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I think the world views East Belfast the way it views Belfast.

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I mean, we're kind of semi-twinned with Beirut,

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or we used to be anyway.

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The people outside Belfast see a troubled area.

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People inside Belfast, I think they see a bit of a mess,

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that they are just struggling through from day to day.

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SIREN WAILS

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There are a lot of people disenfranchised, distanced,

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fractured, and people are confused.

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I think this has got to be the dead centre of my life.

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The junction of the Newtonards and the Hollywood Road.

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We lived in Sydenham

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and then we moved up to the Hollywood Road.

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My mum now lives in Belmont.

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My granny lived in Foxglove Street.

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Ravenscroft Avenue was our doctor's.

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And the barber's was over there.

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The shops were here and Radio Rentals

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where we hired the TV and the video from was down there.

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And this was just the middle of my life, this point here.

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That's why I'm back, that's why... I mean, I never left.

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In my head, certainly, I never left.

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I may live on the other side of the Lough, longer than I've ever lived here,

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but this is where I live, this is where I live in my head.

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And my connection's here.

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I suppose it's like anybody who grows up in a place.

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It's part of you. You can't escape it.

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And when somebody's pissing around with it as well

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and giving it a bad name, you want to try and do something about that.

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So I suppose that's why I'm here.

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The commemoration of the First World War is a large part

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of East Belfast over these next four years

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and I thought that tying something in with that would allow me access.

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I approached three bands.

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I thought that was the best way to do it because I felt

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that they were people who'd been pushed back to.

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There is a camaraderie, there is a sense of identity

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and belonging within the band fraternity.

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INDISTINCT SHOUTS

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Although there's been inroads made into East Belfast and the Protestant,

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Unionist, loyalist community, as it's been labelled, it is limited.

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I'm not trying to solve the problem. I'm just nibbling at it

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with a little project with some people

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who have not been approached before in this way

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to do a commemorative thing about World War I,

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examine themselves, who they are and where they are from.

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-TOGETHER:

-..Go into action, rule Britannia...

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I really do care that the people have not been properly represented.

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I mean, there is a line I hear bandied about occasionally,

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"Nobody likes us, we don't care."

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But you have to care because you have to coexist with other people.

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Also, the fact that, in 51 years of the Belfast Festival at Queen's,

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this is the first time an Orange Order Hall has been a venue.

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I love doing stuff that's breaking new ground.

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I found that my great-great-grandfather had

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went on to serve in the First World War.

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And he made it to 27 October in 1914.

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He made it to the fields of Flanders. That's as far as he got.

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"Do not repeat tactics that have gained you one victory..."

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What you are doing is trying to show the history of the past,

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our heritage, our great-grandfathers'.

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But also it's going to be our history,

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we're making history doing this and it's going to be history

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that could highlight us in a different way.

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You never really get a chance to show people what a bandsman is,

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they just see a front.

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So, every chance you get to change, take it.

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You associate a little bit with the band.

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Bands are bad, so they say.

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But they're not bad when you get to know them.

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Whenever you see people talking on the TV about a flag or something,

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the word loyalist is immediately associated with it.

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So you're branded from that.

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Being the flag, it's probably not the most important thing to me.

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People died for it, respect it.

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It's not an awful lot to ask for.

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The flag isn't going to offend me.

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If you're Irish and want to fly an Irish flag, fly it.

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Am I a loyalist?

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No.

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They don't know me, they just see the uniform.

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I'm just a normal guy.

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And you put that uniform on and they think you're bad. Which...

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..isn't right.

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-Is your mind made up?

-Do you watch the news?

-Do you wish me to stop?

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-What do you see?

-Do you see a uniform?

-Do you see a drum?

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-Do you see a flute?

-Do you see me?

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-I joined for honour.

-To protect heritage.

-To defend culture.

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-To save traditions.

-To feel proud.

-To show off.

-To get girls.

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Yeah!

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I hope that the play will show us as a union.

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We are bandsmen.

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We are Protestants and we can show people that we can do other things

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and not just play our instruments on the road.

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And that's what's interesting. That's what's keeping me in this play.

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It's inspirational.

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My family weren't linked with a band.

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We just done what every other Protestant done.

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We just went out and celebrated the parades.

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And that first sparked me off to join a band.

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I was expecting the unexpected, basically.

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And whenever I walked in, I was just gobsmacked,

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I'd just seen UDR pictures, memorials, plaques everywhere.

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And I went..."This is where I need to be".

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My grandfather was in the UDR.

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He was a soldier within their ranks.

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And I felt that I was in his shoes

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whenever I walked through those doors.

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And I'd seen all the UDR Memorial.

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And I went, "Yeah, this is my stop, I'm not moving."

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If I didn't put my foot through them doors, I wouldn't be the man who I am today.

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That was the best decision I ever made.

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And I am in a band that is known,

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that's been walking these streets for 40-odd years now.

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And I'm proud to call myself a Raven man.

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I'm doing this because I want to change people's minds.

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Culture and identity is very important to me.

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It's important to everyone, to be honest,

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to every bandsman here who's taking part in this.

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This has to challenge people's perceptions

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of who we are and what we are.

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But I'm just a normal guy of 26 years of age,

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who's just got a keen interest and a love for a flute band.

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And the poetry and the songs that we're singing

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relate to our culture, to our identity,

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to the lost generation of 1914 to 1918,

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that we are so proud of the men that gave up their lives for us.

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WHISTLING

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I was always destined to be in the band, to be honest.

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From a young age, I grew up banging pots and pans in my granda's house,

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listening to the bands, watching the bands,

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the songs and the colour, the music and the splendour of it all.

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So, coming up here on the 12th night -

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brilliant, magic,

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the road is lined six to eight deep on each side of the road,

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the crowds cheering you on.

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You think about it, it actually brings a smile to my face...

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..a sense of pride...

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honour...

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..and people shouting for your band, shouting your name

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and seeing the smiles of people's faces

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when you're marching past them.

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Nowhere like it.

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And to be honest, there's no other place I'd like to be on 12 July

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than walking with my flute band.

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This is the band's mural, this is home.

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It says everything about our band.

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Two flags, our crest, it tells us who we are.

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It makes me smile because every time I know

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when I see that mural that I'm in the Protestant Boys.

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I've seen you when you parade. I've seen you out there.

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I've seen it when the blood's up, I've seen you drumming, you know,

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you engage in a different way, this is the same engagement.

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I heard the phrase, "The band comes first and always." That's why

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I scheduled the Monday night, because that's when they normally practise.

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Several of them didn't turn up because they said,

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"No, we have the band that night."

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So the challenge was getting them all in the one place at one time,

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as well as figuring out, lads, we need to be together to do this.

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# For a moment I grant at the end of my day... #

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I've never had all of them in the one place at the one time. They all work.

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I mean, that in itself - and I'm ashamed to say it - was a shock.

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I thought it would be a bit like Benefits Street or something

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with some of them, at least.

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No, all of them have got jobs or are students.

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And they are very dedicated to the work that they do.

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We're still trying to bring it together, it's terrifying.

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I want to see your war faces. One, two, three...

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THEY ALL YELL

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SOUNDTRACK DROWNS SPEECH

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We had the full house decorated.

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We had the tree decorated and we had the whole house decorated.

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We tried to decorate out the back, but we didn't see any point

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because no-one would see it.

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We had bunting coming from the top windows down to the fences.

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But, yeah, we've kept this up,

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because I think we've kind of forgot about it. But I like it up.

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I says, "Mum, just leave it up, don't take it down."

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I did ask her to keep the bunting up

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and the flags all up around the fences and everything else,

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but she took it all down because she says

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that the marching season is finished, which is true.

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But I really wanted to keep the stuff up

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because it symbolises us as a community,

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that we are Protestants up here.

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Since I was born, I was always around the Union flag.

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It's a symbol of strength, courage, determination and spirit.

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Union flag is there and it's there for a reason.

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And so is the tricolour and the rest of the flags that you see.

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Thankfully, the Union flag is flying high.

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And I am pleased that it's flying high.

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MARCHING BAND MUSIC PLAYS

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HE WHISTLES ALONG

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Does this Protestant not know I don't like hill starts?

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THEY LAUGH

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I don't know how anyone can sit in their house on the 12th day

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and not even go and watch the bands

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or go and do something else,

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cos it would rack me.

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My mum and dad went to America, 2004,

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er...with my brother and sister and they wanted me to go and I said,

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"No, I'm not going, I'm not missing the 12th."

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And I wasn't even in the band then.

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I told my missus too, I said,

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if we ever have a child due on the 12th day, I'm happy if her waters broke.

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LAUGHTER

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It's our life, it's a way of life. Nothing else comes into it.

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See growing up, see England, Scotland and Wales,

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they grew up when they were younger

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and football is their night for a fella.

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For us, it's bands is our night.

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And we love it.

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The 12th day is the best day.

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He mightn't agree but I agree. The 12th day is the best day.

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I like the 1st of July better.

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The 1st of July means more.

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We're walking that night for Protestants and Catholics who fought

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in the First World War.

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The 10th, the 16th and the 36th Ulster Division.

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The 36th Ulster Division.

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We're remembering every single person who

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fought in the First World War on the 1st of July.

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These were the men that obviously signed the Ulster Covenant.

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Some wrote it in their own blood

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and then obviously joined the Ulster Volunteer Force

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on the 13th of January 1913 and then obviously war broke out

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and then these men ended up joining the 36th Ulster Division.

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The 8th Battalion Royal Irish Rifles

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especially was the East Belfast Battalion, so it was.

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Off to France they went.

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Fought for King and country. Some obviously never returned.

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There are obviously thousands still in France, buried there.

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Many an Orangeman and many a Roman Catholic fought side-by-side

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and died side-by-side.

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You have to feel proud.

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What is there not to feel proud about that men went and fought

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and died for you?

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It's been a real adventure, I suppose. It's been tough,

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it's been frustrating, it's been difficult,

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and it's been exhilarating, too,

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just bringing these guys along and finding something in them

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that they didn't know they had.

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I think that there's a defence mechanism that has to operate

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if you're in a marching band, because the world seems to be against you.

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But these guys are letting the world in.

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I have to let them do it on their own,

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I have to let them stand on their own two feet,

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and I think the heart of it is they are doing it for the best of reasons,

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the best of intentions,

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and if their skills are not up to professional standard, so what?

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I'm nervous for them.

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They'll get out there, it'll happen, I'll give them all the support I can.

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The music, the sound, the lights, it'll all be there.

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But it's up to them, in the end.

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Whenever we're standing ready to go and the lights dim,

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you want people to see that you're enjoying it.

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What are you going to say when he says there's a war going on?

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'You want to put everything, your heart and soul,

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'blood, sweat and tears into this performance'

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so people will have hairs stand up on the back of their necks

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and go, "Right, OK, I didn't expect that from these ones."

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Hunter, S.

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Engineer.

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Royal Navy HM Transports.

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Harper Street, East Belfast.

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Died of wounds.

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Robert.

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Rifleman. Royal Irish Rifles.

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122 Castlereagh Street, East Belfast.

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Killed in action.

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If we didn't have wood, corrugated metal,

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sandbags would do,

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and we built up the parapet and kept our heads down.

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My mum's coming, my sister, probably my girlfriend,

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there's ones out of the band coming.

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I think the guys from the band will be pretty pleased.

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Anybody I speak to and tell them what we're doing, they're just like,

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"Aye, dead on. You're not going to be able to do that."

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I think whenever they see it, they'll be pleasantly surprised.

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-Done much yourself?

-Sorry?

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And have you done much killing in the Inniskilling Fusiliers,

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Robert Anderson?

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'For people to come here and to see us singing on stage,

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'doing a bit of dance, doing a bit of drama, our culture is really

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'important to us but this is another culture that we're taking part in.

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'And hopefully their opinions are changed of us.'

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You're just raging you can't kiss me.

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'It actually has been great to take part in something

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'and to feel proud of something else'

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cos when you walk out on the streets with your band,

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you feel immensely proud, especially the 12th of July, but...

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..here's something to give me something else

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to be immensely proud of.

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APPLAUSE

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Thank you, good night.

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CHEERING

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"Dear Cheryl, how life has changed from just a few weeks ago,

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"from me, you and the girls sitting around the table, having our evening

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"dinner, to me being out here in this war-stricken hellhole of a country.

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"It's a far cry from home.

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"I do hope this letter reaches you and I hope to see you

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"in the not-so-distant future.

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"All my love, Thomas."

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'Today I'm heading to France

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'to visit my great-great-grandfather's war grave.

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'I decided to write a letter to try and sort of feel like he did,

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'even though you're never going to.

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'It's the closest you're going to get to it, is to write your thoughts out.

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'Hopefully they can resemble something that maybe he did write.'

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As far as I know,

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this is the only picture that is still in the family of Thomas.

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He had great respect for his country and what he did

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and me going is the only way I can give him the respect that he needs.

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Whenever you're talking to somebody that's in a band,

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they have two faces.

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One face is a socialising face.

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They go out, they go out with their friends,

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they go out with their mates, they go out with their girlfriends

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or their wives or their fiancees, whatever it may be.

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They put a uniform on, they're a completely different person.

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And it's a huge responsibility.

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It feels as though I'm putting duty on my shoulders.

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I put my trousers on and my T-shirt on first

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and I just walk about the house with it on until I have to go.

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I get my boots on, my tunic on, my hat and belt on, put my flute

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in my pocket and I step out that front door and I am a bandsman.

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It's not that I'm really proud of myself, I'm just proud of the

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decisions that I made for myself that make me the person I am today.

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I got a poppy cross to take to France with me.

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That's the way that you remember the fallen, is through poppies.

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It's just a mark of respect for what he had done 100 years ago.

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It's the way you can...

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It's the closest connection that you're possibly going to have

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to him, because he doesn't have a real grave where his body's resting

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and there's a headstone for him. It's the only possible way...

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that he's going to be remembered.

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Over here is like a replica of France. You get the same feeling.

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Just standing looking at all the waves. It's...

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It's inspirational.

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Whenever them boats hit the beaches

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and they walked onto land they've never felt before,

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they've fought people they've never seen before,

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they were in surroundings they're not comfortable with,

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they didn't know, they didn't know where they were.

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Realistically, I don't think that was in their head at the time.

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I think they were thinking, "The sooner we get this war done

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"and finished, the sooner we can go back home."

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You see bands on the road and they're in ranks.

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Them boys would be in the same ranks.

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Only they would have weapons.

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But our weapons is drums and flutes.

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If another world war were to happen and I was asked to join,

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I wouldn't hesitate.

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I would go for the same reasons them boys left their homes -

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to fight for Queen and country.

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It's been a lot stronger feeling than I expected.

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You sort of come thinking it's just going to be a memorial,

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gravestones, and you actually come out and you see...

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so many names and so many people that were probably from Belfast as well.

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It makes it a lot more real.

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In the future, whenever you're

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praying at memorial services or going to Remembrance Sunday,

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you'll definitely be able to look back and be thinking of here.

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When you've visited it and seen it, it'll always be in your head

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whenever you're at them types of services.

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There.

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To be the first family member that I know of to come out here

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and visit Thomas's grave,

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it's nice to be able to lay the cross

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beneath his name in memory of him.

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It's 100 years from the battle so... it couldn't happen at a better time.

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War's not a good thing.

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You might win but...

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..it's a great sacrifice for that win.

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It's the ultimate sacrifice.

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We've killed people, we've shot people, murdered people,

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bombed people, families on both sides left brokenhearted.

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We need respect and we need tolerance.

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And we have to find a common ground in that.

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And when you look out over the city centre and over the city

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and Belfast Lough, the shipyard, the houses so close together,

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yes, we know that there's a Protestant area, a Catholic area,

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but them times are changing now as well.

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Have to look forward, have to build a shared future

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where the Orange tradition,

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Protestant tradition, cultural heritage is accepted.

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And we have to accept the Irish tradition, too.

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Hopefully we have a future for my kids, my grandkids,

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hopefully, if I live long to see them.

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Hopefully they can enjoy the culture and the tradition

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and heritage that I have, too.

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And hopefully they'll still be able to walk

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the 12th of July route every year.

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We all realise that we are just the same people.

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We do worship the same God.

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When you pass on, you either go up above to the good Lord

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or you go down below.

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And if I get to Heaven,

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hopefully I'll be playing my drum for the good Lord.

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