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We start school, teach Mandarin Chinese for our own kids. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:25 | |
It's English school during the week, but we only use this on Sunday. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:30 | |
The Chinese are very much on their education. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
The Western parents give the kids a lot of freedom, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
and the Chinese feel that they are not ready, | 0:00:39 | 0:00:44 | |
and we have a very heavy discipline to our children as well. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
SPEAKS MANDARIN | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
That's how we been brought up. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
As a Chinese parent, you never think your child can't achieve. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
You don't think that. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
You think, "OK, they can achieve from the very beginning," | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
and then they will with hard work. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
'The Chinese are doing better at GCSE than any other | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
'ethnic group in the UK. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:09 | |
-'They achieve far more A stars.' -That's perfect. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
What's their secret? | 0:01:13 | 0:01:14 | |
'And is there a price to pay? | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
'We went back to the homes of some of the families from one London Chinese school | 0:01:16 | 0:01:21 | |
'to find out.' | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
If you want to be the best, you have to pay a lot of effort. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
Not everyone can be the best, surely? | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
But we are Chinese, we have to be. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
BELL RINGS | 0:01:36 | 0:01:37 | |
Hello, nice to meet you again. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
Nice to see you again. Which ones shall we...? | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
You're very tall, so whatever you like. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
-Do you mind Chinese knitted shoes? -That's OK. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:55 | |
What's this? | 0:01:55 | 0:01:56 | |
-The living room. -The living room. What do you normally do here? | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
-My work. -Which one is your table for work? | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
-Over there. -Yeah. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:05 | |
So, this is your... what you do every day. What's that? | 0:02:05 | 0:02:10 | |
This is your timetable... every day, yeah? | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
-Piano, Chinese writing, reading, English spelling. -How about weekends? | 0:02:13 | 0:02:19 | |
How about Sunday? Can you read for Hannah? | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
Church, maths, Chinese school lessons, garden, play, football. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:29 | |
Shower, TV cartoon, piano, contest results, dinner, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:37 | |
English spelling, maths test, bedtime. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
-That's a Sunday? -Yes, Sunday. -Wow! How old are you, Matthew? -Six. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
-That sounds like quite a lot. -He starts from five years old. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
Before five, I let him play anything he wants, but from five, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
I think we need to let him start him get some kind of routine. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:58 | |
Yeah. This is his spelling, 10 words. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
Impossible. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
Investigate. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
Instruction. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
SPEAKS MANDARIN | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
I can't! I can't concentrate with that ice cream van... | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
When ice cream van coming, he's not concentrate, he said. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
He wants to eat ice cream! | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
Invitation. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:26 | |
-Who's in charge of the household? -Her, definitely. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
He say I'm too tough, but children need to be... | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
You need to be tough, and you are too soft. If not, he won't listen to you. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
Because I know sometimes he's tired, but I say, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
"No, look, the timetable we haven't finished, you can't sleep." | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
Important, all right. Imagine, all right. Impossible, all right. Investigate. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:51 | |
Investigate, I-n-v-e-s-t-I-gate. Invest-I-gate. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:57 | |
Two wrong - you need to write again next time. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
But for him, he only do about...I think, daytime, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
I'm talking about one hour, one and a half hours' homework, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
and when come back, do may be another one and a half hour. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
So, in total, one day, only about three hours. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
So, still plenty of time to play. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
Because we think it's quite important, especially now, you know, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
life is getting tougher and tougher, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
and you need proper skills to survive in the world. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
And also England, obviously... | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
I mean, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:33 | |
England is sort of going downhill in terms of league tables | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
and pretty much everything else, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
so we need to compete with other countries as well. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
-Nathan, how was school? -It was good. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
-Do you have everything, do you have all your homework? -Yeah. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
What about the French...binder for the French oral? | 0:04:53 | 0:04:58 | |
Yeah, I've brought that home. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
-And the maths test, right? -Mm-hm. -OK. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
Well, let's go home and... | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
..get cracking. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
While Nathan's doing his piano or violin, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
Natalie is doing her homework, and then they switch. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
So do you fit anything else in after school work? | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
Not really, there's no time. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
There's only really four good hours, maybe five good hours | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
for them to get everything done. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
How do you squeeze it all in? It's really hard. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
You know what you're doing, right? | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
'Vivian's son Nathan is 10, and her daughter Natalie is 6.' | 0:05:34 | 0:05:39 | |
E minor. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
PLAYS SCALES | 0:05:41 | 0:05:42 | |
Think about it. Before you play, you have to think about what you're playing, OK? | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
And how many sharps there are | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
and where your fingers are supposed to be before you just jump into it. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
Play it like it's one movement, not jerky like that. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
'As well as homework, Vivian supervises | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
'three and a half hours' music practice each day.' | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
Do it one more time before... We got to get it right. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
PLAYS NOTES | 0:06:06 | 0:06:07 | |
Do that one again. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
PLAYS NOTES | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
Again. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
Again, do that one again. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
No. That's not right. The thumb. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
The first time I did it... | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
I know, the first time, you were OK, but it wasn't fast enough. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
Let's do it again. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
Where do you stand on praise? | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
I was having this conversation with another mother, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
and we were all talking about the Asian way of encouragement, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
taking out the really good parts and focusing on that - | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
it's either good or it's not. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
I'm from Taiwan - I'm made in Taiwan! | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
Taiwan! | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
Yes, I came England since 1998. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
I work as a facility management consultant. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
-I'm from Newcastle, originally. -Geordie. -Geordie boy. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:10 | |
(Geordie man.) | 0:07:10 | 0:07:11 | |
I look after this building. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
You can't find it? | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
I'm the caretaker of the block, and I do maintenance and gardening. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:21 | |
-Handyman work. -Handyman work. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:22 | |
-I'm going to do a quick job. -OK. -OK? -Do a quick job. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:28 | |
So what are your different roles in the house, then? | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
He does most of the cleaning, cooking, look after the children! | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
-Painting! -No, don't do that, because then her clothes will be dirty. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
Can you please put that one on properly? | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
What's it like, a Chinese Taiwanese lady married to a Geordie? | 0:07:45 | 0:07:51 | |
What are you each like? | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
-We're opposites. -Very opposite. We are so different. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
I think, to start with, Taiwanese is a bit like Chinese - | 0:07:59 | 0:08:04 | |
we're very careful about money, we don't take holiday much, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
and then, for Michael, the culture... he doesn't care too much, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
he's just thinking how much he earns, he just wants to spend it. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:19 | |
He doesn't think about saving the money. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
That's the first thing we noticed. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
He likes to go out drinking, enjoy a few drinks with his friends, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
three or four times a week. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
Three or four times a week?! | 0:08:30 | 0:08:31 | |
What about Kate? | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
She's very strict and bossy. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
Bossy?! | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
No, I have principles, let's put it that way. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
-You're a little bossy as well. -I'm not. -You're not a little bossy? | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
I'm painting. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
I think Chinese parents give more guidance and rules, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
that's definitely. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:56 | |
Parents got a little bit more ambitious, I think. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
They go and think about what they would like | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
their children to become and how they want to behave. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
Western parents, I think they tend to be a little bit more relaxed, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
let them run wild. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
-Does he do play dates? -Play dates? -I don't know what that means. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:26 | |
Playing with other children? | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
Yes, sometimes a friend come here, or he goes to his home. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
-But not too often - maybe only... -Two times a year. -Yeah. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
Tell me what that certificate is for. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
It is for taking part in his school skipping, well, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:49 | |
it's called skip-a-thon, in June 2010. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
-He skipped, apparently, how many times? -Tell Hannah - one minute, how many times? | 0:09:51 | 0:09:57 | |
128. | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
128 times? Wow! | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
Just to say... | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
Do you keep all his certificates, then? | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
Yeah! I keep them in a box, so he says this is his treasure box. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
So, when he's grown up, he can look back for what he done | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
when he was little. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
You know this spelling, one-week test? | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
Normally, he gets 10 out of 10. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
Yesterday, he got 9 out of 10. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
I know it's not too bad, but if I told him, "Oh, already very good, not too bad," | 0:10:26 | 0:10:31 | |
he will be thinking it's all right, but if I told him, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
"You have to be 10 out of 10," he will try harder next time. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:39 | |
We're both education person. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
Of course, you know, I expect my son to go to university, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:46 | |
maybe not need a Masters degree, but at least a Bachelor degree, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
doing well in his life. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
-Do you know what job you want to do, Matthew? -Dentist. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
Because I'm working for a dental place, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
and his godfather, my boss, is a dentist. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
That's why he got this idea. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
When he was little, I did ask him what you want to be, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
and he said, "I want to be a binman." | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
Binman is very fun, because every day, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
when I go to work, he's standing in the window, looking outside, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
and binman is very fun, he thought it was very interesting, good job. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
But one day, I told him binman is good, but you need to work very hard, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:22 | |
and then no sleep, very tiring, quite low pay - what do you think? | 0:11:22 | 0:11:28 | |
He said, "Hmm..." And after that, one day, I take to my boss's house. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:33 | |
He said, "Wow, your boss got big house, lots of nice car," | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
because he likes to collect little car, and he said, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
"I've changed my mind - I want to earn more money," | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
so he says he wants to be a dentist. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
And you know, dentists need to have a good study, Yeah? | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
-What are beginning to draw now? -A peacock. -A peacock? -Yeah. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
-Looks like she might be arty. -Will that be odd to you? -Oh...! | 0:11:56 | 0:12:02 | |
Well, artists don't make that much money, isn't it? | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
Most of the time, they get famous after they are, you know, no longer exist. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:12 | |
-Well, it doesn't matter. -What do you imagine for Juliette? -As in a job? | 0:12:15 | 0:12:20 | |
-Yeah. -When she grows older? -Lawyer, doctor. No. -No. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:27 | |
Actually, one of the jobs I want her to do, and Michael says no, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:34 | |
I want her to be a dentist. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
It's OK, you're still a doctor, you earn good money. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
To be honest, I'm not really that bothered what she does. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:44 | |
You see, that's what's different. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
I got a view on what she supposed to be, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
but regardless on what she becomes or not, it's up to her. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
-As long as she's happy. -That's OK. -And not too stressed. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
And she has a happy life. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:56 | |
But, you see, that's the other thing...I don't think stress is wrong, as well. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:03 | |
I think in every single life, you need a bit of stress, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
a lot of pressure, then you can progress better. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
Otherwise... I said to Michael, otherwise, we are still apes. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
-Yes, switch on. About five to five. -What are you doing now? | 0:13:16 | 0:13:21 | |
Watch Arsenal game. Watch Arsenal - my favourite moment of our week. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:26 | |
Weekday, Matthew, number one. Saturday, Sunday, Arsenal. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
Now I am nervous! With my Arsenal blanket. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:34 | |
They're just about to start. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
Arsenal never give up. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
It's my passion, you know? | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
-They don't win. -I know they don't win, but what can you do? | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
At least, you know... | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
PLAYS PIANO | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
Yes, I was born in Taiwan. My parents moved to Canada | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
because they thought that it would be a better life for us. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
More opportunity, better education...in their minds. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:10 | |
It was five of us in a one-bedroom apartment. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
They started off with a convenience store and then... | 0:14:14 | 0:14:19 | |
-They had a flower shop. -They had a flower shop. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
They gave up a lot for us, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
and so, there's a bit of guilt that, you know, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
as children, we carry around with us and we want to do our best, | 0:14:28 | 0:14:35 | |
so we feel that what they sacrificed was worthwhile for them. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
I think the reason why, often, I push our children to do well | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
at certain things is because, if they do well at it, | 0:14:47 | 0:14:52 | |
I feel they'll be confident. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
It's the process of learning it, I think is really important. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
It's a good discipline. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
It teaches them that if they practise, if they work hard, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
they can really achieve something really beautiful and wonderful. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
You sure? | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
Yeah, that he's professional, you know? | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
So, they asked us to call you - you are naughty. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
No, he's professional, it's a one fixed price. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
That's for your health - it's not for clothes or shoes. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
Once you've seen doctor, you won't see him for many years. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
Yeah. You have to listen to us, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
it's 90 minutes. One hour is £200. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
Yeah, you are joking, you are coming, yeah? | 0:16:10 | 0:16:15 | |
Don't let me down. You're joking! | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
TALKS MANDARIN | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
-So I introduce my boss, Mr Lee. -Hi, there. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
-Hello, Mr Lee, nice to meet you. -Hello. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
So, you've had Sally working with you for ages? | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
Yes, since '93, so 18 years ago. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
Wow. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:34 | |
She started to work here, full-time, and, yeah, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
she's been very good. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
What did you study, Sally? | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
I studied in Canton. It's one quite famous university - Jinan University. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:49 | |
Actually, my character is, I quite like talking, I like writing, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
I want to be a writer, or TV reporter, like you. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
I like to meet people, to chat, | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
always talking to everyone, all the time. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
-Why didn't you do that? -It's my parents' fault. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
That's why, my parents said, in order to have a good job, | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
you need to be an accountant. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:10 | |
Accountant - everywhere needs accountants. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
So, it's not really my wish, and plus, my maths is horrible. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
My parents said, "You have to be an accountant." | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
I've studied for four years - waste! | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
Why did you come to England? | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
To study accountancy, because that's... Actually, I never... | 0:17:38 | 0:17:43 | |
it's not something I... | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
I never wanted to become an accountant. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
I didn't know what to do, actually. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
And my uncle recommended to me, "Why don't you go and study abroad? | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
"Cos your maths is quite good, maybe suggest accountancy." | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
My dad came to Mauritius from China when he was quite young, | 0:17:58 | 0:18:03 | |
and he's had a shop. It's like a corner shop, really. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
My family are quite poor, you see, | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
and couldn't afford to go to three years' university. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
Accountancy is a good thing - you only needed one year. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
-So, you got forced to study accountancy? -I know. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
And I was an accountant for two years. But every time, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
when I look at the numbers in the computer, I always feel a headache. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
Do you know, last week, Hannah came to my house. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
Matthew said, "I want to be a dentist, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
"because I want to earn as much money as I can!" | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
So he has changed his mind. He was going to be an accountant. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
-Shall I give you this first? -Your last week's work was very, very good Matthew. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:55 | |
Did you notice how well you did them last week? You see... | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
-Lots of mistakes last time! -No, that's absolutely fine. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
That's good, that's good. Every day, it's better. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
So, that's your maths, and that's your English. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
My friend recommend to me, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
she said all her friends or children all joined this centre, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
and it improved their study well. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
Because in state school, they don't have homework every single day, | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
so it's good to give children some kind of work and routine. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
My parents always brainwashed us, we have two study hard. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:38 | |
They are teachers in China, they are very strict. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
I thought it was quite normal to obey parents | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
and to do what whatever they asked me to do. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
When I was six, my dad asked somebody to make a small violin for me, | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
and then he even buy us a brand-new piano. 30 years ago, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:58 | |
one piano maybe cost them over one year's wages, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:03 | |
but they say they don't mind, they just sacrificed everything for us. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
This is...look, my timetable. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
I didn't know... You want to see? | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
I didn't notice that earlier. 5.15, and I need to read one hour English. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:21 | |
And then study, go to school, 7.20. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
Dinner, 6 to 6.30, and study from 7 to 10 o'clock. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:30 | |
-Hi, Sally. -Hello. How was Matthew today? | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
Well, he did pretty well, but I noticed | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
he still seems to forget how to carry forward. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
-OK, thank you. -I shall see you... -Next week, yeah. -Take care. Bye! | 0:20:49 | 0:20:55 | |
Goodbye! Thank you. See you next week. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
Matthew... | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
You found it more difficult than last week? | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
You need to practise more. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
B is no good! Yeah, two Bs. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
'Kate and Michael have brought their daughter Juliette over to visit her mother in Taiwan.' | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
We are going to the temple... to the right. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
When you come to the temple, you have to bring food, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
to pray, like a present to the gods. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
There's a god of study, a god of books. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
I was thinking, maybe I should do something like that for Juliette, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
because she hasn't got into school yet. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
Pray for her to get into a good school | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
and she can have good exam results. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
-Is that a burger? -Ju-Ju? Ju-Ju? | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
My mum, me. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
It's not like me. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
My mum's really good - when we started school... | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
every day - check. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
Checked my progress. Give feedback. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
Yeah, random checks. Random exams at home. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
-Really? -Yeah. I remember. I know that. -From what age? | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
About five. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:49 | |
She made sure we all studied so all three of us got Masters degrees. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:55 | |
Did your parents expect anything like...? | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
They expected you to go to school and come back from school. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
That was just the way parents were. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:03 | |
-Did your parents ever check your homework? -No. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
I probably didn't do my homework. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
My mum disagreed. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
When she go to school, she come back, I would check her homework, make sure everything's done. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
I'd never let her go to school to say, "I haven't done my maths or English." | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
-I'm not going to do anything! -You're not doing anything? | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
Well, then you're going to naughty chair all night. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:27 | |
I'll be testing you, Juliette, I'll be testing you. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
Just like Mummy got tested when she was little. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
-Can you show your room quickly? -MY room? Oh, no! | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
-Your room from when you were little, yeah? -No, no, no. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
Nothing's changed. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
No! | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
Come and see. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
Pictures of Kate? | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
What was it you liked about Kate when you met her? | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
Quite a lot, really. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
-What kind of stuff? -Er... | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
-Asking us the wrong question now. -What? | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
I just asked Michael what he liked about you when you met. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
-This was what she looked like. -No! Really? -That's how I remember you. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
Really? | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
-Were you allowed to have boyfriends when you were...? -No. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
Never let me have boyfriends. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
Never ever. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:22 | |
-Really? -Yeah, never. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
Because the parents want you to study and not get distracted | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
with boy-, girlfriend business. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
When was this taken? | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
Just a few years ago. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
THEY LAUGH No. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
You don't look that strait-laced and studious there. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:43 | |
Were you a rebel? | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
I'm the... | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
I'm the difficult, different one in the family. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
Really? | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
Yeah. Cos I'm more outgoing compared to... | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
I'm not traditional, like very Chinese. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
Parents expected girls to be very quiet and not allowed to talk a lot. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:06 | |
-What's the matter? -So will you expect that of Juliette, do you think? | 0:25:06 | 0:25:11 | |
Are you going back to your roots, or will you let her be a rebel like you were? | 0:25:11 | 0:25:16 | |
I think I'll let her do whatever she... | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
She has to become who she is, so it doesn't matter. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
-She will be a good little girl. -She's fibbing a bit now. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
-You mean, she'll have a bit more say in it? -Yeah. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
I don't think she's going to let Juliette be a bit of a rebel. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
What do you mean?! | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
-Would you? -Yeah. Probably. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
Do your science. OK, go downstairs, let's go. BABY WHINES | 0:25:42 | 0:25:48 | |
We're just doing last-minute science homework before we leave, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
rushing through it. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:53 | |
Vivian is taking Nathan to the Royal Festival Hall, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
to see a performance by the world-famous Chinese pianist, Lang Lang. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:04 | |
Lang Lang had a notoriously tough upbringing. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
I think Lang Lang is such a wonderful role model, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
and I think he's great at inspiring young individuals, | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
because he's not only about being a fantastic performer, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
he's about hard work, he's about having failed | 0:26:21 | 0:26:26 | |
but continue and succeeded afterwards. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
-Why, what happened? -He went to the Beijing Music Academy. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:37 | |
The teacher there "fired him", and told him he had no talent, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
so his dad shouted at him, "Your life is over, | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
"you might as well just kill yourself, because you've nothing to live for!" | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
They both had to hang in there - and look at him now. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
He's playful, he's... you know, a solid individual. | 0:26:54 | 0:27:01 | |
-Is it a common thing for him to be out like this? -No. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:11 | |
-I never actually go out on... -Not on weekdays. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:16 | |
As soon as we get home, it's music, it's homework, and...eating, bath... | 0:27:16 | 0:27:23 | |
-and then sleeping, right? -Is that right? -Mm-hm. -Which is the best bit of all those? | 0:27:23 | 0:27:28 | |
Er, I'm not sure... Going to sleep! | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
How do you feel when your head finally hits the pillow? | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
-Oh... I feel relaxed. -Do you wind down easily? | 0:27:35 | 0:27:41 | |
Not really. I don't usually fall asleep that fast. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:46 | |
But when I'm asleep, I don't usually wake up. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
-Woo-hoo! -Come in. -Hi! -How are you? He's a big fan! | 0:28:17 | 0:28:23 | |
-What are you playing now? -I'm doing Grade 6 right now. -On the piano. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:28 | |
-Really? Grade 6? And violin also? -Yeah! -Oh, my God. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:34 | |
So he has a very important question he wants to ask you. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
It's a constant debate between us two. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
How much do you practise a day? | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
It depends how old you are. When I was eight, I practised eight hours. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
And now I'm getting older, I only practise two hours. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
But today I did, like, four hours since I was playing. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
-How old are you? -Ten. -So ten hours. No, I'm only joking! | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
-I'm just trying to scare you. -That is scary. -Four hours. -Four hours? OK. See? | 0:28:58 | 0:29:06 | |
-You practise two hours, not too bad. -One more - three is OK! -Three! | 0:29:06 | 0:29:12 | |
When it gets tough, when you're really working and you're practising | 0:29:15 | 0:29:20 | |
and homework, do you ever doubt your approach and wonder is it worth it? | 0:29:20 | 0:29:26 | |
I never doubt because it's hard work, | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
because I think it's going to be hard work. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
I doubt when I think my children are unhappy. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
Like, if...if I'm pushing them and I say, "Do it again, do it again!" | 0:29:35 | 0:29:40 | |
and they say, "I can't do it!" and they start crying, then I doubt. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:45 | |
I think, "OK, am I hurting them emotionally somehow?" | 0:29:45 | 0:29:51 | |
That's when I doubt. But then, I think they can do it. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:58 | |
And I think, they're going to be able to do it. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:03 | |
If they just work hard, if they just do it one more time. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
And I can't let them stop until they do it, | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
because then they'll learn to give up in the middle of things. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:14 | |
So I push them until they actually do it properly. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:18 | |
It doesn't have to be 100%, | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
as long as, in their minds, they think they've done it. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
Amazing guy. He's very nice. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
-Gave you good advice. Three hours! -Yeah! | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
I wouldn't have the time. If I did that... | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
Learning the piano is going to be really difficult. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
-Yeah. I'd stay up until 11 o'clock at night if I did three hours. -True. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:44 | |
Maybe when you're 12, you could do three hours. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:30:47 | 0:30:48 | |
You're going to have to practise to be like him. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
How would you find it if one of them found it hard to achieve? | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
As a Chinese parent, you never think your child can't achieve. | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
You don't think that. You think, "OK, they can achieve," from the very beginning, | 0:31:00 | 0:31:05 | |
and then they will, with hard work. And that's what's going to happen. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
And if it doesn't happen, it's because they just weren't interested in that area, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
we find what they ARE interested in and they're interested in something else. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:18 | |
And they'll achieve it that. And they do. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
Now it is 4.35 in the morning. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
We are in Luton airport, we are off to Montpellier. Matthew is very happy, | 0:31:28 | 0:31:35 | |
because yesterday he won a competition of skipping. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
So two years in a row, you are number one. And he bring the gold medal with him. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:44 | |
-Really? -He will show you. -Cool! | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
-Not more medals! -Yes! He told me number one is the gold! | 0:31:47 | 0:31:53 | |
The plan is to, once we've landed, we'll find out where things are. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:57 | |
And then we're going on an excursion in the afternoon, | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
to visit a little village just to the north of Montpellier. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:08 | |
-Straight after you've got up at three in the morning? -In the afternoon, yeah. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:13 | |
We won't waste time, because we only have 5 and a half days. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
Very old houses. Matthew... | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
Where we are, I don't know. I don't know. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
-He is complaining of hot already. -You hitted me on my head. -When? | 0:32:41 | 0:32:47 | |
-Like this. -When? -Just now. -Sorry. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:52 | |
OK. I need to...move over. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
Does somebody live there? No-one. It's empty. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:04 | |
-It's so hot. -It's not hot. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
You say you want to go on holiday, now you complain. Oh, dear. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:13 | |
He's bored, he says we are too slow. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
It's not a competition. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
Stop stopping, I said. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
-Bad temper. -Bad temper. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
-Look at this church, look. -Yeah. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
Where are you, Matthew? | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
When you go on holiday, he say...not need a timetable... | 0:33:34 | 0:33:40 | |
It's a break from all his studies. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
-He wish every day is a holiday, he said. -Is it a break from his studies? | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
-Yeah. -Slightly. -But he needs to do homework every single day, still. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:52 | |
-Sometimes I feel sorry for him. -Do you? -Yeah. It's true. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:57 | |
Once a week, I definitely lose temper with him. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
Because sometimes he's tired. He said, "I want to have a break today, I'm tired." | 0:34:01 | 0:34:05 | |
I say, "No, you haven't done this, you haven't done this. You have to sit down with me." | 0:34:05 | 0:34:10 | |
He gets upset, sometimes even cries. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
But I say, "You have to do it." But afterwards... | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
-How are you? Do you feel the same? -He says I'm too cruel to him. -Me? | 0:34:15 | 0:34:20 | |
-Sometimes I think she pushes too hard. -Yeah, but you need to be hard. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:26 | |
-Sometimes he ends up crying. -Even when he cries, I say, "No, you can't go upstairs." | 0:34:26 | 0:34:31 | |
Something she gets angry and takes it out on me! | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
-I say, "What's the point?" -Because I'm angry. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:38 | |
-Because every day, he doesn't do anything, he just watches TV. -Of course. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
-I need to teach him everything. -That's why I try to go away. I go and watch TV upstairs. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:48 | |
-But I'm tired too, I'm working. -Of course I understand. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:53 | |
I wasn't brought up strictly at all. I was the opposite. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
My parents just let me do whatever. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
-And you turned out all right. -Yeah, I mean, when I did my... -He's lucky. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:04 | |
How many children are lucky, that don't study and go to university? | 0:35:04 | 0:35:09 | |
-I don't believe that. -That's true. -His character, he's very quiet. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:13 | |
Because you were born many years ago, you are quiet. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
But in this day, so many TV, so many games. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
-A lot more distractions now, of course. -They don't want to study, they want to play and watch TV. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
You need to teach them a bit of discipline. Not very strict, but you know what I mean. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:29 | |
You have to understand how to organise their time | 0:35:29 | 0:35:33 | |
and be disciplined. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
Without discipline, what can you achieve? | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
Finished? Let me check. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
This one is fine. This one is fine. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
Oh, this one is wrong. This one is wrong. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
No, this is wrong. Be careful. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
We don't want things wrong. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
Wow! That's funny. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:10 | |
-SQUEALS -Be quiet! -Oh, my God. -Oh, yeah. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:15 | |
Watch me, watch me! Matthew, watch me! | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
-He's a clever horse, look! -Yeah! | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
Did you have much fun when you were a child? | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
No, because we were not allowed to go on any holidays. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
They said holidays are a waste of time. So he's lucky. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
He's already been to many countries, many places. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:47 | |
I always envied the other children who had a lot of freedom. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
When I was young, I was angry about that. And that's why I ran away from all my family. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
After university, I told myself, I'm not going home. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
Even after I was a student, I still needed to write a diary | 0:37:05 | 0:37:09 | |
every single day, and I needed to send it back to my parents. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:13 | |
When I was at university, I wrote two diaries - one for my mum, one for myself. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
-Have you got them there? -Yeah, I've got them. -Did you have boyfriends? | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
-Yeah. I had a lot of boyfriends! -Where you allowed? -No! | 0:37:21 | 0:37:26 | |
When I was at home, not allowed, but after university, my mum didn't know. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:31 | |
-Yeah. When I was 18, I said I had my first boyfriend. -How was that? | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
It was good. Because I never had anyone before. I was quite lonely. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:43 | |
Now I felt someone looked after me well, and kind to me. I'm so happy. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:49 | |
To be honest, I didn't have a very happy childhood. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
Every day was like prison for me, I think at the time. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
-Do you worry that Matthew doesn't get enough time playing? -No. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:04 | |
I'm very relaxed about his time playing. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
He gets a lot of time playing already. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
That's why he doesn't like me too much, he likes his dad, | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
because Dad doesn't ask him to do whatever. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
I don't think he hates me. I don't know. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
Do you ever worry, though, that he might start to rebel against you? | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
A little bit worried. Because he's still quite a young age. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:30 | |
I was raised up by my grandparents from when I was born up to age two. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
And that's when I came to the rice field. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
I can't imagine I would live this kind of life, | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
so I can understand why my parents got out of this kind of living style. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:57 | |
It's too hard. Imagine some things in the weather, and also things happen. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:03 | |
They probably won't even harvest the rice twice a year. So it means the whole family will starve. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:09 | |
It influenced my mum, because my mum told me I don't want to work as a farmer, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:16 | |
to make sure we study hard. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
So, obviously, when we were kids, we missed out a bit more of fun time. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:27 | |
But I don't feel regret, because, in a way, I gained more. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:32 | |
What's your favourite thing to be doing with Juliette when you come here? | 0:39:34 | 0:39:39 | |
Probably swimming and... | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
..I just generally get more time to play with her. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
-Do you do a lot of playing with her? -Yeah, all the time. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
When you became a parent, did you know what to expect...? | 0:39:49 | 0:39:54 | |
-No, it was all a learning process. -Really? -Yeah. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
-I think it is with every parent, isn't it? -How have you found it? | 0:39:57 | 0:40:01 | |
Better or worse than you expected? | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
Definitely better than I expected. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
I didn't want children for a long time. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
But then... it just changes things, doesn't it? | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
You see a different aspect of life. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
What was it particularly that you've liked that you didn't expect? | 0:40:19 | 0:40:24 | |
More emotional feelings. Just love towards your child, I suppose. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:32 | |
You smile more. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
It's just a good feeling. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
When I came to England and met my husband, Michael, | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
we talked about our childhood and realised he had loads of fun times, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
he had loads of riding a bike and didn't spend much time doing homework. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:53 | |
I want her to have a little bit more childhood than I had. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
But I want her to be aware you can't just play. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:03 | |
You need to work hard and study hard. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
It's reality. Here, in Taiwan, we don't have a safety net. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:12 | |
Literally, you have to work hard, save money, and prepare for one day | 0:41:12 | 0:41:18 | |
when you won't be able to work any more, and you don't know when. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:23 | |
You don't know what things will happen. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
But in England, it's different. That makes lots of difference. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:30 | |
I think that's why we have more drive, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
because we need to make sure, we need to make sure we still have a life. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:38 | |
You see, living in a western country, you see the other western parents and how they do things. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:44 | |
Especially when the dad's English, it's difficult. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
It's difficult to balance between... | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
but I'm pretty sure Michael agrees with me with certain elements. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
To be a tiger mum, there's nothing wrong about it. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
It's to prepare for the future. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
Because no pain, no gain. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:02 | |
What do you think of doing all this work? | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
-Hard. -Is it? | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
-How do you feel when you're sitting here doing the work? -Tired. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:23 | |
-There's this times table thing. And Chinese and the diary. -Diary? | 0:42:23 | 0:42:30 | |
-You do a diary? -Yeah. -Can you tell me what you've written in it yesterday? | 0:42:30 | 0:42:35 | |
Let's see what you've written. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
-What's in that one? -"My mum doesn't have good enough manners. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:47 | |
"She always shouts at me, 'Do your homework!' " | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
Who did the red pen on that page? | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
My mum. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:56 | |
Cos I didn't know how to spell "manners". | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
Today is Matthew's birthday. The family have planned | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
a special outing for the evening. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
Hello, Matthew. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:10 | |
Are you ready to go? Are you excited? | 0:43:12 | 0:43:16 | |
-Have you opened your presents yet? -No. -You haven't? | 0:43:16 | 0:43:19 | |
-Have you done your homework, Matthew, today? -Yeah. -All done? -Yes. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:27 | |
But they're not done. Oh, they are all done. All right. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:33 | |
What were you like as a child? | 0:43:33 | 0:43:35 | |
I remember I lacked a lot of confidence. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
I had a very low self-esteem, that's all I remember. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
'I remember struggling at school, because I couldn't understand what the teacher was telling me.' | 0:43:43 | 0:43:48 | |
Good, good. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:50 | |
I remember, one day, the teacher sort of asked me | 0:43:50 | 0:43:55 | |
to come in front of the class and he made fun out of me. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:58 | |
That was really embarrassing. I remember this day very well. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
So I don't want him to go through these kind of things again. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:05 | |
So I try to help him as much as I can. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
Yeah, very good. Only one mistake, that's good. Much better than before. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:13 | |
So he didn't skip a day for his birthday, with his homework? | 0:44:13 | 0:44:17 | |
No, you have to do it every day, don't you? | 0:44:17 | 0:44:21 | |
Sometimes, when you go on holiday, you do two or three in one day. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:25 | |
And then you can have the other day off. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:27 | |
I know you're not supposed to do that, but... | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
Sometimes, when you go on holiday, you go out and you don't come back until late. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:35 | |
-There's no time to do the homework. -There are the neighbours. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:38 | |
Yeah. The two little girls. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:40 | |
-Do you play with them? -Sometimes. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:44 | |
Have you met them recently? Those two little girls. Where? Over the fence? | 0:44:44 | 0:44:50 | |
-Yeah. -You talked to her today? -Yeah. No. -When was the last time? | 0:44:50 | 0:44:54 | |
-On the weekend. -Oh, weekend. What, last weekend? -Yeah. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:59 | |
-Yeah, sometimes, he just talks to them. -Once, I went to their house. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:04 | |
-You went to their house? -Yeah. -Who took you there? | 0:45:04 | 0:45:08 | |
Mummy said... My mum said... | 0:45:08 | 0:45:10 | |
-Mummy said. -When? When did you go to their house? | 0:45:10 | 0:45:14 | |
-I forgot. -You forgot. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:16 | |
Why, would he not normally do something like that? | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
No. I mean, I know he went into their garden once, but not in their house. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:23 | |
-I went into their house. -Into their house as well? Oh, OK. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:28 | |
-What have you done today? -Chinese. -Chinese. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
How many mistakes? Did Daddy already check your work? How many mistakes? | 0:45:35 | 0:45:40 | |
-One. -One! There should be no mistakes. One? | 0:45:40 | 0:45:45 | |
-OK, have you opened your presents? -No. -The big one is from your father. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:51 | |
-Your best friend. -Toa. -Toa. Yeah, your role model. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:55 | |
Both of them fighting for number one space in school. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
A new Transformers. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
-Transformers. > -I know that. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:05 | |
Do you see yourself in Matthew? | 0:46:05 | 0:46:07 | |
-Do I see myself in Matthew? Erm... -In how he is? | 0:46:07 | 0:46:11 | |
Mm... It's, erm... No, he's erm... He's... | 0:46:11 | 0:46:17 | |
I'm... I was much shyer than him, you know. Erm... | 0:46:17 | 0:46:23 | |
I don't know, it's just the way things were. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:26 | |
Is it nice to see him not as shy as you were? Do you like that? | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
Yeah, I think so, because these days, you need social skills, | 0:46:32 | 0:46:35 | |
emotional intelligence, which I've read about, so it's quite important. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:40 | |
Otherwise, you struggle in life if you can't get on with all the people. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:45 | |
You do need that, and this is something I think my parents never sort of... | 0:46:45 | 0:46:50 | |
er, taught me, really. I mean, I'd don't blame them. Things were what they were. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:56 | |
They didn't know anything apart from working hard to put food on the table. | 0:46:56 | 0:47:01 | |
For me, I was too much into my own world. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:03 | |
I didn't know the outside world at all. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
I didn't know how to communicate with people outside. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:09 | |
I was a very quiet person. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:11 | |
I still am, in many ways, but I understand now how the world works. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:18 | |
So, yeah, I want him to have a broader horizon. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
'It's quite important, I think. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
'Hopefully, he will be much more confident than me.' | 0:47:23 | 0:47:26 | |
Better not come here! | 0:47:26 | 0:47:29 | |
Did you expect to meet someone as lively and extrovert as Sally is? | 0:47:34 | 0:47:39 | |
No, not really, no. I wasn't expecting anything, you know. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:45 | |
But, yeah, when I met her, I thought, "Yeah, she's a nice person." | 0:47:45 | 0:47:51 | |
It's not her academic qualifications, | 0:47:51 | 0:47:54 | |
more her social skills that sort of stand out, you know. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:59 | |
-All those years of education. -Education, yeah. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
I wouldn't say it's gone down the drain, but, actually, her skill is her talking, I suppose. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:07 | |
-Yeah. -It's her social skills. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:11 | |
THEY SPEAK MANDARIN | 0:48:14 | 0:48:18 | |
Does that make you wonder about the virtue of pushing kids academically? | 0:48:18 | 0:48:22 | |
Yeah, I think so. There's only so much you can push a child, isn't it? | 0:48:22 | 0:48:28 | |
Let's go! | 0:48:34 | 0:48:36 | |
Juliette! Juliette! | 0:48:40 | 0:48:42 | |
-So, what's the news? -What's the news? Juliette! -What news? | 0:48:42 | 0:48:48 | |
-You got big school. -I got big school! | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
-You're going to the school, aren't you? -Yes! big school, big school. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:55 | |
-Big school! -Yes, that is good news. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:58 | |
We came back from Taiwan and we had the neighbours check the post. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:02 | |
-Yeah, the whole month. -And the day after we get back, it was in the post. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:08 | |
-How strange is that? -We were quite worried. -Mummy, I'm nearly grown up. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:13 | |
I'm nearly four. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:15 | |
She's ready to learn, academically. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:18 | |
When you go to Taiwan and you see other kids of a certain age | 0:49:18 | 0:49:22 | |
already can do maths, reading, that sort of stuff, which is not | 0:49:22 | 0:49:26 | |
that much different to her age, it made me think, she's capable. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:31 | |
And plus, I think it's quite important that we start to let her | 0:49:31 | 0:49:35 | |
to explore music lessons or tennis lessons. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:39 | |
I want her to do at least one musical instrument, | 0:49:39 | 0:49:43 | |
one class a week, and Chinese, yeah? | 0:49:43 | 0:49:47 | |
-And one sport. I want her to start in September. -I think it's a bit early, to be honest. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:53 | |
No! I learned piano when I was three. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
I could read by three. Already. | 0:49:56 | 0:50:01 | |
I think it's really slow for her, compared to what I used to do. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:05 | |
Hi, there. This is Vivian, Nathan's mother. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:10 | |
I just wanted to schedule an appointment with the headmaster | 0:50:10 | 0:50:13 | |
to discuss about schools for Nathan. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:18 | |
You know, he does well in school at the moment. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:22 | |
Two good schools for Nathan might be Westminster, Eton. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:28 | |
We went to see the schools, we loved it. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:32 | |
And they have just all the right things that Nathan would love. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:37 | |
So, for the test Nathan has, | 0:50:37 | 0:50:40 | |
I take all his notes and I actually create a practice test for him | 0:50:40 | 0:50:44 | |
so he can do it, write it out over and over again. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
This one was 14 pages. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:49 | |
He must be quite well prepared, academically. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:53 | |
I think he is. But you can always do more, right? | 0:50:53 | 0:50:57 | |
You can't be too sure. | 0:50:57 | 0:51:00 | |
I mean, everybody else is preparing for it. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:04 | |
There's the first page... | 0:51:04 | 0:51:05 | |
It IS stressful. I think we just work on that stress level. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:10 | |
One of the things is that someone might say, watching, they might say, | 0:51:10 | 0:51:15 | |
"Why not just let them be happy and you'll be happy cos you'll just be relaxing?" | 0:51:15 | 0:51:20 | |
But will they be really happy, | 0:51:20 | 0:51:22 | |
doing nothing? | 0:51:22 | 0:51:24 | |
OK, let them watch TV, because they think they want to watch TV the whole day. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:28 | |
I mean, that's what happened with me one summer, and I was bored. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:31 | |
I kept thinking, "This is not happiness!" | 0:51:31 | 0:51:35 | |
Basically, I don't really know what that means, | 0:51:35 | 0:51:39 | |
when you say, "Why can't you just let them be happy?" | 0:51:39 | 0:51:42 | |
If you give me a specific example... | 0:51:42 | 0:51:46 | |
I suppose... | 0:51:46 | 0:51:49 | |
Being romantic with some guy, like, you're a teenager | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
and you're having... You're going on dates with some guy, initial romantic phase, | 0:51:52 | 0:51:57 | |
honeymoon, that's what they say, the honeymoon phase of a relationship, well, | 0:51:57 | 0:52:01 | |
OK, you're happy all the time for that week or that month. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:06 | |
But then you've got to get down to reality. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:10 | |
There's lots of stuff to do, and everybody has to work, right? | 0:52:10 | 0:52:15 | |
SHE SPEAKS MANDARIN | 0:52:18 | 0:52:22 | |
-..England flag, no? -Boring. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:24 | |
When he's doing a lot of good things, maybe once a month, | 0:52:24 | 0:52:28 | |
he can get one car. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:29 | |
But I tend not to spoil him too much. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
They have to know, in your life, nothing is granted for free. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:38 | |
-Tell Hannah, yesterday, who is number one in the class? -Me. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:42 | |
Yeah? How many points you got? | 0:52:42 | 0:52:44 | |
-25. -25 points? -Altogether. -Altogether? | 0:52:44 | 0:52:48 | |
So, now, you are number one, yeah? | 0:52:48 | 0:52:50 | |
Who wants to be number one - you or him? | 0:52:51 | 0:52:56 | |
-Who? Me, Mummy? -You! | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
-Yeah? But how about you? You don't want number one? -No. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:03 | |
I like second. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:05 | |
-Oh, my God! -Like Arsenal. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:07 | |
Do you understand why some people in England would think, | 0:53:07 | 0:53:11 | |
wow, a Chinese upbringing is mad? | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
Mmm, for me, I get used to... | 0:53:14 | 0:53:17 | |
But I think, in these days, China's children are still the same. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:21 | |
Chinese people get used to it. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:23 | |
We get used to hard working, study hard. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:27 | |
For me, I think it is built in. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:29 | |
Once you get used to it, you don't feel it too hard. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:33 | |
In my parent's dictionary, you have to use 99% of your time to study, | 0:53:33 | 0:53:37 | |
1% time to enjoy your life and play less. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:41 | |
-That's what they believe. -Do you? | 0:53:41 | 0:53:44 | |
For me, maybe I would believe 80% study hard, 20% play. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:50 | |
How about 50% working, | 0:53:50 | 0:53:53 | |
50% enjoying? | 0:53:53 | 0:53:56 | |
Mmm, I don't believe that. If you want... | 0:53:56 | 0:53:59 | |
We have to say, if you want to be number one, or you want to be the best, | 0:53:59 | 0:54:04 | |
you have two pay a lot of effort. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:07 | |
-You can't be lazy. -Not everyone can be the best, surely? -But we are Chinese, we have to be. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:12 | |
Help me, help me. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:17 | |
At the Chinese Sunday School, | 0:54:17 | 0:54:19 | |
it's time for the Dragon Boat Festival, | 0:54:19 | 0:54:21 | |
a chance for all the families whose children attend Mandarin lessons to get together. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:28 | |
We are originally from Poland. We arrived in the UK six years ago. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:32 | |
She eagerly attends all the classes, | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
and we also do some private lessons as well, just to speed up the process. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:40 | |
It was first my wife's idea, | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
knowing that Chinese has a large impact on the world, | 0:54:43 | 0:54:47 | |
in all aspects, at the moment. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:49 | |
They convert to Chinese. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:51 | |
We are from India, originally. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:53 | |
So, for about six months now, he has been learning Chinese. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
He's got a typing competition today at 12.30 and he's been practising hard for that. | 0:54:56 | 0:55:00 | |
So, he's been practising typing in what language? | 0:55:00 | 0:55:03 | |
-In Chinese and Mandarin. -Wow! -Yeah. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:06 | |
We're both from the UK. And looking at the way the global economy was going | 0:55:06 | 0:55:12 | |
and thinking, actually, Chinese is a really good language to learn. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:16 | |
There's not many British people in the school. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:19 | |
No, not at all. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:20 | |
England and, to a certain extent, a lot of Western Europe | 0:55:20 | 0:55:24 | |
have a belief that they have run the world economy for 200 odd years and therefore, | 0:55:24 | 0:55:29 | |
they and the Americans will continue to do so. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:32 | |
There's an energy and a drive. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:34 | |
You see this from the Chinese style of parenting, and I think it sets them up very well for the future. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:40 | |
My husband works in banking. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
People coming through, it is a very diverse group of people | 0:55:43 | 0:55:47 | |
and not that many British people, is it, really? | 0:55:47 | 0:55:51 | |
'In my days, China was still quite poor. | 0:55:57 | 0:56:01 | |
'In these 20 years, | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
'they will overtake America with being number one in the world.' | 0:56:03 | 0:56:07 | |
Is it funny to think that once, people used to always think, | 0:56:07 | 0:56:12 | |
-go to the West, go to England and America. -I know, | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
everyone go to the East now. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:17 | |
-How does that make you feel? -I think I'm very proud. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:20 | |
If I knew, I would change my British passport to a Chinese one. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:28 | |
It's quite relaxing, doing this. | 0:56:40 | 0:56:43 | |
Yeah, because he doesn't need to teach Matthew. | 0:56:43 | 0:56:46 | |
Monday to Friday, mainly maths. I'm so upset. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:50 | |
Every day, come home, the first thing he is doing, he does his garden. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:54 | |
He sees garden first and then sees Matthew. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:57 | |
For me, first thing, I need to sit down with him, do his homework. | 0:56:57 | 0:57:01 | |
I don't have time to see the garden. I'm different. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
-Steeve? -Yeah? -Who do you think is happier, you or Sally? | 0:57:04 | 0:57:09 | |
-Who do you think is...? -Happier. You or Sally? -Happier? Um... | 0:57:09 | 0:57:15 | |
-I don't know. I can't really answer. -You have a simple life. | 0:57:15 | 0:57:20 | |
After work, you just come to the garden. For me... | 0:57:20 | 0:57:23 | |
-I just take pleasure... -..I'm stressful. -..in small things, like doing this kind of thing or... | 0:57:23 | 0:57:29 | |
..or just being in the garden, breathing some fresh air. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:34 | |
-Not Matthew - don't care. -No... -Matthew is my priority. | 0:57:34 | 0:57:39 | |
So when Matthew is doing work, I'm happy. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:41 | |
When Matthew is not listening to me, don't do homework, I'm quite angry. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:45 | |
So, actually, my life is quite stressful. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:47 | |
Because for Steeve, he's quite simple, he's just doing his work - office - | 0:57:47 | 0:57:52 | |
and comes home, relax. | 0:57:52 | 0:57:54 | |
You don't really care about Matthew doing well or not. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:57 | |
For me, I'm a very nervous mum. I have to ask him every day... | 0:57:57 | 0:58:00 | |
But the thing is, you're already doing it, so there's no point in me getting involved. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:04 | |
No, if you do it, I don't want to do it. | 0:58:04 | 0:58:07 | |
You're pleased that your wife worries about it so much | 0:58:07 | 0:58:10 | |
-or do you wish she worried about it less? -Um... | 0:58:10 | 0:58:12 | |
Yeah, maybe a little bit less. I mean, what will happen will happen. | 0:58:15 | 0:58:19 | |
At the end of the day, I think it depends on Matthew's ability | 0:58:19 | 0:58:22 | |
and what he wants to do. | 0:58:22 | 0:58:25 | |
There's only so much you can push him, I guess, you know. | 0:58:25 | 0:58:30 | |
I mean, in future, he might go in a completely | 0:58:30 | 0:58:33 | |
different direction in life. We don't know, do we? | 0:58:33 | 0:58:36 | |
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