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We take electricity for granted... | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
Most people just think that electricity | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
comes from a cable in the ground to your house and that's it. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
..and never give a second thought to how it's made. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
The flames are nice and bright and bushy. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
But behind the scenes, | 0:00:16 | 0:00:17 | |
our power companies are struggling to keep the lights on. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
MACHINERY BEEPS | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
National Grid want their energy now, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
we can't afford to miss that instruction. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
This winter we could face blackouts. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
You can't say, "I'm sorry, you'll have to turn your fridge off." | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
It's a fire at a coal-powered fire station. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
Power stations we've relied on for 50 years are coming down. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
But bills and profits have gone up. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
How can these profits be fair | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
when the people cannot afford to pay for their energy? | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
The energy giants are under fire from all sides. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
People hate you. Let's be honest, they don't like you guys, right? | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
I've been told to go hang myself by a customer. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
I'm trying to help you, sir. Hello? | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
Now one of country's biggest, SSE, has let the cameras in. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:09 | |
Filmed over one critical year... | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
Basically if we don't generate enough, the lights will go out. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
..this is a surprising story of a hidden world. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
Voila, une turbine. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
-As an army of workers... -Good morning. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
..battle to keep our power flowing. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
We need to make a saving of half a million pounds. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
Where? | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
Hello, you're through to Lewis. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
-Get this bloody meter out my garden. -This time... | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
Morning, we've got lots of customers waiting to speak to us. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
..the story of a company fighting to improve its image. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
We've been trying to sort of get much more proactive in trying | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
to make consumers re-engage in energy. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
-From preventing power cuts... -How long do we reckon? | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
-Three or four hours. -Jesus. -..to customer service. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
I don't like being treated like an idiot and a fool. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
Our job in this company is - how can we show customers | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
we want to do better? | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
But can the company turn its reputation around? | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
What does amazing look like? What does brilliant look like? | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
Right, I'm trying to help you, sir. Hello? | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
Thank you for calling SSE Swalec. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
To help us connect your call as quickly as possible, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
please press the star key on your phone twice. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
Five million of us buy our power from SSE, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
one of the big six energy companies. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
The only loose change is if your prices have gone up. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
-Yeah. -It's very poor customer service. -And I totally agree. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
The poorest I have ever seen. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
Most people that phone up, they're calling because they have a problem. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
In 2014 the company made profits of £1.5 billion. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
Hello? | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
What does the invoice state? | 0:03:05 | 0:03:06 | |
Notice of electricity disconnection. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
They also lost 370,000 customers. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
You can't please everyone, can you? | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
We're the bad guys because our prices are too high or we're | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
not doing enough and this, that and the other. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
It should go back to zero but it doesn't. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
I would never dream of speaking to somebody | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
the way that we get spoken to. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
Do you know what? I've not hung up, right? | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
I didn't feel like I wanted to give yous it because yous have took | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
the piss out of us and I felt like you were bumping us. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
One of the biggest sources of complaint... | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
I'm sorry to hear that, when did it go off? | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
..is power cuts but SSE is fighting back. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:49 | |
In the battle for the hearts and minds of its customers, | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
this is the new front-line. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:54 | |
That one can be extended straight up onto it. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
We've got some poles still on the system, 1930s, and that's | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
incredible, really. You know it's an old pole when it's older than you. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:09 | |
Linesmen are key to keeping the lights on this winter. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
Kevin Wade has been doing the job for 36 years. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -Never have taken a shock, have you? | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
Have we all had a...? | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
-Yes, we've all had little shocks. -Have you? -At times, yeah. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
I mean, if you're up in the air, you can survive a 241... | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
but 11,000, no, you'd be very lucky. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
You get the shock and it knocks you off the pole | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
and the person could look quite fine but when you take them | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
to hospital the first thing they would say to the people is, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
"Get the relatives in," because it's like a microwave. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
When you get 11,000, it cooks you from the inside out. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
A prime example is a squirrel. So they come down and they look | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
all right and then you go and see them about ten, 15 minutes later | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
and all the skin's starting to bubble up where the blood | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
is boiling inside, yeah. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
And when they go pop, it's a horrible smell. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
While all big six energy companies sell power, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
SSE is the only one that also delivers it. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
It has a separate distribution business responsible for | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
managing the power lines in Scotland and parts of southern England. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
Down here we've got the big houses, we've got the merchant bankers | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
and they're not used to seeing power cuts | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
and they just expect a 100% supply. Well, I'm sorry, but | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
if you move into the country, you're not going to get a 100% supply. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
It doesn't matter how we do it, it's... | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
Storms are always against us. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
'December was one of the stormiest periods in decades, hundreds of | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
'thousands of households were without power | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
'over the key festive period.' | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
Christmas 2013 we had 65mph winds, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:59 | |
there were hundreds of thousands of customers lost power then. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
No matter what the conditions, power cuts are bad publicity. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
'Falling trees and flying debris played havoc with | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
'the electricity network.' | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
When it first hit, we were getting fault after fault after fault | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
literally every second. It was quite hard. And then when they stood down | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
the engineers because it was too unsafe for them to work, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
having to say that to people that we weren't going to coming back | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
out till the morning when it was safer, it was awful, really awful. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:32 | |
'It was one of the stormiest periods in decades which left hundreds | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
'of thousands of households without power over the festive season.' | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
The great storm of 2013 won't be forgotten quickly by those affected. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
We'd just started to open our Christmas presents | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
and the lights went out. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
So many people were off, there was a swathe of people off. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:57 | |
No indication when it was going to come on, absolutely nothing, | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
the communication was terrible. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
The company was heavily criticised for its handling of the crisis | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
and questioned in Parliament about its response. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
£27 for customers who were without power for 48 hours, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:17 | |
it's an absolute pittance. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
This year, the company is desperate to avoid more damage | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
to its reputation. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:25 | |
Come on, keep coming, keep coming. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
So in a bid to keep the lights on, Kevin and the linesmen | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
are now replacing power lines dating back decades. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
The span of overhead line going down through here is going to be | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
removed, so what they're doing is they're attaching stay rods with | 0:07:40 | 0:07:45 | |
stays, an anchor point, so that the weight of the line going that | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
way can be supported whilst they drop the overhead line down. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
-Oh, I see. -Yeah. -So it's jolly good. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
Better get the candles out, then. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
No, no, you won't be going off, sir. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
We don't want this one on the full tension, do we? | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
No, you don't, but you don't want... Yeah, all right, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
-as long as you're happy with that come-along... -What? | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
You've got to wait, if you distance drop... | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
-You're all on via backfeeds now. -Are you sure? | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
Yeah, I hope so. You should be, anyway. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
But if you have any problems, there's an emergency number | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
on the side of the van. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:26 | |
Well, they won't answer, anyway. Thanks for your information. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
That's all right, have a good day sir. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
Right, stop traffic while we cut just in case. Stop. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
Right, coming down. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:47 | |
All right, you on? That's all the new stays on. Yeah, that's good. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
You can open it now, mate, yeah. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
Down we go for dinner. Phew! | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
Preventing power cuts would go some way to restoring public confidence | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
in the company but, in the battle to | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
rebuild its reputation, there's a lot of ground to make up. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
'Energy companies were today hauled before MPs | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
'and one was immediately in the firing line.' | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
Can you tell us exactly when SSE stopped mis-selling? | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
'Earlier this month, SSE was fined over £10 million | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
'for mis-selling, including using misleading language to | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
'customers on their doorstep.' | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
It was ultimately decided that there were inappropriate elements | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
within that script, we changed that script. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
Illegal elements, not inappropriate. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
Illegal and misleading. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
The mis-selling scandal of 2013 was hugely damaging for the company. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
The man in the firing line was its chief executive, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
Alistair Phillips-Davies. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
Because I've got a double-barrelled name, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
people just think I'm posh but I went to a comprehensive in Derby, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
so I don't know how posh that is, really. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
Alistair has a plan to rebuild the company's image | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
and he needs his troops onside. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
-These guys have been desperate to meet you. -Really? Crikey Moses. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
Yes, you're a celebrity. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
Last year, Alistair earned £2.3 million. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
We want to know what you do in your spare time when you're not working. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
-I'm never not working. -THEY CHUCKLE | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
No, bit boring. I like playing golf but | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
I quite like cooking as well, you know, monk fish and stuff like that. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:46 | |
I don't know, last night I did lemon chicken with spinach. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
-Sounds lovely. -Tania will be down your house, looking for an invite. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
He's hoping that a glimpse into the boss's world will give | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
staff morale a much needed boost. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
Whereabouts are you based? | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
I'll be in London, Cardiff, Havant, you know, all the various places. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
Go to America, you know, something like that. Bill Gates has invited | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
me to something in May, so I'll go to Microsoft and see Bill Gates. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
I had dinner at his house last year, which was quite interesting. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
What's that like? | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
It's big, his house is probably about the size of this office, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
actually, it's 66,000 square feet but he's quite a modest, shy guy, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:27 | |
actually. They're just normal people a lot of them, just like anybody. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
The thing is, I'm just a normal person. I went to school, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
did my exams, grew up, all of you should aspire to do the same thing. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
Over the last year, Alistair has seen the company lose | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
hundreds of thousands of customers amid now-familiar | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
accusations of fast practices and fat-cat profits. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
He's entrusted a makeover of the company to | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
one of his loyal lieutenants. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
So now I'm going to have a sneaky piece of chocolate. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
And the man in charge of giving the business a new image is | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
head of retail, Will Morris. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -Why do you think it's the energy sector | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
that people sort of pick on? | 0:12:18 | 0:12:19 | |
There is a requirement within our...political system, I think. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:24 | |
To an extent, for the bad guy, I think the energy companies | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
are, you know... The rhetoric... To be fair to consumers, if you hear, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:33 | |
"MultiGen's talking about rip-off energy companies," | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
and this and that, I mean, it's not surprising | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
people have that perception. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:39 | |
All right, cheers. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
As a former marketing manager at Disneyworld, Will's brief is | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
to sprinkle a little fairy dust over the company's public image. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
I remember when I took the job, one concern - it might be a bit | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
quiet and dull compared to the fun and games of the hotels of Disney | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
and, of course, little did I know that I would find myself in front | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
of a select committee and all of their sort of abuse and stuff | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
less than a year later. So one thing it has not been is dull. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
A key part of Will's job is defending | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
the company against its many critics. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
How can these profits be fair | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
when the people cannot afford to pay for their energy? | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
The reason it's fair is because, if I don't make | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
a 5% profit in my business, I can't afford to continue | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
employing my 20,000 people, which are equally members of our society | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
in Britain, and I can't actually afford to operate the company. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
It's less than supermarkets make, it's a fraction | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
of what mobile-phone companies make. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
Now Will's decided to go on the offensive. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
He's going to discuss the launch of his big new idea to make us | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
think differently about energy and his employers. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
We are a utility but, for years and years and years, we've communicated | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
gas hob burning and a fire and, actually, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
it's pretty dull, right? | 0:14:02 | 0:14:03 | |
# When I fall in love | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
# It will be forever... # | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
The problem for Will is that energy companies all have | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
an identical product, so he needs to find an ingenious way | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
to help his stand out from the crowd. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
The campaign which broke on Saturday on X Factor is principally | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
designed to engage with customers for the very first time. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
We could have done that a number of different ways. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
We could have done it through a child, we could have done it through | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
some sort of alien but we chose to do it through an orang-utan | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
and the reason we did that was because | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
they are incredibly human, incredible wisdom | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
and beauty and we felt that, actually, our lead, our character, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
Maya, could actually convey, through her eyes and through her fascination | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
and discovery of energy for the very first time, the story of energy. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
We've been trying to sort of get much more proactive through | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
the orang-utan and Maya, which are trying to make consumers | 0:15:00 | 0:15:05 | |
re-engage in energy, make them | 0:15:05 | 0:15:06 | |
much more sort of aware, I suppose, of the fun it brings to our lives. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
With a recent poll showing energy companies less popular than | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
bankers and estate agents, it's a bold strategy for Will. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
The way most of us think about energy | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
is a little more down to earth. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
Hello, you're speaking to Kerry, how can I help? | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
This is the company's customer service call centre in Havant. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
OK, have you got a new tenant in now? | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
Last year it dealt with almost 160,000 complaints | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
about customer service and bills. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
What would you like me to do for you today as a resolution, then? | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
Get this bloody meter out of my garden, right? | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
Because it's absolutely taking the piss out of us, like. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
-OK, right. -This is just time wasted for me. | 0:15:55 | 0:16:00 | |
Despite freezing its prices in March 2014, | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
an SSE customer's average household bill is £1,260 a year. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:08 | |
It's just ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
Staff here have the unenviable job of explaining to customers | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
why their bills are so high. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
I'm actually not going to pay Southern Energy | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
for Southern Electric not doing what they're supposed to do. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
I can hear that you're very unhappy with the service | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
and I am really sorry about that. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
I had to get a really awkward one, didn't I? | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
Right. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
Hello, all. If you're worried, straight to me, is that all right? | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
Lovely. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
As head of call centres, it's Tracey Costley's job to ensure | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
disgruntled customers don't decide to leave the company. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
To do that, she has to make sure her call operators stick to the script. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:52 | |
I'm here to make sure they've got everything | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
they need to look after a customer. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
On the February tariff, | 0:16:58 | 0:16:59 | |
you get that lower gas price as of the day that you sign up for it. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
The energy companies say their bills are high | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
because, over the past decade, wholesale fuel prices have | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
risen and they have to pay levies to Government. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
-Morning all. -Morning. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
But many staff still struggle to deliver the company line. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
What can we do in terms of communication, then, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
to help you help customers more? | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
There's loads and loads of stuff in the media, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
-do you need more around that? -Yeah, I mean, when we get | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
asked about why we aren't cheaper, we're just kind of like, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
"Well, that's just how it is." I think maybe if we had a better | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
idea of where it came from, then we could explain it better to | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
the customers because, at the moment, like, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
I explain it as, "Well we do a lot of renewable energy | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
"and that's why the price is slightly different to | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
"other companies, because of the green levies." | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
But if we had a better idea behind it then maybe that would.... | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
-So more, more...? -More information to give to the customers. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:57 | |
They ask, "Why is it that the gas wholesale price is down, | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
"why aren't our prices down?" | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
But I have no idea what the gas wholesale price is | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
and then they'll say "Your company's made XX amount of money this year, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
"don't you think that's too much money you've made?" Asking my opinion on it | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
and I don't really want to give my opinion because I have no idea | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
if that is a lot of money for a company to make or not. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
Thank you very much, I'll be taking some of this away. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
It's been very helpful, guys, thank you very much indeed. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
Thank you, have a good day, go enjoy, thank you. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
For Tracey, it's all about customer service... | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
..to make consumers feel they're being well looked after | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
and that the prices they're paying are fair. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
It's really hard when you read the media when they go, | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
"These companies are villains." | 0:18:35 | 0:18:40 | |
We're villains, right? Big fat cats and our job | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
in this company is - how can we show customers we want to do better? | 0:18:44 | 0:18:49 | |
We're on that mission. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:50 | |
But Tracey isn't the only one who believes it's not prices | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
that are the problem, it's how they're explained. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
Shall we take our seats, ladies and gentlemen? | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
Back in London, Will has convened a meeting of gurus | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
from across the sector to discuss his latest idea - redesigning | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
the hated energy bill to make it more palatable for customers. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:15 | |
If you open a document and you have a six-page document | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
and it's important, it's a lot of money you're spending | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
and you don't understand it, then that lack of comprehension | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
very quickly translates to mistrust, no-one likes to feel stupid. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
Jason Wakeford from uSwitch, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
the people I was speaking to are really struggling themselves to find | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
various bits that were needed for the comparison on bills | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
and, you know, these are guys and girls | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
who are dealing with this on a daily basis. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
If people don't understand their bill, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
it's a major turn-off to the whole engagement in energy, so that's | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
everything from paying less, using less, to wasting less. So cracking | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
this one is, I think, going to be a real big win on all three fronts. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
Redesigning your bill is...has got some amazing opportunities. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:57 | |
I was involved with Vodafone a few years ago. When Vodafone completely | 0:19:57 | 0:20:02 | |
redesigned its bill, it saved them £5 million worth of paper | 0:20:02 | 0:20:07 | |
every year because they discovered that they were communicating | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
far too much in far too voluminous a way | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
but, most importantly, it saved | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
them something like 90% of calls to the call centre post bill going out. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:23 | |
I think, really, the question I want to ask out of this entire | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
exercise is - what does amazing look like? | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
You know, what does brilliant look like? Because, actually, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
that, for me, would be right back to the beginning | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
of my point, you know, to build trust and confidence. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -How was this morning for you, then? | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
I thought it was really good, actually. It was quite... It is | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
to do with the challenges. When you do get everyone together, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
which is quite challenging in itself, you get a very high quality | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
conversation. I felt they gave us a good mandate to go ahead and do | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
the work on getting those bills much simpler and clearer for customers. | 0:20:55 | 0:21:00 | |
But do you think that's because they don't like the way it's designed... | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
I think a lot of things. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:04 | |
..or they just simply don't like those figures down the bottom? | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
I think... No, I think it is... I mean, people aren't stupid, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:12 | |
they understand that, obviously, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
there's a cost to consuming their utilities. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
But no matter how amazing a bill might look, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
it doesn't mean the customer can afford to pay it. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
Good afternoon, you're through to Charlotte, how can I help? | 0:21:24 | 0:21:29 | |
So we've got the income support, the housing benefit, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
council-tax benefit, DLA for your son and the carer's allowance, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
child benefit, child tax. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
If you are struggling to make those payments, just contact us. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
I haven't asked you what kind of job you do, sir. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
I'm only trying to help you. Obviously, to try | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
and arrange something to prevent the thing going further. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
In 2014 with austerity biting, SSE was owed more than £100 million | 0:21:48 | 0:21:53 | |
in overdue bills by its customers. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
The excuses that people come out with to pay their bills is... | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
There's so many. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:04 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -What sort of thing? | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
Erm...some of them can be, "I'm saving for a holiday." | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
Some of them are vet bills. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
That's not...that's not the payment plan, sir, that's you saying | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
you'll pay £20 a week, OK? That's not a payment plan. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
I deal with elderly people that come through | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
and can't even afford to put their heating on because they don't | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
get enough, they're not entitled to pension credit, they only get | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
their state pension and it's heartbreaking for me to sit here | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
and demand that, "You need to pay this," | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
and I can't do anything for them. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
And if my nan was in that position, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
you know, I don't think I would appreciate it. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
Right, I'm trying to help you, sir. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
Hello? | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
Hello, sir? | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
If customers persistently fall behind with bills | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
and don't answer letters, they could get a visit. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
Sometimes, when you go into somebody's house, maybe | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
they haven't seen anybody for days and some of these people, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
especially older people, they're glad to see me. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
John Samuels is a collections officer in Newport. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
It's not like it was in the old days whereby, straight in, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
cut them off and bye-bye. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
I'm not like a thug or anything, I say, "We are here to help you," | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
and then, once they know that we're there to help them, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
they seem to sort of calm right down. They sometimes ask me | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
for a cup of tea. Sometimes I'll have a quick one | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
but if not I'll just say, "I'm sorry I haven't got any time for tea, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
"I just want to sort your bill out for you." | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
He's calling on customers who've fallen behind on their bills | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
to work out a payment plan. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
Always best to turn your van around for the exit out | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
in case anything happens. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
You never know, there could be a dog lurking behind the door. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
I keep my hand on my dog spray. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
Give it a quick spray. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -Does it work? | 0:23:57 | 0:23:58 | |
It does work, the dog is being sick, he's going to the toilet, | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
he's doing a... Any orifice, it just comes out everywhere, everywhere. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:08 | |
-CHILD: -Hello? -Hello, Swalec. -My mum's just in the bath. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
Can you open this main door, so I can leave your mother a letter | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
if she's busy at the moment? | 0:24:15 | 0:24:16 | |
If customers don't answer the door, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
they're advised by letter to get in touch. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
-There we are. -Thank you. -OK. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
See how that goes now. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:32 | |
And we're off. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:36 | |
My name is John, I'm calling from SSE Swalec. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
Erm... | 0:24:42 | 0:24:43 | |
Well, I don't know what they've done here, it's like Fort Knox. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
People are more reluctant to pay, | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
I suspect they want to keep up with the Joneses. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
-Is it Lyndsey? -It is, yes. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
Yeah, I'm here to talk about your outstanding electricity account. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
Right, OK. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:03 | |
-649. -Ooh... I thought I had it coming out on direct debit. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:09 | |
Lyndsey Jones has accidentally let her direct debit lapse. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
The last payment we received was back in February | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
Lyndsey has been on the company's standard variable tariff | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
for three years. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:23 | |
-£100, can you pay that? -I have cash. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
That should be OK, £100 cash. If I can also read the meter, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
if you don't mind? | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
70% of all energy customers could get cheaper deals | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
by switching suppliers. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
Perhaps they should do a bit more advertising, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
actually make it more widely known to their customers that there | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
are more affordable ways to pay for it rather than putting them on | 0:25:43 | 0:25:48 | |
a tariff that makes them more money rather than benefit their customers. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -70% of customers are on the highest rate, aren't they? | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
What do you put that down to? | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
They can't be bothered to be on the phone because it takes | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
a long time to get through to a supplier and this is what | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
they don't want, so they'd rather pay more and stay where they are. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
I think I can go home. You've had a good day's work out of me today. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
A quarter of our bill goes on paying for and maintaining the lines | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
and wires bringing power to our homes. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
When they fail, as in the storms of 2013, it can be | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
a public-relations disaster. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:44 | |
Good morning, you're through to Alex | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
at Southern Electric Power Distribution, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
how can I help? | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
It's a problem the company must take seriously. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
We did have their network, about 15 minutes ago, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
switch off and then back on again. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:04 | |
Do you know how long this is going to be? Because we've got teenage | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
daughters and we're all going off in different directions | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
but, obviously, if somebody's... I can make sure somebody will be here. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
OK, well, we will call you within the hour. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
There are two entire call centres dedicated to | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
people who've lost power. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
-OK. -All right, then, thank you. -Bye-bye. -Bye-bye. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
They'll be having a meltdown because they can't use their... | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
all their technology. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
Have I gone down the right one? | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
I think so. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
As well as the call centres, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
customer-liaison managers like Andy Griffiths are sent out | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
to those worst affected to smooth ruffled feathers. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
They're not... They're definitely not in yet. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
These are the customers who are affected by the outage today? | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
Yeah, they've had so... Yeah, they're affected by the outage today | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
and they've had, historically, so many issues... | 0:27:59 | 0:28:04 | |
and whenever there is an outage, I do like to pop in and check. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
We had one after another after another | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
after another power cut and no-one's telling you when it's coming back | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
on again and we've got all the men working and all these stories but... | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
But they seem to be addressing it now, to be fair, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
and I think they seem to be on top of it or... | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
Well, they had to, didn't they? | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
Keeping you in the loop when things go wrong, at least. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
Although residents can't choose who manages their network, | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
keeping customers happy here is part of a wider public-relations battle. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
I'm not allowed to speak the truth, I don't think. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
Oh, no, you are, Jane. Oh, you absolutely are, | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
this isn't...propaganda. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
I mean, if you go back to... I mean... | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
Oh, the Christmas... Not this Christmas gone, the one before. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
-..was horrendous, I can't... -All the time. -That was horrendous. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
The whole... I think we were off for five days, over... The day | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
before Christmas Eve, so I've got all my shopping in, | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
it was horrendous. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:06 | |
And this is cos trees were going down in the wind, is that right? | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
Yes, we had a very bad storm, there was | 0:29:09 | 0:29:10 | |
one across the road, wasn't there? | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
-But, in fairness...in fairness to Jane... -We were off five days. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
..the sort of comment that I've had thrown at me | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
is, in many ways, people like Jane forgave us Christmas because it | 0:29:17 | 0:29:22 | |
was a storm of the century, a storm-storm-storm, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:26 | |
it's the 16 other offences | 0:29:26 | 0:29:27 | |
they'd like taken into consideration, is that fair? | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
It was that. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:32 | |
It was just one after another after another after another. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
All caused by the same thing? | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
Yeah, trees, trees coming down here. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
The solution, to fell trees near the power lines, | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
is almost as unpopular with the locals as the cuts themselves. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
Have you seen where they've cut the...? Or, rather, butchered. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
I have...well, show me what you mean. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
I'd like to see quite what you mean, yeah. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
-I'll show you. -Yeah. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
I mean, I can see... | 0:29:59 | 0:30:00 | |
Would you like to get your camera in? | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
There's a slight cut in the back of the trees. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
Let me get out of the way. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
That was a totally overgrown full wood. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:11 | |
Why is it being cut to this extent? | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
Because of the 11,000 volt lines above - you see the lines? | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
And they don't want any fall on that. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
Now, they've done it when there's no birds nesting, you see. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
Yes, but the fox and the deer are not happy, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
they're leaping back over where are our trees... | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
The fox was confused. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
I can imagine. An overtired, confused fox... | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
-Whatever, whatever. -OK. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
He doesn't like fluorescent yellow. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
The goal is to avoid a repeat of the problems of 2013, | 0:30:41 | 0:30:46 | |
so it's a race against time to get trees felled | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
before the bad weather hits. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
If Andy is to succeed, he must persuade landowners | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
to give him access to their properties. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -But this bit doesn't need cutting, where we are now? | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
Yeah, no, they are cutting beyond there, | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
but we'll let them know as we approach. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
One local farmer has been particularly reluctant | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
to lose his trees. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
You know, we need to get on his land | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
and it can all get very fraught, very tense. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
How's you? Good to see you. Are you all right? | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
But today, Andy's charm offensive has been successful. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:21 | |
A bit of timber for you. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
Yeah, well, thanks for that, a little bit of extra firewood. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
First, the energy supply must be switched off. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
It's 11,000 volts we're dealing with up there. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
There's a safety locking device you'll see him operate first, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
which comes down then the switch handle will be operated safely | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
from the ground with insulated rods. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
Every switch on our network is uniquely numbered. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:47 | |
Just check the number again, 9831. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
9831. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
OK and your instruction is to open and apply isolation. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:56 | |
I'm the last farmer here, apart from one very nice fella up there. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -Everybody else is from London, are they? | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
Well, they've got horses and drive around in large Range Rovers | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
with giant shades and do lunch and knock you over on your bike. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:08 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -What happens when the power goes down? | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
Well, they just do lunch for slightly longer. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
Hopefully, finally, we're getting to where we need to be. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
A nice day for it, isn't it? | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
To be seeing this getting done is fantastic. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
I'd like to have gonads the size of the guy up there, I tell you. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
ANDY CHUCKLES | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
They're right monkeys, these guys, aren't they? | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
Yeah, it's probably one of the most skilled jobs that we've got, | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
you know, and the physics involved on those trees are... | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
Particularly in a fork condition | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
where a tree is brought down, equipment... | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
SAW REVS | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
MAN YELLS WARNING | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
I'm sort of quite emotional about it, cos it's... | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
Yeah, no, I can imagine, you know, I can imagine. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
Can never say too much for your cooperation with this today, | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
-brilliant. -No worries. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:09 | |
To see him today, really quite humbled by the work going on here, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
it's been, yeah, quite remarkable and to walk with him just then, | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
you know, it's something he's been... | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
Almost never thought I'd see the day that we'd get the trees cleared | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
through here and to see him walking back up there now, it's... | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
Yeah, God bless him. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
It's January 2015 and the dreaded winter weather has arrived. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
The main concern is that intense rain and those really quite | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
powerful winds, which are likely to be disruptive. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
Thank you for joining the session. This is the safety brief | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
to talk about the overnight arrangements for tonight. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
A cyclone is predicted to strike Britain | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
in the early hours of January 14th. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:09 | |
Bindi, generation? | 0:34:09 | 0:34:10 | |
It's in place, the additional you requested, | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
so it's all there, ready to go. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:14 | |
The company needs to avoid the public relations disaster | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
of last winter. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
I think there's a couple of things we're going to do quite different. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
If we are dealing of wind speeds of around 65-70mph, | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
then that will dictate what actually physically happens | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
out on the network overnight, in terms of safety. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
As Head of Operations, customers' welfare is Bev Keogh's top priority. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:38 | |
I know the majority of customers are sleeping, | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
but there still will be customers up and about that will need to | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
understand when that power is going to get restored. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
It's just important that, tomorrow morning, | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
restoration is focused on the biggest number of customers | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
and we get those on as quickly as possible. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
So thank you all very much and have a good... | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
Try and get a good rest tonight. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -'What are you doing tonight?' | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
Well, what time is it now? So it's 7:40pm, so I'll go home | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
and I will try, on my Dryathalon January, to switch off. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:12 | |
Right, bring it on, we're all ready. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
OK, night, night. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:18 | |
Early next morning, Bev and her team reassemble at HQ, | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
prepared for a busy day. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
I mean, it was windy last night, though, wasn't it? | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
It blew my... I've got a problem with my bedroom window, | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
cos it's not catching. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
Twice it goes, doosh! I was like, "Oh, my God!" | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
PHONE DIALS | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
-RECORDED VOICE: -'You are entering the meeting.' | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
It's time to find out what the damage is across the network. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
All right, now what I'd like to do is, | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
I want to do a region-by-region update. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
Most worrying are the collapse of high voltage lines, or HVs, | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
which can cut off power to whole communities. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
And Matt. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
In Feltham, we've got four HVs with 400 customers off. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
In Oxford, we've got no outstanding HVs. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
OK, that's great. Thanks, Matt. Steve? | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
As we sit, we've got nine HVs currently with customers off supply. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:23 | |
-And numbers of customers? -694 customers. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
OK, thank you. OK, so it's a little bit different from what | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
we've done before, but this is... | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
If you remember, the feedback from customers from Christmas 2013 was, | 0:36:32 | 0:36:37 | |
"We don't want updates every three hours." | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
If a customer is going to be off for the majority of the day, | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
I want to really be brave and tell them that, so they can make | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
alternative arrangements and we can get the welfare out. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
The focus is on restore and then repair. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
Let's get these 2,300 customers back on as quickly as possible | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
and let's keep them informed about what's going on. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
Good morning, you're through to Caroline | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
at Southern Electric Power Distribution, how can I help you? | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
It's a fault on our main network, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:04 | |
so it will be affecting you as well there. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
I'm so sorry to cause an inconvenience | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
to your work day, Martin. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:09 | |
Officially, a loss of power becomes a power cut after three minutes... | 0:37:09 | 0:37:13 | |
It's obviously quite annoying. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
Worst case, you're looking at four to six hours. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
..at which point, Ofgem penalties start to kick in. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
At the call centres, the lines are starting to buzz | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
and the clock is ticking. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
We'll send out engineers to points on the network. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
What I'll do is try and reset the network section by section. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
Across the affected areas, engineers are mobilised. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
Most people just think that electricity comes through a cable | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
in the ground to your house and that's it. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
John Ivy is the linesmen team manager | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
covering this part of Hampshire and Sussex. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -This is sort of badlands for electricity, isn't it? | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
Those 60mph gusts inland will cause us a problem, | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
but it's brought some lines down, so the guys have got to | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
put the lines back up. | 0:37:58 | 0:37:59 | |
There could be a lot of surface water where they're working, | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
this could prove difficult. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
In most areas, electricity lines are looped so that power can be | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
delivered from other directions when a cable is down, but for these | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
rural customers on individual lines, there is simply no backup. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:20 | |
-SATNAV: -'You have reached your destination on your right.' | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
There must be a padlock one there. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
Midhurst in Sussex has already been off for nine hours. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:31 | |
Look, there's a tree on the line down there. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
This will snap that there. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
So once they've cut that, how long do we reckon? | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
-Three, four hours, probably. -Jesus. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
After the storms of 2013, the company paid £2.3 million | 0:38:45 | 0:38:50 | |
in compensation to customers who lost power. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
-MOBILE RINGS -They're going to be a few hours yet. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
-Hello, John Ivy. -'Hi, John, it's Peter.' | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
-Hi, Pete. -'How you doing, you all right, mate?' -Very well. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
We've got a massive span here that dips down into like a valley. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
One of the wires has snapped out of the joint, but it's... | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
You know the cross arms? It's twisted them on both poles | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
so that's the line free now. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
John has to decide if it's worth the cost of a generator | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
to get customers power back on more quickly. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
-In terms of the customer numbers off... -'43 customers. yeah.' | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
43, so not all off of the same transformer? | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
-'No.' -Oh, so how many trans... | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
Nine? | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
Oh, God, quite a few, then. OK, cheers, bye. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:36 | |
What you've got are 47 customers that are still off, | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
but they're fed from nine different transformers... | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
-MOBILE RINGS -..so what you would have to do | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
is connect a generator to each nine... | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
Hi, Ross. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
If Pete goes with the wire, he'll be able to see, won't he? | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
If Pete goes that way... | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
Do you need a bit more? | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
Leave it there. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
Three, two, one. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:02 | |
Three, two, one. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:05 | |
Three, two, one. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
He's got to do the same to that one down there, then, hasn't he? | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
Cos the cross arms... Cross arm on that one? | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
This one's not damaged, I'll change that one. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
-Yeah. -Ideally, I'd change all four, but... | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
This is the pressures that you're under, you're under pressure | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
with the time, you got to do the repair right, | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
otherwise it's just... You're going to have a problem later on. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
The guys are up on the second pole now, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
so this one's connected in and the cross arm's back, so they're | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
just going down to the second one now, so it'll be about two hours. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:40 | |
People just think it's just putting a wire back up. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
You got to change the dishes, you got to put the cable back in, | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
you got to do... You know, it's not a five-minute job. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
You'll come to one part and you'll say, "Oh, there's the damage," | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
and you'll think you found it but you must continue walking the line | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
because there might be another one further down. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
What we've done, we've climbed the hill there, see that switch, | 0:40:59 | 0:41:04 | |
that's where the emus are on guard. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
Two, they've left on guard, | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
and they've just gone out for the day, it's quite amusing. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
Ponies, emus... See, we get it all! | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
-Don't get that in west London, do you? -No, no. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
Good. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:20 | |
Well done, mate, superb. Well done, guys. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
It's 2:00pm and Midhurst has got its power back. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
John is keen to give the good news in person. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
There's nobody in, but if you look through there, | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
the lights have come on, so they've got power. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
Hi, Ross, John Ivy. That's all the customers back on now for Midhurst. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
We've knocked on a couple of doors and spoke to the customers. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
It's all back on. Thank you. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
Across the region, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:52 | |
the linesmen have got the power back on in record time. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
-OK, so, not bad. -I know, it's good. -Not bad. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:01 | |
I bet you were like me at home, keeping track of it. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
Honestly, I'm hopeless, I can't sleep through it at all. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
Although the company has still had to pay compensation to some customers, | 0:42:07 | 0:42:12 | |
it's far less than the previous year | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
and the fiasco of 2013 has been avoided. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
The storm may have been weathered, but two weeks later, | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
dark clouds are gathering again for the energy company. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
The wholesale gas price has plummeted to a five-year low | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
and the big six are under fire once again for not passing on | 0:42:36 | 0:42:40 | |
the cuts to their customers. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
Today, E.ON became the first of the big six energy firms | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
to cut its gas prices by 3.5%. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
OK, the phone lines are closed between 8:00 and 8:45. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
Four of the big six have cut their gas prices | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
and SSE has little choice but to follow suit. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:58 | |
Guys, you don't need to worry about getting yourselves logged on, | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
etc, we've got loads of time this morning. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
The phones won't be touched till staff have been properly briefed. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
You're probably going to need a little seat, guys, | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
cos we're going to be around half an hour. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
The media are saying that the cuts are too little, too late, | 0:43:12 | 0:43:16 | |
and the team needs to have a consistent company line. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:19 | |
We have announced a cut to our gas prices this morning, | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
which is a really, really good news story, isn't it, | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
-when you think about it, guys? -ALL: -Yes. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
Absolutely. So what that means is there's going to be £28 per year | 0:43:26 | 0:43:30 | |
reduction on a typical gas bill. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:32 | |
We are delighted to be cutting our bills for the second time in | 0:43:32 | 0:43:35 | |
13 months, so that's a really good positive message to be giving | 0:43:35 | 0:43:38 | |
to our customers, isn't it, when you think about it? | 0:43:38 | 0:43:40 | |
And we're also guaranteeing these low prices until July 2016 at least | 0:43:40 | 0:43:45 | |
and if we can cut again, we absolutely will, yeah? | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
-Is everyone keeping up so far? -ALL: -Yeah. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
Yeah? Oh, fabulous, OK. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
We're also the only supplier to offer customers this additional | 0:43:53 | 0:43:57 | |
peace of mind and it very much fits in with our model | 0:43:57 | 0:44:00 | |
of treating our customers fairly. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:03 | |
So what's your thoughts on that, then, guys? | 0:44:03 | 0:44:05 | |
It's great. It's positive. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:07 | |
Yeah? | 0:44:07 | 0:44:09 | |
Isn't that amazing, when you think about it? | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
Though prices are coming down, there's a catch. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
Some of the mechanics behind it is | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
we're obviously cutting the customers in from the 30th of April. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:23 | |
The cut won't come into effect until the spring... | 0:44:23 | 0:44:27 | |
after the cold weather. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
If we can, I think what would be a great idea is | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
putting escalation vests on this morning as well, | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
so that we can make sure we're being consistent with our approach back. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:39 | |
Fab, thanks, guys. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:41 | |
The escalation team are there to help if telephone staff | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
get asked awkward questions. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
Social media is already buzzing with the new price cuts. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:52 | |
The first one is saying, "Yahoo!" | 0:44:53 | 0:44:55 | |
Yahoo. So I'm just going to what... | 0:44:55 | 0:44:58 | |
We do what we call tagging, so tagging this person and I'm clicking | 0:44:58 | 0:45:02 | |
it as a positive sentiment, that's brilliant, that's great. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:06 | |
But the next one is negative, so I'll go back to them. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:10 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -What it's saying? | 0:45:10 | 0:45:11 | |
"Saving £20 a year, whooo, | 0:45:11 | 0:45:13 | |
"looking after themselves, not their customers." | 0:45:13 | 0:45:17 | |
Morning, NC, just a reminder, if you've had your brief, | 0:45:17 | 0:45:21 | |
if you can get online and available, that would be brilliant. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:24 | |
We've got lots of customers waiting to speak to us, the phone lines | 0:45:24 | 0:45:27 | |
are going to go live again in a wee minute, OK? | 0:45:27 | 0:45:29 | |
All ready? | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
Yay, thanks, guys. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
Good morning, you're through to Daniel at SSE, how can I help? | 0:45:34 | 0:45:39 | |
Our prices have dropped and they will be dropped on 30th April. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:43 | |
Saving 4.1% on a typical gas bill. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:46 | |
-'That's all right, that, isn't it?' -Yeah! | 0:45:46 | 0:45:49 | |
And we've also agreed to keep that gas price and electric prices | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
the same until July 2016 for you. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:54 | |
Was there anything else that I could do for you today? | 0:45:54 | 0:45:56 | |
'You've done everything you can for me, my love, thank you very much.' | 0:45:56 | 0:45:59 | |
Lovely. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
Call centre staff are getting a positive response from customers. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:07 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -So are you a happy bunny? | 0:46:07 | 0:46:09 | |
Yes, I am, yeah. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
I'm away to put a wee high five on for my team for how well they've | 0:46:12 | 0:46:15 | |
done this morning, so it seems to have pulled together well so far. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:19 | |
And a big high five to you guys as well for organising it this morning. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
Woo, high five! OK, thanks very much, guys. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:26 | |
It's been a hectic day for call centre staff | 0:46:28 | 0:46:32 | |
and Chief Executive Alistair Phillips-Davies | 0:46:32 | 0:46:36 | |
is on hand to show his appreciation. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:38 | |
Hi, nice to meet you. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:40 | |
Put your high five on, we're going to get a photograph taken, | 0:46:40 | 0:46:42 | |
-Jess has come in with the photograph. -There you go. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:45 | |
This is mainly because Dawn has been voted this month... | 0:46:45 | 0:46:48 | |
Brilliant. Are you going to get a new reward for this, | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
like a box of chocolates or something? | 0:46:50 | 0:46:52 | |
-Yeah, hopefully. -Hopefully. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:54 | |
But no matter how well the price cuts have been handled, | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
they'll put an unexpected dent in Alistair's profits. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
-There you go, excellent. -Yay. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
Our issue is that, you know, we've bought a load of gas | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
and other fuels now that are looking expensive and we, you know, | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
we've got to weigh that loss for our customers. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:11 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -And you say it's going to cost you 60 million, | 0:47:11 | 0:47:13 | |
-is that right? -Yeah, it'll take a bit over 60 million | 0:47:13 | 0:47:15 | |
off our income for next year. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
Presumably people would throw at you, if you could live without | 0:47:17 | 0:47:19 | |
that 60 million, why weren't you living without that 60 million? | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
Well, it's about the long-term health of our business, | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
so how do we invest in the long-term health of our business, basically? | 0:47:25 | 0:47:29 | |
We have to run a profitable business cos many people's pension funds | 0:47:29 | 0:47:32 | |
are invested in it and, you know, again, you know, we're there | 0:47:32 | 0:47:36 | |
paying wages for 20,000 people up and down the UK. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:40 | |
We need to be able to do that, | 0:47:40 | 0:47:42 | |
but sometimes you have to take a little bit of pain in that. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:46 | |
Alistair's bottom line will take the hit, but he won't be alone. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:50 | |
For all the big six, profits are under pressure across the board | 0:47:52 | 0:47:56 | |
and not just from fluctuating prices. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
Government efforts to make us use less energy have been successful - | 0:47:59 | 0:48:03 | |
it's down nearly 20% since 2000. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:06 | |
This may be good news for the country as a whole, but if selling power | 0:48:08 | 0:48:11 | |
is your business, it poses a problem. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:13 | |
Thank you. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:18 | |
As head of the company's retail business, | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
it's a problem Will needs to address. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
I need to make sure I'm making the right profits to deliver | 0:48:24 | 0:48:27 | |
the targets so I can actually invest in the business. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:29 | |
I can try, as I have been trying, to be more engaging in our advertising | 0:48:29 | 0:48:34 | |
and show the more emotionally attractive sides of energy, | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
but that only goes so far. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:39 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:40 | |
The plan is to diversify and find alternative ways of generating income | 0:48:40 | 0:48:45 | |
by selling us other products as well as energy. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:49 | |
One of the challenges we have with having our new character is that | 0:48:49 | 0:48:52 | |
she's very compelling, I'm talking about Maya here, our orang-utan, | 0:48:52 | 0:48:55 | |
and therefore people basically look in wonderment at her, | 0:48:55 | 0:48:58 | |
to the point actually sometimes they may not necessarily hear | 0:48:58 | 0:49:01 | |
what we're saying. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:03 | |
In her second appearance, Maya is going to be selling broadband. | 0:49:03 | 0:49:07 | |
The central theme for the campaign will be lower, longer, more. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
And the voiceover says, | 0:49:11 | 0:49:12 | |
"Are you searching for an energy company that offers great value, | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
"one that keeps its prices lower... | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
"freezes them for longer | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
"and gives you more, with two years' free unlimited broadband?" | 0:49:21 | 0:49:25 | |
When was the last time somebody gave two years' free broadband? | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
It's market leading. On the back wall, we project our theme, | 0:49:28 | 0:49:31 | |
"Lower, longer, more." | 0:49:31 | 0:49:33 | |
The new Maya commercial won't come cheap | 0:49:33 | 0:49:36 | |
and Will must make every penny count. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:39 | |
I can't even see it from here and I'm staring at it. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
-They are bigger than that. -I don't think you could read the logo, | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
you certainly can't read the website. A bit black and white, | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
even though it's supposed to be in colour. I don't want to art direct | 0:49:47 | 0:49:50 | |
the advertising, but I don't think it's particularly visually, | 0:49:50 | 0:49:53 | |
you know, compelling in terms of the creative. It's dark... | 0:49:53 | 0:49:58 | |
The copy should sort of talk about it's for all our customers, | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
"If you'd like to be part of our family," or something, | 0:50:01 | 0:50:03 | |
it's obviously where an invitation to join comes in. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:07 | |
It's worth playing around with it, Steven. I just don't think | 0:50:07 | 0:50:10 | |
the execution is nice, I think it doesn't feel sufficiently... | 0:50:10 | 0:50:13 | |
I don't want, if you like... The brand launch was quite sort of | 0:50:13 | 0:50:16 | |
beautifully done, it was very glossy, it was very emotional, | 0:50:16 | 0:50:20 | |
which is good. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:21 | |
This, I think, needs to be much more... | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
I see like a giant "2" all over the place, you know, something much | 0:50:24 | 0:50:27 | |
more, sort of... I think you both said it sounds a bit tacky, | 0:50:27 | 0:50:30 | |
but something much more sort of sales promotional, | 0:50:30 | 0:50:33 | |
-rather than just brandy. -OK. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:35 | |
I would suggest. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:37 | |
Thank you, Steven. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:39 | |
If Will is to hit his targets, Maya needs to deliver... | 0:50:39 | 0:50:46 | |
Did anyone make you aware, whoever it was going through | 0:50:46 | 0:50:48 | |
the process with you, of our telephone and broadband packages? | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
..and with less energy being used, | 0:50:51 | 0:50:53 | |
call centre staff are also expected to sell, sell, sell. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:58 | |
Are you aware that we do telephone and broadband? | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
But since the mis-selling scandal of 2013, | 0:51:01 | 0:51:05 | |
they no longer cold-call customers. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
Good morning, you're through to Hannah at SSE, | 0:51:08 | 0:51:10 | |
thank you for holding, how can I help you today? | 0:51:10 | 0:51:13 | |
They wait for customers to call in with a problem. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:16 | |
Just to mention to yourself a few things that we do have to offer | 0:51:16 | 0:51:19 | |
and hopefully save you a bit of money, but did you know that | 0:51:19 | 0:51:22 | |
we do provide boiler cover as well? | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
The customer service and marketing departments are now | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
effectively one and the same. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:30 | |
Did you want to get some prices and so forth to see what we can do | 0:51:30 | 0:51:33 | |
for your boiler cover? | 0:51:33 | 0:51:35 | |
We have a system called Sat-Nav, which pretty much just... | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
When you put their account number in, it gives you options | 0:51:38 | 0:51:40 | |
that you can ask the customer about, things to offer. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:43 | |
Is there anything else that I can help you with at all? | 0:51:43 | 0:51:46 | |
No? | 0:51:46 | 0:51:47 | |
That does help you out to go back, | 0:51:47 | 0:51:49 | |
"Oh, yeah, did you know that we do this, did you know that we do that?" | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
When was the last time it was serviced? | 0:51:52 | 0:51:54 | |
'I wouldn't know, cos I've only been in here since October.' | 0:51:54 | 0:51:57 | |
Oh, right, since October. | 0:51:57 | 0:51:59 | |
We're not salespeople, we're just giving them an option to say that | 0:51:59 | 0:52:01 | |
there is other things that we do do. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:03 | |
And why not grow the business? | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
I mean, we are a business, we're here to make money, aren't we? | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
So it's one of them things. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:10 | |
When you've sorted it all out and everything, just keep us in mind | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
because, you know, I mean, we might sort you out with a good deal. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
I'm just going to work out for you roughly how much your bill will be | 0:52:15 | 0:52:19 | |
and, if you like, I can see if there's any other ways at all | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
we can save you any money on your account while I've got you. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:25 | |
-Do you have access to the internet at all? -'No, love.' | 0:52:25 | 0:52:27 | |
You don't. OK, no, that's absolutely fine. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:30 | |
Talk of broadband, shield, | 0:52:30 | 0:52:32 | |
anything that you have to, like, kind of sign yourself into, | 0:52:32 | 0:52:36 | |
they're all scripted, it's an actual script that you have to | 0:52:36 | 0:52:39 | |
run through bit by bit. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:41 | |
So you get £100 worth of shopping vouchers in with the tariff as well. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
'I'll stick as I am, love.' | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
I find it really difficult to bring it across without sounding | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
really sales-y, like, "Oh, by the way, did you hear about this?" | 0:52:49 | 0:52:53 | |
For Head of Call Centres Tracey Costley and her teams, | 0:52:56 | 0:53:00 | |
integrating sales and customer service is a challenge. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:04 | |
I hate being tagged onto the back of a normal call, | 0:53:04 | 0:53:07 | |
someone trying to do something more with me, so we're really careful | 0:53:07 | 0:53:10 | |
the way it doesn't... We don't want it to sound like that, | 0:53:10 | 0:53:13 | |
cos it's awful, so if at the right time, right in the middle | 0:53:13 | 0:53:17 | |
of the call, not at the end of the call, they'll say, "We might have | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
"something to talk about later with you, is that OK? | 0:53:20 | 0:53:22 | |
"We might be able to save you some money?" | 0:53:22 | 0:53:24 | |
So they sort of ask for the customer's permission, | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
cos if you don't ask for permission, it's really irritating. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:30 | |
I don't feel like we've got many here today, | 0:53:30 | 0:53:32 | |
it doesn't feel like we've got many here today. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
Today Tracey's hosting a "Lunch and Learn" for her troops. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:39 | |
Good morning, good morning, everyone. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:41 | |
Good afternoon, actually, how are we all? | 0:53:41 | 0:53:44 | |
All right, good, we're a bit short today... | 0:53:44 | 0:53:46 | |
And while they're lunching, the teams will be learning | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
whether their hard work on customer service has paid off. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:52 | |
Results of the latest external satisfaction survey are in. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:58 | |
How do you feel that we've done as a customer service | 0:53:58 | 0:54:01 | |
and sales organisation? | 0:54:01 | 0:54:03 | |
If you feel that we've done better than last year, put your hand up. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:08 | |
OK, thanks, Andy. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:13 | |
Who thinks we've done better on complaints this year than last year? | 0:54:13 | 0:54:18 | |
OK, yeah. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:20 | |
You're right, OK. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:22 | |
Who thinks we've done better around telephones this year, | 0:54:22 | 0:54:25 | |
answering phones, than last year? | 0:54:25 | 0:54:27 | |
It's really interesting, there's a few, you're right, OK. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
I'm going to show you how we've done externally for the last 12 months | 0:54:32 | 0:54:36 | |
and you might be surprised, apart from one of you, all right? | 0:54:36 | 0:54:40 | |
Five out of six consumer groups | 0:54:42 | 0:54:44 | |
have put SSE number one for customer services. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:48 | |
I just need to make sure everyone knows how we've done. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:52 | |
Brilliant, bloody brilliant, right? This is really good stuff. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:55 | |
So, my lovely service team, you've done better | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
and that's really bloody good. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:00 | |
After a tough year, it's a result for Tracey and her teams. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:05 | |
Right, we're going to love and leave you. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:07 | |
Thank you very much, guys, thank you. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:10 | |
If we can make a customer go, "Do you know what? | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
"I'd rather be with a company that looks after us for £2 a month more | 0:55:14 | 0:55:19 | |
"than be with a company that doesn't," then maybe that's us. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:23 | |
Maybe that's us. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:25 | |
I'd like to think it is. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:27 | |
It's 7:00am on the day the company's yearly profits are announced. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:36 | |
It's a big story and Chief Executive Alistair Phillips-Davies | 0:55:38 | 0:55:42 | |
is doing the rounds of news studios. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:44 | |
What time does the BBC breakfast go out, 7:50? | 0:55:44 | 0:55:47 | |
Yeah, 7:50. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:50 | |
Right, OK, that's cool. | 0:55:50 | 0:55:53 | |
Higher profits are a double-edged sword for Alistair. | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
Shareholders will be pleased, | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
but he's likely to get a roasting in the media. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:01 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -What do you expect from the media this morning? | 0:56:01 | 0:56:04 | |
What do I expect? Er... | 0:56:04 | 0:56:07 | |
Well, I'm sure they'll be interested in results and profits, | 0:56:07 | 0:56:11 | |
they always are. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:13 | |
I'm not sure I'm going to make people love the energy sector, | 0:56:13 | 0:56:15 | |
I'm not really... I'm not like the rock star getting on stage here | 0:56:15 | 0:56:19 | |
and, you know, hitting the first chord of a great song. | 0:56:19 | 0:56:23 | |
One, two, three, four, five. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:27 | |
It's Alistair Phillips-Davies, yes. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:29 | |
End-of-year figures show that Will's Maya ad campaign | 0:56:29 | 0:56:33 | |
and the hard work of the sales teams have paid off. | 0:56:33 | 0:56:35 | |
Profits in the all-important retail sector are up 40%. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:42 | |
I think it's been a mixed bag | 0:56:42 | 0:56:44 | |
in what's been a pretty challenging year. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:46 | |
'Let me ask you then, retail operating profits up by almost 40%, | 0:56:46 | 0:56:51 | |
'wholesale gas prices down 17% year on year, | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
'these numbers are going to surprise people, aren't they?' | 0:56:54 | 0:56:57 | |
Well, for us, retail profits are up on last year, | 0:56:57 | 0:57:01 | |
but actually, they've just got back to the level they were in '12-13. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:05 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -So, come on, give us the post-match analysis. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:08 | |
Well, it's for somebody else to say, | 0:57:08 | 0:57:09 | |
I don't like marking my own homework generally, so... But I'm not sure | 0:57:09 | 0:57:13 | |
we're wildly doing different things that we were never doing before, | 0:57:13 | 0:57:17 | |
but I think we spend a bit more time communicating it now, | 0:57:17 | 0:57:19 | |
or worrying about how we put that message across. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:22 | |
People were definitely more sceptical and aggressive a year, | 0:57:22 | 0:57:27 | |
18 months ago and maybe they had a right to do that, | 0:57:27 | 0:57:29 | |
but hopefully we've earned the right to have a better hearing. | 0:57:29 | 0:57:32 | |
By the time I get home at 8:30 tonight, I'll... | 0:57:32 | 0:57:36 | |
I'll crack open a pint... | 0:57:36 | 0:57:39 | |
In reality, it'll probably be a glass of wine. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:42 | |
Try putting together your own power grid | 0:58:16 | 0:58:18 | |
with the Open University's "Power My Postcode" interactive tool. | 0:58:18 | 0:58:22 | |
Go to bbc.co.uk/powertothepeople and follow the links. | 0:58:22 | 0:58:26 |