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Have you ever had to fire that one in a situation? | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
Oh, yeah. Yeah, somebody threw a tricycle through | 0:00:04 | 0:00:08 | |
my front window in a confrontation with one of my kids. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
I went out there with this, and I... | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
I shot the car, and by the time I got done, walking back to the house, | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
the SWAT team had me surrounded. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
And I went to jail. I went to jail. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
I was in the north side of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
an area afflicted by sky-high levels of gun violence. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
Stop! Police! | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
The past few years have seen a surge in homicides here... | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
-REPORTER: -Chants of "This is our city" can be heard as police try | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
to block off... | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
..and a mounting distrust of the police. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
Man, look, I'm going to tell you right now how I feel about the police. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
-BLEEP -the police. That's how I feel about it. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
I was here to find out what was behind the killing, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
and what hope there was for one of America's | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
most desperate communities. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
This is not part of God's plan. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
God does not deal in death, God deals in life. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:10 | |
This programme contains very strong language and scenes which some viewers may find disturbing. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:18 | |
-RADIO: -It's all over to you right now. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
I've got a black vehicle behind the car here. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
I was with the police, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:25 | |
in pursuit of a car full of suspected armed robbers. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
Holy shit, this is smoking! | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
Keep walking that way. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
Nobody cares, just get out of here! | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
-Back off. -Get everybody back! | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
The pursuit had ended in a crash. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
Officers were attempting to control the scene. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
If that thing blows, get across the street. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
-RADIO: -There's a gas leak, with a car that is smoking. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
Is he OK? What happened to him? | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
-He was part of the car crash. -They were in the car that fled. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
He's injured, so we've got to get medical in here. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
So he got hurt in a car crash? | 0:02:00 | 0:02:01 | |
Yeah, this red one here was taken in an armed robbery. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
-Did he try to run? -That was the car that was fleeing, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
when we were on the radio. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
How would you gauge the mood around here right now? | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
It felt quite tense. When we rolled up, it felt a little bit tense. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
Yeah, that's because all this police are here. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
We have individuals in handcuffs, and given the mood of late, | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
they're not too happy about that. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
It felt like the police were slightly outnumbered, for a moment. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:27 | |
Yeah, I mean, initially, probably. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
But, you know, we don't have any control of the scene yet, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
cos it's so fresh. You can see we have tape up now. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
We have kind of control of this immediate area. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
When we first get here, none of this is up, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
everyone's just right on top of us. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:39 | |
These few square miles in the north of Milwaukee | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
are among America's worst for violent crime. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
Any shootings out here? | 0:02:55 | 0:02:56 | |
Yeah, I know, you guys are always chilling out here. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
The rate of incarceration here is one of the nation's highest. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
Stop! Police! | 0:03:06 | 0:03:07 | |
He's got a gun, he's got a gun! Don't fucking move your arm! | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
Don't fucking move your arm! He's still moving. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
Guns are pervasive. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:16 | |
You guys got IDs on you? I'm going to have you step out of | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
the car quick, and I'll explain why we're stopping you, OK? | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
-No guns on you, right? -Do you have any guns on you, man? | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
Just keep your hands up for me, man. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
For police, it is not always friendly terrain. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
Did you hear the shots fired out here about an hour ago? | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
-No, nothing? -I was working inside. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
-Nothing? -I'm not allowed to come out. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
-Hello. -Oh, you all doing a documentary? | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
Yeah. You know, there's a lot of gun crime, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
and there are a lot of homicides here for a city its size? | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
-Yeah, I heard a lot on the news. -Yeah, what's that all about? | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
I mean, honestly, I don't know. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
I guess the police, they fail to protect our community. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
That's what it's about. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
-That's why we wear our Black Lives Matter shirts... -Mm-hm. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
..because we do matter. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
They don't care how our neighbourhood looks. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
But I think they're here now because they're trying to reduce | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
the crime. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
I mean... | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
I don't think that's true. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:15 | |
Ma'am, here's the thing, we've got a report of a shooting over here. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
-Do you know what happened? -I don't think they're trying | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
to reduce the crime. I think they're trying to escalate the crime. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
Why would they do that? | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
I don't know, baby, there goes one right there, ask him. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
Y'all have a good day! | 0:04:28 | 0:04:29 | |
While she said that, I'm looking for casings involved | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
in this shooting, so... | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
We still haven't found any yet, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:44 | |
but we should be able to find out eventually what has happened. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
-What's happening? -We're going to sit in the truck. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
We're a little vulnerable standing out here. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
-Really? -I do, yeah, someone take a pot shot from over there, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
or over there. It wouldn't surprise me. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
-So where are we going now? -A homicide. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
Shooting, 2525 North Hubbard Street. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
Car, six people, and a van, shot a man in the face. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
Gunshot wound to the head, PNB, which means pulses, not breathing. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
We've got a body on the street, and we don't have any eyewitnesses yet. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
You know his name? | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
Yeah, he had a picture ID in his pocket. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
-Antonio Ewing is what's on his ID. -How old? | 0:05:29 | 0:05:34 | |
Born in '85. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:35 | |
-Born in '85? So that would make him 31? -Yes. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
Do you have a description of a shooter? | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
Nothing. We have nobody that's claiming they saw anything yet. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
We've got a couple of people that heard gunshots, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
that's all I have to go on. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
What are the plausible scenarios in a case like this? | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
-One would be a robbery. -Mm-hm. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
Another would be some kind of a drug deal gone bad. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
Unfortunately, that's very common. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
The third is just some type of grudge. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
A lot of our homicides are because of things said | 0:06:06 | 0:06:11 | |
or done on social media. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
SCREAMING AND SHOUTING | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
Families get very emotional. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
Many times there's disorder, and they can get very violent. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
-Mm-hm. -That's why I'm just keeping you here for now. -OK. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
Having the body here is also a thing. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
We need the body here for evidentiary reasons, but yet, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
they'll come time where we just have to move the body | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
to help with the tensions in the neighbourhood. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
WOMAN SOBS | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
So did you know the victim? | 0:06:47 | 0:06:48 | |
Your cousin? | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
Yeah. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:52 | |
Family. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:55 | |
Do you know anything about what happened? | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
It's bad. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:06 | |
Do you know who this is? | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
That's his mother. That's my auntie. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:13 | |
-That's the mother of the victim? -Yes. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
You know? I don't know. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
I don't know what happened. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
Milwaukee's homicide rate spiked unexpectedly two years ago | 0:07:59 | 0:08:04 | |
for reasons that remain obscure. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
Some blame new laws making it easier to carry a gun. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
Like other Rust Belt cities, Milwaukee is plagued | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
by unemployment, poor schools and rampant crime. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
By some measures, it is the most segregated place in America. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
Relations between police and the community had become | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
even more fraught than usual. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
Two weeks earlier, an officer had shot and killed | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
23-year-old Sylville Smith, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
in circumstances that were still disputed. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
SIREN BLARES | 0:08:43 | 0:08:44 | |
-REPORTER: -Tensions boil over on the streets of Milwaukee | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
Saturday night. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:48 | |
Two nights of unrest had followed. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:49 | |
A chaotic scene near Sherman and Auer | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
as a gas station goes up in flames. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
We're not supposed to do anything at all. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
We're just supposed to sit there and take it. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
Man, enough is enough, man. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
The man in this video was Sylville's brother, Sedan. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
I'd arranged to meet him at a shrine to Sylville, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
close to where the shooting had taken place. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
-Louis, are you Sedan? -Yeah. -Louis, how you doing? -Hi, man. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
Tell me about what we've got here. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
Is this a T-shirt with Sylville on it? | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
This is one of the T-shirts with my little brother on it. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
It says, "Rest, Bro. We got you 5ver." | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
People come every day and put their own stuff on here. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
We both was named after cars, so we've always been close together. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
-You know what I'm saying? -Named after cars? | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
Yeah, Cadillacs. My name's Sedan, his name's Sylville, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
we both named after cars. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
What was the story, what happened to Sylville? | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
Basically, he was in a car... | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
-..that was perceived to be suspicious by the police. -Mm-hm. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:46 | |
Which was their reason for stopping the car. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
He allegedly got out of the car and ran. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
And the news said he allegedly pulled a gun. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
-Pulled a gun? -Yeah. | 0:09:57 | 0:09:58 | |
But then on the autopsy report, it shows he was shot | 0:09:58 | 0:10:03 | |
in the back of his car, fleeing. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:04 | |
And he was also shot under his armpit, meaning his arms was up. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
Given the narrative you describe, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
why'd you think Sylville wouldn't have dropped the gun? | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
-See... -Why did he run? is the other question. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
In that situation... | 0:10:19 | 0:10:20 | |
Being in situations where you hear what the police do to black men | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
-in the community, carrying a gun and having one... -Mm-hm. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
..the way he thought was fear. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
So if I'm fearing something, my first instinct is | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
to get away from that. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
But now the police are out here. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
That's all I can see. They don't like me. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
But this is how they come after we come. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
They come like that, they profile the tree. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
They do that to cause intimidation, you know what I mean? | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
When they see me out here, especially, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
they want me to stop doing this. That's my brother, | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
I ain't never going to stop. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:53 | |
The officer who shot and killed Sylville | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
-was himself African-American. -Yeah. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
Now, you could argue that it suggests that maybe it wasn't, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
-at least, a racist act? -No. -No, no, no, no. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
We don't turn it into what it's not. You feel me? | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
At the end of the day, it's not a race war. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
You see the police right here, right now? | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
It's them against us. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
It's not a white on black. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
It's a blue on black. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
Are they not concerned... | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
Because there's been a track record of civic unrest, right? | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
-There's been incidents and uprisings... -Right now... | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
I think their concern is to de-escalate anything... | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
-If y'all listen right now. -..before it happens. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
Listen, listen. If these cameras weren't here right now, | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
if y'all want to go duck off in your cars, and see how it really is. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
Me and him, right now, we'd be standing here, not making no noises, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
we could be talking to each other, they will pull up and tell us | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
keep our feet moving, we loitering. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:42 | |
It was reported that in the 24 hours leading up | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
to Sylville's death, right, there was something like five or six | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
fatal shootings, right? | 0:11:50 | 0:11:51 | |
Five fatal shootings in that 24-hour period, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
which says that there's this deeper situation to do | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
with out-of-control homicides in the African-American community. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
This is a state where there is a lot of trash that needs to be cleared up | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
in the first place. There is a war on drugs going on here since 2006, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:10 | |
you know what I mean? And now there's guns in it. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
They giving us the right to carry the guns, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
without cleaning up the drugs. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
Do you both have guns? | 0:12:16 | 0:12:17 | |
I have Smith & Wesson's. Both my guns are Smith & Wesson's. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
I have a nine millimetre and I have a 380. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
-Those are handguns? -Yes. -Handguns. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:23 | |
Man, you can get your hands on any gun, you've got the | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
right to buy them, you know? | 0:12:26 | 0:12:27 | |
What have you got, Sedan? | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
I ain't going to say. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:31 | |
-You're not going to say? -I can't say. -Why? -OK? | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
-Why can't you say? -Because my momma took my guns. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
Your momma did? Yeah. Why did she take your guns? | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
Cos she found out what happened to my brother, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
and she knows how I am, so she took them. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
With police viewed with suspicion, many on the North Side | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
prefer to find their own solutions to crime. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
-Hi, Shonda, how are you doing? -All right, all right. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
One is community activist Shonda Payne. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
Shonda grew up in the Vice Lords gang, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
had a baby at 13, and committed murder at 15, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
before turning her life around and founding Unity In The Community, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
an anti-violence group. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
She was now raising her children on one of the most | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
lawless blocks in Milwaukee. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
So what happened last night? | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
I'm not sure. Just a lot of shooting, a lot of... | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
..blood, people running and screaming and hollering. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
-Was anyone killed? -No-one killed, but definitely people injured. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
Last week, we had... | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
..a newborn baby, five-day-old baby come, and that's when the house, | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
my house, got shot with the bullets and all that, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
and a lot of the rest of these houses right here. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
I had to, kind of, fall to the floor with the baby in my hands, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
and then prepare my weapons and also secure my little ones | 0:14:07 | 0:14:12 | |
-at the same time. -It's sad that you have to do that. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
It's sad, but it's kind of, like, what's going on. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
I can babysit, shoot a gun, and cook at the same damn time. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
This is where I make more babies every morning. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
Because we live where we live, I kind of sleep... | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
on the ready. She's always right here next to my bed. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
-What is that? -It's a Mossberg, it's a 12 gauge. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
Mossberg... | 0:14:39 | 0:14:40 | |
..she's the one I trust in anything | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
cos this is what the police use. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
This goes, normally, in my bra. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:50 | |
I just do like this. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
Nobody even knows I have it. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
And then when I'm in the bathtub, I take this one. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
-I'm just going to point that that way. -Oh, yeah. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
-All of them are on safety. -Are they? -Yeah. I don't... | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
I got too many kids. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
But this is what I do when I'm in the bath tub, I lay it back here, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
cos I lay right here, and I take a towel, and I just do like that, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:15 | |
I throw it over it. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:16 | |
And if my kids want to come in the bathroom, they don't see it. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
Around here, you've definitely got to have several places | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
where you are able to run and you're able to have shelter. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
And you keep them all loaded? | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:28 | |
Always. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
Always. You never want to ever have something that is not ready to go. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:40 | |
That's how you die. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
That's how you die. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:43 | |
Shonda had fostered and raised more than 20 children. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
One was 16-year-old Kyree. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
Do you feel that you're in a sort of | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
at risk situation with peers of yours, | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
people your age who you know or you're aware of, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
who are doing lawless stuff, running around with guns? | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
I don't really worry about it cos it's not me. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
You know? | 0:16:09 | 0:16:10 | |
Like, it's not really surprising or shocking any more to me. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
It's, "Oh, he has a gun, he's 15." | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
A lot of parents at home right now, when the kids get to be | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
comparatively bigger than the mother, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
cos there's almost always no father at home... | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
..what do you think somebody that's 5ft 4", 187lb | 0:16:29 | 0:16:35 | |
compared to a 220lb 6ft 1" male | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
is supposed to do with a child that is defying you? | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
-You tell me. -I'll tell you what I had to do a couple of weeks ago | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
when he told me what he wasn't going to do. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
I took a skillet and I took a knife, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
and I hit his ass right in the head. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
And I told him, "Now, do you feel you want to do what I said now?" | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
He said like, "Oh, shit, I think I get it." | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
Did you feel that was reasonable? How did you feel about that? | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
Not at the moment I didn't feel it was reasonable, but afterwards... | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
I get it. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
-I mean... -Look how many of them dying out here. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
Every night. Look how many dying. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
She doing something right because... | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
-I ain't out there. -Exactly. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
I'm not in stolen cars, I've got my own car. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
-He don't do drugs. -I don't do drugs. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
You know, you obviously have weapons for self protection. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
-Exactly. -You said your children do? | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
Oh, yeah. He knows how to handle every single thing in this house. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
-But he doesn't have a weapon now? -No. He's 16! | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
So when would he be...? | 0:17:37 | 0:17:38 | |
-18. -Then he gets one? | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
18, he can have his own. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
He has known since the age of seven years old | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
how to move with every single weapon, automatic weapons, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
semi-automatic weapons, he knows how to load them, he knows how to un... | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
He knows how to break them down. He knows every single thing. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
CHILDREN GIGGLE | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
How old...? GUNSHOT | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
Fuck! They so fucking disrespectful! | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
Why would you shoot in front at all these fucking people, man? | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
That's the shit I'm talking about. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
They don't give a fuck! They shoot and drive off. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
What if somebody fucking gets hit? | 0:18:15 | 0:18:16 | |
That's the shit I'm talking about. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
The light shines in the darkness... | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
..and the darkness cannot overcome it. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
We gather here... | 0:18:43 | 0:18:44 | |
..to remember, to grieve... | 0:18:46 | 0:18:47 | |
..for the death of Tonio. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:50 | |
I was at a vigil for Antonio Ewing, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
the young man whose homicide scene I'd been at | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
on my first night in Milwaukee. | 0:18:58 | 0:18:59 | |
It doesn't take much to retaliate. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
It doesn't take much to return evil for evil. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
Anybody can be a conqueror... | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
..but we are called to be more. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:15 | |
Because we know that the only thing violence brings is more violence. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:23 | |
The only thing that death brings is more death. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
So let's not pretend that this was Tonio's time. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:34 | |
-It wasn't! -It was too early. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
Tonio, did you hear that? | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
PEOPLE WAIL | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
Did you hear that? | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
Oh, man! | 0:19:44 | 0:19:45 | |
This is for you, Tonio, wherever you at. This is for you. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
I know you can hear us, I know you see us. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
This is for you. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
This is a homecoming, this is not no going away, it's a homecoming. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
You have been reborn. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
Amen. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
-Donald, can I grab you for just a minute? -Yes, yes. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
-How are you doing? I'm Louis. -Louis, how you doing? | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
Tonio, that's my step-son, OK? | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
He's 30 years old, young man, young man. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
He worked with me, I got him a job and he worked with me. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
I looked out for him and he stayed with me, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
stayed with me and his mother. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
He never bothered nobody, never started nothing with nobody. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
You know? But he was just hanging out with the wrong crowd. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
He was harmless, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:26 | |
and somebody came out here and they killed my cousin. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
These streets is vicious. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
'I wondered if Antonio's life might help me understand | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
'what was behind the gun violence in Milwaukee?' | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
Hi, Karen. How are you? | 0:20:42 | 0:20:43 | |
'Donald asked me back to the house he shared with Antonio's mother, Karen.' | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
Right now, I don't know what I'm feeling. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
I'm just always spaced out. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
And it really hasn't kicked in yet, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
she having lost someone so close, her son. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
Sit down for a minute. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
It's crazy. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:08 | |
And, tell you the truth, I've just had some more bad news. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
What bad news did you just have? | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
My niece... | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
-My friend just got killed. -A niece of yours or a friend of yours? | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
Yes, a niece of mine. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:24 | |
-How old? -Young, young. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
My nieces is all of them young, all of them young. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
In Milwaukee? | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
Yes, right here in Milwaukee. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
-Today? -There's so much happening in Milwaukee. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
We're not talking about Chicago, we're talking about Milwaukee. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
But A lot of people come from Chicago up here to do... | 0:21:39 | 0:21:44 | |
Donald. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:46 | |
Let me talk. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
SHE SOBS | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
Crime on crime. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:52 | |
You know what? We need to... | 0:21:54 | 0:21:55 | |
No, serious, we need to stop this. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
-No, serious. Seriously. -No. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
Seriously. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:01 | |
Oh... | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
Donald, Donald. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:04 | |
I don't even want to talk, you know. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
I'm already messed up in the head right now. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
Well, we all are. But like I said... | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
I want to see him. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
-This is Tonio when he was a baby. -I was 25 when I gave | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
-birth to him. -And this is her. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
-No way? -Yeah. -That's nice. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
There you go right there, when he was in school. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
Is Tonio in the middle standing up with the cat? | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
-No, there's Tonio. -Oh, that's Tonio on the left? | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
He was a rapper, too. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
-And he was good. -He rapped under the name Blizz Montana? | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
-Yes, yes. -And that's Tonio there? | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
This is his daughter right here. She looks just like him. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
May I ask about Tonio's father, his dad? | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
He's incarcerated. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
-Right. -Incarcerated? | 0:22:58 | 0:22:59 | |
-He's in jail. -He's in prison? | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
-Yeah. -Was the dad able to be a dad to Antonio? | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
Oh, yeah. Yes, yes, yes. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
Yes. He wasn't locked up when Antonio...? | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
He was an asshole, but he was... | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
He did for his kids, yeah. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
'Outside on the porch, the conversation continued with | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
'Donald and two of Antonio's cousins, Trish and LaWanda.' | 0:23:20 | 0:23:25 | |
How many children does Antonio have? | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
-He has four children. -Four children? -Yes. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
How many mothers? | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
-Four. -Three. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
-Four. -Four. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:35 | |
Antonio has four children with four different women. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
That's four fatherless children? | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
Absolutely. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:43 | |
We're two days in now, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
do you know if they're making headway with the case? | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
Have they made progress in terms of finding | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
the culprit? | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
We haven't heard nothing. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
We haven't heard a word yet. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:56 | |
But the detective did tell us what Antonio had on him when he died. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:01 | |
They did say he had some money, he had keys, | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
he had a title to his car. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
That's all he had on him. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
No drugs, no nothing. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:09 | |
I'm hurt right now. My heart is... | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
I don't know where it's going right now. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
I don't know who done it, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
I don't know why they done it. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
But if the police can find out, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
the authorities can find out and then let us know something. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
Let us know something. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:25 | |
There had been another homicide on Milwaukee's North Side. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
One of the side-effects of the high rate of armed robberies | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
and murders in Milwaukee is that there are also many killings | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
that are legal and justified as self-defence. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
This showed signs of being one of them. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
You're the captain? | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
-Captain Boston Smith. -I am, sir. -Yes, nice to meet you. -Yes. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
Do you have a picture of what happened yet? | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
Basically, two individuals came into the home, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
shots were exchanged, and the person that's left deceased does not reside | 0:25:16 | 0:25:22 | |
in the residence. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:23 | |
Two individuals came in the home, who didn't live there? | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
-Correct. Is what I... -Shots were exchanged... | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
..between the two individuals and persons at the house? | 0:25:31 | 0:25:36 | |
Correct. That's the information, the prelim information. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
So what is happening right now? | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
We have some individuals that has come from our | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
Sensitive Crimes Unit, and they're conducting | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
their individual interviews of possible witnesses | 0:25:47 | 0:25:52 | |
who may have heard or seen something, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
or who was in the house at that time. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
So, many times, they would take them from the house | 0:25:56 | 0:26:00 | |
and they will sit them in the car, | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
so that they can interview them alone without being heard. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:07 | |
Are you getting good cooperation? | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
-From the individuals in the house? -Mm-hm. -At first we was not. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
-Why not? -Um, this is an area that we kind of struggle with | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
when it comes to the police. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
A lot of times they don't like to tell the police anything, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
they don't trust us. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
There's a perception that if they cooperate with the inquiry, | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
they are somehow snitches? | 0:26:28 | 0:26:29 | |
Yes, they have a saying out here on the street | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
that "snitches get stitches." | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
5'8" east. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
2'4" south. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:41 | |
In charge of the scene was a 24-year veteran | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
of Milwaukee PD, Gust Petropoulos. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
Having cleared the house, he and his team were gathering evidence | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
and he'd allowed me inside. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
You'll see a gunshot wound there. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
-There's two in the leg too. -There's one in the neck. OK. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
Looks like they tried to put some pressure on the neck there. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
That's potentially ballistic damage. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
That's likely ballistic damage as well. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
This is the initial story I've got so far | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
and it's from the man of the house. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:14 | |
He's a gentleman named AC Crockett. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
He says to me that he was at the neighbour's residence. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:22 | |
Comes back, he sees his son, | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
Craig Crockett, on the front porch talking to a couple of young men. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:30 | |
He doesn't know what the conversation is, | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
but he shares with us that his son does tattooing... | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
..in the house here. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
These may be customers, or presumed customers, I don't know. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
AC goes upstairs to check on another son of his | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
and he hears gunshots going off. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
He comes downstairs to discover this guy laid out on the floor here, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:53 | |
and his son injured. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
And then his son says, "They tried to rob me." | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
He says, "I'm shot, I've got to take myself to the hospital," | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
which he does. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:03 | |
Do we know anything about this guy? | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
We believe he's Anthony Trice. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
He was born on Christmas Day, 1993. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:09 | |
The co-actor with him fled on foot, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
but AC thinks he might have been hit as well. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
The other thing I noticed was the trajectory of the holes in the floor | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
over here. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
They're relatively dramatic down. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
What does that tell us? | 0:28:27 | 0:28:28 | |
It tells us somebody stood over this guy... | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
..started hitting him like that. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:35 | |
It would be OK to fire enough rounds to stop the threat, | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
but not to fire directly down? | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
If the threat is over... | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
You have to stop? | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
Yeah. So there's more to this story. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
How confident are you of... | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
..solving the case? | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
I have no idea. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:58 | |
I don't. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
What we know... I think I know who shot him. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
It's going to be Craig, right? | 0:29:02 | 0:29:03 | |
I mean, his own dad is telling us that's | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
who shot this guy, right? | 0:29:06 | 0:29:07 | |
What are the circumstances surrounding how Craig | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
came about shooting him? | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
I don't know for sure. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:13 | |
I'm not sure I'm ever going to know the whole story, right? | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
Whether Anthony Trice had been an armed robber | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
and the killing justified, for now, remained an open question. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:26 | |
But I was struck by the self-perpetuating nature | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
of the violence - | 0:29:29 | 0:29:30 | |
crime leading to people arming themselves against crime. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
SIREN BLARES | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
Meanwhile, the accomplice of the suspected robber remained at large | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
and, very probably, armed. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:44 | |
I'd been learning more about Antonio Ewing, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
the man murdered on my first night in Milwaukee, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
whose family I'd met. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:57 | |
He'd done two years in prison for dealing cocaine and heroin, | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
but it was also said he had been trying to change his life. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
He'd been about to release a CD under his rap name, Blizz Montana. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
-Hey, Dougie. -What's up? -Can I come in? -How you doing? Yeah, yeah. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
'I'd arranged to meet a handful of his friends. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
'They too were musicians.' | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
-Are you from Milwaukee as well? -Yeah, I'm from here, man. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
Do you have a sense of what's behind the violence | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
here in Milwaukee? | 0:30:29 | 0:30:30 | |
Man, it's... | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
It's a sense of hopelessness. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
You know, and the atmosphere. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
It's like, it's not a lot of jobs here, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
like half of the African-American men are locked up. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:45 | |
-OK, you're a music producer, right? -Mm-hm. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
So you're not leading the kind of outlaw life, | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
the sort of thug lifestyle. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:51 | |
Correct? But do you feel you need to have a weapon to be safe? | 0:30:51 | 0:30:57 | |
-Yeah, I got one right now. -Really? -Yeah. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
-I've got... -Right here, right now? | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
-Right now, yeah. -Where? | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
See, it's right over there. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
-Show us. -It's a nice little... -Show us. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
It's a nice little, you know... | 0:31:08 | 0:31:09 | |
Be careful with it. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
No, I know how to handle it. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
-It's legal, though. -That's legal? -It's legal. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
-What is that? -All my weapons are legal. It's an AR-15. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
This one we ride around with, man. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
-For real? -And we not starting no trouble. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
We don't, you know... This is all for self-defence purposes. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
You just went from being like a very plausible high-end music producer | 0:31:27 | 0:31:32 | |
to looking almost like a paramilitary guerrilla... | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
-Yeah. -..which was a weird transformation to witness. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
I mean, you know, you got to have something if you're | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
in Milwaukee, man. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
If Blizz had a gun on him, he would be right here right now. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
Yeah. Y'all wouldn't have been right here even talking to us. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
-If Blizz had had a gun... -If he had had a gun... -If Blizz had | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
-a gun, he would still be with us right now. -He would still be alive. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
And he usually got the gun on him every day. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
Cos then he would have shot the guy who tried to kill... | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
-well, who killed him. -Or the guy would have thought | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
-twice about doing it. -He would have thought twice about doing it. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
-He wouldn't even have did it. -If I would have seen him approach | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
Blizz, I would have told Blizz, "Don't leave, don't leave." | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
-Know what I'm saying? -You would have said, "Don't leave." | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
-Leave where? -Leave my porch. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
So he stepped off your porch? | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
Yeah. He stepped off my porch, he walked around the corner, | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
he got shot twice in the head and once in the chest. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
Do you know who did it? | 0:32:25 | 0:32:26 | |
-Don't know who did it. -We don't know who did it. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
-For real? -Yeah. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
Would you tell me if you knew? | 0:32:31 | 0:32:33 | |
Um... | 0:32:33 | 0:32:34 | |
Probably not. Probably not, to be honest. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
Yeah. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
You said Blizz used to hang on your porch quite a bit, | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
so you got to know him well. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
I knew him very, very, very well. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:46 | |
What was he like? | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
He was quiet. Blizz probably... | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
The way he looked... | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
He looked like a grimy person, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
like if a person was to just glance on him, | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
he looks like he'll rob people or, you know, but... | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
Blizz had the kindest heart. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:03 | |
-You said "grimy," right? -Yeah. -People thought he had a - | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
don't take this the wrong way - but a slightly mean face? | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
Yeah. That's what I mean, his features. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
He looked like he was out here on the streets and he was, | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
you know, doing this and that. He was nothing like that. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
He had some convictions, though, didn't he? | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
-Yeah, he had some convictions. -For dealing, I think? | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
Yeah. You know, but... | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
Everybody don't deal for the same purpose. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
He probably was dealing trying to feed his family. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
He had four kids by four baby mamas. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
-Right. -So he... | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
I mean, he must have had a little bit of an appeal to the ladies. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
-He was a ladies' man. -Yeah. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:38 | |
He was most definitely a ladies' man. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
-Yeah. -Ladies' man, ladies' man! | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
Four babies by four women - on the one hand, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
that's like someone who's got a way with the ladies. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
On the other hand, you could say, well, | 0:33:50 | 0:33:51 | |
he was having difficulty maintaining stable relationships. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
-Yeah. -He was just out there having fun. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
He never really paid attention... No, he never had no | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
female problems, he controlled all that. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
You know, he had four baby mamas, but he had a hold of all four of the | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
baby mamas. He never spoke to us about his problems, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
you know, any of that. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:11 | |
He always kept his personal business to himself. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
You know, so that... That was just... | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
I don't know. You know what I'm saying? | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
That shit was just crazy. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:21 | |
I left not much clearer about the causes of Antonio's killing. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
It would have been tempting to see it as related to his drug dealing, | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
but I'd also been told that more deaths came from | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
petty arguments over almost any kind of issue, | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
often fuelled by social media. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
And, underlying it all, a readiness to use guns to deal with conflict. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:50 | |
What are you drinking? | 0:34:54 | 0:34:55 | |
Vodka and orange juice. You in? | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
Have you got any? | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
-Right there. -I'd like a little one. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
'Looking for some answers, I was back with Shonda.' | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
And there ain't no gunshots, we can chill. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
Cheers. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:09 | |
How have you been doing? | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
Ups, downs. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:18 | |
Has it been quiet on your corner? | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
Oh, hell, no. The zip code here is just kind of the Mecca for | 0:35:20 | 0:35:25 | |
a lot of the shooting and violence. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:30 | |
Do you feel you've got an insight into what it is that makes someone | 0:35:30 | 0:35:34 | |
shoot and kill someone else? | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
Uh, in a way. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
But things are a tad bit different, you know, these days. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:46 | |
Then it was more gang-related, more turf, more, you know, survival. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:53 | |
Almost like a Mafia type of thing? | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
Yeah, it was pretty much, you know... | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
If that section had something you needed, you wanted, I mean, | 0:35:58 | 0:36:03 | |
that's what you did. You just, you fought for it, you battled for it. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
Whereas, now it's... What is it now? | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
It can be because, I mean... | 0:36:08 | 0:36:09 | |
Somebody may have rear-ended somebody in a simple car accident, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
and somebody gets out, "Oh, you hit my damn car," | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
and, it's like, "OK, well, let's just..." | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
Pow, pow, pow! | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
And, you know, the guns come out, you know. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
In war, which is pretty much what this shit has become, | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
there's rules of engagement. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:27 | |
And those rules have kind of... | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
..been tossed out the door, you know, kind of like... | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
You know, there's no boundaries. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
What is the issue, do you think? | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
-Is it guns? -A lot of things. -Is it property, is it values? | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
It's not just guns. It's the values, the morals, the social... | 0:36:40 | 0:36:45 | |
..injustices. Everybody's always worried about, | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
"This is mine, mine, mine, mine, mine." | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
And that shit is just... | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
It has to stop. You have to start worrying about the house | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
next to you, you have to start worrying about your neighbour. | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
Start worrying about, you know, are they OK? Not just if you OK. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:03 | |
And the police? | 0:37:03 | 0:37:04 | |
Do you see them as a big part of the problem, honestly? | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
Not a big part of the problem, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
but they definitely are not a fucking part of the solution either. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
The majority of them are worried about the wrong shit. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
Like, everybody pretty much is a criminal... | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
until they strip you of all your clothes, | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
take your car apart and everything. "Oh, you're not. Sorry." | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
Oh, don't do that, don't do that, don't do that. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
-Don't do that, do not fucking do that. -What was he doing? | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
He started filming them. They were about to shoot his ass. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
-GUNFIRE -Oh, fuck. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
Well, that car's turning around. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
It's time to motherfucking move and grab my shit, | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
cos these motherfuckers are going to start playing. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
-I would suggest y'all get moving with me. -Why? | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
Cos you can already tell, that van that just flipped | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
the corner, people that were right there just stopped, | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
you know what I'm saying? | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
And they're going to move | 0:37:56 | 0:37:57 | |
and I think they're about to circle around. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
And I'm going to sit next to the weapons of mass destruction, | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
because motherfuckers is really feeling they're playin'. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
Oh, here we go! 2834, North 28th Street. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
One round, in the alley. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
I was back on patrol with the police in District Five. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
-Hey, what's your name? -Malik. -Malik? Where do you stay at? | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
-Williams. -Just be careful, Malik. -All right. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
-Don't hang around the gas station. -Be careful out here, all right? | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
Was he getting gas or not? | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
-Obviously not. -What was he doing, then? | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
Well, that's a great question. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
I was beginning to understand the frustration of the community. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
I'd come to realise that on the North Side, | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
anyone who is black and male could be seen as a suspect. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
-Those three? -Those two. They keep looking back. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
That's the third time one of them looked back. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
These men turned out to be on their way home from catering jobs. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:09 | |
-What's the story? Were you on the bike? -Yes, sir. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
We just were minding our business, going back to his place, | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
and we just got pulled over. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
Have you been stopped before? | 0:39:17 | 0:39:18 | |
-Oh, yeah. -For what? | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
For exactly this reason. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:22 | |
Which is? | 0:39:23 | 0:39:24 | |
I fit the description. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:25 | |
It was clear how resentment might build. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
You had pulled them over for...? | 0:39:32 | 0:39:33 | |
-The tint. -For the tint on the windows? | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
It was too dark? | 0:39:36 | 0:39:37 | |
-What are you filming? -I'm filming you. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
Why did you pick Milwaukee to come film for? | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
Cos for a city its size, it's got a high rate of homicides. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
They got a high rate of police officers | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
killing the black community. I'm a community activist. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
For police, the innocent and the guilty were not always easy | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
to distinguish. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
How old are you? | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
He looks familiar. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
-38. -THEY LAUGH | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
-What's your name, man? -INDISTINCT | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
We first saw him, he was walking on the sidewalk. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
-He was walking, right hand, real stiff. -Yeah, it was real stiff. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
-We looked into his eyes. -What, the way he was walking was a tip-off? | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
Yeah, yeah. He just kind of looked... | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
His hand was completely still and his other hand moving. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
Never naive to think that we're going to stop gun violence, | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
but what we're doing is making a difference for a lot of people | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
that have to, you know, wake up in these residential houses | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
around Fourth and Fifth Street. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
You've been in this district about 20 years? | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
-Yeah, just... -Working it? -Yeah. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
So you must have seen people growing up here. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
-I've seen a lot of people... -Frequent flyers, kind of thing? | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
Yes, I have arrested, you know, along with all these guys, | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
I've arrested people three times. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
You know, from age, you know, 15 to 18 to 26. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:58 | |
We just had a guy that was killed yesterday in our district, | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
and I knew him personally because I had dealt with him. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
Does it affect you at all, you know, if someone you've seen around | 0:41:04 | 0:41:09 | |
-gets killed? -You know, not to sound cold or heartless, | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
you just deal with so many people that | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
if you cared about every single one that I dealt with, | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
I think I would go crazy. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:19 | |
Since being in Milwaukee, I still didn't feel I'd got close | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
to those most involved with the street life. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
And so, I was out in one of the most crime prone areas | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
of the North Side, this time with no community or police protection. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:52 | |
I didn't get a gun, man! | 0:41:52 | 0:41:53 | |
I had a rendezvous with some corner boys. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
How are you doing, guys? | 0:41:56 | 0:41:58 | |
All right? | 0:41:58 | 0:41:59 | |
Louis. What's your name? | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
-My name's Kev. -Kev, Louis. -Hello. -Louis. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:05 | |
-How you doing? -How y'all doing? -How's business? | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
Ha-ha! | 0:42:08 | 0:42:09 | |
It's good, yeah! | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
'Like so many here, they were recently bereaved.' | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
We just came from a funeral yesterday. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
There was a funeral yesterday? What was the guy's name? | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
-Tall T. -Tall T? -Big bro, yeah. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:20 | |
That was my cousin, too. RIP my cousin, Tall T, man. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
Do they know who killed Tall T? | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
-No. -I mean, the police, have they got someone in custody? | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
-Shit, I don't think so. -I don't know. -But do you know? | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
I don't know either. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
Do you have an idea? | 0:42:33 | 0:42:34 | |
-Are the streets talking? -The streets talking, yeah. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
They talking, but you know what I'm saying, | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
we're going to keep down on the low cos we don't want to be on | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
-the documentation. -So you're conducting an investigation yourselves? | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
-It's still an open beef. -Yeah, we doing a street investigation. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
We don't want the police to get involved with this cos they, | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
you know what I'm saying, going to try and lock people up and stuff. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
-We're going to keep that on the street. -Do you consider that you're in a gang together? -Hell, no! | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
-It's a brotherhood. -It's a family. -It's a family organisation. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
-We friends here. -We all have felons, so we can't get a job, | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
so all we know is to do what we doing, man. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
-You're, literally all of you, are felons? -I am. -I am. -Not all of us. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
-You are. What was your name? Kev? Are you Kev? -No, my name is Foo. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:13 | |
Foo. What are you a felon on? | 0:43:13 | 0:43:14 | |
-They got me on paper right now, for ten months. -Who's on paper? | 0:43:26 | 0:43:28 | |
Are you on paper? | 0:43:28 | 0:43:30 | |
What was the case? | 0:43:30 | 0:43:32 | |
A little pistol case? | 0:43:34 | 0:43:36 | |
Yeah, they knew he had it on him. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:37 | |
Was it possession, having one when you shouldn't have one type case? | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
-Yeah, and I threw it. -And you threw it? | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
Well, it wasn't my gun. I didn't throw shit. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:44 | |
Somebody, I don't know who threw the damn gun. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
They put it on me. I said, "What the fuck?" | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
But I'm fighting the case, though. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:50 | |
You know what I'm saying? It ain't mine. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:52 | |
-It wasn't my gun. -It wasn't your gun? -No. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
-You didn't throw it? -No. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:56 | |
What would you say was stopping you from leading | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
-a kind of 9 to 5 type of job? -I'm just stuck in the streets, man. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:07 | |
-I like the street life. -You do like it? -I like the fast money. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
You know what I'm saying? Flashy cars and shit like that. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
Big rings. American dream shit. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:15 | |
Did you feel you had much in the way of positive role models | 0:44:15 | 0:44:17 | |
growing up? | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
No. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:20 | |
Where's your dad? | 0:44:28 | 0:44:29 | |
Fuck that nigga. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:36 | |
What did... What did you just say? | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
-Fuck my pops, bro. -Why? | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
-Fuck his daddy. -That nigga don't... You know what I'm saying? | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
That nigga weren't ever here for a nigga like me. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:48 | |
I do this shit on my own, baby. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:50 | |
-Fuck that nigga. -Where is he? | 0:44:50 | 0:44:52 | |
Shit, he... | 0:44:53 | 0:44:55 | |
Shit, I don't know. You know what I'm saying? | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
That is how it is out here with niggas like me. | 0:44:57 | 0:44:59 | |
-You talking about our daddy? -Yeah. -My daddy right here. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:01 | |
-Basically! -You see somebody? You don't see nothing, right? | 0:45:01 | 0:45:04 | |
He's not around any more. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:05 | |
-My mamma's my daddy too. -My mamma's my daddy. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:09 | |
And that fuck it up for a lot of black men, cos when you a black man | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
growing up in the hood, you need a male, you need your father | 0:45:12 | 0:45:15 | |
to show you what to do and what not to do out here. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:17 | |
Your mother can't teach you everything. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:18 | |
-Your mother can't teach you how to be a man. -Not the street. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:21 | |
What do you see yourself doing in ten years? | 0:45:21 | 0:45:23 | |
Ten years? Shit, I just really hope I'll be alive, first of all. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
I hope I ain't in jail. I hope I ain't just finishing | 0:45:28 | 0:45:31 | |
a 10-year sentence shit in ten years. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
So, shit... | 0:45:33 | 0:45:35 | |
The corner boys struck me as more lost than lawless. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:44 | |
Victims of their absent fathers and of a street code of masculinity | 0:45:44 | 0:45:49 | |
that set no store by raising children. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:51 | |
But also of a system of mass incarceration, | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
often for nonviolent crimes | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
which had broken up families and blighted lives. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
I'd had a call from Detective Petropoulos. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:19 | |
Craig Crockett, the man who'd killed an alleged home invader, | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
was in custody at police headquarters and being questioned. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:25 | |
It had become clear that Crockett was not a felon | 0:46:27 | 0:46:30 | |
and his gun had been legally owned. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:32 | |
He basically copped to shooting four or five bullets into a man's back. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:46 | |
-As he's falling. -Sort of... | 0:46:46 | 0:46:48 | |
Either on the floor or falling towards the floor. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:51 | |
-Right? -Yeah. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:53 | |
-Incredible. -Good marksmanship. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:55 | |
-Yeah, it would be, wouldn't it? -You think that's... | 0:46:55 | 0:46:57 | |
I don't think that's what happened, entirely. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
Are you leaning one way or the other at this point? | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
My sense is that, | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
based on what he's told us and what we found at the scene, | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
that more than likely the prosecutor is not going to prosecute him. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
Even if it's a matter of, did he go a little too far? | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
What's too far when you are, | 0:47:16 | 0:47:18 | |
according to Craig, protecting your family? | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
Now, some of those that are burned up over there... | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
-Yeah. -..those are attempts to destroy evidence, right? | 0:47:23 | 0:47:26 | |
So one of those vehicles up there was used | 0:47:26 | 0:47:29 | |
in the commission of a homicide. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:31 | |
At the city car lot, I asked Petropoulos for his thoughts | 0:47:32 | 0:47:35 | |
on Milwaukee's gun crime. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:38 | |
It's my personal belief that people have to have a sense that | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
if they do something, there are going to be consequences. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:45 | |
And I think sometimes... | 0:47:46 | 0:47:47 | |
..if there isn't that sense, then... | 0:47:49 | 0:47:51 | |
..then they feel free to do what they want. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
Is poverty a part of the equation? | 0:47:56 | 0:47:58 | |
What about being poor... | 0:48:00 | 0:48:01 | |
..drives one to kill a child? | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
What is that? There's no rational reasoning to blame poverty. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:14 | |
I don't see it. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:17 | |
I don't get it. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:18 | |
What about values? | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
I think that's very much in play here. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:24 | |
If you are of a sense that... | 0:48:26 | 0:48:29 | |
..you have certain rules that you live by, | 0:48:31 | 0:48:34 | |
you generally aren't going to break them. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:36 | |
You know, certainly, we all have lapses and things, but... | 0:48:36 | 0:48:41 | |
if you don't have those strictures, those rules in your life, | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
then obviously it opens up all kinds of things, | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
possibilities of things that could hurt other people. | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
I think that's what it comes down to. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:52 | |
I think we have a very big problem with our values. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:56 | |
But you're asking me, and I don't make decisions on a large scale. | 0:48:57 | 0:49:01 | |
Just me and my family. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:03 | |
Whether the cause was a crisis of values, | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
or some larger failure of the system, | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
the result had been the death of 22-year-old Anthony Trice. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:18 | |
And for Craig Crockett and his family, an unspeakable trauma... | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
..and a future living with the very real fear of reprisals. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
Meanwhile police were looking for Trice's accomplice. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:39 | |
His name was Keron Smith, also 22. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
He was said to be driving a black Chevy Avalanche. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
My last night with the police, and unbelievably, | 0:49:48 | 0:49:51 | |
within minutes of coming on shift, there was a sighting of the car. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
-There it is! -The black Avalanche. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:59 | |
Holy fuck! | 0:49:59 | 0:50:00 | |
-Where? -Where is it? | 0:50:07 | 0:50:10 | |
-It's up there! It's up there on the house! -Oh, yeah. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:12 | |
CAR CRASHES, SIRENS BLARE | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
Hey! Hey! | 0:50:18 | 0:50:19 | |
5465. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:21 | |
Send medical, at least two ambulances. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
I'd arrived seconds after the pursued car had crashed | 0:50:24 | 0:50:26 | |
into the side of a house. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:28 | |
Was there somebody in there? | 0:50:28 | 0:50:30 | |
-The car's on fire! -Hey, back off the car, it's on fire! | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
-You guys back away! -Mike! Mike! Mike! | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
Mike, just come off! | 0:50:38 | 0:50:39 | |
An injured man was on the scene, and a dazed looking woman, | 0:50:40 | 0:50:43 | |
Keron Smith's passenger, who was later released without charge. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:48 | |
You need to answer this question real truthfully. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:50 | |
Other than you and him, was there anybody else in the vehicle? | 0:50:50 | 0:50:52 | |
No... | 0:50:52 | 0:50:53 | |
OK, OK. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:00 | |
The injured man turned out to be an innocent driver | 0:51:00 | 0:51:02 | |
of a separate car that had been hit. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:04 | |
Keron Smith had fled on foot. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:07 | |
The driver has dreads, white T-shirt, black pants. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:12 | |
Unknown where he is. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:14 | |
-Fuck! -He can't have gotten far. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:16 | |
He had to be fucked up, too. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:18 | |
All efforts were now focused on finding him. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
I doubt he made it far. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:22 | |
Then word came. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:28 | |
Ended up finding him, Sarge. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:30 | |
Wonderful job. All right, let's get him up. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:32 | |
-Where is he at? -LAUGHTER | 0:51:32 | 0:51:34 | |
Oh, my God! Amazing! Woo! | 0:51:38 | 0:51:40 | |
Did he have a weapon on him? | 0:51:40 | 0:51:41 | |
At the scene, no. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:43 | |
They haven't searched the vehicle or anything yet. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:45 | |
Preserve evidence and stuff. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:47 | |
What do we conclude about this? | 0:51:48 | 0:51:50 | |
I'm not too philosophical, really. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:52 | |
As long as I get the bad guy, that's all that matters. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:55 | |
As Smith was stretchered off, I caught up | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
with Inspector of Police, Stephen Basting. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:04 | |
Life is a video game for some. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
Just fleeing from the police and this out-of-control driving. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
Often this is the result, this is what'll happen. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:15 | |
Nationwide, homicides are trending down as well as up | 0:52:15 | 0:52:21 | |
-in specific localities, right? -Mm-hm. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:23 | |
So why do you think Milwaukee is bearing such a heavy load? | 0:52:23 | 0:52:27 | |
The lack of quality education, jobs. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
Let's start with that. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:32 | |
Idle hands are the devil's workshop. There's not enough for people to do. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:38 | |
You don't see it changing any time soon? | 0:52:38 | 0:52:40 | |
To be honest with you, I don't. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:42 | |
The community, I don't think, is to that point where everybody | 0:52:42 | 0:52:45 | |
has enough and stands up to make long-term changes. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:49 | |
I just... I see it from this level, every night. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:56 | |
It's very disappointing, disheartening. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
I'd come to see the police as being in an almost impossible position. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:15 | |
Working in an area suffering from decades of neglect, | 0:53:16 | 0:53:20 | |
they were lightning rods for failings far outside | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
their ability to fix. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:24 | |
Then, just days before I was due to leave Milwaukee, | 0:53:31 | 0:53:33 | |
there came a bizarre piece of news. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:36 | |
-REPORTER: -A Milwaukee police officer now sits on the other side | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
of the law, trading in a uniform for a jail suicide vest. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:43 | |
The officer whose shooting of Sylville Smith had sparked | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
days of unrest had been charged with two counts of sexual assault | 0:53:46 | 0:53:50 | |
on men he'd allegedly drugged. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:52 | |
It's extraordinarily disappointing and grave, | 0:53:53 | 0:53:56 | |
and we're treating it as such. | 0:53:56 | 0:53:57 | |
But with regard to the shooting of Sylville, | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
police still hadn't released their footage, | 0:54:02 | 0:54:04 | |
and there was no word on whether a case would be brought. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:06 | |
As for Antonio Ewing, aka Blizz Montana, the young rapper, | 0:54:15 | 0:54:19 | |
drug dealer and father who'd been killed on my first night, | 0:54:19 | 0:54:23 | |
the case had gone quiet. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:24 | |
With my time in the North Side nearly up, | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
I paid a visit to his cousin, Trish, and her son TJ. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:33 | |
How are you doing? | 0:54:35 | 0:54:37 | |
I'm... I'm OK. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:38 | |
We have kept in touch with the detective, | 0:54:40 | 0:54:42 | |
and every time it's the same thing. | 0:54:42 | 0:54:45 | |
"We don't have anybody yet. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:47 | |
"There's no new information, but keep calling." | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
Do they even have a suspect? | 0:54:50 | 0:54:51 | |
Is there someone they're trying to bring in, but they can't... | 0:54:51 | 0:54:55 | |
they can't catch him? | 0:54:55 | 0:54:57 | |
As far as I know, there is... | 0:54:57 | 0:54:59 | |
they don't have anyone that they're trying to bring in. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
It's been a lot of tips, a lot of phone calls to the police station, | 0:55:03 | 0:55:08 | |
and a lot of things that they were saying on social media. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:12 | |
I think people know what they saw, | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
but people are afraid to step forward, | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
and I can't fault them for that. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:18 | |
How optimistic are you that they will... | 0:55:19 | 0:55:21 | |
..solve the murder? | 0:55:23 | 0:55:25 | |
I'm not optimistic at all. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:27 | |
Not at all. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:29 | |
I believe that they're going to let people retaliate. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:33 | |
They'd rather let it be handled in the streets. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:35 | |
And if someone ends up getting arrested out of the deal, | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
then great. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
But otherwise... | 0:55:40 | 0:55:42 | |
..Antonio being dead, in my opinion, is just another black man down. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:48 | |
You know, it's black people killing black people, or whatever. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
"Let them kill each other." | 0:55:52 | 0:55:54 | |
-You think that's the attitude? -I do. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:56 | |
I think there is a sense that our people have lost sight of the | 0:55:56 | 0:56:00 | |
-value of life. -Absolutely. | 0:56:00 | 0:56:01 | |
And I think that permeates, um... | 0:56:01 | 0:56:05 | |
all different levels of society, and the community as well. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:09 | |
And the community. Absolutely. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:12 | |
Absolutely. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:13 | |
I don't think people have a great deal of respect for life any more. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:16 | |
Shh. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:19 | |
What do you remember about Antonio, TJ? | 0:56:22 | 0:56:25 | |
TJ, I'm not crying. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:26 | |
He was nice, he cared about me, and I will always love him. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:33 | |
My last night in Milwaukee, and another vigil, | 0:56:50 | 0:56:54 | |
this time for a cousin of Shonda's. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:56 | |
Everybody here knows that this was not deserved. | 0:56:57 | 0:57:00 | |
This was a woman that just had a baby. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:03 | |
This was a woman that ain't out here on the streets, | 0:57:03 | 0:57:05 | |
ain't out here thugging, ain't out here doing none of that. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:08 | |
You already crossed the barriers of being a coward when you continue to | 0:57:08 | 0:57:12 | |
hurt women, continue to hurt children out here. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:15 | |
I reflected on how many of those living and dying here | 0:57:15 | 0:57:19 | |
have been set up to fail. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:20 | |
Born into an area of underperforming schools, | 0:57:22 | 0:57:25 | |
few jobs and out-of-control crime. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:28 | |
Their killings, over often trivial matters, | 0:57:28 | 0:57:31 | |
could scarcely be more senseless. | 0:57:31 | 0:57:32 | |
Look at the word. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:41 | |
-B-U-G-S. -Bug. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:44 | |
But I'd also seen people, and especially mothers, | 0:57:44 | 0:57:47 | |
fighting to break the cycle... | 0:57:47 | 0:57:49 | |
..in a fractured community, attempting to rebuild hope. | 0:57:51 | 0:57:54 | |
-Frog. -OK. | 0:57:55 | 0:57:57 | |
Everything's in the same what? | 0:57:58 | 0:58:00 | |
-Pond, p-p-pond. -Pond. -Pond. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:03 | |
Yeah. All the animals in one pond. | 0:58:03 | 0:58:05 | |
The end. | 0:58:06 | 0:58:07 |