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This programme contains some scenes which some viewers may find upsetting

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The Royal Ulster Constabulary are hunting the IRA killers...

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Mrs Thatcher has called the men who run the army...

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The bomb was one of the biggest in the city for years...

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Politicians from all parties have condemned...

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The Guildford Four...

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NEWS STORIES PLAY ALL AT ONCE

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..our correspondent Denis Murray.

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..is from our Ireland correspondent, Denis Murray.

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When I became the BBC's Ireland Correspondent,

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I didn't realise quite how much of my life would be spent talking to the camera like this.

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I'm Denis Murray, and for 20 years I had the privilege

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of reporting my own place to the rest of the UK and the world.

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I'd grown up with the history and the complexities,

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and I'd reported within Northern Ireland.

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My job now was to explain it without over-simplifying

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and in a way that would get the attention of people elsewhere.

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Northern Ireland was dominated by the bomb and the bullet.

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Nothing seemed to have changed across two decades.

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So naturally the coverage was dominated by violence.

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As a result, the reporting of the Troubles had become almost formulaic.

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Another shooting, another bombing.

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It would have been easy to fill in the location, the time and whether there were any dead.

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In fact, there were so many attacks,

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it's hardly surprising a lot of the reports looked and sounded the same.

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It got to the point where your life wasn't your own.

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What you did was dictated completely by the news agenda.

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SIREN WAILS

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This is the edit suite in which I spent a large part of my working life.

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And I suppose you were semi-aware at the time that you were reporting history.

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These programmes are in no sense intended to be

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any kind of formal history of the Troubles and the peace process.

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What I'm trying to do is show you what it was like

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to be a close-up eyewitness to those events.

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Because I suppose what we reported and how we reported it, more importantly,

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became part of it all.

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Reports are coming in of a bomb in Northern Ireland.

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First reports indicate that five soldiers have been killed and up to 11 people injured.

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The three people who died were driving north after their holiday.

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It is believed the bomb was in a derelict house beside the main Dublin to Belfast road.

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The news tonight is dominated by the murder of eight young soldiers,

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their bus blown up by the IRA.

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I'd been a journalist more than ten years,

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but nothing - nothing - had prepared me for this horror.

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It wasn't just the nature of the events,

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it was the sheer scale of what was happening.

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It was relentless, non-stop, daily.

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One night, not long into the job,

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I was with a group of other journalists

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when everyone's bleepers began to go off at once.

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None of us knew what had happened, but clearly it was serious.

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At that stage, my reaction was, find out what had happened and get there.

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As the years went on, I dreaded the phone ringing,

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because as often as not it was something on this scale.

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When I arrived, the night and the surroundings,

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like the situation, were dark.

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The bright lights on top of the camera,

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used so we could actually film, felt like an intrusion.

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The gaping hole in the side of the road,

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the wrecked bus blown some distance away,

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and, as so often, that eerie quiet despite the presence of so many soldiers and police.

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While the rest of the country slept, the sense of so many lives shattered,

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not just the dead but their families as well, was palpable.

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Early this morning, the IRA blew up a bus carrying soldiers

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back from leave to their barracks at Omagh in County Tyrone.

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Our first report is from our Ireland correspondent, Denis Murray.

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The soldiers' bus was only nine miles from its destination in Omagh

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when the IRA bomb, planted at the side of the road

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only a short time earlier, exploded,

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ripping through the near side of the vehicle.

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The road where the attack took place is isolated,

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but local people flocked to help.

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I went down to the bus, and there was bodies on one side of the road,

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a body round this lamp post here, and bodies all over the place.

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And we started then to get into the bus and drag bodies out.

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It was terrible. It was... It just... I can't explain it.

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It was something I have never seen before and never want to see again.

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I was the first journalist that local man had spoken to,

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and because of what had happened and because of what he'd seen,

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he was bitterly angry.

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He wasn't really angry with me but quite often,

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people got rid of their feelings on the first reporter they saw.

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He agreed to an interview and as soon as the camera was switched on,

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the anger disappeared and suddenly, he was just an upset human being.

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But I couldn't allow myself to stay involved in that tragedy.

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I had to throw some sort of mental switch

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and become the dispassionate reporter again.

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By 1988, most people in Britain were sick and tired of the Troubles.

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To most people in England, Scotland and Wales they were just a background noise,

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but they were the very people to whom I'd be telling the story.

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Because British soldiers were killed, there might be more interest than usual.

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That sounds shocking, but it's true.

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It's all so only human.

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How many of us remember just how many people have been killed by car bombs in Baghdad?

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People in Northern Ireland thought everybody was fascinated by the Troubles

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but they weren't - they just wished the whole thing would go away.

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Inevitably, there were calls for internment.

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A key part of my role was this - I couldn't just report on events,

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I had to be the BBC's commentator as well.

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On air, I said internment wasn't going to happen

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because it had proved such a disaster before.

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But the Government had to be seen to be doing something.

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'The Six O'Clock News from the BBC.

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'Good evening. The headlines at six o'clock -

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'The government has banned Irish terrorists and their close supporters

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'from being heard on British television and radio.'

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'Sinn Fein held a news conference in West Belfast today to give its view.

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'This morning, we were able to broadcast the comments of Gerry Adams. Tonight, we cannot.'

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I hated the restrictions.

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They got massively in the way of being able to tell the whole truth.

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Even so, you got the impression that Sinn Fein

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weren't as angry as they might have been.

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After all, it was another injustice to complain about.

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EXPLOSION

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'1988 has seen the most ferocious IRA campaign in years,

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'marked by a return of attacks on the city centre.'

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Sinn Fein was starting a long march of its own.

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The party's leadership was beginning to develop an endgame.

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How do you end the Troubles?

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After decades of violence, they were nowhere closer to a united Ireland.

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'For the first time, Gerry Adams was challenged by John Hume,

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'in explicitly nationalist and republican terms,

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'to defend the IRA's campaign.'

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Over the next nine months, the two men and delegations from their parties

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had a series of secret meetings, at which they exchanged in writing

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their own arguments and answers to the others.

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'The talks ended in August, without agreement.'

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John Hume's talks with Sinn Fein marked a shift in the landscape.

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It was a sign that republicans in particular

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were looking for something different, not just the gun.

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Gerry Adams had said publicly that he was looking to create

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a non-armed political movement to work for self-determination.

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That meant Sinn Fein wanted a seat at the talks table,

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without frightening Unionists and without going too far for its own faithful.

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If there were signs of change on the wind in Northern Ireland,

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British opinion received a severe shock to the system.

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I've gone to prison for 15 years, for something I didn't do.

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For something I didn't know anything about.

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The release of the Guildford Four and the Birmingham Six showed

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that the British establishment had arguably indulged in sharp practice.

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These people simply weren't guilty of what they'd been convicted.

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'Paul Hill walked with his family into the arms of supporters,

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'a free man for the first time in 15 years.

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'The agony of so many years in jail for a crime he didn't commit,

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'swept away in the jubilation of the moment.'

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Many British people had to face the possibility that some

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within their own establishment had connived to perpetrate injustice.

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And the IRA helped no-one by remaining stone silent

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about who actually was guilty.

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Some of the prisoners' families told me that

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whenever there had been a possibility of release,

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the IRA made a point of carrying out an atrocity to prevent it.

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The republican movement loves a martyr, even when it's not one of its own.

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There were a lot more unpalatable possibilities out there which would

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not only have to be faced, but which were arriving at great speed.

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'Nelson Mandela's specially chartered jet

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'landed at Dublin Airport at lunchtime.

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'He called for the British Government and the IRA to sit down together for talks,

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'even though he acknowledged the IRA represented only a minority.'

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The issue is that differences have arisen.

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As a result of these differences many people have died,

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have lost their lives.

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What is the sense of continuing with that mutual slaughter?

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'Although Downing Street sources are playing down Mr Mandela's remarks,

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'Mrs Thatcher will leave him in no doubt -

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'the Government doesn't negotiate with terrorists.'

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'Peter Brooke, the Northern Ireland Secretary,

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'isn't commenting on Mr Mandela's remarks.

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'In an article in tonight's London Evening Standard, though,

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'he says dialogue is the only way forward, but stresses it would be

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'a tragedy if the Armalite should have primacy over the ballot box.'

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Given the times, you can just imagine the reaction to that,

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especially in Britain.

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It was, "Not on the agenda, Mr Mandela, no can do, Mr Mandela,

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"and frankly, not much of your business either, Mr Mandela."

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But part of the backwash to that was that my ITV colleague and I

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attracted a fair degree of criticism

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for trapping the man into saying something controversial.

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It was absolutely not true.

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He was asked two perfectly reasonable questions, to which

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he gave very firm answers, and clearly believed what he was saying.

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It didn't happen because he said it, but goodness me,

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what he had to say became one of the absolute cornerstones

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of what the process turned into.

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Ireland, inward looking though it might be, couldn't remain untouched

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by world events, and not just South Africa but the Middle East, too.

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The release of Irish hostage, Brian Keenan,

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had no direct relation to politics here, but it was something

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from elsewhere, of liberation, of change, brought directly home.

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'The homecoming at Dublin airport was emotional, but triumphant.

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'A few minutes later,

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'he spoke of his feelings for the hostages still in captivity.'

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I feel torn between a rock and a hard place.

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I'm overwhelmed.

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Most of my job was, necessarily, reporting Northern Ireland,

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but the Republic was hugely important, too.

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After all, I was Ireland correspondent.

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The Republic was changing fast,

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much faster than people in Britain or the North thought.

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Mary Robinson swept to one of the least likely political victories ever,

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and became Ireland's first woman president.

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She went on to transform the nature of the office.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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'This evening, the announcement of the result

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'set the seal on a truly extraordinary victory.'

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CHEERING

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'But her victory speech was very confident,

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'saluting the voters she feels closest to.'

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The women of Ireland - Mna na hEireann -

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who instead of rocking the cradle rocked the system.

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CHEERING

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Of course, all the journalists groaned and said, "That's cheesy."

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I rather arrogantly stood out in front of them and said,

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"Ha-ha, but you'll all use it." And of course, we did.

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I remember thinking the instant she'd said it, "What a moment,"

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and talk about change time.

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I was a student here in the early '70s, but now

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I was forcefully struck by just how much more confident the place was,

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and being Irish had become downright fashionable.

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But while the makings of change and what would become a peace process

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were evident all round, the core problem remained.

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One of the steps to change that

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came from Secretary of State Peter Brooke.

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He declared Britain had no selfish, economic or strategic interest

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in Northern Ireland.

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That was significant for the simple reason

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that someone had actually said it out loud.

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Publicly, the unionists hated the speech,

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but the smart ones knew a new game was beginning.

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Back up north, though, my phone only rang with bad news.

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'Six people died in an IRA bomb attack on this army checkpoint

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'on the outskirts of Londonderry.

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'Five of them were soldiers,

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'the other victim was Patsy Gillespie,

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'a civilian chef at an army base in the city.

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'He was forced at gunpoint to drive the bomb into the checkpoint.

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'The IRA used him as a human bomb because to the terrorists,

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'he was a collaborator.'

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Patsy Gillespie was just one man who drove to his own death

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to protect his wife and children.

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It seemed it couldn't get much worse than this.

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'Another 300 troops are being sent to Northern Ireland tomorrow,

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'to help cope with the worsening violence...

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'There were two sectarian attacks on Catholic men today,

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'apparently in retaliation for last night's IRA shootings.

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'This is just what churchmen and politicians feared,

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'retaliation for retaliation, and what's really worrying the police

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'is that there may be a lot more to come.

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'The bomb exploded in a recreation area and bar,

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'in a basement of the military wing of the hospital,

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and both the dead and most of the injured are soldiers or their families.'

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'The IRA say they weren't targeting anything specific with their £1,000 van bomb -

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'the biggest of five attempts to bomb the centre of Belfast in the past month.'

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A new political game might have started,

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but the old game still had to burn itself out.

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On the rural roads and along the hedgerows,

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people took their lives in their hands, simply by doing a day's work.

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The IRA murdered eight Protestant builders here,

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for the crime of working on an army base.

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'The workmen died when a 600-pound bomb exploded

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'close to their van, as they were driving home.

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'The security forces cordoned off the area for a two-mile radius

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'for several hours after the attack. The blast was heard 12 miles away.

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'The device was detonated either by a radio signal or a command wire,

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'which means the terrorists waited and watched for their victims.'

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'This is a carnage scene. It is evil, it is wanton,

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'and there are insufficient words to describe one's condemnation of it.'

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And it was here at Teebane that we used an image which has haunted me,

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which communicated the human aspect of yet another incident.

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That flask had been part of someone's lunch just a few hours earlier.

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As I read the names, it struck me that

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so many people are not remembered like this.

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Their only memorial is a headstone.

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So many of the deaths in the Northern Ireland Troubles were lonely ones.

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It was the multiple murders that got the big headlines.

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That's exactly why the paramilitaries carried them out.

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'The latest victims of Belfast's increasingly reckless gunmen

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'were in a bookmaker's shop on one of the city's main roads.

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'About 20 customers were inside at the time, just after 2:00pm -

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'the crowd, in for the start of the afternoon's racing.

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'Two gunman walked in, one with a handgun, one with a rifle,

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'and they opened fire, indiscriminately.

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'Five people died, another ten were injured in a hail of gunfire.'

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This was a purely sectarian attack, carried out by loyalist gunmen

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whose sole intention was to kill Catholics, any Catholics.

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'It's another benchmark in Belfast's escalating violence.'

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I grew up on the Ormeau Road,

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and I'll never forget how silent the road was that day.

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It was as silent as I've ever heard anything and one woman began to cry.

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She got louder and louder and louder,

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and eventually friends walked her way,

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and not one of the photographers or the cameramen

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took a photograph or recorded any sound.

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This was an awful time.

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No-one knew if stepping outside their front door would get them killed.

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As soon as one paramilitary group did something, another one reacted.

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Not long after this, a colleague and I went to see UDA leaders on the Shankill Road.

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They were ordinary working-class Belfast man,

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just the same as the men the UFF had murdered in the bookies.

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I put it to them that they were driving Catholics into the arms of the IRA,

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and the reply was, "As long as the IRA continued its genocide, loyalists would strike back."

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It was a case of, "We can kill as many of yours as you can kill of ours,"

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a cycle that had to be broken.

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The politics couldn't be forgotten.

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It was only from that direction that an end to this misery would come.

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And steps were being taken in that direction.

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One of them was the Ulster Unionists going to Dublin

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for talks with the Irish government. That had never been done before.

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There was a new imperative for dialogue.

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I'm quite often asked, "What was the turning point?"

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The truth is, there really wasn't one.

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The process, even at its lowest level,

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was the right people in the right place at the right time.

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If I had to point to one, it would be the IRA bombing in Warrington,

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in which two young children were killed.

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Why? Because of the impact on opinion in the republic.

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While most Irish people have relatives in America,

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everyone has relatives in England. It was a human response.

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In my view, no other IRA action brought this reaction

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from the great mass of Irish people.

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The IRA had a rule not to carry out operations south of the border,

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because it would damage their image. Warrington did just that.

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For two days, the people of Dublin have been putting their signatures

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to books of condolence to express their sympathies in seven separate books.

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Many simply wrote the word "Sorry" beside their signatures.

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Many others said,

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"Not in our name".

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Of course, Republicans took a depressingly cynical

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and selfish view of this.

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One senior Republican told me that round the world,

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the IRA had gone from being seen as freedom fighters

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to being seen as baby killers.

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Get back!

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The Shankill Road bombing was a terrible thing

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and the night it happened there was a news programme on BBC Two

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at about half-past seven.

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And the IRA had said it didn't mean to kill

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all those people in the fish shop.

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It was trying to kill the leadership

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of the loyalist UDA paramilitary group.

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The presenter asked me, what did I make of that?

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And I had to say, "I realise this is not going to be

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"a popular opinion tonight, but I believe them."

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I was terribly nervous afterwards that I'd gone too far

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but that was the kind of decision you had to take in those days.

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If you were going to tell the truth about something,

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you had to reflect the unpalatable.

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SHE WEEPS

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I hate them.

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What they've done.

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They've destroyed my child's life.

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I've no love for them.

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I know people say you should forgive and forget,

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I can't.

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I can't. Not what they've done.

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They destroyed people's lives yesterday.

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It was needless.

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The youngest victim was Leanne Murray, who was a teenager.

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And the next day everyone wanted, for the coverage, an interview with her mother

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which the family were saying she wouldn't do.

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So I went up to her house, we were allowed in and we did the interview

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and Mrs Murray sat there weeping throughout,

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talking about what a lovely wee girl she was and how she'd left

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the rest of the family to go to the fish shop to get her Saturday treat.

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And I remember sitting there thinking,

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this is a fantastic interview, this is just a wonderful interview.

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And the other part of my head, if you like, the human part, was going,

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what on earth am I doing in this woman's living room?

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And all I could say to her at the end was, "Mrs Murray,

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"I'm so sorry this has happened to you, genuinely.

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"And all I can say to you is this interview is going to have

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"a tremendous impact when it goes round the world",

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which it did. But at the same time, when we left the house,

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my hands were shaking and the cameraman just put his head

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on the steering wheel in the crew car and we had to sit there

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for about five minutes while we got our breath back.

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Just driving around like this, I don't think about it all the time

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and I don't obsess about it, but if I go for a drive like this,

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then I remember, oh, yeah, there was somebody shot dead there,

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there was an explosion over there.

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The Troubles went on for so long, they affected so many people

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and they were so diverse across the city,

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in some places, you could say every kerbstone has a story to tell.

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One of the things that's really struck me

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is how many people still want to come up and tell you their story

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about who they knew who was killed,

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about how they might have been there themselves,

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but for happenstance, they were somewhere else.

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And they still want that story to be told.

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And I think that's very important. If there's one important thing

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the media did in all those years and still can do,

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is just let people tell their stories, have their say.

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At the time though, not all those stories could be told.

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There were just too many stories to tell and they kept coming,

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day after day after day.

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I felt it was very important to keep communicating

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that human side of the violence,

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but at the same time, I had to keep an eye on

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what was happening with the politics because things were happening.

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The mourners at those funerals in the aftermath of the Shankill bomb

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didn't know, probably didn't care that day,

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what was happening politically out of sight.

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Gerry Adams carried the coffin of Thomas Begley -

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the IRA man killed by his own bomb on the Shankill Road.

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He had to, politically.

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Many of the bereaved said that if their relatives' death

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meant no-one else would die, they could take some comfort

0:24:510:24:54

and maybe they did.

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Because perhaps for the first time, politicians found

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the murders a reason to keep trying, not a reason to stop.

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If the implication from the honourable gentleman's remarks

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are that we should sit down and talk with Mr Adams

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and the Provisional IRA,

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I can only say to the honourable gentleman,

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that would turn my stomach over

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and that of most people in this house and we will not do it.

0:25:180:25:21

That language seemed unequivocal.

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Now a lot of us thought some sort of contacts might be going on

0:25:250:25:28

and they were.

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But it was a secret which was blown by the Observer newspaper.

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The denials had been so emphatic that the discovery was a shock.

0:25:340:25:37

Many journalists felt they'd been lied to.

0:25:370:25:41

The night before the Observer published,

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I got a call from a trusted government source.

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He gave me all the details

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and I was able to break the story on the late Saturday news.

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I doubt the government would ever have revealed the contacts otherwise.

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Now here's an object lesson.

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Journalists are really good at remembering the things they got right,

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and really bad at remembering the things they got wrong.

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I said on the late news that night that I thought it was very difficult for Sir Patrick Mayhew

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to survive this one, because it looked as though the government had been caught out

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doing something it said it wasn't doing.

0:26:130:26:15

But of course he came here on the Monday to make a statement

0:26:150:26:18

to MPs and was hailed all round

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for taking a bold and courageous step.

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A lot of the decisions, talks and agreements carried out

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during the peace process, were and remain secret.

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The unthinkable could be done in private

0:26:300:26:33

as long as it led to results in public.

0:26:330:26:35

I'd been to Downing Street many times

0:26:350:26:38

but what happened next sticks in my memory.

0:26:380:26:40

It's not much remembered now, but to me,

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the Downing Street Declaration was crucial.

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The Taoiseach and I have now agreed

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on a joint declaration on Northern Ireland.

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It is a declaration for democracy and dialogue

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and it is based on consent.

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It makes no compromise on strongly held principles.

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But it does embody our common view

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that there is an opportunity to end violence for good

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in Northern Ireland.

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This is a historic opportunity for peace.

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We hope that everybody will grasp it,

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So that we can all make a new beginning.

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This came against a background of the final years of apartheid

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and the collapse of the Soviet Union.

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So there was a temptation to see what was happening here

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as something going at the same pace and something on the same scale.

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So I had to take a fairly cold view of it, which was,

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Albert Reynolds had described it as a historic opportunity

0:27:410:27:45

and I said it will only prove to be a historic occasion

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if it pulls off what it's intended to do

0:27:480:27:51

which was to secure an IRA ceasefire,

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then a loyalist paramilitary ceasefire, which would in turn lead

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to all-party talks and then you'd have all-round agreement

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which I said at the time would be a very impressive

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series of tricks to pull off.

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A door to a solution which had seemed irredeemably locked

0:28:050:28:08

and bolted had just opened.

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At this point, I'd been Ireland correspondent for five years

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and I now had a changing story to tell.

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It was something that would change all our lives.

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The primacy of the gun was becoming the primacy of politics.

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But none of us - politicians, press, public -

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knew how much longer it was going to take.

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