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Britain is a green and pleasant land, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
but for how long? | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
We're now getting to a situation where any site's worth putting a planning application in for. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:12 | |
After the biggest shake-up of the planning system in 40 years, | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
the race is on to get Britain building. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
If I have a house here, | 0:00:19 | 0:00:20 | |
I'm thinking about building a sort of Berlin Wall, it's got to be at least six feet high. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
So constructors are making plans... | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
Whoever designed that needs to be shot. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
..objectors are making noises. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
THEY MURMUR | 0:00:32 | 0:00:33 | |
I've had enough of what we've got in this town for councillors | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
-and the load of -BLEEP -they're putting up. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:37 | |
And neighbours are going to war. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
We always won our battles as a family | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
and we'll win this one. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
In the firing line, shaping the country of the future, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
are Britain's planners. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
-But nothing happens in the hall, yeah? -No... -No, yes, no. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
Thanks for letting us visit and we'll see you on Thursday. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
SHE SOBS | 0:00:56 | 0:00:57 | |
Another British planning cock-up, really. | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
Ooh! | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
The government wants building and construction | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
to kick-start the economy. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:17 | |
But where should we build? | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
This is the dilemma facing planning officers up and down the country. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
The Cheshire village of Tattenhall | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
is facing an unprecedented number of planning applications | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
to build housing estates on its green fields. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
This village at the moment is under siege, | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
it doesn't make logical sense, | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
for a village that has taken 100 years to build 60 houses, | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
they are now going to build 500 houses in one year. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
National house-building firms are targeting the village's green fields. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:57 | |
But two local developers think they have a better solution - | 0:01:59 | 0:02:04 | |
a disused brownfield site. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
Oh, big piece of chicken for you. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
No, no, no! | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
-Are you a vegetarian? -No! | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
The land belongs to Robin and Amanda Blackham, | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
small-scale developers that specialise | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
in re-using old buildings and materials. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
-That's how this house used to look. -In its heyday. 1930... | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
The project they're most proud of | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
is their six-bedroom Cheshire farmhouse, | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
home to their children - Tallulah, Wilbur and Enza. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
That's my mum's bedroom. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
They restored it over 15 years | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
and decorated it with Amanda's artwork. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
I love houses, Robin loves houses, all my art is houses. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
I love houses, yeah, it's just something we are into. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
-We've actually had a lot of fun with it. -Yeah, a lot of fun in this house. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
By the time we found it, it had been stripped of everything. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
There wasn't any running water or electric in here. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
For the first 12 months, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
we lived in one room, didn't we? | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
And I'd shower in the garden | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
spraying a hose pipe at me. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
It was quite entertaining | 0:03:09 | 0:03:10 | |
cos the A41 would go past and we would see Robin being hosed down. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:03:14 | 0:03:15 | |
It's been blood sweat and tears and a lot of love in it. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
Because all three children, you know, it's very much our home. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
Robin and Amanda run a reclamation yard a mile from Tattenhall village. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
Five years ago, they bought this two-acre site | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
across the road from their yard for £932,000 | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
and planned to renovate the disused country pub | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
and build 31 new houses. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
We are not millionaire developers. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
This obviously is the largest development we have ever done, | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
we have only ever done a few sites with one and two houses on before. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:57 | |
We have basically got a scheme, | 0:03:57 | 0:03:58 | |
which is using the entire brownfield site here. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
And we are currently looking at 31 houses on the plot, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
two, three and for and five-bedroom houses, so a mixture. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
We've got an existing pub that would be completely restored, | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
the idea is to develop a shop and an outreach post office. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
This will be the village green, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
and the housing will wrap around and comes down through here. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
The Blackhams have applied for planning permission | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
on their brownfield site three times before, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
but were turned down on the grounds the site wasn't sustainable. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
It's over a mile from the village, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
down a dangerous road with no footpath. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
With the big developers moving into the village, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
the Blackhams' proposals could be overshadowed. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
Our concern is that if they do get the green field, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
because they have got the power, big lawyers, big bank balances... | 0:04:54 | 0:04:59 | |
So they've got a lot of wedge behind them, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
then the housing saturation will be done in this area. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
This will leave the brownfield site in more of decay and not used. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:11 | |
With thousands tied up in the land, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
the Blackhams have to get their fourth application through. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
This has taken five years to get it to this point. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
If it doesn't happen this time, we've pretty well lost everything, haven't we? | 0:05:20 | 0:05:25 | |
We couldn't carry on with the business. Everything goes. It's the end of the line. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:30 | |
Rain, hail, sleet, snow, flood, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
pestilence, hurricanes, plague of frogs. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
You name it we have been there. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
Fiona Edwards, head planner at Cheshire West and Chester Council | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
is considering the Blackhams' latest plans. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
Her team has always recommended the site be developed in the past, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
only for it to be thrown out on appeal. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:59 | |
If this was bang in the middle of the village, in pure planning policy terms, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
it would have every green light above it. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
But the planning inspector didn't consider this was a sustainable site | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
because it is about a mile away from Tattenhall. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
It was too far away from facilities. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
People wouldn't walk to Tattenhall to use the shops. They would use the car. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:21 | |
The Blackhams could make nearly a million if the scheme goes ahead. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
If it doesn't, they may need to sell their home. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
These guys know, because we're always going to planning meetings, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
Another babysitter - Mummy and Daddy are going to another planning meeting. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
It's a stress that nobody needs in their lives for more than six months let alone five years. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:51 | |
We want to get this planning over with and have a nice life. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
No second chance now. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
We have to take that through planning on that site because otherwise it's worthless. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:06 | |
We have to do it to keep the house and keep everything else working. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
We've got to do it. We have no choice. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
The planners can only recommend whether the housing developments | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
in Tattenhall should be approved or rejected. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
The three greenfield proposals and Blackhams' brownfield site | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
will be decided by the planning committee. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
And there is a powerful objector to the schemes - Mike Jones, the Tattenhall ward councillor | 0:07:32 | 0:07:38 | |
and leader of West Cheshire and Chester Council. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
All the developers think that they could make a bit of money by doing a lot of development in Tattenhall, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:47 | |
but that very development would ruin what is a very vibrant and nice place to live. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:52 | |
It's going to be a 70% increase if all these houses were built and I think that is fundamentally wrong | 0:07:55 | 0:08:01 | |
in a small community like Tattenhall. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
When it comes to buildings, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
Planners have to encourage good design, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
but design is more important to some than to others. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
It's a big extension, isn't it? | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
Yes, it's an extremely substantial extension. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
In Rochdale, planners Rebecca Coley and Peter Rawlinson | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
are considering plans to extend an Islamic Community Centre on the site of an old pub. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
It looks to me as though no imagination or thought | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
for the wider environment in this scheme whatsoever. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
Absolutely none. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:50 | |
Do the cheapest, not necessarily the most cheerful. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
It's certainly not of the quality that I would want to see in Rochdale. | 0:08:55 | 0:09:01 | |
Rebecca needs to decide if the proposed extension will be in keeping with its surroundings. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:09 | |
It will start here, off this corner, all the way down... | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
..to here, somewhere in the bushes. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
It is also proposed to be built in brick rather than the render | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
that the rest of the building is in, which is a bit of a contrast. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
On the far side, facing into the industrial estate, there's no windows proposed. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:45 | |
It is literally a 32 metre long, six meter high blank brick wall. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:50 | |
That's it. Nothing else. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
This is a poor scheme which has simply looked at the size of the site and put a building on it. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:59 | |
There are 17 mosques in Rochdale, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
but this building is the only one serving the small | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
community of Shia Muslims who live in the town. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
We are only a subsection of the Muslim community. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
We follow the teachings of the family of Mohammed, Peace Be Upon Him. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
Twelve years ago, the disused pub was given a new lease of life | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
when the Shia community bought the building and the Mustafa Islamic Centre opened. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:31 | |
That's a good question. It's a very good question. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
Raza Hussain teaches at the Sunday school. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
Why would Allah ask him to do something that was so difficult? | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
They are making cards over here and posters there, discussing philosophical ideas | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
and we are still sitting on floors like we did when I was a kid. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
We don't have enough room for chairs. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
These areas act as everything for us, classrooms, function rooms, lecture halls. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
We use all of the same space for all of that. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
Syed Shah and Zulfiqar Shah manage the centre | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
and have been planning the extension for two-and-half years. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
We desperately need a better place. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
Especially for the ladies because they are using upstairs. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:19 | |
They are struggling, especially disabled. We have to carry them up stairs. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:25 | |
It's got a lift for the disabled. It's got all the things that we need, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:31 | |
This is the future for our community's teenagers. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
But the design of the building isn't the only issue for Rebecca and the planners. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
It is a very busy area, industrial area, served by large lorries and wagons. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:49 | |
Planning policy requires that a new building like this one | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
has one car parking space for every five square meters of floor space. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:58 | |
This development should have 115 car parking spaces for the proposed amount of floor space. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:06 | |
They are only proposing three. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
We think the consequences of that is that people would park either side of this street | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
and you wouldn't be able to get a HGV down. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
My biggest frustration with it is that we put an alternative scheme to them. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:19 | |
And they are not willing to negotiate and not willing to listen. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
Rebecca's team asked the community to change their plans | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
and build a smaller centre with more parking. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
But they refused. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
These issues with the road safety, the HGVs, traffic, parking... | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
we use our centre predominantly in the evenings and on a weekend as well. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:39 | |
So, when parking is required, there's no HGVs going around, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
this place is dead, this area is quiet. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
With no compromise being found, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
Rochdale's planners are going to try to stop the development going ahead. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:54 | |
We are recommending this application for refusal. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
As planners, we should always try to improve the environment - it's a fundamental of being a planner. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
You don't say, "Oh, it's a bit scruffy so it doesn't matter." | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
It does matter. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:06 | |
We really need it. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
If we can't get the permission it is a real disaster for us. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
Britain's planners deal with almost half a million applications every year. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
But not everyone gets permission before they build. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
In Gloucestershire, planner Phil Skill is dealing with a homeowner who has built a new shed | 0:13:35 | 0:13:41 | |
and now needs retrospective permission to keep it. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
What we have got here is an application for a big, steel shed, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:52 | |
sort of industrial scale and size and materials. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
Unfortunately for them, there is a road that goes around the back. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
If you've got a road at the front and at the back, you've got two fronts, if you like. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
So, they could not benefit from permitted development rights. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
Building an extension, garage, or shed on land next to a road | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
is not allowed unless its got planning permission. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
They said, fair enough, gov. Hands up. We'll put an application in. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
We got an application and here we are adjudicating on it. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
The applicant in question, is truck mechanic Ian Ruther. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:31 | |
For Ian, large vehicles are a way of life. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
Collection of small toys, small tractor I have got there. Probably my most useful bit of kit. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:39 | |
I mow the grass with it. It's versatile and useful. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
Ian has motorbikes, an industrial scale trailer | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
and an articulated lorry that he's converting into a campervan. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
But his pride and joy is his Unimog. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
It's a vintage German-built off roader | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
and cost £15,000. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
First sat in one of these in 1980, at the Smithfield show in London. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
Wanted one ever since, saved up, bought one now. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:13 | |
Spent six months restoring this, weekends and evenings, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
and fiddle with it to my heart's content. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
Classed as a classic now, a collector's piece. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:28 | |
It's a toy really. A boyhood fantasy I think, never grew up. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
Supporting Ian in his love for all things big | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
is his wife of 21 years, Sarah. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
I see him occasionally! I don't mind. I know where he is. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
He's happy. That's all that matters. He likes playing with big toys. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:56 | |
Regular jacks don't get you anywhere. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
We bought this house because it had all the land with it. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
Where we were before, he was never able to do that. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
We don't feel we've actually done anything wrong. He's put up a shed | 0:16:06 | 0:16:11 | |
and basically that is all it is. He's put up a shed. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
He's now been told that he can't have his shed. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
But this isn't the first time | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
Ian's had trouble with his home improvements. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
Neighbours have reported him to planners on ten separate occasions. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:27 | |
When I moved here first, there was a stone wall, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
where you'll see this wooden fence. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
I applied to the council to remove the wall and put a fence up. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
They gave me written permission. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
Three of the complaints that came in now, that was 11 years ago, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
say, "He took a wall out he shouldn't have taken out." | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
Now the neighbours are suspicious about Ian's trucks | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
and the new building to house them. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
They see me working in here most weekends. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
They see things coming in and out, they see trailers. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
They see my Unimog going in and out. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
To them, I'm running a business | 0:17:00 | 0:17:01 | |
because people don't understand what you do. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
Instead of asking a question and coming to see you. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
That's probably why my direct neighbours don't complain | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
because they know me and understand what I do. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
But some neighbours have contacted the council | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
to formally object to Ian's shed. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
They're worried this is more than a hobby | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
and Ian is running a repair business from his house. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
Ian, who has applied for it, is saying it's for domestic use. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:38 | |
I don't think anyone believes that. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
There must be rules that say you can't develop commercial operations. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
-We want them implemented in this case. -If that is the case. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
You're not allowed to run commercial operations from domestic premises, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
and he is. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:52 | |
He's not running a business. It's a shame really. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
It just leaves a really nasty aftertaste in the mouth. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:01 | |
You just hope that the process represents what everybody thinks | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
and that's what you pay your rates and your taxes for, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
for the law to be upheld. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
If we all started carrying on like him, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
all of our lives would be blighted by people who have no real sort | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
of empathy with anyone else. That's the way I look at it. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
Any complaint is totally unfounded, | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
It's not encroaching on anybody else's land, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
it's not affecting anybody's light. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
People who are half a mile away who are unhappy with it, | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
I really think they need to watch a bit more daytime TV. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:38 | |
If the planners decide Ian is running a business, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
then the shed will have to come down. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
In this case, what we've got | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
is somebody with large pieces of machinery in their back garden. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
I suppose from his profession, it could be seen | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
that he might be doing it on a commercial basis. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
We're investigating that at the moment. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
If they were for commercial gain, we would be taking enforcement action. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:07 | |
In Tattenhall in Cheshire, Robin and Amanda Blackham | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
want to build 31 houses on their brownfield site. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:23 | |
Their chief opponent is council leader Mike Jones. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
He's a full-time councillor and has campaigned | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
against their previous applications | 0:19:36 | 0:19:37 | |
because the site is too far from the village. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
The real objection to it was sticking 40 houses | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
in the middle of nowhere with no facilities for the community | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
and young people that would live there. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
No pavement and cars travelling at 60 mph in each direction. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
I objected to it on that basis. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
I won that argument both in council and with the inspector. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
My job is to represent the community. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
I've agreed in principle that site should be developed | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
but it had to be developed in the right way. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
If you're negotiating with these hard-nosed developers | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
who are going to make a couple of million quid out of these things, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
and I've got no problem with that, but they do it on the basis | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
they do what's right for the community, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
not for them as individuals. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:20 | |
But for this latest application, the Blackhams think they've found | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
a solution to councillor Jones's objections. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
As well as re-opening the pub with its own post office, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
they've offered to spend £400,000 | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
laying a footpath from their site to the village, over a mile away. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:41 | |
This hedge here's going to be moved backwards | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
and we're just going to connect the footpath all the way back | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
into the village of Tattenhall. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
It seems crazy but it's all about sustainability | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
and for us to get our planning we're going to need | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
all the sustainability ticks of the boxes. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
This was Robin's brainwave. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
It's going to cost an awful lot | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
but we are willing to do that to get our planning | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
and that's the corner we have been pushed into over the years. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
The council's highway office will decide if the footpath | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
is a good way to connect the development with the rest of the village. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:29 | |
I've always enjoyed highways. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
It's always been a passion if I could say that. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
I like transport generally. I like large transport, HGVs. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
I think I am quite unique perhaps. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
I'm sure people would nod when I say that. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
Approval from Ken could go a long way towards answering | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
critics of the Blackhams' plans. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
We have got to make sure that users of the highway | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
are as safe, or safer, as a result of this development. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
My concerns are the design of the footway, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
and there is the risk of the hedge growing out | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
and becoming an obstruction on the footway so I have got | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
to make sure that the footway has sufficient width behind it. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
I hope it ticks all the boxes | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
because at the end of the day, that's what we are here for. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
To get development, to get people in houses. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
It's Desperate Dan stuff in this country at the moment, isn't it? | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
When Ken's report comes in, it supports the Blackhams' footpath. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:46 | |
They've got the support of the planners, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
now they've got to get past Mike Jones | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
and the other councillors on the planning committee. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
We think they have made enough of a difference now. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
We can say it is sustainable development. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
So we will look forward to seeing what the planning committee | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
have to say and whether our recommendation for approval | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
is the right one. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:05 | |
We'll await the deliberations with interest. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
We are apprehensive again. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
Every time we have got to this point where everybody's behind it, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
it's a ridiculous situation thinking it's going to get knocked back again. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
Obviously, as the leader of the council, he's so powerful | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
he seems to be able to turn the strategic planning committee. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
Robin has done everything that the planners have asked. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
Every box is ticked, everybody is supporting it | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
apart from our one fly in the ointment. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
Across Britain, most homeowners can do minor building work | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
under what's known as permitted development. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
But some housing estates have these rights taken away. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:01 | |
If owners build a shed or put up a fence, | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
there's a chance the neighbours can complain to the planning department, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
and they'll have to apply for retrospective planning permission. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
If a neighbour sees someone building something | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
and they haven't got planning permission, the first thing they do | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
is ring the council and you can find yourself | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
in the middle of a neighbour dispute. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
It's tricky but you have to make the right decision. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
In Cheltenham, Stuart Millar's planning dispute started | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
when he pulled down his hedge and replaced it with a small fence. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
We've been here three years now. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
Just got round to doing the gardens. It was completely overgrown. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
Took all the overgrown bushes and hedges away. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
Put a fence up. Keep the kids in, let them play safely. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
He's off down the road before you know it. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
And he's quite hard to catch when he's got a head start. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
Come out now? You have locked my gate. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
Stuart lives on a typical '70s open plan estate | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
where all development is restricted to protect the open plan design. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
So when Stuart erected his two foot fence without planning permission, | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
he didn't just break planning laws, he also upset a neighbour. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:21 | |
John Newbury, a retired engineer who enjoys crafting his own furniture. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:27 | |
I decided I wanted to have a sofa. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
I decided a conversational sofa would actually be ideal. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:35 | |
You can turn it into somewhere to sleep when you want to have a doze. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
Quite a useful piece of furniture, really. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
John has lived on the estate for the last 37 years. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
It was built when open plan estates were the thing. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:57 | |
Because of the open aspect of the path, you don't feel hemmed in. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
There are some gardens that have pleasant flower displays | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
and this is an attractive feature for passing pedestrians. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
And he was walking past all day as we were taking the hedge out | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
and sort of building and just as we finished, | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
he wanders up with the land registry papers in hand waving them. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
There's a covenant saying that you can't build out in front of the house. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
Which is fair enough except for the fact that the hedge | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
that the fence was replacing was twice the height | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
and three or four times the width. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
John complained to his local councillor | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
who brought the fence to the attention of the enforcement team | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
at the council. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
Nine times out of ten for a fence like that, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
you don't need planning permission, but in that particular estate | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
they need planning permission, so we had no choice | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
but to ask for a planning application. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
With a formal application submitted, | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
the public have a right to object or support the fence. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
I said this is an inappropriate development for an open plan estate. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:07 | |
"The attractiveness of pedestrian routes relies upon | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
"the ability to enjoy floral displays, | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
"quirky gnome arrangements, individual blooms that are passed. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:17 | |
"Erecting a fence makes the route less attractive | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
"and so discourages people to walk." | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
Unless he's really small, I can't see how the fence is going | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
to stop him seeing into the garden, to be honest. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
It's the principle. He feels like he can come in | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
and do what he likes. You have to abide by the rules. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
I don't see that it has it upset anyone that much. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
It obviously has upset one person that much. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
Whether it's the fence or something else, I don't know. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
Only he will know. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
I actually offered the land registry documents, | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
and he actually told me to push off, you see. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
He effectively said "I am going to ignore your views, so go away." | 0:28:02 | 0:28:08 | |
Now planner Martin must decide | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
if the fence is in keeping with the estate. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
When dealing with larger applications | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
or smaller applications, you have to consider in the same way. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
Is it an appropriate form of development? | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
If it isn't, what would we want to suggest? | 0:28:26 | 0:28:31 | |
We don't want to make people knock things down for the sake of it. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
At the same time, if something is clearly unacceptable | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
we do have to make the right decision. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
In Gloucestershire, Ian and Sarah Ruther | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
have built a shed without planning permission. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
They need to convince the planners it's just to house | 0:28:55 | 0:28:59 | |
Ian's beloved Unimog, rather than a place to carry out | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
his work as a truck mechanic. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
Any complaints that have been made have all been made | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
about the fact he's running a business, | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
and it's absolutely crystal clear that he's not. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
He hasn't got the time for that. He's got a full-time job | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
which he's on call for 24/7. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
He's not running a business, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
he's just tinkering with lots of large toys. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
Objectors fear Ian's running a business, | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
so now the committee will decide if he has to take the shed down. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:34 | |
We like to take the members there. We put them on a bus | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
and we take them round all the sites. Keep them corralled. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
Like herding cats sometimes, to be quite honest. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
But before they can make up their minds about the over-sized shed... | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
Locked, isn't it? That way. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
..they need to get in to see it. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
I don't know if you can see enough on tip-toe. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
You can see just through there. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
It is a retrospective application, | 0:30:03 | 0:30:05 | |
considerably larger than a domestic shed. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
We've got nothing to hide, we have done nothing wrong. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
But even so you still feel they're intruding and it's just excuse | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
for them to come round and have a good old nosy | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
at what you've got in your garden. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
Hello, I was going to say that if you wanted to see, | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
-it's best to come round the front. -That's fine. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
We wanted to have a look at where the vehicles | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
came in and out as well, you see. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
And here we have it. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:32 | |
To some extent with retrospectives they are quite good, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
-because you can see it. -Yes! | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
So we can go up and actually stand in the shade of the building. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:41 | |
And not get rained on. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:42 | |
Really the issue in terms of the local community here, really, | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
was use and commercial use. I think that's the issue. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
It's coming in and out on to quite a narrow lane | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
if there is commercial use here. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
It's disgraceful the amount of people that obviously have got | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
far too much time on their hands, to actually come round | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
and have a look at somebody's garden. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
All done then? Thank you very much. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
Councillors don't receive a salary, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
they're local people who represent their community | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
and have the power to act on their behalf. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
I think it was useful to see that. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
You've actually got to go in and sense it | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
and actually get the 360 degree view of it all. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:26 | |
Because it's affecting people's lives. At the end of the day | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
this person is going to, might have to have his shed knocked down. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
We want to get out and feel the atmosphere! | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
Ian prefers to let his hands do the talking, | 0:31:38 | 0:31:42 | |
so at the planning committee Sarah is going to make the speech. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
I want to sort of like personalise it a bit, make you look human! | 0:31:46 | 0:31:51 | |
All right, best of luck. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
THEY CHUCKLE | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
I mean, the thing is, you've only got three minutes so... | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
I daresay there will be somebody there with a clapperboard | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
stopping me as soon as I start. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
The planning officers have reached their decision, | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
but the fate of Ian's shed rests with the planning committee. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
Our recommendation will be for approval, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
we can't see any reason why it should be refused | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
but it's just as easy for the members | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
to take a different view of it and come to the other conclusion, | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
that it's wrong and that they want to refuse it. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
In Rochdale, Shia Muslims want to extend their community centre. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
The build will cost £250,000 | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
and the community are at full stretch to fund | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
a no-frills development. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
As a community we will put the money together | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
to pay for the building work. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:54 | |
One of the main pillars, if you like, of Islam is to pay | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
this portion of your earnings towards the community. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
There are so many ladies that say if you don't have any money... | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
If you go through with this, we will offer you our jewellery. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
But the planners are recommending refusal. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
Rebecca Coley is objecting to the building's unimaginative design. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:18 | |
She never switches off, really. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
She'll always spot something which | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
she wouldn't have given planning permission for. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
That's true, yes. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:26 | |
In fact she could give you a tour probably and point them out. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
But stopping development can make planners unpopular. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
You are often dealing with people's hopes and dreams. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:38 | |
They've invested a lot in drawing up the plans. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
And then to come up against someone who's saying, | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
"No," it can be very hard for people, and understandably so. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
The community lobbied their ward councillor | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
to get the decision taken out of the hands | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
of Rebecca's planning team and before the elected councillors. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
Now the councillors are on a visit to the site. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
Wow. Wow, I didn't know it was going to be that large. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:12 | |
This is the elevation that is going to be completely blank, | 0:34:12 | 0:34:17 | |
-all the way down to there. -It is quite big. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
-You are right about the parking space. -Too few. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
It needs more than three. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
I was surprised how big the development was, | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
you know, when I came to look at it. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
When Rebecca got the drawings out, I didn't know it was that big. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
That's the idea of a site visit, | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
so we come along and we're not just going cold at it, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
we've got a feeling of what's going on. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
The planning committee members represent a cross section | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
of the community, from a retired fire officer to a restaurateur. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:48 | |
Their vote will decide the building's fate. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
I hope the councillors understand our needs | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
and hopefully we will get the planning permission for this. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
Fingers crossed, yeah. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
Pray to God. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
In Tattenhall, Cheshire, the planning committee are considering | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
four applications to build housing estates. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
Three are on green fields and one is on a brownfield site. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:25 | |
Never known anything like it... | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
-Most unusual. -..in 17 years of being on the planning committee. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:31 | |
The big national house builders want to build | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
350 new homes on green fields. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
Individually they are probably not a problem, | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
but I'm unsure about them coming together. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
The committee members represent their voting constituents, | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
so the impact on the community is at the forefront of their minds. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
-So that's the application site. -How many houses? | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
They are saying in the order of 137. | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
That's the proposed layout. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
Have we heard from the people living here and people up there? | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
-Yes. -Right. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
-The general the response has been highly negative. -OK. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
The villagers have formed action groups to save their green fields. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:18 | |
It's a small insignificant little field | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
-but it means a lot to the neighbours here. -70 houses they wish to build. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:25 | |
Instead of building on these fields, they'd rather have houses | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
on the land owned by Amanda and Robin Blackham. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
It's on a disused brownfield site a mile away, | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
so it's not in anyone's backyard. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
It's a brownfield site, yeah, develop it. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
What he's suggesting, it's not a massive development, | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
it will be an improvement to what we've got now. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
I think the general feeling in the village is that | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
it is an acceptable development for a site that frankly | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
for a number of years now has been an eyesore. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
The planning committee must decide if they agree with residents | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
or if they think that the Blackhams' planning application | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
should be refused again. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
It has twice been through a public enquiry | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
and has been quite thoroughly investigated previously. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
The key issue was the issue of sustainability. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
Obviously it provides a footpath and cycleway link | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
from here back into Tattenhall. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
-OK, thanks very much. -That's the key change between | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
what you've seen before and what's been through appeal before | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
-and what you have before you today. -Right, thank you. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
Some of the councillors on this planning committee | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
are the same members who refused the Blackhams' previous applications. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
Very interesting. It has been to planning before and it was refused. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
It's not sustainable, with any local shops or anything, is it? | 0:37:45 | 0:37:50 | |
Yes. But we'll have to see. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
Yes, I can't comment any further. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
The planning committee meeting will decide which, | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
if any, of the four schemes should get planning permission. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
Fiona Edwards and her team are under pressure to approve | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
5,000 new homes over five years, so she is recommending approval | 0:38:09 | 0:38:14 | |
for all of these controversial applications. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
We're in uncharted waters and we're recommending approval | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
for all of these schemes and, I guess, the man in the street, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
quite rightly, would think we are crazy and why are we doing it? | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
Your gut feeling is that's too many | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
dwellings in a settlement of this size at one go. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
But there's nothing in planning policy terms | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
that says that we can refuse this. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
Tattenhall ward councillor and full-time council leader Mike Jones | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
fiercely opposes Fiona's recommendation. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
And at a planning committee meeting | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
he can raise his objections on behalf of his constituents. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
It's beyond common sense. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
These developers have not established that need for | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
these number of houses in Tattenhall. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
There is a lot of fear in there, a lot of people are very frightened | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
about the impact these houses are going to have on the village. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
I think it is really quite sad that a community should be | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
subjected to such intense attack by developers. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
These greenfield sites are going through | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
the same time as ours, and this is our fear that Mike Jones | 0:39:18 | 0:39:22 | |
is going to put it all in to one basket | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
and say none of them should be passed. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
We should be very excited but we just can't say that we'll get it. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:34 | |
In Gloucestershire, Stroud Planning Committee | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
will decide whether Ian and Sarah Ruther must demolish the shed | 0:39:45 | 0:39:49 | |
that he built to house his beloved Unimog truck. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
-Not quite sure which way it's going to go. -Fingers crossed. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
Yes, could do with it over really, so as we know. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
It would be nice to be finished and just move along. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
-Yeah, some closure on it really. -Yes. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
I've even typed up a few notes, | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
just a few spot things that I want to say. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
I thought I should come all suited and booted | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
and show that I mean business, | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
I'm not going to sit back and be quiet. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
Neighbours think Ian wants to use the shed to run a business. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
Looking at the actual plans themselves, | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
it is 11 metres long, I understand, by 4 metres high. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
By the size of the plant and machinery which is clearly | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
on the site already, | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
the site is more being used as a commercial site. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:42 | |
In no way is it residential. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
We would request that the council refuse the application | 0:40:44 | 0:40:49 | |
for retrospective consent. Thank you. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
Now it's time for Sarah to persuade the members to vote to approve. | 0:40:55 | 0:41:00 | |
My husband has a fascination for plant, for tractors, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:08 | |
and that is the reason why we bought the property | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
because of the large ground that it had with it, so that he could house | 0:41:11 | 0:41:15 | |
the rather large Tonka toys that he likes to play with. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:20 | |
A MAN CHUCKLES | 0:41:20 | 0:41:21 | |
With regard to actually having a business, | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
Ian has very little time to actually carry out business. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:29 | |
One thing I would like to say is that every day, as people, | 0:41:29 | 0:41:33 | |
we fight for the rights to do whatever we want to do, | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
whether it be religion or whether it be our sexual orientation | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
and today I would like to fight for my husband's right | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
to play in his own garden. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
Thank you. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
After hearing from the applicant and the objectors, | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
the councillors vote on the future of the Unimog shed. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
Would somebody like to make a proposal, please? | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
We are being more and more cut down on what we can | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
and can't do in this country, so I will be supporting this. Thank you. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:06 | |
The site may not be to everyone's taste | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
in terms of the materials and that around the site | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
but there is certainly a very good and robust fence | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
all the way around the site so it obscures the view of it | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
from the public road. So I'll be supporting approval. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
So we move to the vote. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
All those in favour please show. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
-That is everyone. -That is unanimous, thank you. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
For the avoidance of doubt, this application has been approved | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
and we move to the next item. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
I feel quite emotional actually because I can't believe that | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
so many people actually... | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
-I didn't expect unanimous, I'll be honest with you. -No, I didn't. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
Just because whatever he is doing is rather large and cumbersome, | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
it is a hobby, and if he works blinking hard | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
and wants to do something in his spare time, why not? | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
I'm not impressed. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
Yes. We objected, lots of neighbours objected. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
The whole thing is objectionable. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
Very little weight was given to anybody's opinion really. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
-Thankfully... -Expensive. -..it's all over. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 | |
-You're just going to have to find the time to play now. -Yes! | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
Finish it. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
In Cheltenham, homeowner Stuart has replaced a garden hedge | 0:43:27 | 0:43:31 | |
with a two-foot fence. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
But neighbour John Newbury has a big problem | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
with even a small fence on the open plan estate. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
He tipped off the planning enforcement team | 0:43:41 | 0:43:44 | |
and Stuart has had to spend £150 | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
on a retrospective planning application. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
Planning Officer Martin Chandler from Cheltenham Borough Council | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
is going to see the disputed fence for himself. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:58 | |
When we are dealing with retrospective applications | 0:44:01 | 0:44:03 | |
there is always a bit of contention, | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
and I am not surprised in this instance | 0:44:06 | 0:44:08 | |
you have got a strong objection based on the fact that | 0:44:08 | 0:44:12 | |
it's an open plan estate and I am sure the gentleman likes living on | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
an open plan estate and he wants to sort of protect it where possible. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
It's quite a low key addition to the street. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:24 | |
When we are looking at any proposal it's all about, | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
does it complement and respect the surroundings? | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
In the UK around 90% of all planning applications | 0:44:30 | 0:44:35 | |
are decided by planning officers and now it's up to Martin | 0:44:35 | 0:44:38 | |
to settle this dispute. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
-Mr Newbury. -What's going on? | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
I'm from the planning department, | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
one of the officers at the council, I am aware of your objection. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:51 | |
I thought whilst I am in the area, | 0:44:51 | 0:44:53 | |
I might come and have a chat to you about it. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
-Hiya, I'm Martin Chandler. -Nice to meet you. | 0:44:56 | 0:45:01 | |
This is an interesting sofa. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:03 | |
I have just been to have a look at the fence | 0:45:04 | 0:45:07 | |
and I appreciate your objection because of the open plan issue. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:12 | |
Having seen the fence I really can't see a refusal | 0:45:12 | 0:45:17 | |
of planning permission being an option. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
But this piece of paper from Tewksbury Borough Council | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
produced in September 1978 says, "No private garages, | 0:45:23 | 0:45:27 | |
"extensions, sheds, fences or other means of enclosure | 0:45:27 | 0:45:30 | |
"are permitted as part..." | 0:45:30 | 0:45:32 | |
No, it means that they need planning permission, | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
doesn't mean that they won't be permitted, | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
but it means that they need planning permission. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:38 | |
"..other than those admitted, can be erected or constructed | 0:45:40 | 0:45:45 | |
"without the prior permission of the local authority." | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
If we were to refuse planning permission for that fence | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
and we were to go to an appeal, | 0:45:51 | 0:45:53 | |
there is no chance that that appeal would be defended. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:57 | |
So... I think you have got the wrong attitude. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:03 | |
Someone is going to say, "Oh, look, there's a picket fence there, | 0:46:03 | 0:46:06 | |
"and therefore we'll build a wall." Is that permitted? | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
No, it would need planning permission. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
So effectively, it's all sort of, | 0:46:12 | 0:46:14 | |
you are actually taking away the open plan nature of the estate. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:19 | |
Of course, it is going to change with every development, isn't it? | 0:46:21 | 0:46:25 | |
Therefore the development should be refused. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:27 | |
No, because change is not necessarily harmful. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:29 | |
Yes, it's an open plan estate, does the fence cause harm to that? | 0:46:29 | 0:46:35 | |
I don't think it does, it's a low fence. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:37 | |
It doesn't matter, it's a fence! | 0:46:37 | 0:46:39 | |
I don't think this authority would want to refuse planning permission for it. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:46 | |
I appreciate that you don't agree with the decision. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:50 | |
It was nice to meet you. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
Always nice to have a debate on the issues. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:59 | |
He's thinking of sort of ways out. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:09 | |
He wants to actually minimise the amount of money he spends. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:13 | |
Effectively, if this chap goes to appeal, as he says, | 0:47:13 | 0:47:16 | |
it's going to cost the council money. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
It was quite clear having been to the site, | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
having seen the context that the fence is not harmful at all, | 0:47:24 | 0:47:29 | |
so to refuse it would be a nonsense really. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:31 | |
So, yeah, we will be recommending approval for this one. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
As far as I'm concerned, it's a victory for common sense. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:42 | |
One of the objections was that it closed off the garden space | 0:47:42 | 0:47:46 | |
and put people off from seeing floral displays | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
and quirky gnomes, so I bought a quirky gnome. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
He's got pride of place right by the front door. Just there. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:57 | |
In Rochdale, there is a stand off | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
between planning officer Rebecca Coley | 0:48:12 | 0:48:14 | |
and Shia Muslims who want to extend their community centre. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:18 | |
Tonight the planning committee meets, | 0:48:20 | 0:48:23 | |
but will members back Rebecca's recommendation to refuse? | 0:48:23 | 0:48:27 | |
Application for a two-storey | 0:48:29 | 0:48:30 | |
and three-storey rear extension at Mustafa Islamic Community Centre. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:34 | |
Can we have the applicant, please? | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
Our centre provides a very valuable service to our community. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:42 | |
Raza Hussain, a teacher at the centre, | 0:48:42 | 0:48:45 | |
has his chance to convince members to approve the scheme. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:49 | |
I am personally involved with the Sunday classes, | 0:48:49 | 0:48:52 | |
which is preventing violent extremism | 0:48:52 | 0:48:54 | |
so not only do we serve our own Muslim community, | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
we are serving the Rochdale community at large as well. | 0:48:57 | 0:49:01 | |
The truth of the matter is, we are a minority Islamic group... | 0:49:01 | 0:49:05 | |
Theirs is the only centre for Shia Muslims in Rochdale, | 0:49:05 | 0:49:08 | |
but Rebecca wants the committee to understand | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
her reasons for recommending refusal. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
The car parking requirement for that amount of floor space is 115 spaces. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:19 | |
They are providing three. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
The site could be sold on to | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
somebody who does occupy it more intensively. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
Have you ever had any parking issue or an accident around your centre? | 0:49:27 | 0:49:33 | |
There's been no conflict, no issues. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:37 | |
There have been certainly no casualties or accidents. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
We have good relationships with neighbours, in fact. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
I would like to recommend permission to be granted | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
on the basis of information we have received. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
One councillor wants to cut the debate short | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
and push for a vote in favour of the community's extension plans, | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
dismissing Rebecca's parking concerns. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
And I feel that we should grant permission. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:02 | |
Can I second that, please? Can we go for a vote? | 0:50:02 | 0:50:05 | |
I understand from the officer that they have been in negotiations, and | 0:50:05 | 0:50:09 | |
they refused your recommendations on the modifications. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:12 | |
I would like to know what those are before I vote yes or no on this one. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:17 | |
I think we will go to a vote. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:18 | |
Chair of the planning committee, Councillor Begum | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
is also keen for members to reach a decision. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
It is getting very late, we have to finish in five minutes. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:27 | |
We don't want to defer anything else. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:28 | |
What were you saying? Just quickly, please. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:32 | |
Yes. There are two reasons for refusal. If you are recommending it | 0:50:32 | 0:50:36 | |
for approval, you do need to make some reference to the design reason. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:40 | |
And that you think the design is acceptable if that is the case? | 0:50:40 | 0:50:44 | |
It's not going to increase number of users, | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
it is going to offer modern facilities, | 0:50:46 | 0:50:49 | |
especially disabled access. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:51 | |
If we are sitting here making important decisions, | 0:50:51 | 0:50:53 | |
to grant permission rather than refuse it, | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
-it is important that we discuss it. -It's already been seconded. | 0:50:56 | 0:51:00 | |
I want to understand the design reasons | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
why officers are saying that we should refuse that. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:07 | |
At the moment I cannot make a decision. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:09 | |
-Excuse me, am I chairing this meeting? -Yes. -Thank you. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:13 | |
-Can we just vote quickly, please? -I can't vote! | 0:51:13 | 0:51:16 | |
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:19 | |
Thank you, so that vote is carried and it's approved. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:23 | |
-Thank you. -APPLAUSE | 0:51:23 | 0:51:26 | |
In the final moments of the committee meeting, | 0:51:27 | 0:51:30 | |
the majority of the local councillors | 0:51:30 | 0:51:32 | |
decide to disregard Rebecca's planning recommendation. | 0:51:32 | 0:51:35 | |
In many cases members make decisions politically, | 0:51:36 | 0:51:40 | |
they are elected to serve a community | 0:51:40 | 0:51:42 | |
and they want to be re-elected. | 0:51:42 | 0:51:44 | |
But that is politics. | 0:51:46 | 0:51:48 | |
I also think that members really felt that for this particular | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
community having these facilities would be very important. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:56 | |
I think the decision was right. | 0:51:56 | 0:51:58 | |
Speechless, we are so happy now. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
We are making decisions which are affecting people's lives | 0:52:01 | 0:52:04 | |
and it's important that we get it right | 0:52:04 | 0:52:06 | |
and sometimes we don't get it right, | 0:52:06 | 0:52:07 | |
but more often than not people go away knowing that | 0:52:07 | 0:52:11 | |
we've done our best and that's what we have been elected to do. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:14 | |
A planning officer can make their recommendation, | 0:52:22 | 0:52:25 | |
write their report, but they do not always have the final say. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:29 | |
The general public look at a building | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
and if they don't like it they will blame the planners. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:37 | |
I don't think that they consider for a moment | 0:52:37 | 0:52:39 | |
that the decision might not have been what the planners wanted. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:43 | |
We are trying to improve the environment as a whole | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
and we don't feel this kind of scheme does that | 0:52:46 | 0:52:51 | |
and it will be there for as long as it's there, | 0:52:51 | 0:52:54 | |
and that could be more than 100 years. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:58 | |
After a five-year battle, today Robin and Amanda Blackham | 0:53:09 | 0:53:13 | |
will find out if they've got planning permission | 0:53:13 | 0:53:16 | |
to build 31 houses on their brownfield development site. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
What will be will be, what we have done so far | 0:53:21 | 0:53:24 | |
is the best we can do. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:25 | |
If the Blackhams don't get permission today, | 0:53:25 | 0:53:28 | |
they'll lose hundreds of thousands and may have to sell their home | 0:53:28 | 0:53:32 | |
It's the end game, we shall see what happens today. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:38 | |
The planning department supports their application, | 0:53:41 | 0:53:44 | |
but the elected councillors will decide | 0:53:44 | 0:53:46 | |
if they can have permission to proceed. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:48 | |
The committee also has to decide on | 0:53:50 | 0:53:52 | |
three other housing estate applications in the village. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:55 | |
It's a big day for the residents of Tattenhall. | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
Nervous, yes, anxious, | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
worried about our fields and our village. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:06 | |
But we're hoping people power will prevail, and common sense. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:11 | |
Tonight is going to be... | 0:54:13 | 0:54:16 | |
heated I think is a good word | 0:54:16 | 0:54:18 | |
because obviously we're recommending approval on all the applications | 0:54:18 | 0:54:21 | |
we have got in Tattenhall and | 0:54:21 | 0:54:23 | |
clearly those recommendations affect an awful lot of local people. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
The first application is the Blackhams scheme... | 0:54:30 | 0:54:34 | |
Councillor Jones. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:35 | |
..and their main adversary, Council Leader Mike Jones, takes the floor. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:40 | |
Thank you, Chairman. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:44 | |
As you are aware, I have spoken strongly for refusal | 0:54:44 | 0:54:47 | |
on two counts in the past due to a lack of sustainability | 0:54:47 | 0:54:49 | |
and the lack of... | 0:54:49 | 0:54:50 | |
The Blackhams can only listen as councillor Jones goes over | 0:54:50 | 0:54:53 | |
familiar territory. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:55 | |
The refusal has been supported after two separate planning enquiries | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
by two separate planning inspectors. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:00 | |
Albeit I have publicly said that with the right type of development, | 0:55:00 | 0:55:04 | |
I would support development on this site. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
But then councillor Jones changes his theme. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:10 | |
I think that the provision of a footpath will massively improve | 0:55:10 | 0:55:13 | |
the safety of the route for pedestrians | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
and I am sure will be well used. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
I am satisfied that with this application being a full application, | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
it's on a brownfield site, | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
and includes the planning gain of a significant community investment of a footpath, | 0:55:24 | 0:55:27 | |
it is a rational decision to grant permission for this application, | 0:55:27 | 0:55:31 | |
satisfying the previous concerns that I've had. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:33 | |
I request members to agree permission for this application. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:36 | |
Thank you, Chair. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:38 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
After opposing the scheme for years, | 0:55:42 | 0:55:44 | |
Councillor Jones has spoken in favour of the Blackhams' development. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:48 | |
Will the committee members now agree with him? | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
It's a brownfield site, it's an improvement to the area. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
It is well laid out, there's a new footpath link. | 0:55:55 | 0:55:58 | |
Highways are happy. I am very happy to support this. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:02 | |
In that case we will move to the vote. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:04 | |
Those in favour of the recommendation, please show. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:08 | |
Thank you very much, that was passed unanimously. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:56:18 | 0:56:21 | |
At the end of a five-year battle, | 0:56:23 | 0:56:25 | |
the Blackhams have finally got their planning permission. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:29 | |
The committee now need to decide whether they should also allow | 0:56:31 | 0:56:35 | |
the other developers to build on Tattenhall's green fields. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:39 | |
It is basically surrounding Tattenhall with | 0:56:39 | 0:56:41 | |
one great big housing estate. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:43 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:56:43 | 0:56:45 | |
It appears to be almost like a bloody free for all. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:47 | |
It's wrong and I can't support this. | 0:56:47 | 0:56:51 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
All those in favour of the refusal, please show. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:59 | |
The refusal is carried so the application is refused. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:02 | |
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING | 0:57:02 | 0:57:04 | |
Committee members have turned down permission | 0:57:06 | 0:57:09 | |
for all the other applications in the village. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:12 | |
And the Blackhams have the outcome they so desperately needed. | 0:57:13 | 0:57:16 | |
You could clearly see the applicant was delighted. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:22 | |
Mrs B has been absolutely fantastic. | 0:57:22 | 0:57:25 | |
He persevered and he's got the positive outcome that he needs. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:29 | |
We couldn't believe it until we saw the show of hands, | 0:57:29 | 0:57:32 | |
which was amazing. | 0:57:32 | 0:57:34 | |
It was an absolutely beautiful victory. | 0:57:34 | 0:57:37 | |
Next time... | 0:57:38 | 0:57:40 | |
in Chester, the planning committee and the architect | 0:57:40 | 0:57:43 | |
aren't quite on the same page... | 0:57:43 | 0:57:46 | |
Whoever designed that needs to be shot. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:50 | |
It is a complete mess. | 0:57:50 | 0:57:53 | |
..the enforcement officer deals with what seemed like a good idea | 0:57:53 | 0:57:56 | |
after a night at the pub. | 0:57:56 | 0:57:59 | |
I'm quite surprised, the lines are quite straight. | 0:57:59 | 0:58:01 | |
I'm not sure I could paint lines quite that straight | 0:58:01 | 0:58:05 | |
And the new girl on Stroud's planning committee cuts her teeth | 0:58:05 | 0:58:08 | |
helping to decide the fate of a 13th-century mansion. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:12 | |
I was up at five o'clock this morning swotting it up | 0:58:12 | 0:58:16 | |
because we have got the planning Bible, if I can reach it. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:20 | |
I can't reach it because I'm too fat. | 0:58:20 | 0:58:22 | |
What do you want to do? | 0:58:22 | 0:58:24 | |
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