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This stretch of Park Avenue on the Upper East Side of Manhattan | 0:00:34 | 0:00:41 | |
is the wealthiest neighbourhood in New York City. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
This is where the people at the top of the ladder live. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
The upper crust. The ultra rich. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
But this street is about a lot more than money. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
It's about political power. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
The rich here haven't just used their money to buy fancy cars, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
private jets and mansions. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
They've also used it to rig the game in their favour. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
Over the last 30 years, they've enjoyed unprecedented | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
prosperity from a system that they increasingly control. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:18 | |
But if you head north for about ten minutes, this Park Avenue | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
comes to an end at the Harlem River. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
On the other side of the water, there is another Park Avenue. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:31 | |
This is the South Bronx, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
home to America's poorest congressional district. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
There are 700,000 people in this district. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
Almost 40% of them live in poverty, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
making less than 40 dollars a day. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
From here, the last 30 years have looked very different than | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
the view from Manhattan's Park Avenue. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
People here have seen their wages fall | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
and the cost of almost everything else go through the roof. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
They've lost their jobs in the recession | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
caused by bankers across the river. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
They've watched their children struggle in failing schools. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
And they've ended up even worse off than they were a generation ago. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
But America is still a land of opportunity, isn't it? | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
A place where anyone can make it to the top | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
if they are willing to work hard and set their sights high. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
That's what makes this country great. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
Isn't that what we tell ourselves? | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
But in today's America, what are the chances that someone who starts | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
-their life on -this -Park Avenue will end up living on -this -Park Avenue? | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
Let's imagine that you're invited to a game of Monopoly. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
And you arrive at this game to find out that all of the properties | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
have been divided up, all of the money has already been handed out, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
but you're told, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:03 | |
"Hey, go ahead and sit down. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
"Play the game. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:06 | |
"We're going to give you a chance to play just like everyone else." | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
There are some in society that have a lot of access, a lot of | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
social mobility, a lot of resources to do the things that they want. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:21 | |
As opposed to other people who are more disadvantaged, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
more underprivileged, don't have the same levels of resources. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
Paul Piff is a social psychologist at | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
the University of California, Berkeley, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
who studies the psychology of wealth | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
and the consequences of inequality in our society. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
We came upon an experiment he conducted that caught our interest. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
Oh, yeah. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
Monopoly first became a hit during the Great Depression. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
It's a game of ruthless, dog-eat-dog capitalism. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
True to the American Dream, everyone has an equal opportunity, starting | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
with the same amount of money and the same chance to succeed. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
Winning is a mix of luck and skill. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
For his experiment, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
Piff rigged the game by giving one player a huge advantage. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:13 | |
So there are two players, they don't know each other. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
You flip a coin to determine your position. So it's random. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
Almost like your emergence into the world is random. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
Whether you land in this family or this other family. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
If you were the rich person you got a lot more money. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
You got two times as much money. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
When you pass Go, you collect 200, you would get to roll both dice | 0:04:30 | 0:04:36 | |
so you are allowed to move around the board quicker. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
Now, if you are on the low end, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
we really hit you hard. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
You got half the money, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
when you passed Go, you collected half the salary, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
You only got to roll one die, so you're | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
moving around the board very, very slowly as the other person is | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
just whizzing around you, collecting 200 dollars every couple of turns. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
Even in a game that's openly rigged, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
the rich players inevitably exhibit a sense of entitlement. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
They gobble up more of the carefully placed pretzels. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
They come to believe that they deserve to win. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
And they showed no concern for the misfortune of the poor players, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
even though the poor players | 0:05:27 | 0:05:28 | |
don't stand the slightest chance of winning. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
The idea of the American dream | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
is that everyone's got an equal opportunity. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
You've just got to decide to play. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
But in fact, there are large groups of people | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
that experience the game as unfair. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
The opportunity's not there. All the rules have been decided. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:53 | |
The property's already been bought up | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
and the money is already in the hands of the other players. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
Woo! You rebound. Wo Ho! Oh! | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
I'm Michael Jordan. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:03 | |
-I'm Kobe. -I'm Ray Allen! | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
Almost all families start out with wanting the same things | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
for their children. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
They want them to be safe. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:12 | |
They want them to be happy | 0:06:12 | 0:06:13 | |
and they want them to be successful and healthy. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
But even before birth, so many kids start that race behind. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:23 | |
They come into a neighbourhood that's unsafe. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
Maybe they are in an overcrowded apartment. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
They don't have healthy nutrition. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
They might have medical issues that aren't being addressed. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
I would say their number one challenge is just | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
a lack of opportunities in general. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
In parts of the South Bronx, unemployment has reached 19%, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
and many families struggle just to put food on the table. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
Pastor Colin Dunkley | 0:06:51 | 0:06:52 | |
and his wife, April, run a food pantry in the South Bronx. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
It feeds about 200 struggling families every week. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
I like helping people. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
I like serving the people. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:02 | |
I like helping the people. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
If there's something we can do to bless them | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
that's what we're going to do. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:08 | |
You typically get the vegetables in the can, beans in the can, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
bags of rice. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
Sometimes we get the get the little sippy Capri Sun juices. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
We'll put those in the bag for the kids. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
But they don't have nearly enough to meet the demand. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
When we visited, they ran out of food in 15 minutes. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
No more comida! Nada! No more! | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
There is no more food at this time. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
You can come back next Monday at 2 o'clock. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
That's it, Mommy, that's it. No, sir, I'm sorry. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
No more. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:38 | |
It is very, very hard to pull yourself out of extreme | 0:07:40 | 0:07:45 | |
poverty in the United States. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:46 | |
It almost never happens. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
This runs completely counter to what people's notion of America | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
has been for a very long time. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
We think of ourselves as the land of opportunity. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
Mobility in the United States | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
lags most other advanced industrial democracies. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
When I was growing up, the image of America, the self-image, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
was of a vast, middle class country. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
Of course, there was a small rich group and there were some poor, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:19 | |
but America prided itself and understood that its health | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
was because of a vast middle class. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
We're not that kind of society any more. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
There's always been a gap between the wealthiest in our society | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
and everyone else, but in the last 30 years something changed. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:38 | |
That gap became the Grand Canyon. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
The incomes of people at the lower end stagnated. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
And a disproportionate amount of | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
the growth in the economy has accrued to those at the upper end. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
This is what America's economic pie | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
looked like in the decades | 0:08:57 | 0:08:58 | |
after World War II. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
Income gains shared by everyone, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
with big portions | 0:09:02 | 0:09:03 | |
going to average Americans. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
But since the late 1970s, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
the bottom 90% have seen their share | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
completely devoured by the top 1%. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
The wealthy are getting an enormous percentage of all of the gains | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
in the entire economy. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
When I talk about the wealthy I'm talking about, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
like, in the thousands of people. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
Thousands might be overstating it. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
As of 2010, only 400 of the richest Americans controlled more wealth | 0:09:29 | 0:09:34 | |
than the bottom half of American households. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
That's 150 million people. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
The question is, what are the people at the top going to do with | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
all that money? | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
There is a little, tiny group and it's probably 1% of the 1%. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:54 | |
Those people are concentrated in a very small number of places. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
New York has been one of those places since the early 19th century. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
It has been a world city with world-class fortunes | 0:10:02 | 0:10:08 | |
and it has been a magnet for people who live in the 1% of the 1%. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:14 | |
I was in a taxi going down Fifth Avenue | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
looking for the richest apartment building in New York, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
and there were about ten buildings that were on the initial list. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:27 | |
740 Park became the epicentre of the people who ruled the world. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
Truly the masters of the universe. They all lived at 740 Park. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
It was known before my book as the Rockefeller Building but in fact | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
Rockefeller was not one of the original people in the building. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
It was built by Jackie Kennedy's grandfather, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
James T Lee, in a consortium with a group of the people who were | 0:11:13 | 0:11:18 | |
considered to be responsible for the market crash of 1929 | 0:11:18 | 0:11:23 | |
and the depression that followed. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
And then it became kind of the Standard Oil building. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
It was the building where lots of Standard Oil executives | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
and their friends all lived. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:32 | |
It was truly considered the holy grail for a certain kind | 0:11:32 | 0:11:37 | |
of wealthy New Yorker. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
Now, the largest category in 740 Park are hedge fund guys, | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
and they're the people with the most money now. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
They are the equivalent of the oil people from the '30s. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
These guys rule the world, you know. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
They are multi-billionaires of, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
CEOs of the major corporations in the world. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
This doorman once worked at 740 Park Avenue. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
He agreed to be interviewed, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
under the condition that we hide his face and alter his voice. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
To work at 740 you really need to know somebody within the business. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:13 | |
You know, you're working at the top building in the world. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
It's only 31 units, it's not a lot of residents, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
but they're high-tempered and, you know, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
you have to have a thick skin to work there. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
You're going to be dealing with detestable people | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
and you're going to be dealing with billionaires. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
You need to know everything about the residents - | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
what time they wake up to go down to Wall Street, whose car is which, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:37 | |
who likes to get their own door, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
who gets in the passenger seat, who gets in the back seat. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
You know, these things don't seem like a big thing to me and you, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
but even a minor mishap, and you'll be fired straight away. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
Who are some of the key tenants in the building now? | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
You've got John Thain, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
the CEO who presided over the downfall of Merrill Lynch. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
Ezra Merkin, who was the feeder to Bernie Madoff. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
David Koch, who is the richest person in the building. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
And, of course, Steve Schwarzman, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
the poster child of capitalistic greed in the last 10 years. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
Billionaire Stephen Schwarzman, one of the kings of private equity, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
lives in 740 Park's most extravagant apartment. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
Schwarzman was a managing director at Lehman Bothers | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
before co-founding the Blackstone Group. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
He is one of the most prominent CEOs | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
when it comes to lobbying for tax policies that favour the ultra rich. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
He was a strange guy, Mr Schwarzman. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
Thank you for the opportunity to address | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
the 66th annual Alfred E Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:45 | |
We call it Occupy Waldorf. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
He seemed to be out of the public eye, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
but then these little spurts, where he'd have his 60th birthday party, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
he had Rod Stewart play and it was all over the papers. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
And he had a replica of his apartment built in this hotel | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
and it was just completely ridiculous. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
He'd have his annual Christmas party | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
and he'd have 25 Christmas trees come in, | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
these massive Christmas trees. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
-25 Christmas trees? -Yeah. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
I mean every room would get a Christmas tree | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
and be fully decorated. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
Steve Schwarzman lives in the apartment that had previously been | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
owned by John D Rockefeller, Jr. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
It's a sprawling apartment. It's 37 rooms. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
Lavish beyond your wildest imagining. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
20,000 square feet. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
Schwarzman paid just under 30 million for this apartment. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
Pocket change for a Wall Street tycoon worth over five billion. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
If a few people do really well, why is that such a big deal? | 0:14:45 | 0:14:50 | |
Isn't that just proof of the American dream, you work hard, | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
and you're successful? | 0:14:52 | 0:14:53 | |
We as a society have very complex views about economic inequality. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:58 | |
Americans are not of the view | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
that all inequalities of wealth or income are unjust. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
In fact, they think if you work harder, | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
if you seize opportunities, then you should be able to get ahead. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
Jacob Hacker is a political scientist at Yale, and the co-author | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
of Winner-Take-All Politics, which argues that this extraordinary | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
accumulation of wealth at the top isn't just about hard work. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
It's about the wealthy interests using the political system to | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
rig the rules in their favour. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
There's been a reinforcing cycle. Those at the top have done well. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
They've invested in policies that are favourable to them, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
and they've done even better, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
and then they've churned a lot of that money back into politics. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
We sought out the poster child for political corruption, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
former lobbyist Jack Abramoff. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
Having pled guilty to charges | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
including conspiracy to bribe public officials, | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
Abramoff spent nearly four years in federal prison. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
Now released, he is touring the country, trying to promote reform. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
I wish I could tell you that in the midst of all of my lobbying | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
activity I came to an epiphany, but I didn't. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
It, unfortunately for me, required my demise. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
Jack Abramoff has pled guilty to federal corruption charges. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
But eventually, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
I decided to look honestly at the past activities I had engaged in. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
I also systemically looked at the overall picture. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
And realised that the system itself was really badly in disrepair. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
The lobbyists will bring in the exact draft of what they want | 0:16:28 | 0:16:33 | |
because they want to make sure it is exactly what they need. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
You know, the staff are busy, the congressman busy, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
and so they, frequently in the past, and still, avail themselves of | 0:16:39 | 0:16:44 | |
the services, let's call them, of the lobbyists to write these bills. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:49 | |
Now as a lobbyist, what was your leverage in terms of getting | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
members to sponsor the bills that you had written? | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
A lobbyist needs to get to the decision maker, the congressman | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
and the staff, and that involves, unfortunately, financial conveyances. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:04 | |
One of the dirty little secrets in Washington today is how much | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
time members of the House and Senate spend every week, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
not just in the elections season, but all the time, year-round, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
on the telephone, asking people for money. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
It's begging for money. It's a sad spectacle. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
When you have campaigns that are costing tens of millions | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
of dollars, the people who have the money want something back. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
Money is being used to buy results. That is the problem. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
That's how I used money. I know what I was doing. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
Washington is almost owned | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
and operated by the US corporate sector at this point. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
There are so many billions of dollars of spending on lobbying, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:49 | |
there are so many lobbyists that are in the room, writing the regs, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
writing the laws right now, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
there is so much financing of political campaigns, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
there are so many bought politicians. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
Our civics books tell us that | 0:18:02 | 0:18:03 | |
the President is the most powerful person in the world | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
and that special interests must go to Washington | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
to petition the government. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:10 | |
But when it comes time to raise money, | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
our presidents go hat in hand to the people who really have the power. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:18 | |
In 2007, President George W Bush made a pilgrimage | 0:18:18 | 0:18:23 | |
to Steve Schwarzman's apartment | 0:18:23 | 0:18:24 | |
to ask for money for the Republican National Committee. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
The secret service were coming for, I would say, three to four months | 0:18:27 | 0:18:32 | |
before the actual visit. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:33 | |
And they would come every week just to check up, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
look around the building. They did background checks on us, for sure. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
They had the sharp shooters out. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
They brought Mr Bush to Mr Schwarzman's apartment. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
He spent maybe 15 minutes, out, and that's it. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
Why did John Dillinger rob banks? That's where the money is. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
Well, 740 Park is where the money is and in this day and age, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
any candidate who didn't go to 740 Park would probably be foolish. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
I'm Mitt Romney, I believe in America | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
and I'm running for President of the United States. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:12 | |
-NEWSREADER: -Romney has a private meeting on Park Avenue | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
with prominent CEOs eager for change in Washington. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
Mitt Romney went to kiss Mr Schwarzman's ring | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
and meet some of his friends | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
and no doubt collect a few cheques. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:24 | |
What makes him good for the country? | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
Mitt, he's a natural leader, and he's accessible. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:32 | |
He listens to what you say. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
And what are you telling him about what needs to be done? | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
Uh, well, we had a nice meeting about three weeks ago for an hour | 0:19:36 | 0:19:41 | |
and what I tell him stays with me, but uh... | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
OK, fair enough. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
..I'm not shy. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
They can influence the writing of laws, the implementation | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
of regulation, the degree to which the tax code tilts towards business | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
and those at the top versus ordinary working Americans. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
A perfect example of the influence that a small group of billionaires | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
can have on the government is something in the tax code | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
called the carried interest provision. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
It allows hedge fund | 0:20:09 | 0:20:10 | |
and private equity managers like Steve Schwarzman to pay | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
a 15% tax rate on their income, even though, unlike | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
normal capital gains, they're not required to risk their own money. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
When it's explained to people, they think it's crazy. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
The most highly paid financial executives get taxed at a rate | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
lower than your mom and pop grocery. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
It is in the tax code | 0:20:32 | 0:20:33 | |
because of the incredibly effective lobbying of the financial industry. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:39 | |
OK, it was a question about carried interest being | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
taxed at a lower rate. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
We sort of look at this as a, as sort of an issue that's | 0:20:45 | 0:20:50 | |
now in the political world, and it will be solved in that world. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:56 | |
We don't have much of a say in that. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
Schwarzman went to Capitol Hill yesterday | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
and stood outside the Senate chamber lobbying senators. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
Schwarzman was there to fight against higher taxes | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
on so-called carried interest. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:08 | |
From 2006 on, every Democratic leader, and President, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
in the case of President Obama, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
has said, "We're going to get rid of this." | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
Let's ask hedge fund managers to stop paying taxes | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
that are lower on their rates than their secretaries. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
And then magically it manages to survive. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
Before you know it, the congressional session has ended | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
and, "Oh my God, we ran out of time. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
"We didn't get to it, we'll do it next time." | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
It appears the Democrats | 0:21:32 | 0:21:33 | |
have completed their takeover of Capitol Hill. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
Even when Democrats controlled both houses of Congress, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
they couldn't close the carried interest loophole. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
The question is why? | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
It passed the House, twice! | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
But in the Senate, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
the hedge funds had a pal in Charles Schumer of New York. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
The senator from Wall Street, as he was known for many years. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
Charles Schumer is one of the most powerful senators in the country | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
and has raised more campaign money from the financial industry | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
than any other Democrat currently serving in Congress. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
Schumer became famous for his ability to gain Wall Street dollars. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
That's why he was elevated within the Democratic leadership. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
It was because he was such an effective fundraiser. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
Schumer in that period was the chairman | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
of the Senate Democratic campaign committee, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
which, you've got to give the guy credit, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
he turned this into an absolute money machine. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
Schumer helped the Democratic Party | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
raise record amounts from Wall Street. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
And in June 2007, as the Senate was considering legislation to close | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
the carried interest loophole, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
Schumer went on a fundraising frenzy. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
In that one month, he raised more than 1 million | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
from hedge funds and private equity firms like Blackstone. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
The carried interest bill never saw the light of day. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
Schumer just buried the idea. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
It never came up for a vote in a committee | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
or on the floor of the Senate. It just disappeared. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
And that, I think, is a perfect example of the way in which | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
money talks in American politics today. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
And nobody's money talks louder than David Koch's. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
This right-wing oil tycoon with a fortune of 25 billion | 0:23:07 | 0:23:12 | |
is the richest resident of 740 Park Avenue. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
David and his brother Charles run Koch Industries, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
one of the largest privately-owned companies in the world. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
They make things like Dixie Cups, Brawny paper towels, Lycra, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
and Stainmaster carpet. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
But their most profitable business is oil and gas, which helps | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
Koch Industries bring in over 100 billion in annual revenues. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
Together, the Koch brothers may have spent more money to influence | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
American politics than anyone else in the country. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
They basically are unprecedented. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
They influence American politics | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
on a completely different dimension than anybody else. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
# The minute you walked in the joint | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
# I could see you were a man of distinction | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
# A real big spender... # | 0:23:55 | 0:24:00 | |
Millions of dollars to Republican politicians. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
More than 15 million, for example, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
to lobby in Washington since 2006. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:05 | |
# Good looking, so refined | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
# Say wouldn't you like to know what's going on in my mind? # | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
As much as 200 million of their own money this year to | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
help defeat President Obama. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:17 | |
# Hey big spender | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
# Spend a little time with me. # | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
In 1980, David Koch actually ran for Vice President | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
on the libertarian ticket. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:36 | |
They count on growing sympathy for their party's single goal - | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
freedom from government. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
He did abysmally. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
The libertarian ticket got 1% of the vote in America in 1980. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:49 | |
What they learned from that is that they had to figure out | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
another way to get their ideas to become influential. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
So the Kochs decided to use their money to advance their agenda. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
They gave generously to political candidates, | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
but, more importantly, they invested heavily in groups that could | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
bring their anti-government ideas into the mainstream. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
The brothers gave millions to right-wing think tanks | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
and Charles even founded one - the libertarian Cato Institute. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
Government's too big, and it's getting bigger, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
and we don't want to encourage bigger government. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
Take the keys to the liquor cabinet away from the alcoholics. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
The Kochs also wrote out enormous cheques to universities | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
to support programmes that would promote deregulation | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
and free market economics. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:31 | |
Their free-market ideology, they argue, is just about principle. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:36 | |
But there are many, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
many areas in which their business interests butt into regulations. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
Environmental regulations have been especially bad for the Kochs' | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
bottom line, and they've been slapped with numerous fines | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
from the Environmental Protection Agency. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
We are talking about millions of gallons of crude oil being | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
released into the environment. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
In 2000, Koch Industries had to pay a 30 million fine | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
for its role in over 300 oil spills. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
At the time, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:06 | |
it was the largest civil penalty in the EPA's history. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
When you make businesses less competitive because they are | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
having to deal with regulations from the Environmental Protection Agency | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
and other unelected bureaucracies, instead of creating jobs | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
and instead of being able to compete with our foreign competitors, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
we know it kills jobs. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:23 | |
This is Tim Phillips, the head of the Koch brothers' latest venture, | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
Americans For Prosperity. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
We're genuinely fighting to preserve and expand economic freedom, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
which we believe is the best way to give folks | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
from every walk of life prosperity and a shot at a better life. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
Through Americans For Prosperity, the Kochs have provided | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
tremendous financial backing to the Tea Party movement, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
by organising rallies and protests, flying in big name guest speakers. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
Don't tax us any more. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
And flooding the airwaves with advertising. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
Wasteful spending must stop. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
Go to spendingcrisis.org to make your voice heard. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
People were looking at the Tea Party movement | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
as this sort of spontaneous combustion, | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
this grassroots thing that just exploded, and what it really was, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:11 | |
was something that was being fed by libertarian billionaires. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:17 | |
We want the maximum freedom to launch businesses, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
create opportunity, and expand prosperity. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:25 | |
We desire a tax code that does not punish hard work or crush | 0:27:25 | 0:27:30 | |
the entrepreneurial spirit that makes America unique in the world. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:34 | |
They have this ideology of the free market | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
and how making money equals freedom and if you listen | 0:27:40 | 0:27:45 | |
to the Tea Party rhetoric, you hear exactly the same phrases. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
Our side, the side you're on today, is the side, frankly, of freedom. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:53 | |
CHEERING | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
They're chanting "Liberty!" and chanting "No more taxes!" | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
Freedom, liberty, and people waking up to the fact that this | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
is our country and it's up to us to take it back. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
Our rights are being taken away. Little by little. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
But what kind of freedom is Americans For Prosperity | 0:28:07 | 0:28:11 | |
talking about? | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
Is it freedom for everyone? | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
Or just for billionaires who want freedom from taxes, | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
the freedom to pollute, | 0:28:18 | 0:28:19 | |
and freedom from any responsibility to the rest of society? | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
To answer that question, just go to one of their rallies, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
where you're likely to see signs promoting a once-discredited | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
philosopher and novelist who's recently found a new audience. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
Here in the United States, perhaps the most challenging | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
and unusual new philosophy has been forged by a novelist - Ayn Rand. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
Ms Rand's point of view is still comparatively unknown in America | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
but if it ever did take hold, it would revolutionise our lives. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
I am opposed to all forms of control. | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
I am for an absolute, laissez-faire, free, unregulated economy. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:05 | |
Ayn Rand wrote a series of novels that have become | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
a kind of touchstone for contemporary Republican politicians, | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
most notably, Atlas Shrugged. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
There's Atlas. He holds the world on his shoulders. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
What if Atlas shrugged? | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
Picture this, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:20 | |
an anti-Utopia society that collapses under government controls. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:25 | |
Does this sound familiar? It should. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
It's Ayn Rand's story of Atlas Shrugged. And now it's a movie. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
One very popular with Tea Party members. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
Atlas Shrugged is about an America where businesses are regulated. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
The rich pay taxes | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
and the government tries to help the middle class and the poor. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
In other words, a doomsday scenario. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
In Rand's world, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
anyone who needs a little help in life is a moocher or a parasite. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
And anyone who wants to help others is a villain. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
Her heroes are proud to be as selfish as possible. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:05 | |
You really don't care about helping | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
-the underprivileged, do you? -No, Philip. I don't. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
Finally, the CEOs of America get sick and tired | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
of living under a government that no longer caters to them | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
and they decide to go on strike. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:17 | |
-What are you selling, pal? -Nothing. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
I'm simply offering a society that cultivates individual achievement. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:24 | |
They head off into the mountains and start a new society, | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
one where there is no government. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
Atlas Shrugged is told as a horror story, | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
a nightmarish vision of what would happen to our country | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
if wealthy Americans like David Koch and Steve Schwarzman | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
just left us to fend for ourselves. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
No! | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
Yeah, we support it. We had screenings around the country. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
We like that story to be out there | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
and we like the ideas to be out there. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
We certainly believe and share | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
many of the principles and values that book was based on, | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
the inherent morality of capitalism. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
You do not like the altruism by which we live? | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
Well, you see, "I don't like" is too weak a word. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
I consider it evil. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
The appeal of Ayn Rand is that, um, you know, | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
it's basically the Gordon Gekko message - greed is good. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
That ideology is appealing, I suppose, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
if you have a tremendous amount of money. You may feel guilty otherwise. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
How does your philosophy translate itself into the world of politics? | 0:31:23 | 0:31:28 | |
We believe that America deserves a choice of two futures. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
Paul Ryan receives more money from the Koch Brothers | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
than any other member of Congress. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
He is also the country's most powerful politician | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
to publicly embrace the philosophy of Ayn Rand. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
By running on his anti-government views, | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
this Republican from Wisconsin became a Tea Party favourite, | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
a powerful member of Congress, and a candidate for high office. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
Join me in welcoming | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
the next president of the United States, Paul Ryan. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
VICE President of the United States! | 0:32:00 | 0:32:04 | |
We will restore the greatness of this country. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
It is our duty to save the American dream for our children. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:12 | |
What kind of people do we want to be? | 0:32:12 | 0:32:16 | |
-Free! -Free! | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
With his rise to prominence, | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
Ryan has denied his affection for Ayn Rand. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
But history tells a different story. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
I just want to speak to you a little bit about Ayn Rand, | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
and what she meant to me in my life | 0:32:30 | 0:32:31 | |
and the fight we're engaged here in Congress. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
The reason I got involved in public service, by and large, | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
if I had to credit one thinker, one person, it would be Ayn Rand. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
You believe that there should be no right by the government to tax. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:45 | |
You believe that there should be no such thing as welfare legislation, | 0:32:45 | 0:32:49 | |
unemployment compensation. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
It's inspired me so much that its required reading in my office | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
for all my interns and my staff, we start with Atlas Shrugged. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
How do we build roads? Sanitation facilities, hospitals, schools? | 0:32:57 | 0:33:02 | |
I believe in private roads, | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
private post offices, private schools. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
It's so important that we go back to our roots, | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
to look at Ayn Rand's vision, her writings, | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
to see what our girding undergrounding principles are, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
we have to go back to Ayn Rand. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
Our plan takes power away from Washington | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
and gives it back to the individual. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
While in Congress, Ryan put Ayn Rand's philosophy into practice | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
through a plan he called "The Path to Prosperity." | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
It was a budget proposal | 0:33:32 | 0:33:33 | |
that would dramatically cut government programmes for the poor | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
while handing out an even bigger tax cut for the rich. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
I think that The Path to Prosperity | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
that Chairman Ryan and his committee have put together | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
is a blueprint for America's Future. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
The Path to Prosperity passed the House of Representatives | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
in March of 2012. It now appears to be at the heart | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
of the economic philosophy of the Republican Party. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
Mitt Romney and I will take the right steps, | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
in the right time, to get us back on the right track. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
What do you think of Ryan's budget framework? | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
Oh, I think it's ridiculous on the face of it. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
He's proposing a 10 trillion tax cut | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
as part of his deficit reduction plan | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
and obviously, if you're going to cut taxes by 10 trillion, | 0:34:15 | 0:34:19 | |
you've got to cut spending by even more than 10 trillion. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
Every programme you can possibly think of, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
from roads to education to energy, | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
would be more or less abolished | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
if you're going to take seriously the numbers he has put forward. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
The idea that there's legitimate economics behind this is absurd. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:40 | |
Conservatives throughout the ages have never spoken like Paul Ryan. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:45 | |
Milton Friedman talked about a negative income tax | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
and guaranteed incomes for the poor. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
Friedrich Hayek, who was one of the acmes of free market economics, | 0:34:51 | 0:34:56 | |
talked about the need of societies to guarantee minimum standards | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
and provide health care. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
So, there's clearly an ideology involved here. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
They actually want to use tax policy to eviscerate government programmes. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:11 | |
If we try to go down the path | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
where we had put the government in the place | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
to equalise the results of peoples' lives, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
where we try to equalise outcomes, we'll all be more equally miserable. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:23 | |
CHUCKLING | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
Rather, let's focus on equality of opportunity. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:30 | |
My mom used to say to me, "Son, it don't matter where you begin, | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
"what matters is where you end. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:34 | |
"You live in the United States of America." And that's something | 0:35:34 | 0:35:38 | |
that I think is an inherently moral thing about America - | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
it gives you a chance to make it. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:42 | |
Much of what they say is about | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
providing opportunity to make money to everybody equally, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
that's what they would argue about, | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
and, um, it doesn't seem to accept the possibility | 0:35:52 | 0:35:57 | |
that if you're poor enough and your schooling is bad enough | 0:35:57 | 0:36:02 | |
that you don't really have an opportunity to compete. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
Almost everyone agrees | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
that education is the key to upward mobility. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
For people starting at the bottom of the ladder, | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
a college degree can quadruple their chances of making it to the top. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
But college is increasingly out of reach. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
The cost has gone up over 500% since 1980. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
Meanwhile, without a college degree, it's harder than ever to get a job. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:38 | |
If you only have a high school diploma, | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
there's a 7/10 chance that you don't have full-time work at all. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:45 | |
It's a cruel irony that the US economy has a desperate need | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
for skilled labour in manufacturing, hi-tech, and health industries | 0:36:50 | 0:36:54 | |
but there aren't enough qualified workers to fill those jobs. | 0:36:54 | 0:37:00 | |
Even with 12 million Americans unable to find work, | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
training and education programmes are being slashed by both parties | 0:37:03 | 0:37:07 | |
in favour of tax cuts for the rich. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
I find it hard to be an optimist right now, | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
for people whom I care about, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
and people who the Poverty Institute cares about, | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
people who want to support their families through work, and can't. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
Today, one in seven Americans receives food stamps. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
More than half of those people are children and elderly. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
41% of recipients live in working households. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
A job is no longer enough to keep Americans out of poverty. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
For the people that think, OK, they don't need anything, | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
they don't need a handout, they should just go get a job - | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
yes, as soon as they create jobs for people to get them, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
then great, I'm pretty sure they'll be there. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
There's nothing. So what do you do when there's nothing? | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
That's where the safety net comes in. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
Yet Paul Ryan's budget proposal | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
would cut the food stamp programme | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
by 134 billion dollars over the next ten years, | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
which could shred the safety net for 8 million people. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
-My name's James Salt. -Hey. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
-Oh, great! -I have a question. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
Guys, let me get to my car. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
I appreciate it, I've got some Bibles, thank you very much. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
In April 2012, the US Conference of Catholic Bishops | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
urged Congress to protect food stamps. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
Bishops suggested that if spending cuts were necessary, | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
they should be made to government subsidies | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
for rich agricultural companies, | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
instead of taking food from hungry children, poor families, | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
and vulnerable seniors. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
Our nation is approaching a tipping point. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
We're at a moment | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
where if government's growth is left unchecked and unchallenged, | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
America's best century | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
will be considered our past century. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
This is a future in which | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
we will transform our social safety net into a hammock. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
You can hear Paul Ryan talk about his hammock. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
This hammock - the average benefit in Wisconsin | 0:39:20 | 0:39:24 | |
was 246 a month last year for two people, | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
about 350 for four. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
Is that enough for you to say, | 0:39:33 | 0:39:34 | |
"Ah! Put my feet up in a hammock, you know, I got these food stamps"? | 0:39:34 | 0:39:38 | |
Feeding people is something that this country can afford to do | 0:39:38 | 0:39:43 | |
and should be able to do. That's not a hammock. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
And if you try to raise our taxes | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
and trample on our liberties, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
we're either going to beat you | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
or make your life miserable! | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
CHEERING | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
The government has been starved of funds. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
We're at about the lowest tax collection | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
as a share of national income in our modern history. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:11 | |
We can't even pay for the most basic public services right now. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:18 | |
We can't keep our schools functioning. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
We can't keep our roads intact. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
Taxes are the price you pay for civilisation. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
And if you don't pay taxes, you don't get civilisation, | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
it's as simple as that. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:33 | |
By that measure, our civilisation is in trouble. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
General Electric made 5 billion in US profits last year, | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
but claimed a 3.3 billion tax credit. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
These days, some of the nation's most profitable companies | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
are paying little or no taxes at all. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
Thanks to tax breaks, loopholes, | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
and clever accounting, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:54 | |
the tax rate corporations actually pay | 0:40:54 | 0:40:58 | |
is at an all-time low. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
The same thing is true | 0:41:00 | 0:41:01 | |
for personal income taxes, | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
especially for the ultra-rich. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
Tax rates for millionaires | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
have dropped more than 25% in the last two decades. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
And for a handful of extremely wealthy individuals at the top, | 0:41:12 | 0:41:16 | |
taxes have fallen by almost 50%. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
A big part of that dip | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
is because of the tax cuts signed into law by President George W Bush. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:27 | |
Bush slashed the capital gains rate on investments to 15% - | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
nearly half what the rate was under Ronald Reagan. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
The Republicans made all these arguments back in 2003, | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
that if we cut taxes on dividends and capital gains | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
and reduce the top tax rate on the wealthy, | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
we'll get this explosion | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
of investment and growth and jobs. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
You can look up the data for yourself | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
but I certainly don't remember any big increase in growth after 2003. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:56 | |
There was essentially no economic impact at all, | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
except that it increased the deficit. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
The Bush tax cuts have added over 2.9 trillion to the national debt. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:07 | |
Paul Ryan's proposed tax cuts | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
would add another 4.6 trillion | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
in debt over the next ten years. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
What's hard to understand | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
about this relentless push to cut taxes for the rich | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
is that they already have so much more than the rest of us. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:24 | |
In 1965, CEOs made about 20 times | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
as much as the average worker. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
Today, by the most conservative estimate, | 0:42:29 | 0:42:33 | |
that number is 231. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
So what's going on here? | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
Are CEOs getting paid more because they deserve it? | 0:42:38 | 0:42:42 | |
Meet another resident of 740 Park, | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
John Thain, the highest paid CEO in 2007. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
Thain's apartment is actually my personal favourite, | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 | |
for if I could live at 740 Park. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
It's a little tiny jewel-box duplex. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
Thain had been a senior executive at Goldman Sachs | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
and served as CEO of the New York Stock Exchange | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
before becoming the head of the investment bank Merrill Lynch. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:10 | |
In 2008, as losses were soaring and his company's stock was plummeting, | 0:43:10 | 0:43:14 | |
Thain was busy with a 1.2 million office renovation. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:19 | |
You spent more than 1 million renovating your office. Is this true? | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
It wasn't my office, it was two conference rooms | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
and it was a reception area. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:27 | |
But it is clear to me, in today's world, | 0:43:27 | 0:43:31 | |
that it was a mistake. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
I apologise for spending that money on those things. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:37 | |
While Thain was busy picking chairs, rugs and wastebaskets, | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
Merrill and the other investment banks | 0:43:41 | 0:43:43 | |
helped bring down the global economy. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:45 | |
Wall Street has been turned upside-down. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:47 | |
The collapse of one investment bank, the takeover of another... | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
29 billion to help JP Morgan... | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
85 billion dollars to bail out the insurance giant AIG... | 0:43:53 | 0:43:57 | |
Wall Street was rescued by US taxpayers, not only through bailouts | 0:43:57 | 0:44:01 | |
but also through government loans that carried virtually no interest. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
I'm confident that this rescue plan, along with other measures | 0:44:04 | 0:44:08 | |
taken by the Treasury Department and the Federal Reserve, | 0:44:08 | 0:44:11 | |
will begin to restore strength and stability | 0:44:11 | 0:44:14 | |
to America's financial system and overall economy. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:17 | |
Meanwhile, under Presidents Bush and Obama, | 0:44:17 | 0:44:20 | |
millions of middle-class American homeowners facing foreclosure | 0:44:20 | 0:44:24 | |
received only a tiny fraction of the bailouts given to wealthy bankers. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:28 | |
In the end, Merrill Lynch suffered over 27 billion in losses | 0:44:28 | 0:44:32 | |
under Thain's leadership | 0:44:32 | 0:44:34 | |
and was sold to Bank of America, | 0:44:34 | 0:44:36 | |
but that didn't stop Thain from handing out 3.6 billion | 0:44:36 | 0:44:39 | |
in performance bonuses to Merrill executives. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:43 | |
The bonuses were paid | 0:44:43 | 0:44:44 | |
even as Merrill suffered 15 billion in losses. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:48 | |
If you live in a world where everyone you know | 0:44:49 | 0:44:53 | |
is chasing huge sums of money every day, | 0:44:53 | 0:44:58 | |
and their morality is determined | 0:44:58 | 0:45:01 | |
by what it's necessary to do to get richer and richer and richer, | 0:45:01 | 0:45:05 | |
you're not going to have the same moral constructs | 0:45:05 | 0:45:09 | |
affecting your behaviour. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
When I started at 740, I was like, "This is great," you know. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
"Come around to Christmas time, | 0:45:16 | 0:45:18 | |
"I'm going to get a thousand from each resident, | 0:45:18 | 0:45:20 | |
"you know, because they are multi-billionaires." | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
But it's not that way. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:27 | |
These guys are businessmen. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:29 | |
They know what the going rate is. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:31 | |
They're not going to give you anything more than that. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:34 | |
The cheapest person overall was David Koch. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:39 | |
We would load up his trucks, | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
two vans usually, every weekend for the Hamptons. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:45 | |
You know, I mean multiple trips, | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
multiple guys, in and out, in and out, heavy bags. | 0:45:47 | 0:45:50 | |
We would never get a tip from Mr Koch. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:52 | |
We would never get a smile from Mr Koch. 50 cheque for Christmas. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:56 | |
-A cheque? -A cheque, too, yeah. | 0:45:56 | 0:45:57 | |
I mean, at least you could give us cash. | 0:45:57 | 0:46:00 | |
Just because you're rich doesn't make you smart. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:02 | |
Just because you're rich doesn't make you cultured, | 0:46:02 | 0:46:04 | |
just because you're rich doesn't make you refined. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
Being rich means you're rich. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
Some rich people are just dicks. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:13 | |
Steven Schwarzman unleashed a disgusting comparison | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
over the administration's effort to increase taxes. He said, quote, | 0:46:16 | 0:46:19 | |
In thousands of different people that we've studied across the country, | 0:46:25 | 0:46:29 | |
the more you have, the more entitled | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
and deserving of those things you feel. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:33 | |
And that might account, in part, for the vitriol | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
that you see when people feel | 0:46:36 | 0:46:38 | |
like their privileged position is being undermined by others. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:41 | |
Since when, in this country, was it OK to demonise success? | 0:46:41 | 0:46:45 | |
The free enterprise system is under attack. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:47 | |
Back to the old populist "demonise the rich." | 0:46:47 | 0:46:50 | |
The Republicans are always complaining | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
about the Democrats playing class warfare. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:55 | |
The Democratic party's going to have to stop bashing the rich. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
But they do it themselves | 0:46:58 | 0:47:00 | |
by, for example, they're always quick to point out | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
that something like half of all people | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
who file individual income tax returns | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
have either a zero or a negative tax liability. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
We have a system today in the United States | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
where 45% of Americans don't pay any income tax. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:19 | |
You have to have skin in the game. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
Over 45% of the people in this country | 0:47:22 | 0:47:24 | |
don't pay income taxes at all, | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
and we have to question whether that's fair. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:30 | |
Those are people who don't pay INCOME taxes. OK? | 0:47:30 | 0:47:34 | |
It includes all elderly women living alone | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
who just have enough social security, they don't even declare it. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:40 | |
It includes disabled people who don't have earnings, | 0:47:40 | 0:47:43 | |
but all those people pay payroll taxes, sales taxes, property taxes. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:48 | |
State and local taxes, | 0:47:48 | 0:47:49 | |
gasoline taxes, liquor taxes, | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
This is ridiculous to say low-income people don't pay taxes. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:55 | |
They do pay taxes and they pay a lot of them. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:57 | |
They've managed to take the resentment of the middle class, | 0:47:57 | 0:48:00 | |
which has actually been quite economically squeezed | 0:48:00 | 0:48:03 | |
over the last couple decades, | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
and turn their resentment against the people beneath them. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:08 | |
I think we're reaching a tipping point. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:09 | |
We're coming close to a tipping point in America, | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
where we might have a net majority of takers versus makers in society. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
It's really, you know, | 0:48:15 | 0:48:18 | |
like a magician, you know, | 0:48:18 | 0:48:19 | |
trying to point people in a different direction | 0:48:19 | 0:48:22 | |
so they won't notice what's really going on. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:25 | |
If you can take the resentment of the middle class | 0:48:25 | 0:48:27 | |
and point it downward, rather than having it point upward | 0:48:27 | 0:48:31 | |
to the people on the top of the 1% | 0:48:31 | 0:48:34 | |
who are really walking away richer than ever, | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
then you can succeed politically, | 0:48:37 | 0:48:39 | |
and I think they've been very good at that. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:41 | |
You know, the poor are not very well represented | 0:48:41 | 0:48:45 | |
in our system of government, I'm afraid. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
Why is that, do you think? | 0:48:48 | 0:48:50 | |
Well, I think one reason... | 0:48:50 | 0:48:54 | |
I think has a lot to do with the decline of the unions. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
Throughout the '30s and '40s and '50s, | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
the unions were the vanguard in pushing for social legislation | 0:49:00 | 0:49:04 | |
that would help the lower classes in general. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
Unions are perhaps the only organisations | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
with significant financial and political clout | 0:49:10 | 0:49:12 | |
that actually represent the working class. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
Since the late '70s, | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
corporate interests have been extremely successful | 0:49:17 | 0:49:19 | |
at limiting the power of unions. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:22 | |
Only public sector unions have shown signs of growth. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
And the Koch brothers have put their financial muscle | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
behind an effort to destroy them. | 0:49:28 | 0:49:30 | |
Wisconsin is ground zero. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:33 | |
I think it's going to determine, largely, whether or not | 0:49:33 | 0:49:36 | |
the pampered nature of these public employee unions is finally reined in. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:41 | |
If you, like David Koch and Charles Koch, | 0:49:41 | 0:49:43 | |
want to take over American politics, you're going to want to knock out | 0:49:43 | 0:49:47 | |
whatever the organized forces are on the other side. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:50 | |
Discharge the duties... | 0:49:50 | 0:49:51 | |
On January 3rd 2011, | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
Scott Walker became Governor of Wisconsin. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:57 | |
He had received significant financial support | 0:49:57 | 0:49:59 | |
from the Koch brothers. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:01 | |
Congratulations, Governor. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:02 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:50:02 | 0:50:04 | |
The national conservative movement wanted a Petri dish, and we were that | 0:50:04 | 0:50:08 | |
and he was more than willing to do what they wanted, | 0:50:08 | 0:50:10 | |
and not the people of Wisconsin. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:12 | |
-Good morning. -Good morning. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:14 | |
Walker quickly introduced a bill to balance the state's budget | 0:50:14 | 0:50:18 | |
but it disguised a much broader agenda. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
The Governor said, "Look, you guys got a great deal on your pension, | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
"you don't pay anything for your pension and it's a good pension | 0:50:24 | 0:50:27 | |
"so you should pay 5%." | 0:50:27 | 0:50:28 | |
Half of what the overall contribution is, | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
which is about 5.8%. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:32 | |
"OK. Compared to other places that I see? OK." | 0:50:32 | 0:50:36 | |
He said, "You should pay more for your healthcare." | 0:50:36 | 0:50:38 | |
We're asking for a healthcare premium contribution | 0:50:38 | 0:50:41 | |
of just about 12-and-a-half per cent. | 0:50:41 | 0:50:44 | |
"Eh, we got a good deal on healthcare. OK." | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
We remove healthcare | 0:50:46 | 0:50:49 | |
and pension contributions from collective bargaining. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:52 | |
Then he said, "Now we don't want any more collective bargaining." | 0:50:52 | 0:50:55 | |
We went, "Whoa, wait a minute! Stop! You can't do that!" | 0:50:55 | 0:50:58 | |
Walker's legislation was a surprise attack | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
on the political power of public sector unions | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
and their ability to negotiate on behalf of workers. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:07 | |
Take away collective bargaining and what does a person that's making, | 0:51:07 | 0:51:11 | |
let's say, 7-9 an hour | 0:51:11 | 0:51:13 | |
at University of Wisconsin Hospital serving lunch, | 0:51:13 | 0:51:15 | |
what voice will they have in the workplace? | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
Within days, the largest unions announced that they were willing | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
to make sacrifices that would help save the state money, | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
but they wouldn't give up their collective bargaining rights. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:28 | |
The unions and the Democrats have said they're willing | 0:51:28 | 0:51:31 | |
to take the concessions on wage and health benefits. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:33 | |
They're willing to take about an 8% pay cut | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
but they simply don't want you to take away | 0:51:36 | 0:51:38 | |
their collective bargaining rights. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:40 | |
What we're asking for, realistically, | 0:51:40 | 0:51:42 | |
is something that nearly every other person in this state | 0:51:42 | 0:51:45 | |
and every other person across this country's paying a lot more for | 0:51:45 | 0:51:48 | |
when it comes to retirement. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:49 | |
But they already said they're ready to give that up, Governor, | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
they already said they're willing to give up on pensions and healthcare. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:56 | |
-They've already made those concessions. -That's a red herring. | 0:51:56 | 0:51:59 | |
But you can say anything in the midst of the debate. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
Then we really knew | 0:52:02 | 0:52:04 | |
it was not about fixing a budget at all. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:06 | |
It was about breaking unions | 0:52:06 | 0:52:10 | |
and breaking the political power that unions have. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:14 | |
Governor Walker's agenda is a national agenda. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:17 | |
I mean, it's seeded and it's well funded by the Koch brothers. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:22 | |
DRUMMING, CHANTING | 0:52:24 | 0:52:27 | |
For more than a year, Wisconsin became a battleground. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:32 | |
Pro-union protesters occupied the state house for more than two weeks. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:36 | |
They gathered over a million signatures | 0:52:37 | 0:52:40 | |
to force a recall election to get Walker removed. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
The unions spent millions fighting for their survival, | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
but wealthy interests outside the state spent far more. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:50 | |
The biggest single source of money was Americans For Prosperity, | 0:52:50 | 0:52:55 | |
which has spent over 10 million to support Scott Walker. | 0:52:55 | 0:52:59 | |
Today we have more activists in our Wisconsin AFP chapter | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
than there are members of the Wisconsin Teacher's Union. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
We have a very strong, vibrant operation there. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:08 | |
Walker has painted teachers | 0:53:08 | 0:53:11 | |
and other public union employees as the haves | 0:53:11 | 0:53:16 | |
and the private sector as the have-nots. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
What they're trying to do is really squash you | 0:53:19 | 0:53:24 | |
so that they can have that much more power | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
and you can have that much less voice. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:30 | |
It's teachers whose pay has been reduced, against the Koch brothers. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:34 | |
It's not a really fair fight. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:35 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:53:35 | 0:53:38 | |
Hi, this is Scott Walker. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:40 | |
Scott. David Koch, how are you? | 0:53:40 | 0:53:43 | |
David, I'm good, and yourself? | 0:53:43 | 0:53:45 | |
I'm very well. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:46 | |
Little disheartened by the situation there, but what's the latest? | 0:53:50 | 0:53:54 | |
Well, announced Thursday, | 0:53:54 | 0:53:56 | |
and we'll probably get 5,000-6,000 state workers | 0:53:56 | 0:53:59 | |
who'll get at-risk notices for layoffs. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
Beautiful, beautiful. We've got to crush that union. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
Just got to pass the message on to these guys - | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
if they think I'm caving, they've been asleep for the last eight years | 0:54:11 | 0:54:15 | |
-cos we don't budge. -Goddamn right. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:17 | |
But uh, what we're thinking about the crowds | 0:54:17 | 0:54:21 | |
was planting some troublemakers. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:23 | |
You know... | 0:54:23 | 0:54:25 | |
we thought about that. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:29 | |
My only gut reaction to that would be, | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
let them protest all they want. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:33 | |
Sooner or later, the media stops finding them interesting. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:37 | |
The next question, I talk to Kasich every day, | 0:54:37 | 0:54:39 | |
John's got to stand firm in Ohio. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:42 | |
I think we can do the same thing with Rick Scott in Florida, | 0:54:42 | 0:54:45 | |
I think Snyder, if he got a little more support, | 0:54:45 | 0:54:47 | |
probably could do that in Michigan. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:49 | |
We start going down the list, | 0:54:49 | 0:54:51 | |
a lot of us new governors who got elected could do something big. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
You're the first domino. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:55 | |
Yup. This is our moment. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
This is our time to change the course of history. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:02 | |
PHONE HANGS UP | 0:55:02 | 0:55:04 | |
In places like Wisconsin, | 0:55:17 | 0:55:18 | |
the doors of opportunity for those on the lower rungs of society | 0:55:18 | 0:55:22 | |
are closing quickly. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:23 | |
We are in very real danger | 0:55:24 | 0:55:28 | |
that the American dream is slipping from the grasp | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
of the next generation. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:33 | |
This charity event is a moment for wealthy New Yorkers | 0:55:33 | 0:55:37 | |
to give some of their fortunes to the poor. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:40 | |
Over the last decade, Stephen Schwarzman has given over 7 million | 0:55:40 | 0:55:44 | |
to New York's Inner-City Scholarship Fund. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:47 | |
I worry that the social fabric of America | 0:55:47 | 0:55:51 | |
is being ripped purposefully | 0:55:51 | 0:55:54 | |
by people who are taking advantage of individuals who are suffering. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:59 | |
Mr Schwarzman appears to be sympathetic | 0:56:00 | 0:56:02 | |
to those who are living in poverty | 0:56:02 | 0:56:04 | |
but oddly, for one of America's greatest capitalists, | 0:56:04 | 0:56:08 | |
he doesn't seem to understand that unlike Monopoly, | 0:56:08 | 0:56:12 | |
real capitalism is a game that's played for keeps. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
For every big winner, | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
there are lots of losers. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:20 | |
Wealth is created, | 0:56:20 | 0:56:22 | |
but so is poverty. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:24 | |
Without popular democracy, | 0:56:24 | 0:56:26 | |
all the gains of our economy will go to the top. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:30 | |
Show me what democracy looks like! | 0:56:30 | 0:56:31 | |
This is what democracy looks like! | 0:56:31 | 0:56:34 | |
I'm from Michigan. This is where our money is. | 0:56:38 | 0:56:41 | |
People lost their homes in the banking and mortgage crisis, | 0:56:41 | 0:56:45 | |
and it went here. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:48 | |
There's nothing wrong with being rich. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:50 | |
God wants all his children to be rich. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:53 | |
But don't be rich | 0:56:53 | 0:56:55 | |
and at a place where you ain't thinking about anybody else. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
They feel they need, not 10 billion, | 0:56:58 | 0:57:01 | |
but 20 billion of wealth. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:03 | |
They get that extra wealth by twisting politics, | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
buying politicians. | 0:57:06 | 0:57:08 | |
America became a place where money buys everything. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:12 | |
The rich are often held up | 0:57:25 | 0:57:27 | |
as shining examples of what's possible in America, | 0:57:27 | 0:57:30 | |
proof that anyone can make it. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:32 | |
But is there still a bridge to economic opportunity in our country? | 0:57:35 | 0:57:39 | |
When we look at the river that separates the two Park Avenues, | 0:57:41 | 0:57:45 | |
do we see a channel to prosperity for everyone? | 0:57:45 | 0:57:47 | |
Or a barrier that prevents the poor from crossing? | 0:57:48 | 0:57:52 | |
As long as our political leaders | 0:57:53 | 0:57:55 | |
depend on the rich to win elections and stay in office, | 0:57:55 | 0:57:58 | |
they will write laws to protect the castles of wealth and power | 0:57:58 | 0:58:02 | |
on the other side of this river, | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
a river that has become a deep and forbidding moat. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:09 | |
Find out more about the trend of rising inequality closer to home. | 0:58:28 | 0:58:33 | |
Go to bbc.co.uk/whypoverty | 0:58:33 | 0:58:38 | |
and follow links to the Open University. | 0:58:38 | 0:58:40 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:58:52 | 0:58:54 |