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Glasgow. A city made famous by its heavy industry | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
and even heavier drinking. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
A city of hard men and even harder women. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
If you think these guys look tough, you should meet their mammies. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
A dear, green place where the skies are 50 shades of grey. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
A lot of people from Greece are looking at this and going, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
-"That would be a lovely place to stay!" -SHE LAUGHS | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
This year, with the eyes of the world on Clydeside, | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
four of us Glaswegians explore what it means to belong to Glasgow. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:40 | |
Whoo! | 0:00:40 | 0:00:41 | |
My name is Elaine Constance Smith. Bet you didnae know that. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
I've been an actor and comedienne for over 30 years, | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
and I've made my name playing Glasgow women. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
A lot of people think I come from Glasgow, but actually, | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
I was brought up in a wee mining village just outside the city... | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
And my brolly! Fuck off! | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
Glasgow for me was this place away in the distance, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
a fairyland, full of sophistication | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
and I was desperate to be a part of it. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
I think Glasgow's a city built on the shoulders of its great women, | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
but you don't often see them celebrated | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
in the way that we do our city fathers. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
You don't see Glasgow women put on any pedestals. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
So I want to show you a different Glasgow. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
A Glasgow made by its women. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
Scotland is the place that I was born into, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
but Glasgow is the place that made me, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
so I suppose you could say, I Belong to Glasgow. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
MUSIC HALL ORGAN PLAYS "I BELONG TO GLASGOW" | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
# Well, when I get a couple O' drinks on a Saturday | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
# Glasgow belongs to me. # | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
Oh! | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
Could I get a single to Glasgow, please? | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
It's been years since I've been on a bus, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
and this particular route is a trip down memory lane. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
Coming from Newarthill, just outside Motherwell, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
there was only one way to make the 12-mile trip. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
And the bus would be full of women, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:35 | |
dolled up for a day's shopping in the city. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
Coming into Glasgow with my mum was a really big adventure. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:45 | |
Going shopping was really a full-day affair. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
The excitement you had about a day in Glasgow. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
It wasn't quite as luxurious as this, I have to say. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
And of course people smoked on buses then, as well. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
What's wonderful here is that there's a mix of nationalities | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
that would never have existed all those years ago. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
The Glasgow I was coming into in the early '70s | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
was all black buildings and heavy industry. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
But I didn't see that. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:15 | |
My Glasgow in the '70s was the bright lights | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
of the big department stores and their gallus Glasgow glamour. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
One of the weirdest bus journeys, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
I ended up in court, believe it or not, because the bus driver | 0:03:24 | 0:03:29 | |
got out his cab and head-butted a passenger for being cheeky! | 0:03:29 | 0:03:34 | |
I gave my evidence of what had happened. The wee guy who | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
had been huckled and all that came up to me afterwards and went, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
"Thanks very much for that, hen. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
"I don't even remember getting hame that night!" | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
SHE CACKLES | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
Sorry, disrupting your journey here, girls. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
Thank you, thanks very much. Bye-bye! | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
And this is where it started - the shopping. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
How are you? | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
Thank you very much. Pleasure to meet you, by the way. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
You're an absolute legend! | 0:04:10 | 0:04:11 | |
"There's her, what's her name again, Dorothy Paul?!" | 0:04:11 | 0:04:16 | |
This bit really should have been called the Argyle Street Triangle. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
Look! | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
Fraser's. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
Arnott Simpson's. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
Lewis's. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:28 | |
Shopping heaven. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
You could be lost for days here. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:31 | |
It was on those shopping trips with my mum | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
that I really noticed the women in their glad rags | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
and the men with swaggers that could dry a washing. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
Even to this day, Glasgow's women are dressed up and on show. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
And why not? | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
Glasgow's always been a city to be seen in. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
Now it's staking its reputation on being | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
the most fashionable shopping district in the UK. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
We're bold, we're brash, and we don't care what other people think. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
I think Glasgow has a different style to the rest of the UK. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
I think it's more Scandinavian and Northern. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
It's very artsy, very eclectic, very different, yeah. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
You can sort of dress the way you want here. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
Most people, like me, obviously, have got the confidence | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
to wear what they want. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
-I tell you what it is, it's all about the accessories. -Uh-huh. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
A good handbag. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
-And a decent scarf. -Uh-huh. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
And a nice wee bit of jewellery. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:23 | |
I think Glasgow's one of the only places in the world | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
that you can wear shorts on a winter's day | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
and that's appropriate. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:29 | |
That's a nice one. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:32 | |
So maybe it's not what you wear, at all, it's how you wear it. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
-Hi, how are you? -Hi! | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
Someone who should know all about Glasgow style | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
is fashion historian Mairi MacKenzie at Glasgow School of Art. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
Her research looks at identity through fashion. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
What Glasgow does is it puts together its look really well. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
It's about the way people style themselves here. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
It's not about what's designed here. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
Your outfit might only be Primark or wherever... | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
-But putting it all together... -Putting the whole thing together will really matter. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
People in Glasgow really dress up. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
Much higher concentration of designer clothing. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
Glaswegians wear their money. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
Yes, Versace opened its only store outside of London, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
Ichi Ni San, all of these shops did incredibly well. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
Now, this gaff is a different kettle of raw fish aw thegether. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
This is Ichi Ni San in the heart of Glasgow's trendy Merchant City. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:29 | |
Ichi Ni San's Japanese, by the way, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
don't know what it means in English. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
-Probably What Every Women Wants. -SHE LAUGHS | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
That'd be a laugh, eh?! | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
Where is the need to make the effort? Where does that come from? | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
There's real pleasure to be had in the simple act of dressing up. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
I think it can be denigrated, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
and fashion is often equated with shopping, and it's seen as frivolous. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
But I think it's a really powerful tool | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
in the creation of your self-identity. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
Identity? | 0:06:55 | 0:06:56 | |
Identity crisis, more like. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
That was my Chrissie Hynde phase, by the way. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
The example of Glasgow's women gave me the freedom | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
to express myself. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
And express myself I certainly did. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
MUSIC: "Superstition" by Stevie Wonder | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
In 1976, as a trendy drama student, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
I moved to Glasgow's West End. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
# Very superstitious... # | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
I started to really know what it was to be a Glasgow woman, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
working shifts as a barmaid and singing in the city's smoky clubs. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:30 | |
This was my introduction to the hard, macho drinking culture that | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
I'd heard about, and later became famous for acting in. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
Haw, BT? | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
Any chance of a full glass roon' here? | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
I'm off to relive those days, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
for a drink in one of Glasgow's oldest pubs with someone who remembers the dark days | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
when a women at the bar was as rare as a teetotal journalist. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
Famous Weegie hack, Jack MacLean. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
Sir Jack MacLean, I believe it's you. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
Elaine, how are you? Great to see you. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
I'm very well. I'll buy you a drink. What do you want? | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
I'll have a small brandy. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:05 | |
Tell me about this place, the history of this place. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
This is traditionally what you might call a wee man's shop. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
Had you to be wee to get in? | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
Well, I am! | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
The most basic thing of course was that women could come in | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
but they often didn't. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:19 | |
I was brought up in a house where my dad didn't drink at all, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
so therefore, pubs for me had this romantic, mystical quality. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:27 | |
In some of the pubs I remember there was a hatch where the drinks | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
were put through into the snug, for the women. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
They used to go in and actually try and buy a pint of beer | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
but they were always refused. They could have it in two half-pints. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
When I first started going into pubs, I do have to say | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
I felt intimidated walking in to a bar, and I worked in the Doublet. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:49 | |
-You felt intimidated?! -Yes, I did! | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
Believe it or not. That's where I learnt my skills, if you like. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
And working in pubs I was able to come back | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
and be a smartarse, or whatever. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
Men can show their weaknesses in a pub | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
that they'll no' show in their own house. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
Did you prefer it being a man's shop? Tell the truth. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:09 | |
I will tell you the absolute truth, and I'm a bit ashamed of this, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
-I always preferred women coming into they shops. -Did you? | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
I've frankly always preferred the company of women | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
to the company of men. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:20 | |
So why would you drink in here, then? | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
Waiting for the women to come in and chat me up, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
-just like you, baby! -Hey! | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
How would you say that the drinking culture in Glasgow has changed? | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
There has been an enormous change. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
Perhaps in some ways there's been a feminisation, as healthy in society. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:37 | |
There's been that in some of the pubs. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
Old-fashioned pubs like this, I think, are a thing of the past. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
But it was in these male-dominated, smoky bolt holes | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
that I learned to be the woman I am today. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
So, when were the ladies' lavvies put in, then? | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
We did create one in June, 1996. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
June 1996! I mean, that isn't that long ago. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
It was embarrassing for some of the ladies | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
having to use the facilities next door. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
Is that what they did, they went down to the pub down there? | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
Or sometimes their boyfriend would do "edgie" for them | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
and watch at the gents. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:10 | |
-Who was the first to use it? -I was the first! | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
-Are you kidding? -No! | 0:10:13 | 0:10:14 | |
-How did you do that? -Standing up, of course! | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
ELAINE CHORTLES | 0:10:17 | 0:10:18 | |
Aye, would ye! | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
So there you have it - women are more welcome in pubs | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
and look at the progress, we've even got our own lavvy! | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
Pubs taught me how to handle myself, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
And that served me well when I threw myself | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
into another male-dominated world - comedy. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
By the 1980s I was starring alongside | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
the cream of Scotland's talent | 0:10:43 | 0:10:44 | |
in hit TV shows like Naked Video and City Lights. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
-Have you got a girlfriend? -Sorry? | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
Being a woman in the industry has been difficult. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:56 | |
Have you got a girlfriend? | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
I was the wife, the mother, the nurse, the daughter. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
You don't get to be named | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
And generally the tag-lines would be given to the men. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
Ah, for God's sake, woman! | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
Oh, thanks! | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
TRAIN HORN SOUNDS | 0:11:12 | 0:11:13 | |
And then, if you were a singer that could act | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
and I was lucky I had a big chest, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
so if you've got a big chest you get to play dames and older women! | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
It was playing an older character | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
when I really turned to the women of Glasgow for inspiration. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
I was Dolly in the original Wildcat Theatre production | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
of The Steamie - a play inspired by the city's working-class ladies. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
Most plays were all men with a token woman. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
This was all women with a token man. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
You want to ask what I should do with a Yankee? | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
It was a play about life, hardship | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
and a celebration of what it was to be a Glasgow woman in the 1950s. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
-Can YOU dae it, Andy, eh? -Oh, aye. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
One thing that's hard to believe is, it was written by a man! | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
My old pal Tony Roper. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
-Smudger! -Sir Anthony Roper, I believe! | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
I wanted it to be the way I thought that women | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
communicated with each other. Because it's different from men. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
I remember you said, "Smudger, I've written this play. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
"You're a feminist. Naebody wants to put it on. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
"Gonnae have a wee read at it?" | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
I'd love to say I went, "Yes, it will be a massive hit", | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
and the hit that it became. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:29 | |
I didn't. I just thought it was about women, I thought | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
it was really funny, I thought the characters were fantastic. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
I tell you what I thought was, until you did Dolly in The Steamie, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:42 | |
I didn't realise that you were a very, very good actress. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
And I still think that you were so good in that. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
Oh, thanks, hen. This'll save me washing my feet the night! | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
I couldn't have been that good, cos when they made | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
the TV version, they cast Eileen McCallum as Dolly. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
Truth be told, I was playing a part 40 years older than me, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
and Eileen's performance was pure dead brilliant. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
Televisions, tae! | 0:13:08 | 0:13:09 | |
See when that television's on? Naebody talks. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
-God, that wouldnae suit you, Dolly. -Naw, naw! | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
So, one of my favourite songs in the whole thing, | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
eventually, was Doreen singing "Dreams Come True". | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
# Dreams come true... # | 0:13:22 | 0:13:27 | |
I loved the laugh that came from the audience | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
when she was singing about it, because they knew the irony of it. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
The laugh was, "I'll get it eventually. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:34 | |
"I've put my name down for a hoose in Drumchapel!" | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
The hope in the 1950s of what a hoose in Drumchapel would be. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:41 | |
# Me and John will get a new | 0:13:41 | 0:13:47 | |
# Hoose in Drumchapel | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
# Where dreams come true. # | 0:13:51 | 0:13:59 | |
Drumchapel, eh? | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
"Hullo, Drumchapel 3776?" | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
Tony's play really captured the reality of life at that time | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
for those working-class women, and finally gave them a voice. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
I am her maid! | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
Did your mum have an influence on the play at all? | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
Yeah, she went to the steamies in Glasgow. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
So although she wasn't in rehearsals, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
was there a sort of nod to your mother in that? | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
Oh, definitely. Oh, I adored my ma, absolutely adored her. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:33 | |
In fact, if I go on, I'll greet. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:34 | |
-I know, I'll greet too, don't make me greet! -So we'll stop. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
Aye, we'll stop there, yeah, yeah. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
The play's success has gone way beyond Glasgow. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
The warmth of the characters has touched the hearts of people | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
from all different backgrounds all over the world. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
The Glasgow wummin had landed. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
It became a sort of phenomenon. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
I had never experienced a reaction or an audience like that. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
The entire audience stood up. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
Something happened between us and the audience that went, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
it was like that. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:07 | |
I never, in my wildest dreams, did I ever think that | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
if I did write something, it would have lasted for as long as it has. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:16 | |
And will go on. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:17 | |
Govan please, driver! | 0:15:21 | 0:15:22 | |
I'm really proud that I was a part of bringing | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
that piece of Glasgow women's history | 0:15:27 | 0:15:28 | |
to audiences all over the world. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
"I had a fantastic year touring with The Steamie, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
but for over 20 years, my career was dedicated to playing | 0:15:34 | 0:15:39 | |
another, more infamous Glasgow woman. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
Hey, Mary! Get your arse in here a wee minute, hen! | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
'Mrs Mary Doll Nesbitt.' | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
Is that you? | 0:15:47 | 0:15:48 | |
That's me hen, that's that. It's official! That is me, pure mental! | 0:15:48 | 0:15:53 | |
Pure mental! Oh, Rab, I'm that pleased for ye! | 0:15:53 | 0:15:58 | |
'I remember a woman coming up on Buchanan Street | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
'and she said, "You're that lassie aff the telly" | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
and I was like, "Yeah, yeah," chuffed I was being recognised. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
She says, "See that Glasgow wummin, hen? Naebody does it like ye." | 0:16:07 | 0:16:12 | |
And that was like the best compliment | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
I could ever have had, because they were believing it. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
Here, Rab, I brung your pieces, you forgot them. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
He'll no' have time to eat those, he's got far too much work to do. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
'It was really important for me' | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
that it really offended the middle classes! | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
"That's a terrible image to give of Glasgow!" | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
-I wouldn't even attempt to argue with you. -Good. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
No, instead I'll get right doon tae it and gie ye the severe malky! | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
But in fact, it's another Mary from Govan that is one of my heroes. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
Mary Barbour. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:47 | |
I was in my early 20s before I discovered that Glasgow's history | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
wasn't built on men alone, and that | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
many of the city's revolutionary figures were actually women. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
One of these great women was Govan housewife Mary Barbour. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
In 1915, she led one of the largest rent strikes | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
in political history. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:09 | |
MUSIC: "Happy" by Pharrell Williams | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
# It might seem crazy What I'm 'bout to say... # | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
So, let's see in today's Govan, which Mary is better known. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
Thanks, driver. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
Could I speak to you for a wee minute? | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
Oh, no! | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
Does anybody in Govan know who Mary Barbour was? | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
Hello! | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
-Do you know who Mary Barbour was? -No. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
-Do you know who Mary Doll is, Mary Nesbitt? -Aye, you. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
-Do you know who Mary Barbour was? -What you doing here? | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
I'm doing a documentary about my Glasgow, if you like. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
You're looking well. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:45 | |
Thank you darling, no' bad for an old bint. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
I've always watched you. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:48 | |
-Do you know who Mary Barbour was? -Don't have a clue. -See? | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
Do you know who Mary Barbour was? | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
-That Mary Doll? -No! | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
Mary Doll is the only Mary we know! | 0:17:56 | 0:17:57 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
# Laugh along if you feel that... # | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
Thankfully, I've found someone in Govan that does know | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
who Mary Barbour is - former Labour MP, Maria Fyffe. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
This area here has changed out of all recognition. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
Maria is a chairwoman of a campaign to raise the profile | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
of Glasgow's greatest unsung hero. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
Mary Barbour was a woman who achieved something fantastic. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
A Govan housewife who led 20,000 tenants to victory | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
and created a change in the law that affected the whole of Britain. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
In 1915, when Glasgow's men were off fighting for their country, | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
greedy landlords took advantage of a housing shortage | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
and pushed up rents. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
It was Mary Barbour | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
that led the women in a fight back against the factors, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
organising protests and preventing evictions. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
When a particular tenant got conned by the factor | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
into paying the extra rent... | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
He had lied to her and said the other tenants where paying up, | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
and when Mary found out | 0:19:00 | 0:19:01 | |
she marched down to the shipyards, spoke to the shop stewards | 0:19:01 | 0:19:06 | |
and got them to come out with her to go to the factor's office | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
where they demanded that he pay the money back! | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
So she knew about protection! | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:19:14 | 0:19:15 | |
# Mrs Barbour's army swept through Glesga like the plague... # | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
There's a wonderful photograph saying | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
"God help the sheriff that tries to get into this!" | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
# While oor menfolk Fight the Kaiser | 0:19:25 | 0:19:26 | |
# We'll stay hame and fight the war | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
# Against the greedy bastards who Keep grindin' doon the poor... # | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
Some of the landlords took 18 tenants to court | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
and on that day, Mary Barbour organised a huge march | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
through the city of Glasgow. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
20,000 apparently turned out in that march | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
but the men also came out the shipyards. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
In the Sheriff court that day, they were in a panic | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
because the men were feeling really ferocious about it | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
and threatening to pull the city apart! | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
They said, "What will we do?" and they phoned Lloyd George, | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
who was Munitions Minister then, and he said "Let the tenants go" | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
and before the month was out, he got a law passed | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
to say the rents would be restricted. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
So that was legislation new of its kind in the whole of Europe. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
So it's a fantastic achievement. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
It's almost like their history been ignored. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
What do you think about that? | 0:20:22 | 0:20:23 | |
I grew up in a family where we knew about Keir Hardy | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
and about John Maclean but knew nothing about Mary Barbour | 0:20:27 | 0:20:32 | |
until many years later, and I thought, why is this? | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
Someone that was an inspirational figure. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
If they could do that in those days, with living in poverty, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
leaving school at 14, if they could do all that, what's stopping us? | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
Absolutely. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:47 | |
What is the campaign about, then? What do you want to achieve? | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
I want to see a statue of Mary Barbour in Govan. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
I am sure she would feel very honoured by that. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
And about high bloody time, I think! | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
Well, Maria, you've got my full support. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
There are loads of statues all over this city. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
If Maria's campaign is successful, it will bring | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
the number of public statues of women in Glasgow to a grand total of | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
four. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:20 | |
Aye, there she is. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
Here, in Govan, is one of them. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
Lady Elder, Glasgow philanthropist. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
But what I can't bear is, on the statue, it's not even her own name! | 0:21:30 | 0:21:35 | |
It's "Mrs John Elder". That's ridiculous! | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
And this tribute to a Spanish civil war leader is number two. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
La Pasionara. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
And number three is apparently somewhere here in George Square. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
Right, guy. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
Who's up there? Definitely a guy. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
Guy, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:01 | |
guy, guy, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
guy, guy on a horse. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
Another guy there. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:07 | |
Ah! A wummin! | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
A wummin! | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
Queen Victoria! | 0:22:13 | 0:22:14 | |
The only woman in George Square. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
12 statues, 11 of them are men, one's a woman. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:22 | |
We are not bloody amused! | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
I've got a list as long as my arm | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
of women that I think deserve a statue. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
Women that have done something for this city, like Eilish Angiolini, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
another Govan girl and first female Lord Advocate of Scotland. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
Or Jessie Campbell, pioneer of education for women | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
or founder of the Special Needs In Pregnancy Unit, Dr Mary Hepburn. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:49 | |
I could go on and on. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
But what about the Glasgow women of the future? | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
Do our modern-day lassies have what it takes to carry | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
the strong, female fighting spirit on? | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
Well, I'm off to meet a group of friends | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
who live in the west of the city. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
# We are the Glasgow girls | 0:23:05 | 0:23:06 | |
# We show them how to do it | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
# We'll show the world how to Get up and do it... # | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
In 2005, this bold bunch of teenagers from Drumchapel High | 0:23:11 | 0:23:16 | |
took on the immigration services after their friend Agnesa | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
and her family were removed from their home. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
to be deported back to Kosovo. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
This is our home! | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
In true Glasgow style, the pals caused a giant stooshie | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
and started a campaign against the removal of children in dawn raids | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
that went all the way to the parliament. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
So I'm here with the gorgeous Glasgow Girls, I've joined you now. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:40 | |
So, you must have been incredibly shocked. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
One of our best friends, she phoned me | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
and she said, "Amal, look. Agnesa's been taken away in a dawn raid. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
And I was like, "What's that mean? What does a dawn raid mean?" | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
And she explained to me that 14 officials went to her house | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
on a Sunday morning, seven o'clock, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
and basically put them in a detention, like, vans, and drove them | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
to England, and it's a detention centre, which is like a jail. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
Everybody was really supportive of the cause. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
Even people you would think maybe spoke out against asylum seekers | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
and believed all the myths. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:09 | |
They were coming out in support of it and saying, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
"Actually, it's not good that children are being taken form their bed during the night." | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
Asylum seekers come to the UK because there is safety here | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
because they are fleeing persecution and war, and so many other reasons. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
If they knew they were going to be treated like that, you know, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
they would not bother coming here. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
I was very shocked and surprised. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
For me, watching it, as someone living in the city, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
it was your youth, your exuberance, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
your determination to make something happen, but it was also | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
that you were all mixed races - you were Scots, you were from | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
all over the place. Where are you from originally? | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
North of Iraq, I'm Kurdish. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:46 | |
-Kurdish, and where are you from? -Somalia. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
Somalia. So it seems to me you have adopted | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
a complete Glaswegian woman's sort of sensibility! | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
I think that's what it is about the spirit in Glasgow. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
Such a community place, such a socialist place | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
and you know, when something is wrong, we will come together | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
and we will fight against it. SCREAMING | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
In a victory for the girls, Agnesa and her family | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
were returned to Glasgow after three weeks. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
You guys won, as well. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:17 | |
There was a lot of, like, we won, as you say. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
That our friend came back, and our campaign started that way. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
It actually also changed lots of people's attitude as well. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
What, to immigration? | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
To immigration and to asylum seekers. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
But this was just the start of their fight. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
I want to welcome the young people in the gallery this morning. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
These Glasgow gals took their campaign to the Scottish Parliament | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
and then all the way to the Home Office in London. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
I think it's outrageous that people are being treated like this. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
Their campaign led to a UK-wide review | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
of the asylum seeker removal system. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
And they even got to meet Darius. Remember him? | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
-We're the Glasgow Girls! -I know you are! | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
CHATTER | 0:25:59 | 0:26:00 | |
Has the whole experience changed you? | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
I mean, who are you today? | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
After the campaigning, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:06 | |
I went and studied law and politics and I graduated. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
Now I work at Radio Scotland. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
I'm studying a Masters in Human Rights and International Politics. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
-She's a high flyer! -She obviously is! | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
You know, the root of this is, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
because you did it out of compassion for a friend. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
And a sense that this wasn't just. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
See, that for me, that's Glasgow. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
Right, let's go and get pished! | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
Just like the long line of tough Glasgow women before them, | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
these modern-day Mary Barbours are fighting for change. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
That's the Glasgow spirit I knew back in the 1970s | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
and it's the spirit I can still see today. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
Right, rant alert. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
It's time Glasgow did more to recognise its women. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
But if we wait on the city fathers getting off their Archibalds, | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
well, we'll be waiting till the cows come home. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
So, I'm starting a fund to raise money for more statues of women. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
And where better to begin than | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
with a wee song for all the Glasgow wummin? | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
# In the second city of the Empire | 0:27:10 | 0:27:15 | |
# Mother Glasgow Watches all her weans | 0:27:15 | 0:27:21 | |
# In trying hard to feed her Little starlings | 0:27:21 | 0:27:26 | |
# Unconsciously She clips their little wings | 0:27:26 | 0:27:31 | |
# And Mother Glasgow's Succour is perpetual | 0:27:32 | 0:27:37 | |
# Nestling the Billy and the Tim | 0:27:37 | 0:27:42 | |
# I dreamed I took a dander with St Mungo | 0:27:43 | 0:27:49 | |
# To try to catch a fish That couldnae swim | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
# And Mother Glasgow's Succour is perpetual | 0:27:55 | 0:28:01 | |
# Nestling the Billy and the Tim | 0:28:01 | 0:28:06 | |
# I dreamed I took a dander With St Mungo... # | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
Glasgow has been so good to me. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
The people of this city have given me | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
my comic timing, more than anything else, | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
and to make a Glasgow audience laugh | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
is one of the best things that could even happen to you. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
Making them greet as well is good, too. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
I like making them greet, not always intentionally! | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
# Let Glasgow flourish! # | 0:28:30 | 0:28:38 | |
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
Look, I've even made money, that's brilliant! | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
Right, I'm going hame for my tea now. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:28:47 | 0:28:48 | |
I'm exhausted! | 0:28:48 | 0:28:49 |