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GREETINGS IN UKRAINIAN

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It's very difficult to cross to the other side of a street.

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It's very difficult to know whether one's being brave or reckless,

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and when one is being wise or being a coward.

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HE STARTS MACHINERY

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I like the smell and the feel of wood. It's nice stuff to handle.

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Um...and it's wonderful starting off, particularly if you have rough wood and you plane it all.

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You start off with rough planks and end up with something very beautiful at the end of it.

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I mean, this is knockabout woodwork, just making a packing case.

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I've always loved, um, using tools. I love using my hands.

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This particular shipment is five defibrillators...

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..an operating stool, which I've sat on during thousands of operations over the years,

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and now Igor will be able to sit on it and it will do active service

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in the Ukraine for many years to come, which is a nice thought.

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Nothing goes to waste.

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It is 15 years when Henry came to Kiev,

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and each time with the new ideas, with the new medical things -

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I mean, medical presents -

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some instruments, and screws,

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things like that. But after we became

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closer with each other,

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I understood that it is not a medical co-operation.

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It is much deeper,

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and we are much closer,

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his role in my life, so he is elder brother.

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Is elder brother.

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A BELL PEALS

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TRANSLATION:

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A DOG YAPS

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I first went out to Kiev in 1992,

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as I'd been asked to give some lectures on brain surgery there.

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When I was there,

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I visited one of the state hospitals and I was appalled

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to see a completely broken-down, bankrupt medical system.

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I was seeing medical problems, the like of which

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have not really been seen in the West for,

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at that time, maybe for 50 or 60 years.

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It was like going back in a time machine.

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And I remember talking to a Ukrainian doctor.

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I said I'd like to help, and he said, "It's a waste of time.

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"Anything you do is a drop in the ocean. The system will never change. Go away. You can't help."

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And I remember feeling, "Well, actually, no, I'm not going to accept that.

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"I can't really respect myself if, having seen so much suffering...

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"Surely I can do something to help."

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And then by chance, the next day, I met Igor.

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OK, it's my favourite painting.

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It's Ukrainian heroes, Cossacks, and we can compare

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Cossacks with neurosurgeons!

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There are many similarities between us,

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because they are happy because they won the battle,

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and the same happened with us

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after the successful surgery.

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Sometimes I suggest that I am in this place,

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and my colleagues sitting on the table.

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And, by the way, table means in surgery quite something,

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so it's Cossacks' table,

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but it can be surgical table also.

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So they are happy around the table,

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and we are also happy, and unhappy,

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around the neurosurgical table.

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So I like it very, very much.

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Because Igor was so extraordinary and so determined,

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he was basically questioning the official ideology of how medicine should be practised.

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-She is disabled...

-Yes.

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-..from the age of three years.

-Yes.

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WOMAN SPEAKS IN UKRAINIAN

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-Because there is a tumour.

-Yes.

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-There is no indications for neurosurgical treatment.

-Yes.

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'As he tried to make things better, not surprisingly,

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'he had endless problems. He had death threats at one point.

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'He was sleeping in a different room every night. His department was closed.

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'God knows how many times he was sacked, his staff were sacked.

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'There were endless official committees of inquiry,

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'and I couldn't very well abandon him. I'd sort of set him up -

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'I'd brought him to the West and said, "Look! Brave new world,

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' "full of wonderful things and modern equipment."

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'So the more his professional rivals and enemies tried to destroy him,

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'the more I felt obliged to support him.

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'So I wrote articles in Ukrainian newspapers.

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'I went out to Ukraine and did unprecedented operations.

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'I provided him with secondhand medical equipment,

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'in a funny sort of way, all because of people trying to squash him.'

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This is the loose bits...

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CONGREGATION SINGS

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Is it out the front? Right.

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You get started, Patrick, with the head position we discussed.

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That's fine.

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Where's...? Oh, perforators.

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Have you got some perforators?

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-They are kind of...

-They're what?

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-£100?

-100...

-Come on! That's what they said!

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Three, four, five. Thank you very much.

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-You're welcome.

-Thank you. I'll put those in my bag.

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-How many of these have you done before?

-I've done three.

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-Three? On your own or with one of the attendants?

-No, I did it.

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Well, because she's old, there should be loads of space.

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I have a very specific approach.

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So I'd have her...

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-See, like that.

-Yeah.

-Maybe a bit more...

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You'll find you're coming down almost vertically.

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-Presumably you used disposable perforators back then?

-Almost exclusively.

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I'm trying to reuse them in Ukraine for my friend Igor.

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Well, it needn't replace the plastic clip.

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DRILLING

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Yes, I'm not sure I'll be doing the operating myself.

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That's it, that's fine.

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I think you'll find that cracks now.

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The really difficult thing about neurosurgery is knowing when to operate.

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The actual operating isn't so difficult.

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But the really difficult thing is balancing the risks of the operation

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against the risks of not operating.

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It's a bit like Russian roulette with two revolvers -

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you've got one revolver called treatment or surgery,

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and the other revolver, which is no treatment.

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And you have... It's like that with the patient.

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And you have to decide which to go for.

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Marian's epilepsy is caused by a brain tumour,

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which ultimately will kill him if it's not removed.

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He's being told in Ukraine it's inoperable.

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I think I can save him,

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but there's a very real risk I could wreck him in the process.

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Would you want to lose your personality or your intellect

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or your ability to think?

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Cos that's the sort of risks we're talking about.

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I'm trying to fill up my job plan, but every time

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I'm given a different password.

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I'm supposed to specify every few minutes of the day where I am and what I'm doing,

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as I was at school.

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Let's try that. Wednesday, ward round...

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It can't do more than one activity.

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All right, another activity, maybe...

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I do many things a day, but for some reason you can only put one thing in.

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..administrative meetings.

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I feel I shouldn't have to justify my existence like this, either.

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Tried to change that... Oh, bloody hell!

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Just...

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"The appropriate operation was started..."

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Now, will that save?

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Oh-h, bloody hell!

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I really just can't stand it any longer.

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I'll just go away...

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Igor, it's Henry. Hello.

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Hi.

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Look, I'm looking at the scans on the boy from Zolochiv again.

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The possible craniotomy, yeah?

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It's a question of when I meet him,

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trying to assess whether he could cope with this -

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whether he'd find it very stressful or not.

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Having holes drilled in your head while you're awake,

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and then the sound of the saw - it's extremely noisy

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and actually quite violent as you have to hold the patient's head quite strongly.

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Is everything else all right otherwise?

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And the plans for a doctor to see Tanya's mother, is that OK?

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..Minus 13 degrees in the daytime on Friday?

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So it may feel a bit more like winter when I'm there.

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And I'm told it's going to be hell at Heathrow

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because of all the skiers going to Austria.

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-Which wouldn't have happened if...?

-No, if I flew straight to Kiev it wouldn't be a problem.

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Does anyone ski in Ukraine?

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STATION ANNOUNCEMENT

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I'm taking out some instruments again for Igor, old surplus ones,

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and I'm going to show him some very difficult operations he hasn't really done before.

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But what I'm thinking most about is going to see Tanya's mother.

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You might say why do I want to go and see the mother of a child who died several years ago?

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And I've had many patients who've died, many of them children.

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And I don't quite know the answer,

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but I just know I want to go and see Katya. I think about her and Tanya very often.

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Um...

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I suppose cos it was so much about hope,

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and failed hope, really.

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Um...

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..I can remember so clearly when I first met Tanya.

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She was very shy, and I remember she burst into tears when she was first brought into the room.

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She was very beautiful, but she had this lopsided face,

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cos half her face was paralysed because of the tumour.

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How could you see a young girl

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who was slowly dying from a brain tumour...

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..which in theory is curable, because it's not cancerous -

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how can you do nothing? How can you say, "Go away and die"?

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You'd say whatever the risks, whatever the costs, we've got to do something.

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Hope is more important than anything else in life.

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And as Katya said to me, "You gave us hope."

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And that's a very precious thing to give.

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Tanya's tumour was said to be inoperable in Ukraine,

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so I brought her to London.

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But things went horribly wrong.

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During the first operation, Tanya lost her circulating blood volume

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four times over. It was an appalling operation.

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There was a second operation,

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and I tried to remove the rest of the tumour,

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but everything went catastrophically wrong.

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Cos of my operations,

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she had a terrible last two years to her life - paralysed, disabled.

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It couldn't really have been much worse.

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So today Henry is coming,

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and our favourite topic, it's what is the meaning of the life?

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What to do?

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Is it means to... to become professor?

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Or what it means to become a minister of the public health service.

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Or is it better to be a good doctor?

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Just to be a good doctor.

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To see patients every day,

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to listen them and try to help them.

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Surgery is a risky business,

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but neurosurgery...it is 100 times more risky business.

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Marian came to our office.

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He is more or less...OK.

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But he can...can be...

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disabled, totally disabled, tomorrow or the day after tomorrow.

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And it...will be our wrong decision...

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It's a responsibility. It's a moral responsibility.

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-Ah, tired.

-Tired?

-Yeah, a bit tired.

-Quite tired.

-I got up at 2.30 in London.

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-And I came via Vienna.

-Why you chose Vienna?

-Because there was a strike.

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-I've got some amazing things for you in there.

-Really?

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Quite amazing! Oh, totally legal! I mean, it's fine!

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It's staggering what gets thrown away.

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You will not believe what I've got.

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-And how are you?

-Actually, I'm very well. It's always good to be here!

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Nice to escape the NHS,

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I can tell you!

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Oh, fantastic.

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The ambulance! How's your poor old car?

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At least two months to repair it.

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You said there was another investigation against you recently,

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in the hospital. What was the result of that?

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It is more or less normal to be investigated

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-in this country.

-Yeah.

-If you are successful,

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-it means that your life will be...

-Difficult.

-..difficult.

-Yep.

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We say in English, if you stick your head up above the parapet,

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above the wall, you are likely to have it cut off.

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Actually, although I've been to Ukraine so many times,

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-this is the first time I've seen the Dnieper frozen.

-Oh?

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It's exciting. I like that.

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It's very good. And it's going to be much colder this week, isn't it?

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Mm-hm.

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I suppose one of the most bizarre and ironic aspects

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of my work with Igor is that when I first met him,

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he was really a victim of the dictatorial Soviet medical system.

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But now, 15 years later,

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he's running a very humane clinic in rooms rented in the hospital run by the KGB.

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BELL RINGS

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And the explanation is that many things have changed in the Ukraine.

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The country is now a democracy.

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And the KGB are keen to support doctors

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who will carry Ukrainian medicine hopefully forwards to a new future.

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They even have a lunchtime karaoke concert for the staff.

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MUSICAL INTRO PLAYS

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I'll get my coat off. Well, it's still...

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I've been doing this for 15 years,

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but being faced by this whole corridor of people,

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most of whom are going to have quite horrendous neurosurgery -

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still I find it very frightening, in a way. Quite daunting.

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Hope - and a lot of it is going to be hope disappointed.

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I'm a last port of call.

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I sometimes feel I raise false hope by coming here.

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One thing, there are various things you asked me for. I think you'll be quite interested.

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Here are just a few...

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throwaway perforators.

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Do you know, they cost £80 each, and they're thrown away after one use.

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I'll take these all out,

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and you can leave them there.

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This is the Ojemann stimulator we'll need - I have to take that back to London.

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That's the cortical stimulator.

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-Special drills?

-Yep, they're all here. That's the drill bits.

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-There's even a craniotome.

-It's a nice toy.

-Oh, it's superb.

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And then you connect that there.

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Thank you, Henry.

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Right, well, look, if I could have some coffee, Igor Petrovich...

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HE SHOUTS IN UKRAINIAN

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Then maybe we should start seeing some patients.

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Otherwise Igor will be here all day, playing with the tools.

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Um... Oh!

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Thank you.

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You see, a chordoma destroys bone. This cannot be a chordoma, if you mean chordoma.

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HE SPEAKS UKRAINIAN

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-People...they stay outside...

-MOBILE RINGS

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-..in the queue...

-Oh, they're ringing you?

-Yeah!

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It's a child

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in their family.

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She is a grandma.

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I would judge that tumour to be inoperable, basically.

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I mean, it's in the brainstem.

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I'm afraid the child has less than a year to live.

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IGOR TRANSLATES

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Obviously, as parents and as grandparents,

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we find it very, very difficult to do nothing.

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It's very hard.

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IGOR TRANSLATES

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SHE ASKS A QUESTION

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So what to do? Something to do?

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My opinion is

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there is nothing to do but wait for the child to die.

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IGOR TRANSLATES

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Life can be very cruel.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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MOBILE PHONES RING

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Without surgery, she probably...

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she probably will die within the next five years or so.

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Surgery is safer than no surgery.

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And she will continue to... she will continue to get worse

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as time goes by.

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All these cases I'm seeing,

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I would operate on them all in London, without any hesitation.

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Sure, there are risks, but I would be reasonably confident.

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I'd be quite certain that the risks of treatment,

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the risks of surgery, were less than the risks of no surgery.

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But when you translate that into the circumstances here,

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it's different, and it's much more difficult to know.

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So in that sense, it's...it's very frustrating.

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There are all these salvageable people.

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Ah!

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So you're looking for a... In English, it's called a jubilee clip.

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-Yeah. Many things I bought in this place.

-Yes.

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-For the clinic.

-Oh, really? For the hospital. Yes.

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There we are.

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That was slightly better quality than the other one, I think.

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-It's better made. It's better metal...

-Very nice.

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They've got bearings here as well, which I need.

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I wish I knew the size. Did you buy your Bosch drill in a place like this?

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Er, yes.

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Do they do a 24-volt...?

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No, no.

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It's not really strong enough, that cordless drill, is it?

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Now, the problem with trying to remove all of the tumour

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is there is some risk, there is some danger,

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that the operation could leave you paralysed down the right.

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The tumour is on the left - the left side of the brain is responsible for the right side of the body.

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And there is a risk, if we try to remove all of the tumour,

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of producing paralysis of the right arm and the right leg.

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Usually, we have the patient under a general anaesthetic to begin with

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when we make the opening, the incision in the head and the bone.

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And then we wake the patient up and remove the tumour.

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So I think it would be simpler, and we have a better chance of success,

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if you are awake throughout the whole time of the operation.

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It makes the operation safer,

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because it makes the surgeon braver!

0:39:220:39:25

Because I know I can see what I am doing. I can see you,

0:39:250:39:29

I can talk to you,

0:39:290:39:31

I can ask you to move your arm and leg, and that gives us

0:39:310:39:34

a much, much better chance of removing all of the tumour.

0:39:340:39:38

There will then be about ten minutes, which is not painful, but is unpleasant.

0:39:460:39:51

That is when Dr Kurilets is sawing, cutting through the bone

0:39:510:39:56

of your skull. That is very noisy, and you'll feel the pressure of the drill pushing on your head.

0:39:560:40:03

Um, and that is unpleasant, but it's OK.

0:40:030:40:07

The only part of the head which feels pain is the skin.

0:40:110:40:14

That is all.

0:40:140:40:16

The brain itself does not feel pain.

0:40:160:40:19

So in a strange...in a strange way,

0:40:190:40:22

to remove a brain tumour under local anaesthetic

0:40:220:40:27

is no different from going to the dentist.

0:40:270:40:31

And I really, really think we can do this,

0:40:310:40:35

and I mean that from my heart.

0:40:350:40:38

-OK?

-OK.

-Harasho?

-Harasho.

0:40:380:40:40

Right. We have a plan.

0:40:510:40:54

-The most important, to put the plan into action.

-Yes.

0:40:550:41:00

Making plans, it's a Soviet...

0:41:000:41:03

-Yeah, all right.

-Soviet...

-Soviet National Health Service.

0:41:030:41:07

The National Health Service has nothing but plans now.

0:41:070:41:10

But making plans, it is nothing.

0:41:100:41:13

I've yet to have a...

0:41:440:41:46

a catastrophic result here in Ukraine but...

0:41:460:41:49

you know, I think the law...

0:41:490:41:51

Sooner or later, things are going to go badly.

0:41:510:41:56

But nothing ventured, nothing gained, I suppose.

0:41:560:42:00

However much you tell patients there is risk...

0:42:020:42:05

they never really take it in.

0:42:050:42:08

If you're very nice and charming with them, they will trust you

0:42:080:42:11

and think, "I'll be all right." That's human nature.

0:42:110:42:13

We all think, "It's never going to happen to me."

0:42:130:42:16

Are you ready to eat?

0:42:360:42:38

Uh...let us play for ten minutes first, if that's all right.

0:42:380:42:41

Look at this perforator. I'm sure we could use it dozens of times.

0:42:410:42:46

It may be you can just make a metal sleeve to go over it.

0:42:460:42:50

-You said your toolmaker has died, alas.

-Yes. From brain tumour.

-Yeah.

0:42:500:42:55

He did a lot of good work for you. He made the operating table as well.

0:42:550:43:00

And the bar for sitting position.

0:43:000:43:03

-He made that?

-Yes.

-That's very sad. He made it very nicely.

0:43:030:43:06

Need a pair of circlet pliers.

0:43:060:43:09

My department, I calculated - it's unbelievable -

0:43:100:43:13

-it spends £40,000 a year...

-A year?

-..just on those.

0:43:130:43:19

We use ten a week. They cost £80 each.

0:43:190:43:21

We must use at least ten a week.

0:43:210:43:23

Which is...

0:43:230:43:25

800 quid a week, times 50.

0:43:250:43:28

I mean, it's...

0:43:280:43:29

..extraordinary.

0:43:300:43:32

I use one for...

0:43:320:43:35

-ten years.

-Yeah, I know.

0:43:350:43:37

-So it is a plastic...

-There's a plastic thing there, yeah.

0:43:380:43:42

There's millions of pounds a year being thrown away.

0:43:420:43:45

If you had tungsten carbide tipped ones

0:43:450:43:48

like you have for a router in woodworking, it would last for ever.

0:43:480:43:51

-Now you've got the compressed air hose for the ventilator.

-Yes.

0:44:100:44:15

It fits.

0:44:150:44:17

I...

0:44:170:44:19

..made fixing here.

0:44:200:44:23

-So we will try.

-Bye-bye.

0:44:230:44:25

See you tonight.

0:44:250:44:27

Good luck.

0:44:270:44:28

Thank you.

0:44:280:44:29

You like my idea?

0:44:340:44:36

Yep, fine.

0:44:360:44:38

In England, I don't have to...

0:44:380:44:40

plumb in the ventilators myself. We have somebody else to do that.

0:44:400:44:44

You're just a one-man hospital.

0:44:440:44:47

My job is to do the operation.

0:44:470:44:50

-You're privileged.

-Yes.

-Very privileged.

0:44:500:44:53

I must be responsible for everything.

0:45:010:45:04

LIFT RUMBLES

0:45:040:45:07

It's a long journey.

0:45:070:45:08

Well, um...

0:45:080:45:10

50 seconds.

0:45:100:45:11

HENRY LAUGHS

0:45:110:45:13

So...hundred seconds...each day.

0:45:150:45:18

I saw some of those new apartment blocks they're building.

0:45:180:45:23

They're 40 storeys high.

0:45:230:45:25

Right, here we go.

0:45:270:45:29

A difficult day.

0:45:290:45:31

And can she see any light?

0:46:440:46:47

And is the light in her eye now?

0:46:470:46:50

Yes.

0:46:550:46:56

So she's not seeing light.

0:47:010:47:03

-I think...

-How much time we have?

-No, it's too late.

0:47:060:47:10

Totally blind. It's too late.

0:47:100:47:12

You have to operate for raised intracranial pressure

0:47:120:47:15

before they completely lose their eyesight.

0:47:150:47:18

Typical problem here, cos diagnosis is so often delayed,

0:47:240:47:29

and by the time a brain scan is done...

0:47:290:47:32

the damage is done.

0:47:320:47:35

Even with benign tumours, people have gone blind and suffered irreversible damage.

0:47:350:47:40

You get earlier diagnosis if you have more scanners,

0:47:400:47:43

but even though a brain scan in the Ukraine costs 50 to 100,

0:47:430:47:47

even 50 to 100 to many people here is a huge sum of money

0:47:470:47:50

and they can't afford it,

0:47:500:47:53

and so things get left. Left too late.

0:47:530:47:55

We cannot run good treatment of the patients

0:48:190:48:25

in...in our...hospitals.

0:48:250:48:30

How far away do you think you are from actually starting building your own hospital?

0:48:300:48:35

It depends on...on finance.

0:48:350:48:39

Yeah.

0:48:390:48:40

-And you had to borrow the money, presumably, from...?

-We can,

0:48:400:48:44

but it is very difficult to run clinic if you have...

0:48:440:48:49

-A large mortgage?

-Yes.

-Yeah.

0:48:490:48:52

From bank, so...

0:48:520:48:53

This will be a first in Ukraine.

0:48:530:48:55

So, here we are.

0:48:550:48:58

-Yep.

-That's the place.

0:48:580:49:00

Oh. What a dream, heh?

0:49:000:49:03

-Is it your dream?

-Yeah.

-Must be.

0:49:030:49:05

Your own hospital, Igor.

0:49:050:49:07

No, no! It's...

0:49:070:49:09

-That's a field.

-Yeah, I know, but...

-Now it's a field.

0:49:090:49:12

But it's a field of dreams.

0:49:120:49:15

Yes.

0:49:150:49:16

So...

0:49:160:49:17

This is where it'll be?

0:49:170:49:19

Isn't it fantastic?

0:49:200:49:23

So exciting.

0:49:230:49:25

Igor, this can be the ornamental lake...

0:49:250:49:28

-Yeah?

-..for the hospital.

0:49:280:49:30

HENRY LAUGHS

0:49:300:49:32

I like it.

0:49:320:49:33

-So the building will be there.

-Here?

-Will be here.

0:49:390:49:44

It's a water pipe.

0:49:440:49:46

Deep water pipe here.

0:49:460:49:49

And the patients' rooms will look onto the courtyard?

0:49:490:49:53

-Yes.

-And there'll be a garden in the courtyard?

-Yes.

-That's wonderful.

0:49:530:49:56

-The lake there...

-Yes.

-..so we can go there.

-And the lake is over here.

0:49:560:50:03

And concerning grass, I would prefer natural grass

0:50:070:50:13

-and not changing it.

-Yes.

0:50:130:50:16

It's filled with fish.

0:50:180:50:20

Be careful!

0:50:200:50:22

I'm not sure that it is strong enough.

0:50:220:50:25

It looks pretty thick to me.

0:50:250:50:28

-Are you happy?

-Yes, yes.

0:50:280:50:29

-Henry...

-It's all very, very exciting.

0:50:290:50:32

CAMERA CLICKS

0:50:320:50:34

Igor, it's so important to have good design in hospitals

0:50:370:50:40

cos hospitals are like prisons.

0:50:400:50:42

They are places where a small number of people are doing nasty things

0:50:420:50:46

to a large number of people.

0:50:460:50:49

Nice weather(!)

0:51:010:51:02

You do realise this is a very big, serious case, don't you?

0:52:290:52:32

The one we're going to do now.

0:52:320:52:34

Yes, Henry.

0:52:340:52:35

-A risky surgery.

-And the patient realises?

0:52:350:52:38

The problem is that if you run a successful clinic,

0:52:380:52:43

so nobody realises how risky surgery CAN be.

0:52:430:52:48

-Can be.

-I know. But you gotta tell them.

0:52:480:52:50

Yes, I told them.

0:52:500:52:52

-Told them. But they reply that...

-They go like that?

0:52:520:52:54

..that you...you...you had... good results.

0:52:540:53:00

We asked many patients, so we suggest that...

0:53:000:53:05

Yeah, but with simpler, smaller tumours. This is a terrible big tumour.

0:53:050:53:09

You become less enthusiastic with years.

0:53:090:53:12

What a load of crap! It's not that! It's just you're giving me more and more difficult...

0:53:120:53:16

You're showing me more and more difficult operations. That's the problem.

0:53:160:53:20

That's what it's about.

0:53:200:53:22

Every time I come, you show me a bloody more dangerous operation.

0:53:220:53:27

But you told that we should, step by step, make progress.

0:53:270:53:32

Yeah, but one day we're going to make a step too far.

0:53:320:53:35

Bloody Cossacks!

0:53:400:53:42

HENRY MUMBLES

0:53:420:53:45

Now that the die is cast, we're actually going to start the operation,

0:53:450:53:50

I cheer up a bit.

0:53:500:53:51

A certain amount of...

0:53:510:53:53

Whether it's blood lust or training, I'm not quite sure.

0:53:530:53:56

Surgery isn't just about rational altruism.

0:53:560:54:00

I mean, it's a blood sport, in a way.

0:54:000:54:03

Surgeons become surgeons for the excitement of it,

0:54:030:54:06

and the sort of fierce joy of operating.

0:54:060:54:09

So, in that sense, I suppose it is a slightly Cossack activity.

0:54:090:54:13

You know, a sort of brave Ukrainian heroism, things like that.

0:54:130:54:18

Right, well, off to battle.

0:54:200:54:22

Everything is possible.

0:54:440:54:47

Tell him it'll hurt a little bit, like being stung by a bee,

0:54:570:55:02

when he puts the local anaesthetic in there.

0:55:020:55:04

-Bomkee?

-Bomkee?

0:55:100:55:12

Bomkee is the word for bigger mosquitos.

0:55:120:55:15

A bigger bomkee is a bigger mosquito? Yes.

0:55:150:55:18

It's a Western Ukrainian word.

0:55:180:55:20

Dr Kurilets is a bomkee. He is a big mosquito. Many people think he is a mosquito.

0:55:200:55:25

He is a mosquito for the medical establishment. Aren't you, Igor?

0:55:250:55:29

MACHINE BEEPS

0:55:290:55:32

-That's fine. That's fine from this side, Igor. Is that all right for you?

-Yes.

0:55:340:55:39

Because this cage is rigidly fixed, he can do anything he likes.

0:55:390:55:44

No, no, no, not at all.

0:55:480:55:50

Dr Kurilets is quite happy up there.

0:55:500:55:52

I can hear something scratching.

0:55:540:55:57

It'll get very noisy when Dr Kurilets starts drilling,

0:56:140:56:18

cos the whole skull will act like the sound board of a piano.

0:56:180:56:23

So it'll be very, very loud.

0:56:230:56:25

DRILLING

0:56:320:56:34

A colleague of mine, a neurosurgeon, once did an experiment

0:56:450:56:49

where he had a colleague of his drill a hole in his head.

0:56:490:56:52

It was some scientific experiment

0:56:520:56:55

with putting an electric wire into the inside of his head

0:56:550:56:59

to measure the pressure.

0:56:590:57:00

I mean, crazy.

0:57:000:57:02

But he said it was very noisy,

0:57:020:57:04

having the hole drilled in his head.

0:57:040:57:07

-He can't hear anything.

-He can't?

0:57:080:57:10

Ah! That's interesting.

0:57:100:57:12

He can't hear our voice cos of the noise. Yes, yes.

0:57:170:57:19

Yeah.

0:57:190:57:21

I think the 24-volt version might be better, Igor.

0:57:210:57:25

DRILL SLOWS

0:57:250:57:27

The battery's a bit flat.

0:57:330:57:35

DRILL SLOWS FURTHER

0:57:350:57:38

DRILLING STOPS

0:57:390:57:41

-All the holes done.

-Good.

0:57:410:57:42

All right. Yeah.

0:57:420:57:45

Yeah, OK.

0:57:470:57:48

Igor's operating theatre is a little bit on the small side

0:57:570:58:01

for all the equipment in it.

0:58:010:58:04

Now...

0:58:040:58:06

SUCKING NOISE

0:58:100:58:12

What's he saying now?

0:58:130:58:15

-He's already used to these sensations.

-He's getting used to it? He's bored, yes!

0:58:150:58:19

He'll probably fall asleep. We'll have to abandon the operation!

0:58:190:58:23

-He'll fall asleep?

-No!

-He won't fall asleep?

-No.

0:58:310:58:33

HISS OF AIR

0:58:350:58:37

We're now...we're now...

0:58:370:58:38

Igor is now cutting through the skull.

0:58:380:58:40

LOUD DRILLING

0:58:420:58:45

To have a pulse rate of 70 while you're lying there

0:58:550:58:59

having your head sawn off is, um...

0:58:590:59:02

quite something!

0:59:020:59:03

We'll start removing the tumour in five, ten minutes.

0:59:090:59:13

That's the most important thing.

0:59:160:59:18

Igor, I'll go and get scrubbed up.

0:59:180:59:21

I'm feeling extremely tense at the moment.

0:59:210:59:24

Admittedly, I always do before serious operations.

0:59:240:59:27

I suppose it's like stage fright with experienced actors.

0:59:270:59:31

The worst of all surgical sins is complacency,

0:59:310:59:34

so a certain anxiety, I suspect, is necessary.

0:59:340:59:39

And yet it's always a critical moment -

0:59:390:59:42

will we be able to see the tumour clearly

0:59:420:59:45

and is it going to be straightforward or not?

0:59:450:59:48

Right.

0:59:480:59:50

Igor, hang on a moment. Let's have a look.

0:59:500:59:53

Where is the tumour?

0:59:530:59:55

-Maybe here.

-What do you mean, maybe here?

0:59:550:59:58

Thank you.

1:00:071:00:08

All right. Now, um... Yes, Igor, come and have a look.

1:00:081:00:12

I think we can tell the difference.

1:00:121:00:16

That's a little bit discoloured, but that's certainly abnormal.

1:00:161:00:19

We know from the scan there's a big vein. We'll try to preserve it,

1:00:191:00:23

but I think that'll be very difficult.

1:00:231:00:25

I think, probably, the edges of the tumour are like that.

1:00:251:00:29

So let's have the cortical stimulator now.

1:00:291:00:32

The leads plug in the front.

1:00:321:00:33

The two contacts... Put it there, facing up.

1:00:331:00:37

-Put it here?

-It doesn't matter. OK.

1:00:371:00:40

I'm going to touch an electrode on his brain.

1:00:401:00:42

He might feel his arm or his leg move, all right?

1:00:421:00:47

CRACKLING

1:00:471:00:50

All right?

1:00:501:00:52

Ah, got him! That's motor here, do you see?

1:00:531:00:57

OK, Marian, I'll make your hand jump.

1:00:571:01:01

It's like a doll with strings. Here we go. Ready? Watch.

1:01:011:01:04

There. See?

1:01:041:01:06

So we're in front of the motor strip.

1:01:061:01:08

No more, because I don't want to start a fit.

1:01:081:01:11

Marian, OK?

1:01:111:01:13

-OK. OK.

-Well done.

1:01:131:01:15

Right, we can turn that off now.

1:01:151:01:17

So what we need to do now is open it, which we know is safe here,

1:01:171:01:22

because the motor mapping, which was very easy,

1:01:221:01:25

has shown us where the motor is.

1:01:251:01:27

That's tumour.

1:01:271:01:28

Normal brain has the consistency of very smooth cream cheese,

1:01:311:01:37

fairly thick cream cheese,

1:01:371:01:41

and tumours make it rubbery.

1:01:411:01:43

It's slightly more rubbery and stickier and thicker.

1:01:431:01:46

-SUCKING NOISE

-This is all tumour, Igor.

1:01:461:01:50

Tumour?

1:01:501:01:51

-Karena?

-Yes?

1:01:511:01:53

You can tell Marian that the beastly tumour that has been ruining his life

1:01:531:01:58

for so many years, I'm now starting to remove it.

1:01:581:02:02

SUCKING NOISE

1:02:021:02:04

You can feel, with the sucker, that that is too firm.

1:02:041:02:09

That's possibly the edge. All this is tumour.

1:02:091:02:13

It's actually very nice.

1:02:131:02:14

This is very clear.

1:02:141:02:16

LOUD SUCKING NOISE

1:02:191:02:20

QUIETER SUCKING NOISE

1:02:321:02:35

See what his movements are like.

1:02:371:02:39

Marian is the reassuring check.

1:02:391:02:42

By seeing he can move his right side

1:02:421:02:46

as we continue, I know that I'm not producing any serious weakness

1:02:461:02:52

in his arm as I take the tumour out. Which makes me braver.

1:02:521:02:58

-Are you all right?

-Yeah.

-OK.

1:03:021:03:04

He's having a fit.

1:03:131:03:14

He's having a fit?

1:03:141:03:16

A big fit? Is Obsidenenko there?

1:03:161:03:18

Is he having a fit?

1:03:241:03:26

What's he saying?

1:03:281:03:30

He's... I don't know. He's strange to me.

1:03:301:03:33

Can somebody sort him out, please? I can't sort him out. Is he having a fit at the moment?

1:03:351:03:40

Could he talk to him and see if he thinks he's all right?

1:03:441:03:48

Dry throat. Can we give him a drink?

1:04:111:04:14

Yes. Can we give him some water, please, to wet his throat?

1:04:141:04:18

-So, Marian, OK?

-OK.

1:04:281:04:31

Everything all right? Is he in pain? Or is he fairly comfortable?

1:04:311:04:35

-No more? Is he all right?

-Yeah.

1:04:391:04:42

Everything is going fine. I'm happy.

1:04:421:04:45

Everything is fine.

1:04:451:04:47

When we're thinking or talking,

1:05:071:05:10

that is billions of electrical impulses

1:05:101:05:13

travelling along all these nerve fibres,

1:05:131:05:17

but I always find it virtually impossible, even when the patient's awake,

1:05:171:05:21

to look at the physical substance of the brain we're operating on,

1:05:211:05:26

and I can't really comprehend that this is thought itself.

1:05:261:05:30

Feeling itself.

1:05:301:05:32

It's just too crazy and extraordinary.

1:05:321:05:35

But that's what it is.

1:05:351:05:36

And that is the absolutely incontrovertible evidence of modern neuroscience.

1:05:361:05:43

Thought is a physical process.

1:05:431:05:45

We are our brain.

1:05:451:05:47

-All right, Igor?

-Yeah.

1:05:501:05:52

-Igor?

-He just moved.

1:06:061:06:07

-His hand...

-He's moving all right, is he?

-Yeah.

-Good.

1:06:071:06:11

Tell Marian I've removed the tumour.

1:06:111:06:14

The tumour is gone. Hurrah!

1:06:171:06:19

Let us hope a new life can begin, hey?

1:06:231:06:26

We hope. We say in English, "Fingers crossed."

1:06:261:06:29

Fingers crossed!

1:06:291:06:31

Oh... Yeah, yeah.

1:06:361:06:39

OK.

1:06:391:06:40

Thank you.

1:06:421:06:44

OK.

1:06:491:06:51

OK?

1:06:521:06:55

..Full stop.

1:07:221:07:23

-Are you tired?

-No, not particularly.

1:07:371:07:39

-Hello.

-Irena, good evening.

1:07:391:07:42

Mr Marsh.

1:07:421:07:43

Hello.

1:07:431:07:45

He's very tired.

1:07:451:07:47

I'm not very tired!

1:07:471:07:50

I've just got a stiff back, that's all.

1:07:501:07:53

So am I.

1:07:531:07:55

Oh...

1:07:551:07:57

The beer will be here.

1:07:571:08:00

Domestic goddess, full-time cardiologist

1:08:001:08:03

and domestic goddess... Oh...

1:08:031:08:05

What?

1:08:051:08:07

It went all right today. It was a big, big tumour.

1:08:071:08:10

-And how is the patient?

-He's all right.

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Is there a bottle-opener in there, Igor?

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-Here you are.

-Thank you very much.

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I have now taught you everything I know about brain surgery.

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You're a wonderful teacher.

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You've now picked my brain clean.

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The only problem... The only problem...

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that we can kill patients.

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-Yes.

-With it.

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And probably will. That's the problem.

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In Ukrainian conditions, a few deaths, medically, are acceptable.

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The tumours are so big and the conditions so difficult,

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but politically, only you can decide whether...

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Thank you ever so much, Irena.

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And they will advertise the bad case...

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-Well, your very good health.

-Thank you.

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Well, if it's not too cold next week,

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I would like to go down to Kamjanetsk-Podolski if possible.

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It would be important for me because Tanya was quite an important part of my life in many ways,

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and I still think about her and her mother a lot.

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-Yes, indeed. It was a lesson for us.

-Yes. Yes, it was.

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It was a very important lesson.

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-Intensive care here?

-Yeah.

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-There Marian is.

-Mr Marsh.

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Marian.

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THEY SPEAK IN UKRAINIAN

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Hello.

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OK?

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Any fits at all?

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No fits.

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Arms up in the air.

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Turn the palms around.

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Right round. Close your eyes.

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That's very good.

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There's no significant... That's fine.

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So he's fine. He's going to be all right.

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The only question now is if we've abolished the epilepsy.

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I think we almost certainly have, but we have to wait.

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We can sit him right now?

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Yes, yes, of course. He can get up and about.

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-Can he walk?

-He can do anything he likes now.

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Get him up and about.

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He'll feel a bit... He'll feel a bit dizzy,

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because he's been lying flat for the last day. But that's fine.

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What is...what is his treatment?

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Intravenous...?

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-Nothing.

-Nothing?

-Nothing.

1:12:051:12:08

So...it was a last chance for him.

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Yes.

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It looks better in the scan.

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Although it's probably a low-grade glioma.

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Has she developed epilepsy?

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Why was the scan done?

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This, to me, looks like liomatosis.

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It's a widely infiltrating, diffuse low-grade glioma.

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Is it possible in her age...?

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-What, to get...?

-23.

-Oh, yes. Yeah.

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What is her future?

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Um...not good.

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You cannot remove the tumour by surgery because it is too extensive.

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What can we advise her?

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Well, I... Nothing, I think, is the honest answer.

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I think, what would I do in London?

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Well, we'd do a biopsy operation and then refer her to my oncological colleagues.

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But, no, the prognosis is... is not a good one.

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How many years it will take...?

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I would have thought less than five.

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But she'll probably go blind first.

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But I don't know if it's appropriate to tell her that or not.

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She said that maybe it is a viral infection

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-because she was biting...

-Bitten by an insect. Hmm.

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-Encephalitis.

-Hmm.

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Is it possible?

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It's unlikely, but if that belief gives her some hope and happiness

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maybe it's better to stick with that possibility.

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-I do not know what to say.

-I don't know...

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When I break really bad news to patients,

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I don't talk to them on their own.

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It's a complicated business. You have to find out what they know,

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what they fear, what they understand.

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It's not an easy... You can't just say, "This is a bad tumour. Goodbye."

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It takes time, and I think you need other members of the family present, as well.

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-We must give some hope.

-Yes, I know. Exactly, exactly. It's all we can do.

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The reality is, although she's young and beautiful

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and looks very well,

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the reality is, she's going to go blind

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and die probably within the next two or three years.

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None of us, all human beings, we cannot look our own...

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Particularly at that age. You can't look your own death in the face

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and shrug it away. You can't.

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So a lot of dealing with people with inoperable brain tumours

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is giving hope when there isn't really any hope.

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So there's a lot of...not exactly dishonesty involved,

1:16:361:16:40

but a lot of...

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You know...

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..avoiding the truth but trying not to lie, but it's terrible.

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INAUDIBLE

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I made what I felt, in retrospect, was a big mistake many years ago

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when I saw a young child, Tanya,

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with about the biggest brain tumour I'd ever seen.

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It was a benign tumour, so in theory it was curable.

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But again, the diagnosis had been missed and delayed.

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In a sense, I was being sentimental.

1:18:541:18:56

I had been swayed by emotion.

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But it's so very difficult to cross to the other side of a street.

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It's so very difficult to say no.

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And I remember the time when Katya first started visiting us....

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-Yeah.

-..in emergency hospital.

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And, um, you was frightened... what to do,

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-and what will happen with the child.

-Yes.

1:20:181:20:22

I think about the whole story quite a lot,

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because, in a sense, I think it was a mistake to have operated.

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If it happened again, I would say no...

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I think, probably, it's too...

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Well, I THINK I'd say that.

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But one always hopes, doesn't one?

1:20:411:20:45

Mr Marsh!

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Katya.

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Right, we brought some flowers.

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Translate a bit, Igor.

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It's like a dream.

1:22:201:22:21

You can tell, can't you, I was quite worried!

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I was quite nervous. I've been feeling quite nervous as well.

1:22:291:22:33

-Where shall we all sit?

-The table is ready.

1:22:481:22:51

Looks wonderful.

1:22:511:22:52

Some photographs of Tanya on the wall there, I see.

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Yes.

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And the hydrotherapy in the bottom one.

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One of her physios.

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It's wonderful. I love it.

1:23:501:23:52

They are afraid the... There's something wrong!

1:23:521:23:55

The food is wonderful. I'm just overcome by emotion.

1:23:551:23:58

That's why I'm not eating very much at the moment.

1:23:581:24:01

-He is too young.

-Too young!

-Too young.

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Too upset - understood.

1:24:521:24:54

She will drink for us and er, maybe we should drink for her family.

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-Yes.

-Tanya. Misha.

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Well, I'll make a toast - would you like to translate, Igor?

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I've been coming to Ukraine now for 15 years...

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IGOR TRANSLATES

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And in many ways I've come to love this country as much as my own.

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And Igor and I have been working together for all that time

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trying to make progress, treating patients with neurosurgical problems.

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And sometimes we succeed, and sometimes we fail.

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IGOR SPEAKS IN UKRAINIAN

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Well, I'd like to drink to all your future successes.

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And we'll never stop trying to make things better.

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IGOR SPEAKS

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WOMAN:

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THEY MAKE TOASTS

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I don't know whether I'll be thinking about anything when I die,

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but the way I see things at the moment, I'll know that what I will think mattered most

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was how I tried to help Igor and his patients and I'll think about Tanya and I'll think about Katya.

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What are we if we don't try to help others? We're nothing.

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Nothing at all.

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