Episode 7 Permission Impossible: Britain's Planners


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Planning battles are raging across Britain.

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-I love the countryside.

-So do I, mate, so leave it alone.

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-I don't have time for NIMBYs.

-No to the student village!

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In a drive to boost the economy,

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the Government has relaxed planning laws.

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Here we are with a massive planning application.

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It's a big project. You're talking about 270 million of economic benefit.

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We like to see enterprise but not on our doorstep.

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So developers are cashing in.

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Of course I'm here to make a buck. Guilty as charged.

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Objectors are going to war.

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It's not morally right. It's not socially right.

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-Disgusting.

-Totally stitched up.

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I'm not having that they were frightened of a bunch of pensioners!

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Deciding who wins are Britain's planners.

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I can't sit on the fence.

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It's not a fence, it's railings, basically.

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Tonight, residents and councillors clash over a development.

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-Excuse me, not another word.

-What are you going to do?

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You can't explain everything until the morning.

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A veteran has a plan to help heroes.

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There are men and women in fox holes shivering from the cold.

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If we can help, we must.

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And will this derelict cottage ever become one family's dream home?

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I have stood over here and done this with my hands,

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as if I'm washing the dishes

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because this is where our sink's going to be.

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There are about 24 million households in the UK.

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Studies say that a million more will need to be built

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in the next eight years to keep up with our booming population.

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In the South East, London's rocketing house prices

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are putting enormous pressure on local authorities

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to find land for new homes.

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In Broxbourne, Hertfordshire,

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major site development officer Andy MacDougall deals with

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the borough's most controversial applications.

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Definitely a fair weather planner.

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I don't like going outside in the rain. It's never nice.

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Faffing about with plans and things.

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And the wind, wind's the other planner's nightmare.

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Nice sunny conditions, and I'm all right.

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On his desk is an application to develop land

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at the edge of the town of Hoddesdon.

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The plans have been greeted with stiff opposition.

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As you can see, someone didn't particularly like that.

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On the way back to the car, I'll pick that one up

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and take it off the lamppost. Not doing anyone any good there.

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High Leigh Garden Village is the biggest development in Broxbourne

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for a decade, the fruit of a joint venture between

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Lands Improvement Holdings and developer, Leach Homes.

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Proposed here is a mixed use development

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comprising up to 535 houses,

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with a school in a central location, we have a hotel, a gym

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and a restaurant as well as a local shop.

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It is a big development. You can see the size of it.

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That is, in effect, half of the site.

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Down here on the other side of the subway,

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we'll be visiting the other half of the site.

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If the development goes ahead, nearly 100 acres of green belt land

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will be lost to make way for the new scheme.

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While green belt is very heavily protected,

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in exceptional circumstances, housing can be allowed in a green belt.

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Now, I think many residents see the green belt as, simply, a no-go area.

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I'm expecting a large amount of letters from the residents

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in that corner over there.

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Clearly, they've got, at the moment unrestricted views

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of open countryside.

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Their views will be of a housing estate.

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Clearly, they will have a view on that.

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Ben, get here!

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For Hoddesdon residents, Sharon and Jock Taylor,

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the proposed building site holds special significance.

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We used to have great fun over here

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when we were youngsters, didn't we, when we first met each other?

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She was a bit of a tiger girl, weren't you?

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I was a young stag then, wasn't I?

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And she was a young hind.

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-Now I'm an old stag and she's an old hind now.

-Speak for yourself!

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Ex-gamekeeper Jock and wife Sharon

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are fighting the development, and it's not just their mating habitat

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they're trying to defend.

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If you look at the bank over there,

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there's big badger earths over there. Out!

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How can they bulldoze that up?

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That's going to be bulldozed up. Where are them badgers going to go?

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Straight across to the motorway. The other side of the bank is absolutely alive with badger earths.

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Houses are more important than wildlife.

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They're going to make millions out of them houses,

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they're not going to make millions out of them.

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That's the way society is today. Wildlife comes second.

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This is their kingdom, leave it alone.

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The removal of badger caves

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has to be authorised by government agency, Natural England,

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before any building can start.

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But nature lovers, Jock and Sharon, have lodged a full objection

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with the planners hoping that they will recommend an outright refusal

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for the scheme.

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But for residents of the converted farm buildings

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on the other side of the field, there will be no such luxury.

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We received a letter

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from the landowners.

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This particular letter was horrible,

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telling us they have covenance against us

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and therefore we are not allowed to object to anything

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that's going to be built.

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Pam and Daryk Armfield bought their current house ten years ago

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when the barns were converted.

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And with all 12 fellow residents of the barns,

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they signed deeds with a clause that forbids them

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from objecting to any future development.

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They're trying to get all of us in these houses here

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to back off and make no objection.

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I think that's their intention.

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They know there's an awful lot of adverse reaction

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from these houses and from the group of properties around here.

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With no response from the developer it's left to planner, Andy,

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to put their side of the story.

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Having previously been a planning consultant for the private sector,

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these clauses aren't particularly uncommon.

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While I can understand them being upset,

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I think there's both sides to every story.

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It's there very clearly on the deeds.

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I think the residents would have been well aware of that situation

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when they were buying the properties.

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Andy now has eight weeks to come up with his recommendation.

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Ever since this, large developers are on the same sort of level

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as bankers for me.

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We've just been silenced.

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We're talking to you now, and all the time, I'm thinking,

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I wonder if they'll have some clever legal guy

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that's going to get round this and sue us?

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-We've been hammered.

-Yeah.

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Hundreds of years ago, as Britain's road network grew and developed,

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so did too did thousands of roadside inns,

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the ancestors of the modern pub.

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There are now 45,000 pubs in Britain,

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but their number has been declining steadily

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and 26 are now closing every week.

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So, the pub quiz for today. Where are we going?

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Aha! We're going to a pub.

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Stroud's head planner, Phil Skill, is driving to the village of Stonehouse

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where it's the last call for 120-year-old Spa Inn.

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Planners are among the first to arrive on the scene

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when a pub closes.

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We've got an application here for a conversion

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of the public house into a residence.

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Two more buildings on the car park.

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Two pairs of semi-detached houses.

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The current tenant is due to leave in two months.

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The pub's owner, Wadworth Brewery,

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is struggling to find a new landlord

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and so decided to apply for housing.

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I'm the town planner, it's my job to decide what happens.

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Oh, is it?

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-Do you want any ice?

-No, thanks.

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The Spa was a country pub for most of its existence.

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In the past 30 years, however,

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an industrial estate has been built around it.

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Since 2000, sales are down by 60%.

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If there aren't enough sales, at some point

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the owners are going to say, enough's enough.

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From our conversations with the brewery, they have spent

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a lot of time and effort trying to keep the pub alive and operational.

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They've subsidised it to some extent, but you come to a point

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where do you stop putting money into something

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which is never going to go anywhere?

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Or do you say, enough's enough and we need to move on?

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It's a shame that planning people can't see beyond money things,

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that you've got to have a community to make life worth living.

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67-year-old objector Liz Kennedy

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is one of the last remaining regulars at the Spa.

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She's lived behind it with her husband Dave for 25 years.

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Excuse the windows. I don't clean them very often.

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You'll have a job seeing out through there, won't you?

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It's such a shame.

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The lorry drivers used to call there for meals in the evening

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so there were people around there.

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People off the trading estate came round at lunch time.

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It was more alive then.

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There we go.

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Liz herself is a retired lorry driver.

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When she's not at a motorbike rally, she's getting ready for one.

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We all get together and put our tents up

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and just have fun together.

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A lot of talk goes on.

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I'm a bit old-fashioned, I'm afraid.

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I don't have anything to do with computers, Facebook, Twitter,

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anything like that. I'd rather see people and talk to people.

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That's one of the things we might loose

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if things like village pubs go.

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Although the brewery is struggling to find a tenant,

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Liz and the pub regulars have asked them not to convert it into a house

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and keep looking for a new landlord.

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If the planners allow the pub to become a house,

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it will be lost for ever.

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I don't mind if the brewery wants to make a bit of money

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and stick a couple of houses up in the car park,

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but please leave the pub alone.

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Normally, Wadworth Brewery would jump at the chance

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of keeping the past alive.

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They still deliver to their pubs using shire horses,

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but having owned the 120-year-old Spa Inn since 1991,

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they've decided to give up on it.

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In the last ten years, we've spent in excess

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of £350,000 on the Spa.

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That includes £290,000 in 2006-2007, altering the house,

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increasing the trading area and improving the kitchen

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for it to become a place to go on a Friday, Saturday night

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or Sunday lunch time, you would go to the Spa.

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We tried, but sadly it's not worked.

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The time has come to draw a line under it,

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and we just need to move on.

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At the end of his visit,

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Phil decided to recommend approval for the brewery's application.

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I think, just looking at the financials,

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even if we don't grant a change of use on here, it will close.

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What I've got to do is see what we can do about making sure

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the land is put to a profitable use rather than becoming wasteland,

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just boarded up like so many other pubs.

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The car park's become an area for cars to do doughnuts in.

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Is that the sort of area we want?

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Or should the planning system be there to find an acceptable,

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alternative use? I think it's the latter.

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If I got sad at every pub that closed,

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I'd be so dehydrated from tears.

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This one closing may actually make one in Stonehouse survive

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that wouldn't normally have done.

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So one may die to save another.

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But as local residents are objecting to the brewery's application,

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this case will be determined by the elected members

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of Stroud's planning committee.

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They'll meet to consider the application in 48 hours.

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There are 4.5 million veterans of the armed forces in the UK -

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about 7% of the total population.

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In the peaceful Cheshire countryside,

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there are plans to build new facilities for discharged soldiers.

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They're in the hands of planner Steve Holmes.

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This is a proposal for 40 lodges

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all arranged in a regimented fashion.

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It does have the appearance of barracks in some respects.

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Which would comprise a gym, IT suite and other facilities

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which would help ex-servicemen and women reintegrate into civilian life.

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LAST POST SOUNDS

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A charity has started gathering the £3.25 million needed

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to fund the development.

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It's led by 51-year-old army veteran, Joe O'Connor.

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They shall not grow old like we grow old.

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As the sun goes down, we will remember them.

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Joe spent 15 years in the military, serving in the Royal Engineers unit,

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where he came very close to losing his life.

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We were on night patrol in the Brecon Beacons

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on a ridge, and it's gale force winds.

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A gust of wind caught me and I hit the ground

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with such an almighty bang.

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I got this pain like I was being stabbed in the neck.

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I was there for an hour and a half before the guys got to me.

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Paralysed, and with his neck broken in two places,

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Joe was discharged from the army and spent the next eight years in rehab.

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As his recovery progressed he devised the idea of a privately run

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veteran centre where discharged soldiers can recover physically

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while spending time together on camp.

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My friends, my family have supported me.

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And I've got a purpose in life,

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but there are guys who don't feel they have a purpose.

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They don't... They may question why they live.

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That's not right.

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Planner Steven has come to visit the site with landscape specialist,

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Tim Rogers, to decide if the introduction of 40 lodges

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and a rehabilitation centre in open countryside

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would be acceptable to the council.

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It's important for visual impact to stand on different points around the site

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and have a look at how it would be.

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-Do you want to lead, Joe?

-Just duck down.

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The field's existing residents will be re-housed

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if the application is approved.

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This is the time to make their representation to the planners.

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Oh!

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Don't know if it's worth going back there now

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so that we're being eaten by horses while we talk!

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Having seen the site, Steven's not convinced.

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The key point here is going to be visual impact.

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I think the problem at the moment, it's quite dense.

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It's the building in the centre that had the biggest visual impact.

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It is quite a big building.

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Perhaps some people may say it's a monstrous building.

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The density of the lodges is quite an issue as well.

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The planners are worried about the scale of the project.

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It's bad news for Joe.

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If this went in now as it is, would it pass or fail?

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It's going to struggle to get approval as it stands at the moment.

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OK. So, now we have to work on what will.

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Generally, our role is to look at what people have submitted

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and try and aid them through the process.

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There are some instances we're helping by saying,

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you're not going to get planning permission for that.

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It's back to the drawing board for Joe.

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Stephen will be waiting to receive his revised plans.

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In Broxbourne, Hertfordshire,

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a local developer wants to build 535 houses on green belt land.

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It's been a controversial application.

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And the responsibility for making a recommendation

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rests on the shoulders of planner Andy MacDougall.

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He's been looking for a way to de-stress.

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The planner is firmly at home today.

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This is a kind of a 12 kilometre obstacle course.

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I think if I can survive 12 kilometres in this sort of condition,

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I can survive eight weeks on a highway application. Easy!

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Come on!

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I think if applicants and neighbours saw me doing this,

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their main concern would be, why isn't he in the office

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reading my letter of objection or reading my planning statement

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rather than anything else, I imagine!

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-Excellent. Congratulations.

-Thank you very much.

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Elected members of Broxbourne planning committee

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are also waiting for Andy's decision.

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But due to the controversial nature of the application,

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the council have taken the unusual step of bringing

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the committee for a site visit before the recommendation is issued.

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These councillors include a London taxi driver,

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an ex-market stall holder and the owner of a cleaning company.

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I'm betwixt and between because...

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..we've got to build houses but when I look at these green fields,

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I wonder if I should be advocating building on them?

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If the development goes ahead, Hoddesdon residents,

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Jock and Sharon Taylor, stand to lose the field

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they've walked regularly for 30 years.

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Everything you can see here at the moment is proposed for houses.

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Letters of objections have been flocking to the planners

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but Jock has decided to follow his up with a chat to the councillors.

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Have a good look to see what you lot are going to ruin.

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-Who says we're going to ruin anything?

-Putting a housing estate on there?

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No-one said we're going to put housing there.

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-What are you all here for then?

-Come to have a look.

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-You going to look at the countryside?

-I love the countryside.

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So do I, mate, so leave it alone.

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If you think you're putting a housing estate on there,

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you're going to have a big fight on your hands.

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-Excuse me, not another word.

-Why's that then? What are you going to do?

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We understand your concerns, but there are a lot of other people

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who need housing as well. It's hard facts.

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I feel now we're boxed in like rabbits now.

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You start putting houses all on the fields, where are we going to run?

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Where can the rabbit run? Nowhere.

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It's a real problem and it's something

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that we have to wrestle with and come up with a solution.

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-Thank you.

-Bye-bye.

-Thanks, bye.

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I don't think there's anything they can do

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to make me feel, yeah, great, we're going to have an housing estate.

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If it does go ahead, we are seriously thinking about moving.

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The 16 weeks planner, Andy, was given to come up

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with a recommendation have passed.

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His verdict is due today.

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But there's a surprise.

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I'm still, as yet, undecided.

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This is potentially 523 houses on a green belt site.

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In applications like this it's important we do have all the facts.

0:21:200:21:23

There's really very little point in rushing a decision like this.

0:21:230:21:27

Before he goes to the planning committee

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with his recommendation, Andy wants to know how the scheme will affect

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the highways, whether there will be enough funds to provide

0:21:330:21:37

healthcare facilities for the new residents,

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and what the provisions will be for the new schooling.

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I think it is important

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that we're not having to be forced into making a decision prematurely.

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I am chasing consultees on a regular basis, if not a daily basis.

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So the sooner I can get all of the information I want

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and feel necessary to make a recommendation,

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is the sooner I can make the recommendation.

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Andy's recommendation will be made later this year.

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Members of the planning committee will then determine

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the High Leigh application.

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Meanwhile, the locals can keep enjoying uninterrupted views

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of the countryside.

0:22:160:22:18

There's lots of bits

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before they can even go to committee to say,

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how are we going to resolve this?

0:22:230:22:26

The council have got an awful lot to think about.

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It doesn't matter whether it takes three months, six months or two years,

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the fight will always be there as long as the threat is there.

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If they're threatening to dig up our green belt and countryside

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to put concrete, the fight will always go on, won't it?

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Absolutely.

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The fate of High Leigh Garden Village hangs in the balance.

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In Stonehouse, Gloucestershire,

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the future of this pub will be decided in just 24 hours.

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A brewery wants to turn it into a house

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and build four more houses in the car park.

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Deciding whether to allow the development will be the job

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of the 12 members of Stroud's planning committee.

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It may look like a jolly but that is far from the truth.

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These councillors, including a farmer, an ex-maintenance man

0:23:210:23:25

at a nuclear power station, and a retired teacher

0:23:250:23:28

have come to visit the Spa Inn before they make their decision.

0:23:280:23:32

What attempt has been made to disprove the fact

0:23:330:23:37

that it's not a working pub?

0:23:370:23:39

The brewery haven't been charging rent for quite a few years.

0:23:390:23:43

But it's still working. That's the truth.

0:23:430:23:46

You've got somewhere in the order of 5,000 people.

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This is literally the only immediate community facility.

0:23:480:23:53

Surely there's a community reason for this staying as a pub?

0:23:530:23:58

The economics of it is critical.

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That's what you're going to have to weigh up.

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These 12 members will meet again in 24 hours

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to have the final say on this application.

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Retired teacher, Liz Ashton, will be among them.

0:24:140:24:17

CAT MEOWS

0:24:170:24:19

SHE LAUGHS

0:24:190:24:21

Mummy needs to do some work.

0:24:220:24:25

Did you know that?

0:24:250:24:27

She was elected as a councillor in 2011 but had to fight

0:24:270:24:31

with the head planner to be allowed onto the committee.

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Phil Skill was a little bit concerned at first

0:24:340:24:36

because he felt that I needed more experience at planning,

0:24:360:24:40

but I persuaded him that I have got a lot of experience of life,

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if not planning.

0:24:430:24:46

Before retiring, Liz travelled the world,

0:24:470:24:50

teaching in numerous special needs schools.

0:24:500:24:52

These are food covers from Ethiopia.

0:24:540:24:58

The food in Ethiopia is absolutely beautiful.

0:24:580:25:02

The children used to fight with this one, sometimes!

0:25:040:25:07

Yes! It's impressive.

0:25:130:25:15

I don't know whether you could do somebody a mischief with it?

0:25:150:25:18

I hope not. I better sheath it up, hadn't I?

0:25:180:25:21

Liz had to fight to win her seat at planning committee.

0:25:290:25:33

Tonight she joins it to decide the future of the Spa Inn.

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The planners recommended the pub should be turned into a house.

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But Liz and her colleagues have the power to save it

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when voting time comes.

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First to speak is the brewery's manager, Lloyd Stephens.

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Since 2004, 2005, we have seen a steady decline in sales.

0:25:510:25:55

We have struggled to make a sensible or realistic profit.

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The premises have little or no future as a licensed trade outlet.

0:26:020:26:07

We're sorry that a small number of people will not have a pub

0:26:080:26:11

on their doorstep, but unfortunately the Spa Inn cannot continue as is.

0:26:110:26:16

Stonehouse resident, John Lavine, is speaking next

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on behalf of the pub's regulars.

0:26:200:26:22

I'd like to appeal to members and officers to reject the application

0:26:230:26:29

for the sake of my marriage, as much as anything else.

0:26:290:26:33

I'm sure there are others who need a refuge from Holby City

0:26:330:26:37

and Downtown Abbey, and some, I'm sure, would argue,

0:26:370:26:42

European football.

0:26:420:26:44

But I think with the right management,

0:26:460:26:49

the Spa can be a success.

0:26:490:26:51

Now it's down to the councillors to decide

0:26:530:26:56

whether to save the pub or allow it to become a house.

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I speak as a teetotaller, so I suppose I should declare an interest.

0:26:580:27:03

It does seem to me

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that there is a need for people to get together.

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So I'm not going to vote for the proposal.

0:27:130:27:16

I know there are sentimental reasons for keeping these things,

0:27:210:27:24

but I think the applicant have tried everything and it hasn't worked.

0:27:240:27:29

We should be doing everything we can to retain these facilities

0:27:300:27:34

and not be too eager to sell them off at the first application.

0:27:340:27:38

That's why I shan't be supporting this motion. Thank you.

0:27:380:27:42

With Liz proposing to go against the planners recommendation

0:27:450:27:49

and save the pub, the councillors go to the vote.

0:27:490:27:52

All those in favour, please show.

0:27:520:27:54

One, two, three, four.

0:27:550:27:57

All those against, please show.

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With four votes in favour and four against, it's a stalemate.

0:28:030:28:07

May I suggest, council, the item be deferred today

0:28:070:28:12

for further information on marketing.

0:28:120:28:14

That will give the opportunity for a community to consider

0:28:140:28:17

whether or not they wish to take on the asset

0:28:170:28:20

and find the wherewithals to support that.

0:28:200:28:24

Head planner, Phil suggests, the decision is delayed

0:28:240:28:27

until the next meeting, hoping that a new landlord would come

0:28:270:28:30

forward before the pub closes for good.

0:28:300:28:33

The one month delay could also provide the objectors

0:28:330:28:36

with a chance to take it over.

0:28:360:28:38

I would like to go with what you are suggesting.

0:28:390:28:44

What you said!

0:28:450:28:46

For now, it's a victory for the pub's regulars.

0:28:510:28:54

The other pubs in Stonehouse still do business.

0:28:540:28:56

I'm sure that the Spa Inn could compete.

0:28:560:28:59

We haven't got together really, but we will the next time.

0:28:590:29:02

We've got another go, haven't we?

0:29:020:29:04

This will give people the opportunity to get together and think about

0:29:050:29:09

whether they want it badly enough to put in the effort that is required.

0:29:090:29:14

If they don't, well...

0:29:140:29:17

That's it, isn't it?

0:29:170:29:19

It's very frustrating. It is a time delay.

0:29:210:29:24

From our point of view, the Spa Inn does not have a future.

0:29:240:29:27

The UK's housing stock is amongst the oldest in Europe.

0:29:390:29:44

Nearly a quarter of all houses were built before the World War I.

0:29:440:29:47

In Cheshire, after buying a 120-year-old cottage,

0:29:500:29:53

a young couple is in the middle of a stressful renovation project.

0:29:530:29:57

-She's a beacon of calmness.

-Don't!

0:29:570:30:00

Eight months ago, Jim and Ceri Rothwell

0:30:010:30:04

bought a cottage in the village of Oakmere

0:30:040:30:06

with the intention of making it their home.

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For Ceri, it was a dream come true.

0:30:090:30:12

We'd always had a mind that we would like to do something like this

0:30:120:30:15

because my other half is quite handy.

0:30:150:30:18

It's everything that we ever wanted.

0:30:180:30:21

A detached property, a lot of land,

0:30:210:30:23

outbuildings and a great big morning room, kitchen area,

0:30:230:30:27

which again, we've got.

0:30:270:30:29

Ceri and Jim's only desired alteration was a small extension

0:30:300:30:34

for which they obtained planning permission.

0:30:340:30:37

Then they started the renovation work.

0:30:370:30:39

We wanted to raise the ceilings but to maintain as much as we could

0:30:410:30:45

of the original character of the property.

0:30:450:30:48

But Ceri's dreams were soon shattered.

0:30:480:30:51

What actually happened, when they took the slates off the roof,

0:30:510:30:55

a massive crack formed down the side of the wall here.

0:30:550:30:59

This chimney fell. Part of the gable end fell as well.

0:30:590:31:05

So the actual mortar that was between the stand stone was like chalk.

0:31:050:31:09

It was so crumbly. You could easily have put your finger in it.

0:31:090:31:13

It was obviously very old

0:31:130:31:16

and had not been cared for for quite some time.

0:31:160:31:19

The weather had gotten to it and had caused it to perish.

0:31:190:31:24

Tell Mummy, where is our house? It's outside, isn't it?

0:31:240:31:29

Since the old cottage fell down, the Rothwells have been living

0:31:290:31:32

in an on site caravan with their children aged four and one.

0:31:320:31:36

All of this side and internally was the existing cottage,

0:31:360:31:42

but really it was this bit that I had my heart set on retaining.

0:31:420:31:47

But sadly, that was the bit that was unsafe.

0:31:470:31:50

It ended up coming down.

0:31:500:31:52

We have been left with this U-shaped piece of original cottage.

0:31:520:31:57

With just a third of the old building left standing,

0:31:580:32:01

Ceri and her husband, Jim, patiently set about rebuilding what fell down,

0:32:010:32:05

convinced that the work would be covered by the planning permission.

0:32:050:32:10

I'm a practical bloke. I'm an engineer by trade.

0:32:100:32:13

It's an extension because I kept some of the existing

0:32:130:32:15

and I've gone to great lengths to keep some of the existing.

0:32:150:32:18

But in Cheshire West and Chester's planning department,

0:32:220:32:25

someone's not so sure.

0:32:250:32:27

In order for it to be classed as an extension,

0:32:280:32:30

there really has to be a house there to extend.

0:32:300:32:34

I don't think you could call three remaining walls a house, really.

0:32:340:32:39

You'd find it very difficult to live in that.

0:32:390:32:42

For planning development manager Nial Casselden,

0:32:430:32:46

the rebuilding works aren't permitted in this case.

0:32:460:32:49

There's a lot of case law and appeal decisions that go back many years,

0:32:490:32:54

debating about what is and isn't a replacement house.

0:32:540:32:58

But in our view, having seen the plans,

0:32:580:33:01

I think we're pretty confident that this really has to be considered

0:33:010:33:05

as a new house that he's building.

0:33:050:33:08

But having already spent £100,000 on the build,

0:33:110:33:14

and keen to get out of their caravan,

0:33:140:33:17

Ceri and Jim have decided to press on.

0:33:170:33:20

It would be nice if we had planning permission though.

0:33:200:33:23

-You're so irresponsible.

-I'm not irresponsible. It's fine. No, it's great.

0:33:230:33:27

It's terribly irresponsible.

0:33:270:33:29

Where we are today

0:33:310:33:33

is that we haven't got any plans permitted, as such,

0:33:330:33:35

and we are pressing forward at our own risk.

0:33:350:33:38

Which is scary!

0:33:420:33:45

-You do seem fairly relaxed.

-It's all the Valium!

0:33:450:33:49

Where developers have ploughed on

0:33:520:33:54

and started doing works without getting planning permission,

0:33:540:33:58

there is always a big risk for them.

0:33:580:34:00

For example, if the roof is too high,

0:34:000:34:03

they might have to tear the roof off and start again.

0:34:030:34:06

With the roof just about to go up,

0:34:110:34:13

Nial has come to visit the Rothwells to tell them that rebuilding works

0:34:130:34:17

aren't covered by the permission to extend.

0:34:170:34:20

What we want to be certain of is that when we do grant permission we grant the right permission,

0:34:200:34:25

so that it corresponds with the actual development taking place.

0:34:250:34:29

That's as much in your interests as it is in ours, really.

0:34:290:34:33

To me, it's semantics.

0:34:330:34:34

I would look at the fact that we have an existing part of the building

0:34:340:34:38

and I would say that if we have any part of the building,

0:34:380:34:40

whether it be just a floor or some walls, then technically, it can be argued,

0:34:400:34:45

if you paid a lawyer enough, that it was an extension.

0:34:450:34:47

I do feel for them because they are living in a caravan

0:34:510:34:55

and probably during the winter it's going to be cold and horrible.

0:34:550:34:59

They just want to get their house finished and get into it.

0:34:590:35:03

But right now, what you see in front of you is unlawful.

0:35:030:35:06

It doesn't have planning permission.

0:35:060:35:09

Until you've got that piece of paper in your hand

0:35:090:35:11

that says "planning permission", there's always a risk.

0:35:110:35:14

The only option for Ceri and Jim is to submit a new planning application

0:35:140:35:18

for the rebuilding works and hope that it will satisfy the planners.

0:35:180:35:22

If it doesn't, they face spending the winter in their caravan.

0:35:220:35:26

Only ten miles away in Tarporley,

0:35:400:35:42

the planners refuse Joe O'Connor's first proposal to build 40 cabins

0:35:420:35:46

and a rehabilitation centre for army veterans

0:35:460:35:50

in a field behind his house.

0:35:500:35:51

Joe has submitted a new proposal,

0:35:530:35:55

cutting down the scheme to 23 log cabins and a reduced rehab centre

0:35:550:35:59

with an eco-friendly green roof.

0:35:590:36:01

Planner Steven Holmes has to decide whether he's finally done enough

0:36:030:36:06

for a recommendation to approve.

0:36:060:36:08

Our input has been taken on board at virtually every turn.

0:36:100:36:13

The scheme is a pretty good one

0:36:130:36:16

and one that we feel, as officers, happy to support.

0:36:160:36:20

Joe's scheme has the support of the planners,

0:36:240:36:27

but there is an army of councillors who will have the final word on his application

0:36:270:36:31

currently charging towards the proposed building site.

0:36:310:36:35

If they can find it.

0:36:350:36:37

We all live around here and we don't know where it is.

0:36:380:36:41

Isn't it on that road?

0:36:410:36:43

We're not going the right way.

0:36:450:36:47

We're going to have fun turning... Is it a left turn here?

0:36:470:36:51

They don't get many people turning left here.

0:36:510:36:54

I've never seen anyone turning left here. This is a first.

0:36:540:36:58

You have now, David!

0:36:580:37:00

We're the first!

0:37:000:37:03

Right, then, this way. We will have to cross the road.

0:37:050:37:08

I don't think that there is a pavement.

0:37:080:37:10

Planning development manager Nial Casselden is tour guide for the day.

0:37:100:37:14

These committee members, including a rock salt producer,

0:37:140:37:19

a retired police officer and a farmer, would have the power

0:37:190:37:22

to approve or reject the construction of lodges on Joe's land.

0:37:220:37:26

It would be all of this rectangular field.

0:37:260:37:30

Up to that hedgerow there.

0:37:300:37:32

But that is as far as planning can go

0:37:320:37:36

They can't determine who will be using them in the future.

0:37:360:37:40

Joe has requested permission for a generic campsite.

0:37:400:37:43

There is no guarantee it will always remain a veteran centre.

0:37:430:37:46

You have to remember, even if this was granted permission,

0:37:460:37:50

it could end up with an entirely different operator.

0:37:500:37:52

It's not necessarily going to be the applicant.

0:37:520:37:55

Would we have a holiday camp here?

0:37:550:37:58

And he may say "Yes", I don't know.

0:37:590:38:01

They have obviously given it a lot of consideration and discussed it.

0:38:090:38:13

And taken into account the environment.

0:38:130:38:17

So tomorrow is the big day, really.

0:38:190:38:21

The councillors will meet in 24 hours

0:38:230:38:25

to have the final say on this application.

0:38:250:38:27

Meanwhile, eight local residents have objected to the construction of the veterans' centre,

0:38:300:38:35

fearing it may well become a commercial campsite.

0:38:350:38:38

Eveleigh Moore Dutton is the local ward councillor

0:38:410:38:43

and also a member of the planning committee.

0:38:430:38:47

We don't grant planning applications to a person

0:38:470:38:49

or to an organisation, you grant it for a site.

0:38:490:38:52

So sometimes you have to be completely impartial and say,

0:38:520:38:56

what, for the long-term,

0:38:560:38:59

is the best for this area and for the wider community?

0:38:590:39:01

It is a pretty stark dilemma in this case.

0:39:030:39:06

When voting time comes, Eveleigh will have

0:39:060:39:09

to balance the feelings of the community with her own.

0:39:090:39:12

At the moment I have my daughter, who is in the Royal Artillery,

0:39:140:39:17

and she has done three operational tours now.

0:39:170:39:21

And my son is in the Royal Engineers.

0:39:210:39:24

In September, he will be going to help with the withdrawal from Iraq.

0:39:240:39:29

He will be one of the first of those to do nine months.

0:39:290:39:32

I have huge sympathy for anyone who has been in the forces.

0:39:320:39:36

They all go through horrible things,

0:39:380:39:42

even those who come back sound in mind and body.

0:39:420:39:46

And a lot don't. So whatever we can do to help those, we should.

0:39:470:39:51

But we also have our local communities at home we have to care for.

0:39:530:39:56

In Stonehouse, Gloucestershire,

0:40:050:40:07

another community is up in arms trying to save their local pub.

0:40:070:40:11

Plans to turn the Spa Inn into a house have been put on hold

0:40:110:40:15

for a month to give its regulars an opportunity to take it over.

0:40:150:40:19

# We're walking down the alleyway, the alleyway, the alleyway

0:40:190:40:23

# Walking down the alleyway

0:40:230:40:25

# Nah, nah, nah. #

0:40:250:40:27

Two more regulars of the Spa Inn have joined the campaign to save their pub.

0:40:270:40:31

Wendy Keene and Esther Davey.

0:40:310:40:34

This is the next step.

0:40:340:40:36

We are putting car stickers on.

0:40:380:40:41

Initially, I said 'Save The Spa Inn', but it didn't have the right ring.

0:40:410:40:46

So we thought 'Save Our Spa - SOS'. We need help.

0:40:460:40:50

It's about the whole community and what we see as our local pub.

0:40:500:40:55

-Isn't it?

-Yep.

0:40:550:40:57

Wendy and Esther have also started a petition

0:40:590:41:02

against the closure of the Spa Inn,

0:41:020:41:04

which they hope will help save their 120-year-old pub.

0:41:040:41:07

They were using it as a spa house before they started selling beer.

0:41:090:41:13

The wells are still there.

0:41:130:41:16

-And it was for medicinal purposes, wasn't it?

-Yes.

0:41:160:41:19

But Royalty chose to patronise Cheltenham instead, which is why there's Cheltenham Spa.

0:41:190:41:24

If the king had not gone to Cheltenham it would have been Stonehouse Spa.

0:41:240:41:28

The first landlord was Edward Izzor, from 1890...

0:41:280:41:32

No, no, no!

0:41:320:41:34

From... Are you still filming?

0:41:360:41:38

-Yes.

-She will edit it.

0:41:380:41:40

From 1891, it was from Edward Izzor, and he ran it until 1903.

0:41:400:41:44

-What happened after that?

-He fell down the well!

0:41:440:41:47

No, sorry!

0:41:470:41:49

We have become great historians over the last couple of weeks!

0:41:520:41:55

And these campaigners have one more reason to be merry.

0:41:580:42:01

Having heard about their protest, brewery boss Lloyd Stevens

0:42:040:42:08

has decided to facilitate the community bid for the pub

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by offering it to them rent free for a year.

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We have offered the opportunity to take on the Spa on a 12 month rent free basis,

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under the terms of our standard tenancy agreement.

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Their involvement would be to purchase the fixtures and fittings and the stock.

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And at the end of 12 months, we're quite happy to sit down and review the situation with them.

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The community has the chance to run the Spa Inn rent free,

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but accepting Lloyd's offer will still cost them money.

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Normally, our tenants require and pay what is termed as initial in-going.

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In terms of how much somebody would need to go into the Spa Inn,

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we are probably talking about £23,000.

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We can't afford to put money into it.

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Nobody in Stonehouse has that sort of money.

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We believe that the town council is against the planning permission.

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They have objected.

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Without enough funds of their own,

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the locals have arranged a meeting with Stonehouse Town Council,

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hoping to get financial help.

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Some of us have been exceptionally busy and got a petition.

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How many signatures are we up to now?

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Just over 800.

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Over 800 signatures now. All local people who know the Spa Inn

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and who want to see it remain open as a pub.

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The locals gathered signatures from a tenth of the population

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of Stonehouse, but to save the pub, they now need money.

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We want to get a good outcome for you. We truly do.

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But what I cannot do as the chair of this council

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is to commit public money to support a private enterprise.

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There are a lot of hard working activists desperately trying to save it

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but what you need is somebody with deep pockets

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and a big community heart.

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The problem is, we are struggling to find that person to come forward.

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The Town Council is unable to help.

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Time to look for another solution.

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We can all chip in £20, but I don't think it will get us far.

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-Shall we reconvene?

-Yes, reconvene to the pub.

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The objectors are going for a drink, just not at the Spa Inn.

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If they want it reopened, they have just 20 days left to find £23,000.

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150 miles to the north, in Chester,

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the planning committee have assembled to decide whether to allow

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the construction of a rehabilitation centre

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for army veterans in the village of Tarporley.

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Applicant Joe O'Connor has brought his family along for moral support.

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You look very relaxed, Joe.

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Never let the enemy see you're frightened.

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This is a full planning application for the erection

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of 23 wooden accommodation chalets, a central amenity building

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and two smaller structures which would be by the site entrance.

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Joe's scheme has the backing of the planners.

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Now, he has to persuade the councillors to let him build it.

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Whatever your political opinions, you cannot failed to be moved by the heroism of our British military.

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While we debate the rights and wrongs of war, there are men and women in foxholes shivering from the cold,

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uncertain if they will live.

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Of course, some don't. But for those that do, the hell is only just beginning.

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And if we can help, we must.

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Sanctuary of the Veterans will help replace their negative feelings

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with a positive attitude and a new optimism for life.

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Henry Ford said, "If you think you can or you think you can't, either way you're right."

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Let's show our injured veterans that they can.

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That journey starts right here, right now. Thank you.

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Before the councillors debate the plans,

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parish council leader Cora Cowop

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speaks on behalf of the eight objectors.

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Whilst the intended use of the site would seem charitable and well meaning,

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our understanding is that no supporting evidence has been provided

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to demonstrate the need or to show that this is an appropriate location.

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Once approved, the lodges could be legally used

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to accommodate any member of the public, not just veterans.

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Deciding whether or not to approve Joe's plans is also a matter of trust.

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All we would be giving planning permission for would be for holiday cottages

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and the thing could be sold on to anybody

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and it may not be occupied by servicemen in the future.

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Eveleigh Moore Dutton is the ward member for Tarporley.

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Two of her children are in the army.

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Is there any means by which we can ensure that any permission that is given,

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should it be given, will be used by veterans in perpetuity?

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The simple answer is no.

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This is being considered essentially as a campsite.

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Who occupies it is not a matter for consideration.

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It is whether or not a proposal in this location is acceptable.

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In planning, the final user of this development is not a material consideration.

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All of those in favour of approval, please show.

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Only five of the committee members have voted to support the plans.

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All of those against.

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Abstentions?

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It is a dead heat.

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The deciding vote falls to the chair of the planning committee.

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As I have the casting vote, and I vote to approve it,

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the application is approved.

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The stalemate is broken.

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The veteran village can be built.

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I really wanted to jump up and shout,

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"Listen, I don't want to turn it into holiday homes, This is not about capital gain."

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This is not about capitalism, or about making money.

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This is about changing lives.

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I voted against it. Reluctantly.

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And there is a bit of me that is almost relieved it has gone through.

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All I can say is that for the future I wish them the best

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and hope it does get used for armed services.

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What a battle that was. That was fantastic.

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That will go down with the greats.

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The Battle of Britain. The Falklands.

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Sanctuary for Veterans. It is up there. It is up there with them.

0:48:570:49:01

Yeah. Brilliant.

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Down the road in Oakmere,

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33-year-old Ceri Rothwell and her husband, Jim,

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wanted to extend their 120-year-old cottage.

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But when two thirds of the building fell down,

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they started to rebuild without the correct planning permission.

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We are going to have an open hallway

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and my utility room in here with my washer and drier and fridge, et cetera.

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Play room, kitchen, living room.

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This for us is everything we ever wanted from a house.

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A great big kitchen.

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But all their work is under threat.

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For the planners, the rebuilding was not covered by the planning permission to extend.

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Ceri and Jim have submitted a new application.

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If the planners do not accept it, they will have to stop work

0:50:040:50:07

and carry on living in their on-site caravan.

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We have a 16-month-old daughter that's been on antibiotics for a week.

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They don't give out antibiotics to young babies lightly.

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That is because we are living in a tin box.

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It's one millimetre of aluminium and an inch of polystyrene.

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It is not suitable for living in at this time of year.

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Every delay is a real problem. It has a real impact.

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Ceri and Jim's new application

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is in the hands of planning development manager Nial Casselden.

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We have had the amended plans in. We have carried out a new round of consultation.

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We have had the information we need. We have given it a full assessment.

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We've been out on site. Taken a look at it in the flesh. We are happy with it.

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It is not causing problems. We think this is a good scheme.

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It will not cause problems for anyone, so, yeah, absolutely.

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We are definitely going to grant permission.

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For Ceri, moving into her dream cottage can now become a reality.

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I have stood over here quite a few times when we've been in.

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I've been at the window and done this with my hands as if I'm washing the dishes

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because this is where our sink's going to be.

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You are stood on my breakfast bar at the moment!

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Knowing that the planners are going to give us permission

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is a huge weight off our minds.

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It means we can plough forwards with everything we wanted to plough

0:51:430:51:48

forwards with before, but safe in the knowledge it can't be contested.

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In Stonehouse, Gloucestershire, five weeks have passed

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since the last planning committee meeting,

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but local campaigners have not found the money to take over the pub.

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And it is not just the objectors who have run out of time.

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The planning committee couldn't schedule a new meeting, so the brewery lodged an appeal.

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We get eight weeks to determine the application.

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If we don't then the applicant, the brewery in this case,

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has the legal right to take it to the inspectorate and say, you have a go.

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It's a bit of a game like pass the parcel,

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where you only get eight weeks before the person in charge of the game

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can say "no", hand it on to the next person, and they can have a go at it.

0:52:420:52:46

The brewery's decision to involve the planning inspector

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has cut out head planner Phil Skill entirely.

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Follow the yellow brick road. Follow the yellow brick road.

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But Phil is about to get a visit

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by the last three remaining Spa Inn regulars.

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Phil Skill. What a stupid name!

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We have come here this afternoon to meet Mr Phil Kelly...

0:53:050:53:10

No. Phil Skill.

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In one final bid to save their pub, objectors Wendy, Liz and Esther

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have come to hand over their petition,

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that contains over 800 signatures.

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-Hello, I'm Phil Skill.

-Esther Davey. Nice to meet you.

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This is on behalf of everybody in Stonehouse community.

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I hope it helps because these people

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genuinely do want to save the Spa Inn.

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I will make sure that this is forwarded to the inspector directly.

0:53:370:53:41

-Excellent. Thank you very much.

-Thank you.

-Thank you.

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This is the objectors' last chance to make their voice heard.

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The inspector will visit the Spa Inn in the couple of days,

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but any lobbying will be strictly forbidden.

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It is a one-person site visit.

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Not a time for debate

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and for talking about the issues.

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They can say, "Hello, would you like a cup of tea?"

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But you don't speak to the inspector.

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-Are you the inspector?

-Yes.

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-Excuse me, am I allowed to tag on if I don't say anything?

-Yes.

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I won't say anything.

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I've lived there for over 25 years, so I've seen all sorts happening.

0:54:270:54:31

-I think we have seen all we need to see.

-Thank you very much.

-Goodbye.

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-Is that it?

-Thank you very much.

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The inspector's visit lasts ten minutes.

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Now, he will have to make a decision.

0:54:500:54:53

It was so quick.

0:54:530:54:55

He was saying, "This is that, this is that, this is that." Done deed.

0:54:550:54:59

The inspector has eight weeks to come up with his verdict,

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which is final and can only be challenged in a court of law.

0:55:050:55:09

But only two weeks later...

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Oh, gosh, what a wad.

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Well, he made up his mind very quickly.

0:55:160:55:18

He was not there more than...

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Well, ten minutes at the most, I think.

0:55:210:55:24

What a shame they couldn't have put a first-class stamp on it.

0:55:250:55:28

I would have known sooner instead of reading it in the paper!

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There it is in black and white.

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-Unfortunately, we have lost our fight to save the Spa Inn.

-Gutted.

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And I know I will speak for all of the regulars

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and the loyal customers that went to the Spa Inn.

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I can speak for all of them, they are all gutted.

0:55:490:55:52

It is part of Stonehouse's heritage that will disappear.

0:55:520:55:56

The inspector's decision means that the brewery can convert

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the Spa Inn into a house and build four more houses in the car park.

0:56:060:56:11

The council believed that there was still life in the pub.

0:56:110:56:14

So, on one hand the council is disappointed,

0:56:140:56:18

but it wasn't something that we weren't really expecting.

0:56:180:56:21

Objector Liz has not just lost her local pub.

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She is also about to lose the view out of her bedroom window.

0:56:280:56:32

I wish somebody could have bought it that would have made a go of it.

0:56:340:56:38

Just like The Badger at Eastington,

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which was run down and is now thriving.

0:56:420:56:45

Well, I hate to say it but I would laugh my head off

0:56:490:56:54

if the bulldozer went in and fell into a sinkhole!

0:56:540:56:57

You can't say that!

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Next time, we revisit some of last year's

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most controversial planning decisions.

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What happened when planning permission was refused for this Cheltenham resident?

0:57:120:57:17

Did the lord of the manor secure the future of his ancestral home?

0:57:180:57:22

And what was the fate of these green fields in Tarporley?

0:57:220:57:26

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