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One morning in April, I took a train from Moscow to a town | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
called Gagarin. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
This is where the popular version of how the Russians conquered space begins, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
in the otherwise non-descript town they've named after their hero. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:52 | |
On April 12th 1961, Yuri Gagarin became the first human being to go into space. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:03 | |
It was the height of the Cold War. No-one could say it wasn't a triumph for communism. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:11 | |
It was a new emotion which is impossible, I think, to describe in detail. It was... | 0:01:11 | 0:01:16 | |
HE INHALES | 0:01:16 | 0:01:17 | |
Something really great for everybody happened, | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
and perhaps a little hope that new times started from this day. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:32 | |
But all this razzmatazz tells only half the story. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
Finding out about the other half, the unspoken half, | 0:01:43 | 0:01:48 | |
took me on a strange journey, | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
a journey into a Russian world | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
where mysticism and science merge, and nothing is certain, not even death. | 0:01:54 | 0:02:00 | |
-So their heads are down underneath there, are they? -Yes. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
It doesn't make sense to die because it's not pleasant, it's not nice, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
nothing good happens out of it, at least for the person who dies. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
What links the two is a dream of the future... | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
..in which science would make us all immortal... | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
..and supermen would rule the universe. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:29 | |
# I feel like I'm knocking on heaven's door | 0:02:29 | 0:02:34 | |
# Knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
# Knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door... # | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
It was not where I expected to start a story on space. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
But this is the only place where you can find a statue in the main street | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
to the man some people say is the true father | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
of space travel in Russia. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
No, not him. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
This man, a 19th-century sage called Nikolai Fedorov, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:09 | |
and the inspiration of a uniquely Russian view of the world, called cosmism. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
-Alexander! -Hello! | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
What's that? | 0:03:20 | 0:03:21 | |
Show it off. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:22 | |
IN RUSSIAN: | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
Alexander Boiko is a cosmist. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
Some of the movement's early heroes adorn the walls of the town. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
The core of their idea was that the whole universe is alive, and man is inseparable from it. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:04 | |
And this is now. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
The current queen of cosmism held court, we discovered, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:37 | |
in a children's library. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
Her name is Anastasia Gacheva. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
That's Fedorov, and would you believe it, he came from a long line | 0:04:49 | 0:04:54 | |
not of Fedorovs, but of princes called Gagarin. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
IN RUSSIAN: | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
And it was the wide horizons around that oak tree, said Anastasia, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
which first inspired Fedorov to think beyond the limit. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
Wow. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:10 | |
'Anastasia said she had something she wanted to show me. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:16 | |
'Not old documents about Fedorov as I expected, but a 50-year-old front page | 0:06:16 | 0:06:21 | |
'announcing that the Soviet Union had just put a man into space.' | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
"The captain of the first spaceship, it's ours, Soviet." | 0:06:25 | 0:06:31 | |
"A great victory for thought and hard work." | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
"The world applauds Yuri Gagarin." | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
YURI GAGARIN IN RUSSIAN: | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
Anastasia said she had a friend she thought I should meet. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
He was hard to miss, even in the Moscow traffic. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
His name was Valery Borisov, and apparently he knew everything | 0:07:35 | 0:07:40 | |
there was to know about Fedorov's domestic life. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
But Fedorov led a double life, | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
working in places like this, living like a pauper. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
And he ate like a saint, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
said Valery, just bread, tea and water. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
Devout Christians like Fedorov faced a dilemma in those days. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:54 | |
Outside the churches, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
society hovered on the cusp between ancient and modern. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:01 | |
Most of them feared that science would destroy their religion. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:06 | |
Fedorov's genius was to enlist it in support. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:12 | |
Valery had invited me to visit him in his garden. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
It turned out to be less of an organic creation, more of a dream world. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:30 | |
In fact, most of the things in his cosmic garden looked dead. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:56 | |
Was it just the cruelty of April, I wondered, or a symbol? | 0:10:03 | 0:10:08 | |
Sublime - but what had it got to do with space, I asked? | 0:10:38 | 0:10:43 | |
GUITARS PLAY MOURNFUL TUNE | 0:11:04 | 0:11:09 | |
Don't think cosmism has died its own death in the modern world. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
I was on my way to meet someone who had a business plan for eternal life. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:24 | |
SPEECH OBSCURED BY RUSSIAN SINGING | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
Not exactly a gateway to paradise. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
Hi. Hello. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
'The man who greeted me was called Danila Medvedev. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
'His group call themselves Transhumanists. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
'They believe they can do what Fedorov promised. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
'Live forever thanks to science.' | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
This is a temporary dry ice storage box, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:06 | |
or cooling box, can be used for that as well. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
-You put a body in for how long? -A couple of months we use this one. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:13 | |
This is a small one, so we give the... | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
You know, those patients who stored only their head or a brain here. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
What, so you get the body and cut their head off, do you? | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
-Yes. -Yeah. I see. So is there one in there now? | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
Yes. There are a couple of patients there and they have been here for five years. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
-Oh, really? -Yes. -OK. Is it possible to look? | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
Yes. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:34 | |
-So, the heads are down underneath there somewhere? -Yes. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
They are. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
Beyond that is liquid nitrogen, and submerged in liquid nitrogen are metal containers | 0:12:48 | 0:12:54 | |
for the patient's heads or brains inside. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
Confident fellow, to call them patients! | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
Most people tend to feel that if something is impossible today, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
it will never be possible in the future. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
We have the opposite way of thinking. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
We think that some technologies, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:13 | |
some different things we want to happen | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
can basically be taken for granted. Just not now, in the future. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:20 | |
Outside, it was like a set from some dystopic movie. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
He'd come to cryology, he told me, from investment banking. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:31 | |
What do you want to be immortal for? | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
I just don't want to die. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
It doesn't make sense to die, because it's not pleasant, it's not nice, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:41 | |
nothing good happens out of it, at least for the person who dies. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
-Wouldn't you get bored? -No. I wouldn't get bored so much | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
that it would make eternal life bad on balance. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:53 | |
And now we store the patients here in this container. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:59 | |
But bodies to Danila are already yesterday's technology. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:05 | |
His version of Fedorov's dream is to upload his identity into a computer file | 0:14:05 | 0:14:10 | |
and live forever in cyberspace. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
Transhumanists don't care about having a body, they care about becoming post-humans. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
As we get closer and closer | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
to actually becoming post-humans, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
uploading ourselves into computers, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
then it doesn't actually matter where your brain resides, because | 0:14:23 | 0:14:29 | |
it's run inside a computer and it doesn't matter if the computer is inside the moon or inside the Earth. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:35 | |
Somehow I felt Fedorov might have had something more spiritual in mind. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
I think the general idea is we are | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
following his plan that science find a way to deal with death, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
and we're doing that. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
Would there still be good and evil in your futuristic world? | 0:14:49 | 0:14:54 | |
I don't think that if you have sufficient intelligence you can have evil, | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
because usually evil happening in the world is the result | 0:14:58 | 0:15:04 | |
of either lack of intelligence or lack of other resources. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
So smart people who have healthy brains, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:13 | |
they don't commit bad things if they have enough resources. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
So it would be a world for rich, healthy people, would it? | 0:15:16 | 0:15:21 | |
It would be a world of rich, healthy people, not for rich, healthy people. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
'That's revisionism for you...' | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
I headed back into the 19th century, | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
to the great Rumyantsev Library over the road from the Kremlin. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
As a special favour, Anastasia had arranged for me to be taken up to the very top, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:47 | |
through the roof rafters to the balcony, from which Fedorov had contemplated the heavens. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:52 | |
What a view. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
No wonder his thoughts turned to space travel. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
A sort of mystical mission control. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
Fedorov, it was emerging, had an obsession with controlling things, very Russian. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:32 | |
We went down to the reading room. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
For 20 years, Fedorov worked here as a senior librarian. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
Today's librarian brought some rare old papers out | 0:17:11 | 0:17:16 | |
from the vault for me to see. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
'The common task. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:29 | |
'That was what he called the search for eternal life through science.' | 0:17:29 | 0:17:34 | |
Gosh, I can't read it. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
But I think I can read that. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
Universal... | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
That's resurrection... | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
Too hard for me. My friend Theresa did rather better. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
This line which separates the two parts of the join | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
seems to say, "The transition from blindness and lack of ability | 0:17:54 | 0:17:59 | |
"to be in charge of your own destiny, to self-direction, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:05 | |
"self-regulation and self-government." | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
And when you cross that line, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
then you're in the ideal world where you have the resurrection of everybody, | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
the unification of worlds. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
Fedorov wrote very little down. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
What makes him significant is the influence he had on other great thinkers. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:24 | |
This is actually a letter written by Dostoevsky, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
and it's written to Fedorov's pupil, and it says here, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:45 | |
"I have just become acquainted | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
"with the ideas of this great thinker | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
"and I would very much appreciate that you could convey to him how much | 0:18:49 | 0:18:54 | |
"his ideas have absolutely enthralled me." | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
Then he's saying that, "When I read these ideas | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
"and when I understand what they mean, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
"I feel as though they're completely part of me, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
"that they are close to my heart, they could be mine." | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
Dostoevsky. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
That's Dostoevsky, about Fedorov's philosophy and ideas. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
But the person who injected those ideas into the bloodstream of Russian science | 0:19:14 | 0:19:20 | |
was a near-deaf teenager | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
who came here to study because he couldn't keep up at school. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
His name was Konstantin Tsiolkovsky. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
For three years, Fedorov helped the young Tsiolkovsky | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
choose books to improve his mind. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
This is the park in Moscow that celebrates the official story of space. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
Pride of place among the steel and granite memories goes to that same deaf boy, Konstantin Tsiolkovsky. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:24 | |
The kids must think he thrived under the regime that erected this monument, but it simply isn't true. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:36 | |
For most of his life, Tsiolkovsky lived in the sticks, unrecognised, unrewarded. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:42 | |
And there he would probably have stayed but for one extraordinary insight. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:47 | |
I was looking for an article about rocket propulsion | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
that Tsiolkovsky had published in the very year that Fedorov died. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
This is why it's famous. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
Look at the date. 1903. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
May. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
An article published in an obscure science journal in Russian. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:16 | |
Full of calculations for deciding how much you need to | 0:21:16 | 0:21:22 | |
propel the rocket, what speed you need to get to, what fuel you need | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
to get out of the Earth's atmosphere. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
And amazingly, he wrote that seven months before the Wright Brothers had even flown a yard. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:38 | |
But virtually no-one took any notice. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
To find out why, I made my way to a dacha outside Moscow. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:50 | |
Inside was Alexander Urnov, grandson of the man who helped save | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
Tsiolkovsky's stroke of genius from oblivion. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
Hi. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:04 | |
Morning. Would you like some? | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
I'd love some. That'd be great. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
-Thanks. -This is just my grandfather. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
Let's see. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
-And this is your grandfather as well, is it? -Yes. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
In those days, Boris Vorobyev was quite a man about town. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
He lived in this house off Pushkin Square. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
He was into every new trend. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
We lived in the same apartment. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
His room was called Dedovo Komnata - | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
grandfather's room, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
and we came, my brother and me, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
from time to time, to him, and got him a lot of questions. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:46 | |
As the transport revolution advanced, his grandfather | 0:22:48 | 0:22:53 | |
decided to launch a magazine specialising in aviation. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
Somebody said to him that there is one dreamer who thinks about | 0:22:56 | 0:23:01 | |
exploration of the space and flights to the moon. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
He bought him a letter inviting him to write something for his journal. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
And Tsiolkovsky wrote a very detailed paper | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
saying that yes, he has materials, he has scientific works | 0:23:11 | 0:23:17 | |
and about explorations of space, not only aviation, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
but much larger, universe, I would say. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
Editorial board will shock this person, he's thinking about | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
exploration of universe, because at that time, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
it seems to be much more important problems on the Earth. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:37 | |
Indeed there were. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
Russia was entering the death throes of its imperial age. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
But the paper was published, and Tsiolkovsky wrote to thank Alexander's grandfather. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:49 | |
This letter from Tsiolkovsky started with the words that... | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
This person is speaking like a prophet, and it's true, he became a prophet, actually. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:13 | |
Once again, his article went unnoticed, submerged | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
beneath the turmoil of revolution. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
But with peace came a brief utopian period, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
when to dream of new worlds | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
seemed perfectly normal. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
This period of the '20s, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
starting from the revolution, it was a spirit of the time. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
You know, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
people... | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
were enthusiastic about changing of everything. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:50 | |
This is one of the places the intellectuals of the new age used to meet. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:59 | |
An arts centre then, and an arts centre of sorts now. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:04 | |
The band call themselves Cosmis, retro-utopians. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
But back in the '20s, the place was full of the real thing, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:25 | |
artists, musicians, writers, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:26 | |
poets and filmmakers who found the idea of cosmism intoxicating. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:31 | |
They queued round the block when Aelita, Queen of Mars came out in 1924. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:41 | |
For example, very rich people and very famous people, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
they supported Bolsheviks, just spent money, funding, etc, | 0:25:44 | 0:25:49 | |
because everybody would like change what we see now here... | 0:25:49 | 0:25:54 | |
into something different. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
So people were going to make trips to unknown places to discover something. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:06 | |
It was great enthusiasm. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
And it was an atmosphere in which Tsiolkovsky would at last prosper. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
-Let me see that. -It's his grandson. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
Oh, really? Tsiolkovsky and his grandson. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
-Yeah. -Gosh. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
-That's a rare photo. -This is unique. -What does it say on the back? | 0:26:28 | 0:26:33 | |
Konstantin Tsiolkovsky, 71, with his grandson. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:38 | |
In his old age, his ideas for space travel | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
were finally being taken seriously. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
But Utopia was over. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
He cannot be a philosopher because it was a period | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
when we had only one philosophy, Marxist philosophy, | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
so you should be very cautious. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
Either you became very famous, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
it means that Stalin will look at it positively, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
or you just will be imprisoned and killed. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
Tsiolkovsky didn't care. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:17 | |
He knew he was near the end anyway, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
but he did want a state pension to look after his wife. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
Somebody gave him an idea to write a letter directly to Stalin. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
And it seems to be he did it, and Stalin answered. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
And since this answer was made from Stalin directly, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:37 | |
even Stalin wrote in Russian... | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
So he got his pension, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
a medal, and two years later, a grand state funeral. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
The space establishment is celebrating Cosmonauts' Day. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:06 | |
Many of these people have spent their entire working lives in total secrecy, making rockets | 0:28:09 | 0:28:14 | |
but to launch warheads more often than men. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
This was their annual happy hour celebrating their heroes, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:31 | |
though not quite in the way I was expecting. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
I saw Georgi Gretchko in the audience. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
He was one of the first Russians to walk in space. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
He told me something intriguing. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
When he was young, many of the books by the man they now called | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
the father of space travel were virtually banned. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
And why was that? | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
# Baby, do you understand me now? | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
# Sometimes I feel a little mad | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
# But don't you know that | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
# No-one alive can always be an angel | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
# When things go wrong | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
# I seem to be bad | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
# I'm just a soul whose intentions are good | 0:30:03 | 0:30:08 | |
# Oh, Lord | 0:30:09 | 0:30:10 | |
# Please don't let me be misunderstood. # | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
This is the city where Tsiolkovsky lived for most of his life, | 0:30:13 | 0:30:20 | |
fretting about money and the future of mankind. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
I'd arranged to meet his great-grandson Sergei Samburov. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
Understandably perhaps, he wanted to meet at the great Museum of Space | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
they've built in Tsiolkovsky's honour. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:39 | |
Tsiolkovsky died before a scrap of this stuff was built, of course. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:48 | |
But the myth is everything. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
Tsiolkovsky is establishment now, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
and so up to a point is his great-grandson, who has a good job in the prestigious space industry. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:59 | |
After a few minutes looking around, he said there was something he wanted to show me, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:07 | |
in the park along the road. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
What is this place? | 0:31:09 | 0:31:10 | |
Monument to an incorrect philosopher. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:21 | |
I asked Sergei which would be most important to him - | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
his rockets, or his blueprint for the human race? | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
This house became a shrine for every Russian cosmonaut. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:54 | |
This is where Tsiolkovsky sat, | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
and where, as cosmonauts who are going into space, as a special favour, they're allowed to sit. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:03 | |
Tsiolkovsky, unlike Fedorov, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:34 | |
never stopped writing on whatever engaged his inquisitive mind. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:39 | |
But a recurrent theme was how to save humanity when the planet died. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:44 | |
This is a man who would have fitted the bill. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:19 | |
The old Cold Warriors were paying their respects to the engineer who led them into space. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:26 | |
On the face of it, Sergei Korolev was like them, | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
shunning the limelight to serve the state. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
But would he tell us his name? | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
I went to see Korolev's daughter | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
who lived on the 14th floor of a smart block of flats in the centre of town. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:15 | |
She sat down to show me the family photographs. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
Korolev and his friends had caught the space bug | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
that was sweeping Russia. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
But their work had nothing to do with the Soviet state. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
The turning point came | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
when a shrewd general spotted the military potential. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
They got a small grant to rent the cellar of that building. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
The half-truths of hindsight. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
What actually happened was their military protector fell from grace. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:46 | |
And on June 27th 1938, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
the Secret Police turned up at the Korolevs' flat on the top floor of this building. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:55 | |
Did he think he was going to be executed? | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
One minute a bright young hope for the future, | 0:37:38 | 0:37:44 | |
the next, hard labour, in one of the worst camps in the Gulag. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | |
The man who saved his life, ironically, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
was the Secret Police boss, Lavrentii Beria, on the right. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:13 | |
He saw that using the state's best scientists to break rocks | 0:38:13 | 0:38:19 | |
or build railways wasn't exactly in the national interest. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
So he had him transferred to Moscow. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
I found the place where he was sent, | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
here on Radio Street. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
That's the building, a sort of prison laboratory for brainy traitors. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:35 | |
The plaque says that the famous aircraft designer Andrei Tupolev | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
worked here for years. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
What it doesn't say is that he too was a prisoner, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
charged with wrecking state enterprises. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
The only fresh air Korolev got then was up there on the roof. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:53 | |
Now he stands in the park, showered in Soviet honours, | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
but deep down, I wondered, | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
had this supremely practical man | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
shared any of the incorrect tendencies of his granite companion? | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
But even if the only immortality he dreamed of was fame, | 0:39:38 | 0:39:43 | |
that great day still had a bitter taste. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:47 | |
And Korolev wasn't the only person with mixed feelings. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
Fedorov's followers still have their eyes on a bigger prize. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
In the optimistic aftermath of Gagarin's flight, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
building accelerated on a new town in the Siberian forest. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:56 | |
It's called Akademgorodok. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
It was built as a place for scientists | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
to live as one big community, as a place for generating ideas. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:08 | |
They wanted to create a paradise | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
for scientists, so that they would feel safe and comfortable here. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:19 | |
Artem was taking me to ISRICA, a research institute | 0:41:19 | 0:41:24 | |
where the DNA of Tsiolkovsky and Fedorov has survived everything. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
-Do you know much about ISRICA itself? -I know what my mum's been doing. -What's that? | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
She's been trying to figure out ways | 0:41:32 | 0:41:37 | |
of distant communicating between | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
the human mind and, er, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:47 | |
other cosmic consciousnesses | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
in the universe. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
Gosh, I see, so how to communicate | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
from someone on Earth | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
to some sort of being elsewhere. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
Right. Right. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
His mother and the boss, Alexander Trofimov, were in the middle of an experiment. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:17 | |
On my right, a large aluminium wall. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
In front of it, a technician monitoring brainwaves. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
Their theory is that objects | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
give out information about themselves. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
They've placed one inside what they call the transmission zone. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
And there is the receiver. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
They call the chamber that Anton sat in a Kozyrev Mirror, | 0:43:45 | 0:43:49 | |
named after an astrophysicist who spent 11 years in the Gulag. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:54 | |
Cut off from other scientists, | 0:43:54 | 0:43:58 | |
he developed his own unorthodox theories. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
One was that all cosmic matter is ceaselessly communicating with itself. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:06 | |
And what they believe here is that laser beams | 0:44:06 | 0:44:10 | |
and anti-magnetic chambers like this | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
help them tune into that information network. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:17 | |
One of their heroes is Vladimir Vernadsky, | 0:44:19 | 0:44:23 | |
a contemporary of Tsiolkovsky who said there was a third dimension of the cosmos, | 0:44:23 | 0:44:28 | |
beyond things and living creatures, | 0:44:28 | 0:44:30 | |
which he called a noosphere or sphere of the mind. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:34 | |
And that, say this branch of the cosmists, | 0:44:36 | 0:44:39 | |
is where to find immortality. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
The man I needed to see was Alexander's partner, | 0:44:42 | 0:44:47 | |
Vlail Kaznacheev, the current guru of cosmism. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:52 | |
He's now in his 80s and too frail to come to the laboratory. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:58 | |
But he welcomed us into his house, | 0:44:58 | 0:45:01 | |
and began to explain how cosmism had evolved. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:05 | |
Let's make a disc for concentration on two colours. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:57 | |
'I thought I'd better give it a try myself. | 0:45:57 | 0:46:00 | |
'They tested my reactions. They measured my cosmic aura.' | 0:46:00 | 0:46:04 | |
All of your parameters are normal. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
-Green shows normal. -'And then I went into the mirrors.' | 0:46:07 | 0:46:12 | |
Make a pause, make a stop, | 0:46:14 | 0:46:19 | |
and just put yourself | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
to relax, relaxation. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:25 | |
Say hello to this information system | 0:46:27 | 0:46:30 | |
and find inside yourself | 0:46:30 | 0:46:32 | |
what are you looking for. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:35 | |
And find the answers inside. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:38 | |
Just sit here and make some questions | 0:46:38 | 0:46:41 | |
that you can ask this system, | 0:46:41 | 0:46:44 | |
with help of mind of the universe. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
-Make this conversation with universal mind. -OK. -OK. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:53 | |
-See you later. -See you later. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:55 | |
Let's finish this contact. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
-Well, it was peaceful. -Yeah. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
I knew it. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
Taisiya, with years of practice and faith, | 0:47:44 | 0:47:48 | |
had much better results. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:50 | |
She showed me the record she kept | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
of the images that had flooded into her head inside the mirror. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:56 | |
I'm beginning to get the idea. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:22 | |
We're talking close encounters here. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:24 | |
And that is cosmism today. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
Man inextricably bound up in the universe | 0:48:46 | 0:48:50 | |
whether he travels through it, or stays on Earth. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:54 | |
Whatever you think of the dreamers, | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
you can't fault the scientific credentials of Alexander Urnov and the Lebedev Institute. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:48 | |
Portraits of Nobel prizes... | 0:49:48 | 0:49:51 | |
Look at that wall lined with Nobel prizewinners, | 0:49:51 | 0:49:55 | |
who've earned their spurs here. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:57 | |
Alexander is a solar physicist working at the cutting edge. | 0:49:57 | 0:50:01 | |
And there on the surface of the sun these cosmic questions | 0:50:01 | 0:50:05 | |
are not thought crazy. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
-What are we looking at here? -We see how alive the solar corona is. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:11 | |
-Yeah. -I can show you another example. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:15 | |
An international satellite started to explore the sun | 0:50:17 | 0:50:22 | |
and they saw the structure of solar corona. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:26 | |
They start to speak, people start to speak, the solar corona is alive. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:31 | |
What do you mean when you say alive? | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
Well, not alive. This is I think one of the questions in modern science | 0:50:34 | 0:50:38 | |
which is in the frontier. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:42 | |
His words felt like a blessing on my whole journey. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:45 | |
But he hadn't finished. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:48 | |
Fedorov, formulated, so great, | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
so fantastic, and a huge idea, | 0:50:51 | 0:50:55 | |
which I cannot compare with anything else. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:58 | |
What is the name, or if somebody thinks different, | 0:50:58 | 0:51:04 | |
he have to correct me? | 0:51:04 | 0:51:07 | |
What is anything else most important for human being as an answer, | 0:51:07 | 0:51:12 | |
on the question - "what is the sense of your life?" | 0:51:12 | 0:51:16 | |
And his idea helps to answer this question. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:19 | |
The development of knowledge which science gives you | 0:51:19 | 0:51:23 | |
helps to make you immortal. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:27 | |
That is, I think, absolutely beautiful. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:31 | |
I don't know anything more beautiful, speaking about ideas. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:35 | |
It was time for my pilgrimage to the hometown | 0:51:47 | 0:51:51 | |
of a carpenter's son who unwittingly fulfilled Fedorov's prediction. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:56 | |
In the town's stadium, they were starting the Annual Gagarin Games. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:15 | |
Apparently this was the sort of fun that young Yuri had | 0:52:15 | 0:52:17 | |
before Playstations, | 0:52:17 | 0:52:19 | |
television, mobile phones. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:24 | |
I bet. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:26 | |
That woman, someone told me, | 0:52:31 | 0:52:33 | |
was Yuri Gagarin's favourite niece, Tamara. | 0:52:33 | 0:52:36 | |
I made a date to meet her at the family house. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:41 | |
Young Yuri went off to technical college, | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
got married and seemed to be doing well as some sort of test pilot. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:29 | |
Back here, they had no idea what he was really up to. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:34 | |
They celebrate it still, that moment | 0:54:53 | 0:54:55 | |
when the Soviet Union excelled America. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:59 | |
But it didn't last long. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:08 | |
Within a decade, America was overhauling them in space, | 0:55:08 | 0:55:12 | |
and Gagarin was dead, | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
killed in a senseless air crash | 0:55:14 | 0:55:16 | |
that left the nation distraught. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
50 years on, Gagarin has found a sort of immortality, | 0:55:50 | 0:55:55 | |
forever young, forever smiling. | 0:55:55 | 0:55:59 | |
All over Russia, churches have been handed back to Orthodox priests. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:04 | |
But here, they worship different gods. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:08 | |
This is the village where Yuri Gagarin was actually born. | 0:56:57 | 0:57:01 | |
When he was seven, Nazi armies overran the place. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:05 | |
I was told there was someone in the graveyard who'd been his pal when they were boys. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:11 | |
And thus at the end, | 0:57:11 | 0:57:13 | |
I learned of the real miracle, that Yuri Gagarin | 0:57:13 | 0:57:17 | |
had grown old enough to fly into space at all. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:21 | |
The hammer, he said, | 0:57:37 | 0:57:39 | |
was for smashing the casings off the explosive heads. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:42 | |
# There's a starman waiting in the sky | 0:58:09 | 0:58:14 | |
# He'd like to come and meet us | 0:58:14 | 0:58:16 | |
# But he thinks he'd blow our minds | 0:58:16 | 0:58:19 | |
# There's a starman waiting in the sky | 0:58:19 | 0:58:23 | |
# He's told us not to blow it | 0:58:23 | 0:58:26 | |
# Cos he knows it's all worthwhile | 0:58:26 | 0:58:28 | |
# He told me | 0:58:28 | 0:58:30 | |
# Let the children lose it | 0:58:30 | 0:58:33 | |
# Let the children use it | 0:58:33 | 0:58:34 | |
# Let all the children boogie. # | 0:58:34 | 0:58:38 | |
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