:27

and there were swastika banners hanging off all of the balconies,

0:39:270:39:32

except their flat, which was hanging with my brother's nappies.

0:39:320:39:36

So it was, "Get those down right away and pack what you can get,"

0:39:360:39:41

and they left everything else.

0:39:410:39:43

-CHANTING:

-Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!

0:39:430:39:46

They drove through the streets ahead of Hitler's procession

0:39:460:39:50

and the streets were thronged with thousands,

0:39:500:39:52

hundreds of thousands of people,

0:39:520:39:54

and they were driving down the route of the motorcade

0:39:540:39:58

just in time to get away with it.

0:39:580:40:00

That's what they saw coming out of Austria that day.

0:40:020:40:06

Operating abroad was challenging,

0:40:090:40:12

particularly during times of conflict,

0:40:120:40:14

but Coats had been smart

0:40:140:40:16

and, although they lost mills during the Second World War,

0:40:160:40:19

they managed to get back on their feet pretty quickly.

0:40:190:40:22

Coats had been really brilliant

0:40:220:40:24

at looking after their proprietorial rights, you know,

0:40:240:40:28

their trademarks, their patents, their title deeds,

0:40:280:40:32

everything that proved their ownership of property

0:40:320:40:34

in a particular country.

0:40:340:40:36

By a lot of judicious hiding of things,

0:40:360:40:38

they actually managed to get back up and running quite quickly.

0:40:380:40:42

They got out of Hungary and Czechoslovakia, for instance,

0:40:420:40:45

with all of their title deeds, all of their property things.

0:40:450:40:48

They actually got themselves back in the game in a lot of countries

0:40:480:40:51

where they had basically written it all off.

0:40:510:40:53

That hour before you started was crucial,

0:41:020:41:05

because the kids to be home prompt.

0:41:050:41:08

They were changed out their school uniforms,

0:41:080:41:10

their homework was started...

0:41:100:41:11

Well, you had outside stairs to scrub as well

0:41:110:41:14

and you had to put your chalk down the side of your close.

0:41:140:41:17

What year was that, the year dot?

0:41:170:41:19

She's older than us.

0:41:190:41:20

# I am 16, going on... #

0:41:200:41:22

Look, I'm 84. Come on, I...

0:41:220:41:24

But there was a good social side to working in the mill

0:41:240:41:27

because there was always somebody had a catalogue going,

0:41:270:41:31

an Avon book...

0:41:310:41:33

And menages, there was menages running.

0:41:330:41:35

It was... It was quite a good social scene.

0:41:350:41:38

In a strict working environment where men ruled the roost,

0:41:380:41:43

there was one place where the women were in charge.

0:41:430:41:46

On a Friday especially was a different day for the ladies,

0:41:460:41:48

because that was the day, the weekend was looming,

0:41:480:41:52

so they disappeared,

0:41:520:41:54

and when I first started, I used to wonder where are they all went,

0:41:540:41:57

but they were all in the toilets getting their hair done.

0:41:570:42:00

The atmosphere in the place was brilliant.

0:42:000:42:02

When it came to the weekend, we were all ready to go out,

0:42:020:42:05

finish on a Friday.

0:42:050:42:07

We went out into the cloakroom.

0:42:070:42:08

We were getting our hair done.

0:42:080:42:10

We were getting our eyebrows plucked already, and our rollers in,

0:42:100:42:13

all ready for the weekend,

0:42:130:42:15

the dancing and all that, I mean, it was great.

0:42:150:42:18

You could get your hair cut in the toilet.

0:42:180:42:21

There was this girl on this particular day, going out,

0:42:210:42:23

everybody's shouting. The machines went off,

0:42:230:42:26

and they went, "Good night, Willie!"

0:42:260:42:27

And he said, "Aye, you forgot to get the rest of your hair cut."

0:42:270:42:30

She'd forgot when she was walking out, she'd got the right side cut,

0:42:300:42:33

which was into the machines, but when she came out, it was the...

0:42:330:42:37

She'd forgot the opposite side.

0:42:370:42:39

That's where we got our education.

0:42:410:42:43

I couldn't believe the things that folks spoke about.

0:42:430:42:46

Unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable.

0:42:460:42:48

And these women that bravely walked into the toilets

0:42:480:42:51

with a potato and a needle and got their ears pierced.

0:42:510:42:53

Oh, yes, their ears pierced.

0:42:530:42:55

So you'd be in the toilets and you'd say,

0:43:010:43:03

"Are you going to Barrowland this week?"

0:43:030:43:04

"Yes, I am." "Do us a favour. Gonnae show us how to do the Creep?

0:43:040:43:08

And this was, you did two steps to that side, two steps to that side,

0:43:100:43:14

and then you dragged your right leg.

0:43:140:43:16

So it looked as if you had a bad leg, so it was called the Creep.

0:43:160:43:20

So this was you in the toilets,

0:43:200:43:21

and you were dancing and showing them the new thing about the Creep,

0:43:210:43:24

or else it was the Twist and whatever it was.

0:43:240:43:27

They had such a lot of dance halls in Paisley,

0:43:280:43:31

so it didn't matter where you went in Paisley,

0:43:310:43:34

there was always a mill girl.

0:43:340:43:36

The town was buzzing with all these people working

0:43:360:43:38

and they had a lot of money to spend.

0:43:380:43:41

-NEWSREEL:

-Paisley has the second-lowest level

0:43:500:43:52

of unemployment in Scotland.

0:43:520:43:54

Only oil and fish-rich Aberdeen can employ more of its people.

0:43:540:43:58

In the 1960s, Paisley was thriving.

0:43:590:44:02

As well as the thread mills,

0:44:020:44:03

other big employers included the Hillman car factory at Linwood

0:44:030:44:07

and food producers Brown & Paulson.

0:44:070:44:10

Paisley was a good growing town at that time

0:44:100:44:13

because there was a lot of money.

0:44:130:44:15

Paisley girls were always well-dressed.

0:44:160:44:19

Oh, Paisley was great.

0:44:190:44:20

Paisley in the '60s and that was superb,

0:44:200:44:24

and it was just a place to be.

0:44:240:44:26

People would come on holiday Mondays from Glasgow to Paisley

0:44:260:44:30

because it was such a good place to shop.

0:44:300:44:32

Good-quality gents shops that a lot of my generation will remember.

0:44:330:44:38

There was John Collier's.

0:44:380:44:39

There was Hepworth's.

0:44:390:44:40

There was Burton's. There was Jackson's.

0:44:400:44:43

There'd be a furniture shop.

0:44:430:44:45

Maybe bicycles or...

0:44:450:44:46

There was that right along.

0:44:460:44:49

Industry had allowed the town to flourish.

0:44:530:44:56

But by the '70s, like the rest of industrial Scotland,

0:44:560:45:00

Paisley was in decline.

0:45:000:45:02

The car plant at Linwood had begun laying off thousands of workers

0:45:020:45:06

and would eventually close.

0:45:060:45:09

There were many more job losses on the horizon

0:45:090:45:12

and the mills were not immune.

0:45:120:45:15

Somewhere about the '50s into the '60s, there was a, kind of,

0:45:150:45:20

a personnel edict that top-level management

0:45:200:45:24

would be recruited from universities,

0:45:240:45:26

rather than through the traditional mill pattern

0:45:260:45:29

where the bright folk in the mill could actually progress.

0:45:290:45:32

That stifled people who actually knew how to make thread

0:45:320:45:36

from getting to the positions of managing a mill that makes thread.

0:45:360:45:40

I don't know who the managers in the top brass were in Coats, you know,

0:45:400:45:45

after a time.

0:45:450:45:46

Times had changed

0:45:470:45:49

and the family were no longer the major shareholders in the company.

0:45:490:45:53

Global capitalism had sent textiles in Britain into a downward spiral

0:45:530:45:58

and Paisley would be hit hard.

0:45:580:46:01

Through the '20s and '30s, Coats developed hugely in Europe.

0:46:010:46:06

Through the '50s and early '60s,

0:46:060:46:09

Coats developed hugely in Latin America.

0:46:090:46:13

So the potential for export from Paisley was being undermined.

0:46:130:46:18

So the ethos of the company had completely changed

0:46:200:46:23

from being about locations and loyalties, as well as profitability,

0:46:230:46:30

to being about the maximisation of profit.

0:46:300:46:33

Coats had been pioneers of globalised working,

0:46:370:46:41

manufacturing abroad long before it was the norm.

0:46:410:46:44

For their Paisley workforce,

0:46:440:46:46

the years of exporting their skills overseas was about to backfire.

0:46:460:46:50

That's just been the effects of, sort of, globalisation,

0:46:500:46:54

in the sense that it became cheaper to move production abroad,

0:46:540:46:57

and, I mean, the whole of Scotland suffered.

0:46:570:47:00

I always felt that's what killed them off,

0:47:000:47:03

because they were making it cheaper abroad.

0:47:030:47:05

Well, this is what I was thinking.

0:47:050:47:07

If they're taking the machines over to there,

0:47:070:47:10

instead of sending their cotton stuff to us,

0:47:100:47:13

we're not going to have a mill.

0:47:130:47:14

Coats had begun buying up other textile companies,

0:47:150:47:18

joining with familiar names such as Viyella and Patons,

0:47:180:47:22

in an attempt to maximise profits and, at the same time,

0:47:220:47:26

create work for the town which had made their fortune,

0:47:260:47:30

but it was to be in vain.

0:47:300:47:32

The actual mill buildings were 19th-century buildings.

0:47:320:47:37

Fast forward 100 years, and they're kind of not fit for purpose.

0:47:370:47:42

Because of the demise of the domestic business,

0:47:420:47:48

it became clear that this huge Paisley engine couldn't be fed.

0:47:480:47:55

It was imploding in on itself and it became obvious after a time

0:47:570:48:01

that something had to be closed,

0:48:010:48:02

and indeed Ferguslie was the first place to go.

0:48:020:48:05

In December 1983, the vast Ferguslie mills were closed for good,

0:48:080:48:14

and the once 10,000-strong workforce

0:48:140:48:17

had now shrunk to around a fifth of that size.

0:48:170:48:20

The workers who kept their jobs were moved to the mills at Anchor.

0:48:230:48:27

There was always a big meeting of the managers every year

0:48:280:48:31

to see how the company was doing,

0:48:310:48:33

and that was followed by a meeting of the assistant managers,

0:48:330:48:36

and I think there was about 18 of us all went to a meeting,

0:48:360:48:40

and this director, you know, "Good morning."

0:48:400:48:43

Nothing was said.

0:48:430:48:45

He went through all the figures.

0:48:450:48:47

No questions. Then we just walked out

0:48:470:48:49

and the following month, we got our redundancies.

0:48:490:48:52

-INTERVIEWER:

-How did you feel?

0:48:530:48:55

Rotten.

0:48:550:48:56

The worst moment of my life was the time when Ferguslie shut.

0:48:560:49:01

Ferguslie, I kind of grew up there from when I was 15 till I was 40.

0:49:010:49:06

And when we were told that the mill was closing down, I was crying.

0:49:080:49:12

You think your life's over when it closes down, you know what I mean?

0:49:120:49:14

You thought, "What am I going to do now?"

0:49:140:49:16

I was told I would be made redundant in 18 months

0:49:160:49:20

and I was literally kind of last in situ at Ferguslie Mills.

0:49:200:49:25

I was 38 when I was made redundant

0:49:250:49:30

and I felt demoralised, totally demoralised.

0:49:300:49:34

I actually did hand over the cheques to a lot of them, you know.

0:49:360:49:40

I mean, one day, I remember it was...

0:49:400:49:42

I think it was about 40 men went out at a dyeworks

0:49:420:49:47

and you knew a lot of them would never get a job for ages,

0:49:470:49:50

if at all, you know?

0:49:500:49:52

You went home and felt like hitting your head off the wall,

0:49:520:49:55

you know. It really, really got to you.

0:49:550:49:57

Everybody was a bag of nerves.

0:49:570:50:00

What happened was you would get a phone call

0:50:000:50:03

saying come in on a certain day and date and you'll know your fate.

0:50:030:50:07

And they took us in one at a time like an execution,

0:50:070:50:11

and they told us individually, "You've got a job.

0:50:110:50:14

"You've no' got a job."

0:50:140:50:16

And some took it really bad, kicking chairs and what have you,

0:50:160:50:19

so when I got called in, I was told, luckily, I had a job, you know?

0:50:190:50:24

Of course, they were asking me, and they're saying,

0:50:240:50:26

"Congratulations," but probably saying, "Oh, that's one less."

0:50:260:50:29

It was a sad, sad feeling.

0:50:290:50:32

I remember when I was leaving where I was

0:50:320:50:34

with some of the people that I worked with, it was quite emotional.

0:50:340:50:38

And I remember the last day I was there, I got to the top

0:50:400:50:44

and I opened the door and I stood and I looked back and I went away

0:50:440:50:47

and that was it, the beginning of the end.

0:50:470:50:50

MACHINERY WHIRS AND RATTLES LOUDLY

0:50:500:50:52

Those of us who were involved in the organisation of it, I think,

0:51:000:51:05

would say we did as much as we could.

0:51:050:51:08

I suppose they held on to hope that Anchor would still survive

0:51:080:51:11

and it always rang in my ears when we were told

0:51:110:51:13

we were getting a job in Anchor.

0:51:130:51:15

The guys in Ferguslie were saying, "Oh, you'll no' last ten years."

0:51:150:51:19

And that's exactly how long it did last, ten years.

0:51:190:51:22

Ferguslie's closure was to be a portent of things to come.

0:51:240:51:28

Ultimately, the decision had to be taken, you know, really,

0:51:280:51:33

there isn't a long-term future for Paisley.

0:51:330:51:36

Redundancies had continued,

0:51:390:51:41

and by the early 1990s, the workforce left at Anchor

0:51:410:51:45

had dwindled to just a few hundred people.

0:51:450:51:48

The decision was finally made

0:51:480:51:51

to close the last of the Paisley thread mills.

0:51:510:51:55

From being a 15-year-old coming out of school

0:51:570:52:01

and not really knowing what work was all about,

0:52:010:52:06

I ended up more or less putting out the lights in Anchor Mills.

0:52:060:52:12

It was such a big operation in Paisley.

0:52:150:52:18

The whole town, at that time, was kind of largely dependent on Coats.

0:52:180:52:23

A lot of the wee bleachworks and dyeworks up the road,

0:52:240:52:27

they all closed.

0:52:270:52:28

On a Friday, one of the girls would buy cream cookies,

0:52:300:52:35

and that was your Friday treat, so that wee...

0:52:350:52:38

They wee Williams bakers all shut.

0:52:380:52:41

I mean, Coats' name wasn't good then.

0:52:410:52:43

Today, Coats PLC is still the world's largest thread manufacturer

0:52:500:52:56

with huge, modern factories all over the world, but none in the UK.

0:52:560:53:02

The area of Ferguslie in Paisley,

0:53:020:53:05

once the engine that drove the world's third-largest company,

0:53:050:53:09

is now the poorest in Scotland.

0:53:090:53:11

The first demolition I ever saw in the mills was in Anchor

0:53:140:53:19

and it went down in the early '70s.

0:53:190:53:21

That was terrible because, at one point, I happened to pass this,

0:53:210:53:25

you know, when half of it was down, and it was just so sad.

0:53:250:53:30

As the organisation had shrunk, one by one, buildings had disappeared.

0:53:300:53:35

In 1982, the most iconic of them all,

0:53:360:53:40

the No 1 Spinning Mill at Ferguslie,

0:53:400:53:43

was scheduled for demolition.

0:53:430:53:46

Ferguslie Mill, to me, was absolutely stunning.

0:53:460:53:49

A stunning building.

0:53:490:53:51

We'll never see the likes of that again.

0:53:510:53:53

Ferguslie Mills, where I worked,

0:54:160:54:18

you're walking through there now and all you see is houses.

0:54:180:54:21

Now that's...

0:54:210:54:22

That a place where 3,000-4,000 people used to work -

0:54:220:54:25

3,000-4,000 families that depended on the income.

0:54:250:54:29

Everybody was standing crying.

0:54:450:54:47

With it all getting pulled down,

0:54:470:54:49

I think Paisley people felt pulled down.

0:54:490:54:51

And I remember standing there and my dad said, "Well, that's it.

0:54:510:54:55

"Life in Paisley is starting to go downhill."

0:54:550:54:58

I'd been coming to Paisley for nearly 30 years to work

0:55:110:55:13

and I get a very intense feeling of something old,

0:55:130:55:20

venerable and useful having gone.

0:55:200:55:23

I'm a Paisley person and I always will be, but I...

0:55:240:55:28

I can't say I'm proud of what the town has become.

0:55:280:55:31

But you just felt it was part of Paisley that had gone

0:55:330:55:35

and it had gone forever and it was never going to come back.

0:55:350:55:38

Well, you take it... Oh, look at how they've built all they houses

0:55:480:55:52

-where the mill used to be.

-Aye.

-I know.

0:55:520:55:54

They did abandon us, because I thought when my lassies grew up,

0:55:540:55:56

my lassies would be into the mill, and by the time they had grown up,

0:55:560:55:59

Ferguslie Mills was shut.

0:55:590:56:01

They should have kept that building.

0:56:010:56:03

They should have...

0:56:030:56:04

-Hi, Davie! How are you?

-Budge up.

0:56:040:56:08

-Hiya.

-You're kind of late.

-Budge up.

0:56:080:56:11

No' changed that much, have I?

0:56:110:56:13

I've not criticised you at all.

0:56:130:56:14

You've not? It's good to see you all.

0:56:140:56:17

David was a very popular mill foreman at Ferguslie for 25 years

0:56:170:56:22

and is remembered fondly by these workers.

0:56:220:56:25

Everybody got on great and we had our differences, of course,

0:56:250:56:28

you know, but you had your social life.

0:56:280:56:30

I get people sometimes come up to me

0:56:300:56:32

and say, "You played at my wedding."

0:56:320:56:35

I says, "Oh, did I?"

0:56:350:56:36

That's right. You played at my pal's.

0:56:360:56:38

"Did you no' remember me?"

0:56:380:56:39

I says, "Oh, aye, you were the one with the white dress, weren't you?"

0:56:390:56:42

But you had so many laughs and it was a way of life.

0:56:420:56:45

And I... I appreciate the fact that it was built in Paisley,

0:56:450:56:49

and gave us all work, and all sorts of jobs for lots of people,

0:56:490:56:53

cos, gosh, we miss them now.

0:56:530:56:56

Here, this is a cheery meeting today, isn't it(?)

0:56:560:56:59

You should have came down earlier!

0:56:590:57:01

You should have came down earlier and heard us talking about...

0:57:010:57:04

I was lucky. I stayed on in the mills

0:57:090:57:12

and I've had a great life in the mills

0:57:120:57:14

and I met a lot of great people in the mills.

0:57:140:57:16

It was very much a family sort of feel.

0:57:180:57:22

I've got friends still that I, you know,

0:57:220:57:25

I worked beside all these years ago.

0:57:250:57:28

I enjoyed the mill.

0:57:280:57:30

I had a good living from it and the mill was good to me.

0:57:300:57:33

The people in Paisley are still great descendants

0:57:340:57:38

of these mill workers and Coats people.

0:57:380:57:40

Paisley was the mills. It still is.

0:57:420:57:45

I wouldn't leave it.

0:57:460:57:48

-NEWSREEL:

-It's as well to remember our history, even the murkier bits.

0:57:530:57:56

Maybe it's not the stuff of kings and wars and high affairs of state.

0:57:560:58:00

Maybe it has more to do with bobbins and mill girls

0:58:000:58:03

and men standing for what they believed in.

0:58:030:58:05

And there can be pride in that, too,

0:58:070:58:09

for it is the history of the people of Paisley,

0:58:090:58:12

the people who made Paisley the town that it is -

0:58:120:58:15

one of the most uniquely independent and successful towns Scotland

0:58:150:58:19

has ever produced, the place to keep your eye on.

0:58:190:58:23

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