Episode 1 School Swap: Korea Style


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What does it take to have the best schools in the world?

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To find out, three Welsh teenagers will swap their classroom,

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teachers and even their parents to experience life on the opposite side

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of the globe.

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In Gangnam in South Korea...

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# Gangnam style... #

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..here, pupils work long hours.

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Teachers can become millionaires...

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HE SPEAKS KOREAN

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..and parents plough a small fortune into private tuition for their kids.

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This is extreme education.

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But South Korean schools are ranked as some of the best in the world.

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I'm Sian Griffiths, education editor at the Sunday Times and next month,

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the big news story will be the results from the international

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ranking system for schools, known as Pisa.

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According to international rankings,

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our registration system is so far behind that of countries like South Korea.

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I want to know - what would it take for Welsh schools to compete

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and be at the top of those rankings?

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And to do that, I need some help.

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So for three days,

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three Welsh teenagers will live and breathe Korean education to find out

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the secret to their success.

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I honestly couldn't keep my eyes open.

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This is School Swap, Korean style.

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St Davids in Pembrokeshire is the smallest city in Britain.

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This is where I grew up and went to school.

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Here, I got the grades to go to Oxford to studying English.

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And back then, the quality of Wales's education system was renowned.

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But something has changed.

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So I want three students from my old school to help me find out what.

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I'm sending them to one of the best and toughest education systems

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in the world today - South Korea.

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I'm looking forward to experiencing it

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but I honestly don't know how they cope.

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Some days, I'll only have two lessons in the morning

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or sometimes I have triple lessons at the end of the day,

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so I can have a lie-in in the morning.

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I do like the social part of school

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but I don't really enjoy the educational side of it.

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Some might say that I like my PlayStation a bit more,

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or playing sports with my friends a bit more than studying.

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School for me is about, yeah,

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it's where you come along and you see your friends every day

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but it's also about knuckling down - and actually getting some work done.

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I want to get the best, I want to be the best.

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And I think that all starts with education.

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I want to go to Korea, because I want to know why they are doing

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so much better in education than we are

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and what they have that we don't.

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Three very different kids

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but how will they take to the super-tough system of South Korea?

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# Everybody is kung-fu fighting... #

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Our three Welsh teenagers are travelling 6,000 miles

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from Pembrokeshire to the capital of South Korea, Seoul.

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# A little bit frightening

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# It's the book of your life that you're writing... #

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For three days, I've arranged for them to be totally immersed in Korean school and teenage life.

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And they need to look the part, too.

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Looks like you're going to play cricket.

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So first stop is the local school-uniform shop.

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HE LAUGHS

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-I feel like an air hostess!

-You look like one!

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Oh, my goodness!

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Most schools in this area are single-sex schools

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so the three will have to split up.

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Tommy and Ewan will attend Dankook,

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an all-boys high school in the most affluent neighbourhood in Gangnam.

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The school is surrounded by expensive high-rise flats

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with Korean parents spending a fortune to move into the school's catchment.

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Mine is a very posh school and I have a feeling they're going to be really strict.

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Sarah will attend the nearby all-girls school, Suhmoon.

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Over 1,500 girls attend this high school,

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and it's one of the best in Gangnam

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with strict rules on uniform and appearance.

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'Our three Welsh students will also be staying with a Korean family but

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'before they head off,

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'I want to know if they're ready for the challenge.'

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Do you already know any Korean?

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Have you learnt any in the few hours you've been here?

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I've picked up a little bit, I mean, like...

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HE SPEAKS KOREAN

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..is, like, "thank you".

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And Tommy knows the way to, like, introduce yourself.

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Yeah, when you greet someone, you say...

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HE SPEAKS KOREAN

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-Sarah?

-I'm useless! I've been relying on these two.

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OK, well, good luck, all three of you.

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-Off you go.

-Can't wait!

-Cheers.

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Sarah, Tommy and Ewan now split up and head off to meet their Korean

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classmates for the first time.

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They know nothing about their host families and the nerves are

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definitely starting to show.

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Yeah, a bit nervous, but should be good to meet them.

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I think nervous doesn't quite cut it!

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Do I press here?

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What do I do? This one?

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Ah, here we go.

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OK.

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Ooh!

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-Hello!

-Nice to meet you.

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Sarah will be staying with 16-year-old Seon.

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When she was young, Seon went to a school for gifted children and her favourite subject is maths.

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That's the living room.

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-OK.

-And the dining room.

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-Yeah.

-And that's the kitchen.

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Oh, my gosh! Actually here!

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Meanwhile, on the other side of town,

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Tommy is going up in the world.

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-Hello. Hi.

-Tommy! Nice to meet you.

-Nice to meet you.

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Tommy's Korean classmate is Min Young.

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He has a bird's eye view of Seoul from his 36th-floor apartment.

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And there's an 86-inch television to amuse him.

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Ooh, you've got a home cinema.

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That's really cool! That's a lovely view as well.

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Ewan is the last to meet his Korean counterpart, Young Chan.

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-Hello.

-Hello, hello.

-HE SPEAKS KOREAN

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There's no television here.

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Young Chan's parents believe it's a barrier to good education.

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This is a really nice house.

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-You've made the most of the space as well. It's really good.

-Yeah.

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Both are top students in their class

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and it's not long before they check out each other's maths homework

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and musical skills.

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HE PLAYS A JAUNTY TUNE

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THEY LAUGH

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HE PLAYS A JAUNTY TUNE

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APPLAUSE

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First impressions, I don't stand a chance.

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He's amazing! He can play the piano backwards, for Christ's sake!

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I don't stand a chance.

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Finally here, I'm finally here and it's crazy. It's really good.

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I look like an idiot now!

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You just tap your head.

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Tomorrow, our three Welsh students are going to discover why Korean education

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is the toughest in the world.

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What time does school start tomorrow?

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We need to be there by eight.

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Eight? All right, OK. Yeah. Eight o'clock, so quite an early start.

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But it's all right.

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I think it's math, English and history.

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-OK.

-And then we're going to have dinner at school and then

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we're going to have, like, extracurricular stuff.

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We stay there until, like, ten.

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Ten o'clock at night?

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-Ten, yes.

-OK.

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I'm normally fast asleep at ten o'clock.

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But I think I can change for a couple of days.

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I don't think I'm prepared for this.

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6.45 in the morning and in Young Chan's house, there's no sign of Ewan.

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Hello? Ewan?

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It's already, like, a quarter before seven.

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Sorry. I fell back to sleep.

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-That's normal.

-Yeah.

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Over at Seon's house,

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it's a different kind of wake-up call for Sarah over breakfast.

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We have this bag in each class for us to put our phones in.

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-What, we have to give our phones in?

-Yes.

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You're not even just allowed to turn them off and put them in...?

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No. I guess you can, but if the teacher finds out, they'll take it

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for a week and a half...to a month. It depends on the teacher.

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-They can take your phone off you for that long?

-Yeah.

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Oh, my God!

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I did wake up and I just fell back asleep.

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Ready for school now. Apparently, I might be out until 11.30 at night, so...

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Could be quite interesting!

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While Sarah and Ewan make their way to their respective schools,

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over at Min Young's house, Tommy's only just getting up.

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I don't usually function at this time.

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God, you get better weather here than we do.

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Much better. This is, like,...

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This is, like, actually quite a nice day!

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It gets a bit tiring after lunch.

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I think I'll be tired before lunch!

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Because Tommy got up so late, his Korean classmate is worried.

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Are we going to be there on time? I think...

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He's never been late to school before.

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I'll catch up. Don't worry.

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In Dankook high school,

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punishment for missing the bell is coming in even earlier

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to clean the corridors and classrooms.

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With seconds to spare,

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both have avoided mopping-up duties - for today, at least.

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Sarah is creating a bit of a stir over at Suhmoon girls' school.

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Being the only blonde in school can make you quite a celebrity!

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I'm not normally awake until about quarter to eight.

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It's too strange. Too early!

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It's ten to eight, and first up, it's English...

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..and a gentle easing-in for Tommy, Ewan and Sarah.

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-RECORDING:

-'Well, I'm not very familiar with that genre of music.

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'I cut myself when I shaved this morning.

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'Maybe you can shave in the shower.

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'Hmm. Sounds like a good idea.'

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More than 99% of Korean students choose to stay in school after they turn 16,

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compared to only 50% back home in Wales.

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For the next three years,

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they prepare for a make-or-break exam to get into a good university.

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While I wait to see if they kids survive their first day,

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I've been looking around the local area

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and come across this Buddhist temple.

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This sign is pretty interesting.

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It's inviting people to come and do 3,000 bows or prayers

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overnight this Saturday, for...

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guess what? Good exam results!

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These mothers are praying for good results in the end-of-term exams.

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Each prayer book has a picture of their child.

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And on the roof of the temple,

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the light stays on in the family's lantern

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until the child reaches university.

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In the temple courtyard,

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the mothers burn old textbooks to destroy any possible bad luck

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in the looming exams.

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It is this religious devotion to education that has helped transform

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South Korea's fortunes.

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60 years ago, nearly 80% of the population here was illiterate.

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Today, South Korea is an economic giant.

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They did all that through education.

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CHANTING

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So how good are they?

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I've arranged a test for the boys in Dankook school.

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-Good morning. ALL:

-Good morning!

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Today, you're going to be sitting a Welsh GCSE maths exam.

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THEY LAUGH

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You have 60 minutes and your time starts...now!

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It's usually a two-hour-long paper but we've randomly selected

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half the questions to fit this exam into 60 minutes.

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In my maths exam, I got an A*.

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A*, yeah.

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I was told to aim for full marks.

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So...

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After only 15 minutes,

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some of the Korean students have already finished the paper.

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But even on his second attempt, GCSE maths is still a headache for Tommy.

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For my GCSEs, I got two A*s, four As, four Bs, and a C.

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I thought I did quite well, considering the amount of work I did.

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The only grade that I would've liked to have got higher was a C in maths.

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I would've liked to get that up to a B, but it is what it is.

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OK, so can I just ask you all -

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can you put your hands up if you found that paper difficult?

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Oh! LAUGHTER

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OK, so can I ask you now,

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can you put your hands up if you found that paper really easy?

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OK!

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Everybody found it really easy.

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That was really interesting.

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None of those South Korean teenagers found that paper difficult.

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Most of them finished it in about 15 minutes.

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It was supposed to take an hour.

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I'm not really surprised,

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because the teacher said that paper was primary school level maths for

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those children. It just shows how far we've got to go to catch up in Wales.

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Thousands of children in Wales - not just in Wales, across the UK -

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would have failed that paper this summer.

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That says a lot about where we are and how much we've got to do.

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I asked them and they thought the exam was very easy.

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And I said, "Well, some people in our class had failed that,"

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and they said, "Well, that's astounding."

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So I just think they work harder, they go over it and then,

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an exam they'd had never studied for before, they just did it straight through,

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so, yeah, amazing.

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Korean teenagers are exam-busting machines

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and are among the top performing students in the world.

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We know this because of the Pisa tests.

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Every three years,

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15-year-olds in 68 different countries sit the same exams in maths, science and reading.

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In maths, Asian countries like South Korea consistently come out on top.

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But in the last results in 2012,

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Wales was in the bottom third of the league -

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43rd out of 68 countries.

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One obvious difference here is the long hours they put in.

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Sarah is struggling to stay awake.

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Others have just given up but still, the teacher carries on.

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I feel really bad, because I've gone really sleepy now

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and I was just like... Ooh!

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At least there's one similarity between Wales and South Korea -

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they do have school dinners!

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In Seoul, all kids up to 16 years old have three school meals.

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But you won't find any chips being dished out there.

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Korean school dinners are hailed as some of the healthiest in the world.

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Plenty of rice, soup and gut-friendly fermented cabbage called kimchi.

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Oh, yeah. Rice.

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It's really nice. It's sort of like a stew, sort of thing.

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But there's less stew to it, and more meat and veg, and stuff.

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It's really tasty. Really tasty.

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With their bellies full,

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it's back to the classroom and our Welsh students are actually

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getting a taste for Korean-style lessons.

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The method of teaching out here is,

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they give it to you in black and white and you memorise it and you learn it

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but that does not necessarily mean that you understand it.

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What stuck out to me a lot is in class, they don't even talk to each other.

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It's just bizarre.

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The school here is better in terms of the results,

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but are they really living a life that a young person should be?

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I'm not so sure.

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In response to such criticisms,

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the principal of the boys' school has introduced a school sports day

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to tackle the problems of stressed-out and tired students.

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This is one of the best schools in Seoul

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and South Korea is at the top

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of the international rankings for education.

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But do you feel that this kind of sports day is necessary to give them

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some kind of release from that pressure?

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Yeah. That's a part of the reason I do this with these kids because,

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you know, like, this time never comes back.

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You know, like, this is a beautiful time of our life.

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-Mmm.

-But, you know,

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they are kind of, like, squeezed under a big load of pressure.

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-Mmm.

-Their day is probably, like, six till 12 or something.

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6am in the morning to midnight?

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-Yeah.

-To midnight! Whoa!

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So they're getting about six hours' sleep?

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Six hours' sleep. That's a very, like, insufficient.

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So we've been seeing some children asleep, actually,

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nodding off in lessons.

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What do you do when you see children doing that?

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Actually, I tap the glass, I mean, the window of the classroom,

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and I try to wake them up, by, like, sending my finger signal to them.

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-Does it work?

-Yeah, it is working.

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-Yeah.

-Eventually, probably that's going to damage their, like,

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efficiency of their studies.

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-Right.

-Cos if they need a sleep, they kind of lack sleep.

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So that's part of the reason we're doing this.

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It's kind of, like, some activities to release their stress.

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The final event of the day is rope skipping and Tommy's been given the

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responsibility for swinging the rope for his team.

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I actually quite nervous. I don't want to get it wrong.

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Look how many people are watching.

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I'm petrified!

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CHEERING

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Look how wrong it can go!

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Next up, it's Tommy's team.

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Yay! Yay!

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Yay!

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Come on!

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HE SHOUTS ENCOURAGEMENT

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CHEERING

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Most of the Korean students don't know anything about Wales.

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That's until they see the flag.

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There's one famous Welsh footballer and everyone knows his name.

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ALL: Gareth Bale! Gareth Bale! Gareth Bale!

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CHEERING

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20 minutes past four and the bell rings for the boys.

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Over at the girls' school, the lessons may have ended but now

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it's time for after-school study.

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Ten hours in and Sarah's sitting in the same classroom in the same chair.

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I feel really bad but I honestly couldn't keep my eyes open during that lesson.

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It's all getting too much for Sarah.

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So her Korean classmate Seon comes to the rescue.

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We're going to get you to go to the nurse's office.

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There are a lot of beds there, so you can take a rest!

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I feel so bad!

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And after that, we can go to my extracurricular class and then we go home.

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Oh, I feel bad going into the nurse's room.

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I should just... I should be awake but I'm just so genuinely tired.

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As night falls on Seoul,

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Ewan and Young Chan make their way to a five-hour self-studying session in the local public library.

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At the moment, we're waiting to get into the library.

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I was amazed that there could be so many people all in there at once

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and the fact that they're all exquisitely silent.

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There was even kids in there studying, about ten years old.

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It's surprising, but it shows the work ethic Korean people have and it's just impressive.

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It's amazing.

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Studying for 14 to 16 hours a day is normal for Young Chan.

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This is his way of staying at the very top of the class.

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I found that if you review your school works,

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what you've learned on that day, then it really helps you a lot,

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so the library where I study, near my house,

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it only opens until ten,

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so if I want to study more, and, like, finishing my work,

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then I just come back to school and, yeah, stay here until 12.

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My parents' influence is the biggest part,

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cos my dad grew up in the countryside.

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He had a really poor background and he, like,

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studied really hard and he made it into Seoul.

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If he can do that, then maybe I can study more.

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But, like, second purpose is that it's really kind of happy

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when you get good results from, like, studying.

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It's really not comparable with any other achievement.

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Yeah, that's what drives me to study.

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When they're not self-studying in libraries,

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most Korean students go to private night schools called hagwons.

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This area of Gangnam has over 1,000 of these hagwons.

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Min Young is taking Tommy to his English hagwon -

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a two-hour top-up lesson in English grammar.

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I've arranged to meet Tommy at his hagwon

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and on my way over in the taxi,

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the driver has plenty to say about the role hagwons play in society here.

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This is mathematics hagwon and this is English hagwon

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and this is mathematics hagwon.

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This is a street of hagwons, really.

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-Yeah.

-This is hagwon street.

-Yes, yes, that's right.

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And the children come here what time after school?

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-Five o'clock?

-About five o'clock to 12 o'clock.

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So at midnight, this street will be full of children?

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Yes. Yes. Yes.

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It's crazy.

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'Byung Hoon has sent all of his three children to hagwons.'

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So, when you have three children in the hagwons,

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how much is that costing you?

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Almost 2,000 per month.

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2,000!

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Per month. For the...mathematics.

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How many hours do you have to work to pay for the hagwon?

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About 14 hours.

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-14 hours a day?

-15 hours in a day.

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-How many days a week?

-Er, six days a week.

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Six days a week, you're working 14 hours a day?

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-Yes.

-So you never see your children. When do you see your children?

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Very hard to see children.

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-Oh!

-Yes.

-Oh, it's a high price to pay for hagwons.

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Yes. Yes, that's right. That's true.

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Korean parents spend more on private education for their kids

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than any other country in the world.

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It's almost an addiction here.

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The government has even placed a ten o'clock curfew on the hagwons,

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to try and control their influence.

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To keep the kids out of private education,

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the girls' school offers its own version of a hagwon.

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But it's all too much for Sarah.

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We were supposed to stay until ten but I've actually been really tired

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so, luckily, we've been let out a bit earlier but, yeah,

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it's been a really intense day and definitely not used to staying in school this late.

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At his private hagwon,

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Tommy and his Korean classmate Min Young now face another test.

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And Tommy, what's the difference between present perfect and past?

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-Present perfect?

-Yeah.

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I have lived in Wales for 20 years.

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That's present past.

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-Present perfect.

-Present perfect.

-Had...yeah, have lived...

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-Yeah.

-What's the difference between "have lived" and "lived"?

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Er, I live...

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-I don't know.

-Yeah, OK.

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Can I ask you, cos you've been teaching tonight a grammar lesson to one of our students from Wales,

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Tommy, but in the English grammar test,

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Min Young did better than Tommy.

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-Oh, shoot!

-Yeah!

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THEY LAUGH

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Min Young is excellent. He's the best student and also he's diligent.

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I noticed that Tommy was writing down everything and he wanted to

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memorise it. So Tommy is really diligent and he has passion

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so if there's a system that helped Tommy,

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then Tommy can, you know, get a better score.

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It's ten o'clock at night.

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The hagwons are closing because of the government curfew but many students,

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like Young Chan, are carrying on.

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So where are we going now?

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We're actually heading back to school.

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-Back to school?

-Yeah. So the study room is open until 11.30.

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-11.30!

-Luckily, we have our bikes there,

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so shall we take them back home?

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Yeah, that makes things easier.

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God, and then a long day tomorrow.

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-Yeah.

-And then, one after that!

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THEY LAUGH

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Dankook boys' school is open until 11.30pm at night,

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so they're carrying on with their studying there.

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This is a relentless education system.

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It's ten o'clock at night and the street's just full of children,

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a lot of them still in their school uniforms.

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And I've been speaking to a few groups of children.

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Some of them are tired, some of them are hungry.

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One said he would love to be playing basketball and one girl I spoke to,

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she was 14, she said, "I just want to sleep.

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"I'm so tired, I just want to go to sleep."

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Like other countries around the world,

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the Welsh Government has sent civil servants out to South Korea

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to see if changes need to be made to our education system back home.

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But is this what it takes to get to the top of the international rankings

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and if it is, is it actually worth it?

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Next time, on School Swap: Korean Style,

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there's a surprise in store for our Welsh students...

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-Bore da, pawb.

-..as their headmaster flies over to see them.

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Oh, no!

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Oh, no! Oh, no!

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We find out how teachers are treated in South Korea and meet the maths

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teacher who's made millions from online classes...

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HE SPEAKS KOREAN

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..and I'll be confronting the Welsh education minister with my findings.

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We're not where we should be.

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We're not where I want to be but we are moving forward.

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