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In Britain, more than five million people are now in low-paid work. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
I'm left with ?12.76 every single week. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
Some weeks I'm just really struggling. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
I have to borrow, in fact, off people. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
Whether we're unskilled workers, graduates, or aged 50 or over, | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
many of us could have a future in low pay. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
Everybody is vulnerable. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
Work is the new poor. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
With zero-hour contracts, automation and global competition, | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
employees need to be more adaptable than ever before. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
There's losers in any transition period. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
The question is, what do you do to make sure that some of the losers | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
don't fall through the cracks? | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
So, how tough are these jobs and can anyone do them? | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
20 people, all proud of their work ethic... | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
I'm a grafter. I've always been a grafter. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
I don't ever believe anything is above me or below me. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
Money doesn't just come to you. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
You've got to go out and get it. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:55 | |
..are taking part in a unique experiment. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
I'm your factory manager for the next ten days. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
They're putting themselves to the test, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
trying out a range of low-paid jobs in real British workplaces... | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
So that's what we're trying to achieve. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:07 | |
Better crack on, then, hadn't we? | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
I thought it was going to be easy. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
..and in a specially constructed factory. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
I'll get there. I knew it would be a slow start, but I'll get there. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
Facing an uncertain future in the job market... | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
I want to prove to myself how hard a worker I can be. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
I've taken part to show that there are hard-working people out there. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
..they'll discover what skills you need | 0:01:28 | 0:01:29 | |
to survive in today's low-paid jobs. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
I don't understand. No! | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
Sorry, it's squirting everywhere. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:36 | |
And just like in the real jobs market, it's competitive... | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
Jesus! ..with the least productive worker | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
being laid off after every shift... | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
The shift has finished. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
..until we're left with the most adaptable | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
and most resilient worker of all. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
There's a fierce debate surrounding low-paid work | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
and in this series we get to the heart of it, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
with a unique social experiment that | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
gets right inside the jobs themselves. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
We're going to lift the lid on some of the sectors which employ | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
the most low-paid workers. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
So we'll go from farming to manufacturing, | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
from food preparation to warehouse work, | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
to find out what skills you need to survive in these jobs. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
So who are our brave volunteers? | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
They're from across the UK and from a range of backgrounds. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
And all face the prospect of earning their living from low-paid work. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:41 | |
I know how tough the job market is out there | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
and I want to prove that young people are | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
incredibly driven and hard-working. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
I believe this challenge is going to help me to open my eyes, let's say. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:54 | |
I'm sure I could quite easily manage to work in a factory or clean hotel | 0:02:54 | 0:02:59 | |
rooms, or something like that. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:00 | |
It can't be that difficult. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
And we'll see if they've got the skills needed to survive in some of | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
Britain's toughest low-paid work. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:07 | |
Taking charge of our factory is Mike Matthews. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
He's the managing director of a ?68 million business in Teesside | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
which manufactures plastic car parts, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
employing more than 560 staff | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
and has responsibility for a number of factories across Europe. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
But Mike started his career as an apprentice on the factory floor. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
I think a lot of these low-paid roles are often taken for granted. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
Very demanding, both physically and from a skill point of view. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
I'm really interested in this experiment | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
and seeing what kind of jobs | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
people are expected to do for the minimum wage | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
and I'm sure it's going to be a real eye-opener for me. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
Over the course of the experiment, Mike will be assessing the workers | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
and at the end of each task, he'll send the least productive home. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
Welcome to the factory, guys. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
I'm your factory manager for the next ten days. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
My attitude to management is firm but fair. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
Over the next ten days, we've got some really tough tasks to do | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
and some of the tasks we've got to do are quite dirty jobs. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
The first job is to clean the largest hotel in Leeds, | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
which has about 300 rooms. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
Our workers are going to start with one of the most basic low-paid jobs | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
and it involves rolling up your sleeves and getting your hands dirty, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
because what they're doing is cleaning up other people's mess. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
They'll be working in the hospitality industry. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
It's one of our largest business sectors, worth ?57 billion a year, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:37 | |
employing 4.5 million people | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
and has one of the highest concentrations of low-paid workers. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
It's an industry where keeping running costs to a minimum is vital, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
so that they can offer competitive room rates to customers. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
The workers are on their way to this hotel in Leeds. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
700 guests have checked out, which means 334 dirty rooms | 0:04:56 | 0:05:01 | |
and it's the same story up and down the country, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
with 750,000 hotel rooms from high-end to low-budget, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:08 | |
and they all have one thing in common - | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
they need to be made spotless | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
and in order for this to happen, | 0:05:12 | 0:05:13 | |
there's an army of unseen cleaners on minimum wage. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
But just because it's a low-paid job | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
doesn't mean it's easy and anyone can do it. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
That's what we want the workers to find out. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
As with trainee cleaners at the hotel, they've been paired up | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
and each pair will compete to see how many rooms they can clean | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
to the hotel's standards. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
When they said, like, it's cleaning, yes, it's something I know that | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
I can do. Yeah, yeah. So I'm quite happy about that. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
I'll be quite honest with you, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
the last time I made a bed was when I was a Butlins Redcoat in 1986, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
because my wife just won't let me do things like that. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
While most of the workers are new to the job, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
23-year-old Sabrina is a professional. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
She supports her five-year-old son by cleaning homes for a living. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
I'm quite confident with the job today. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
Everyone can clean, but because I've got the experience, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
I know what to do best, what's better to do | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
and I'm good at managing people. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
I'm going to nail this one. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
While they're working at the hotel, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
our people will be managed by the head of housekeeping. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
They're coming on a very busy, busy weekend. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
We've had a lot of stag groups in, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
hen parties, party people. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
We've had a wedding in. Tour groups have come and gone. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
They will be in for a shock to see how leisure people leave the rooms | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
at the end of a weekend. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:35 | |
Ready, girls? Yep, let's do it. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
Here we go. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
Over the next four and a half hours, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:43 | |
we'll see if the workers have the skills they need to make it as hotel | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
cleaners. They'll need to be fast, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
because the hotel's target is to finish a room in 24 minutes, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
but they'll also need to have an eye for detail, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
because there's a lot to do. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
Andy will have a checklist to make sure that every room our cleaners do | 0:07:00 | 0:07:05 | |
come up to hotel standards. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:06 | |
The bed needs to be made perfectly. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
Two points for that. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:10 | |
A pristine carpet. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
One point for that. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:13 | |
A hospitality tray needs to be made up correctly - | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
six milks, four teas and coffees. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
Two points for that. And in the bathroom, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
everything has to be spotless and streak-free. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
Every room has to be perfect for the guest. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
20 out of 20. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
Anything less and it will fail inspection. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
Room 144. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
Where is? Just up here. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
Where? That's the one. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
The workers have been trained and although hotel cleaners work alone, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
since they're new to the job, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:45 | |
we've paired them up to make things slightly easier. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
Housekeeping. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:50 | |
Let's go. Right. Go, go, go. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
Oh, my word. I think today, the workers will struggle with the beds. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
They'll miss lots of things today. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
You get the rubbish. I'm going to do the bedsheets, OK? | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
Boy, this one is a mess. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
I've got cups under the pillows. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
Pigs are probably cleaner than this. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
I've never seen one of those before. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
Right, I'm going to try and tackle the beds and Kevin's going to tackle | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
the bathroom, and it shouldn't be a problem, but it's hot in here. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:22 | |
31-year-old Kerry works for an HIV charity, earning ?12,000 a year. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:27 | |
I'm employed for 30 hours by the charity | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
and I've definitely worked double. It's sometimes 80 hours a week. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
Kerry could earn more working as a hotel cleaner. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
As could her team-mate Kevin, who's a fisherman by trade. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
There's a lot tasks involved with cleaning a room | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
than there is going out fishing. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
I've had to memorise about 20 different tasks just to do this now | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
and I just hope I can do it. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:53 | |
I'll get on with it and what I do, I do very well. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
You know, let's see if I can do this very well. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
That's not very well. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:02 | |
48-year-old Kevin runs his own fishing business in Southport, near Liverpool. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:10 | |
I really, really love my job. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:11 | |
It's a way of life. It's a way of life that I enjoy. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
I've done a couple of other things along the way, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
but fishing's definitely in the blood. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
When we were young, everybody used to go shrimp fishing in them days | 0:09:21 | 0:09:26 | |
and there was about 40 fishermen off Southport, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
all doing it for a living, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
but there's been a big decline in shrimp fishing over the years. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
There's only five fishermen left in Southport now. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
Kevin's business is making so little money | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
that he's earning less than the minimum wage. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
I work between 15-18 hours a day. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
Certainly six days a week. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:47 | |
Sometimes I have to go into a seventh day. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
My take-home pay is ?663 a month. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:55 | |
He's got just under ?8,000 a year to live on. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
If there is a further decline in his business, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
Kevin would have to find another job. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
If you're put into a position where you've got no food in your cupboard, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:11 | |
you've got children that you're bringing up and that, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
if a cleaning job comes along, I think you've just got to do it. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
If you're asking me, you know, would I like to do that job? | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
No, I'd rather go fishing, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:21 | |
but if I've got to do it, I've got to do it. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
So, will Kevin be able to turn his hand to hotel cleaning? | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
There is a lot of niggly things I wouldn't normally do, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
getting on my hands and knees, polishing the floors, | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
stuff that's low down. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:40 | |
What I would personally do is, I'd get rid of that towel | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
and put the bins in, bin liners in. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
Sabrina cleans for a living, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
so she's taken charge of her team-mate Martin, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
who is a migrant worker from Bulgaria. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
Do all the bins first, because if I'm still doing the bed, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
it's just going everywhere. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
Do you get what I mean? And she's got a very definite strategy. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
Instead of working at speed, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
Sabrina's decided to focus on quality. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
I am a perfectionist. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:08 | |
If things aren't done a certain way, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
I'm going to do it over and over again until it's done properly. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
But Martin's done a lot of low-paid jobs before, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
and he's not convinced that Sabrina's right. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
While the other teams crack on... | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
Well, the green light did come on. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
..Romanian-born Violeta and ex-graphic designer Rob can't even | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
get into their first room. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
Head of housekeeping Andy has turned up to find out what's wrong. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:40 | |
Just let me check it's working before... | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
It's working. And when there is only 24 minutes to do a room, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
every second counts. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:48 | |
SHE SPEAKS FRENCH | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
Ever since customers could compare hotel rooms | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
at the click of a button, | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
there's been a price war raging in the hotel industry. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
To keep room rates low, hotels cut costs, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
including how they employ staff. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
At this hotel, cleaners are on zero-hour contracts, | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
typically working around 40 hours a week for the minimum wage. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
But many businesses have gone one step further, | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
and have contracted their cleaning services out. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
Andy, why do hotels use agencies? | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
The outsource companies will charge you a rock-bottom price per room, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
and that's how they do it. That kind of entices the general managers into | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
thinking, "Payroll, payroll, payroll." | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
And I think, in a lot of hotels, that's where the problem lies, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
because there is no care and there is kind of no respect. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
So Andy's under pressure to come in on budget. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
Hey, guys, are you all right? Yeah. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:43 | |
I'll just have a quick check. Which is why every room has to be finished | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
in 24 minutes. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:48 | |
If not, the hotel might turn to a contractor who do it for less. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
Oh, my goodness, what's this? | 0:12:52 | 0:12:53 | |
So the staff have to be 100% productive, | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
no matter what state the rooms are in. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
Somebody's had a tortilla party. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
Yeah. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
OK, your hoover should just get that up normally, all right? | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
Sure, yeah. No problem. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
Nobody's ever got anything past me. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
Hence the reason I run a tight ship. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
Now, my dear, what have you done wrong? | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
Yeah, we know it needs a sheet and we know it needs | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
a mattress protector. I was going to make it and move it. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
Fine, and get everything else done until that comes, OK? | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
OK. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:23 | |
"What are you doing wrong?" | 0:13:25 | 0:13:26 | |
Don't patronise me. I'm not six. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
An hour later, Violeta and Rob are still trying to catch up. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
Oh, it's a lot of hassle, isn't it, you know. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
Look, I'm sweating already. Let me, let me, let me. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
My friend's the one that's doing all the work! | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
I've worked in hotels before, but... | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
You know, I think I'd rather do something a bit different now. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
Now 63 years old, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
Robert used to have a well-paid career as a graphic designer. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
You always hope that things will continue - like earning a good wage, | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
but it didn't happen, so I've ended up with no savings, | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
so, really, that's why I have to keep working. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
Of course, at the end of the day, when you've earned 80 quid and | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
in the past you've earned 300 quid a day for a job, then it's very, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
very difficult. From the benefit of hindsight, I would now say, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:21 | |
of course, if you're a freelancer or whatever, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
save some money and look after yourself when you get old, | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
or you'll end up like me. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
Rob's been doing low-paid jobs for the past two years, | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
but he can't find one he likes. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
I do some good corners, don't I? | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
Not a good corner! | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
Violeta's determined to make up for the time they lost, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
and she and Rob are ready to start their second room. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
I'm wiping bloody piss off the floor. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
Did you say someone pissed on the floor? | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
Yes! Even though she cleans people's homes for a living, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
Sabrina's finding hotel work very different. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
I feel for these people that have to do this day in, day out. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
Who would want to do a job like this, wiping piss off a floor? | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
I don't think it's fair. People get above minimum wage | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
stacking tins at Tesco. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
I'd apply for all the jobs in the world before I did this. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
Like a third of cleaners, our workers are earning minimum wage, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
and in the UK as a whole, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:26 | |
there are nearly 1.5 million jobs on the same rate. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:31 | |
But is low pay just part and parcel of our economy? | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
I've come to the TUC, which represents 5.5 million workers, | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
to speak to Frances O'Grady. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
Aren't some jobs just so basic that actually they don't deserve to have | 0:15:41 | 0:15:46 | |
higher pay, that actually minimum wage is what they're worth? | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
Look, everybody deserves a fair wage to live on, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
a wage that allows you to bring up a family and allows you to live a | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
decent life, not just survive week to week. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
We've had a low pay problem in the past. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
Today we've got a low-pay epidemic. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
The reality now is that the majority of children living in poverty have | 0:16:06 | 0:16:12 | |
at least one of their parents in a job, earning a wage, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
but they are still living in poverty. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
How have we got to this? How have we got to this position? | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
We're one of the wealthiest nations on the planet, | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
and yet you are talking about the exploitation of this labour market | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
happening under our noses. How has that happened? | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
I think the problem is we are on a downward cycle of low wages and | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
low demand in the economy. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
Consumers do have a role to play. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
We are actually incentivising employers not to invest, | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
not to improve productivity, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
because why bother if you can hire cheap labour? | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
For a middle-class family on a decent income | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
that likes nice, clean hotel rooms, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
why should they care that somebody else is getting paid minimum wage to | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
do the jobs that means that they get the things that they want? | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
Because they are next. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:00 | |
I mean, this used to be seen as a blue-collar problem. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
We've seen it spread into white-collar jobs | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
and industries and professions, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
where even airline pilots in no-frills airlines are now finding | 0:17:09 | 0:17:14 | |
themselves on zero-hour contracts, so, you know, if they can | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
be vulnerable, everybody can be vulnerable. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
I've done them. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
Well, you need to unplug, yeah? | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
The teams have been working for just over an hour. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
And none of them have managed to finish a room in 24 minutes. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
Please, please, please, please. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
Some of them haven't finished their first. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
It's OK. They're not perfect, | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
and I'm not leaving any room till it's perfect. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
Violeta and Rob are one of the fastest teams. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
Even though they started late, they're onto their third room. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
Like this. You understand? | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
That's what I did. And then we have to do like this. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
Yeah? Did you understand? | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
She's quite bossy. | 0:17:58 | 0:17:59 | |
Her favourite little catchphrase is, like, "Do you understand?" | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
As if I'm a complete idiot. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
I want to do it very fast. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
And I want to do a good job. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
DOOR KNOCKS | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
Hello. How are we doing? | 0:18:11 | 0:18:12 | |
Nice. Are you OK? We got this far... Yeah. Yeah? | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
Who's been doing the bathrooms? | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
Well, we've both been doing it. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
I am honest. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
I am honest. But I don't want to hurt... | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
No, you won't, really. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:26 | |
After he finished, I go there, because I want to be the best. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
OK. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:30 | |
Born in Romania, Violeta started factory work at the age of 18, | 0:18:32 | 0:18:37 | |
but always wanted to do something else. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
I have a degree in philology... | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
in Romania. I studied English and French. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
Violeta was determined to have a better life, so just two years ago, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
at the age of 49, she moved to the UK, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
and now lives in East London in a one-roomed flat | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
with her 16-year-old daughter. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
It's a little bit hard to take the decision to change your place, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:03 | |
to change your country, your house, to start again, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
to live in another place in another country, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
to change everything. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
OK, please take a seat. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:12 | |
At the moment, she's a driving instructor for a franchise, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
and works long hours to make ends meet. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
Sometimes my daughter asks me to buy something and I tell her, | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
"Jasmine, I'm sorry, but Mummy hasn't money." | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
First of all, we have to pay what we have to pay, rent, franchise, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
but I work hard now, because I know that in two, three years, | 0:19:31 | 0:19:36 | |
I will change my life and I will live better. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
You've scored very well so far. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
A couple of points, OK? | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
Your pillows? Yeah? | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
You need to have one pillow for each side of the bed. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
Yes, OK, I understand. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
Perfect. OK. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:51 | |
It's halfway through the shift, | 0:19:54 | 0:19:55 | |
and Andy's inspecting the workers' rooms. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
He's using the 20-point checklist to score each element. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
Straight away, you can tell that things are not right. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
There's all gunge still in the plughole down there. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
There's all bits that have not been cleaned. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
The top of the bin has not been cleaned. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
I'm going into the bedroom. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
The general sort of dusting is not very good. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
The spoons have not been cleaned properly. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
The bed has been rushed. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
So, we've got marks here and here. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
Andy relies on his own cleaners to turn out perfect guest-ready rooms | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
time after time. You can see that they've tried, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
but I would have to send another cleaner in here to rectify it, | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
because when a guest walks into the bedroom, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
the first thing they see is the bed. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
Sub-standard rooms cost time and money. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
The price war has meant hotels have already stripped back running costs, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
but the Government's National Living Wage means that every worker will be | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
paid an additional ?900 a year before tax. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
Can employers afford it? | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
Economics editor Chris Giles has been looking at the figures. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
It will cost employers about ?4 billion a year. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:04 | |
Wages and salaries are about ?900 billion. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
Although four billion sounds a huge amount of money, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
it's less than half of 1% of what they pay anyway to employees, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
so there is clearly a case for giving it a go. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:19 | |
Raising the bottom end of the wages so that we can see whether we can | 0:21:19 | 0:21:25 | |
withstand it as a nation. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:26 | |
So if people are earning more, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
are they going to spend more and is that good for the economy? | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
People who get the new minimum wage will have more money and they will | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
almost certainly spend it. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:35 | |
But this money doesn't come from nowhere. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
It comes either from the owners of companies, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
who will have lower profits, | 0:21:41 | 0:21:42 | |
or from everyone in Britain who might have to face higher prices and | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
they spend less. We shouldn't look at the minimum wage as a way of | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
boosting demand or spending in the economy, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
but this is a redistribution, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
it doesn't generate money for the country as a whole. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
So what could the negative effects be? | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
Well, the negative effect is that people might in the end find | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
getting jobs much more difficult, | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
not because they're thrown out of work because of the minimum wage, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
but because companies will take decisions to have things like | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
self-service checkouts, or self-service breakfast. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
It is those sorts of decisions over time that companies make which | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
will mean that people in certain areas might find it hard over the | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
medium term to find jobs. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
Kevin and Kerry have started their second room, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
but Andy's not happy with their first. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
Just have a look at this room, guys, please, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
and if you can tell me what still needs to be done in here. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
The towels need to be turned around. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
Yeah. And the rest of this chrome needs polishing. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
OK. I'll... Let me tell you what you need to do. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
You need to get one room finished completely | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
before you move onto the next. OK. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
Right. Because that's where mistakes happen. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
And when you've finished cleaning a room, make sure any rubbish, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
like the shampoo bottle here, make sure that is picked up. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
Now Kevin and Kerry will need to try and get both rooms up to standard. | 0:22:55 | 0:23:00 | |
And that will make them slower. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
I shouldn't have left it without it being done, so I can't blame... | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
I can't blame Kev for that. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
So far, none of our teams have cleaned a room | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
to Andy's satisfaction. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
Hi, guys. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
And there's one element that's causing them all to lose points. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
There's no sheet on the bed. Ahh! | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
There's curly hairs on the bed. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
We didn't put a sheet on the bed. So, you know, guys, | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
if I sold this to a guest... | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
Yeah, of course, of course. I'd have to refund them. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
Totally, totally, you know... | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
Out of order. I can't have that. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:35 | |
That was... We missed it. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
Speed. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
Making sure the beds are clean, with clean sheets, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
is part and parcel of working in housekeeping. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
It's part of the housekeepers' job to make sure that that bed is | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
perfect for the guests coming in. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
Hotels have cut costs by outsourcing services. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
And in this hotel, the laundry's done by an outside company. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
But it's up to the cleaners to check it's perfect. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
Another one, please. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
What's wrong with this one? This hole. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
All within their 24-minute slot. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
And this one's dirty. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:07 | |
Andy's come to inspect Sabrina and Martin's second room. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
You all right, guys? Right, OK. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
That's a reject. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:16 | |
There's a stain there. OK. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
There's a stain there. I didn't see that. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
It's another room that's failed because of the laundry. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
But will the bathroom Martin's done to Sabrina's instructions | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
be up to standard? | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
Take off your shoes, please. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
My shoes don't make a mark. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
Your towels. That's perfect. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
Well done. So, for a first time, that's very, very good. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
However, you need, with your chrome, to buff it off, OK? | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
There's a few streaks on there. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
I'm not happy. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
We need to fix everything, so all these beds are coming off. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
I'm getting really sick and tired of this. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
This is how housekeeping is, my dear. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
INDISTINCT | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
OK, don't be angry with me, yeah? | 0:25:00 | 0:25:01 | |
It's not my fault. Yeah, but you're there. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
You're wanting to rush. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
And this is why I tried to explain to you, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
I'd prefer to do at least two or three rooms and we get full marks. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
If you don't start rushing. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:11 | |
Well, you've seen the other room and you thought it was perfect. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
You saw what the guy said. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
OK, it's not just my fault. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:17 | |
We are a team. I'm not saying it's your fault. It's both of our faults. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
But you're sat there and you're more bothered about | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
what everybody else is doing. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
I'm BLEEP off, I really am BLEEP off. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
Hello. Hello. How are we doing? | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
That's a reject. Cos there's a stain. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
Wow. I didn't see that, did you? | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
OK? There is a stain there. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
Stephanie and Jenny both work in the catering industry, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
but have never been hotel cleaners before. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
That would be a total fail because of that. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
That. That. Why? Because the guests... | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
No, what I mean is... Why are we the end quality control on the laundry? | 0:25:50 | 0:25:55 | |
In the hotel industry, you get rejects. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
Right. This happens in all the hotels. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
We haven't picked up... This is real life. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
This is... Can I finish? | 0:26:02 | 0:26:03 | |
Yeah. Can I finish? This is cleaning a room. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
This is getting your rejects. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:06 | |
We don't get charged for the rejects. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
They get tied in a knot, gone down the chute. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
Is 50% rejects normal? | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
I think you're getting besides the point. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
Let me finish. Regardless of the rejects system, that's not your concern. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
The bed's dirty. That needs to be changed. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
Can I finish, then, now? | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
Yes, of course. We have done jobs two, three times. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
OK. And that was our frustration. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
OK. Let's change this bed. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:27 | |
Let me finish. Let me finish now. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
Please... I feel your frustration, but this is... | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
Over and done with. This is real life. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
This is how it happens in hotels. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
Fine. You know? You've told me that three times. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
End of story. OK? Can we change this bed? We've got to get on. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
OK. OK. Let's get... | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
That must be so demoralising for anybody who works doing this all the time. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
It is just... You are up against the clock, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
you are trying to maintain the standard. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
The workers who do this, it makes me admire them even more. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
Stephanie stood there and argued with me, | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
totally disrespectful towards myself. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
If she was a member of my team starting training, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
she would be monitored for a week and if her attitude hadn't changed, | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
I would ask her to leave. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
If you're on a zero-hour contract, your rotas will be drawn up | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
by managers who can either give you work or decide not to. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
Pleased to meet you. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
I've come to speak to economics editor Larry Elliott, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
who's concerned about the rights of casualised workers. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
You're someone on minimum wage. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
You're on a zero-hours contract. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
You're living hand-to-mouth. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
How do you protect yourself in that situation? | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
What can you do? Protecting yourself if you're on a minimum wage job | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
or a zero-hour contract is pretty hard. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
Why has that happened? | 0:27:40 | 0:27:41 | |
Well, one of the reasons we have low pay in the UK is because | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
the employers have the whip hand over the workers. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:50 | |
I mean, we have seen a dramatic fall in the number of people who are | 0:27:50 | 0:27:56 | |
members of trade unions since the peak in the 1970s. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
Most of the new industries now tend to be non-unionised. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:05 | |
And that means it's quite hard for workers to demand the sort of | 0:28:05 | 0:28:10 | |
pay increases that they might have had 30 or 40 years ago. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
It seems to me there is a generation | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
who don't even think about joining a union. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
It's not even something that crosses their mind. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
Why has there been such a shift? | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
I think as the economy developed and new industries grew up, | 0:28:23 | 0:28:29 | |
they tended to not be unionised right from the start. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:34 | |
And I think the trade unions have been quite poor at recruiting in | 0:28:34 | 0:28:39 | |
some of those new areas, I think... | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
They've struggled to recruit people in those service sector economies, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:48 | |
which tend to be much more atomised than the old big factories anyway. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no... | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
Oh, my God. That was all right. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
The teams have been working for three hours, | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
and by now most of them are on to their third, even fourth room. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
Open the drawers. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:11 | |
Your coffee - you've done. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:14 | |
One cup's done... | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
But the combination of working at speed and keeping up standards is | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
taking its toll. On a hot day, I'd have an absolute heart attack. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
See, people think things are so easy, | 0:29:26 | 0:29:30 | |
and when you're on a time schedule to try and do something... | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
Christ. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
You see how we work. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
My blouse is... All the time I sweat. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
And these women which are working here, they work very hard, | 0:29:44 | 0:29:49 | |
they work a lot. I can't understand, they are so less paid. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
Immigrants like me left their houses, their families, | 0:29:56 | 0:30:00 | |
and come here and work. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
SHE SNIFFLES | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
It's not fair. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:09 | |
No, it's not fair. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
A third of all cleaners are foreign-born. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
It's one of the most popular jobs amongst migrants, and in this hotel, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
all of the cleaners are immigrants with four different languages spoken | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
between them. All your workers are migrants. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
Why is that? | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
Erm, I don't know, if I'm being honest. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
I put adverts out, we look for staff. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
All the applicants that I do seem to get... | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
come from Eastern European staff. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:46 | |
I don't understand when you see these people say | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
there is no work available. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
We want to work. Well, I put adverts out all the time when I need staff, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
and nobody wants to clean. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
Nobody wants to do it. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:57 | |
Martin, don't forget to spray the air freshener. OK. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
With a quarter of an hour left, | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
most teams are on to their sixth room. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
Martin. Yeah? | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
Can you move this? Yeah. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
Yeah? Quickly, though. No walking. Running. OK. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
He said, leave the doors open, that's making it worse. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
You're panicking too much, Judy, calm down. I am. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
Go, go, go... | 0:31:19 | 0:31:20 | |
Sabrina and Martin are trying to do a seventh room to get extra points | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
from Andy. Please be nice. Please be nice. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
They've increased their speed, but Kerry and Kevin are much slower. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
It's taking them nearly an hour to do each room. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
Well, Kerry's going at it 100mph and she's trying her best. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
And every time she gets to 100mph | 0:31:37 | 0:31:38 | |
I'm bringing her straight back down to 50. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
So... Well, 55. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:42 | |
We're doing all right. We'll be fine. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
We'll probably... We're not as quick as everyone else, | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
but it don't matter. Jesus, have you got any sandpaper? | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
Of the 70 rooms that our teams have cleaned so far, | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
not one has come up to standard. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
Good afternoon, housekeeping. | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
I am not giving up till I get one perfect single bed. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
Andy's scoring them out of 20. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
Everything's very clean in here. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
But he's still on the search for one | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
that can be let out to a paying guest. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
Very good bathroom. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:14 | |
Sorry, I thought you were still in there. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
I have to say, I'm very impressed with this room. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
We need to finish this room. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
Rob! Help me, because the time is passing! | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
Attention to detail is spot on. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
Full points. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:30 | |
The first one so far today. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
OK, unplug, unplug, unplug. Unplug. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
Is that everything done? Yeah. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
Just light off, doorstop out. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
Done. I need a sick bucket. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
The task is over. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
Now Andy will finish the room inspections and feed the results | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
back to the boss Mike Matthews at the factory, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
where the teams will find out | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
who had the right skills to be hotel cleaners | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
and who will be going home. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
At the beginning when we went in, I was like, yeah, do this, bam, bam. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
And I was like, we've done it right. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
But then when Andy came in, he was like, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
you've failed on this and you've failed on that. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
Little things that could fail you, and I was like, wow. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
"You will be judged for every little thing that you've done today." | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
They were his exact words. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
First, Mike will pay them for the work they did as hotel cleaners. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
You've all worked extremely hard, | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
so now I would like to give you your wages. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
Zach... It's a minimum-wage job, paid at a pre-April rates, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
so for 4.5 hours, they've earned ?30.15 before tax. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
Wow. That wouldn't even pay one bill in my house. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:38 | |
If you double that, I think that would be fair. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
But did the workers show the skills they need to be hotel cleaners? | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
Like having an eye for detail and being able to work at speed. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
Our factory manager, Mike, is analysing the data to find out. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:52 | |
Every room cleaned has been scored out of a possible 20 points. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
What we see on this scoresheet is some really, really low scores. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
We've got fives, we've got sixes, we've got sevens. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
Nothing like 20. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
What about their overall scores? | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
The hotel's cleaners would score a total of 220 in the same time. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
None of our teams got close to that. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
The lowest team scored 58. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
We all take cleaning for granted. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
We all think it's an easy job. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
Yet here we have two guys who could | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
only achieve 25% of the expected standard. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
Not only did they not achieve the standard, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
they didn't clean anywhere near the number of rooms that the hotel would | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
expect them to clean. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:34 | |
And even the most productive team were way off what | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
the hotel would expect, with a score of 115. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:42 | |
They were the only team to actually score a perfect score | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
of 20 out of 20, and that was only achieved once. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
And that team also had the winning score, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
so they're at the top of the leaderboard. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
Oh, my God. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
I'm first! Rob, thank you very much. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
You are the best colleague. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
Only with you, though. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:04 | |
I couldn't have done it with anybody else. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
And how did the rest of our teams do? | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
Who came last and will be going home? | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
Kevin and Kerry were one of the slowest teams. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
They only finished five rooms in all. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
And most of their rooms only scored half marks or less. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
Honestly, it's all right. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
They'll be the ones to leave our experiment and go home. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
Unfortunately, you know, we didn't do enough. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
If it was filleting fish or lifting big, heavy boxes, | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
I'd have been top of that tree. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
At the end of the day, if you've got to go, you've got to go. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
It's been a hard first task for everyone. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
Pam's found herself nearly at the bottom of the leaderboard. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
I said, "It's cleaning, anyone can clean." | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
Well, you know what? No, they can't. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:51 | |
Not to... Well, it proves it. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
I thought I could clean. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:54 | |
No-one's going to want to come to me house now, are they? | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
It's day two of our investigation into low-paid work, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
and today our workers are back in our specially constructed factory. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
And if they thought hotel cleaning was a dirty job, | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
then today is going to be even tougher. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
In the UK, we produce around 200 million tonnes of waste every year. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:21 | |
That's three tonnes for each of us. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
We'll be expected to recycle half of our household waste by 2020. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:28 | |
It's an awful lot of waste to sort. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
But that's exactly what pickers do every day up and down the country. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:35 | |
The recycling industry processes | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
over 77 million tonnes of waste a year, | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
selling much of the end product onto the commodity market. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
And as more waste is recycled, the industry is forecast to expand. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:48 | |
It could create around 10,000 jobs in the next ten years, | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
and many of those jobs will be as pickers. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
That's what we want our people to try out. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
Will they have the skills needed to do the job? | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
Good morning, everybody. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
ALL: Good morning. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
Today, you will be put to the test in our factory. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
Everything in here is based on real conditions, | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
except in here we can measure your work in a controlled environment. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:14 | |
Today's job lies behind the doors behind you. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
And it will mean getting your hands dirty. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
Good luck to you all. Mike, they are all yours. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
OK, are we all ready? ALL: Yes. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
Let's go and do the next job. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:27 | |
ALL: Wow. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:31 | |
We've asked a waste management company to bring in | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
20 tonnes of mixed rubbish to the factory. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
That's paper, plastics, rotting food and dirty nappies. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
And the workers will be sorting through it to find material that can | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
be recycled. You can keep up the pressure, can you? | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
I'm fine with this. This is... This suits me. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
We've split the 18 remaining workers into six teams of three, | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
who'll compete to take as much recyclable material as they can off | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
the conveyor belt. And put it into the red containers. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
As long as we work as a team. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
Yeah, that's the main thing. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:08 | |
Exactly. We'll be a team, yeah? | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
Yeah. Definitely. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
Whichever team picks out the most will win. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
It's hand-eye coordination. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
In, out, in, out, in, out, in, out. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
But we're going to break them in gently. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
At first, the conveyor belts will run at half speed and our teams will | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
be picking from cleaned-up rubbish. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
The dirty stuff will come later. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
Is anyone's glasses steaming up? Yes. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
OK, guys. Task for the first hour is to pick paper. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:37 | |
That's it. Off we go. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:38 | |
KLAXON WAILS | 0:38:38 | 0:38:39 | |
Let's go, go, go. Come on, blue team. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
Oh, my days. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
All right, all right. Bloody Nora. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
I can't see a thing, my bloody things are steamed up. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
That's paper. I thought it was a book or something. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
Daily Mail. Just pick out what you can. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
You don't realise that they are actually, | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
these are human beings that are doing the jobs like this. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
Wahey. What are you looking for in the workers? | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
It's anybody who can do the job. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:04 | |
We look for really reliable people. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
We look for hard workers. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:07 | |
And if you had to give one piece of advice to the pickers, | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
what would that be? Just dig in and stick with it. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
Our workers will be measured against estimates of what an | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
experienced picker can achieve. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
So their target is to pick out over 110kg of recyclable material | 0:39:18 | 0:39:23 | |
an hour, but with a team on each side of the conveyor belt, | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
they are also competing against each other, | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
to grab as much material as they can. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
The pink and blue teams are working at the same conveyor belt, | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
so Violeta, who won yesterday's task, and Pam, | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
who just avoided being last, are going head-to-head. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
OK, OK, OK. Paper, paper. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
I came to show the people that I know to do something. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
For this reason I came. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
Otherwise, stay at home and do something else. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
Violeta is constantly saying, "Where is paper? | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
"Where is paper? Where is paper? Where is paper?" | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
It's just her way of being focused. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
To be working across from Violeta is actually quite a blessing for me, | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
because you are all constantly trying to keep up with the person | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
that's faster than you, and she is a machine. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
44-year-old Pam lives near Birmingham and has been out of work | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
since bringing up her four children. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
It's going to be minimum wage, I think, for me, | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
because I don't have qualifications or skills. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
Even though Pam's partner Graham has a secure job at a local company as a | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
welder and forklift truck driver... | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
Coffee? Please. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
..they're finding it difficult to get by. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
It's not for you! My partner, Graham, brings home minimum wage. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:40 | |
He works full-time. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:41 | |
We barely scrape by. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
He is paid on a Friday afternoon. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
By the time the bills are paid, | 0:40:45 | 0:40:46 | |
we've no money till the following Friday. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
And I don't think we should have to live like that, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
not when he works so hard. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
So, you know, I'm prepared to just jump in and do anything to try and | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
make life a little easier. So after 20 years out of work, | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
Pam's determined to get back into the job market. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
This computer is incredibly slow. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
It's held together with Sellotape. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
But for a new laptop, I need money, and for money, I need a job. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
Until four years ago, | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
her health problems meant that she was unable to work. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
I spent ten years as a wheelchair user, | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
and ballooned to just under 23st. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
Just sort of looked at myself and thought, "Nah, sod that. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
"I've had enough." So I've lost 9st. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:28 | |
Although I'm a lot smaller in stature now, | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
I think I'm a lot bigger in personality, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
attitude, determination. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
So far, Pam's applied for over 100 jobs. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
Do you know what? I don't have a dream job, I just want a job. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
Guys. You're picking really well, yeah? | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
But try not to pass it hand to hand. Try to get bigger pieces, yeah? | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
You've got a really good fast pick rate, | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
but you're only taking very small pieces at a time. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:57 | |
Try and grab a handful like that. | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
Yeah, yeah. OK. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
Good stuff. Well done. I was given some good advice by the boss. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
So I've now gone from... | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
..to... | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
So which of the workers would make it as a picker? | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
On the green team, | 0:42:15 | 0:42:16 | |
ex-graphic designer Rob is struggling to keep up. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
I think more is going on the floor than anywhere else. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
I imagine there are very few people | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
who would enjoy sorting rubbish out all day long. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
I certainly wouldn't. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
I need a new bin! But on the same team, | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
migrant worker Martin is forging ahead. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
Yesterday, he wanted to clean hotel rooms faster than his team-mate. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
Today, he is able to go at his own speed. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
I like this job better than yesterday. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
You come in from a different country | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
and you try to prove yourself. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
It doesn't matter what job you are doing. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
I always say that. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:57 | |
26-year-old Martin left Bulgaria five years ago. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 | |
I decided to come to England, | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
because I didn't see much opportunity in my country. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
I was working there. I started to work at quite a young age, | 0:43:08 | 0:43:12 | |
but you're working, for example, for ?200 or less, | 0:43:12 | 0:43:16 | |
and I don't know how you're going to manage to survive after. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:21 | |
I came here to improve myself. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
Now he lives with his brother and their family in a shared house, | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
and has two minimum-wage jobs to be able to pay the rent. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:30 | |
HE SPEAKS OWN LANGUAGE | 0:43:30 | 0:43:32 | |
My English still was totally broken. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:35 | |
I didn't even know how to communicate | 0:43:35 | 0:43:37 | |
a little bit with the people. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:39 | |
Every job he's done since coming to the UK has been for minimum wage. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:44 | |
I started as a strawberry picker. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:45 | |
I was working as a labourer. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:47 | |
I was doing the gardening. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
Working in a car wash. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:50 | |
A bit of painting as well. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:52 | |
I grew up with hard work, even from a child. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:57 | |
I started, I remember, I was six or seven years old. | 0:43:57 | 0:44:00 | |
I was picking up tobacco, potatoes, all the basic farming work. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:05 | |
I'm quite happy, actually, after physical work. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:09 | |
After a long day, I'm satisfied for myself that I've been very helpful, | 0:44:09 | 0:44:14 | |
not only for me and for my boss, the customers are happy also. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:18 | |
There is opportunity for a better life and I am fighting for it. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:22 | |
OK, we're going to do a change of your bin. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:24 | |
Are you ready? Yes, please. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:26 | |
Thank you. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
Picking is a tough job, and it's not to everyone's taste. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:34 | |
In some recycling plants, nearly all the pickers are from abroad. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:38 | |
So I asked economist Kamal Ahmed | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
why we British are choosing not to do the dirty jobs. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:45 | |
What is the situation, Kamal, with migrant workers? | 0:44:45 | 0:44:48 | |
Are British people lazy? | 0:44:48 | 0:44:49 | |
HE SCOFFS | 0:44:49 | 0:44:51 | |
Are there certain jobs that they just don't want to do because they | 0:44:51 | 0:44:54 | |
think of them as being dirty? I don't really agree with that notion. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
I think that migration into the UK | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
brings different types of skills and | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
is broadly, by many economists, seen as a value to a country, | 0:45:03 | 0:45:08 | |
because people come here, they want to work, they will then pay taxes, | 0:45:08 | 0:45:12 | |
that is therefore good for the country in general. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:15 | |
Countries with very low levels of migration have a big problem with | 0:45:15 | 0:45:19 | |
ageing populations. Look at Japan. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:21 | |
They struggle to think about how they can afford | 0:45:21 | 0:45:25 | |
their ageing population, | 0:45:25 | 0:45:27 | |
so migration is seen by many economists as a good thing. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:30 | |
But of course, it does create challenges. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:32 | |
With migration as it is, | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
do you think in certain sectors it keeps the wages down because | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
migrants are prepared to work for less? | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
If you look at the British Chamber of Commerce latest survey, | 0:45:39 | 0:45:43 | |
they do say that migration has kept | 0:45:43 | 0:45:45 | |
a downward pressure on wages in some areas. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
Migrants will come here, often for a relatively short period. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:53 | |
They will want to work incredibly hard and incredibly long hours, | 0:45:53 | 0:45:57 | |
sometimes, for lower amounts of money. | 0:45:57 | 0:46:00 | |
That does set up a challenge for British people who are here, | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
who may think that those jobs aren't the kind of jobs they want to do. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:07 | |
But I think that rather than think, right, | 0:46:07 | 0:46:09 | |
the problem is migration and therefore we should stop that, | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
the issue is surely that British people who don't want to do the type | 0:46:12 | 0:46:17 | |
of jobs that they may say migrants are doing, well, | 0:46:17 | 0:46:20 | |
should go and try different sectors and new training. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
So it's all about this idea of constantly improving your skills, | 0:46:23 | 0:46:28 | |
of constantly making yourself | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
more valuable as an employee for employers. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
So far, the workers have had it easy. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:38 | |
Now they're going to be exposed to the real thing. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:41 | |
Instead of cleaned-up rubbish, | 0:46:41 | 0:46:43 | |
it'll be dirty waste on the conveyor belts, | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
just like pickers up and down the country face every day. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
This is where you really find out | 0:46:49 | 0:46:51 | |
whether or not they want to do the job. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:53 | |
Yucky stuff, girls, | 0:46:55 | 0:46:57 | |
including food waste. | 0:46:57 | 0:46:58 | |
This smells revolting. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:02 | |
Ah, I've just touched it! | 0:47:02 | 0:47:04 | |
Oh, my God. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:06 | |
MAN GROANS | 0:47:06 | 0:47:08 | |
Smelly. Something smells really bad. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:11 | |
Oh, no! | 0:47:11 | 0:47:13 | |
Do you see that? | 0:47:13 | 0:47:15 | |
It's smelly, dusty, I think you'll get some disease from that. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
Oh, what is that? Oh, my God. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:22 | |
It's almost like a dead dog coming down. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
Some of the things we get through the pick lines | 0:47:27 | 0:47:29 | |
are contaminated sharps, | 0:47:29 | 0:47:30 | |
needles, Stanley knives, dirty nappies, bags of dog mess. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:34 | |
This is a killer. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:37 | |
I've got asthma. I don't know how people could stand here and not, | 0:47:37 | 0:47:41 | |
like, actually have masks on. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:43 | |
I feel a little bit tight. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:46 | |
My nose is getting a bit sore. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
And I started coughing. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:49 | |
I just feel really uncomfortable. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:51 | |
I feel like I'm going to start losing my voice. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:54 | |
Oh, my God. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:56 | |
This is unbelievable. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:57 | |
How hard is it when you first become a picker? | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
BOTH GROAN | 0:48:01 | 0:48:02 | |
Well, you get... There is the fatigue side of it. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:06 | |
The first thing everyone gets is motion sickness. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:08 | |
Yeah, motion sickness. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
You get it all the time. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:11 | |
They can faint on the lines. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:13 | |
They need water. You have to get them to hospital sometimes. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:15 | |
Yeah. You just feel dizzy all the time. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:17 | |
Cos you're constantly doing that, | 0:48:17 | 0:48:18 | |
so you're going to feel sick. Why do people stick at it? | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
Just have to know what you're doing it for, so, | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
basically saving the environment. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
If you think about it all the time at work, | 0:48:25 | 0:48:27 | |
you just feel good and you just want to keep doing it. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:29 | |
Tell me about some of the worst stuff that you've seen. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
I've heard they found over-a-metre-long iguana in there. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:36 | |
A reptile? I personally have seen a deer's head, | 0:48:36 | 0:48:39 | |
and a horse's head as well. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:41 | |
First of all, where do you even get a horse's head from...? | 0:48:41 | 0:48:43 | |
And someone just put it in the bin? | 0:48:43 | 0:48:45 | |
Yeah. "What do we do with this? Put it..." | 0:48:45 | 0:48:47 | |
I think about it all the time. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:48 | |
How could you be that nasty, to put a dead horse in the bin? Yeah. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:52 | |
It's piling up a bit. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:55 | |
What is that, plastic? | 0:48:55 | 0:48:57 | |
An hour into the task, and Judy is one of the least productive workers. | 0:48:57 | 0:49:02 | |
I'm finding this very hard. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:04 | |
I thought that the machines separated stuff. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
I'm just amazed at having to stand at this assembly line and doing all | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
this. Yeah... | 0:49:10 | 0:49:12 | |
it's very strenuous, it's very hard. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
I think it just gives an insight into what kind of work people are | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
doing on a low wage. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:20 | |
Being in low-paid work is something Judy never thought | 0:49:20 | 0:49:24 | |
would happen to her. Until the crash eight years ago, | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
she was living a very different kind of life, | 0:49:27 | 0:49:29 | |
earning ?40,000 a year as a mortgage adviser. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
The market was very buoyant. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:35 | |
The mortgage opportunity for my customers was phenomenal, | 0:49:35 | 0:49:38 | |
because they could borrow up to 100%, | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
so they could actually command quite a good mortgage. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
And because of that, I was able to command quite a decent income, | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
and on top of that, | 0:49:46 | 0:49:48 | |
commission from all the extras that I could offer them as well. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:51 | |
And I had a good lifestyle from that. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:53 | |
I was able to take my children on holiday abroad, | 0:49:53 | 0:49:55 | |
and buy nice things for my house. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
But it wasn't just about the salary she earnt. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:00 | |
Judy enjoyed being a financial adviser. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:03 | |
It takes me back. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:04 | |
Power shoulders, remember those? | 0:50:04 | 0:50:06 | |
These have got powers, look at that. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:08 | |
SHE CHUCKLES | 0:50:08 | 0:50:10 | |
As a mortgage adviser, I commanded respect. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:12 | |
You are in a position of authority, so you have to be able to show that | 0:50:12 | 0:50:16 | |
you are responsible and professional. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:18 | |
But I have no need for these clothes any more. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
Because I don't work in that kind of professional environment. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:25 | |
And I may never work in there again, so... | 0:50:25 | 0:50:28 | |
The recession hit the financial service sector hard, | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
and like many others, Judy lost her job. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
My whole life changed. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:36 | |
My whole lifestyle changed. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:38 | |
Everything just stopped. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:39 | |
I used to entertain. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:41 | |
I used to have people for dinner once a week. | 0:50:41 | 0:50:43 | |
I used to have a party once every two months. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
I used to always have people running around the house, you know, | 0:50:46 | 0:50:49 | |
coming for coffee and having lunches... | 0:50:49 | 0:50:51 | |
And everything, just overnight, has just stopped. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:53 | |
I could no longer afford to go on holiday, | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
buy myself nice things for the house, | 0:50:55 | 0:50:57 | |
give the children treats and take them places, | 0:50:57 | 0:51:00 | |
so everything just had to be cut right down to the bare minimum. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
Now Judy's only just managing to keep up with the household bills. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:08 | |
I like my house, but the problem is it's lacking tender loving care, | 0:51:08 | 0:51:12 | |
which I can't give it at the moment, | 0:51:12 | 0:51:14 | |
because I just don't have the money coming in. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
I had a leak, and I haven't been able to get that sorted. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:20 | |
So I just feel it's crumbling, a little bit like myself. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:24 | |
So Judy needs to find a job. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:26 | |
The trouble is that she feels her age is counting against her. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:29 | |
And she's finding it almost impossible to get back into white-collar work. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:33 | |
I feel completely lost, and because of that, | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
and knowing I have to take any job that is out there, | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
I can see myself having to do factory work or cleaning | 0:51:39 | 0:51:43 | |
or anything like that, | 0:51:43 | 0:51:44 | |
because these are the only kind of jobs that perhaps are open to me. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:48 | |
Whoa, this is hard to sift through, this. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:53 | |
This is just crazy. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:54 | |
The specially designed factory means that we are able to measure how fast | 0:51:55 | 0:51:59 | |
the workers are sorting by weight, | 0:51:59 | 0:52:01 | |
but we are also recording how fast they are picking. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:04 | |
We're seeing the raw waste come in, | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
which is rather smelly, rather sticky. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:10 | |
We've seen the picking not quite as enthusiastic as it was before. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
The company expects its workers to pick at around 40 items per minute. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:18 | |
Violeta's one of the few who has nearly achieved that speed. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
But since the mixed rubbish was put on the belts, | 0:52:21 | 0:52:23 | |
Rob's rate has plummeted. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:25 | |
It's just too much, isn't it? | 0:52:27 | 0:52:28 | |
You know? If it was a bit slower, it might be all right, but... | 0:52:28 | 0:52:31 | |
The smell is absolutely horrendous. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
I'd rather be at home in poverty, I think. Yeah. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:37 | |
So far the teams have been picking from the conveyor belts full of | 0:52:38 | 0:52:42 | |
mixed waste at full speed for an hour. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:46 | |
Oh! I can't keep up. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:48 | |
And the strain is starting to tell. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:51 | |
You see all this plastic? Take the plastic out. | 0:52:51 | 0:52:53 | |
Yeah. Leave the can. You're wasting too much time, OK? | 0:52:53 | 0:52:56 | |
OK. Yeah. That's it, right. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
They're being a bit random with what they're collecting. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:01 | |
They're not being too specific with what they are picking up, | 0:53:01 | 0:53:03 | |
which affects the value of the material at the end of the day. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:07 | |
But accuracy isn't the only problem. | 0:53:07 | 0:53:09 | |
Qasim has been looking at a moving conveyor belt for over an hour. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:13 | |
I was feeling sick. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:15 | |
Took the break, came back to the toilet. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:17 | |
I tried to hold it back, back, back, and I just couldn't. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:21 | |
It just all came out. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:23 | |
I thought that maybe machines or robots are doing | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
this kind of job. It's a really hard job, you know? | 0:53:27 | 0:53:32 | |
It looks easier maybe, but no, it's a very hard job. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:36 | |
Oh, Leon, what are you doing, man. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:40 | |
Getting newspapers, getting paper, getting paper. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:43 | |
With just 15 minutes to go, | 0:53:56 | 0:53:58 | |
everyone is trying to pick up their speeds so that their team wins. | 0:53:58 | 0:54:03 | |
I thought I would much more prefer to clean a hotel than go through | 0:54:03 | 0:54:07 | |
people's crap, but I'm loving it. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:10 | |
Absolutely loving it. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:11 | |
Oh! | 0:54:13 | 0:54:14 | |
Sabotage. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:16 | |
You're going to lose, my brother. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:22 | |
KLAXON WAILS | 0:54:23 | 0:54:25 | |
CHEERING | 0:54:25 | 0:54:26 | |
It made me think I wouldn't want to do that as a full-time job. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
Come on. That's good. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:33 | |
God, I stink! | 0:54:33 | 0:54:35 | |
Our workers have finished their second day. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
Between them they've sorted through 20 tonnes of rubbish, | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
picking five tonnes of paper, tin and maybe some nasty surprises, too. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:51 | |
So will the workers have shown the skills they need to have done well | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
as pickers? | 0:54:54 | 0:54:56 | |
Welcome back, again. And thank you all for your effort. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
I would just like to give you your wages. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:01 | |
Zachary... | 0:55:01 | 0:55:03 | |
They've worked for 3.5 hours on minimum wage at the pre-April rate, | 0:55:03 | 0:55:07 | |
which earns them a total of ?23.45 before tax. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:11 | |
My God! | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
They should be on at least ?8, ?9 an hour. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:16 | |
And it is a really tough job. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
Once again, Mike's analysing the data. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:23 | |
An experienced picker could sort an estimated 390kg of | 0:55:23 | 0:55:27 | |
recyclable material in the same amount of time. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:30 | |
How did our workers do by comparison? | 0:55:30 | 0:55:32 | |
This is a pretty horrible task. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:35 | |
But some of our workers, they just got stuck in. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
Here we have some pretty good scores. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
604kg. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:42 | |
401kg. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:43 | |
446kg. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:45 | |
They weren't distracted. They were focused. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
And they moved an incredible amount of waste. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
So, some individual workers have done well, | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
but how have they performed as teams? | 0:55:55 | 0:55:57 | |
An experienced three-man team could sort an average of 333kg per hour. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:05 | |
So, while our least productive team only sorted 290kg, | 0:56:05 | 0:56:10 | |
our top teams have done better than expected. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:12 | |
Four of our six teams exceeded the target, which was a real surprise. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:18 | |
We've got one particular team that exceeded the target by over a third. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:23 | |
And when you look at who was in that team, you've got one particular guy, | 0:56:23 | 0:56:27 | |
he's a real grafter. He digs in | 0:56:27 | 0:56:30 | |
and keeps up that pace right throughout. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:32 | |
And he's on the team that's at the top of the leaderboard. | 0:56:34 | 0:56:37 | |
So Martin, Vicky and Rob are today's winners. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:46 | |
Well done, green team. Well done, guys. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:50 | |
How did the other teams do, and who will be going home? | 0:56:50 | 0:56:54 | |
Hannah, Violeta and Yilmaz picked a third less than the winning team. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:03 | |
Blue team, I'm afraid you counted less waste than the other teams. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:07 | |
But for me, one person stood out. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:10 | |
And that was Violeta. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:13 | |
I would like Violeta to stay. | 0:57:13 | 0:57:14 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:57:14 | 0:57:16 | |
Unlike most other workers, her picking rate was consistently high. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:21 | |
Violeta really does deserve another chance to show what she can do. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:25 | |
So while her team-mates will be going home... | 0:57:25 | 0:57:27 | |
You know what? I've loved every second of it. I'll take that away with me. No, I don't mind. | 0:57:27 | 0:57:31 | |
Hannah, you should be really proud. It's been a great experience for me, | 0:57:31 | 0:57:34 | |
you know? I've learned a lot the last two days, three days - | 0:57:34 | 0:57:37 | |
I learned a lot. Now, it's some win, some lose. | 0:57:37 | 0:57:40 | |
So time to go home. | 0:57:40 | 0:57:42 | |
Violeta's work rate has meant she'll be back for the next task. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:46 | |
I have a dream. I came here in England with some goals. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:51 | |
And maybe this second chance, maybe this is a step in my life. | 0:57:51 | 0:57:56 | |
Next time... You get the 25A from up here, yeah? | 0:58:01 | 0:58:04 | |
..the pressure is on... | 0:58:04 | 0:58:06 | |
Oh, BLEEP! ..as our workers are thrown into the world of | 0:58:06 | 0:58:10 | |
casual labour. Faster, faster, faster, faster. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:12 | |
They'll go from field... | 0:58:12 | 0:58:14 | |
I'm struggling, I am. | 0:58:14 | 0:58:16 | |
..to factory. Whoa, whoa. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:19 | |
No! | 0:58:19 | 0:58:21 | |
Sorry, I got it everywhere. | 0:58:21 | 0:58:22 | |
Finding out just how hard it is to produce food for our tables. | 0:58:22 | 0:58:26 | |
It's just gone all mad on me. | 0:58:26 | 0:58:29 | |
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