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London is full up...

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CAR HORNS

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Are you going to allow them to jump on the back of your bus?

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I'm afraid I won't be able to take any more passengers.

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..thanks to a million more people arriving in the last ten years.

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Transport for London now has more than 30,000 workers battling

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day and night...

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WHISTLES Wake up!

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..to stop the city grinding to a halt.

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-Two people have been shot up there.

-War. It's war!

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I'll get the police and ambulance straight down there.

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The first week I was here, I thought, what have I done?

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With unique access to the nerve centre of the capital's transport

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system, this is the inside story of the people who keep London moving.

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You're not only a bus driver. You become a psychotherapist and psychiatrist.

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The people that like to talk to you, some of them even flirt with you.

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I said, "Sit down quietly.

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"We're not going to Hell, we're going to Ilford!"

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It's the lifeblood of London. The buses are red, aren't they?

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LAUGHS

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Here's my certificate. Look, I'm a bus driver!

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LAUGHTER

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-Thank you very much. You are so nice.

-Don't worry. No problem at all.

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London's changed a lot, but yeah, I love it. It's London.

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That's us. She wants to talk to me. Fleet Aurora.

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The time is now 7am, if you can open the ticket office, please?

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Hold on tight!

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Every working day in London,

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there are now six million bus journeys,

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half a million cycle trips, 8,500 boat rides,

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23,000 cabbies looking for fares, 250,000 lorry deliveries,

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and above all, ten million car journeys.

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I'm quite an accepting person, but I didn't realise how bad it would be.

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No, there's not a lot of margin for error in the city.

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It is the largest human migration in the country.

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And it's going to get bigger.

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This bus is racing me, look.

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We're in London. I'm going to hurry, am I?

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Get real, people!

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London's population is growing faster than anyone predicted,

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with one million more people expected to be

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living in the capital in the next ten years.

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But the roads are already at capacity.

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Yeah, Transport 8602, running from the A406, north west, over.

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-'Yeah, received. Thank you.'

-Punch it, Chewie!

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LAUGHS

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It's on a knife edge.

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It takes one little thing and it all just breaks down.

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Because of this surge in numbers, Transport for London now pays

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the Metropolitan Police, not to fight crime, but to fight traffic.

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There's another crash just down here.

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I think we've become less obedient road users.

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Everyone's got so much pressure on them and there is so much traffic.

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We can't cope with it. Look at animal behaviour in zoos.

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With our behaviour getting worse,

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the roads police unit now deal with collisions every day.

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They are the capital's largest cause of congestion,

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but they aren't usually high-speed pile-ups.

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Most of London's collisions now happen in the slowest moving

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rush hour traffic.

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OK. Fantastic. All right. Bye.

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-London's street traffic control centre watches over the roads.

-OK.

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-What you got?

-RTC, car versus HGV.

-Lovely.

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Sam Abbott despatches officers to the incidents affecting the network.

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Joy(!) Oh, joy(!)

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You can never change how people handle themselves on the road.

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They're always going to do their own thing.

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And you get some people who are very obedient

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and some people...who are just not.

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And...there it is.

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Look, because everyone's in such a hurry,

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they're driving up the kerb to get round the obstruction.

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What's happened?

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Just cut in on me. That's what they do. They come down here.

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Rather than waiting in the queue to get off the A13, the driver of

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a hatchback has tried to cut in at the front, hitting a recovery truck.

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So this is what happens.

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You'll find that people will sneakily get into lane two

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and cut to try and get in. We all do it from time to time.

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I'm not going to lie! You shouldn't. Absolutely not.

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Sergeant Chas Harris is questioning the driver of the car.

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I wasn't there. I don't know precisely who moved where.

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But he was in the right lane and you were trying to get in it.

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He was in the right lane.

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-You can't stop them, can you? All day long.

-In a hurry.

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All day long, mate.

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-Why are they doing it?

-Everyone's in a hurry. No-one wants to wait.

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Everyone wants to get to the front of the queue and they have literally

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driven past a long queue straight to the front

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and tried to push their way in.

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The point of it is that you shouldn't have been there.

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I understand that. Yeah.

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-Are you in a rush?

-I am! Yes!

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But no-one is going anywhere.

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In just a few minutes, the driver's actions have brought the rush hour

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traffic to a standstill.

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Now, this is not good.

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They're taking out a lane. That is not normal for the time of day.

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And it's because of my accident that I've got.

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And it's increasing, as you can see.

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Obviously, just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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It does have a big impact.

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We now have traffic that's tailing back all the way to the

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Blackwall Tunnel. The message is to all drivers to avoid the route.

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Expect delays!

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All three lanes are now open, over.

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On the other side of the city,

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another accident in slow moving traffic is causing serious delays.

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I think you have got to be crackers to live and commute into London.

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Good morning, lemmings!

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All Sergeant Jerry Hillman can do is keep an eye on the motorists

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stuck in the tailback.

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I do pity them.

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The road's been clear about ten minutes now.

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No injuries, fortunately.

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Sam Abbott is also watching Jerry's queues on the A40.

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This is the A40 incident. Oh, no! It's not good.

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Currently, the tailback's probably about three miles...bordering

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four miles.

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-Hello there.

-Do you happen to know how far this goes?

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Up to the Polish war memorial.

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CAR HORN Pack it in!

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It's about a mile and a half up the road.

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It's now clear, but it's going to take some time to alleviate.

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Thank you.

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Get some patience!

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Available in shops now!

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People do get very fractious. Understandably.

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But if something stops them, even by a few seconds,

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they will then take umbrage about it, out of all proportion.

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Saving people from themselves.

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If this keeps tailing back,

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it's going to start clogging Hanger Lane up.

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And then of course, the North Circular goes.

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And that could take some considerable time to clear.

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So I'll go and have a look.

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If it gets back to Hanger Lane, it will be severe.

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And severe is our highest priority.

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That's when you get a big old red blob.

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SIREN

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I liken it to a stroke, basically.

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You get one incident on one road and it will block up really,

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really quickly.

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But then, it will block up to a junction with another road,

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which will then block up, and the whole thing will spread.

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It's going up to severe anyway. Guys, I've put it up to severe.

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Bonkers is normal. Welcome to London!

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LAUGHS

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But this is not how it was supposed to be.

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'London, the greatest city the world has ever known.'

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This is a great opportunity to improve traffic conditions.

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And we must give them all the help we can.

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After the war, Professor Patrick Abercrombie set forth a grand

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vision of how London's roads would be rebuilt for the benefit of all.

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Our plan is an idea, a plan for something that is living,

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something that is growing.

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The dream was that in the future, everyone would own a car

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and that grand highways would transport us from place to place.

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It's a pretty gigantic scheme,

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affecting the future of the whole of London.

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And I tell you what, there mustn't be any overcrowding.

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London's arterial roads were built and the city streets were

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transformed into the modern road network that millions attempt

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to use today.

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But Abercrombie's dream has become a nightmare.

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Faced with this growing demand for our roads,

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the city needs a radical solution.

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It's up to one woman to come up with an answer.

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We've got a plan.

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Michele Dix is managing director of planning at Transport for London.

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The level of growth that we're going to see in London over

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the next 20 years is phenomenal.

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It's the equivalent of two Birminghams coming into London.

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That many more people, two million more people plonked down,

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all these people competing for space.

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Something's got to give.

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Mega. It's a huge challenge.

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If Michele is to keep London moving for the coming years, she needs

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to convince us that changing how we use the roads is urgently required.

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First on the agenda is the car.

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Car isn't king any more.

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We want to encourage those that don't need to use the car to use

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public transport, walk or cycle.

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That's what we want to do and the more of that we can do, the better.

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If we all owned a car, the whole place would be stuffed up, so we can't all own a car and use a car.

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You can own a car, but not use it at the same time

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and you certainly can't all use it just to go to work at the same time.

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But getting us out of our cars won't be easy.

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How to get people out of cars? I don't know whether you can.

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People are addicted to their car.

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People put so much faith into their car.

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You're master of your own destiny.

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Yes, it's like anything, it's a challenge.

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It's problem solving, isn't it?

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They're not going to change just because you want them to.

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With millions of people arriving soon and the future of London

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at stake, Michele has a radical approach to solving the problem.

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You do need to work out what buttons you have to push in people's heads.

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So if you wanted to go from A to B by car and we want them to use public

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transport, one way of making it more difficult is making it harder

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to park at the other end.

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You have to understand people's behaviour, people's psychology.

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It's a case of looking at carrots and sticks.

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Not necessarily big sticks, but you can't just have carrots.

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Transport for London's biggest stick of all is CCTV enforcement.

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5,000 cameras are manned by over 50 CCTV operators 24 hours a day

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and issue fines to motorists directly.

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Well, why not?

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I'd be very surprised if there's another city in the world that

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gives out as many penalty charge notices as we do.

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I don't think there is. It's like Spock said,

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the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

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It's the evening rush hour and thousands of motorists

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are trying to get home along East India Dock Road.

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To ensure the roads don't become blocked,

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each driver caught stopping in the middle of the junction

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for more than five seconds is fined £130.

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During the rush hour, it is

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Transport for London's busiest yellow box junction.

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Oh, no! No! I didn't! Oh, my God! You're joking!

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It's ridiculous. They've got to do something about it.

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Just hoping and praying the camera's not working.

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So I don't get a fine!

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They know they're blocking it.

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Give them five seconds, zoom in, you take their plate, zoom out, you

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get more evidence, and then you put the details through and process it.

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It's like Space Invaders.

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You're trying to catch these things that are moving away from you and

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panning and tilting and moving the camera, chasing them down the road.

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This camera alone issues penalties worth £20,000 every week.

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Is he going to get out of the way? He's thinking about it. Not sure.

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I think he's from France. Let's have a look. Is he from France?

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-What do you think of the traffic?

-Uh...difficult!

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Difficult!

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'Yeah, France.

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'Bloody French, yeah.'

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So you see a little bit of space and you go for it.

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OK, so it's getting busy now. You're far more likely to take a risk if you've been in traffic,

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slowish moving traffic, all day and you want to get somewhere.

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You're going to take that risk, going to chance it. Desperation.

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The A4 has gone down to moderate.

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All right.

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In the fastest growing part of London,

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the drivers aren't just blocking junctions,

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they're finding even more extreme ways to escape the traffic.

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There's nothing to it.

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It's quite easy for them to take the option of cutting onto that

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little bit of dirt and you understand why they do it.

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Sergeant Chas Harris has been despatched to lie in wait

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and catch the rule breakers.

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Can't see the blue light over the hedge, can they?

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No, I wouldn't have thought so. We'll be too low.

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There's a nice blind spot.

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Catch them out while they're doing it.

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Let's give it a couple of minutes and see what happens.

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The council got the bollards put in, but obviously, the resourcefulness

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of the motoring public has managed to find a gap between them.

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The missus and I saw a shooting star last night.

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About 150-200m to the roundabout.

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They save about four minutes and four minutes, as we all know,

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in traffic time, is forever, isn't it?

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In normal time, it's nothing.

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But in traffic time, you know, you might as well read War And Peace.

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Hello! Hello-hello-hello.

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You're the first today. But we've only just got here.

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I think they're sneaky.

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I think they know.

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-Hello, sir.

-Officer.

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The reason I've just stopped you is you've just driven across a verge.

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It's not the road, is it?

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The fine for using the cut-through is £30.

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If you stay over there, you can stay half an hour here.

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You can check my record. I don't have a criminal record.

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-I don't doubt that.

-It's my mistake.

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Life finds a way, doesn't it? It's like weeds.

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They'll find a way to grow anywhere.

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Very sorry. Never going to happen again.

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Traffic is traffic. You have to wait.

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I would never ever go there again.

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-You didn't wait.

-You didn't wait, we pay for that.

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Right.

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The law empowers me

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to take a picture of you as well for identification purposes.

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He's pleading his case. He's getting very animated.

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My wife is pregnant with a kid there.

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It's an absolute nightmare, this road. An absolute nightmare.

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But the thing is though, they come down here and...

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Look, there's another one, look.

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There's a man in a white van.

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If you don't do that...

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If you don't do that, you could be taken to court for the matter.

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All right?

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I'll pay 30 quid.

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Unlucky!

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I think people are more inclined now to see if they can nick a bit,

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if there's a way round something

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and they don't always think of the consequences.

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Honest answer, everyone is frustrated, stressed out.

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Added taxes, the boss, inflation. It all adds up.

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I'm not going to do that again in my life!

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Doesn't time fly when you're having fun?

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It's the pace of life, isn't it?

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The only way round it is forcing them not to use the roads in such numbers.

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I can't see any other stick and carrot will work, really.

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It's going to have to be a baseball bat approach, isn't it?

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Drivers are not the only ones who are breaking the rules

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to speed up their journeys.

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Cyclists? Oh, they're terrible.

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Well, not all of 'em.

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Yeah, all of 'em!

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They just go through red lights.

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The number of cyclists in London has trebled in the last ten years.

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That one there, I saw him there.

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You're totally surrounded by them. They're everywhere.

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Slows you down a bit, yeah.

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Faced with increasing traffic using the roads,

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Transport For London now wants cycle journeys to increase

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to two million every day.

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As many as use the Underground.

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Watching over this new tribe on London's roads is a specialist

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cycle task force.

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Good morning! Morning!

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Good morning!

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One way to get around!

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Today PCs Tony Austen and John Harrison are targeting

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Elephant And Castle roundabout in South London.

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a notorious spot for red light jumpers.

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It's good to see more people around cycling and keeping fit.

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I just wish that they adhered to the laws and stopped at red lights.

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But...as you can see...

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Oh, they have stopped.

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I was going to say they're not but they have stopped for once.

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Once one person does it at the front of the pack,

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others will be tempted to do it.

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You can punish people and hopefully change their behaviour.

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Stop!

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What happened there?

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I just find it easier to go through the lights when... It's just easier.

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Well, it may be easier, but the lights are there for a reason.

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Metro Lima receiving 607.

0:21:590:22:02

I think certain traffic lights are different, you know.

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If you're joining a busy road like that fairly quickly,

0:22:050:22:08

then I think it's safe to do so.

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But if you wait for that light to go green,

0:22:110:22:13

you've got an HGV behind you,

0:22:130:22:14

you've got 20 other cyclists, it just gets a bit messy.

0:22:140:22:18

So I find it... I think it's safer.

0:22:180:22:20

I know it's wrong and I can't really disagree with him, so...

0:22:200:22:24

And he's bigger than me, so...

0:22:240:22:27

I'm just going to have to pay my 30 quid, I think.

0:22:270:22:29

They're on a mission. They're on their way to work.

0:22:350:22:38

They're trying to beat their personal best time

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getting to work and traffic lights are an inconvenience,

0:22:410:22:44

and they're the people we need to target.

0:22:440:22:46

Pull in, please.

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You versus a car or van - who do you reckon will win?

0:23:000:23:02

Yeah?

0:23:030:23:05

-It's not going to be pretty, is it?

-No.

0:23:050:23:08

She didn't even look at the lights. Couldn't tell you what they were.

0:23:080:23:10

OK, it was my fault.

0:23:120:23:14

I know it was my fault, but, yeah, I'll be more careful.

0:23:140:23:17

I go on a red light very often, but I always have a look.

0:23:220:23:25

-To be fully honest...

-But the problem is, you shouldn't.

0:23:250:23:29

You should stop at a red light.

0:23:290:23:30

It's going to come quite expensive, isn't it?

0:23:300:23:32

There you go.

0:23:350:23:36

He's had fines already and he's still, in his own words,

0:23:380:23:41

he still jumps red lights.

0:23:410:23:43

So does enforcement work?

0:23:430:23:44

Most of the time, yes, but for people like him, when he said,

0:23:490:23:53

"I've had fines," probably not.

0:23:530:23:56

With a cycling revolution happening on the capital's streets,

0:24:010:24:05

Transport For London's traffic controllers must now also

0:24:050:24:08

contend with this new breed of road user.

0:24:080:24:11

We are expecting a cycling demo called Critical Mass,

0:24:120:24:16

and we don't really know much about it until it actually happens.

0:24:160:24:20

So we have to have all the cameras up.

0:24:200:24:24

When they do set off, they do

0:24:240:24:25

cause quite a bit of disruption to the network.

0:24:250:24:28

It's kind of like chasing a chicken round a...

0:24:280:24:31

you know, a back yard or something.

0:24:310:24:32

We never quite know where they're going to go.

0:24:320:24:34

DEMONSTRATORS SHOUT

0:24:340:24:37

Critical Masses! This is a special one today!

0:24:370:24:41

ALL CHEER

0:24:410:24:43

Hundreds of cycle activists are assembling on the South Bank

0:24:450:24:48

of the Thames, keen to show their strength

0:24:480:24:51

and bring the city to a standstill.

0:24:510:24:53

It's like one day a month where we get priority on the roads,

0:24:530:24:58

so it's a nice change.

0:24:580:24:59

Well, here we go then!

0:24:590:25:02

It's like a flock of birds.

0:25:020:25:04

Sometimes we're going along one road and then suddenly we just turn

0:25:040:25:08

and go up another road for no reason at all.

0:25:080:25:12

Oh, hang on. Oh!

0:25:140:25:16

There were go.

0:25:160:25:17

At 7pm, the cyclists enter the busy evening traffic.

0:25:170:25:21

Ali, they've started now.

0:25:210:25:23

CYCLE HORN TOOTS

0:25:230:25:25

We have two be on the ball at all times. Can't be blase about it.

0:25:270:25:31

It's not going to be fun if you're driving around London.

0:25:310:25:34

DEMONSTRATORS SHOUT

0:25:340:25:36

Critical Mass cycle rides?

0:25:360:25:38

Nah, they've got nothing else better to do!

0:25:380:25:41

Knob!

0:25:410:25:43

You can't please them all all of the time.

0:25:430:25:45

To help keep the city from gridlock, Andy must take control

0:25:460:25:50

of London's traffic lights and change them to ease the congestion.

0:25:500:25:54

As we follow the cyclists around, we try

0:25:540:25:56

and help the guys that have been stuck behind them.

0:25:560:25:59

So we'll give them an increased amount of green time.

0:25:590:26:02

It's one of the improvisational arts, I think.

0:26:040:26:06

CYCLE HORN TOOTS

0:26:060:26:08

It's not long before the cyclists start to antagonise the motorists.

0:26:080:26:12

Hurry up, come on!

0:26:120:26:14

It's mellow. People realise we're just taking it easy.

0:26:140:26:17

We're not trying to cause any harm.

0:26:170:26:19

Sometimes people get aggressive,

0:26:190:26:20

but then they realise they're just wrong.

0:26:200:26:23

WHISTLING AND SHOUTING

0:26:230:26:24

As the demonstration grows, more cyclists join in.

0:26:260:26:30

Gradually, the West End is brought to a standstill.

0:26:300:26:33

MUSIC POUNDS

0:26:330:26:35

I'm not going to go, am I?

0:26:380:26:40

They're taking a very roundabout route

0:26:420:26:45

and then turning down Regent Street.

0:26:450:26:48

It's just anarchy, innit, I suppose.

0:26:500:26:52

DEMONSTRATORS SHOUT

0:26:520:26:54

-It's like a revolution!

-A revolution?

-Yeah!

0:26:540:26:58

You can do what you like in London. It's brilliant!

0:26:580:27:02

-Where are you from?

-From the Isle of Wight.

0:27:020:27:05

But for Andy, keeping up with the cyclists on the cameras

0:27:120:27:15

is a challenge in itself.

0:27:150:27:16

This Critical Mass demo, your cab 7873,

0:27:160:27:21

do you know where they are now?

0:27:210:27:23

We've lost them again, basically. They might spring up somewhere.

0:27:230:27:29

I have to wait, innit? Nothing to do.

0:27:320:27:35

This is a very big mass this evening.

0:27:350:27:37

This is much bigger than they would normally be.

0:27:370:27:40

CAR HORN BLARES

0:27:400:27:41

Oi! There's police coming! What are you doing?

0:27:410:27:44

Calm down! Calm down!

0:27:440:27:46

I'm late for a funeral!

0:27:460:27:47

I'm so late for a funeral and I have to be there.

0:27:470:27:49

It finishes at ten and I'm trying to get there as soon as possible.

0:27:490:27:52

MUSIC POUNDS

0:27:520:27:54

Of course we're annoying people this evening,

0:27:540:27:57

because what we're doing is in some way selfish,

0:27:570:27:59

but then everyone is on the road being selfish.

0:27:590:28:02

ANDY: Ultimately, no-one wants to be told what to do. It's freedom.

0:28:060:28:10

After three hours causing havoc in the city,

0:28:120:28:14

the cyclists have dispersed.

0:28:140:28:17

Andy's shift is over.

0:28:180:28:19

Had I known that it would be like this, I'd have probably...

0:28:210:28:25

..tried to get the day off.

0:28:260:28:27

Whilst Transport For London's cameras

0:28:340:28:36

could only watch the cyclists, motorists aren't so lucky.

0:28:360:28:40

Last year in London almost five million penalty charges were issued

0:28:420:28:45

to motorists.

0:28:450:28:46

Combined with the Congestion Charge, London's streets

0:28:480:28:51

are now the most expensive to drive in the country.

0:28:510:28:53

Yeah, it's a Volkswagen Polo.

0:28:550:28:57

And if you don't pay your way, Transport For London will fine you.

0:28:570:29:02

This is the nerve centre.

0:29:060:29:07

This is inside the ANPR van,

0:29:070:29:09

the automatic numberplate recognition van.

0:29:090:29:12

It's got cameras front and rear.

0:29:120:29:14

If a registration flags up that is of interest to us,

0:29:140:29:18

the chaps down the road will pull it in

0:29:180:29:21

and investigate and see what we've got.

0:29:210:29:23

Yeah, we've got it stopped.

0:29:240:29:26

Right, who are the bailiffs?

0:29:280:29:31

This morning a team of bailiffs is working with police to catch

0:29:310:29:35

drivers who have unpaid Congestion Charges or parking fines.

0:29:350:29:39

We've got Brian the bailiff in tow.

0:29:410:29:43

The message is, if you're a bit naughty

0:29:430:29:45

and manage to get a fine it can work out very expensive.

0:29:450:29:47

It's a parking matter. No valid ticket.

0:29:470:29:50

The amount outstanding, as we talk, is £557.24.

0:29:500:29:55

This is for what, a parking ticket?

0:29:570:29:59

Yes, and we do take debit, credit cards, cash.

0:29:590:30:03

If you've got friends or relatives that can assist you,

0:30:030:30:06

we'll try and make it as easy as possible.

0:30:060:30:08

It's a hard way to learn,

0:30:080:30:09

paying all this money for outstanding fines?

0:30:090:30:12

But, yeah, eventually, people do, once they've been bitten,

0:30:120:30:16

they're twice shy.

0:30:160:30:17

Hello, there.

0:30:190:30:21

'£1,400.'

0:30:210:30:22

£1,412.66 outstanding in Congestion Charge.

0:30:240:30:27

The roads are still congested, it's just another tax.

0:30:280:30:31

No, they want to take the car.

0:30:310:30:34

It just seems to be another way of generating some more tax.

0:30:340:30:37

Have you got your card available?

0:30:380:30:41

-Can you afford to pay anything today?

-What, like 20 quid?

0:30:460:30:50

-No, it's got to be...

-I ain't got no money!

0:30:500:30:53

-Life is not like that, bruv! It's hard!

-So what would you propose to...

0:30:530:30:59

to pay a week?

0:30:590:31:01

-To get this out of the way.

-I'll sort something out a week.

0:31:010:31:04

-Right, so if I send the bailiff round to your new address?

-Yeah?

0:31:040:31:08

Yeah? OK?

0:31:080:31:11

-What...?

-Away you go. All right? The cars only with a small amount.

0:31:130:31:18

-Yeah, well... When you say a small amount?

-Well, not worth the fine.

0:31:190:31:23

You're saying it's not even with a fine?

0:31:230:31:25

It's not even worth the fine and the aggravation to seize it.

0:31:250:31:28

-All right?

-Unreal!

0:31:290:31:32

You got four police off-roaders parked up on the side there

0:31:330:31:36

and about 20 police.

0:31:360:31:38

For parking tickets.

0:31:380:31:39

Beats me. That's London these days, bruv, eh?

0:31:400:31:44

We've got to live with it, haven't we, eh? Have a good day.

0:31:450:31:50

I don't think we can actually see the restriction.

0:31:560:32:00

Hanger Lane gyratory.

0:32:020:32:04

In the Street Traffic Control Centre, Michele Dix can

0:32:040:32:08

find out precisely how behaviour on the road is changing.

0:32:080:32:11

-Are we monitoring parallel routes?

-Yes.

0:32:130:32:15

Oh, good, so they can extrapolate that...

0:32:150:32:18

'You've got to influence people if you're going to manage the city.'

0:32:180:32:21

It can't just be about being nice

0:32:210:32:24

and saying "We're going to make lovely for everybody.

0:32:240:32:27

"You can do what you like when you like."

0:32:270:32:29

It's not possible. We did that many years ago and look where we got.

0:32:290:32:33

We got traffic all over towns.

0:32:330:32:35

Everyone wanted to use their cars, drive everywhere. It was a mess.

0:32:350:32:37

So we thought, well, we'll introduce parking charges.

0:32:370:32:41

I don't think we can actually see the restriction exactly,

0:32:410:32:44

but we've got the nearest camera, in Lower Thames Street.

0:32:440:32:46

People do what they think is best for them.

0:32:460:32:49

You can nudge them positively, you can nudge them negatively.

0:32:490:32:53

There might be a lot of nudging needed.

0:32:530:32:56

In fact, there's a hell of a lot of nudging needed

0:32:560:32:59

to move things forward.

0:32:590:33:00

'Queues for the time being on all approaches to Victoria...'

0:33:000:33:04

But the roads of London will not be so easily tamed.

0:33:040:33:08

The traffic planners think, "Oh, this will work

0:33:080:33:10

"because everyone will do this and everyone will do that

0:33:100:33:13

"and that traffic will stop..." But it's not like that.

0:33:130:33:16

Life isn't like that.

0:33:160:33:17

If we could sit down at the beginning of our life,

0:33:210:33:23

at the beginning of our journey, and sit down and map it all out,

0:33:230:33:26

in theory, everything works.

0:33:260:33:29

In practice, it's not like that.

0:33:290:33:33

SIREN WAILS

0:33:330:33:34

Come on!

0:33:340:33:36

If you were dealing with all sensible people,

0:33:370:33:40

and everyone's acting sensibly and didn't block a junction

0:33:400:33:43

and there was an old lady crossing the road

0:33:430:33:45

and they'd slow down and let her cross the road

0:33:450:33:47

and didn't race up to the next junction

0:33:470:33:49

and slam their foot on the brakes,

0:33:490:33:51

yes, it would be a lovely world to live in.

0:33:510:33:53

INDISTINCT RADIO

0:33:530:33:55

Right, what have we got?

0:33:550:33:58

If people acted towards each other as we should be acting

0:33:580:34:01

towards each other...

0:34:010:34:02

But you'll never get that.

0:34:030:34:05

Of course we'll succeed.

0:34:070:34:09

We've been investing in technology to manage it better

0:34:090:34:12

and we're squeezing every last inch out of what we've got.

0:34:120:34:16

We've transformed the bus network.

0:34:160:34:19

We've got to help people make choices, other choices,

0:34:190:34:22

do things differently.

0:34:220:34:23

All right?

0:34:280:34:30

With the population growing rapidly, Transport For London has

0:34:340:34:38

invested over £100 million to encourage more bus passengers.

0:34:380:34:43

Yeah, receiving loud and clear. Thank you very much, sir.

0:34:430:34:45

-'No problem.'

-Things have improved an awful lot.

0:34:450:34:49

You've got dedicated bus lanes now.

0:34:490:34:52

The average car driver probably finds it frustrating.

0:34:520:34:55

He's sitting in standing traffic in one lane

0:34:550:34:58

and a bus goes along the bus lane moving quite freely.

0:34:580:35:02

You know, the journey time in his car is probably longer

0:35:020:35:05

than it is on the bus,

0:35:050:35:06

but he has got the choice of getting on the bus, hasn't he?

0:35:060:35:09

But in the fastest-growing parts of the city

0:35:090:35:12

the buses are becoming overcrowded and not everyone can fit on.

0:35:120:35:17

Although the city's bus routes are closely monitored,

0:35:170:35:20

demand is now outstripping supply.

0:35:200:35:22

Move right down, please.

0:35:230:35:25

Every morning, along the 343 bus route in South London,

0:35:250:35:29

passengers are getting left behind.

0:35:290:35:31

Move right down inside, please.

0:35:310:35:34

Two buses have gone by without stopping.

0:35:340:35:37

Two buses gone by! It's ridiculous.

0:35:370:35:39

Right, can you just hold it there, please? Hold it there.

0:35:390:35:42

We are full up.

0:35:420:35:44

No seats on the upper deck.

0:35:470:35:48

We're full up.

0:35:500:35:52

It's just a nightmare. It says there's a bus coming into minutes.

0:35:550:35:59

It rolls past and doesn't stop.

0:35:590:36:01

It's ridiculous. For the next four or five bus stops.

0:36:010:36:03

It's an absolute joke.

0:36:030:36:05

Yes, I accept people got left behind.

0:36:050:36:08

You know, we were up to capacity.

0:36:080:36:11

-How do you feel about that?

-How do

-I

-feel? Well, I've got no alternative.

0:36:130:36:17

The bus is full up.

0:36:170:36:19

One stop has become notorious for regularly

0:36:200:36:23

leaving passengers behind because the buses are already full.

0:36:230:36:27

Are you going to allow this, all jump on the back and we've been here

0:36:280:36:32

since quarter past seven?

0:36:320:36:34

-Let us in!

-He isn't going to let us in. Unbelievable.

-We are late! Open!

0:36:340:36:41

Thank you(!)

0:36:430:36:44

Furious!

0:36:460:36:48

Absolutely furious.

0:36:480:36:49

And now we're going to have to wait another 15 minutes for a bus.

0:36:490:36:54

We've been here now since quarter past seven.

0:36:540:36:56

It's now ten to eight.

0:36:570:36:59

You know, what you do? They need to improve the service.

0:36:590:37:02

I've lived here for eight years

0:37:030:37:05

and it wasn't like this in the beginning.

0:37:050:37:07

They've developed a lot of new properties in the area,

0:37:070:37:09

a lot of new people have moved in

0:37:090:37:11

but nothing has happened with the bus route.

0:37:110:37:13

It's an everyday occurrence.

0:37:130:37:16

There's another one, a packed bus. There you go.

0:37:160:37:21

Look, all on the back! Fantastic!

0:37:210:37:24

Shall we jump on the back, do you think?

0:37:240:37:27

It's the survival of the fittest, I would say.

0:37:270:37:29

Absolutely shocking.

0:37:290:37:32

We're actually taking a petition.

0:37:340:37:37

Three packed-solid buses.

0:37:370:37:39

Well, unless they do something about it now, it's going to get worse,

0:37:390:37:43

because there's more babies being born every day.

0:37:430:37:46

You can't have enough transport.

0:37:460:37:50

"We, the undersigned petitioners, request that

0:37:500:37:53

"Transport For London improves public transport

0:37:530:37:56

"along the 343 bus route."

0:37:560:38:00

The passengers are now demanding answers from Transport For London.

0:38:000:38:04

There were people arguing, families separated.

0:38:040:38:06

There were children crying because it was so full.

0:38:060:38:08

I've had drivers telling us, "It's not my problem."

0:38:080:38:12

TFL are really just lagging behind on this.

0:38:120:38:15

There's no bus that you'll be able to get on

0:38:150:38:17

because it will just go sailing past you.

0:38:170:38:19

Please, please, can we have something that this area deserves?

0:38:190:38:23

It always is very helpful when I hear things first-hand.

0:38:230:38:27

I will commit to taking what I've heard back...

0:38:270:38:31

Why haven't you done anything about it?

0:38:310:38:34

You talk about tinkering with other routes to send them down here

0:38:340:38:37

but, to be perfectly honest,

0:38:370:38:38

why not create a new route to come down here?

0:38:380:38:41

And you stand there and talk about your traffic light system

0:38:410:38:44

and your code red and this and that, what about what the passengers want?

0:38:440:38:48

There are certain areas and certain routes where perhaps the demand,

0:38:480:38:52

for whatever reason, is growing.

0:38:520:38:54

London is changing, London is developing all the time.

0:38:540:38:57

And we've increased the service

0:38:570:38:58

substantially over the last few years.

0:38:580:39:00

But by running the service more frequently,

0:39:000:39:02

that has attracted more people,

0:39:020:39:04

which means we need to look at frequency being put up again.

0:39:040:39:07

It is a culture of demanding things now.

0:39:090:39:13

This is not a criticism, but what would satisfy some people,

0:39:130:39:18

a bus every minute?

0:39:180:39:20

On some stretches of road in London

0:39:200:39:22

they've probably got one every two or three minutes.

0:39:220:39:26

If something is just good, they want it better, you know.

0:39:260:39:31

But it's not just bus passengers who want it better.

0:39:340:39:38

Please stay green, please stay green.

0:39:400:39:43

Every year, Transport For London receives

0:39:440:39:47

over 3,000 letters from motorists complaining about traffic lights.

0:39:470:39:51

It's frustration, really, that nobody does anything.

0:39:520:39:56

Linda Staines drives 12 miles to work every day.

0:39:580:40:04

It takes her over an hour.

0:40:040:40:06

She wrote in to complain about one set of lights

0:40:060:40:09

on the A13 that she believes cause her unnecessary misery.

0:40:090:40:13

An average morning is the traffic stops about two and a half miles

0:40:150:40:20

before this set of traffic lights.

0:40:200:40:22

And we travel at 10mph, stop start,

0:40:230:40:27

the whole way to the traffic lights, taking 20, 25 minutes.

0:40:270:40:31

When I'm near enough to the lights,

0:40:330:40:35

I have counted and I think it's about 18 seconds that they are red.

0:40:350:40:41

If they were only ten seconds, how much of our lives could we get back?

0:40:410:40:46

It's human beings that are coordinating

0:40:460:40:52

and setting the times on those machines.

0:40:520:40:56

We can't blame machines.

0:40:570:40:59

But what Linda doesn't know is that her traffic lights

0:41:070:41:10

ARE controlled by a machine.

0:41:100:41:12

Far from the city, hidden away in a top-secret location,

0:41:140:41:17

is a supercomputer.

0:41:170:41:18

It is Transport For London's most sophisticated weapon

0:41:200:41:23

in the battle to change how we are using the roads.

0:41:230:41:28

Well, then, you're trying to keep that frustration down to a minimum.

0:41:290:41:33

Trying to make their journey as perfect as possible,

0:41:330:41:36

or as optimal as possible, as smooth as possible.

0:41:360:41:39

We've been looking at the volume of traffic that exists in London.

0:41:390:41:43

John and Andy are responsible for maintaining the supercomputer,

0:41:450:41:48

known as UTC,

0:41:480:41:49

The Urban Traffic Control system.

0:41:490:41:52

I don't actually know how much they cost,

0:41:550:41:58

but I can't imagine they are cheap!

0:41:580:42:00

You're unlikely to find one at your home desk, I'd imagine.

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The computer is the brain controlling London's traffic lights.

0:42:040:42:08

It constantly receives data about the flow of vehicles

0:42:080:42:11

across the city from sensors buried under the road, and changes

0:42:110:42:16

the lights second by second to move traffic as efficiently as it can.

0:42:160:42:20

The millions of movements across the city every second

0:42:230:42:27

arrive at the computer via a single yellow wire.

0:42:270:42:30

It holds back the tide of chaos.

0:42:320:42:34

I don't want to touch in case I break it.

0:42:360:42:38

If that got knocked or something, in theory,

0:42:380:42:40

all London's traffic signals would stop talking to the computer,

0:42:400:42:43

the brains here, and therefore

0:42:430:42:45

the coordination between the signals that you see would disappear.

0:42:450:42:49

Anyone who's using the road network relies on that bit of cable.

0:42:490:42:53

This equipment, it is ones and zeros,

0:42:540:42:57

but the output of those ones and zeros

0:42:570:43:01

is someone crossing a road on a green man,

0:43:010:43:05

someone driving through three, four, five green lights in a row.

0:43:050:43:09

It's fundamental to the entire way that London's traffic

0:43:090:43:12

is controlled, and without it London's traffic would be a lot worse

0:43:120:43:16

and a lot more congested.

0:43:160:43:17

You should have faith in the system, definitely.

0:43:190:43:21

But overall, it's looking at the whole rather than the individual

0:43:250:43:28

route that that person is taking at that moment in time.

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75.

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And the machine is getting cleverer.

0:43:350:43:37

Last shelf, third modem, sixth position.

0:43:380:43:41

Fourth modem, second position.

0:43:410:43:44

Fourth modem, third position?

0:43:440:43:45

Every day, the supercomputer tracks over 20 million journeys over the city.

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But some journeys are more important to the supercomputer than others.

0:43:560:44:00

You're hearing nothing there, are you?

0:44:000:44:02

Yeah, it's truly exciting.

0:44:020:44:03

We're trying to put more brains, more intelligence,

0:44:030:44:06

more knowledge into it to improve as many journeys as possible.

0:44:060:44:11

The sensors in the road are now able to distinguish between different

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types of road user.

0:44:160:44:17

Buses, bikes,

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cars and pedestrians.

0:44:220:44:25

Andy is teaching the supercomputer how to prioritise one user

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over another at junctions.

0:44:280:44:31

Giving buses and bicycles more green time than cars at traffic lights.

0:44:320:44:37

At key junctions, the computer is recalibrating the city

0:44:370:44:42

in favour of bikes and buses, changing how we choose to travel.

0:44:420:44:46

We try and push the boundaries.

0:44:460:44:48

It's a noble objective to try

0:44:480:44:50

and make all the journeys as perfect as possible, certainly.

0:44:500:44:54

Morning!

0:44:590:45:01

John and Tony from the Cycle Task Force are watching over

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London's newly prioritised cyclists.

0:45:060:45:09

Cycling is what we are trying to promote. That's...

0:45:090:45:12

That's the way that things have to be.

0:45:140:45:16

They are on Cycle Superhighway 7,

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part of Transport For London's new £1 billion scheme

0:45:200:45:24

to make cycling safer.

0:45:240:45:26

But despite these new lanes,

0:45:260:45:28

tempers still flare between drivers and cyclists.

0:45:280:45:31

HORN BLARES

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ANGRY SHOUTING

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It's him!

0:45:350:45:37

A blue van and a cyclist have nearly collided.

0:45:390:45:42

-DRIVER:

-How many lanes do you want?!

-I want you to stay away from me!

0:45:420:45:46

I want you to stop shouting. Further up ahead, my colleague...

0:45:460:45:49

'Just to give you a heads up,

0:45:490:45:51

'there's a cyclist coming up to speak to you and a van.'

0:45:510:45:54

Shouting like this. Shouting, shouting, shouting.

0:45:540:45:56

-What were you doing?

-All I did was to beep him,

0:45:560:45:59

to get into the cycle lane and stop weaving between lanes.

0:45:590:46:02

-No hand gestures?

-Yeah, in the end, because you were shouting...

0:46:020:46:05

-Calm down, calm down.

-You were shouting and cussing me.

0:46:050:46:07

He had an issue with me on a bike in front of him.

0:46:070:46:10

Tooting me, passing way too close in heavy traffic.

0:46:100:46:14

And waving his fist, making rude gestures...

0:46:140:46:17

I did give him a couple of hand gestures

0:46:170:46:19

because he was in front of me and weaving like this.

0:46:190:46:22

-Right.

-Sorry.

0:46:220:46:23

We've got to share the road, haven't we? And it doesn't always work.

0:46:230:46:27

But they don't share, they take over roads. That's what causes problems.

0:46:270:46:31

Cyclists are militant!

0:46:310:46:34

And my last signal to him was, "You're nuts, mate!"

0:46:340:46:36

I'm completely loopy, yeah. That's why I cycle in London.

0:46:360:46:40

-I saw the...

-Has he explained why...?

0:46:400:46:42

..frustration with both of you when you stopped at the lights.

0:46:420:46:45

I don't know if you want to shake hands. He is prepared to.

0:46:450:46:48

That's it, over and done with.

0:46:480:46:50

I'm sorry, and I didn't know that you'd be knocked off before.

0:46:500:46:53

Well, it shouldn't really make a difference.

0:46:530:46:55

Motorists get angry

0:46:550:46:56

because at the end of the day they get away with blue murder, we don't.

0:46:560:47:00

Just both of us got het up and... watch out for each other, I think.

0:47:020:47:06

See you soon, mate.

0:47:080:47:10

There is an accident further down the road.

0:47:100:47:13

A bus has collided with a female cyclist at a junction.

0:47:180:47:22

She has been rushed to hospital.

0:47:220:47:23

-Just a little sweep to get whatever there is out of the road.

-All right.

0:47:270:47:30

With the road closed, Transport For London have dispatched their team

0:47:320:47:36

get the network back up and coming.

0:47:360:47:38

It's a female cyclist. She's got significant injuries to her legs.

0:47:380:47:41

That's as much as we know at this moment in time.

0:47:410:47:44

I must have been knocked unconscious, because when I woke up

0:47:440:47:50

there was a lady from the ambulance people that was sitting with me.

0:47:500:47:54

And I said to her, "What's happening?"

0:47:540:47:56

And then I looked down and I saw my legs...

0:47:560:48:01

under the front left wheel of the bus.

0:48:010:48:07

And I'm looking and I'm... She goes, "No, no, no, don't touch it.

0:48:070:48:12

"Don't worry, we're going to get you out of here."

0:48:120:48:14

The bus ran over Conchita Williams, crushing one of her legs

0:48:140:48:18

and severely damaging the other.

0:48:180:48:20

I'm very lucky to be alive. This is what the doctors told me.

0:48:200:48:24

I'm very, very lucky to be alive.

0:48:240:48:27

But I'll never be walking properly again. They've already told me that.

0:48:270:48:32

These sort of things could be avoided.

0:48:330:48:35

I know Boris Johnson encourages cycling and all that,

0:48:350:48:40

and I agree with him because it's good to cycle.

0:48:400:48:44

But it's very, very dangerous, as I found out for myself.

0:48:440:48:48

Personally, I think that the roads can be approved a lot.

0:48:510:48:55

They should change things, because there are accidents very often.

0:48:550:48:59

If everybody behaved

0:49:000:49:02

and uses the road sensibly between theirselves, in theory

0:49:020:49:06

there should be no problems, but we don't live in an ideal world.

0:49:060:49:10

I was driving buses in the '70s,

0:49:100:49:12

and the traffic is phenomenal to what it was then.

0:49:120:49:16

I wouldn't like to do what they do. I've never seen so many cyclists.

0:49:160:49:19

People have just got to be mindful of each other, you know,

0:49:190:49:21

just be a little bit more careful out there, I think.

0:49:210:49:24

People have got to be less selfish

0:49:270:49:29

and be able to recognise that we've got to share the roads.

0:49:290:49:33

In 2011, 4,500 cyclists were injured on London's roads.

0:49:340:49:40

So on a rain-drenched piece of tarmac in rural Berkshire,

0:49:400:49:44

Transport For London has come up with a radical new idea -

0:49:440:49:47

to transform the most dangerous junctions.

0:49:470:49:51

OK, so what we've got is we've built ourselves a roundabout

0:49:510:49:56

in the continental style here, where cyclists and drivers are separated.

0:49:560:50:00

On this so-called Dutch roundabout, the cyclists have priority.

0:50:010:50:05

Cars must stop for them, not the other way round.

0:50:050:50:08

What we don't know, of course,

0:50:080:50:11

is whether this will be a viable solution in the UK context,

0:50:110:50:15

because the road layout is unfamiliar to UK drivers.

0:50:150:50:18

Did you get lost? Do it up, darling. We need bikes, don't we?

0:50:180:50:23

But will today's guinea pigs understand this revolutionary

0:50:230:50:26

idea from Europe?

0:50:260:50:27

I'd anticipate there may be some confusion.

0:50:310:50:33

-They've never seen this before.

-There is likely to be confusion.

0:50:330:50:37

Yes, indeed.

0:50:370:50:38

SHE LAUGHS

0:50:380:50:40

Do you turn the handle when you change gears or do you not?

0:50:400:50:43

Oh, saddle!

0:50:440:50:46

If all goes well,

0:50:460:50:47

the plan is to introduce the Dutch roundabouts as early as next year.

0:50:470:50:51

Yeah, everyone is out there.

0:50:510:50:53

OK, if you'd like to proceed with the first one.

0:50:560:50:58

Cyclists will turn right. Starting three, two, one...go.

0:51:010:51:08

The cyclists are sent towards the roundabout.

0:51:160:51:19

The cars join them.

0:51:210:51:23

When they both reach the roundabout, the cars must give way,

0:51:280:51:32

allowing the cyclists to cross first.

0:51:320:51:35

It does get quite pretty when you have four cars

0:51:380:51:41

and four cyclists all circulating together.

0:51:410:51:43

But not everyone is sure of where they are supposed to go.

0:51:500:51:53

Now where do I go?

0:51:560:51:57

Oh, I go up this way, do I?

0:51:580:52:00

I don't want to bloody die!

0:52:000:52:03

And some cyclists still prefer to ignore the rules completely...

0:52:080:52:11

..going the wrong way round the roundabout.

0:52:140:52:16

That's confused everyone out there!

0:52:190:52:21

It's like being in London, isn't it?

0:52:210:52:23

Assisting some of the confused drivers.

0:52:240:52:26

One of the cyclists decided to use the orbital in the anticlockwise

0:52:260:52:30

direction, as opposed to the usual route.

0:52:300:52:33

Personally, that's the quickest route round.

0:52:330:52:35

There were no cars there, so that's the way I go.

0:52:350:52:37

What are cyclists like in London?

0:52:370:52:40

Maniacs! Absolute maniacs.

0:52:400:52:42

They come from everywhere. Couldn't describe it. They come out...

0:52:420:52:45

They pop out of anywhere, they could, and you wouldn't know it.

0:52:450:52:48

You can't account for maniacs. They're everywhere.

0:52:480:52:51

They are everywhere.

0:52:510:52:53

SIREN WAILS

0:52:530:52:55

-There's people on the carriageway, 300 yards.

-Oh, yeah, got it.

0:52:570:53:01

I think everyone's noticed in the last ten years how busy

0:53:010:53:05

the traffic has become.

0:53:050:53:07

It's every driver for themselves.

0:53:070:53:10

Sgt Chas Harris has been called to yet another

0:53:100:53:12

accident in slow-moving traffic.

0:53:120:53:15

Apparently, bad driving by another vehicle which failed to stop.

0:53:150:53:19

It appears to be damage only, I don't think anyone's hurt.

0:53:190:53:22

So we're going to see if we can get the vehicles moved to a safe

0:53:220:53:24

place and get the road reopened as quick as we can.

0:53:240:53:27

A car weaving in and out of the traffic has forced

0:53:270:53:30

vehicles behind to brake hard, shunting into one another.

0:53:300:53:34

They really, really slowed down. I slowed down as well.

0:53:350:53:37

He slowed down as well, but I don't think...

0:53:370:53:41

Two lanes have been blocked by the collision.

0:53:450:53:48

The traffic control centre can only watch

0:53:480:53:50

and wait for their police to clear the blockage.

0:53:500:53:53

It all has repercussions on the whole network.

0:53:530:53:56

Unfortunately, when you get things like this,

0:53:560:53:58

you can't really help a great deal.

0:53:580:54:01

I'll tell you what to do... Right, I'll tell you what to do.

0:54:030:54:06

Come here a minute.

0:54:060:54:08

There you go, all yours!

0:54:120:54:14

But Chas's roadblock means traffic will now back up

0:54:190:54:23

at the rate of a mile a minute.

0:54:230:54:25

They are going to tow this vehicle away,

0:54:260:54:28

so they're just holding traffic at the moment.

0:54:280:54:30

With more cars joining the queue every second,

0:54:300:54:33

the priority is to get the road clear.

0:54:330:54:35

That's the carriageway that's affected at the moment

0:54:360:54:39

because of this accident.

0:54:390:54:40

Yeah, I'm guessing it's sort of a couple of miles on the 406 tailbacks.

0:54:400:54:45

At least.

0:54:450:54:47

Come on, Dave! Come on, Dave!

0:54:480:54:52

But there's a problem.

0:54:520:54:54

HORN BLARES

0:54:540:54:55

Hey! Hey! Now! Do it now!

0:54:550:54:59

I think the problem here is that the driver's lost his car keys.

0:55:010:55:06

Sometimes when you've got an accident like this,

0:55:120:55:14

because there's quite a few vehicles,

0:55:140:55:16

as you can see, these vehicles here, despite being in the outside lane,

0:55:160:55:20

they start braking so they can actually have a look as well.

0:55:200:55:23

I've seen it cause accidents in the opposite direction as well.

0:55:230:55:26

It's just human nature.

0:55:280:55:29

Well done! Key!

0:55:350:55:37

He didn't have these.

0:55:370:55:39

The system can barely cope with the circumstances.

0:55:420:55:45

Some people would far rather sit in queues than use public transport.

0:55:450:55:52

The idea of using public transport doesn't appeal, because public

0:55:570:55:59

transport, you've got no control over it, whereas with this...

0:55:590:56:03

generally if you find some congestion,

0:56:030:56:06

you can choose an alternative route.

0:56:060:56:08

Although you can't today.

0:56:080:56:10

Congestion is getting longer and longer now.

0:56:160:56:20

I'm exactly not sure what it is, but something is wrong with traffic.

0:56:200:56:26

That's all I can say.

0:56:260:56:28

All clear and the carriageways are all running now, over.

0:56:310:56:36

Clearly, something has to be done.

0:56:360:56:39

The only solution is to force the traffic to reduce.

0:56:390:56:43

No, there's no carrot, there's only a baseball bat, isn't there?

0:56:430:56:47

All the carrots have gone.

0:56:470:56:49

Keep off our roads, there's not enough room.

0:56:490:56:52

HUBBUB

0:56:520:56:54

Shall we go in, because it's a 9.30 start?

0:56:540:56:56

Some people object to some of the ideas that are being put

0:56:580:57:01

forward "I don't want that, it's going to be dreadful."

0:57:010:57:05

Well, OK, you might think that, but if we don't do this,

0:57:050:57:07

actually the situation is going to be worse.

0:57:070:57:10

Yes, it's like anything, it's a challenge.

0:57:100:57:14

But it's problem-solving, isn't it?

0:57:170:57:19

-SHE CHUCKLES

-Doesn't time fly when you're having fun?

0:57:190:57:23

SHE CHUCKLES

0:57:230:57:25

TFL?

0:57:250:57:27

They can't do anything now, they've got less chance in the future.

0:57:270:57:30

I think you can't...

0:57:300:57:32

You can't force people to act sensibly or rationally,

0:57:320:57:36

so you won't get people out of their cars.

0:57:360:57:38

It's not like the technology doesn't exist to do this.

0:57:390:57:43

It's not like it's rocket science. It's not rocket science.

0:57:430:57:49

People adjust to circumstances. They are rational.

0:57:490:57:52

So if you change the circumstances, they'll adjust.

0:57:520:57:54

It's chock-a-block round here.

0:57:540:57:56

It won't work, because people will just get used to it

0:57:560:57:58

as things are changing.

0:57:580:58:00

Evolution.

0:58:000:58:01

You...get used to it.

0:58:010:58:04

Sometimes the plans don't work and sometimes people are just...people!

0:58:070:58:12

What can I say?

0:58:120:58:14

Are you going to succeed?

0:58:150:58:17

Of course we'll succeed, because that's our job.

0:58:170:58:20

And there's no point in having a plan that's not going to work, is there?

0:58:220:58:26

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