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Patrolman Earl Finch received a radio dispatch from police HQ

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at 22.15 hours

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on August 11th, 1956.

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It reported an automobile accident on the Springs Fireplace Road.

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Proceeding to the scene, he found a 1950 Oldsmobile

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registered to one Jackson Pollock.

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He observed an injured woman lying in front of the vehicle

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who was identified as Ruth Kligman, aged 25 years

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who was removed to the South Hampton hospital.

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He also observed a male body lying nine feet west of the vehicle

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on its back, head to the west, feet to the east

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who was later identified as Jackson Pollock, Springs Road, New York,

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aged 44 years.

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Date of birth - 28th January, 1912.

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The coroner, Dr Nugent, examined the body of Jackson Pollock.

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It was wearing a black velvet shirt,

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grey pants, brown belt, blue shorts,

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brown socks, no shoes.

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No jewellery or ID found on the body.

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It was a romantic way to die. If he hadn't met me,

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and died in that car, he would have died a sick man

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with maybe an enlarged liver.

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That is not as romantic as dying tragically in a car

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with a woman that he loved.

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Drunkenness and...

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a violent death and ...

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..sex and art - all of that is attractive to the public -

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with the exception of art!

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It's easier to think of the drama of his history

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than to think of what he did in the realm of art.

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MAN: He has become a legend. It has nothing to do with his art.

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It's the person.

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Who ever would have thought this guy knew how to paint?

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He'd become famous! Incredible!

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And look at it now, who knows what fame is...?

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God, it's so fucking stupid.

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At the time of his death in 1956,

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Pollock was the most celebrated artist in the US.

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His new way of dripping paint onto canvas

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redefined the nature of painting.

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Sometimes I use a brush but often prefer a stick.

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Sometimes I pour the paint straight out of the can.

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I like to use a dripping, fluid paint.

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A method of painting is a natural growth out of a need.

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I want to express my feelings rather than illustrate them.

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It was this desire to find a more direct form of expression

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which saw Pollock and peers being called abstract expressionists.

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Pollock's work was so different from what anyone else was doing.

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It wasn't even as much shocking as it was just...unimaginable.

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People could not imagine that this was painting.

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Even Pollock had doubts about whether he was truly creating art

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because there wasn't a model for it.

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He broke the mould so spectacularly, he attracted huge media attention

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and soon came to be seen as the key figure in abstract expressionism.

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When do you think it became clear that he was emerging as the leader?

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Erm...

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I guess whenever Life Magazine

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did a spread on Pollock, and this would be...

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My dates, I haven't got them.

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In '48 or '49, I'd say.

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Erm...

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Their headline was, "Is he the greatest painter in America?"

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"Recently, a formidably highbrow critic hailed this brooding man

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"as a major artist and a candidate for finest painter of the century."

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Life Magazine had Pollock standing there like a jerk.

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And the thing was, "Is he a genius or a crackpot?"

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Now that's what Life thought.

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But what people thought was...

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"Anybody can do it! My kid can do it, I can do it!"

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And that made a deep impression upon America.

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Jackson became a legend and America began to look at art.

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"Pollock, at 37, is a shining new phenomenon

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"of American art.

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"He was virtually unknown in 1944.

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"Now his work is in five US museums and 40 private collections."

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Surprised? I mean, he hit as big as it could be.

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But what it meant to the public at large that he did this...

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And everybody... He was imitated just overnight.

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It looked real easy. But for some reason,

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no-one could do it the way he did.

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When they held art shows,

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you'd see a dozen imitations - but they could never do it.

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It's remarkable, the leap he took.

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He let the nature of the medium take over the way a piece was built.

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You think of drip painting as being a form of pouring but it's not.

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It's a constellation of effects.

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I find ways that are different to the usual techniques of painting

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which seems a little strange at the moment.

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It makes no difference how paint's put on as long as something is said.

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-SEIBERLING:

-There was a great response to the Life article.

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More than 500 letters came in - only 20 of them favourable.

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Here's a selection.

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"Answering your query, is he the greatest painter in the US?,

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"I submit a photo of my son, Dennis,

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"a five-year-old contemporary of Pollock,

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"with his latest work, Number 99."

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"I have an old garage door on which I've cleaned paintbrushes for years.

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"It is rather similar to Pollock's Number 17.

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"The first 1,500 takes it."

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Now here - finally - is a redeeming letter.

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"As a long-time and proud collector of his paintings,

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"Pollock is the best US painter.

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"My opinion is shared by my wife, mother and children.

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"We've never tired of our paintings - they appeal like great music."

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That's from Reginald Isaacs in Chicago.

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Art became the subject of mass culture

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and that created this sort of pool of general interest -

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who was the greatest painter?

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Before, it was of interest to an elite. Now it was in Life Magazine.

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Jackson was the right painter at the right time.

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Right art, right country...

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Pollock was an artist who struggled for a long time in total anonymity.

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By the time he was 30, in 1942, he had achieved almost nothing.

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During the 1940s, American critics

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felt a need for a culture to match America's presence in the world

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on other fronts.

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Artists began to look for different ways of painting,

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different scale, different approach to the canvas.

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Something more immediate, more raw,

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that was more characteristic of the energies of America.

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That vague desire was in the air

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and they felt it had been crystallised by Pollock.

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I was born in Cody, Wyoming, 39 years ago.

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I now live in Springs, East Hampton, Long Island.

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My painting is direct. I usually paint on the floor.

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I enjoy working on a large canvas.

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I feel more at home, at ease, with a big area.

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-MAN:

-He was very Western in his voice, his mannerisms.

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The West was echoed in Springs where they had their farmhouse.

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If you go behind that house and look out,

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it's a very infinite kind of space which I think is very American.

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In some of the major late paintings, the scale, the ambition

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is very American.

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America is nothing if not a star country -

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and the media, the art world itself,

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through Life Magazine - star maker for the masses - needed one person.

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This great American painter had to be American!

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The problem, of course,

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was that so many of the candidates for this position weren't American.

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De Kooning was from Holland. Rothko was from Russia,

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Arshile Gorky was from Armenia.

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Jackson was one of the few people who'd been born in the US.

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Lo and behold, born in Cody, Wyoming! He was so American

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at a time when we wanted an American master.

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Well, painting today certainly seems very alive.

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My contemporaries are doing very exciting, vital work.

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The media needed one person.

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They couldn't write about a community.

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It was very alienating for Jackson

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because the rest of the community were hurt and angry

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that he would be considered the pre-eminent figure

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when they saw him as one of the guys.

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He wasn't considered the frontrunner by other artists at all.

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Gorky and de Kooning were the most admired, I think,

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-among the abstract artists, isn't it true?

-Yeah, that's true.

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Jackson wasn't particularly admired at all, as a matter of fact.

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He created the biggest mess.

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There was an aura of a myth around him - it was a sort of macho myth.

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Although everyone talked about Wyoming, where he was born,

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he'd really spent most of his time around LA.

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His personality really was defined by the media.

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Born in Wyoming, growing up in the far West -

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luckily he had a picture of himself in a cowboy hat.

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They called him the cowboy painter - when he'd never been on a horse!

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Everything about Pollock that's part of the myth is slightly askew.

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His name wasn't Jackson but Paul - Paul Jackson Pollock.

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He was very aware of what publicity could do.

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Even the first time I went out to Springs to visit the Pollocks,

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Lee had said it didn't mean anything to Jackson.

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There was a pile of Life Magazines. I said, "Why did he save these?"

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Was he ambitious? Well, of course he was.

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He was certainly encouraged to be by Lee. The whole thing she did

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was to make him feel satisfied, and I guess he was pleased

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about the celebrity.

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I mean, it did bolster his ego, I think -

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but in such an unfortunate way, I think.

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Lee was the saleswoman. There are stories of her on the phone,

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day and night, drumming up sales.

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Making sure they had a livelihood so Jackson could paint.

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Controlling his drinking so he'd paint.

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Keeping family away if she felt they'd interfere with his painting.

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WOMAN: When Jackson first met Lee, she was a better-known artist.

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He really was unknown. And he recognised in her

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an understanding of modern art that perhaps was meaningful to him.

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She gave him that discipline, that knowledge.

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He gave her a sense of freedom and spontaneity.

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It was an excellent professional match - and love match.

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She believed he was the greatest painter since Picasso.

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They had met at a leftist political meeting -

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he had come up to her at the dance and said, "Do you like to fuck?"

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Is that OK for the BBC?! Yes? What a liberal broadcaster!

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She realised that he was an extraordinary artist

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and that increased all along

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to the point where she, who'd never boiled an egg in her life,

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just became a housewife, did everything and stopped painting.

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And she was a strong painter - I mean, she was very involved.

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Very capable.

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But she loved him enough to give it up.

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There was a lot of prejudice then against women as painters.

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Er... It would be a great temptation

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to realise your ambition through the man who could do it.

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But she was very ambitious for herself, too.

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and deeply resented the fact that people only paid attention to him.

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Once in a while, I'd see them have a confrontation - and she was feisty.

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She'd call him "Pollock", especially when they disagreed.

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She'd say, "Pollock, are you out of your mind?"

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That was one aspect of it. The other was that she took great care of him.

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She tried to keep him off liquor as much as possible.

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She implored people not to give him drinks.

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But when he wasn't working, he'd go to New York

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and be on a bender for days, and not show up.

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Around the corner from the artists' club

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was a bar called The Cedar Tavern

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and the artists would gather and sit around drinking.

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Of course, Jackson was always a big drinker

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and de Kooning, and a number of others.

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They would go to the Cedar Bar and swagger a lot.

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-FRIEDMAN:

-The whole art scene went there. Besides Pollock, Kline went,

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de Kooning went there a lot.

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And er...it was mostly guys roughhousing a little.

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When Jackson came in, there'd be bear hugging and kind of wrestling,

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back-slapping, that kind of thing.

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I was a bar fly for a few years.

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I learned more at the Cedar Bar than anywhere.

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There was talk about art all the time.

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Jackson, he wasn't part of it

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in the good sense - I mean, he'd come in drunk

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and say, "Fucking whores, you think you're painters", those things.

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And he would come in...

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and invade us - be a blitzkrieg.

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We were always concerned that someone would get hurt,

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that the police were gonna come in... Pollock always put us on edge.

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-And before you knew it, he'd be back there...

-Oh, absolutely.

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He'd pull out a table, the glasses would fall - two or three times.

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Sorry, I don't care who you are, you're not welcome here any more.

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It was like walking a tightrope. He'd look at you, ready to attack

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if you made a false move.

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A move of honesty, integrity, anything like that.

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He'd watch you carefully.

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It was scary in a way.

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He was drinking at 17 - he was an alcoholic, under psychiatric care!

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He seemed very sad. He got a big kick out of some things, he'd laugh,

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but overall you thought, yes, he's a very sad man.

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Just suffering all the time.

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MAN: He was seriously troubled. That was the key engine

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of both his rise and his fall.

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He had this mother who had these great artistic ambitions

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and a father who questioned those ambitions,

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who wondered if artists weren't ultimately wasting their lives.

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You can see in those canvases all those experiences,

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all that life, all that drinking, all that agony, all that whatever,

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and suddenly it's all been resolved, at least in these paintings.

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When you do something original, it's frightening because you don't know where it came from.

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He didn't want to imitate himself.

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He'd never kind of cheaply do casual works

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that he knew could sell.

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1950 is a critical year for Jackson.

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He had really taken the drip to its ultimate conclusion.

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Those great canvases of 1950

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were the ultimate, glorious expression of the last ten years.

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And that put enormous pressure on him,

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not only to do something different, but also as good as what he had done.

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Celebrity, um...

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is a...very difficult thing

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because it forces you to do it bigger and better

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at a time when you think you've done everything you can do.

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Jackson felt that terribly.

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I think Pollock was, to some extent,

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turned into a commercial object.

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The film would be the best example of that.

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He was only the second American artist

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who ever had a documentary - the Namuth film.

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I think Jackson did want it. I've heard Lee wanted it even more.

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The filming was very tedious. There was a lot of repetition.

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"Let's do it again. The light's different."

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By breaking down the process and making him go through it as an act,

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our feeling is that this underscored for Jackson

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the fact that he was as much a celebrity-slash-fake as he was an artist.

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It reinforced all the things he was already thinking.

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And the film, by deconstructing the process of creating a painting,

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turned him into a cliche.

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For someone who was already never fully confident

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of his own worth,

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this was devastating.

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-It's a trap.

-Yeah, it is a trap.

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A technique is a trap.

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As soon as a technique develops, you're trapped,

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especially when the floodlight comes on.

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"I'm trapped. I'm done for."

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How do you get out of it? This is a trap. This is a trap.

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He got into an argument after the last day of filming.

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He was saying, "Hans, I'm not a phoney, you're a phoney!"

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This was linked to his tragic fall off the wagon after two years.

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After the last day of filming, he had two shots of bourbon

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and proceeded to throw the dinner table over, ruining the dinner,

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to celebrate the end of filming.

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Lee Krasner, who had tremendous aplomb, said,

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"Coffee will be served in the living room."

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The completed film played a very important role in boosting Pollock's reputation.

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On the other hand, it also seems he was profoundly unnerved by it.

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It wasn't authentic or real, he was selling his soul to Hollywood.

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He had a tough relationship with celluloid. It didn't do him any good.

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People said, "What is this movie about Pollock that you want to do?"

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It's difficult to get anybody to finance a film about a guy like this.

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People see it as a dark story. I don't know if it's dark.

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It's intense and he's a self-obsessed individual.

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I think he was constantly wondering, "What do you do in this world?

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"What's the purpose of being here?"

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When he painted, he thought that. So he didn't have a fuckin' clue.

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I think this film would come as quite a surprise to him.

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I've talked to Ed Harris,

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who helped play Pollock,

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and he's perfect - physically he's like Pollock.

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Some things about his personality are like Pollock.

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But I think Pollock would be amazed, I really do.

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I think Lee would be amazed and she would like it more than Pollock.

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I talked to someone who wanted Barbra Streisand to play Lee.

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The woman talking to me about it says,

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"Oh, she must have loved him so."

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I said, "Well, yeah, in a kind of a deadly way, you know!"

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It wasn't that cute.

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I don't see how you can make the ordinary movie.

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I'm awaiting the movie to see if they get a single thing right.

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Jackson Pollock is a great American icon.

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He's like Marlon Brando.

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Marlon would have been great to play Jackson.

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He's the only person I've ever known - I knew him early in my life -

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who had that same kind of quality of spontaneity, of genius,

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of being unselfconscious.

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And I think most actors

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see Jackson as a meaty part.

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SHE LAUGHS

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Celebrity is something... I feel somewhat what he must have felt like,

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in terms of it has nothing to do with what you're doing.

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Unfortunately, he was a painter and part of his job was to hang them up

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on a wall in a gallery, which is like putting your soul up there,

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especially for Pollock whose life was so fragile and deep within

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to put his work out there and to have it criticised and then praised.

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Then he feels, "I'm worth something and if people don't like it..."

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This guy didn't have the apparatus to deal with that kind of thing.

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NAIFEH: He felt the world was redefining him.

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He couldn't live up to this persona that Namuth and everybody wanted.

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So he was not only America's first celebrity artist,

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he was America's first celebrity artist casualty.

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The self-destructive streak that you see in a Marilyn Monroe or in a James Dean,

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played itself out in Jackson and they too adored their celebrity,

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but, on the other hand, were incredibly burdened by it.

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And part of them wanted a simpler life.

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The other part wanted this huge...

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the spotlights to go on forever

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and, um...that was a problem for Jackson as well.

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He was very aware of who he was and of what he had done.

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He was very aware of media attention.

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All that became part of his problem, as it did with Jack Kerouac.

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The term I use is that they "froze in the glare of the media".

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It was difficult for them to work.

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That's what it did then and that's what it does today.

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VARDENOE: Pollock had arrived at a kind of creative block.

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In 1951, he'd gone into a deep depression.

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He painted a series of black enamel paintings.

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After that show, he had difficulty figuring out where to go next.

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His friends thought they would help him out.

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Getting him drunk, they led him to the studio -

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Tony Smith, a sculptor, and Barnett Newman, the painter, were there.

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They encouraged him to get going.

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Blue Poles is Pollock's last great attempt

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at monumental abstract painting.

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Pollock used a glass turkey baster to paint.

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Several were lying around

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and got broken and people walked on the glass

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Barnett Newman said, "My blood is in this picture,"

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meaning not that Pollock had taken from his art, but that he had stepped on the glass.

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There are still buried in it fragments of the glass basters.

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He was under tremendous pressure.

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Even if you weren't famous, if you had made some impact with your work,

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and it didn't go where people expected it to,

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you would always wonder if you were going backward or forward

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and whether anybody would let you get away with it.

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If you changed, they didn't like it. If you didn't, they didn't like it.

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It must have been horrendous to be that famous that suddenly,

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out of nowhere, and then have to carry on.

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HARRIS: I guess there are times when you can't put anything on canvas.

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You can't put a mark on it, cos you know it's full of shit and he refused to do it.

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For one thing he was true. He wasn't a bullshitter when it came to art.

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He probably felt, "I don't want to keep doing this. I'd be a liar if I did.

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"It's not easy, but it's familiar to me now.

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"I can do it without the import or without the intention I used to have.

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"I need to find something else, go somewhere else."

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It was a winter evening, very late at night,

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one o'clock in the morning, I was asleep and Lee called and asked me to come over.

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"Jackson has gone out, he hasn't come back and I'm worried.

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"Maybe he went out drinking and got into terrible trouble."

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Finally, she hears a car in the driveway.

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He came in and blasted the door open like you would see in a Wild West movie,

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standing there with a Mac on and a woollen cap

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and as angry as can be.

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But then he said, "I did it, you see, I did it.

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"What more do they want? What more do they want? I've done it.

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"What more do they want?"

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That has to be qualified in another way

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because, at that time, there was a whole climate of abstract expressionism

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and artists were getting famous.

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It was like the goldrush.

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A lot of ambitious people would get on top

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and use it for their gain - get the right gallery -

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and there was an anti-Pollock group.

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They were trying to put him out to pasture.

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So to understand why he's saying, "What the f... do they want?

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"They want blood. I've given it all."

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It has something to do with the climate around him, you see.

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I saw the change at the Cedar Bar,

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at the club, you know, among my friends.

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From that close community of artists who supported each other -

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like we'd go to the concerts of John Cage

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and we'd go to the play of Lionel Abel and we'd applaud when he came into the bar.

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There was this supportive world

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which changed so radically.

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The Cedar Bar people were talking about galleries instead of art.

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Suddenly American art had become

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a commercial commodity

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and the whole world changed.

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It was so radical and so quick.

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After 1952,

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Pollock painted less and less.

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He went to the studio infrequently.

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He had trouble maintaining a momentum to painting.

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He began to spend more time drinking.

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His life became a shambles. His relationship with Lee fell apart.

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As his life becomes more troubled, he becomes more blocked against painting.

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It's not any one of the pictures at the end of his life that show where he is

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because each one is so different.

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Some of the pictures and their fragmentation and separation

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point to someone who is searching, running up against dead ends.

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He ran out of energy - spiritual, everything.

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-And ideas.

-He was sick. He had no strength

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and that you need.

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Much more important than ideas.

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There's got to be something that keeps you...

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over the hoop, you go through the hoop,

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you have to land on your feet with energy.

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You can't just lay there and...die.

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You have to get up - and it didn't happen.

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He must have realised it. I realise it now - I am an old man - and I see it.

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Without the energy... it's very hard to get up.

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You give up.

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I think he knew that.

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CILE DOWNS: He was the town drunk.

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He was so helpless and was so vulnerable.

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Lee said he had asked for a divorce and she would never give him one.

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She knew he had another girlfriend, if not many. She had a clue.

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I fell in love with him the first time I saw a painting of his.

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He was exactly like that.

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He was just pouring energy.

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People were very attracted to him and coming over to him

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and bothering him.

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And, er...we just...

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kind of fell in love at first sight, I think.

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We got involved soon after that.

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We were involved that entire year, 1956,

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until he died.

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One of the reasons he was with Ruth

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was that all his fellow painters had all these beautiful women

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and he was the most famous artist of all who had a domestic life with Lee.

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When Ruth threw herself at him, he was an easy target.

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He needed to prove to Bill and the other boys

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that he too had this pretty young thing on his arm and was proud,

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as proud as he could be to show her off, as he did.

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When she went out to East Hampton,

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he went from house to house showing her off to the dismay of the wives

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who were all friends of Lee's.

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He was trying to be what they wanted him to be.

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We had every weekend...

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We all gathered on Coastguard Beach in East Hampton

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and Jackson paraded Ruth when he first met her

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up and down the beach.

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All the guys thought she was hot stuff.

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She had a sexy look about her.

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-RUTH:

-I felt he couldn't be left alone. His wife just left him.

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She couldn't deal with it at all

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because he wanted her to... accept it -

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accept that he had fallen in love, accept the relationship.

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She refused and I think there's been a pretence

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that somehow...

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she went on vacation. She didn't - it was a separation.

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When Lee went to Paris I think it was the hope

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that by taking a break, he would realise he couldn't do without her.

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It had reached an intolerable situation.

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But they both were...

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profoundly attached.

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The Kligman thing couldn't have meant very much.

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A further provocation, somehow.

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He somehow, as a child, wanted his wife and I and he all to live together,

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you see.

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Of course, that couldn't work out.

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So I think the conflict created the drama which led to his death.

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And, er...

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That's very sad - that was the tragedy.

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All through his life he was doomed

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because he was so self-destructive.

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I mean, the others drank heavily and only de Kooning got very seriously alcoholic.

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They all drank much too much, but it wasn't like Jackson.

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He was hellbent to destroy himself.

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By the end, when Lee wasn't there,

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he wasn't painting.

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There was nothing to hold him back.

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You can't blame one person - if she didn't go and if I knew how to drive and all these what ifs.

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It happened and it's an existential answer.

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I believe that now. It was his moment.

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Date of death - August 11th, 1956.

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Time of death - 10.15pm.

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Immediate cause of death - compound fracture of skull,

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laceration of brain, laceration of both lungs, haemothorax, shock,

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due to auto accident.

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Death due to auto upsetting. Victim, driver and owner of car.

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Autopsy? Yes.

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Accident, suicide, or homicide?

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Accident.

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