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Seconds after the explosion, | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
the horror of an attack on people, on a community, | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
in all its raw brutality. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:13 | |
INDISTINCT SHOUTING | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
Behind the shields of the RUC's riot teams | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
the little girls of Holy Cross Primary go to school. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:25 | |
I nominate Martin McGuinness as Minister for Education. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
There it was - the reality of the Good Friday agreement. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
Sinn Fein in government. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
Let me make it clear. We will not be sitting in that government | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
with IRA terrorists. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
The marching season in Northern Ireland | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
is now where the old enmities find their expression. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
Just after the Good Friday agreement, somebody asked me | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
what had I learnt from it all, | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
and what I said was that people can change, when they have to. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:06 | |
And, time and again across 20 years, I reported upon the unthinkable | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
becoming the possible, and then the probable and finally, actual. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:16 | |
When I became Ireland Correspondent in 1988, | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
everything I reported on was extraordinary | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
but it dawned on me that what most people wanted was quite simple, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
that was the right to be ordinary. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
What I mean is, people just wanted to live normal lives, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
not surrounded by a kind of daily war. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
It was going to take almost a decade to get there. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
But there was a general assumption, outside Northern Ireland, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
that normalising would happen very quickly. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
So one of my problems | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
was to keep the non-Northern Ireland audience interested. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
Why was it taking so long to get the Good Friday Agreement to work? | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
For many reasons. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
Weapons decommissioning in particular would take years to resolve. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
NEWS REPORT: The biggest divisions in this campaign were in Unionism | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
and with the result so far, the camp against the Good Friday Agreement, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
led by Ian Paisley, is ahead on points. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
This contest hasn't even reached half-time yet. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
Dublin is sick! | 0:02:13 | 0:02:14 | |
Hear, hear! | 0:02:14 | 0:02:15 | |
Mr Tony Blair is sick. His lies has caught up him | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
and the sickest man of all is David Trimble. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
The attempt by the DUP and their allies to wreck the Assembly | 0:02:22 | 0:02:27 | |
has failed, and will continue to fail. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
On the way to office, Ulster Unionist leader David Trimble heads for | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
the first meeting of the new, devolved Northern Ireland assembly. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
He's the first local politician as First Minister, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
or effectively Prime Minister of Northern Ireland | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
to hold such an office, since 1974. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
We have arrived, and you have been compelled | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
by the votes of the people, to come here. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
Even in opposition, you will be part of the change | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
which will take place on this island. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
The newly-elected assembly met, but without powers. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
A sort of halfway house, but very significant all the same. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
A beginning. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
Politicians who'd never talked directly before, doing just that. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
Good afternoon. My name's Denis Murray. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
I was the BBC's Ireland correspondent for 20 years. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
And I've 35 years in journalism, all told. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
I was in an odd position, in a way, | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
that, as Ireland Correspondent for the BBC, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
I was reporting Northern Ireland and Ireland as a whole | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
to an audience outside of Ireland, | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
but most of the journalists in Northern Ireland were reporting the country to itself. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:44 | |
Up to the hunger strike, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
most of the reporting for London had been done by "firemen" - | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
people from London sent in for a week or two. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
So, eventually, they invented this title of "Ireland Correspondent" - | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
somebody who would have to live with the consequences of his reporting. | 0:03:55 | 0:04:00 | |
The Omagh bombing was one of the stories we had to cover. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
And I'll be straight with you - I found that really trying | 0:04:04 | 0:04:09 | |
because we thought it was all over | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
and then, suddenly, the worst thing imaginable had happened. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
There should've been a carnival here. Instead, there was carnage. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:22 | |
Saturday afternoon shoppers, here because it was safe. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
Crowded together, away from a bomb scare. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
Instead, the bomb was in their midst. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
It killed 14 women and three young girls. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
It killed five men and four young boys. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
It killed three generations of one family. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
A 65-year-old grandmother, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
her pregnant 30 year-old daughter, and her 18 month-old daughter. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
A litany of the dead, of the slaughtered innocents. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
29 people and unborn twins murdered. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
And to what end? None. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
There was something I found very striking after the bombing, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
because no matter who came here, Tony Bair, Bill Clinton, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:12 | |
Mo Mowlam, the Queen, they all did the same thing. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
Which was, they stopped and looked around | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
because they realised for the first time | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
just how narrow this part of the street is. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
And I could see they were all doing the same thing - | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
visualising what it must have been like when the bomb went off. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
# You can have my heart | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
# But it isn't new | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
# It's been used and broken | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
# and only comes in blue... # | 0:05:46 | 0:05:52 | |
As a reporter, one of the most remarkable things | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
about the aftermath of the bombing | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
was the genuinely open-hearted welcome from the people of Omagh. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:02 | |
I worried that the media would be seen | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
as not just intrusive, but invasive. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
But there was no hostility, which would've been understandable. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
Instead, people stopped you on the street to tell you their story. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
Not to have it broadcast or reported. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
Just to have somebody, a familiar face from the TV, to listen. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
A week after the bombing, there was a memorial service | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
and one of the prayers at that was, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
"We thank those who've told our story to the world." | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
and I can't tell you how much those words still mean to me. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
But the political process had become unstoppable. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
No violence was going to prevent the politicians trying to move ahead. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:55 | |
That was not going to be easy. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
But one thing they all agreed on was the first order of business | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
on the first working day of the Assembly at Stormont. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
All the members signed the book of condolence for the Omagh bombing. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
The rest of the sitting that day struck me as "business as usual". | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
In a way, its significance was that it was ordinary. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
One essential part of the agreement was anything but everyday. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
The early release of paramilitary prisoners | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
was - and remains - the most painful part of the whole process. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
Politically, it wasn't controversial. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
If the agreement was to work, it had to be done. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
The human level was totally different. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
Relatives of the dead, in many cases, had to watch killers go free. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:48 | |
Many families were put through the agony of loss all over again. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
Just looking at those shelves brings back so much. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
They say journalism is the first draft of history. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
Well, you're looking at it. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
Those are compilation tapes | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
and that means there's about ten reports on each tape, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
so there are thousands of reports up there. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
You look at that and you wonder how many people's lives | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
were recorded up there, how many people's deaths, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
how many people's lives were changed forever. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
An old country graveyard. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:36 | |
Hardly used now, but a grim discovery. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
A new coffin, partly concealed. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
The body found here is believed to be that of Eamon Molloy, | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
who disappeared from his North Belfast home in the mid-1970s. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
The Disappeared. 17 people kidnapped and murdered by republicans. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:55 | |
On the one o'clock news at the cemetery | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
I said that this was typical IRA. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
Effectively a token gesture, which was at best grudging | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
and, apart from the importance to the family, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
had no real significance. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
I was immediately phoned by a rather hurt Gerry Adams | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
who said I had under-estimated the significance of this | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
and that it was a major gesture by the IRA. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
I didn't change my opinion | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
but in later reports, I included his view. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
The most public search for remains | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
took place on this beach in County Louth. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
The hunt for Jean McConville, abducted in 1972. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
Her remains were eventually found. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
The most melancholy sight, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
just two undertakers needed to carry her coffin. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
Most of the Disappeared were young men. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
Some of the mothers put their son's names on family headstones, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:47 | |
just so they'd have a place to grieve. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
All the families wanted was a Christian burial | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
and somewhere to mourn. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
While I was Ireland correspondent, there was an assumption | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
that the peace process was finite, that it would end in something | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
but in many ways, it's still going on, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
because you can't build a new future without unravelling the past | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
and that still haunts us all. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
And I doubt if the full truth of the Troubles will ever be told. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
The murders of the Disappeared | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
were denied by the paramilitaries for decades. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
Eventually, the IRA admitted some of them. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
So, while they'd answered those questions about the past, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
they were still bluntly refusing to provide a resolution | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
to the issue of the present - getting rid of their guns. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
Two years they've had, to demonstrate a commitment | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
to peace and democracy. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
The key question is, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
is there any genuine intent, amongst the paramilitaries, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
to change, to commit themselves to peace? | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
With little progress on decommissioning in sight, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
implementing the totality of the Good Friday deal was impossible. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
The parties simply couldn't move their positions. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
So the Governments decided that, once again, help was needed. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
Former US senator George Mitchell, who chaired the talks | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
leading to the Agreement, was called on to return and lead a review. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
I believe those difficulties can be overcome. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
If I thought otherwise, I would not be here. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
The people of Northern Ireland have been clear, consistent | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
and overwhelming in their desire for peace and political stability. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:33 | |
At this stage, the parties were barely speaking to each other. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
George Mitchell managed to break the ice. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
The plan had been for the parties to "jump together". | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
The IRA would start decommissioning | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
and the Unionists would go into Government with Sinn Fein. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
David Trimble persuaded his party to take a risk | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
and share power with republicans before decommissioning started. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:57 | |
We've done our bit. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
And, Mr Adams, it's over to you. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
We've jumped. You follow. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
Despite all the problems, there was a very strong feeling | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
outside Northern Ireland that, once the agreement was made, that was it. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:23 | |
Put at its most superficial, that there was some kind of happy ending | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
in Ulster, that we'd all wished for. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
The level of world media attention dropped like a stone | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
and the hundreds of crews and reporters | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
who'd been here on Good Friday went away and, by and large, they didn't come back. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
The seemingly endless stops and starts of the process | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
ceased being international news, even though one of the starts | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
was the working reality of that agreement. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
I nominate Martin McGuinness as Minister for Education. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
DISGRUNTLED MURMURING | 0:12:55 | 0:12:56 | |
I couldn't help feeling that the Unionist outrage | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
over the very notion of Martin McGuiness in charge of schools | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
was the unionists' own fault. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
They could have nominated one of their own first. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
I affirm the pledge of office... | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
Even though it was a momentous day, I got a sense of fragility about it. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
I can't really explain why. It just didn't feel permanent. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
That Executive and Assembly, though, did a tremendous amount | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
of real, nuts-and-bolts political work. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
But you felt it was only one crisis away from collapse. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
Throughout this period, the politics went through cycles of deadlock | 0:13:28 | 0:13:33 | |
and then sudden bursts of progress. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
We always used to say it was like a blockage in a pipe | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
suddenly being removed, and the water gushed through. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
I've lost count of the number of times | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
I've stood at places like this | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
and said the once-unthinkable has just happened | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
And yet a couple of days later, they were taken for granted. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
They'd become part of the fabric very quickly. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
And all the parties, all the parties, threw away | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
what had once been tablets of stone. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
ANGRY SHOUTING | 0:13:59 | 0:14:04 | |
But you can't change all of history, all at once. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
SHOUTING | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
Ardoyne, North Belfast, and the Holy Cross Catholic Girls Primary School. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:20 | |
Protestants there felt an oppressed minority. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
Their protest was to block the parents and children | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
going to the school, which was in the Loyalist area. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
Holy Cross was expected. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
It would have been well flagged up, I suppose. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
People knew something was going to happen. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
I remember that night, part of my live report | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
into the late news programme. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
I said "if I can just add, having done all the analysis, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
and the facts, and so on, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
that it was one of the most poisonous, unpleasant events | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
it had been my misfortune to have to report. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
They were apprehensive, but they hoped the worst was over. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
Surely, today, the protest would be peaceful. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
There seemed fewer Protestant protesters than before. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
But, from one Loyalist side-street, the stones began to fly. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
Seconds later, the blast bomb was thrown from the Loyalist crowd. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:24 | |
EXPLOSION | 0:15:24 | 0:15:25 | |
-SECOND EXPLOSION -Oh, Jesus Christ! | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
People who, anywhere else, would be neighbours not knowing each other, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
here, the bile...the, just... | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
Only word I can think of is poison. Awful. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
And also because these children were so small, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
and they terrified out of their wits. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
I remember one little girl just crying, "I want to go home". | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
And I think that struck a chord with a lot of people round the world | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
because that's something all kids say | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
when they're at their wits' end, and they're miserable. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
After you had something like Holy Cross | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
certain sections of both sides said, "We have to stay the way we were", | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
for a brief while, because, "Look what them ones did to us." | 0:16:05 | 0:16:10 | |
And both communities were feeling hurt, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
and one of the things that dogged all of us for years | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
was that each community felt itself to be the victim community. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
Both sides had wrongs done to them | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
and what we used to call "whataboutery". | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
Bad things happened everywhere. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:33 | |
And one of the triumphs of the process was that, by and large, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
you don't hear that as much now, as you once did. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
People have accepted that bad things happened everywhere | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
and the real, important thing is that goal over there, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
of sorting the whole thing out. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
The great obstacle to that was the weapons issue. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
At an early stage, I took the view that if the guns weren't being used, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
then they were effectively out of commission, anyway. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
But I changed my mind. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:01 | |
The principle behind putting the weapons beyond use | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
completely trumped Sinn Fein's case, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
which was "the IRA won't do it, so don't ask". | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
By the late '90s, Sinn Fein had lost the argument. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
The first act of decommissioning was very significant. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
And because it was the first, it didn't matter what the quantity was, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
as much as the fact that it happened. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
One government official said to me at the time | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
it would've been significant | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
if it had been a rusty pike from the 1798 Rising. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
The process of decommissioning was never revealed to us. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
But it was impossible to televise. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
It was a concept, and nobody ever saw it. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
And we just had to wait and hear from the people that were there, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
that it had happened. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
Nothing would work without trust. At Stormont, it was yet to build. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:52 | |
This was over a purely political matter in the assembly. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
But it showed the parties still weren't used to | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
being in the one place, together. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
We will not allow ourselves to be distracted | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
by the sort of mob violence that certain parties descend to. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:08 | |
Move it in that direction. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
The tensions underlying the "brawl in the hall" | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
reflected those in the wider society. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
ANGRY SHOUTING | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
The divisions were as wide as ever, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
with sectarian murders and an increase in punishment beatings. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
The absence of political progress didn't help. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
Just as throughout the Troubles, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
people coped, and got on with their lives. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
While things were becoming more normal, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
events that couldn't have been predicted | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
were threatening the future of the process. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
Three Irish republicans were arrested in Colombia. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
They were charged and convicted of aiding Marxist guerrillas there. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:57 | |
No-one believed they were eco-tourists. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
Then, Stormont-gate. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
Sinn Fein's offices at Parliament buildings raided by police. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
There were accusations of a spy ring involving Sinn Fein officials. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
This is the offices of a political party | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
which sits in this assembly. This is an assembly building! | 0:19:14 | 0:19:20 | |
All the charges were eventually dropped | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
but this was the crisis that proved too much. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
The assembly collapsed. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:27 | |
The public was simply bewildered. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
What on earth was going on? | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
Unionists were outraged. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:35 | |
They held crisis talks with Tony Blair | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
but any trust they'd had in Sinn Fein was destroyed. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
Sinn Fein went to Downing Street, too. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
They saw the raid as a politically-motivated stunt, | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
aimed purely at damaging them. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
In a speech in Belfast, Tony Blair laid it on the line. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
The fork in the road has finally come. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:02 | |
Whatever guarantees we need to give | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
that we will implement the agreement, we will. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
Whatever commitment to the end we all want to see, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:12 | |
that of a normalised Northern Ireland, I will make. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
But we cannot carry on with the IRA half-in, half-out of this process. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:24 | |
The assembly wouldn't sit again for another five years. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:29 | |
In that political hiatus, Sinn Fein's electoral support went up. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
But at least some elements of the IRA believed | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
they weren't just half-out of the process, and they reverted to type. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:42 | |
An armed gang raided the Northern Bank and got away with £26 million | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
after terrorising two bank officials' families. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:51 | |
The IRA flatly denied any involvement. Nobody believed them. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:57 | |
What was going on was this immediate post-conflict society | 0:20:57 | 0:21:03 | |
trying to achieve some kind of normalcy. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
And those incidents were important for this reason, in my opinion. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
It showed the paramilitary grassroots that a ceasefire meant | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
not stopping some actions, or operations as they called them, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
but stopping all of them. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
There was a phrase shot through the Troubles as well, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
which was, "The dogs in the street "knew how the paramilitaries were operating in their own society." | 0:21:24 | 0:21:31 | |
Journalists knew a lot of that, but thinking you know something | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
isn't the same as being able to prove it, | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
so we couldn't report a lot of that stuff. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
Now the murder of Robert McCartney changed all that. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners... | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
The rosary, a traditional Catholic ritual for the dead. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
This is a Republican community saying to the Republican movement, "It's time to come clean." | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
Robert McCartney was beaten and knifed to death after a row in a pub. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:59 | |
His family is convinced members of the IRA did it, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
and they're now intimidating local people. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
It was a bar full of people. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
It wasn't one man did it. It was a gang of men. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
Why are they not charged? | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
Simply because people are obviously afraid to come forward. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
The McCartney family's campaign for justice showed in sharp relief | 0:22:21 | 0:22:27 | |
how Republicans worked at street level - cover up, lie and intimidate. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:32 | |
The self-image of the IRA as noble freedom fighters was shattered. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:38 | |
Robert McCartney's sisters didn't set out to do it, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
but they achieved something nobody else had, no politician, no group. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
As never before, Sinn Fein was on the back foot. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:50 | |
In the past, I have defended the right of the IRA to engage in armed struggle. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:55 | |
I did so because there was no alternative for those who would not bend the knee, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
or turn a blind eye to oppression, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
or for those who wanted a national republic. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
Now there is an alternative. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
The bank robbery and the murder of Robert McCartney had a dramatic effect. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:12 | |
They became the catalyst for Gerry Adams' appeal to the IRA to disband, which it did. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:18 | |
That really was seismic. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
What's really striking when you come to the Republican plot at Milltown | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
is how far back the Republican memory goes. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
A hundred yards away over there is a memorial from 1798. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:36 | |
But then Gerry Adams made his appeal to the IRA, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
which he wouldn't have made if he didn't think the IRA were going to do it. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
And the IRA drew a line under their most recent campaign. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:48 | |
So after 30, almost 40 years, that was the end of it all. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
Two months later, the IRA completed the decommissioning of its weapons. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:57 | |
Even so, our jobs as journalists didn't get any safer. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:02 | |
As the Protestant Orange Order, their bands and supporters | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
came past the Catholic Ardoyne area, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
they came under attack from golf balls and bottles. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
As soon as the first missiles flew, police pushed the Catholics away, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:18 | |
a manoeuvre the locals felt to be out of proportion. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
The police pulled a manoeuvre that we hadn't seen before. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
Normally they would just sweep past the camera crew, but not this night. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:34 | |
'We got stuck in a place we normally wouldn't have been, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
'and the water cannon turned in our direction. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
'Whoosh, it was all over you. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
'It wasn't so much the force of it, it was the volume of it. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
'It was like drowning in the air, I couldn't breathe.' | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
And the cameraman's nose started to bleed and wouldn't stop. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
But he also had a blinding headache within five minutes. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
We couldn't drive back from here. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
But in another supposedly safe part, other members of the team, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
one of them got hit by shrapnel from a blast bomb, | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
and one of the correspondents got hit in the shin by a brick that had a piece of nail in it. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
His whole shin began to swell up. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
In all my years of reporting | 0:25:12 | 0:25:13 | |
I don't remember so many people getting hit in one night, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
or so many people from the one team getting hit in one night. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
Leadership is lonely, defeat worse yet. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
David Trimble listens to his DUP opponents' victory speech. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
The Ulster Unionist Party, under his leadership, | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
lost the trust and support of the Unionist electorate. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
The political scene had changed. The makers and breakers of a deal were now the DUP and Sinn Fein. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:43 | |
The old political extremes had become the new middle ground. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:48 | |
Throughout this period, the politics stayed deadlocked | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
and we seemed to spend hours at endless country houses in England | 0:25:55 | 0:26:00 | |
while the two Prime Ministers tried to hot-house the thing. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
But I remember vividly, it struck me in September 2005 | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
that Ian Paisley in particular, but the DUP in general, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
really wanted to get back into government. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
They wanted to share power with Sinn Fein, | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
and they wanted another election as well before it happened. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
I said this to my two closest colleagues. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
They said, "That'll never happen, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:22 | |
"that would mean Ian Paisley throwing away 40 years of his career." | 0:26:22 | 0:26:27 | |
And I said, "I bet it does happen." And do you know what? I was right. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
The deal was done, and this time it really did feel permanent. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:39 | |
Now the debate would not be under the shadow of the past. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
It would be about education, health and the budget. Ordinary politics. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
In my 20 years as Ireland correspondent, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
I watched Northern Ireland move from the agony of the Troubles, | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
through the ups and downs of the peace process, | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
and finally, to this new dispensation. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
It was my privilege to be an eyewitness. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
And it's few journalists who get to see their story come to a conclusion. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
-IAN PAISLEY: -If you had told me some time ago that I would be standing here to take this office, | 0:27:09 | 0:27:15 | |
I would have been totally unbelieving. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
MARTIN MCGUINNESS: 'We know this will not be easy, | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
'and that the road we are embarking on will have many twists and turns.' | 0:27:21 | 0:27:26 | |
It is, however, a road which we have chosen, | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
and which is supported by the vast majority of our people. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
Even now, everyone in Ireland up to a point | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
is some kind of prisoner of history. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
But the greatest achievement has been that those bonds have been broken. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
If you look at the political history up to about 1988, | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
and if you look at it now, it's utterly transformed. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
Set that against the previous 700 years of conflict, | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
and I think that's just truly remarkable. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
Denis Murray, BBC News, Belfast. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
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