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-You did it. -I did it. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:09 | |
-She's absolutely beautiful, Misty. -Thank you. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
Prepared for tomorrow? | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
I am...erm... | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
I'm expecting a big...a big breakdown. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
But... | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
..as long as I can get through it, it'll be OK. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
I was in America exploring the traumatic world of open adoption. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
Signing these two documents means | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
that you have made a final decision to have your child adopted. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
You cannot change your mind or get the child back | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
unless fraud or duress is proven in a court of law. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
-GIRL SOBS -You're brave. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
And you're so lovely to give such a wonderful gift, | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
I want you to know that, OK, cos that's how I look at it. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
In Britain, if you give your baby up for adoption, | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
the Social Services decide who will adopt it. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
But here the birth parents can choose for themselves | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
and get to stay in touch with their child as it grows up. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
Like I...I know you guys will both be called Dad, | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
but am I going to be called Dad too or, like, Uncle Josh? | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
I was here to experience how young women make the daunting decision | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
of giving up their newborn babies and how they choose the new parents. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:38 | |
I've done this for you, little guy. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
I love you. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
I just want the best for you. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
I hope you'll see that someday. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
I was in Portland, Oregon, on my way to meet 21-year-old Brianna. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
She was five months pregnant and preparing to give away her baby. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
-Hello. Brianna? -Hi. -I'm Stacey. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
-Nice to meet you, Stacey. -Very nice to meet you. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
Brianna had been studying to become a vet, | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
but got pregnant soon after she'd started dating her new boyfriend, Josh. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:23 | |
-I'd love a cup of tea. -OK. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
-It's like a Blooming tea? -Perfect. -Yeah. -That's spot on. Thank you. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
-We have guests. -So, you find out... | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
-you're two or three months pregnant. -Yeah. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
You and Josh are stood there, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
-you've got the pregnancy test in your hand. -Uh-huh. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
What's your first thought, | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
your first reaction when you see it's positive? | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
Erm...pretty scared. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
Emotional. Erm... | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
It was really hard to come out and say, "I'm pregnant," you know. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:59 | |
It was just kind of like I couldn't really believe it at first. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
And was there any part of you inside | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
that would have liked to have kept this unplanned baby? | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
After I moved in with Josh, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
I went through a period of time where I did want to keep the baby. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:17 | |
And we tried to kind of pretend like it would work, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
kind of act like, "OK, let's see how we feel if we keep the baby." | 0:03:21 | 0:03:26 | |
And we would look at baby things, baby clothes, baby furniture. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
-What changed? -Erm... | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
There was a bunch of, you know, there was kind of arguing and bickering going on | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
-between our relationship that wasn't... -You and Josh? | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
Yeah. That wasn't going to be a positive environment for a child | 0:03:41 | 0:03:46 | |
and since we are so new, we are still getting to know each other, you know? | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
So whose idea was it | 0:03:50 | 0:03:51 | |
to perhaps...look at other alternatives? | 0:03:51 | 0:03:56 | |
I think it was mostly mine, | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
because I knew what my alternatives were and so I figured | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
if I was going to proceed with this pregnancy and decide to do adoption, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
it would... Open adoption would be the best choice. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
Brianna and Josh were going through a local non profit agency for their open adoption. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:19 | |
They would only get basic expenses | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
that would be covered by the adoptive parents. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
-How are you Josh? How do you do? -Good. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
Although Brianna was due to give birth in just four months' time, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:33 | |
they still hadn't chosen the parents or even met any possible candidates. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
We've been reading this book right here thoroughly | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
that our open adoption agency gave us. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
We really enjoyed that so many of these people were adventurers, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
we went through and bookmarked different pages | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
of people that really stood out to us. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
-Oh, OK, so you've sort of put little notes. -Uh-huh. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
I mean, what is this like? There are so many couples in here. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
Yeah, it was... At first it was kind of overwhelming, | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
but it was also really fun at the same time cos we were, like, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
"Oh, well, we have all this reading material, we have to go through | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
"and there's so many different options, what exactly do we want? | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
"What exactly do we want to stay away from?" | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
-And how many did you whittle it down to? -Three. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
-How many were you really taking seriously? Three? -Uh-huh. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
-And then these guys, Frank and John. -OK. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
-And we really like... -They've got matching shirts. -Yeah. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
-They're so cute. -Is that the main reason? -Yeah. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
When we saw this page, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:30 | |
-we both marked it without reading it, definitely. -HE LAUGHS | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
-You just like the look of them? -They just look so happy. -They look very happy, particularly happy. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
And she wants to be a vet and one of 'em's a vet and the other one's a Chinese therapist and so... | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
-And they're obviously gay, these two guys? -Yeah. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
I feel like a lot of same-sex couples | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
deserve to have the chance of being a parent. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
Not because of their, you know, sexual preference, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
but because they really do have | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
that, you know, parenting motivation inside them. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
But were there certain things that were necessary? | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
Because the very reason you guys are entertaining the open adoption | 0:06:02 | 0:06:07 | |
is because you feel like you guys aren't in that space right now. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
You know, I want the couple to be together | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
for as long as they possibly can, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
you know, which is hopefully for ever. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
And I think these guys really have that. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
Brianna and Josh were about to take the next big step | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
in choosing the parents for their baby, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
they were ready to meet with Frank and Johnathan face to face. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
The prospective parents had just made the eight hour flight | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
from their home in Hawaii. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
This would be their first contact of any sort. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
Hi. How are you? | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
Come on in. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
At the agency, Brianna's counsellor, Lindsay, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
-was there to help them begin this daunting process. -Good to see you. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
I think this meeting can really kind of make the process seem very real. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
And so suddenly all these things that seemed very abstract, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
you were looking at pictures before and having | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
very theoretical abstract discussions, becomes very solid. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
And keep in mind too that your nervousness, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
while very, very natural, also mirrors theirs. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
So they are absolutely going to be nervous too. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
-Are they here already? -They are. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
-Actually, I'll call and check and see. -They don't even know what we look like, do they? | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
-No, they don't. Yeah, we'll see. -OK. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
This is not yet a permanent option or a permanent choice, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
so it's still, you know, pretty... | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
-I feel like I can still breathe, you know? -Uh-huh. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
-Hello. Hi. -Hey. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
-What's up? Good to meet you guys. -ALL LAUGH | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
-Hi. So nice to meet you. -Good to see you. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
-Hi! -Very nice to meet you. -So exciting. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
So nice to meet you too, finally. Oh, my God! ALL LAUGH | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
-We kind of compare this to a blind date. -Yes, that's exactly what I said. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:03 | |
Exactly what I said. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
It's like you got that butterflies in your stomach feeling | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
-and you're like... -Well, let's sit and talk about it then. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
-OK. OK. -Well, what about the kind of journey that has led you guys to adoption? | 0:08:11 | 0:08:17 | |
When I was 19 I came out. I just... put the idea of having a kid aside. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:22 | |
Then once I met him, he was very adamant about having a son. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
I always knew I wanted to be a dad, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
I always knew that I wanted to have a relationship with my child | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
like my dad had with me. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
I think I was like everybody else when I first heard the idea of open adoption. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
I was like, "This is so much better for the child and for us as adoptive parents | 0:08:36 | 0:08:42 | |
"and for the birth parents, it's just a healthier way to go." | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
I'm having a boy. What were you guys wanting? | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
Do you...? I'm sure you are open to both. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
-I was open to both, he really wanted a boy. -OK. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
I really was hoping for a son, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
because... Well, I mentioned the relationship I had with my dad, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
I always wanted to raise a son, that was really important to me. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
Not that I wouldn't love a girl too equally. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
I was worried you guys were going to be taken. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
This is so amazing, I don't understand why it took so long, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
-but I'm glad it did, it's perfect. -Yeah, absolutely. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
-Thank you. -Thanks, Lindsay. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
Thank you so much. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
Bye, take care. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
-Are you happy? -Yeah. -How are you feeling? | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
Really...great, relieved, excited. Erm... | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
I feel like... I feel like we chose a really great couple. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:38 | |
I'm glad that they're as good as they seemed on paper, you know. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
-Yeah. I think they're better. -And how are you feeling | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
in terms of the decision itself? | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
Is it...is it made? | 0:09:47 | 0:09:48 | |
Erm...I mean, not completely, but you know, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
our hopes are staying positive and I really hope they are the couple that we are looking for. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:56 | |
We're just going to figure that out in a couple of days. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
I left Brianna and Josh to spend a few days | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
getting to know Frank and Johnathan, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
so that they could decide whether they were the right parents for their baby. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
I was in Montana and on my way to meet another birth mum | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
who was further down the line and had already chosen the parents. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
19-year-old Misty | 0:10:21 | 0:10:22 | |
was just two months away from giving birth to a baby girl. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
-Hello. -Hi. -How do you do? I'm Stacey. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
-Very nice to meet you. -Pleased to meet you. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
Misty had wanted to train as a teacher, but got pregnant | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
after five months of being in a relationship with Rory. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
Although they'd met adoptive parents, Sherry and Angie, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
through an agency, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:45 | |
they've decided to do the adoption by themselves. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
Describe to me what it's been like over the past seven months | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
having your daughter grow, I guess, inside of you. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
Erm...it's been... | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
Erm... | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
-It's been exciting. -Right. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
I mean, I've definitely enjoyed kind of the magic | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
and the mystery of being pregnant. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
And kind of the... It's kind of empowering a little bit. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:19 | |
I'm just... It's cos I'm taking the step from being a child... | 0:11:19 | 0:11:26 | |
I mean, a young woman into being a mother. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
-Was abortion ever an option? -Not for me, no. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
I don't have anything against abortion, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
but it was not morally...morally a decision I would make. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:40 | |
How do you feel about her now? | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
-Like, whilst we're standing here, you always sort of stroke her and cuddle her. -Oh the baby? | 0:11:42 | 0:11:47 | |
She's always moving, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
so I'm always trying to just comfort her and let her know I'm here. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
So... I think that connection is important right now. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:58 | |
-So... -Do you love her? -I do. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
-Erm... -MISTY LAUGHS | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
Er... | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
I... If...if things were different... | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
..I would raise her. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
Misty didn't have a close relationship with her parents | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
and had been living with best friend, Katrina, and her family for the past year. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:28 | |
God! You don't have to walk very far, do you? | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
You're lucky to have it across the road. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
Do we stop and look? | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
You can do it. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
She's really good with him. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
-She's really excellent with kids. One of her nicknames is Nantie. -Nantie? | 0:12:42 | 0:12:47 | |
Nantie, because she nannied for someone one summer and the kids starting calling her Nantie. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
-Half nanny, half auntie? -Yes. -Brilliant. -Yeah. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
And how are you feeling about the choice Misty's made? | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
You know, I don't...I don't really agree with it. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
I think it's...a permanent solution to a temporary problem. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:08 | |
I think she's a little too worried about how she's going to financially provide for right now, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:15 | |
because she's young still. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
Over the past few months, Misty has built a close relationship | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
with Sherry and Angie and their six-year-old boy, Kaj. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:32 | |
Nice to meet you, Angie. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
I joined them for a weekend at their ranch with Misty. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
Oh! You're very handsome. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
Wow! | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
Is this your bedroom? | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
Do you like dinosaurs, then? | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
Pterodactyls, T-rex. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
-Kaj isn't adopted? -No, he's not. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
-How did we have Kaj? -We used a sperm donor and I gave birth to Kaj. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
We tried, like, a year and a half of fertility and IVF | 0:13:59 | 0:14:04 | |
and it just never worked again. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
So then that was the point that we decided to pursue adoption. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
We just didn't realise it would take so long. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
So you've been desperate for another child for a while? | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
We have been trying since Kaj turned one. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
-So five years. -Five years. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
We also know what it is to bring a child into the world | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
and be connected to it and so we just... | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
We're trying to be realistic. Excited and realistic at the same time. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
-You know, there's that concern that she might just change her mind. -Hmm. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
And we've talked to them about that too. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:39 | |
We've, you know, we've had that conversation but... | 0:14:39 | 0:14:44 | |
It's such a huge investment, isn't it, for something that potentially might not materialise? | 0:14:44 | 0:14:50 | |
It is, but I think in the end...it'll be worth it. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
I think, you know, especially if it works, | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
it will have been worth every bit of the last five years. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
If it doesn't work out in the end, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
then we can look at each other at the end of the day | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
and say, "We did everything." | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
You know, it's not like we can just stop and say, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
"Well, we didn't give it 110%," because we have. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
BIRDSONG | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
Misty's boyfriend, Rory, had driven down | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
to spend the rest of the weekend with us. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
-Good to meet you. -Very nice to meet you also. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
It struck me that Misty had chosen a family for her baby girl | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
that had a warmth and closeness she missed from her own. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
-Where's the parade? I don't know. -LAUGHTER | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
And why Angie and Sherry? | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
Erm...yeah, I guess it's just really... I see myself and Misty | 0:15:53 | 0:15:58 | |
and them and the way they live and the way they, you know, | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
talk about wanting to kind of live their future life here. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:07 | |
And where are you both now, you know, in terms of your decision? | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
Relieved to know that our daughter's going to be taken care of in a way that...that we want. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:17 | |
Relief that I'm still going to be able to be a part of my daughter's life. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:24 | |
That's adorable. It's adorable. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
-Wow, that's...bright. -Yeah. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
-I just like the fluffy guys. -LAUGHTER | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
Back in Portland, Brianna and Josh had spent the last two days with Frank and Johnathan. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:46 | |
They'd decided that they would make good parents for their baby boy. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
CHATTER AND LAUGHTER | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
The agency had arranged another meeting to begin negotiating how this relationship might work. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:59 | |
We call this meeting the relationship-building meeting. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
So today the goal is to really kind of give you guys some more tools | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
to help you grow your relationship | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
and develop a deeper understanding of one another, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
so that you can build a really, really solid and healthy foundation. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
Like I know you guys are both going to be called Dad, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
but am I going to be called Dad too? | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
Or like uncle Josh or how are we going to handle that? | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
One thing that's really common in Hawaii | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
is like...extended family or even close friends, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:36 | |
the male person'll be called Uncle and the female Auntie. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:43 | |
So, I mean, that's a designation | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
that I really liked personally about Hawaii. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
But for me those specific words of Mum and Dad have sort of... | 0:17:48 | 0:17:53 | |
They're directly tied to the parenting role for me | 0:17:53 | 0:17:58 | |
and so from that way it's kind of like you know, I don't know... | 0:17:58 | 0:18:05 | |
I wouldn't say that I'm like possessive about the words, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
-but they definitely have a link to the parent title. -They're a trigger for you. -Yeah, exactly. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:13 | |
And I like the way you put it as... | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
I don't want to seem possessive by making him call me Father or something like that, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:21 | |
-just because it's a charged term. -Right. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
I just want him to know that I'm someone who loves him, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
-that's why I think Uncle works perfect. -Right. -Yeah. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
I'm fine with Uncle and Auntie. And it's not a huge deal for me. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
-It's just wanting to know, I guess. -Yeah, absolutely. -Yeah. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
Also agreed in the meeting was that Brianna and Josh | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
would have at least one visit a year with their son | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
and that they would keep in touch by e-mail and Skype as he grew up. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
But by law in the State of Oregon | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
none of this could be put into effect | 0:18:49 | 0:18:50 | |
until 24 hours after Brianna had given birth. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
Are there any reservations? Are there any concerns? | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
No, not really. I mean, a lot of... | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
A few people have asked me, like, "Were you a little worried | 0:19:04 | 0:19:09 | |
that you know, things might change at the last minute or something?" | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
And I said, "Well, I might be if I hadn't met the birth parents." | 0:19:12 | 0:19:17 | |
-But I feel like we have a really good sense of Brie and Josh and... -And a good connection. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:23 | |
And I know what Brie and Josh's intentions are | 0:19:23 | 0:19:28 | |
and I don't have any really serious doubts | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
-that they're not going to follow through on their plans, you know. -Yeah. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
Well, good. I'm pleased, because to be that confident must be difficult | 0:19:34 | 0:19:40 | |
when you're not entirely in control of something you really, really want. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
-Especially... I know you've wanted this for such a long time. -Right. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
It's never, you know, 100% until it's...a done deal kind of thing. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:53 | |
-Right. -But I think we feel as confident as we could ever feel under the circumstances. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:59 | |
You hop in. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
Frank and Johnathan were on their way back to Hawaii | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
and this'd be the last time I'd see Brianna before she gave birth. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:10 | |
We were heading to her mum's house to choose one of Brianna's old toys to pass on to her baby. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:15 | |
-There's my high school right there. -What, on the left? -Uh-huh. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
-Is that where you went? -Yeah. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:21 | |
-Which one's your mum's place? -It's down here. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
Hmm. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
-Hey. -Hey. Come on in. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
-Yay. -Lovely to meet you. -Thanks for having me. Thanks a lot. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
-Come on in and have a seat. -Thank you. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
-How are you feeling? -Doing good. -Yeah. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
Baby is doing good, very regular heartbeat | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
and he's starting to sit pretty low. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
-Already? -Yeah. -Does it hurt? -A little bit. -A little. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
I feel like my hips are kind of moving outward more and I'm like, "Oh!" | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
-That's uncomfortable. -Let's look in our box of goodies and see what's in here. -Let's do it. | 0:20:55 | 0:21:01 | |
-Please, Minnie, be in here. -I know. -I really swore you took her. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
I swear you kept her. MUM LAUGHS | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
-Oh! -Oh, I remember this. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
-The puppet! -MUM LAUGHS | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
I'm such a dork, "Hello there!" | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
-But puppets aren't dorky, are they? -I like the puppet so far. -No. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
-I sort of quite like puppets. -That's...that's fun. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
My mum had like a sock, like a budget puppet, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
-like a manky old sock with like a hole in it. -Yeah. -LAUGHTER | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
-So I think we'll go with the monkey. -OK. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
-Because Auntie gave this to me so it does have a meaning behind it. -Yeah. -You know? -Uh-huh. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:40 | |
Nina, would you mind if I asked you | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
what you would like your role to be with the baby? | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
Hmm. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
Well...Grandma, cos I am Grandma. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
But I don't know if that's the... | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
if there's an appropriate title for it, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
because of it being, number one, an adoption and, number two, long distance. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:09 | |
I don't know. That's a tough one. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
You know there's positives to this whole thing | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
and there's some negatives to this whole thing, but I try to focus on the positives. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
-Of course. -And, you know, just apply the positives as much as I can | 0:22:19 | 0:22:25 | |
to try to outweigh the negatives or the not so happy parts about it. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
Sure. So... | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
What concerns you the most? | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
Erm...probably just being able to let go, you know? | 0:22:33 | 0:22:39 | |
-Yeah. -That's going to be hard, the just letting go. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
-That's the part that makes me emotional when I think about it. -Yeah. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
-Because... -I mean... | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
-You know they're in good hands. -Yeah. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
-I don't question that they would be fantastic parents. -Yeah. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
-I know that that's a for sure. -It's just that you're giving... | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
-You're giving yourself, a part of yourself to someone else. -Uh-huh. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:02 | |
-And that life that you created. -Uh-huh. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
A lot of people... Even if it is an open adoption... | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
I've been reading a book | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
and everyone's situations are so different. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
Like there are people who are completely closed off | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
during their grieving time | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
-and then some people are really completely open... -OK. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
..so it's kind of interesting just learning about like... | 0:23:23 | 0:23:29 | |
-where I'm going to be, you know, during that process. -Uh-huh. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:34 | |
You're already open enough to know that this lovely couple | 0:23:34 | 0:23:39 | |
will be really awesome parents. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
-And you're affording them that ability to do that... -Uh-huh. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:47 | |
..and try really hard not... later on... | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
0f course that's easy for me to say now, that you made the wrong decision. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:55 | |
I don't want you feel that way. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
Can I have a hug? | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
Oh, honey! | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
BRIANNA SOBS | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
I love you. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
-And I know this is really difficult. -BRIANNA SOBS | 0:24:11 | 0:24:16 | |
And you're brave and you're so lovely | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
to give such a wonderful gift. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
I want you to know that, OK, cos that's how I look at it. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
-Could you give a more perfect gift? No. -Probably not. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
No. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
I'm really excited to see you and I'm going to miss having you inside. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
You can see how big you are...right now. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
It's fun to feel you move around and watch you grow, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
but I'm really excited to see your face, so we'll see you soon. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
OK, Nate, I probably should tell you the date today. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
It's January 24th, 1997. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
And now we're on the way to the hospital. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
And it's a beautiful day outside. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
A perfect day for you to be born. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
Hey. BABY CRIES | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
17 years ago, Becky gave birth to Nathan near Portland, Oregon. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:12 | |
She'd used the same adoption agency that Brianna's going through. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:18 | |
And two days later, she gave him to the new parents she'd chosen for him, Sarah and Mark. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:24 | |
Now Nathan is in his last year of school. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
He hopes to go on to university and dreams of becoming a writer. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
Hello. How are you? I'm Stacey. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
-Hi, I'm Nathan. -You're huge, Nathan! Look at you! | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
I went back to his home where he lives with his adoptive parents. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:50 | |
You've got Thai food. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:51 | |
Oh, thank God there's Thai food. STACEY LAUGHS | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
-Mum, can I... Mum, can I have a spring roll? -Of course. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
-Thank you. -We were just watching Nathan play basketball. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
-Wasn't that fun. -He's brilliant! -Yeah. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
-My limited knowledge of basketball, I've got to say. -Right, right. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:09 | |
These are our family portraits. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:10 | |
That's my mum when she was younger. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
That's my dad when he was younger. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
-They're so awesome. -Uh-huh. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
And so where are the pictures of your biological parents? | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
Oh, I have a few scattered around the room. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
This is one of the first photos of us at about a year old there. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
-So that's your birth mum. -Yeah, that's Becky. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
-You don't call her mum? -Er...no. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
I never really grew up with her AS my mother. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
-Right. -So...she's really just Becky to me. She was Becky when I met her. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
And...what would you say your relationship's like with...Becky? | 0:26:37 | 0:26:42 | |
I think it's very good, because she's always been in my life, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
she's always been one of my best friends. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
It's like, I know I can talk to her about anything. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
We go and do things together. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
-Like, she'll come down for the day. -So you liken her to a friend? | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
Erm...well, like, definitely above best friend. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
Yeah. She's... We're friends in every way a parent/child can be really. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:05 | |
I know some people that are adopted in the UK | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
don't even know what their biological parents look like. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
Yeah. It's... | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
I've always grown-up with it. It wasn't like yesterday somebody came up to me | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
and was like, "I am your father." | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
Or like, "Your mother is right over there, you should go and meet her." | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
-Like in the movies. -Yeah. I've always known my parents. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
And so, like, I don't think it's that strange or odd of a thing. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
I can't even believe how lucky I am, just to know who my parents are, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:32 | |
which is something a lot of adopted people just never really get to know. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:37 | |
Hi, Nathan. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
Hi. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
-There's a lot to be looking at here. -Uh-huh. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
Sarah showed me some videos of Nathan's first years. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:51 | |
Are we going to the park? | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
Yeah! | 0:27:55 | 0:27:56 | |
Here we go! | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
It struck me how hard it must have been for Sarah | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
finding her feet as a new mum | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
and having to share her son with his grieving birth mother Becky. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
-Perfect timing for you to go upstairs and do your Spanish. -STACEY LAUGHS | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
-Think Spanish thoughts. -Good luck. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
-Adios amigo. -Adios. -Ciao, ciao! | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
INDISTINCT De nada. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
In hindsight, looking back now, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
what were the challenges for you with the open adoption? | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
I think the biggest challenge was that I felt like... | 0:28:30 | 0:28:35 | |
..that Becky and her mum wanted | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
just much, much more time with Nathan than I was comfortable with. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:45 | |
And...it was really hard for me | 0:28:45 | 0:28:50 | |
to feel like I was always disappointing them. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
And...I can't...I couldn't really make that better. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
You know what I mean? That by saying, "Oh, sure," you know, | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
"come on up for the weekend." Or, "Let's do this even though | 0:29:02 | 0:29:07 | |
"we just did this other thing three weeks ago." | 0:29:07 | 0:29:11 | |
You know, that that wasn't going to make it OK. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
It wasn't going to assuage her grief and loss. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:18 | |
I guess it's an impossible situation sometimes. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:22 | |
You know...no-one is purposefully trying to upset the other party, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:28 | |
-but inevitably they're going to feel like they are sometimes. -Exactly. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:33 | |
Exactly. Exactly. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
And you're...content with how things played out, | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
how the relationships have now formed? | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
I mean, time is a wonderful thing. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
You know, I worry about different things when my child is 16 | 0:29:43 | 0:29:48 | |
than when he's 16 months, you know. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
And...Becky's not 19 or 20 any more. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
And...that's wonderful. It's a good thing. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
Nathan was taking me to Portland's Saturday market | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
and was going to introduce me to Becky. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
-Hello! How do you do? -Nice to meet you. -Likewise. It's very nice to meet you. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
I'm Stacey. So how often do you guys get to do this? | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
Every...three months or something like that, I'm guessing. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
I'll come up to his basketball games and we'll go to dinner or shopping. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
Our last trip though was pretty cool. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
That was our Seattle trip to Kanye West. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
-Nathan mentioned this. You took him to see Kanye West? -Yes. -Yeah. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
It was so good to see you. I love you. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
-I'll talk to you soon, OK? -Talk to you soon. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
-OK. Have fun. Good luck tonight. -Good luck! | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
Becky went on to law school after the adoption | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
and now works as a public prosecutor. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
Nathan remains her only child. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
-This one is one of my favourites of him. -Hmm! | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
-Look at that little bug. -Oh, my Lord! -Isn't he just so delicious? | 0:31:06 | 0:31:11 | |
This is the day they took him home. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:12 | |
-This is the placement ceremony. -Right. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
So I'm a little... | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
This WAS a hard moment. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
I think you can see that on Sarah's face and mine. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
It was...you know. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
That's...that's the moment. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
And how often did you hope to see Nathan realistically? | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
You know, I think at that time I thought I would see him probably every month. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:36 | |
I think I thought that I would... | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
You know, it would be... | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
Cos like Sarah called me every day when I was pregnant | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
and I think that I just felt like it would be similar to that. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:48 | |
You know, we'd have contact regularly and... | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
And...it just didn't turn out that same way. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:57 | |
You know, I think it's hard for Mark and Sarah to see that kind of pain. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:02 | |
And erm... | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
You know, I don't know that... for as hard as it was, | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
I don't know if, you know, even if I had had the number of visits | 0:32:09 | 0:32:15 | |
or we had had the type of relationship that I'd initially envisaged, | 0:32:15 | 0:32:20 | |
I don't know if that would have made it any easier. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
You know, I think I was just... | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
I was not really prepared for just how difficult it would be. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:34 | |
You know, 17 years later it's...it's still hard. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:39 | |
It's hard to say goodbye to him every time. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
it's hard to not bring him home with me. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
Erm...and it's such a complicated situation | 0:32:46 | 0:32:53 | |
where I'm so thankful for Mark and Sarah. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:59 | |
And I am so appreciative of the life they have given him, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:04 | |
which is exactly what I wanted him to have. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
-It is. -Do you feel like the older Nathan's got | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
and the longer you guys have known each other, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
-it's now all falling into place quite nicely? -Definitely. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
To be able to take him to Seattle last month to see Kanye West | 0:33:17 | 0:33:22 | |
together on an overnight and talk about his life | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
and talk about his dreams and talk about his fears and all of that, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:31 | |
I just feel so incredibly blessed to get to have that relationship with him. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
And I know he knows how much I love him. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
I know he knows that. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
I'd now spent a month exploring the world of open adoption. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:05 | |
I had witnessed just how painful and complicated | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
these relationships could be. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
For the birth parents, it's an agonising time | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
where they're fighting against their most basic maternal instincts. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
And for the couples who have often waited years to adopt, | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
it's a fraught time too, never knowing if the baby will be theirs | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
until after the birth when the legal papers are signed. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
I was back in Montana and Misty's baby was due any day. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
Angie and Sherry were in town waiting for the new arrival. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
-Hi. -Hi. -How's it going? -Good. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
And the last time I caught up with you two was about a month ago. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:51 | |
Where are you now? Like, what's been happening over the past month? | 0:34:51 | 0:34:55 | |
I think we feel like this is going to go through, I feel good about it. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
I still think there's always that possibility that it may not, | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
just because she is... | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
It's going to be hard. It's going to be super sad and super hard | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
and she's going to nurse that baby for the 72 hours. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
So, it's... | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
So there's... I think there's always that slim possibility on Misty's part. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
And what have you two been doing over the past month | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
to get yourself prepared for the next couple of days? | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
Well, we...got all the baby stuff. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
What have you purchased? | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
-Erm... -A pack of diapers, a pack of baby butt wipes, baby butt cream, | 0:35:30 | 0:35:38 | |
a couple of little onesies and an awful baby bag, | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
-it's the worst. -Yeah, it's horrible. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
-She doesn't like the bag. Is the bag here? -It is. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
-Can I see it? -Yeah. It's awful. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
-We won't judge you on the bag. -See the tags are still on it. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
-Why are the tags still on it? -Just in case. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
We can take it back. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
-You really feel like that's a possibility? -I don't know. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
A month ago when we bought it it felt like a possibility. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
We have to prepare for both scenarios, | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
just like Misty has to prepare for both scenarios. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
I told her, I just said, "Look...I have delivered a child, | 0:36:08 | 0:36:13 | |
"I know the bond that you have when you give birth to a child." | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
And I said, "It's not going to be easy, Misty, | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
"and if you change your mind then we're happy for you. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
"And that's what we want for you if that's what your decision is. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
"And we're OK with that. But we just ask if that is the case | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
"that you tell us and you cut us loose. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
"Don't string us along." And I think she gets that. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
-Yeah. -So... | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
I was on my way to see Misty, who had moved into Rory's mum's house. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
BIRDSONG | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
I'd never have thought to do this. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
That way we can keep my bump for ever. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
-Is that the idea? -Uh-huh. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
Are you going to miss being pregnant? | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
Erm...only some things about being pregnant. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
-So Angie and Sherry are going to bring all the gear, the car seat. -Uh-huh. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
-Everything they'll need to take baby home. -Uh-huh. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
What do you think about that? | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
Erm...I'm not quite sure what I think about that. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:27 | |
I don't think it's something I can prepare myself for. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
Yeah. Is it definitely dry? | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
-I need to get over this, but... -It's separating from my belly. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
Argh!. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
One minute. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:42 | |
Yay! | 0:37:45 | 0:37:46 | |
Oh, my God! It's perfect! | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
-I'll be pregnant for ever. -LAUGHTER | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
A few days later, doctors decided to induce Misty's labour. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
So by hook or by crook... | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
this baby is going to come out. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
Mum's making her come out today. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
-How are you? -I'm good. -I'm Stacey. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
-Hi, Stacey, nice to meet you. -How's things? Very nice to meet you. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
-Today's the day. -Yes. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
-We're pretty excited. -How's grandma feeling? | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
Er...a little nervous. LAUGHTER | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
Little nervous, this is...it's going to be different. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
I think, initially, I wasn't real sure of how it was all going to go. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
Erm...but now that I've met Sherry and Angie | 0:38:32 | 0:38:39 | |
and I just think it's going to be a good thing. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
And as long as she is doing what she needs to do, then that's... | 0:38:42 | 0:38:47 | |
I'll be behind her. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
And I appreciate that maturity. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
I appreciate that maturity and that selflessness. | 0:38:55 | 0:39:00 | |
So... | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
-Ready to go? -Ready. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:07 | |
-Let's go. -OK. -Bye, Sue. -OK. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
-Good luck, yeah? -Thanks, yeah. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
Misty went into hospital | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
and 20 hours later her daughter, Creeda, was born. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
Sherry helped deliver the baby. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
What do you think, Misty? | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
What do you think of that? LAUGHTER | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
All of that, "I can't do it, I can't do it." | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
BABY CRIES | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
You did it. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
In the state of Montana, parents must wait 72 hours | 0:39:50 | 0:39:54 | |
before they can sign away their parental rights. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
Misty and Rory were waiting out this time | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
in a hotel with Sherry and Angie. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
-Hello. -Hi, Stacey. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
-How are you feeling? -Good. Come on in. -Thank you. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
-How are you? -I'm good. How are you? -OK, thank you. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
-Oh, well done. -Thanks. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
Oh, my gosh! | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
She's absolutely beautiful, Misty. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
-Thank you. -You did it. -I did it. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:28 | |
She's here. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
-And last night she stayed with Angie and Sherry? -Uh-huh. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:35 | |
Was that your decision? | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
-A little bit of both, I think. -Yeah. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
I think they were really looking forward to it and... | 0:40:39 | 0:40:43 | |
I'm finding myself kind of needing to consciously make sure | 0:40:43 | 0:40:49 | |
that I'm stepping back and letting them just hold her, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:54 | |
keep onto her for a while. You want to hold her? Yeah? | 0:40:54 | 0:40:59 | |
I've been waiting for you, Creeda. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
STACEY LAUGHS | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
I cannot believe...that I made that. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
That that was me. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
She's half of you. And she's so perfect, Misty. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
You've done... What an achievement. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
-Totally worth it. -Yeah? -Yeah. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
And what's it like... | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
watching Angie and Sherry with her? | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
Erm... | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
It's... | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
I...I don't really know how to explain it, | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
it's kind of a... | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
It's kind of a bittersweet feeling. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
I mean, I love seeing all of them together. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
It...makes me happy knowing that she's... | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
She has them. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
But at the same time it's a little...it's a little hard, | 0:42:10 | 0:42:15 | |
cos it's not me. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:16 | |
But... | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
-I'll be back. -OK. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
CREEDA CRIES | 0:42:28 | 0:42:29 | |
Misty seems to be really rational about the whole thing and... | 0:42:29 | 0:42:33 | |
to be that strong when you've just given birth | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
to the most beautiful thing you've ever seen | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
is just staggering, you know. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
-It's totally nuts! -CREEDA CRIES | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
I think she believes in her heart that this is the right thing. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
But she's going to be absolutely devastated when that baby leaves. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
Creeda was now three-days-old and it was decision time for Misty. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
I was on my way to the attorney's office | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
where the paperwork was due to be signed. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
-Is that OK? -Yeah. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
-How are we all? -Good. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
-You are the new proud parents. -We are the parents of Creeda. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:37 | |
-Game? -Can you guys take it? | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
-I think so. -She gets to go home with us? | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
Silly question. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:51 | |
How is everyone...doing? | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
-I'm relieved. -LAUGHTER | 0:43:53 | 0:43:57 | |
Good. And I hope that you guys are... | 0:43:57 | 0:44:01 | |
It's going to be a rough time, but a million thanks. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:05 | |
-I think it'll be good. -Yeah. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:07 | |
-Susan'll be in touch. OK. All right. Thank you, Misty. -Bye. Thank you. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:16 | |
What can I say. You know, it's evident... | 0:44:38 | 0:44:43 | |
how heartbreaking it is for the pair of them. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:46 | |
But they're in this weird place | 0:44:50 | 0:44:52 | |
where they're able to kind of accept their own hurt... | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
..look forward... | 0:44:58 | 0:45:00 | |
..and feel like in their hearts they're doing the right thing. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
-Hey, get down here. -We'll see you. OK? -Don't squish her. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:12 | |
-CREEDA CRIES -Oh, my! | 0:45:12 | 0:45:15 | |
I just fed her, so she should be good for a while. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:17 | |
She should be good for a few miles? | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
OK. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:21 | |
Take good care, OK. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:27 | |
-Take pictures. -Oh, yeah. -Every day. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:30 | |
-You bet. -Every day. -LAUGHTER | 0:45:30 | 0:45:33 | |
-We'll get the Facebook thing up and running, OK? -OK. -OK. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
Take care, guys, yeah? | 0:45:36 | 0:45:39 | |
-BOTH: -Bye, Stacey. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
Shall we get out of here? | 0:45:49 | 0:45:51 | |
Can you say hi? | 0:45:53 | 0:45:56 | |
Can you give her a little coffee kiss on the forehead? | 0:46:01 | 0:46:03 | |
-Oh... -No? You're not sure yet? | 0:46:03 | 0:46:06 | |
INDISTINCT | 0:46:09 | 0:46:11 | |
A good smile, not your psycho smile. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
-Can you look at Stacey and smile. -Oh, these are lovely! | 0:46:16 | 0:46:20 | |
So what's the plan now? | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
We're going to bust a move out of here. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:27 | |
Grab a bite to eat so we don't just melt away like we're going to. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:32 | |
And go home. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:35 | |
Do you remember when I was having a chat with you in your kitchen? | 0:46:35 | 0:46:39 | |
And you were going, "I can't even allow meself to imagine it because it might not happen." | 0:46:39 | 0:46:44 | |
It did. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:49 | |
OK, just throw it in the garbage, buddy. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:55 | |
I was back in Portland. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:16 | |
Brianna had given birth to a baby boy | 0:47:18 | 0:47:20 | |
who had been named Apollo by Frank and Johnathan. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:23 | |
-That lower lip! -I know. -Quiver! | 0:47:23 | 0:47:27 | |
-Little foot print. -Special moments. -Yeah. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:32 | |
-I'll even spread my toes for you. -That's right, that's right. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:36 | |
The next day, I went to meet the new arrival and proud parents. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:43 | |
-Hey! -Hi. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
You finally get to see him. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:51 | |
-How you doing? -I'm doing great. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:54 | |
-Brie, he's awesome. -I know. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:57 | |
Are you feeling quite content? | 0:47:58 | 0:48:00 | |
I am, yeah. I'm really happy, it's like... | 0:48:00 | 0:48:03 | |
all this work really paid off and we've got a healthy little baby boy. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:08 | |
-Are you all right, Josh? -Yeah. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:11 | |
-Definitely overwhelmed with emotions. -Yeah. -We both are. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:16 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:48:16 | 0:48:18 | |
It's going to be, you know, | 0:48:18 | 0:48:20 | |
-it's going to be hard and I expected that. -Yeah. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:23 | |
-Uh-huh. -You've always said that, haven't you? -Uh-huh. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:26 | |
And I think you've been so... | 0:48:26 | 0:48:29 | |
-brave and so matter of fact about everything. -Yeah. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:34 | |
In reality, do you think it's going to be even harder than you anticipated, | 0:48:34 | 0:48:40 | |
-cos he's so...here and so lovely. -Oh, definitely. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:43 | |
Yeah, definitely. There's not really anything that can fully prepare you | 0:48:43 | 0:48:48 | |
for, you know, this...these feelings I'm...I expect to get. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:53 | |
-Right. -There's nothing really that can prepare myself | 0:48:53 | 0:48:56 | |
because this is like...this will be like one of the most hardest decisions | 0:48:56 | 0:49:00 | |
I've ever had to make in my entire life. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:02 | |
You both still feel... | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
like everything you've planned is what you still want to do? | 0:49:05 | 0:49:10 | |
Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to change my mind. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:12 | |
I know that. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
-Yeah. -I mean, if I could I would. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
Right. If we could, we would have already. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:20 | |
-But I'm not going to. -Amazing. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:23 | |
I'm just trying to soak in...this moment, I guess, | 0:49:23 | 0:49:27 | |
there are all these little moments | 0:49:27 | 0:49:30 | |
because I'm not going to be able to have those kind of moments for very much longer. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:35 | |
So that means a lot that I can just, like, sit here and stare at him. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:40 | |
-Hi. -Hello. How are you? | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
-Good. -Congratulations. -Thanks. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:48 | |
He's not bad is he? | 0:49:48 | 0:49:50 | |
-Not bad, that's the understatement of the year. -LAUGHTER | 0:49:50 | 0:49:54 | |
-He's crazy cute! -He's absolutely fabulous. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:57 | |
-Oh, yeah. -Fantastic! | 0:49:57 | 0:50:01 | |
I couldn't be happier. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:03 | |
-We were all surprised by his size, cos he was really big and the hair. -Uh-huh. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:09 | |
-Him being blonde. -There's so much of it as well. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:12 | |
-Yeah. -And you got to hold him soon after he was born? -Oh, yeah. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:16 | |
-I mean, that night really. -Yeah. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:18 | |
Yeah. Came in and held him for the first time, | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
gave him a little kiss on his head. And it was very, very magical. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:26 | |
Yeah. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:28 | |
Just...feeling very happy. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
APOLLO CRIES | 0:50:36 | 0:50:38 | |
Sh! Sh! | 0:50:38 | 0:50:40 | |
I can probably call and get some more blankets in. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:42 | |
-Yeah. Maybe a new changing pad too. -OK. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:45 | |
Three days after Apollo had been born, | 0:51:05 | 0:51:07 | |
Lindsay from the adoption agency had brought the legal papers for Josh and Brianna to sign. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:12 | |
-Hey. -Hey. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:16 | |
-How are you all? -Is that a pretty picture or what? | 0:51:16 | 0:51:20 | |
We're doing all right. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:22 | |
So how was the evening last night? | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
Erm...pretty emotional. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:27 | |
-Yeah? -Yeah. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:29 | |
Did you guys talk some? | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
Yeah. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:36 | |
I'd say Josh had more of a hard time last night | 0:51:36 | 0:51:38 | |
-and I had more of a hard time this morning. -Uh-huh. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
It was hard knowing that this morning's going to be, like, the last morning... | 0:51:41 | 0:51:45 | |
-..that he's ours, I guess. -Yeah. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:50 | |
So one of the really normal things to think about during this time is about parenting. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:54 | |
And, you know, we talked a little bit yesterday about what some of your thoughts were about that. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:59 | |
How are you guys feeling about that at this point? | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
Is that something that you've considered during this time or...? | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
-Well, no. -It's there in the back of our minds, we keep fighting that, yeah. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:10 | |
Like, yeah, I do want to be selfish and just say, "Screw this whole adoption thing," | 0:52:10 | 0:52:16 | |
but then again it's, like, I'm not doing this for me, | 0:52:16 | 0:52:20 | |
I'm doing this for him and I'm doing it for them. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:24 | |
We know that we've made a good decision | 0:52:24 | 0:52:26 | |
and that we just can't let our emotions get the best of us at the last moment cos we're scared. | 0:52:26 | 0:52:30 | |
"Prior to your child being placed with a family for the purpose of adoption, | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
"you'll need to sign a surrender, release and consent to adoption | 0:52:38 | 0:52:41 | |
"and a certificate of irrevocability and waiver. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
"Signing these two documents means that you have made a final decision to have your child adopted. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:50 | |
"You cannot change your mind or get the child back unless fraud or duress is proven in a court of law." | 0:52:50 | 0:52:54 | |
So essentially if you were tricked, if you can show that you were tricked into the adoption | 0:52:54 | 0:52:58 | |
-or that you were forced into it against your will. -Yeah. -Yeah. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:02 | |
-But he's always going to be mine too. -Yeah. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:04 | |
Even more sweet, it's OK. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:06 | |
Oh, really? It's not so much that he belongs to any of you guys, | 0:53:06 | 0:53:10 | |
-It's that you all belong to him. -Uh-huh. Exactly. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:14 | |
-Yeah. -That's a better way to look at it. -Yeah. | 0:53:14 | 0:53:18 | |
So he has all these great people in his life. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:21 | |
Nobody owns him, he's just his own person. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:24 | |
Sweet. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:31 | |
JOSH LAUGHS | 0:53:41 | 0:53:43 | |
-You OK? -Hmm. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
OK. I'm doing this for you, little guy. We love you. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:52 | |
And we care about you a lot. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:55 | |
BOTH SIGH | 0:53:55 | 0:53:57 | |
And... | 0:53:57 | 0:53:58 | |
I hope you'll see that someday. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
I just want the best for you. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:05 | |
Perfect! | 0:54:14 | 0:54:16 | |
The four parents had met up for an entrustment ceremony... | 0:54:18 | 0:54:22 | |
a symbolic event encouraged by the agency | 0:54:22 | 0:54:26 | |
where Brianna and Josh would give Apollo to his new dads. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
"Dear, Apollo. I am the adoption counsellor who had the honour | 0:54:30 | 0:54:33 | |
"of working with your parents and your birth parents, Brianna and Josh. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:37 | |
"Brianna and Josh love you very much and took great care | 0:54:37 | 0:54:40 | |
"in choosing Johnathan and Frank to be your parents. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
"May you have a joyful, wonderful life, Apollo, | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
"surrounded by all these incredible people who love and appreciate you." | 0:54:46 | 0:54:50 | |
"Dear son, I want you to know that I've always loved you and will always love you, | 0:54:50 | 0:54:55 | |
"I want the best for you and that's the toughest kind of love, | 0:54:55 | 0:54:59 | |
"giving you to someone who can do a better job for the time being. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
"I'll always try my best to be involved in your life | 0:55:03 | 0:55:06 | |
"as much as I can and as much as you would like me to be. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:10 | |
"I want the world for you | 0:55:10 | 0:55:12 | |
"and I believe you will become a great man someday. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:15 | |
"Love you always and for ever, love you infinity and beyond." | 0:55:15 | 0:55:20 | |
Me and my mum used to say that to each other, we still do. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:24 | |
-Oh! -Oh! | 0:55:24 | 0:55:26 | |
-At least we got some reactions. -Yeah. I know! | 0:55:26 | 0:55:30 | |
Oh, are you starting to wake up a little? | 0:55:30 | 0:55:33 | |
I was leaving the birth mums behind. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:44 | |
During my time with them, both mums had told me | 0:55:50 | 0:55:53 | |
that they hoped their children would see this film one day. | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
They felt it would give Creeda and Apollo a better understanding | 0:55:58 | 0:56:02 | |
of how they had come to make the biggest decision of their lives. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:06 | |
Next time, I'll be with the homeless of Detroit. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:24 | |
I want you to see the struggles I go through every single day, | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
knowing that you don't have nobody to help you, you don't have nothing. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:31 | |
There's every chance you could get stabbed or shot. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:34 | |
It just really hammers home | 0:56:34 | 0:56:36 | |
what it can mean to be homeless here in Detroit. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:39 |