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I'm in Brazil.

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Sex is everywhere.

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But are people as open-minded as they make out?

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Oh, my God...!

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Brilliant!

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In a surprisingly prejudiced nation,

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there is a light side we know about and a dark side we don't...

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So there have been times

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when you've had to have sex with 30 men a night?

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..where selling sex is the only way to survive.

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Welcome to a dangerous world,

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where nothing is quite as it seems.

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So you've still got your penis, right?

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-Yeah.

-Where?

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Brazilians are famous for being uninhabited and sexually open.

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Oscar Maroni is one of the biggest stars

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in Brazil's outlandish sex scene.

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If this explicit video is anything to go by,

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his club would appear to be heaven on earth

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for the macho Brazilian male - if he can afford it.

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I've been trying to meet up with Oscar for a couple of days now.

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But he's been playing hard to get.

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-Hello!

-Hello!

-Oscar!

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Oscar, you were supposed to meet me here the other night.

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I came and you'd stood me up.

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Oh, my God...!

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Brilliant!

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Did you have fun?

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I'm so pleased.

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I can promise you that I won't be standing next to you

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in a G-string any time soon.

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-Sorry to disappoint you.

-OK.

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-Can I have a look?

-Please.

-Thanks.

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So this is, essentially,

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a posh brothel, no?

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How many times have you had sex in these rooms?

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Do you always pay for it?

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Is that something a lot of men feel here in Brazil?

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I mean, some people, some women,

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don't like to be referred to as "a conquest".

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Some of us are independent. Some of us are bright.

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Some of us are charismatic without having to have sex with everyone.

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According to Oscar, anything goes in Brazil.

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But his club is focused on the top-end straight sex market.

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Rio has been voted sexiest place on earth on an LGBT travel site.

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It's estimated there are over a million trans women in Brazil

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and the vast majority are sex workers.

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With more than a quarter of the tourists

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who flood here every year LGBT,

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Rio is trans central.

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So I've found this VIP trans girl online

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and this is her website.

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So I just want to have a quick nose before I go and meet her.

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OK, so I don't know how much of this you guys will be able to see...

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..but it's like a...sort of amateur porn video.

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But she looks the part. She looks...

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..beautiful.

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It is confusing when you first look at her,

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because she is so obviously feminine.

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You know, from the waist up.

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And then, from the waist down, it's like, "Whoa!

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"Your penis is massive!"

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But...

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there you go. That's what she looks like.

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I can't wait to meet this girl.

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Hello! Aninya?

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Hey, how do you do? I'm Stacey.

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Aninya is 21 and one of Rio's most popular trans sex workers.

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Before we even start talking, she has a client on the phone.

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-No, you can take it.

-OK.

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-Is that a customer?

-Yes.

-They want you now?

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So how many clients have you had today so far?

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So many of them are married men?

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Really?

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Wow.

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This is Lapa, where Aninya started out three years ago.

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It's the go-to place in the city for trans sex workers.

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One of the reasons I've been given access

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is because my star of a driver Antonio is a cabbie

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and he's been taxiing in Lapa for about 15 years.

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So he's got a really good relationship with the girls.

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Hello!

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How are you?

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You're friends?

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I'm Stacey.

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-What's your name?

-My name is John.

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-John?

-Yes.

-John?

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-John.

-Ah!

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Antonio is your friend?

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Yes. I know him a long time.

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-Ten years.

-Oooh!

-Yes.

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And you've been working this strip for a decade selling sweets.

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You must have seen some sights.

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Ciao!

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Ciao!

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-Would you speak to us? Would you mind talking to us?

-Yeah.

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Where are you working? Up the road?

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-Ah. Do you like it?

-Si.

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Are you passive or active? How...?

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-So you just take it, right?

-Yes.

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Yes.

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-Why don't you give it?

-Oh, no!

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What do you get paid more for, being active or being passive?

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Yeah. So you're earning slightly less than some of the girls.

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Oh. OK.

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Ciao.

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Do you know the girls?

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Yeah? Have you ever...?

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No?

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-No.

-No.

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MAN SHOUTS

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He's laughing at you.

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He's saying that you are.

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Are you two friends? Amigos?

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Your relationship with the girls,

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is it strictly professional

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or have you had sex with them all, like your pal says?

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What is it about the transgender girls that you love so much?

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So are their blow jobs better than straight biological women's?

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Yes?

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And he said, "Si," as well. You've had a blow job off the girls?

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Yes, he has.

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Yes.

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Better than straight biological women?

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Why? What's the difference?

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And you've said that you've slept with loads of the girls.

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Do you...?

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Do you shag them up the arse or do they have sex with you up your arse?

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In your mind, when you're having sex with these girls,

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these trans girls, what are you thinking?

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Are you convincing yourself that you're having sex with a female

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or do you not mind that they have a penis?

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What's the train of thought?

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And how would you boys describe yourselves?

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Are you gay? Are you straight? Are you bi?

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I've had a call from Aninya.

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Are you OK?

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She's got a client coming later, but says we can talk before he arrives.

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Hey...

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Thank you.

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-Ciao.

-Ciao.

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Is that your boyfriend?

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How long have you been together?

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So can I have a quick look around? Is that OK?

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Ah, OK.

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Can you explain to me a little bit about how you work personally?

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How many customers, typically, do you have a day?

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Seven days a week?

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Yes. Si.

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You must be exhausted!

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Can I see some more of your uniform?

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And can I ask you, I know you still have your penis.

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Where do you put it in this?

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Oh, I can see what you're saying. Yeah.

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I leave the room to let Aninya get ready for her client.

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Whoo-hooo!

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Wow! What a vision!

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You look amazing.

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Really lovely.

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And can I ask, where is your penis?

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-Have you tucked it up?

-Yeah.

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Wow.

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Because even, like, this close,

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I would never know that you've still got a penis.

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OK, so, when a client arrives, what exactly will happen?

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What was he like? Was he nice?

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I'll bet your boyfriend's not so keen

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on you having loads of customers like that.

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And when you two first met, did he realise that you were transgender?

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I guess honesty is always the best policy

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when you're trying to start a relationship.

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Aninya's client has just arrived. So I leave her to it.

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Aninya's just texted.

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So, 15, 20 minutes max after I'd left her,

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a picture of the lad getting dressed

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and underneath she's put, "Finished!".

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And I guess, for her, it will then be on to the next one.

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I think she's really fascinating,

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because there doesn't seem to be a great emotional attachment,

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in terms of her work.

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I think she's very business orientated.

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Which is totally fair enough, you know?

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She's worked hard to get where she is now.

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SAMBA MUSIC PLAYS

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I'm in the north of Rio to meet another trans woman.

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She's a samba dancer and tonight it's her birthday.

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Hello! Barbara!

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How are you?

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Happy birthday!

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I know.

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Hello!

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Nice to meet you.

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Barbara is one of the first trans women

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to become a lead dancer at Rio's most famous event - the carnival.

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And her samba mates have shown up for her party tonight.

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It makes talking to her pretty difficult.

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I feel slightly underdressed.

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I've had an amazing time.

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And Barbara is an utter gem.

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She is so, so lovely.

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And all her pals have been amazing.

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But I would like to have a chat with her away from all the chaos,

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because I bet she's a really fascinating character.

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Barbara lives with her grandmother in a working-class neighbourhood

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on the outskirts of Rio.

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Hi. How are you doing?

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Lovely to meet you.

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Oh, wow!

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Look at this!

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My mother doesn't have a picture of me like this in her living room.

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These are all from samba?

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So this was last year's carnival?

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Uh-huh.

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Despite being one of the lead dancers at the carnival,

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Barbara only gets paid during the samba season in the spring.

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It's the off-season now

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and she feels her only option is to make money doing sex work.

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Barbara is not alone.

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90% of trans women in Brazil

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find they can't make a living any other way.

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So you're still having to prostitute yourself.

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Where are you working now?

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I mean, for me, it's just been a pleasure

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to get to know Barbara a little bit more.

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You know what I mean?

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Like, I mean, on the one hand, she's this extravagant,

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larger-than-life, confident character.

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Especially when she's with her pals

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and she's dancing and it's samba time.

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She's in her element.

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But there is a completely different side to her,

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where she's very vulnerable and she seems quite frightened

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and she feels like she doesn't belong to society...

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..you know, as a trans woman.

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Life is just so much harder from the get-go here.

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And if you're a sex worker, it's even harder still.

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Although Brazil has more trans sex workers than anywhere in the world,

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there are plenty of non-trans sex workers here, too.

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The largest red light district in Rio is Villa Mimosa,

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where up to 1,000 girls work every night.

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This area is controlled by a local armed militia,

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who operate above the law.

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I do not want to piss anyone off around here.

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Brazil has the highest number of murders anywhere in the world.

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So it's not a place to push your luck.

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Off I go. Thank you.

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We've been told no-one has ever openly filmed here before.

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And it's not long before we attract attention.

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There's a warning out against us?

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-Erm, yeah.

-How serious is the warning?

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-Well, that's what we've got to figure out now.

-OK.

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So shall we just not do anything for the moment?

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We should wait in the car for the moment.

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A first warning is verbal.

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A second means they'll break your legs.

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And the third is final. They'll kill you.

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These are the two security guys.

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After some negotiation, the militia give us two men who will take us in.

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One of the bar owners lets us in.

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She has ten rooms upstairs

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that she rents out in 20-minute slots to the girls.

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She introduces us to Viviane, a regular in her bar.

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Viviane is 25 and a mum of two young boys.

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She works here over the weekend

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and looks after her kids during the week.

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So this is one of the rooms where the guys come to have sex.

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Oh, you've got a fan at least.

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Yeah, because it gets hot in here.

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So, look, this is one of the beds...

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This is tiny, Viv.

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I couldn't even lie down in here.

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This is the whole thing?

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Whoa...

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And two of you... It gets a bit cramped.

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Shit.

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I probably just got pregnant lying on that, lying on that bed.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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How many men can you sleep with a night, roughly?

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So there have been times

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when you've had to have sex with 30 men a night?

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Is that not sore?

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And explain to me, how does it work?

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Like, is Carla your pimp?

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Do you work for the bar? Explain to me.

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Viviane's like a perfect example of so many girls here in Villa Mimosa.

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You know, it's circumstantial.

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She's got two kids to feed.

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And there's no other way

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she can make this type of money this quickly.

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For me, what I find fascinating is that she's saying

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she hasn't got a pimp.

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So she doesn't have to answer to anyone.

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She's completely self-employed.

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And back home, all the prostitutes, all the sex workers

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that I've spoken to always have, like, an authoritative figure.

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Carla, the bar manager, agrees to talk to me upstairs

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about how her place operates.

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So this is it, the office.

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Cor, it's clever, isn't it? Wow!

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Can you explain to me exactly how it works?

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How do you run your bar?

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My understanding is that brothels here in Brazil

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are completely illegal.

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So how are the police allowing you to continue to run?

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You know, are you living an extravagant life

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off the back of these girls?

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Or are you struggling just as much as some of them?

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Straight sex workers in Rio mostly work in bars like Carla's.

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But the prejudice against gay and transsexual prostitutes

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means they are banned by the macho militia.

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So most of them have to work on the streets.

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Barbara, the carnival dancer,

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has rung to say she's got to go streetwalking tonight.

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Where's your grandma, asleep?

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Is it possible for me to come?

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Do you think there will be many clients out this evening?

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And, Barbara, I know you don't love

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having to go out and work on the streets.

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Why do you have to go out this evening?

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How much, ideally, do you need to make this evening?

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Oh, my sister.

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Come on, then.

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Barbara's been at a samba event this evening

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and has left it late to go to work.

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It's gone two, so she'll only have a few hours

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to find the clients she needs.

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Lovely to meet you. I'm Stacey.

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-Nice to meet.

-Have you been busy, yeah?

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How much have you made?

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OK. So 450 this evening in total.

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Well, Babs was saying she's in a rush

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because she needs to make some dough tonight before the sun comes up.

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Hi!

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Are you Monique?

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Barbara says Monique protects the girls who work on the street.

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Hello. How are you?

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Yeah?

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Here she is in all her glory.

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I feel like the Spice Girls have been reunited!

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How long have you been working on the streets?

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Brazil has the highest murder rate of trans women in the world.

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Their average life expectancy here is just 30.

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But without going on the streets,

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Barbara won't be able to pay her bills.

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They're going off.

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Babs has just taken that guy around the corner.

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I think he wants a blow job, but I don't want to go too close

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because I don't want him getting the hump and then not paying her.

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I'm pleased for her that she's got someone.

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I can't believe how quick it was.

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-Finished?

-No.

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What's wrong?

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What's wrong?

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Barbara, I feel like I can be honest with you.

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Sometimes it seems like the girls put on this performance,

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it's like a sort of theatrical show.

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"Everything's fine, this is great, we're so glam."

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But the reality is,

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you know, there's extreme violence out on the streets.

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Some of the girls have been killed.

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You don't know whether you're going to make it home sometimes.

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It's hard.

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Aninya, the trans worker I first met on Copacabana,

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has invited me to meet her family back home in Sao Paulo.

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With a population of 27 million people,

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it's the biggest city in Latin America.

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Just 400 kilometres from Rio,

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it feels a million miles from the strip

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where Babs is plying her trade.

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While the rest of Brazil

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is heading into the worst recession for over 100 years

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here, in the financial capital, there is still money to be made.

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If you're in the right place,

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a sex worker here can earn up to £6,000 a month - more than a judge.

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Oscar Maroni has called to say I can visit the Bahamas Club

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during opening hours.

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Hello.

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His son lets me in and takes me up the back stairs

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so the customers don't see me.

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-I'm Stacey.

-Nice to meet you.

-Likewise.

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-Very nice to meet you. You're Oscar's son, right?

-Yeah.

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I've heard a lot about you.

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-Thank you.

-Go upstairs.

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It's really just a posh version of life at Carla's bar in Villa Mimosa.

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Oscar simply rents the rooms to the girls

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to use for sex with their clients.

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I'm told I'll have to wait here

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until one of the girls is willing to come and speak with me.

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-Hi!

-Hi!

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Wow, look at you! You look amazing.

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A girl called Lara agrees to have a chat.

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She's only been working here three months.

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So tonight wasn't really a huge success for you financially?

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No, no.

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-But last night was good.

-OK.

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How many did you have last night?

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Two. Two guys.

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I got about 1,500.

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-Just last night?

-Yeah.

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-From two people?

-Two people.

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So you've been here for three months.

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Where were you working before here?

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I had a stationery store.

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-Really?

-Yeah.

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Yeah. And I didn't get the money to pay the rental.

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-So you thought, "I have to find fast money"?

-Yeah.

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I just called here and asked, "Do you need some girls today?"

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"Come here. We can talk."

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So I came here and, "Oh, you're good.

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"Why don't you try to meet some guys here?"

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And it was good for me.

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I have my plans. I don't want to be here all my life.

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I have a kid.

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I have a daughter.

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-Wow. How old is she?

-Nine.

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Nine years old.

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-Does she know what you do?

-No.

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Anyone in my personal life know what I'm doing.

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Just one guy.

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Just my best friend knows.

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But I have a boyfriend.

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-No?

-Yeah.

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-And he doesn't know?

-No.

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-Lara, really?

-Yeah.

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That's difficult for you.

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Oh, a lot.

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Too much. Too much.

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It's too hard for me thinking things about this.

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But I have to do this.

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It's not too long is my plan.

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Don't be for too many times here.

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You're here really because you needed the money.

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-Mm-hm.

-Not because you enjoy this.

-Yeah.

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But your boyfriend has no clue.

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So he's thinking, "Oh, we're going along as normal.

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-"She's not seeing anyone else. We're in love."

-Mm-hm.

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And all the while,

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-you've got this whole secret life going on, essentially.

-Yeah, yeah.

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We have to have secret lives here.

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Do you feel bad on your boyfriend?

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There are many nights when I lay down with a guy

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and I just think, "Oh, my God, what am I doing here?"

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I just don't want this for my daughter.

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I just want to stay with my boyfriend.

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I don't want to stay here all the nights,

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thinking about making money

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and lay down with the old guys, ugly guys

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and things like this.

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My head is just a mess.

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Uh-huh.

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Don't make me cry!

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Oh, don't cry.

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Oh, thank you.

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I need this sometimes.

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-Oh, I bet.

-Thank you.

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When you cover controversial subjects,

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there's always the same spiel that you hear time and time again.

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And I think she just spoke directly from the heart.

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Like, "Of course it's a struggle.

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"Of course it's sending me loopy.

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"Of course it's, you know, having a huge impact on my personal life."

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And I think sometimes you can get carried away...

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..when you hear the huge amounts of money that can be made.

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But it's like dancing with the devil, because...

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..you know, it comes at a price.

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And it's whether or not you think you can deal with that.

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I don't think I could.

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I'm not sure Lara's macho boss Oscar

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understands the emotional turmoil

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that some of the girls are going through.

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I'm meeting him for another chat at his penthouse.

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Why have you got Paris in your living room?

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From our previous conversation,

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Oscar has some bizarre ideas about women.

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I wonder if he has any clue what goes on in the heads

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of some of the girls who work in his club.

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There's no doubt that you are a very liberal, very free,

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very inquisitive sexual being.

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But you also seem fairly bright.

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Surely you recognise that some of them are there...

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..because they have to.

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Financially, they've been forced to.

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You say the girls are really happy when they come to work,

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but obviously, they're going to act happy because it's a show.

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You know, it's a parade.

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They need to look like they're raring to go,

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so that, you know, they get the customers.

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Do you think that there are certain women

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who don't love sex

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and they don't want to be there

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and they're only there because they have to

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and not everybody experiences the Bahamas

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in the same way in which you do?

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For Oscar, it's simple.

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The money the girls earn must make them happy.

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I know this isn't always the case.

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Aninya has invited me to Sunday lunch with her mum and sister.

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She makes plenty of money from sex, no doubt about that.

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But does it make her happy?

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So I'm en route to Aninya's mum's house.

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She's on the surrounding areas of Sao Paulo

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and her favela is one of the poorest around.

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Hello!

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How are you?

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Are you OK?

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You look lovely.

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Aninya left for Rio two years ago.

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And only gets to see her family every six months.

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When she was growing up, she was known as Felipe.

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Her mum lives in a favela run by drug gangs,

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not the easiest place to come out as a trans woman.

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So, Mum, I wanted to try and understand

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how you reacted to the news

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when you found out that Aninya was going to transition.

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And was there ever a period

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when you had to hide what you were doing?

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Was it a secret for a while?

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Although Aninya has left her home town behind,

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her family weighs heavily on her mind.

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Aninya was telling me that you've been a bit poorly recently.

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How are you doing now?

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Have you been able to work since you were diagnosed with depression?

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Aninya has told me she doesn't want to talk about her work

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in front of her family.

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She wants to explain why away from the house.

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I know you didn't feel that comfortable

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talking about what you do for a living around your mum's house.

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But she does know?

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You just prefer not to discuss it so openly?

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In your profession,

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you are really outlandish and really outgoing

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and you talk so explicitly about what you do.

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Around your mother, you're very conservative and very respectful.

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Two different characters.

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It's so interesting seeing this different side to Aninya.

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Her life here couldn't be further from glamorous Copacabana.

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And it's clear now the main reason she needs to earn the money she does

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is to support her mum.

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SAMBA MUSIC PLAYS

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It's my last day in Brazil and I'm back in Rio.

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Before I leave, I'm catching up with Barbara at samba practice.

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This is the first full rehearsal of the season.

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And Barbara's just been given the news

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that she'll again be one of the lead dancers at next year's carnival.

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I'm so pleased I saw you tonight.

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How was practice?

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And your pals here,

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do they have any idea that sometimes you have to work on the street?

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Oh, Barbara I hope, I think so, too.

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I hope so.

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I don't know anyone who deserves it more than you.

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Uh-huh.

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Don't get upset, OK? No tears.

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Well, you're my mate.

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You're my Brazilian BFF.

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And I think you're amazing.

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And I really rate you for still staying so positive

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and so optimistic,

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even though I know sometimes your life is hard.

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SAMBA MUSIC PLAYS

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When I first arrived in Brazil, it felt like a breath of fresh air.

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People here are uninhibited and sexually open.

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Being a sex worker is legal and some have safe places to work.

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But even in a seemingly liberal society like Brazil,

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I've discovered that there's such a taboo around selling sex

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that it doesn't matter how much money you earn

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or how safe you can feel,

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the double life you have to lead as a sex worker is incredibly tough.

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