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Miriam Margolyes is on a mission to find out the state of the States. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:07 | |
She's two weeks into her journey. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
Erm... Oh, something is... | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
Somebody's stopping me. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
I'm being pursued. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
I'm apprehensive. I don't want to fail. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
Hey, you're going down a one-way. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
-Oh, my God! -Yeah, this is a one-way, going southbound. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
-You're travelling northbound. -Thank you. God, I'm... | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
-You got a licence and insurance? -Yes, I do. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
I think it's extremely important | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
that we should understand the Americans | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
that we don't know, and give them a chance. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
Thank you for stopping me. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
I'm very rough on Americans sometimes, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
and I tend, occasionally, to look down on them, | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
and that is shocking, and I should be smacked for that. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
-AMERICAN ACCENT: -If there's trouble, I'll find it! | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
Is your kind face going to get you through all sort of endeavours? | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
My only weapon is my mind and my beauty. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
So, when I turn my lights on and get in front of you to stop traffic, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
you swing this way and just go back south. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
And of the two of them, I think I'll go for the mind. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
SHE CHUCKLES | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
This programme contains some strong language | 0:01:16 | 0:01:21 | |
76-year-old actress Miriam Margolyes | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
is on an epic two-month road trip down the middle of Middle America. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
This is a journey that will take her | 0:01:27 | 0:01:28 | |
down through the American heartland, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
ending in the Deep South of New Orleans. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
A former US resident, | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
Miriam's going to discover the America she doesn't know, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
and meet the people whose voices and votes | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
are changing the shape of the country. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
Having sweet-talked her way out of trouble, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
Miriam's back on the road. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
Jeez! | 0:01:56 | 0:01:57 | |
That was really horrible. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:03 | |
We have an exceptional country, an exceptional way of life, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
but it's being tread on by sick, sick people. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:15 | |
Pride in our values should be taught by parents and teachers. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:20 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
American values are apple pie, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:28 | |
picket fences, and family, | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
of which family is the most important. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
Thank you. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:34 | |
The trouble is that a hell of a lot of families are not functional. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:39 | |
Over 200 miles into her road trip, | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
Miriam's heading towards a small summer camp | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
in the great outdoors of Southern Indiana. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
For generations, Americans have been sending their kids to summer camps, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
trying to instil in them the values | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
that will make them perfect members of society, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
and Miriam is going to join them. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
I don't really like the great outdoors. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
I like the great indoors. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
I loathe action and sports. Loathe them! | 0:03:08 | 0:03:13 | |
I sounded just like Maggie Smith then. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
No, but I really do. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:17 | |
I was always the last person to be chosen for a rounders team. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:23 | |
I say that with some pride. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
Miriam will be joining 150 children at Camp Carson | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
for an experience the camp claims will empower them | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
to take on life's opportunities as confident, caring, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
responsible and honest young people of strong character and faith. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:44 | |
-Welcome to camp. -Thank you very much. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
-You ready? -I'll never be ready. -LAUGHTER | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
-This is for you. -Thank you. -You're welcome. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
-What's your name? -Miriam. -OK, Miriam. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
-You are in the Kickapoo Cabin this week. -In which one? -Kickapoo. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
-Kickapoo? -Kickapoo Cabin. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
And we're off. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
So, how's it going so far? | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
Well, this is not my idea of fun, I have to tell you. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
CAMP COUNSELLOR LAUGHS | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
While the young campers have to share, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
Miriam has one of the traditional log cabins to herself. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
-This is your lovely home. -It smells of something. Phew! | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
It's just the, erm, outdoor scent. It's very natural. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
Oh! An outdoor scent? | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
What do we need that for, if we've got the outdoors? | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
Erm, it just makes you feel at home in nature. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
It smells like a sort of lavatory cleaner or something. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:39 | |
-SHE LAUGHS -I don't know if I smell it. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
You don't smell it? | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
Oh, it's gut-wrenching. Phew! | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
We can work on that. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
What am I supposed to do now? | 0:04:51 | 0:04:52 | |
There's a meeting down at Chapel, and that's when all the kids... | 0:04:52 | 0:04:57 | |
The first time that they get introduced to camp rules and stuff. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
-I probably should go to that. -Yeah. -So, shall we go back to the chapel? | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
-Yes, we probably should. -I never thought I'd say those words, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
-but perhaps we should... -We should go back to the chapel. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
..go back to the chapel. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
-ALL: -We can raise the roof! | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
ALL CHANT | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
Americans seem to pop out of the womb | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
singing and dancing as if they were in a Hollywood musical. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
CHANTING CONTINUES | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
You've got to appear to be completely confident, happy. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
You know, everything's got to be great. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
Who's excited to be here? | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
-ALL: -Yeah! | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
I see that it's a bonding exercise. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:48 | |
You're walking down the path and you see a 10 bill. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
It's just like the one you had last week, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
-so you pick it up and put it in your pocket. -ALL: -No! | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
They're making a society with its rules... | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
-First one was...? -Listen. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
-Second one was...? -Share. -Third one was...? | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
-Try your best. -Fourth one? | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
-Doing what's right. -Doing the right thing. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
..but the idea of enforced jollity is terrifying to me. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:14 | |
ALL CHEER | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
And it makes you understand why America is the way it is, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
if this is how they bring them up - | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
screaming and shouting and dancing about in a silly way. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
CRICKETS CHIRP | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
I can hear the song of the cricket, which is quite sweet. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
Better than kids, anyway! | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
Ooh, God, those kids. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
I don't know. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
There's something about hundreds of kids screaming | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
that drives me mental. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:49 | |
The idea of actually climbing and swimming and pottery... | 0:06:51 | 0:06:57 | |
Pottery - good God! | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
That's the bloody last thing I want to do! | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
But they're building little Americans, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
and I want to know what that process is. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
A week's stay at camp costs up to 700, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
but reductions are in place to try and get all American children | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
to share the experience. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
The camp runs a packed itinerary of sports and activities | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
specially designed to create well-formed US citizens. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
Please remove all hats and bandannas! | 0:07:41 | 0:07:46 | |
Each day begins at 7am in the same way. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
-ALL: -I pledge allegiance to the flag | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
of the United States of America, and to the... | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
This morning's Pledge of Allegiance was led by Bobby. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
Stampede! | 0:08:02 | 0:08:03 | |
He's been coming here for 14 years, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
first as a camper, now as a camp counsellor. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
The point of all this, is it to become a better American? | 0:08:11 | 0:08:16 | |
I think it's more or less becoming a better person. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
CHILDREN SCREAM | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
We always talk about taking how you are at camp | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
and bringing it into the real world. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
-GIRL SCREAMS -And what's your aim this week? | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
This is their one week of summer. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
This is their one week where they can escape all of reality | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
-and just live in this camp magic. -Camp magic? | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
-Yeah. -Wow, that's high stakes. -HE CHUCKLES | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
The longer you're here, the more you see it, I promise. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
After being here for so long and, like, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
seeing what my counsellors did for me, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:51 | |
and the changes that they made in my life - | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
that's what I want to be able to do for the kids. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
-ALL: -We are the dreamers! We are connected! | 0:08:55 | 0:09:00 | |
I grew up, you know, single mom, going through some struggles. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
And since I didn't have a father figure, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
Mark actually became a really big person in my life, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
and I kind of model myself to be like him, so... | 0:09:10 | 0:09:15 | |
-So, you feel moved and emotional about that? -Yes. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
I love the way that men aren't afraid to cry in America. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:24 | |
You know, in England, it's all about stiff upper lip, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
-and all that bollocks. -Oh, camp's a different place. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
-Camp - emotions run freely. -You can show your emotions. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
Camp's a cool place. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
Well... How can I say? | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
-I don't think camp's a cool place. -You don't think so? -No. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
-I think it's a remarkable place... -Yeah. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
..but I think it's slightly weird at the moment. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:47 | |
But I may refine my position. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
Well, I mean, keep a positive mental attitude. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
That's what it's all about. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
PMA - positive mental attitude. Bollocks! | 0:09:53 | 0:09:58 | |
I can't stand all that. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
-Are we going to hop on the wheel today? -Hop on the wheel? | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
Well, I'm going to have a try. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:05 | |
-This is the whole reason why it's called throwing the clay. -Ooh! | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
You've got to throw it right on there. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
You can go and start your wheel up. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
Just ever so slowly. We believe in you, girlie. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
You could go a LITTLE bit faster, if you wanted to. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
-Looking good. -Hey, you're pretty much... | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
Don't you dare be so positive! | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
-You've got to be positive. -You should see what I make. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
-It's way worse. -You'd be surprised what | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
one positive comment can actually make. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
One positive comment will get you a bop on the head. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:10:34 | 0:10:35 | |
What about two or three positive comments? | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
Well, now, I wouldn't like to say. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
Oh, look, it's like a... | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
-Well, I don't know what it's like. -LAUGHTER | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
It's a bit rude, isn't it? | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
You might want to smash that one down. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
Yeah! There you go! | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
Children are encouraged to choose activities | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
that will take them out of their comfort zone... | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
..including running their own camp radio show. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
Special campers are allowed on as guests. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
-Hi. -Hello, Miriam. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
So, what do you think is important when you're interviewing someone? | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
-The most important thing? -You should be polite. -Yes, be polite. So, don't ask any rude questions. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:24 | |
-Oh, do! -LAUGHTER | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
-Or you can. -I like rude questions. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
This is Camp Carson. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
So, we're interviewing Professor... | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
Oh, gosh! Are we practising? | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
Just keep going. It's fine. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
So, yep, let's get started. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
Have you ever met the Queen? | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
Have I ever met the Queen? | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
I have met the Queen. I didn't like her very much. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:56 | |
She told me to be quiet. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
She really did! | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
I admire the Queen. I think she's a remarkable woman. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
But I'm not sure I would like to spend much time with her. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
You know, sometimes, I realise I talk a lot of rubbish. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:12 | |
Do you have any advice for life? | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
Golly! Advice for life? | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
And saying that I don't like children - | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
well, I don't like naughty children. I don't like noisy children. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
I don't like children I can't communicate with. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
I think you have to take the chances that life offers, be optimistic, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:34 | |
be generous, and to have a place inside yourself | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
that you don't let anyone reach, that's just you. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
But those kids - those kids, I could talk to all day. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:47 | |
Maybe I can ask you, what does it mean to be an American? | 0:12:47 | 0:12:52 | |
It means, like, to be very loyal to your country | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
and share values and things like that. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:01 | |
What are American values? | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
We all share, like, beliefs towards | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
our God, and our flag, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
and just being loyal. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
And I guess that's what we call our values. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
That's a great answer. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:19 | |
When I started listening to them, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
instead of overlaying them with my mood, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
I realised that it could be a magic place, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
and it was, for some of them. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
What is your favourite thing about American summer camps? | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
The thing I like most is the inclusiveness. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
You take kids from everywhere - all different types - | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
and you make them into a group that gets on. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:47 | |
That's what the world has got to learn to do. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
At the end of a week's stay, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
children are expected to have become part of the camp family, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
confident in the values that will set them up for life outside. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
These five people right here | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
have been the closest to family, like, I could ask for. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:08 | |
I want to thank all of you for making this | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
one of the best couple of weeks of my life. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
I'd like to thank everyone for helping me with my character flaws. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:17 | |
I want to thank all my friends here | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
for just being here to be my friend, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
because, outside of camp, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:24 | |
I go through a lot of severe depression, | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
and a lot of you guys are helping me get better with that. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
So, thank you. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
Let's not leave that behind at camp. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
I want you to think about how we make it better on the outside. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
What are things that we've learned in here | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
that we can take to the outside world and make it a better place? | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
# Let there always be some love | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
# Some love to give away | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
# Let there always be some love | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
# Some love to give away... # | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
I have been on a journey. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
I have allowed myself to change position, to shift. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
I think camp can be transformative. It can change people. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:11 | |
# Let there always be a song... # | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
Some of these kids do come from very damaged homes, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
and some of them are damaged kids, but they've found a formula | 0:15:18 | 0:15:24 | |
to help them through those bad times. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:29 | |
So, camp, to my amazement, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
is a positive experience. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
Miriam's getting back on the road, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
continuing her journey through the middle of America. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
Despite over 14 million kids | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
being taught American values at camp every summer, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
something is going wrong when they leave. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
It's estimated that 10% of Americans | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
over the age of 12 are currently using drugs. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
We're becoming a drug-infested nation. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
Drugs are becoming cheaper than candy bars. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
I've never taken a drug. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
Never, ever, ever have I ever had a single drug. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:15 | |
It's pathetic, actually. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:16 | |
I just don't like anything | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
that takes you away from your own control. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
And the only time I think I've ever been drunk - | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
really drunk in my life - | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
was at Cambridge, where I was at university, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
and I went to a sherry party and I had 17. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
17 sherries, you know? Just one after the other. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
Well, I was ill for hours. Hours! | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
And after that, I never was drunk again. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
The thing was, I wasn't drunk, I was incapacitated. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
I was just one long vomit for three or four hours. It was dreadful! | 0:16:47 | 0:16:52 | |
Drug overdose is now the number-one cause of death | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
for Americans under 50. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
Miriam's leaving Indiana and heading 250 miles east into Ohio, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:05 | |
one of the leading states for overdose deaths in the country. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
I'm heading for a little town called Hamilton, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
and I think I'm going to meet a sheriff, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
-a sort of... -AMERICAN ACCENT: -..tough guy. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
Miriam has an appointment with one of America's | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
leading anti-drug sheriffs. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
What better person to have | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
as our next president of the United States | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
-than Donald Trump? -CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
He actually likes law enforcement! | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
Let me hear you! | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
-Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump! -CROWD CHANTS ALONG | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
Get it going! | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
During the last presidential campaign, | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
Sheriff Richard Jones served as Trump's warm-up man. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
Sheriffs are voted for by the people. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
12 years ago, prison officer Major Richard Jones | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
stood for election on the basis of his tough stance on law and order | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
and his traditional American values. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
He's been the sheriff of Butler County ever since. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
Hi. Good morning. I've got an appointment to see Sheriff Jones. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:12 | |
-Thank you. -Come on in. The boss is waiting on you. -Thank you so much. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
-I've been hearing a lot about you. How are you doing? Glad to meet you. -Thank you very much for seeing us. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
You cannot work in law enforcement in America without a moustache, | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
and that includes the women. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:27 | |
SHE CHUCKLES | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
This is one of my favourite pictures here. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
This is the president of the United States. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
I got a meeting, shake his hand, and I'm very proud of him. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
He supports the police. He supports the military. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
I like that. He stands for getting immigration fixed. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
I like that. He stands for building the wall. I like that. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
-Between America and Mexico? -Yeah, we already have... -Is that what you mean? | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
Yes. We already have some walls there already. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
Why do you like that? | 0:18:54 | 0:18:55 | |
Because we've got to keep these people | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
that are coming across in certain areas | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
from coming into our country illegally, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
and shipping their drugs in here. That's one of the reasons | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
he got elected - cos most Americans like the wall. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
My wife, she got to meet him, too. I said, "What do you think of him?" | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
She said, "He had little feet, but I'm impressed with him. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
-"I like him." -Well, I think the feet are the least of the problem. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:18 | |
The sheriff is the highest-ranking law-enforcement official | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
in the entire county. I have over 1,000 prisoners in my jail. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
-Right. -I have murderers, rapists. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
I have thieves. I have people that are drunk-driving. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
I have a little bit of everything. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
I've had three babies born in my jail in 18 months. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
They're all born addicted and they're born to mostly heroin moms. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
That's shocking, isn't it? | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
And if I have three babies born here in 18 months, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
in this jail, what do you think it is in the entire country? | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
Anybody that tells you we're winning this war on drugs, | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
they're telling you a lie. We're losing. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
And I love my country. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
Still, I believe, one of the best countries in the world to live. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
You may disagree with me on that. But it's messed up. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
What kind of a town is Hamilton? | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
It used to be a community that was all factories. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
And then, when the economy changed, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
all the factories moved out, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
all the jobs all left and went overseas. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
Now, this is a pretty tough neighbourhood now. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
Tell me about the people. What are they like? | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
They're basically like anywhere else in Middle America. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
What does Middle America mean? | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
Middle America means you love your mother, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
you like apple pie, you love your country. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
-Those are American values? -Those are American values. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
And what people want in Middle America, | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
they want their kids to go to good schools, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
they want to feel safe. It's like a fairy tale. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
But if it's only a fairy tale, then it's not real. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
-Oh... -But you believe in this. -Oh, I believe... | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
-This is real to you. -Yes, it's real to me. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
Are these values, that you hold so dear, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
-are they under threat now, do you think? -Yes. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
Used to the nuclear family - one spouse went to work, | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
one stayed home and taught your kids the morals and raised your children. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
So, you want things to go back to what they were? | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
It'd be nice, but it's not going to happen. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
-I don't think it's going to happen. -No, it's not going to happen. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
-We'll go to the right now. -But did you feel safe then? -Yes. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
When you feel safe when you're a kid, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
and you have nurturing parents, you do feel safe. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
-So, you think family values... -Oh, we've lost... -..have collapsed? | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
Have collapsed in America. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
America locks up more people than any other country in the world - | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
almost 2.5 million and rising. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
During his reign, Sheriff Jones has overseen | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
a trebling of his jail's population. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
Nearly three-quarters are in for drug-related offences. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
He's agreed to take Miriam inside. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
When we go to the first set of doors, | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
everybody has to get inside that sallyport. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
-Then I have to take my gun off... -Yeah, before we can go through the next door. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
..and put it in a locked box cos we don't allow the guns back inside. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
We're all being watched by cameras. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
So, this is our control room here. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
Nobody can get in or out without that officer right there | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
hitting the button and letting you go in and out. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
He controls everything from here. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
Now, when we go inside, Miriam, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
we're going to step out into the middle. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
It's built like a submarine so it doesn't flood out, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
so we can lock the doors off, and they'll shut one at a time. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
-What is that area there? -That's the common area, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
where they come and they eat their meals, where they can watch TV. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
TVs are the biggest baby-sitter in the country. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
Keeps them from fighting, makes them happy and... | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
-Stops them thinking? -Yes. -Yeah. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
Prisoners' uniforms are colour-coded, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
so guards are quickly aware of an inmate's potential threat. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
Red is reserved for violent criminals. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
Green stripes are worn by the most low-risk. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
-How you doing, ladies? -BOTH: -Good. How are you? | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
-Are you guys doing OK today? -Wonderful. -Come on up, Miriam. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
-Hi. Good morning. -You guys know who she is? -You do look really familiar. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
-I do? -BOTH: -Yes. -Harry Potter movie. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
-She's the professor in Harry Potter. -I'm an actress. I play... | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
-Nuh-uh! -..Professor Sprout. -Did you ever watch Harry Potter? | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
-BOTH: -Yeah! -ALL LAUGH | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
-I'm 76. -Oh, my God! -How old are you? -I'm 30. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
-May I ask you how old you are? -I'm 27. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
-And is this the first time you've been in prison? -No. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
-Well, that's bad! -I didn't know we were getting yelled at. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
-LAUGHTER -Not yelled, but it just upsets me. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:21 | |
It upsets me, too. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
This is the 17th time I've been here. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
-17th? That must be drugs. -Yes. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:30 | |
What's it like in the prison? Is it hell, or are you managing? | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
-You can't ask me. I've been here a million times. -It's not amazing, but... | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
I'm institutionalised, for sure, so... | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
I've been locked up pretty much my whole adult life, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
-off and on. -That is so awful. -SHERIFF: -Do you guys have kids? | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
-I got one. -Six. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
-SHERIFF: -Who's watching them right now? -Six?! | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
My family. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:50 | |
-SHERIFF: -Your family? Your parents? -Are you Catholic? -My parents aren't... -No! | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
No. Why would I be Catholic if I had six kids? | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
-Well, Catholics have lots of children, don't they? -Oh, no. It's Protestant. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
Forgive me if I seem, you know, cursory about it. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:04 | |
I actually do care. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:05 | |
You're young. You have your lives to lead. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:10 | |
She's going to make me cry. You've got to talk to her now. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
-I can't. -SHE LAUGHS | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
Boss, we're going to need some tissues. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
-That was so... -SHERIFF: -That lady, it's probably the first time... | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
-..emotional for me. -..she's probably cried in her whole life. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
-Don't you hurt inside when you see that? -I can't hurt. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
I would not sleep at night. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
I'm so moved and angered by listening to her. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:42 | |
And I feel that this is part of what's wrong with America, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:47 | |
that people - decent people like that - | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
are just trapped in their own addiction. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
Well, they are trapped, and we've got no cures. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
I didn't know I was going to be so upset. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
He has a sense of a society in crisis, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:03 | |
and he does seem to see very much an us-and-them division. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:09 | |
He wants to keep those people - them - | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
away from the good people - his people. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
-Morning. -Good morning. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
The following morning, Miriam is heading back | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
to the women's half of the jail. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
The sheriff is allowing her to work with the inmates. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
-Thank you very much. -You're very welcome. -Bye-bye. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
Around one in 20 Americans will spend time in prison | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
during their lifetime. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
Miriam wants to know if the people | 0:25:41 | 0:25:42 | |
who've seemingly betrayed the nation's values | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
can ever be considered good US citizens again. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
Hi. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
-Boy, that smells good. -Yeah. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
With prisoners woken at 5am, lunch is served at 11. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
My grandfather was a poverty-stricken peddler, | 0:26:03 | 0:26:08 | |
an immigrant from Poland... | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
-Do you know what the menu is today? -No, we don't. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
-We never know. -You never know? | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
..and he committed fraud... | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
Enjoy your meal. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:18 | |
..and he was sent to prison for seven years' hard labour in 1877. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:25 | |
Thank you so much. I'm such a fan. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
I've always felt very sympathetic towards criminals, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
perhaps because of my great-grandfather. I don't know. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
-Thank you, Miriam. -Thank you. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:37 | |
But I've always felt that if I just teetered off my morality, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:42 | |
I could easily fall into the pit of hell. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
-What's your name? -My name's Courtney. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
-Courtney? -Yes. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:49 | |
-You're in an orange jumper. -Yes. -Does that mean that you're scary? | 0:26:49 | 0:26:56 | |
I think so, but I'm not scary. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
It's because I had a violent charge before in the past. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
It was a gun charge. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
I'm in here now on drug charges. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
But we live in a really small town. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
We live in the country, in the middle of the woods, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
and everybody there's on drugs. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
What is your sentence? How long are you going to be here for? | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
I don't know how long. Right now, I'm facing 20 years. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:25 | |
-That's an incredibly long sentence. -Yes, it is. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:30 | |
Goodness! Are you married? Do you have children? | 0:27:30 | 0:27:34 | |
I have children. I'm not married. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
Do you have a dream? | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
I want to get out and be with my daughter, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
and I want to own my own tree business. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
-You're a tree surgeon? -Yes. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
Thank you. Have you got brothers and sisters that are in trouble? | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
My whole family is in this jail. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
-Well, you've got to stay away from them. -Yeah. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
-She really does. -There's 16 of us right now in this jail. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
-My family is really bad people. -You must forget about them. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
-Yeah. -Fuck 'em! -Yeah, definitely fuck them. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:11 | |
They got me in a world of trouble. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
Do you think that American values would help you at all? | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
-I mean, family, obviously not... -Yeah. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
-..because one of the values in America is family, isn't it? -If you have a good family... | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
Yeah, people that had, like, a really bad childhood... | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
I was molested and raped my whole life. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:32 | |
So, I think drugs was how I coped with life. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
Drugs, I think, damaged America incomparably, | 0:28:37 | 0:28:43 | |
and it is extremely painful to see its effects. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:50 | |
Hello. I'm today's porter. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
To keep control, only half the prisoners | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
are allowed out at any one time. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
-There are two cups of water here. -It means, every day, | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
-half the prisoners have to eat in their cells. -Thank you. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
Prisoners can spend money they've been sent from the outside | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
on a limited number of luxury treats. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
-What lunch? -During lunchtime, these are often shared communally. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
We're making what's called a break. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
-Yeah. -And these are the ingredients. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
So, you have to smash everything up. Then, you dump it all in together. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:29 | |
I'm not sure these things are all good for you. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
-What's this? -That's chicken. Chicken breast. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
Sometimes, you put a variation on the ingredients | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
just to have it a little different sometimes. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
The basis of it is the soups. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
And then you put that 180-degree water in it - | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
boiling water - and you cook it, so everything melts together. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
-It's very strange. -It is. -Yeah, I thought that, too. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
-It's actually really, really good. -But it's really good. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
-Better than them trays. -Yeah, the trays were not that great. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
Yeah. So, we put the hot water in. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
I hate to think of the calorific value of this. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
You don't want to think about that in here. This is your comfort food. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:06 | |
I guess it is. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
-You know what? -I don't want to be insulting, you know... | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
-I'm going to tell you... -..but I don't feel appetised by this. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
Listen, I felt exactly like that the very first time. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
You will be pleasantly surprised. That's the finished product. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
-Thank you, ma'am. -You're very welcome. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
It's not bad. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
See? Something that looks like that actually tastes really good, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
-doesn't it? -We say it's slappin'. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
-AMERICAN ACCENT: -It's slappin'! -LAUGHTER | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
There you go. There you go. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
-Hi, guys. -Hello. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
Well, I've always thought about myself | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
that I will be fine in an old people's home | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
because there'll be people there, and I will make friends with them. | 0:30:55 | 0:31:00 | |
I would be the worst person to share a cell with. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
-Why? -Because I fart. -We all fart! | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
And I think a jail is much the same. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
We love you so much, and we just watched all your movies. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
I will be fine there, as long as I have friends. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
Come on, Homeland Security. We need to go like this. OK. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
# We love the trays Got to get them trays made | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
Got to get them trays made Got to get them trays made | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
# I said her name is Miriam She's on the mic | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
# She's up in Butler County Jail in the daylight... # | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
There is, without doubt, a parallel | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
between the society of a summer camp and the society of a jail. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:42 | |
What they are actually both doing is recreating another family. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:48 | |
CHEERING | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
SPEECH DROWNED OUT BY CHEERING | 0:31:53 | 0:31:58 | |
You were brilliant. That's brilliant. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Thank you very much. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:06 | |
Most inmates will spend the rest of the day locked back in their cells. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
But good behaviour can earn some, like Kara and April, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
the right to stay out working. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
They're in here, working themselves to death. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
Hi, guys. You ready for me? | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
-For sure. -OK. So, what gives? -"What gives!" | 0:32:23 | 0:32:27 | |
We've got to go in here and wipe everything down. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
-This is a cell? -Yeah. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
-I'm not even sure... Does this come off? -Yeah, spray. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
-Oh, other way. -Oh, other way. Other way. -Towards the table. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
-Isn't that a sign of what an absolute twot I am? -There you go! | 0:32:39 | 0:32:46 | |
-Do you two always work together? -BOTH: -Yes. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
-So, you're kind of buddies and...? -Besties. -Besties. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
-Besties? -We live in the same cell. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
-Oh, you're bunkies? -Yeah. -We're bunkies and we work together. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
I heard about that. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:00 | |
-AMERICAN ACCENT: -Straight at the gate and gay for the stay? | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
-Gay for the stay! -For sure, yes. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
-Is that right? -Holy shit! -Yes. Yes. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
So, some people are not lesbians, | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
but they become lesbians just while they're in prison? | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
-All they want is commissary, or some attention, or... -Both. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:19 | |
-Do you know when your exit date is? -I'm out in 13 days. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:24 | |
Do you feel that society has written you off? | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
Yes, most definitely. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:27 | |
People look at us and they don't see any kind of future. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:33 | |
-What can be done to give you more inner strength? -Give us a chance. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
Quit tearing us down when we're trying our hardest. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
Just because we're heroin addicts, we're still daughters, | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
-we're still mothers, we're still human beings. -Those girls will never leave me. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:46 | |
Those... That conversation. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
I want, more than anything... | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
Ask her. She makes fun of me for it. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
-But I just... -We're in love with the idea of being in love. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
-Of real love. But the thing is... -With each other, do you mean? | 0:33:55 | 0:34:00 | |
-BOTH: -No! -No. No. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
With a guy. You know, these days, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
-it's hard to find. -You want a proper, stable relationship? | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
-Right. -So bad! | 0:34:07 | 0:34:08 | |
I would probably lay my life down | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
if I could just have a man look at me like, "You are worth it, | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
-"and I want to show you that you're worth it." -Right. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
Because every man in my whole life has shown me nothing but | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
that you're not worth it, you're worth nothing. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
I've never had to come face-to-face | 0:34:22 | 0:34:27 | |
with the agony, the misery, the hopelessness of their position. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:34 | |
Cos I've had my life. I'm old now. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
The light is not at the end of the tunnel for me. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
It's just the tunnel. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
But it doesn't have to be the tunnel for you. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:44 | |
There is light. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
I'm not going to say it's Jesus, cos I don't believe in Jesus, | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
but I can believe in you. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
-Can I hug you? -Yes. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
Come. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:58 | |
Remember, what I said, it was said with love. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
You made me feel good about myself, and I don't do that much. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
Well, good! Good. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
You know what? You've made me feel good about myself. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:15 | |
-Aw! -So, that's very important. -Yeah. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:20 | |
Oh, that's the main one. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
We had a real communication, and that is extraordinary. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:27 | |
I was deeply moved by it. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
Now we're going to go down to the booking area. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
A young lady has just been released from jail. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
-Leslie, this is Miriam. -Hi. -Hi. How are you? | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
-I'm good. How are you? -I believe you're on your way out. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
-Yes, I am. -That's great. -I know. Thank you. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
Prison should be a place that people only go to once. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
-How old are you? -I'm 20 years old. I'll be 21 September 17th. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
-Oh, darling, you're a child. You're a baby. -Mm-hm. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
If people keep coming back, | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
something is wrong, something isn't working. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
-How many times have you been in prison? -This is my second time. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:02 | |
-Well, twice is enough, isn't it? -Yes, ma'am. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
And it's painfully clear in America that that is the case. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
They keep coming back. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
Despite the US government spending around 80 billion | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
on jails every year, | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
over three-quarters of inmates reoffend | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
within five years of release. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
If you come back here, I will be so pissed off, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
because I'm the one that walked you out. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
-Well... -So, I don't want you to come back. -I know. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
And, you know, honestly, this time, I just have a feeling inside | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
that I'm going to do right, because I want to. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
And I know a lot of people say that. I messed up once before. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
-This time, I'm going to do good, and I know I am. -Try. Really try. -I'm going to. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:43 | |
You push the door, and I'm coming right out with you. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
-Oh, it's not open. -Miriam, would you like to give her these? -I will. -That's her personal property. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:50 | |
-When it clicks, you push, OK? -OK. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
-That's my family right there. -Hey! She's out! | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
I'm not a mother... | 0:36:57 | 0:36:58 | |
Isn't that wonderful? | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
..but it doesn't mean that I don't care about people. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
-You'll make it. -Thank you. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
-Don't come back. -I won't. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
-Don't let her. -I won't. She's strong. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
-Don't let her come back. -OK. -OK? Bye-bye. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
And when I saw that girl being released... | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
..I cried. I couldn't help it, because I wanted, with all my heart, | 0:37:19 | 0:37:24 | |
-that she wouldn't come back. -We see them leave every day, | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
-and all we can do is pray that they don't come back. -Yeah. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
Oh, I hope she makes it. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
Don't come back! | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
And I don't know what happened. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
-We'll get you a tissue. -No, it's OK. I've got one. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
-AMERICAN ACCENT: -On this job, I carry 'em with me. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
-I tell you, not the first time. -She's got some. She's got some. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
Before she continues south, | 0:37:57 | 0:37:58 | |
Miriam's dropping in to see the sheriff and his family. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
-Hi! -Just ignore the dog. -I love dogs. -Oh, good. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:07 | |
-But I'm not going to ignore you. -It's very pleasant to meet you. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
-Please have some flowers. -Oh, they're beautiful. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
They do smell nice, as well. And so do I. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
OK! Pleasure to meet you. I'm Vicky. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
-This is my daughter, Amanda. -Oh, hi! -I'm Amanda. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
-I'm so pleased to meet you. Hello. -Pleased to meet you. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
-Now, her husband's a police officer, also. -Yes. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
-Oh, darling, you've gone to such trouble. -VICKY: -I wanted to. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
You're a home queen, aren't you? | 0:38:30 | 0:38:34 | |
I'd like to think of it as a domestic goddess. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
That's it! That's what I meant. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
I'm not. I'm hopeless. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
Heavenly Father, we come to you today so thankful | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
and so grateful for all the people that are in our home today. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
And, God, we are so thankful to you for our blessings. Amen. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
-OTHERS: -Amen. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:49 | |
I want to hear a bit about you. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
-What would you like to know? -Everything! | 0:38:51 | 0:38:55 | |
Well, I'm from here, in Ohio. He and I met in high school. | 0:38:55 | 0:39:00 | |
My first job, I was a teacher's aide, | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
but when I started to have kids, | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
I quit my job to stay home and raise them. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
To me, there's nothing better, | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
if you're having something going on and you're sad or whatever, | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
for your mom to cook you something. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
-You know, something of your favourite. -That's sort of American values, isn't it? | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
Family and apple pie? | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
Oh, yeah. I make a real good apple pie, too! | 0:39:22 | 0:39:27 | |
So, what do you think of the big guy down there at the end of the table? | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
Well, I know that he is a good man. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
I'm just not totally convinced that shutting people up | 0:39:35 | 0:39:40 | |
who have committed offences | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
that come because they are drug addicts... | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
I don't think it's a good idea. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
But what would you do? | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
That's the problem. I don't know. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:55 | |
-But it is a disease. -I disagree with that. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
Then you are wrong, ma'am, because it is a disease. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:03 | |
-If you can't... -It is something that takes over your body like cancer, | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
-and it's terrifying. -Well, let's say that | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
you're right and it is a disease. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
They still make that choice to go do drugs, but... | 0:40:12 | 0:40:17 | |
The first one, you're right. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
-The first time, it is a choice. -You are choosing it. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
-You are playing Russian roulette with your life. -With your life. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
-And that's what I don't understand. -We are educated enough | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
in this country to know that. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
-Well... -There is no excuse to go out and say, | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
"I think I want to try heroin. I've never done it." | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
But what happens is, they'll go to jail, | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
and then they're going right back to where | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
they got the drugs to start with cos they don't have anywhere else to go. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
-There's no family. -So, is there any sense in putting them in jail in the first place? -Yes. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
-I don't want them coming to my house and stealing my stuff. -No, and I... | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
-Period. I work too hard for my stuff. -I'd rather they be locked up in jail. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
I don't want them driving down the street with my daughter... | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
But isn't there some other kind of...? | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
Well, you could shoot 'em, | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
-but that's not socially acceptable, either. -Oh, no, I don't mean that. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
I just feel that America is failing the people who are failing America, | 0:41:05 | 0:41:10 | |
and I don't know who you blame first. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
-I don't know that... -And America's a place where you like to blame. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
-We enjoyed your company. You were very interesting. -Thank you very much. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
-It was lovely. -And I really mean it. Bye-bye. -Bye-bye, darling. Yeah. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
America is not a forgiving society. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
If you transgress the rules of the game, the walls close in. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:30 | |
The door is locked. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
First of all, it's the negation of Christianity. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
A lot of the people I met were very strong-believing Christians, | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
but not inclusive. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
Very excluding. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:42 | |
And as somebody myself... | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
A fat old Jew, you know? | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
..I know what it is to be excluded, and it's...it's wrong. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:55 | |
In recent months, President Trump | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
hasn't exactly been preaching forgiveness. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
-REPORTER: -For months now, | 0:42:02 | 0:42:03 | |
the leaders of North Korea and the United States | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
have been goading each other in a war of words | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
over the unthinkable - the possibility of a nuclear war. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:17 | |
They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:24 | |
Miriam's heading into the Smoky Mountains of Tennessee. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
Here, hundreds of Americans have become so worried about the future, | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
they're readying themselves for disaster. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
They're called preppers. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
I think they could be anxious about the possibility of world war, | 0:42:39 | 0:42:45 | |
and atomic war, or something like that, | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
given that North Korea is obviously off its chops. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:52 | |
I think they're probably worried | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
about the sudden collapse of the economy, | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
looting and rioting as a result. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:01 | |
Maybe Trump has exacerbated fears a little. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
Well, they'd probably feel resentful | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
if people would regard them as nutters | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
because the very act of preparation means that you're thinking ahead. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 | |
As my mother would say, "Forward planning is all." | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
On the outskirts of a small town called Cosby, | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
Carey and Sonya will provide you with everything you need | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
to survive in the mountains for the next 25 years. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:30 | |
-Howdy. -Hello. -Come right this way, ma'am. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:34 | |
-Hello. -Hey. Good morning. -Good morning. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
Welcome to Tennessee Readiness. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:39 | |
-Do you want to look around? -I'd love to. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:42 | |
Probably our most popular things are our knives. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
-So, what would knives be for? -Um, protection, | 0:43:44 | 0:43:48 | |
for hunting, or just anything general. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
-My name's Carey. -Miriam. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:52 | |
-Nice to meet you, ma'am. -Call me Miriam. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
-Yes, ma'am. -Ma'am is too scary. -Really? -Yeah! | 0:43:55 | 0:43:59 | |
-LAUGHTER -Well, welcome to the South. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 | |
-Thank you. -Our knives are for bush crafting. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
So, we feel like any knife that you take out into the woods, | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
you should be able to cut down a tree, | 0:44:08 | 0:44:10 | |
you should be able to skin a rabbit. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:12 | |
-Skin a rabbit? -With one knife. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:14 | |
-And where would you carry that? -It snaps right on your belt. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:17 | |
-Even on your pocket. -It's kind of like the old-fashioned sword, | 0:44:17 | 0:44:21 | |
-isn't it? -Yes, ma'am. -The long one that we have, yeah. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:24 | |
-Not... -You've got a sword, do you? -No, I don't. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
-THEY LAUGH -I'll tell you the truth, I don't. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
-PRODUCER: -How practical are you? -I am utterly impractical. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:35 | |
I cannot change a plug, sharpen a pencil. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:38 | |
There's nothing I can do. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
-What is that? -If I want to go out into the woods and hide, | 0:44:41 | 0:44:45 | |
-it will cover me. -Oh, yes. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
How long would you survive out in the woods? | 0:44:47 | 0:44:50 | |
I would survive until a car came by and take me into civilisation. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:55 | |
This is the kind of sling that David used to kill Goliath. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:58 | |
You just put your rock right in there, | 0:44:58 | 0:45:00 | |
swing it around twice, and then you let the heavy side go. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:04 | |
-Darling, I'd die. -SHE CHUCKLES | 0:45:04 | 0:45:07 | |
That simple. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
I'm not really the hunting, shooting, fishing type. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:15 | |
-You know? -It's called fun. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:17 | |
Would you like to try some freeze-dried fruit, ma'am? | 0:45:17 | 0:45:19 | |
-It's mangoes. -That's fine. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
-Yes, ma'am. -Thank you. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
We put it in a mylar bag like this with an oxygen absorber | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
-and it'll last 25 years. -Wow. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:31 | |
A prepper doesn't want to rely on anybody. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:34 | |
We want you to know how to make a shelter | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
if something happened to your house, if the war came, if there were... | 0:45:36 | 0:45:41 | |
-If the war came? -I mean, Russia's doing their thing. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:45 | |
North Korea, I mean, they're threatening us every day. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
It's just being prepared and not being afraid | 0:45:48 | 0:45:52 | |
because you know you already have what you need. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:55 | |
-It's in our DNA to be prepared. We've been... -You think about it. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:59 | |
We've been prepared since we came here to America. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:02 | |
We knew there was nobody coming to save us. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
Our forefathers fought for this land and earned it, | 0:46:05 | 0:46:10 | |
and we'll do everything we can to keep it. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:14 | |
We're Americans. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:16 | |
Is being American being individualistic? | 0:46:16 | 0:46:19 | |
-Yes. -I think so, yeah. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:21 | |
-It is about the individual. -It's not about the group? | 0:46:21 | 0:46:24 | |
-It's never about the collective. -No, never. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
-It's always about the individual. -And what happens to the people | 0:46:26 | 0:46:29 | |
-who don't follow the way that you follow? -We can't answer for everybody else. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
Then you can go to other places and look how they are. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:36 | |
Go to Chicago, go to LA, go to New Orleans, go to Memphis. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:42 | |
People are fighting and killing each other every day. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:44 | |
-We're not doing that out here. -You're not? -BOTH: -No! | 0:46:44 | 0:46:49 | |
I didn't know anything about the preppers. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:53 | |
I'd never heard of the idea. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:55 | |
In one way, it's nuts. | 0:46:56 | 0:46:59 | |
In another way, it might not be, because they have a president | 0:46:59 | 0:47:03 | |
who can put his finger on the button that's going to explode the world. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:10 | |
For over 30 years, preppers have been building a small community | 0:47:10 | 0:47:14 | |
in the hills based on their perception | 0:47:14 | 0:47:16 | |
of traditional American values. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:18 | |
Carey and Sonya have sent Miriam to stay with Heidi. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:23 | |
-Hello. -Hi, there! | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
Sales rep Heidi has been preparing for the end of the world since 1987. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:30 | |
-I'm Miriam. -I'm Heidi. Nice to meet you. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
Lovely to meet you. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:35 | |
-Please come in. -Thank you very much. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:37 | |
I have been a prepper since the '80s. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:40 | |
When I heard George Bush Sr give a speech | 0:47:40 | 0:47:43 | |
and use the words "new world order", | 0:47:43 | 0:47:46 | |
I got up out of my chair and said, "Oh, my God." | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
From that moment on, I became a prepper. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:52 | |
I always had a backpack in my car prepared for who knows what. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:56 | |
I don't even know. I just know I had the mentality of it. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
I have buckets of things that are buried in different places | 0:47:59 | 0:48:03 | |
that are for emergencies. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
Obviously, we would put some food in here. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:08 | |
This is what's called an MRE. The military... | 0:48:08 | 0:48:11 | |
Meals, Ready-to-Eat. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:13 | |
Now, you have other things that you can put away. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:15 | |
This is not just a head net for bugs. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:18 | |
I could get little fish with these. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:20 | |
-I mean, there's many things you can do with that. -Let me try that on. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:24 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:48:26 | 0:48:28 | |
All right, now the bugs will stay away. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:30 | |
So, if something is only used for one thing, it's taking up space. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:34 | |
To me, the most important thing that you need is this right here, | 0:48:34 | 0:48:39 | |
which is a water filter. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:40 | |
I remember, in Katrina, there was plenty of water, | 0:48:40 | 0:48:43 | |
but it was not drinkable. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:45 | |
Is there anything else you can think of we might want? | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
-A knife. -How smart are you? -AMERICAN ACCENT: -Pretty damn smart! | 0:48:48 | 0:48:52 | |
I'm telling you are learning. You're a quick study. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:55 | |
-Excellent. Well, shall I put the lid on it? -And then we just screw the lid on. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:59 | |
-And you keep some of these things somewhere? -Yes. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
-And where have you put them? -Not in the house. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
-Oh. -I have them in a safe place. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:08 | |
-That you alone know? -Yes. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:10 | |
I wonder if, really, in their secret heart, | 0:49:10 | 0:49:16 | |
they hope it's going to happen. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:18 | |
They hope that the banking system is going to fail. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:21 | |
We have well water. This, up here, is our well house up there. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:25 | |
-Oh, I like that. -That way, we don't have to have city water, | 0:49:25 | 0:49:29 | |
which is nasty. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:31 | |
They're spending their lives waiting and preparing in case. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:37 | |
Now, you're not going straight into the river, are you? | 0:49:37 | 0:49:39 | |
Of course. I'm going straight into it. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:41 | |
-SHE LAUGHS -Take a dip! | 0:49:41 | 0:49:44 | |
It's like me when I go on holiday - | 0:49:44 | 0:49:46 | |
I take, you know, too many pairs of knickers in case. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:50 | |
Waste of time. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:53 | |
It seems to me very much an individualistic thing, you know. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:58 | |
You look after you, and I look after me. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:00 | |
And in a lot of cases, that's true. A lot of people are lone wolves. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:04 | |
And that, I don't like. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:06 | |
-I believe in the power of community and togetherness. -That's great. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:10 | |
So, you assume that people are full of goodness? | 0:50:10 | 0:50:13 | |
Well, I know that not everybody is. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:15 | |
-That, I know. -Well, when shit hits the fan, | 0:50:15 | 0:50:17 | |
you're going to find out what people are really made of. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:20 | |
America remains the most heavily-armed country in the world. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:24 | |
The number of privately-owned firearms | 0:50:24 | 0:50:26 | |
is over 400 million and rising. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:28 | |
I brought out some of the weaponry that I have. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:32 | |
What you want is something you can point and shoot, | 0:50:33 | 0:50:37 | |
and a revolver is one of those things. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:41 | |
-It's empty? -It is now. | 0:50:41 | 0:50:42 | |
This is my concealed weapon, which I carry... | 0:50:42 | 0:50:46 | |
As you see, a little clip can go on the side, | 0:50:46 | 0:50:48 | |
if I'm in public in a crowded area. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:50 | |
You couldn't get that out in a hurry, could you? | 0:50:50 | 0:50:52 | |
-Because it's all in a pouch. -Oh, it comes out fast. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:55 | |
And this is my baby. I love this gun. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:58 | |
And it's a Ruger. It looks intimidating. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
And it's only a .22, so it's the smallest bullet of them all. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:05 | |
But it could still kill you, couldn't it? | 0:51:05 | 0:51:07 | |
An assassin's gun is a .22. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:09 | |
It's not what bullet you use. It's the accuracy of it. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:13 | |
So, if it's between your eyes, a .22 is sufficient. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:16 | |
But a .22, if somebody is drugged up, | 0:51:16 | 0:51:19 | |
it's not going to stop them unless you hit them in the head. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:21 | |
It's macabre to be in this little, very sweet, rather feminine room | 0:51:21 | 0:51:26 | |
and have three guns that kill people on your dining-room table. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:32 | |
But to think of using it on a human being is awful. | 0:51:32 | 0:51:35 | |
I hope, never in my life, will I ever, ever have to do that. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:39 | |
-But I am prepared. -It's heavy. -It is heavy. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:43 | |
If I thought someone was trying to kill me, | 0:51:43 | 0:51:45 | |
I would shoot them. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:47 | |
-Do you think you're capable? -I'm capable of all the bad things. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:53 | |
And shooting a human being and killing them - | 0:51:53 | 0:51:57 | |
I am certainly capable of doing that. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
That's why I must never have a gun. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:02 | |
Now, this is a bed behind here. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:09 | |
-Voila! -Doesn't that look fantastic? -Yes. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:13 | |
-Thank you very much. -I hope you sleep well. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
There's no way I won't. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:18 | |
This is just to prove that I do brush my hair, | 0:52:20 | 0:52:26 | |
because some people don't think I do, which is very unkind. | 0:52:26 | 0:52:31 | |
It's not about being glamorous, is it, Miriam? | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
It has never been about being glamorous, | 0:52:34 | 0:52:37 | |
-but kind of you to point that out. -SHE LAUGHS | 0:52:37 | 0:52:42 | |
I did wear these socks yesterday, but that's all right. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:46 | |
-Oh, toasties! This is great. -Yeah. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:52 | |
Your attitude towards preparedness is, | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
-"I'm prepared as far as I can be..." -Yes. | 0:52:55 | 0:52:58 | |
-"..for most eventualities?" -Yes. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:02 | |
It's my responsibility to take care of me, not the government's. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:07 | |
And if it doesn't happen, so what? But what if it does? | 0:53:07 | 0:53:11 | |
-Are you prepared? -I wouldn't last five minutes, | 0:53:13 | 0:53:17 | |
and, you know, I haven't got a prepared attitude. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:22 | |
I've got some money in the bank and 12 rolls of loo paper at home, | 0:53:22 | 0:53:28 | |
-and that... -That's not even enough! | 0:53:28 | 0:53:30 | |
..that's the extent of my preparedness. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:35 | |
I have a slightly fatalistic attitude | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
-that I'll just either get by or I'll die. -Yeah. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:40 | |
Despite the preppers' disillusionment with the government, | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
they haven't turned their back on politics completely. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
In the last election, they were staunch advocates of Trump. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:52 | |
Carey from the readiness store has invited Miriam to join her | 0:53:52 | 0:53:56 | |
at their community barbecue. | 0:53:56 | 0:53:58 | |
Hey! How are you? | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
Carey, how lovely to see you in this beautiful place. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:05 | |
-Thank you, ma'am. -Oh, it's heaven! | 0:54:05 | 0:54:09 | |
What's on your menu tonight? | 0:54:09 | 0:54:11 | |
Hamburgers, hot dogs, and we have bear burgers. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:14 | |
-I'm not eating bear. That's not... -Try it! -No. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:18 | |
-Try it while you have a chance. -No, Jews don't eat bear. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:21 | |
In America, we see things different than a lot of people do. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
In what way? Tell me. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:28 | |
We believe that God gave us rights | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
and we wrote a constitution that keeps the government | 0:54:30 | 0:54:33 | |
from taking the rights that God gave us. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:36 | |
And when the government takes care of you all the time, | 0:54:36 | 0:54:38 | |
then that makes you children. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
-We are adults. We are not children. -But whose rules guide you? | 0:54:40 | 0:54:46 | |
-God's. -God's rules guide us, but it is... | 0:54:46 | 0:54:50 | |
The Constitution is written as "we, the people", | 0:54:50 | 0:54:54 | |
not "we, the politicians". | 0:54:54 | 0:54:56 | |
Trump is trying to stop what they've started. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
You don't trust the government, the way it works, | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
-and yet you trust Mr Trump? -We trust honourable people. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:07 | |
That's why we love Donald Trump. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:09 | |
A year and a half ago, this may sound odd, but... | 0:55:09 | 0:55:15 | |
I was sitting one day and God spoke to me and said, "That's my man." | 0:55:15 | 0:55:19 | |
I see that there is no way that one can tell you | 0:55:19 | 0:55:22 | |
that this man is not a good thing for America. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
-Well, honey... -But we have to see. Let's wait and see. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
# Oh, I've never been to heaven But I've been told | 0:55:28 | 0:55:33 | |
# The walls are jasper and the streets are gold | 0:55:33 | 0:55:39 | |
# I often wonder about that view | 0:55:39 | 0:55:44 | |
# But the greatest thought when we march through... # | 0:55:44 | 0:55:49 | |
I've been trying to find out about American values, | 0:55:51 | 0:55:54 | |
and I feel they may need to be redefined. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:59 | |
It's not family, it's conformity. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:02 | |
"You've got to be the same as us or we'll lock you up, | 0:56:02 | 0:56:06 | |
"we'll exclude you." | 0:56:06 | 0:56:08 | |
And as for preppers... | 0:56:08 | 0:56:10 | |
# Brother Stephen, look... # | 0:56:10 | 0:56:12 | |
..they're right - the world is a perilous place, | 0:56:12 | 0:56:16 | |
and they are wary of something. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:19 | |
And maybe it's of seeing | 0:56:19 | 0:56:20 | |
the America that they cherish disappearing, | 0:56:20 | 0:56:24 | |
but they're not wary enough of Mr Trump. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
They seem to have let down their guard entirely | 0:56:27 | 0:56:30 | |
where he's concerned. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:31 | |
And I don't think there's any point in what they're doing, really, | 0:56:31 | 0:56:37 | |
because in a nuclear war, forget it. We're all stuffed. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:43 | |
If the financial system fails, we're all stuffed. | 0:56:43 | 0:56:48 | |
They are not really looking forward at all. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:51 | |
They are looking backwards. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
SONG ENDS | 0:56:54 | 0:56:56 | |
-APPLAUSE -Thank you. | 0:56:56 | 0:56:58 | |
They've come here to escape from the present into the past, | 0:56:58 | 0:57:02 | |
and I don't think people should be escaping. | 0:57:02 | 0:57:06 | |
We should be standing square-on and facing the future and evolving, | 0:57:06 | 0:57:12 | |
changing, adapting. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:14 | |
Not going back. | 0:57:15 | 0:57:17 | |
Miriam tries to discover if the United States | 0:57:20 | 0:57:23 | |
are the divided states. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:26 | |
Her adventure takes her through the Deep South... | 0:57:26 | 0:57:28 | |
That is horrible. | 0:57:28 | 0:57:30 | |
..from the cowboys of the Wild West... | 0:57:30 | 0:57:33 | |
-You've just never met a lesbian Jew before. -Oh, my God! | 0:57:33 | 0:57:36 | |
..to the lady bikers of New Orleans. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:39 | |
You've got to go raise your shirt up and show your tits. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:41 | |
-Oh, I can do that any time! -LAUGHTER | 0:57:41 | 0:57:45 |