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This programme contains some strong language.

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'My name is Cinque and to my comrades I am known as Cin.'

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'I am a black man and a representative of black people.

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'I hold the rank of General Field Marshall

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'in the United Federated Forces of the Symbionese Liberation Army...'

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'My name is Fahizah and I am a freedom fighter

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'in an information/intelligence unit of the United Federated Forces of the Symbionese Liberation Army.'

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'Greetings to the people. This is Teko speaking.'

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'This is Yolanda speaking. Greetings of profound love to all comrades

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in the concentration camps of Fascist America, and to all the children.'

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'This is information/intelligence unit four.'

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'My name is Gelina and I am a General in the Symbionese Liberation Army.'

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'We have declared revolutionary war upon you, the enemy of the people.'

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'Death to the Fascist insect that preys upon the life of the people.'

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Mom, Dad,

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I'm with a...

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combat unit that's armed with automatic weapons.

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I grew up in Pensacola, Florida,

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up on the Gulf of Mexico. It was a typical kids' life at that time.

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I was born in 1949 so I was growing up in the '50's.

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I grew up watching Zorro and the Swamp Fox, you know,

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which was about the American Revolution.

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Robin Hood, I mean all these tales of swashbucklers and people

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who were fighting against the government.

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I really thought that I would end up being an astronaut.

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I went to the University of Florida for engineering. I thought that would be my way to be an astronaut.

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When I got to college I ran into a whole new world.

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The thing that you remembered growing up

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was we saved the world from Hitler.

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And then you turn around and we're being Hitler.

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You know, you see this every night and it's like, "Oh, my God!" It's like, "What's going on here?"

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There has been and continues to be opposition to the war in Vietnam on the campuses and also in the nation.

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As far as this kind of activity is concerned, we expect it.

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However, under no circumstances will I be affected whatever by it.

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I was pretty militant.

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I help shut down the college because I was a student then at UC Berkeley.

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It was almost like a kid that decided that their parents were just disgusting people.

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That's...I know that's a weird way to sum it up, but we just felt like there was no future.

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It was way too extreme...

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The difference between what was really going on

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and what was bandied about in school.

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I mean, we were just running rampant throughout the world, and just lying like hell about it.

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And then Kent State happened

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and I was shocked just like everybody else,

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especially everyone on all the campuses.

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Why don't you fire on us, you fucking pigs? Open fire like you did in Kent!

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Then I felt like in no uncertain terms, that people like me

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were being declared the enemy by the government of the United States.

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I don't think that most of the young people involved who considered themselves

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part of the counter-culture

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saw themselves so much as revolutionaries or renegades

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as people think they did, or as the establishment accused them of being.

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They actually saw themselves, if they did not admit as such, as patriots.

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Most everybody that I ever knew that was a radical were go-getters in high school -

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I was a national science finalist,

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I had a gigantic IQ and all this.

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Most everybody did, you know, it was all these high achievers. We were just shocked.

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It just got to the point where I felt like this thing is just totally out of control,

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the country is out of control. It's being run by criminals.

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It's being run by just total right-wingers who have

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no respect for the constitution or anything else.

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That's the way I felt when I left and went to California.

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# Hari Krishna Hari Krishna, Krishna Krishna

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# Hari Hari. Hari Rama... #

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I didn't necessarily think that I would ever live to see a revolution.

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It seemed like it was more revolutionary,

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you know, in the late '60s than it was by the time I got to Berkeley.

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# I'm so glad Jesus set me free... #

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We were pulling out of Vietnam.

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A lot of people were going, you know, "Everything's over now, we'll go back to college",

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and it wasn't over at all.

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The same stuff was still going on.

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The same criminals were still...murderers and stuff...were still running the Government.

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THEY CHANT

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'Preserve, protect and defend the constitution of the United States.'

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Preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

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-So help me God.

-So help me God.

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I couldn't believe it.

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That Nixon got re-elected in '72.

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I couldn't believe that this guy got re-elected.

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I just felt like we gotta keep something going.

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One of the things I did that other people got involved in was show

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these films, political films about what was going on in the world.

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The events in this film actually took place in a South American country.

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One of the groups that I really liked, and I guess it's back to the old Robin Hood and Zorro thing,

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was the Tupamaros down in Uruguay.

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State of Siege - I did see that.

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If you consider yourself a revolutionary, if you want

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to change things, then I thought these guys got it figured out.

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And Che of course, I thought he was great. He was from Bolivia, he was down in Cuba helping the Cubans.

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Che! Che! Superhero to some, villain to others!

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His battle cry is heard around the world - Che Lives!

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Only Sharif with his dramatic force and his amazing physical likeness

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to Che could play the part.

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It's funny how all these things happened but that's where Willie

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and I met Bill and Emily and Joe,

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is at one of these films.

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Willie was kind of like the catalyst.

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Willie was the one that all these different people met.

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Willie was like the common denominator.

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Willie studied anthropology at Berkeley and it was actually through

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Berkeley that he got in to going to prisons, from some class,

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some anthropology class.

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I think that my, and people around me that I knew,

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had such total distrust of this country at that point that San Quentin, Vietnam,

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it was the same thing.

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I was interested in the prisons, actually,

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and when I found out Willie and them were going, then I went.

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So Willie came - I think Willie's the one who started it,

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there were discussions about, "Well, we know there are people in prison we don't think should be there.

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"What are we willing to do about that?

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"Yeah, we can visit them, we can try to get people

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"to donate money, we can try to find lawyers to help them and stuff.

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"But what else are we willing to do?"

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And there was talk about, what if somebody escaped?

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What if we could help somebody escape?

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So we started talking along those lines.

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By then, every black prisoner in California prisons was regarded in one way or another

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as a political prisoner, which had a bit of truth connected to it but a whole lot or romantic bullshit too.

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The idea that made black prisoners so-called political prisoners was that they had been denied sufficient

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opportunity in society and had reached out to take their share.

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DeFreeze wasn't just some criminal.

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I mean, he wasn't some guy who was some pimp or some dope dealer

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from day one. DeFreeze had been married, he had kids, he'd worked full time.

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It's just, I think he couldn't live the American Dream,

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the thing you're seeing on TV, he couldn't do it just by working.

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So he also became a thief.

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You know, I liked the guy.

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I liked him.

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Willie took DeFreeze over to Mizmoon's house to hide him out.

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He got transferred over to Nancy Perry's.

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So DeFreeze and Nancy and Mizmoon, they were living out in Concord.

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You got you're very own escaped convict?

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I mean, come on, if there was status in knowing black political prisoners

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there was one hell of a lot within the so-called "revolutionaries"

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of actually being able to hide out an escapee,

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who would then prove to be something more than just an escapee.

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I think that was the beginning of it.

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Probably him and Mizmoon were the two first members, I would think.

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Then Russ Little, you know, knew him.

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I know people want to make DeFreeze the leader

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or some kind of Manson figure,

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but that's just not my experience.

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It became obvious to us that what we were really doing is that we were

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forming our own little group, to be able to respond to things

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and do things that were illegal.

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This forest is wide. It can shelter and clothe and feed a band of good, determined men.

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Good swordsmen, good archers, good fighters.

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Are you with me? THEY CHEER

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We familiarized ourselves with weapons.

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We bought weapons.

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They weren't militant in any way.

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In fact, most of them had decent personalities, and nice people.

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We didn't have some great plan.

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We weren't like, "Now we'll take the South in '75 and then we'll move

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"into the Midwest in '76."

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We didn't think we were Mao out there with the Red Army.

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We practised, sure.

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We practiced at the gun ranges just like everybody else practised.

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Officers arrived immediately and both Mr Blackburn and Dr Foster

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were transferred to Highland Hospital in Oakland

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where Dr Foster was pronounced deceased.

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The murder of Marcus Foster, who was the School Superintendent in Oakland,

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was one of these appalling acts that made no sense whatsoever.

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Here was the first black school superintendent in the history

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of Oakland, a good man, suddenly gunned down.

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Who actually pulled the trigger that killed Foster was Mizmoon.

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GUNSHOT

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Nancy was supposed to shoot Blackburn.

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GUNSHOT

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She kind of botched that and DeFreeze ended up shooting him with a shotgun.

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If I recall correctly I was just about to leave the office one day when I stopped to check my mailbox.

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And here was this communique sent from "The Symbionese Liberation Army",

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saying that they had assassinated Foster.

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I remember being struck by the fact they said they used cyanide-tipped bullets.

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The whole thing sounded ridiculous, Symbionese Liberation Army, killing the black school superintendent.

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Who were these people?

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We thought for sure it was some lunatic right-wing fringe, and we just figured

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Symbionese was like, you know, white farmers in Rhodesia or something.

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'My name is Fahizah and I am a freedom fighter

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'in an information/intelligence unit of the United Federated Forces of the Symbionese Liberation Army.

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'I try to use my mind and my imagination to uncover

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'facts so that when the SLA attacks, it will be in the right place.'

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I remember saying to DeFreeze, "Why?

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"Why would you kill a black guy?"

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Jesus Christ. man, there's black people being killed all over the place, man.

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You know if you're going to kill somebody, why in the world would it be him?

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And as far as DeFreeze was concerned, Foster was the front man

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for some horrendous police apparatus that was set up.

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The issue was ID for high-school students.

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And the funny thing is everyone today that's even mildly been associated with the SLA,

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just about everyone has kids and

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all of us want those IDs, that's the funny thing.

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Stay away from the defendant.

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Stay away from the deputies.

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Thank you.

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'Remiro and Russell Little were taken into custody two nights ago

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'when they exchanged shots with a Concord policeman.

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'Before the day was over Joseph Remiro had been accused of the murder of Oakland schools chief

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'Dr Marcus Foster.'

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They found us in the van. Joe was in a shootout with the cop and everything.

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As far as they're concerned, man, we're armed and dangerous revolutionaries.

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Within less than 48 hours, we were in San Quentin Prison.

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I mean, I'd never even been arrested before.

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Remiro, at the time we were investigating it, we regarded

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him as their armourer, that is someone who took care of the weapons.

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And Little was more of a logistical support person.

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He was close to DeFreeze and would have been,

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I think, aware of whatever decision was made to kill Foster.

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We found Mr Little's identification at the Southerland address in Concord that we were working on.

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We've identified him by witnesses at that location.

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We also found a map of the scene of the murder at the Oakland Public Schools

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showing the location where Dr Foster had been killed, and the map was identified by the word "ambush"

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-across the top.

-Has your investigation uncovered evidence as to the size of this liberation army?

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No. The only thing I can say is that it has grown day by day.

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Everybody saw us together all the time.

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After we got arrested, they were totally tied to us.

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You know...

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At that point you only have two choices.

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You could just drop out of everything and disappear

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or go into hiding and try to figure out what to do next.

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And that's what they did.

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They had massive files on all the heads of all

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the big international corporations who involved in overthrowing Chile

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and everything else that was going on. They were gathering information on all of that.

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They just had some massive investigative research thing going on.

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The SLA in its formative time at that point was looking for targets.

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Emily Harris worked in the registrars office at UC Berkeley, so they had a pretty fair

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knowledge of who was at Berkeley.

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And they were looking for the right one.

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There's been a big kidnapping on the west coast.

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The victim is Patricia Hearst, the daughter of newspaper executive Randolph Hearst

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and a grand-daughter of the legendary William Randolph Hearst.

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'Miss Hearst, newspaper heiress and daughter of Randolph Hearst,

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managing editor of the San Francisco Examiner, is a University of California sophomore.

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She screamed when the men burst in and started beating her fiance, 26-year-old Steven Weed.

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The young heiress was forced into the trunk of a white car.

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Her abductors, armed with pistols and a rifle,

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fired a hail of bullets as they sped away followed by a second vehicle.

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Police say the whole thing was carried out with commando-like precision.

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They said absolutely nothing. They were very militaristic.

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They had it so well planned that they needed to say nothing to each other.

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The national media immediately focused on it as a kidnapping case and understood

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the revolutionary aspects of it.

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But in effect what they did was park outside Randolph Hearst's mansion.

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It was the only place to go and so they made a story of it to a degree.

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'A live report from the Hearst home in Hillsborough. John?'

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So I'd get calls in the morning saying, "Who's there?"

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"Well, 2's here and so is 4 and so is 5, I'm 7."

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"Well, you'd better hang around."

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And so no-one left, because the other was there.

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We had the same questions that everybody else had.

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Where is this thing gonna go? Who are these people? What do they want?

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The United Federated Forces of the Symbionese Liberation Army,

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armed with cyanide-loaded weapons served an arrest warrant

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upon Patricia Campbell Hearst.

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All communications from this court must be published in full in all newspapers

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and all other forms of the media.

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Failure to do so will endanger the safety of the prisoner.

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Should any attempt be made by authorities to rescue the prisoner or arrest or harm SLA elements,

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the prisoner is to be executed.

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And in capital letters under that is, "Death to the fascist insect that preys upon the life of the people."

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We heard this stuff, we were locked down in the Adjustment Centre in San Quentin,

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and all this stuff hit the media and we just couldn't believe it.

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The heat on us was bad enough.

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After that happened, man, it was just really a nightmare.

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We are now the SLA personified,

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the premier anti-government terrorists.

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At that point they stuck us up on Death Row in the strip cells up there

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and did all kinds of shit, you know.

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Put us in the gas chamber... Did everything they could think of.

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But we weren't going to start changing our tune.

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We figured we were dead anyway, why should we snivel our way out of it?

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Do you have any feelings about your son being moved to Death Row

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-at San Quentin?

-Well, I think it was very silly.

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I mean under the Constitution, you're innocent until found guilty.

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He hasn't even been brought to trial. So what would you say? Wouldn't you say it was a very silly thing to do?

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We had read about this, watched movies about it, now we got to be in Attica,

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as revolutionaries no less.

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Now you talk about State Of Siege, the movie.

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That's how the SLA kind of envisioned it. The kidnap was meant as a prisoner swap.

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They meant, frankly, to grab Patricia Hearst and trade her for Russ Little and Joe Remiro.

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What we received in the mail today

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appears to me to be a seven-page statement from the SLA plus a tape recording, which purports to be

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somebody from the SLA and also the voice of Patricia Hearst.

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And according to the demands, which we'll outline here,

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it says that all of these things must be publicised in full which is what we're doing right now.

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We knew they weren't about to release us

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because they had Patty Hearst.

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They realised they're not gonna get a prisoner exchange.

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The next best thing they can do is create some kind of enormous act.

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So that's the food giveaway.

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We have heard it said that Mr Hearst wants to save his daughter.

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We want to save all the children and people.

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Each Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday for four successive weeks

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each person with one of the listed cards can go to publicized stores and pick up their food.

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The meat, vegetables and dairy products must be of top quality

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and in ample supply during all store hours...

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It's as outrageous as they can think of it.

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I mean, they want the supermarkets emptied and food thrown into the streets.

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I mean, that's really what it amounted to.

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General Field Marshall C-I-N, SLA.

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And what we're going to play next as per instructions from the SLA,

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is a tape recording from the SLA

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which purports to contain the voice of the kidnap victim Patricia Hearst.

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'Mom, Dad.

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'I'm OK.

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'I'm with a combat unit that's armed with automatic weapons.

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'And these people aren't just a bunch of nuts.

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'They've been really honest with me but

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'they're perfectly willing to die for what they're doing.

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'And I want to get out of here but the only way I'm going to is if we do it their way.

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'And I just hope you'll do what they say, Dad, and just do it quickly.

0:26:420:26:48

'And I mean I hope that this puts you a little bit at ease

0:26:480:26:51

'and that you know that I really, that I really am all right.

0:26:510:26:57

'I just hope I can get back to everybody really soon.'

0:27:010:27:05

'Wednesday the 13th day of February, and of course, it's the morning after the Hearst family received

0:27:080:27:13

'that letter from the Symbionese Liberation Army which was full of very bizarre demands.

0:27:130:27:18

'This morning an FBI man said that the demand for 300 million worth of free food for people

0:27:180:27:23

'on welfare was, in his words, in the realm of unreasonableness.'

0:27:230:27:29

You sounded a little tired, or like you were sedated, but you sounded all right and I'm sure

0:27:290:27:35

that the people that have you are telling the truth

0:27:370:27:40

when they say that they're treating you under the Geneva Convention.

0:27:400:27:43

I just want you to know that I'm going to do everything I can to get you out of there.

0:27:460:27:50

It's a little frightening because the original demand is what I was afraid of from the beginning...

0:27:520:27:58

One that's impossible to meet.

0:27:580:28:00

However, in the next 24 to 48 hours I'll be trying my best to come back

0:28:040:28:10

with some kind of a counter offer

0:28:100:28:13

that's acceptable.

0:28:130:28:16

It's very difficult because I have no-one to negotiate with

0:28:190:28:26

except through a letter that generally comes two or three days later than we expect it.

0:28:260:28:33

Anyway, you can rest assured that

0:28:350:28:40

your mother and I and all the family will do everything

0:28:400:28:43

we can to get you out.

0:28:430:28:45

Tell them not to worry. Nobody's going to bust in on them or start a shoot-up.

0:28:450:28:50

And you take care of yourself.

0:28:520:28:55

They waited to see what Hearst would do and did very little work

0:28:550:29:00

to find out what the SLA might do, or who the SLA might be.

0:29:000:29:04

That ominous quiet continues at the Hearst home.

0:29:040:29:08

And that tense, frustrating wait goes on.

0:29:080:29:11

We never discussed it, as to - should we be doing this?

0:29:110:29:15

We're, you know, being a mouthpiece for the family, we're recording what they have to say.

0:29:150:29:22

We're recording what the bad guys are saying, their tapes,

0:29:220:29:26

we're just sort of being messengers back and forth. Are we really doing our jobs?

0:29:260:29:31

'Greetings to the people and fellow comrade brothers and sisters.

0:29:310:29:36

'My name is Cinque

0:29:360:29:38

'and to my comrades I am known as Cin.

0:29:380:29:42

'I hold the rank of General Field Marshall

0:29:420:29:45

'in the United Federated Forces of the Symbionese Liberation Army.

0:29:450:29:50

'The SLA has arrested the subject for the crimes that her mother and father

0:29:500:29:55

'have by their actions committed against we, the American people and the oppressed people of the world.

0:29:550:30:03

'Randolph A Hearst is the corporate chairman

0:30:030:30:07

'of the fascist media empire of the ultra-right Hearst corporation,

0:30:070:30:12

'which is one of the largest propaganda institutions of this present military dictatorship

0:30:120:30:18

'of the militarily armed corporate state that we now live under in this nation.

0:30:180:30:25

'The primary goal of this empire is to serve and form the necessary

0:30:250:30:31

'propaganda and smoke-screen to shield the American people from seeing the realities

0:30:310:30:38

'of the corporate dictatorship which Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford represent.

0:30:380:30:43

'In closing,

0:30:430:30:46

'I wish to say to Mr Hearst and Mrs Hearst, I am quite willing

0:30:460:30:51

'to carry out the execution of your daughter

0:30:510:30:54

'to save the life of starving men, women and children of every race.

0:30:540:30:59

'And if as you and others so naively believe

0:30:590:31:04

'that we will lose, let it be known that even in death we will win,

0:31:040:31:09

'for the very ashes of this fascist nation will mark our very graves.'

0:31:090:31:15

There was no doubt they were in control of the situation, no doubt.

0:31:170:31:21

And no doubt that they were in control, again, because they had the girl.

0:31:210:31:27

They had a Hearst. This is like uncrowned royalty.

0:31:270:31:33

They kicked off something, they had no idea of what the ramifications would be when they kidnapped her.

0:31:350:31:41

They did exactly what I for one didn't want to do.

0:31:410:31:46

And we were parked in front.

0:31:480:31:51

And we started out with cars. Then we got to Winnebagos.

0:31:510:31:54

-Then we got to where some people stayed overnight.

-..anxious about his daughter's plight.

0:31:540:32:00

This is the first time something like this has ever happened.

0:32:000:32:03

So there are no ground rules.

0:32:030:32:06

We got barbeque sets, wine, liquor.

0:32:060:32:10

Where's your microphone? I'm sorry, we're busy now.

0:32:100:32:15

This is one of the all-time great Nazi spies.

0:32:150:32:18

Al Bullock. Would you like to say a few words into the camera?

0:32:180:32:21

Not to this fascist pig press.

0:32:210:32:25

If the FBI did know where Patty Hearst was, what exactly would you do?

0:32:280:32:35

This would depend on the facts. We don't know where Patty Hearst is.

0:32:350:32:39

We're making no direct attempt

0:32:390:32:43

to find out, because we don't want to get Patty hurt.

0:32:430:32:47

At the time when Charlie was special agent in charge in San Francisco, the FBI really didn't know what to do.

0:32:470:32:54

They didn't have a clue about who these people were.

0:32:540:32:58

This was brand new and came out of nowhere, and in a lot of ways they looked in the wrong places.

0:32:580:33:05

These were people who were dangerous, obviously,

0:33:050:33:08

because they had already murdered one person

0:33:080:33:12

and they had set fire to a house.

0:33:120:33:14

How big they were? Underground support groups?

0:33:140:33:17

No idea whatsoever.

0:33:170:33:20

I mean, that's one of the reasons that the Bureau sent so many people in, was to try and approach this

0:33:200:33:27

as a terrorist investigation as well as a kidnap case.

0:33:270:33:32

The U-2 was flying sorties up over the High Sierra

0:33:340:33:38

looking at campsites and things like this during the initial search days.

0:33:380:33:42

The tapes were sent to CIA headquarters

0:33:490:33:54

to be listened to by blind people whose hearing is extremely acute.

0:33:540:33:59

And they heard things in the background that the ordinary ear would never pick up.

0:33:590:34:04

'Greetings to the people and comrades, sisters and brothers.

0:34:040:34:08

'My name is Gelina and I am a general in the Symbionese Liberation Army.

0:34:080:34:12

'The Symbionese War Council has determined that communication between POW Patricia Hearst and her family

0:34:120:34:18

'will come only after the immediate creation of the necessary mechanisms whereby Russell Little

0:34:180:34:24

'and Joseph Remiro can communicate via live national TV

0:34:240:34:29

'with the People and the SLA, concerning the full scope

0:34:290:34:32

'of their physical health and all the conditions of their confinement.'

0:34:320:34:37

Oh, man, the FBI came in and said, "Oh, hell no,

0:34:370:34:40

"we ain't about to let these guys go live on national TV, forget that."

0:34:400:34:44

I'd do everything I could to get them on the air and will.

0:34:440:34:50

They're the ones, as far as I'm concerned, whether Remiro and Little go on the air,

0:34:500:34:55

if the SLA wants them to go on the air, I'd be delighted to have them go on the air.

0:34:550:35:00

They may tell me something that I don't know. It may gradually become

0:35:000:35:04

a conduit in which we can talk to the SLA.

0:35:040:35:08

I told him, "You know, what you're doing is giving them a satisfaction.

0:35:080:35:13

"You're putting them on a pedestal they don't belong."

0:35:130:35:16

I am being held as a Prisoner of War

0:35:190:35:25

and not as anything else. I mean, I am being treated in accordance with international codes of war.

0:35:250:35:30

And so, I mean, Dad, you shouldn't listen

0:35:300:35:34

or believe what anybody else says about the way I'm being treated, this is the way I'm being treated.

0:35:340:35:39

And I'm not left alone, and I'm not just shoved off somewhere.

0:35:390:35:42

I mean, I am fine.

0:35:420:35:44

Also, since I am an example, and it's really important that everybody

0:35:440:35:47

understand that, you know, I am an example and a warning.

0:35:470:35:52

And because of this it's very important to the SLA that I return safely.

0:35:520:35:56

And so people should stop acting like I'm dead.

0:35:580:36:03

Mom should get out of her black dress, that doesn't help at all.

0:36:030:36:08

And, er...

0:36:080:36:11

just take care of Steve,

0:36:110:36:14

and, well, just hurry. Bye.

0:36:140:36:17

You can argue that we shouldn't have dealt with the SLA.

0:36:200:36:23

You can argue that you shouldn't deal with radical groups.

0:36:230:36:26

You do all those kinds of things intellectually, until it becomes your daughter.

0:36:260:36:30

And after a short period of time Hearst said, "Hey, it's my daughter, we'll do whatever they want."

0:36:300:36:37

Arrangements have been made for 2 million

0:36:390:36:43

to be delivered to a tax-exempt charitable organisation

0:36:430:36:46

capable of making a distribution for the benefit of the poor and needy.

0:36:460:36:50

He walked out the front door and said, "Lud Kramer will handle the food distribution." And that was it.

0:36:500:36:55

Gentlemen, this is Mr Ludlow Kramer, the Secretary of State of the State of Washington. This afternoon we met

0:36:550:37:02

with the coalition. Now we discussed the programme,

0:37:020:37:07

the model of it has been done in the State of Washington.

0:37:070:37:11

And one of the sad parts was the number of people that they grabbed

0:37:110:37:15

to help them that could do nothing.

0:37:150:37:18

It is very apparent that SLA has now seen

0:37:180:37:24

fit to use us as a liaison.

0:37:240:37:27

We made a plea for that to happen and now we are the liaison between the Hearst family and SLA.

0:37:270:37:34

They hired a couple of people to analyze every word she said and what it really meant, not what she said.

0:37:340:37:40

And paid them a lot of money.

0:37:400:37:43

-PATRICIA:

-I'm not being starved or beaten,

0:37:430:37:48

or unnecessarily frightened.

0:37:480:37:51

Psychics were in the house all the time. They were doing things and getting paid to do it.

0:37:510:37:56

But again, it was grabbing. It was a family... No matter how powerful

0:37:560:38:01

or great or good they may be who knew nothing about what was happening.

0:38:010:38:05

They had no comprehension of who they were dealing with

0:38:050:38:08

or how they were dealing with it, and at the start we didn't know who we were dealing with either.

0:38:080:38:12

Four days ago we had nothing, and in four days we've created the largest private volunteer organisation

0:38:220:38:27

in the history of this country.

0:38:270:38:28

The SLA is correct in the sense that people need funds, that people need the additional money.

0:38:280:38:33

We are not questioning that at all, and the 4,000 volunteers

0:38:330:38:37

that are working on this programme believe the same thing.

0:38:370:38:40

But we believe that it must be and can be an ongoing programme.

0:38:400:38:44

I went down there with Randy

0:38:440:38:47

and that was amazing.

0:38:470:38:49

So you had meat here, you had produce here, you had eggs here, you had bananas, whatever, whatever.

0:38:490:38:54

And there were just assembly lines and at the end came out the box, as if the SLA was giving the gift,

0:38:540:39:00

right, with their insignia, that seven-headed snake nonsense, on either side.

0:39:000:39:06

I am convinced that Patricia Hearst is going to be released.

0:39:060:39:11

I believe that.

0:39:130:39:15

I'm also convinced

0:39:150:39:18

that the peoples of this land who have gone hungry are going to be fed.

0:39:180:39:25

APPLAUSE

0:39:280:39:31

I also believe that the corporate structures,

0:39:310:39:36

those who head the corporations of our land,

0:39:360:39:39

can now see

0:39:390:39:43

that sometimes it takes the most extreme situation to be heard.

0:39:430:39:51

Even though I disagree with the tactic of kidnapping and terrorism,

0:39:510:39:57

people are looking like they've never looked before in America.

0:39:570:40:01

APPLAUSE

0:40:010:40:04

It was what we always wanted, in a way. It was like a dream that you didn't want to wake up from.

0:40:080:40:14

Because, first of all, it was instant gratification.

0:40:140:40:18

They say "food programme", there was a food program just like that.

0:40:180:40:21

There was thousands of poor black people and poor Hispanics

0:40:210:40:26

in line showing poverty in America,

0:40:260:40:28

which is what we wanted to show for years and no-one would listen.

0:40:280:40:33

I hate to take advantage of what could happen to the young lady.

0:40:370:40:41

-But my children need food just like anybody else's kids.

-Right on!

0:40:420:40:46

We were like Robin Hood, we're coming in and we're going to feed people.

0:40:460:40:49

And maybe this can be an ongoing program for 20 years and we can do good things, and all that stuff.

0:40:490:40:54

So sure, we didn't agree with the SLA, but we knew people were hungry.

0:40:540:41:00

HORN BEEPS

0:41:000:41:03

What literally happens, of course, is because of the lack of coordination, because

0:41:130:41:18

the chaos that surrounded it all,

0:41:180:41:21

it almost comes off as a racist episode

0:41:210:41:25

in which people look like damned fools fighting over a turkey.

0:41:250:41:30

Three of them were going smoothly - one, all hell broke loose.

0:41:410:41:45

All of a sudden people started coming in and saying,

0:41:580:42:00

"Do you know two people have been killed and murdered because you handled this so badly?"

0:42:000:42:05

People have been hurt, Mr Kramer.

0:42:050:42:06

One reporter and he's not badly hurt.

0:42:060:42:09

'It happened -

0:42:090:42:10

'so what are you going to do?'

0:42:100:42:12

I'm carrying out the wishes of the family.

0:42:120:42:15

In the future,

0:42:210:42:23

every crime committed in connection with a kidnapping

0:42:230:42:27

will be prosecuted.

0:42:270:42:29

And I'm including

0:42:290:42:32

any persons who participate in any sort of a food distribution plan or a television set

0:42:320:42:38

distribution plan or any other kind of a distribution plan.

0:42:380:42:41

If it's done in response to extortion or kidnapping,

0:42:410:42:44

we'll encourage the local district attorneys to prosecute

0:42:440:42:47

under existing law and if they don't, we'll do it.

0:42:470:42:50

The size of the latest demand of the SLA is far beyond my financial capability.

0:42:590:43:05

Therefore, the matter is now out of my hands.

0:43:050:43:08

You know something Robin, I was just wondering. Are we good guys or bad guys?

0:43:130:43:18

You know, our robbing the rich to feed the poor.

0:43:180:43:21

That's a naughty word, we never rob.

0:43:210:43:24

-I've been robbed.

-Of course you've been robbed!

0:43:240:43:26

-PATRICIA:

-Mom, Dad.

0:43:290:43:31

I've been hearing reports about the food programme.

0:43:310:43:35

So far it sounds like you and your advisors have managed to turn it into a real disaster.

0:43:350:43:41

You said that it was out of your hands - what you should have said was that you wash your hands of it.

0:43:410:43:46

It sounds like most of the food is low quality.

0:43:460:43:49

No-one received any beef or lamb.

0:43:490:43:52

Anyway, it certainly didn't sound like the kind of food our family is used to eating.

0:43:520:43:57

Oh, my God, what's this? The child is talking down to her rich dad.

0:43:570:44:03

I mean, this is what we all were doing for the last ten years.

0:44:030:44:06

Like I say, distilled in a moment.

0:44:060:44:09

It was like compressing matter, you know until it's just so...y'know.

0:44:090:44:15

Like I said earlier, I concede

0:44:150:44:17

that she may be actually having her doubts as to, you know,

0:44:170:44:21

from her point of view, it may look like we've made a mess of things.

0:44:210:44:25

-What is her political point of view?

-Previous to the last two months, I'd say she really didn't have one.

0:44:250:44:33

I think that by the time this is over

0:44:370:44:41

she's going to have some sort of a political view.

0:44:410:44:44

There's no way of getting around that.

0:44:440:44:46

-PATRICIA:

-Mom, Dad.

0:44:520:44:54

Tell the poor and oppressed people of this nation what the corporate state is about to do.

0:44:540:44:59

Warn black and poor people that they are about to be murdered down to the last man, woman and child.

0:44:590:45:05

Tell the people that the energy crisis is nothing more than

0:45:050:45:08

a means to get public approval for a massive program to build nuclear power plants all over the nation.

0:45:080:45:15

Tell the people the entire corporate state is, with the aid

0:45:150:45:19

of this massive power supply, about to totally automate the entire industrial state

0:45:190:45:25

to the point that in the next five years, all that will be needed is a small class of button pushers.

0:45:250:45:31

Tell the people, Dad, that the removal

0:45:310:45:34

of expendable excess, the removal of unneeded people has already started.

0:45:340:45:40

I have been given the choice of one - being released in a safe area, or two - joining the forces

0:45:400:45:47

of the Symbionese Liberation Army

0:45:470:45:49

and fighting for my freedom and the freedom of all oppressed people.

0:45:490:45:53

I have chosen to stay and fight.

0:45:530:45:57

I have been given the name Tania

0:45:570:45:59

after a comrade who fought alongside Che in Bolivia.

0:45:590:46:03

It is in the spirit of Tania that I say, "patria o muerte, venceremos."

0:46:030:46:09

All of a sudden, within days,

0:46:170:46:19

"We Love You Tania" because that's the name she chose... It was like...

0:46:190:46:24

it was just so unreal. And that's all the media talked about.

0:46:240:46:30

I don't even know what to compare it with. It was like...

0:46:300:46:34

it was like...

0:46:340:46:36

it was like the '49ers in '81 being all of a sudden on their way to the Superbowl. It was magical.

0:46:360:46:43

It was just like the home team.

0:46:430:46:46

It was like the '69 New York Mets.

0:46:460:46:49

It was like... It was the ultimate David and Goliath.

0:46:490:46:52

And it was like they tell them, "We want food." They tell them, "We want better food."

0:46:520:46:57

This, that, and they just comply and they just folded.

0:46:570:47:01

And it's just a few people

0:47:010:47:04

and nothing ever like that had ever happened before.

0:47:040:47:07

Everything else was a failure.

0:47:070:47:09

Joe and I would read this stuff and just look at each other and like,

0:47:160:47:19

you know, "Is everybody stoned, what's going on over here?"

0:47:190:47:24

You don't think she's come round to thinking their way?

0:47:240:47:27

Oh, I know Patty too well to think that she's going to come

0:47:270:47:29

around like that, I really don't.

0:47:290:47:31

-But why do you think she would say those things?

-I guess she only hears one side of the story.

0:47:310:47:37

The whole time she's been there she's heard one side.

0:47:370:47:39

And maybe from where she is, she looks out and says, "What's going on?"

0:47:390:47:43

-She only hears one side, like I said, and she just doesn't know the whole thing.

-You don't believe it?

0:47:430:47:48

No, I don't believe it.

0:47:480:47:50

We're in more or less shock over this thing

0:47:500:47:55

and until we know more about it we haven't anything to say.

0:47:550:47:59

I think, and I don't remember all the details, but I think

0:47:590:48:04

that's the only time he cried.

0:48:040:48:06

That really broke his heart.

0:48:060:48:08

You had people who were telling him that she's been brainwashed.

0:48:150:48:21

So they had that...

0:48:230:48:26

rock to hold on to.

0:48:260:48:28

Until she walks in the door and tells them personally

0:48:320:48:37

that she's a member of the SLA,

0:48:370:48:40

common sense dictates that you have to accept that she is still

0:48:400:48:44

being held prisoner by the SLA.

0:48:440:48:48

If she is not, there's no reason in the world why she cannot come

0:48:480:48:52

and make this statement in person and walk back out the door, as her parents said she could.

0:48:520:48:57

We spoke to a lot of people who had become familiar with this phenomenon, the so-called "Stockholm Syndrome"

0:48:570:49:04

in which people get kidnapped and identify with their kidnappers.

0:49:040:49:08

The thesis of the Stockholm Syndrome is that every day your captor

0:49:080:49:13

lets you live, you more closely identify with that captor,

0:49:130:49:19

up until even sexual attraction. And to me she was a classic Stockholm Syndrome case.

0:49:190:49:26

If I would have been there, part of the kidnapping?

0:49:260:49:30

No, no, God, no. I can't imagine letting her stay.

0:49:300:49:35

I mean, I know her and Willie, you know, they were in love,

0:49:350:49:38

all this other stuff and she was pissed off at her parents...

0:49:380:49:42

-Will you come with me?

-To Sherwood?

0:49:420:49:44

I have nothing to offer you but a life of hardship and danger, but we'd be together.

0:49:440:49:49

Because I love you, Robin, I'd come. Even danger would mean nothing if you were with me.

0:49:490:49:54

As for my ex-fiance, the fact is,

0:49:540:49:57

I don't care if I never see him again.

0:49:570:50:01

During the last few months, Steven has shown himself to be a sexist, ageist pig.

0:50:010:50:07

All right, I'm not in any particular...

0:50:090:50:15

right frame of mind perhaps to be talking now. I finished listening to the tape a few minutes ago.

0:50:150:50:21

But it seemed important to me to say some things that I'm feeling right now

0:50:210:50:26

and not think about them too much and screw it up.

0:50:260:50:30

The SLA has said that they are the instrument of the people

0:50:320:50:38

and yet the will of the people has been, at least lately, that,

0:50:380:50:43

and the will of the two captured soldiers, has been

0:50:430:50:48

to give Patty her freedom.

0:50:480:50:50

I am reconciled

0:50:510:50:54

to the idea that Patty must have matured a great deal in the past two months.

0:50:550:51:01

I just want to tell Patty that I love her as much as ever

0:51:010:51:06

and I think she knows that I can accept whatever she has chosen.

0:51:060:51:10

Even though it may be hard for me, I can accept it.

0:51:100:51:13

It was just like total Hollywood. But I guess the whole thing

0:51:180:51:21

had turned into Hollywood so why shouldn't it be Hollywood for her? "Yeah, I'll go join Robin Hood."

0:51:210:51:28

'Combat operation, April 15th, 1974 - The Year of the Children.

0:51:360:51:42

'Action - appropriation.

0:51:420:51:45

'One 38 Smith & Wesson revolver. Condition - good.

0:51:470:51:50

'Five rounds of 158 grain 38 calibre ammo.

0:51:500:51:54

'Number of rounds fired by Combat Forces - 7 rounds.

0:51:540:51:59

'Number of rounds lost - 5.

0:51:590:52:02

'Casualties, Peoples Forces - none, Enemy Forces - none, Civilians - two.

0:52:020:52:08

'Reasons.

0:52:080:52:10

'Subject one - male.

0:52:100:52:12

'Subject one was ordered to lay on the floor face down.

0:52:120:52:15

'Subject refused order and jumped out the front door of the bank, therefore the subject was shot.

0:52:150:52:21

'Subject two - male.

0:52:210:52:23

'Subject failed or did not hear warning to clear the street.

0:52:230:52:28

'Subject was running down the street toward the bank and Combat Forces

0:52:280:52:31

'accordingly assumed subject was armed Enemy Force element.

0:52:310:52:34

'Therefore the subject was shot.'

0:52:340:52:37

It was Bonnie and Clyde. It was all that kind of thing that's very American, actually, at the core.

0:52:370:52:43

It's just that these guys were just doing it so...artistically.

0:52:430:52:48

The Hibernia Bank, Sunset branch,

0:53:570:53:59

was held up at gunpoint this morning at 9.40.

0:53:590:54:04

10,960 was taken in cash.

0:54:040:54:08

Witnesses state -

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five of the bank robbers entered the bank while four remained outside.

0:54:100:54:15

All made a getaway in two automobiles after firing several shots from automatic weapons.

0:54:150:54:21

In addition, Patricia Campbell Hearst

0:54:210:54:23

has been named in a Federal Warrant charging her with being a material witness to the bank robbery.

0:54:230:54:28

At this point we are simply saying we want to talk to Patricia Hearst.

0:54:280:54:32

I took the tape of Patricia Hearst

0:54:350:54:38

in the bank robbery over to the Berkeley School for the Deaf.

0:54:380:54:43

And they read her lips as to what she was saying in the bank.

0:54:430:54:50

"I'm Tania.

0:54:500:54:52

"Up, up, up against the wall."

0:54:520:54:54

And then everybody giggled because they couldn't say it.

0:54:540:54:56

-I said, "MF?" And they said, "Yeah!"

-If that was Patty Hearst, she had her hand on that gun.

0:54:560:55:02

She did have her hands on the trigger and ready to shoot anything that got in her way.

0:55:020:55:08

-PATTY:

-Greetings to the people, this is Tania.

0:55:080:55:11

Our action of April 15th forced the Corporate State to help finance the revolution.

0:55:110:55:18

As for being brainwashed, the idea is ridiculous to the point of being beyond belief.

0:55:180:55:24

I am a soldier in the People's Army.

0:55:240:55:27

The FBI looked like a bunch of idiots.

0:55:300:55:33

You know, here they couldn't find this little band of kids.

0:55:360:55:40

They couldn't catch these people. They were putting out communiques.

0:55:420:55:46

They were forcing this stuff to be fed live, unedited,

0:55:460:55:51

to the whole country.

0:55:510:55:53

Sure, they were pissed, man.

0:55:530:55:56

They wanted them dead.

0:55:560:55:59

'To B-Team Commander and all elements of anti-aircraft forces of the SLA,

0:55:590:56:05

'this is Teko speaking.

0:56:050:56:07

'The Malcolm X Combat Unit of the Symbionese Liberation Army left

0:56:070:56:11

'the San Francisco Bay Area in a successful effort to break a massive pig encirclement.

0:56:110:56:17

'It had become clear through intelligence reports that the pigs

0:56:170:56:21

'were preparing to trap us on the San Francisco peninsula.

0:56:210:56:25

The area is very small, surrounded by water, and with limited choices

0:56:250:56:29

for breaking a major encirclement.

0:56:290:56:31

REPORTER: 'A night-time raid on this apartment house

0:56:430:56:45

'gave the FBI its first big break in the three-month search

0:56:450:56:49

'for the Symbionese Liberation Army.

0:56:490:56:51

'Inside the apartment, abandoned last week, agents found terrorist slogans

0:56:510:56:55

'signed by Field Marshall Cinque

0:56:550:56:57

'and also by Tania, the name taken by Patty Hearst.'

0:56:570:57:03

They went to Los Angeles.

0:57:060:57:08

They left a message for the FBI, and Charlie you know, and said, "Beat you again, see you later,"

0:57:080:57:15

and took off.

0:57:150:57:17

< Do you assume that "happy hunting, Charles" was directed at you that was written on that wall?

0:57:170:57:21

I don't know. I haven't seen that.

0:57:210:57:23

There are a lot of people named Charles, Charlie. I haven't lost any sleep over it.

0:57:230:57:30

DeFreeze made some mention of, like, psychological warfare against the police.

0:57:300:57:36

It was like trying to fake the police out.

0:57:360:57:40

But it seemed like he totally lost track of that.

0:57:400:57:44

Well, are you doing this for the police?

0:57:440:57:45

Is the communique for the police?

0:57:450:57:47

Or is it to try to explain to people what you're doing?

0:57:470:57:50

I mean, who is if for? They seem to have lost

0:57:500:57:53

sight of...who are you trying to communicate with?

0:57:530:57:57

Why even worry about the police? Who cares what they think? They hate you, they want to kill you.

0:57:570:58:02

A lot of this is fantasy in their mind. I mean, they're living out a fantasy that's Peter Pan.

0:58:090:58:16

It was like watching a movie,

0:58:180:58:21

and there's the gang that we want to win.

0:58:210:58:26

You know, it was... Oh, we were pulling for them so much!

0:58:260:58:30

But it wasn't like, "Where do we go to join up," or anything like that.

0:58:300:58:36

They could not carry on what they were doing in Los Angeles.

0:58:400:58:45

It was a different culture and they soon found that out.

0:58:450:58:49

DeFreeze might have convinced them that he knew about Los Angeles but he didn't. He was from Cleveland.

0:58:490:58:55

On the late afternoon of May 16, 1974, at Mel's Sporting Goods Store,

0:58:570:59:04

Englewood, California, William Harris attempted to shoplift a pair of socks.

0:59:040:59:11

As William and Emily Harris departed Mel's Sporting Goods,

0:59:110:59:16

a scuffle ensued,

0:59:160:59:18

after which the store employees were the target of fire

0:59:180:59:23

from a van parked across the street.

0:59:230:59:26

Patricia Hearst fired the shots at Mel's Sporting Goods.

0:59:260:59:32

If there had not been the lifting of a pair of sweat socks,

0:59:370:59:39

did you have any indication that they had gone to LA?

0:59:390:59:42

No. We had none as of that time, no.

0:59:420:59:45

Mr Bates, are you saying that you had no idea that they had moved to Los Angeles?

0:59:450:59:50

-That's right.

-That's incredible, isn't it?

-Is it incredible?

0:59:500:59:53

When we interviewed people who they'd stayed with, they were so stoned out on reds

0:59:530:59:58

they could barely keep their eyes open.

0:59:581:00:02

But they turned them in, too, you know. "Don't burn my house

1:00:021:00:06

"down for your revolution" - that was the attitude.

1:00:061:00:10

'Yes, you do indeed know me.

1:00:121:00:15

'You have always known me.

1:00:151:00:18

'I'm that nigger you have hunted and feared night and day.

1:00:181:00:21

'I'm that nigger you have killed hundreds of my people

1:00:211:00:24

'in a vain hope of finding.

1:00:241:00:26

'That nigger that is no longer just the hunted, robbed and murdered.

1:00:261:00:30

'I'm the nigger that hunts you now.

1:00:301:00:34

'Yes, you know me. You know us all.

1:00:341:00:36

You know me, I'm the wetback.

1:00:361:00:37

'You know me, I'm the wetback, gook, the broad, the servant, the spick.

1:00:401:00:43

'Yes, indeed you know us all, and we know you, the oppressor, murderer and robber.

1:00:431:00:49

'And you have hunted and robbed and exploited us all.

1:00:491:00:52

'Now WE are the hunters that will give you no rest.

1:00:521:00:55

'And we will not compromise the freedom of our children.

1:00:551:01:00

'Death to the fascist insect that preys upon the life of the people.'

1:01:001:01:04

They're getting ready for an assault, and there's no doubt about that.

1:01:111:01:15

Before we stop counting, there's another, about five plainclothes police cars have moved in

1:01:151:01:20

on to the corner, on Compton Avenue here. Officers with weapons, with loaded weapons.

1:01:201:01:26

Ah, now more officers are moving right in the position where we were. So they must be getting ready.

1:01:261:01:30

There's no doubt about that in my mind.

1:01:301:01:33

Occupants of 1466 come out now!

1:01:361:01:40

Come out with your hands up. Come out of the house and you will not be harmed. Come out! Hands up!

1:01:401:01:46

Maybe the people inside the house are thinking, "That's like when the San Francisco police say give up" -

1:01:481:01:53

it means you don't have to right away. But in LA it meant you had to right away.

1:01:531:01:59

-That white house with the two windows there?

-As far as I can determine. You've got as close as I have.

1:02:031:02:08

GUNFIRE That's bad! That's bad!

1:02:081:02:12

Stay over on the other side of the street!

1:02:121:02:15

Hey, get out of there! Get out of there, they're shooting that way!

1:02:211:02:24

'We need additional ambulances to come down because we're gonna have some injuries if this keeps up.'

1:02:241:02:31

-Cover this driveway, please!

-They're moving us back. They're moving us back.

1:02:311:02:36

This was right at the time when the technology changed

1:02:361:02:40

in television. As far as I know this was the first time something

1:02:401:02:44

like that that wasn't a planned event was actually carried live nationwide.

1:02:441:02:49

I mean, the whole world is watching this shootout.

1:02:491:02:53

'Listen up, because we're going to need your assistance. We need all ammo that we've got in the safe.

1:02:531:02:59

'We're taking automatic fire front and back from this location, they're much better armed than we are.'

1:02:591:03:04

They have more ammunition than the police do which is an incredible thing, it's hard to believe.

1:03:041:03:08

There's no reason to believe we're going to get loose here. We're going to be pinned down here a long time.

1:03:081:03:14

We are on the scene. You can't get closer that we're standing right now and not have your brains blown out.

1:03:251:03:31

Good God! If you ever had a condition, as I said before, where the left doesn't know when it's won,

1:03:311:03:37

if the SLA had thought about it at all, they'd won, they could have given up and made a speech there.

1:03:371:03:43

They had the whole world listening to them. And they decide to fight.

1:03:431:03:48

OK, we got one coming out!

1:03:531:03:55

40 David to CP, authorisation to use fragmentation type grenades?

1:04:011:04:07

-Are they white people?

-Back up, back up!

1:04:161:04:20

'She advised that there is a black male and white females within the building.

1:04:221:04:29

'All armed, all firing.'

1:04:301:04:33

RADIO: 'Stay put. Stay put. We have two other crews in the area.'

1:04:331:04:37

-That house is on fire, man! What, smoke grenades?

-The fire is raging. Now we've got a better vantage point

1:04:371:04:44

and we're trying to bring you these live pictures as they occur.

1:04:441:04:47

Hold your fire! Everybody, hold your fire!

1:04:471:04:50

'One person was brought out.

1:04:501:04:53

'We haven't seen anyone else come out of there.

1:04:531:04:55

'Of course, we're not really in a position to have seen them, but I believe they would have

1:04:551:04:58

'brought them around this corner and down if they had.

1:04:581:05:01

'And, of course, the obvious conclusion is that the Los Angeles Police

1:05:011:05:05

'have indeed found the nesting place of the Symbionese Liberation Army and there's not much left of it now.'

1:05:051:05:11

They just went in and killed everybody.

1:05:221:05:26

Joe and I heard the whole thing.

1:05:261:05:28

We couldn't see anything

1:05:281:05:30

where we were. We didn't have TV's or anything like that.

1:05:301:05:35

But we heard the whole shootout.

1:05:351:05:37

We kept hoping it wasn't them at first, you know.

1:05:391:05:42

Once we heard them firing thousands of rounds of ammunition and shooting high temperature teargas grenades

1:05:421:05:49

in there and setting the place on fire, eventually we realised that it must be them.

1:05:491:05:55

And we figured, "Well, this is it.

1:05:571:06:00

"This is what we were afraid of and now it's happened".

1:06:001:06:05

'Los Angeles County Coroner, Thomas Naguchi, faced a jam-packed news conference after autopsies

1:06:171:06:23

'were completed on the bodies found in the wreckage of the SLA hideout.'

1:06:231:06:26

'Dr Thomas Naguchi just called the Hearst residence and talked with Mr Hearst just a few minutes ago.

1:06:261:06:34

'He told Mr Hearst that...um...

1:06:341:06:37

'they have examined all of the five bodies taken from that house in Los Angeles,

1:06:371:06:43

'and the conclusion they have reached exactly is that Patty Hearst was not,

1:06:431:06:49

'I repeat, was not in that house yesterday.'

1:06:491:06:54

They knew that Hearst was not in that house. That was all bullshit.

1:07:001:07:04

They knew because of how Bill and Emily and Hearst had gotten away

1:07:041:07:08

and the path that they had

1:07:081:07:10

taken and everything, and when they had surrounded that house and put it under surveillance and all that.

1:07:101:07:14

They knew she wasn't there. That was all bullshit.

1:07:141:07:17

It was quite certain that the Harrises and Patty

1:07:181:07:22

had not gotten back to the residence down there.

1:07:221:07:26

Why there was no negotiation?

1:07:261:07:29

It's not by the book.

1:07:301:07:32

It's not by the book.

1:07:321:07:34

Did they start shooting from the inside out first? I don't know.

1:07:341:07:37

They don't teach you that in hostage negotiation courses, that's for damned sure.

1:07:391:07:43

I think if you took a poll in the Los Angeles area that the citizens

1:07:471:07:52

would not only be supportive of the way

1:07:521:07:56

the police handled it, my feeling is that

1:07:561:07:59

their feeling is one of admiration for the way the police handled it.

1:07:591:08:02

I know that there were some people who said, "Well, gee,

1:08:021:08:05

"instead of telling them to come out in five minutes they should have given them ten minutes".

1:08:051:08:08

Somebody else suggested they should have starved them out.

1:08:081:08:12

You know, these may be well meaning people

1:08:121:08:14

but I think they forget the setting in which the police operated.

1:08:141:08:18

'Greetings to the people.

1:08:241:08:27

'This is Tania. I want to talk about the way I knew our six murdered

1:08:271:08:32

'comrades because the fascist pig media have, of course,

1:08:321:08:36

'been painting a typically distorted picture of these beautiful sisters and brothers.

1:08:361:08:41

'Cinque was in a race with time, believing that every minute must

1:08:411:08:46

'be another step forward in the fight to save the children.

1:08:461:08:50

'Gelina was beautiful.

1:08:501:08:52

'She taught me how to fight the enemy within through her struggle

1:08:521:08:57

'with bourgeois conditioning.'

1:08:571:08:58

'Gabi crouched low with her ass to the ground.

1:08:581:09:02

'She practised until her shotgun was an extension of both her arms.

1:09:021:09:07

'Zoya, female guerrilla.

1:09:071:09:09

Perfect love and perfect hate 'reflected in stone cold eyes.

1:09:091:09:15

'Fahizah taught me to shoot first and make sure the pig is dead

1:09:151:09:18

'before splitting. She was wise and bad.

1:09:181:09:22

'Cujo was the gentlest, most beautiful man I've ever known.

1:09:221:09:28

'He taught me the truth as he learned it from beautiful brothers

1:09:281:09:32

'in California's concentration camps.

1:09:321:09:35

'Neither Cujo or I had ever loved an individual the way we loved each other.

1:09:351:09:39

'Our relationship's foundation was our commitment to the struggle and our love for the people.

1:09:391:09:45

'I died in that fire on 54th Street, but out of the ashes I was reborn.

1:09:461:09:52

'I know what I have to do.'

1:09:521:09:53

I want to talk about the atrocity that took place in Los Angeles.

1:10:011:10:05

I'm really angry, so people have to bear with me.

1:10:051:10:08

I'm still angry for what I saw and the things I heard that went down

1:10:081:10:12

in LA on Saturday afternoon.

1:10:121:10:14

You know, I want to deal with the beginning.

1:10:141:10:15

It takes the actions of SLA to feed poor people in this state,

1:10:151:10:21

throughout the United States of North America.

1:10:211:10:24

It'll take many more SLAs to come along and deal with fascist elements in this fascist, racist country

1:10:241:10:32

that we are confronted with as so-called American citizens.

1:10:321:10:35

Here's the most notorious kidnap victim in the world, travelling

1:10:351:10:40

with the two best known kidnappers

1:10:401:10:43

in the world, and yet they slide into Berkeley unnoticed and are given

1:10:431:10:49

safe refuge almost immediately.

1:10:491:10:51

Cinque, Willie, Camilla,

1:10:511:10:53

Mizmoon and Fahizah were viciously attacked and murdered by 500 pigs

1:10:531:10:59

in LA while the nation watched.

1:10:591:11:01

And now the media is trying to say they were trying to escape by tunnelling

1:11:011:11:06

under the house where they had chickened out at the last minute.

1:11:061:11:08

Well, I believe that Gelina and her comrades fought to the last minute.

1:11:081:11:12

And though I would like to have her be here with me right now, I know that she lived and she died happy.

1:11:121:11:19

SLA soldiers, although I know it's not necessary to say, keep fighting.

1:11:191:11:24

I'm with you, and we are with you.

1:11:241:11:27

Right on!

1:11:271:11:28

The door could have knocked with Emily, Bill or Patty Hearst saying, "God, they're trying to kill us,

1:11:321:11:38

"we need help." They could have knocked on 200 doors in Berkeley and 150 would have hid them out.

1:11:381:11:43

We were just the ones that happened to have the door knocked.

1:11:431:11:47

Bill becomes the new leader of the SLA.

1:11:521:11:58

He's the surviving male guy, the authority figure, and he wants to be

1:11:581:12:03

the new General Field Marshall.

1:12:031:12:05

So General Teko takes over.

1:12:061:12:09

I'd have to say that

1:12:111:12:13

once I met all three of them,

1:12:131:12:16

I was kind of disappointed in how flat they were.

1:12:161:12:21

They didn't seem to be that smart.

1:12:211:12:24

There wasn't a fingernail of charisma among the three of them.

1:12:241:12:28

That was kind of dawning on me,

1:12:301:12:33

how middle class they all seemed.

1:12:331:12:36

'I renounced my class privilege when Cin and Cujo gave me the name Tania.

1:12:361:12:43

'And I would never choose to live the rest of my life surrounded by pigs like the Hearsts.'

1:12:431:12:50

I just hope everybody will remember that physically Patty is still

1:12:501:12:55

a kidnap victim, she was taken away against her will.

1:12:551:12:59

And, psychologically, she's a victim of thought control by terrorists.

1:12:591:13:05

And all I can do is hope and pray that God will bring her home again.

1:13:051:13:11

'Death to the fascist insect that preys upon the life of the people.'

1:13:151:13:20

To this day I can't understand why the need was felt to keep on

1:13:351:13:40

with this kind of militaristic fantasy.

1:13:401:13:46

Just end it and be done with it and good luck.

1:13:471:13:51

These four, as soon as they entered the bank,

1:14:131:14:16

announced that it was a hold-up, everyone to get down on the floor and put their faces in the rug.

1:14:161:14:21

And with that, a shot rang out, hitting Mrs Opsahl.

1:14:211:14:25

The leader of the group told everyone in the bank that,

1:14:301:14:34

if they didn't co-operate, they would receive the same in return.

1:14:341:14:38

With that, two of the individuals vaulted the counter, start scooping up the cash.

1:14:381:14:42

They were kicking people in the head, stepping on their faces

1:14:421:14:46

and just shouting profanity throughout.

1:14:461:14:50

There was nothing left to be gained by the SLA

1:14:501:14:53

at the point of that Carmichael Bank robbery, except money.

1:14:531:14:58

I think the killing scared the hell out of them,

1:15:081:15:11

not just because it would mean the police were after them more, but because

1:15:111:15:17

it was an immoral thing to have happened. It was not something they meant to do.

1:15:171:15:22

And I think that bothered them more than people realise.

1:15:221:15:28

I have family in the world.

1:15:281:15:30

I have friends in the world. I don't want to be thought of as a murderer.

1:15:301:15:33

I don't want to be thought of

1:15:331:15:36

as some fucking maniac that goes and shoots up a bank,

1:15:361:15:40

acting like a radical, leave a woman to die like that!

1:15:401:15:43

Now, if you're asking me, "Well, someone did that."

1:15:491:15:54

Obviously. I wasn't there.

1:15:541:15:56

I didn't do it. If you ask me - can I say 100% that Jim or Kathy

1:15:561:16:02

or Patty or the Harrises or Wendy did or did not do it, I can't say.

1:16:021:16:07

It looks like there's some involvement there, isn't there,

1:16:071:16:10

somewhere along the line? But I don't know.

1:16:101:16:12

They lied about me that bad.

1:16:121:16:14

I don't know.

1:16:141:16:17

I don't know. I can't honestly say on the stand...

1:16:171:16:23

I mean, how am I going to know who is or is not involved if I'm really not involved, you know?

1:16:241:16:30

But... And I don't really care.

1:16:301:16:34

I don't care.

1:16:341:16:36

At 2.25pm, less than 30 minutes ago,

1:16:421:16:46

we arrested Patty Hearst at 625 Morse in the Outer Mission district.

1:16:461:16:54

We did observe two people who looked like they could be Bill and Emily Harris,

1:16:561:17:03

and, as a result, the arrest was made.

1:17:031:17:06

Oh, boy. Here we go, here we go.

1:17:201:17:22

This is it. That's her! Hey, Patty!

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Hey, Patty!

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CHEERING AND WHISTLING

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'But it was Patty Hearst herself who gave a clue that she is a far different person

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'now than the 19-year-old girl who was kidnapped 19 months ago.'

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When asked for her occupation while being booked she told the officer, "urban guerrilla".

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And all these naive radicals just hearing

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what they wanted to hear, basically.

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You know, they wanted a rich person to convert to their cause.

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She was just, they just had a mutual agenda for a while, that's all it was as it turned out.

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We were all fooled.

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I don't believe Patty's legal problems are that serious.

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After all, she's primarily a kidnap victim. She never went off and did anything of her own free will.

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It is probably the mystery story of the 20th century.

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And it finally unfolded today, one version of it, Patty Hearst's

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own version of it, here at the Federal Court House in San Francisco, as the whole world watched.

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It unfolded in this shocking, chilling, and deeply moving affidavit

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filed by Patty Hearst herself through her attorneys.

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She was placed in a closet on the floor.

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The closet was approximately 5 to 6 feet in length and about 2½ or 3 feet in width.

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During all this time she was in a constant state of fear and terror,

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and expected at any moment to be murdered by her captors.

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After an interminable length of time,

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which seemed to her to be weeks,

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she was released from the closet and seated with the gang of captors.

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When the blindfold was removed

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she felt as if she was on an LSD trip.

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Everything appeared so distorted and terrible that she believed and feared she was losing her sanity.

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She was put in an automobile and taken to a site,

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which she now understands was a branch of the Hibernia Bank.

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She was given a gun and directed to stand about in the centre of the bank counter.

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Meanwhile, one of her captors, armed with a gun that was kept

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pointed at her, kept an eye on her, and had told her in advance that if she made one false move

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or did anything except announce her name, she would be killed instantly.

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When she was taken back to her place of captivity, she was told by them that she was now guilty

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of bank robbery and murder and that the FBI would shoot her on sight.

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In her disordered and frightened mind, this appeared to her to be probable.

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And it was so insisted upon by members of the gang that she finally came to believe it.

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Her recollection of everything that transpired up to the time that she was arrested

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has been as though she lived in a fog, in which she was confused,

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still unable to distinguish between actuality and fantasy.

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Part of the dilemma of understanding Patricia Hearst in this whole thing is that

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there are so many obvious opportunities she had

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to simply walk down the street, hail a cab, get in a car,

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call her father, call me, anybody, and it was over.

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She never did.

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Well, this is quite a difference from last time, and thank you all.

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I'm really happy to be going home.

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And I want to thank my parents,

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and my sisters, and Bernie,

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and George too -

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and all of the people on the committee to release me.

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And this is what we worked so hard to get.

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There it is. It's the commutation.

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-Thank you all so much.

-Are you going to take a vacation of any kind?

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-I am. Bye-bye.

-Where you going?

-Oh, I won't tell.

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As far as changing the whole society goes, it was always a pipe dream.

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The true communist state where everybody is a brother to everybody else and we all share everything

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and, you know, everybody lives happily ever after. I mean, I would've been fine with that.

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But, yeah I know I'm older now.

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People, they're working, they're paying their mortgage, they're worrying about their kids, you know.

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But when you're 21, 22, 23 years old...

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I was 24 years old when I was arrested.

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People talk about, "Hearst was only 19." Hey, we were all young.

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Four former Symbionese Liberation Army members,

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accused of murdering a Carmichael woman during a bank robbery in 1975, plead guilty today.

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'In court, four of the SLA members who pulled off the heist,

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'apologized 27 years after Myrna Opsahl was killed

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'in a bank robbery in Carmichael.'

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Each entered a plea of guilty of murder in the second degree.

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Mr Harris admitted that he was armed during the commission of the crime.

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This is the time and the place for judgment and sentence.

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The defendants will be remanded into custody to serve prison sentences.

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As I stated last time,

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the fact that...

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Mrs Opsahl was murdered unintentionally in the bank

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is of no consequence to the family.

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Or the fact that we beat ourselves up more than anyone could,

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and really alienated ourselves from what we believed in

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and ostracized ourselves.

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And that's probably the saddest thing about

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these kinds of cases, whether you're well intentioned or poor intentioned

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or not, there's not a good result.

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A woman is dead and many people suffer from those consequences.

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And I can offer nothing but my apologies and...

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I'm sorry.

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Miss Montague will be sentenced to eight years in prison.

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Mr Harris will be sentenced to seven years in prison.

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Miss Olsen will be sentenced to six years in prison.

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Mr Bortin will be sentenced to six years in prison.

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APPLAUSE

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Now my next guest went from kidnap victim to terrorist.

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She was once the most wanted woman in America.

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Take a seat.

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It is truly remarkable to meet you because you are a part of all our history.

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It's something that intrigues everybody.

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Just to get an idea of why the kidnap happened, you were the grand-daughter of William Randolph Hearst.

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Your family were supremely rich.

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What was your childhood like?

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What was life like living like that?

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Well, it was great. I think it was really pretty perfect.

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