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We start school, teach Mandarin Chinese for our own kids.

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It's English school during the week, but we only use this on Sunday.

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The Chinese are very much on their education.

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The Western parents give the kids a lot of freedom,

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and the Chinese feel that they are not ready,

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and we have a very heavy discipline to our children as well.

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SPEAKS MANDARIN

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That's how we been brought up.

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As a Chinese parent, you never think your child can't achieve.

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You don't think that.

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You think, "OK, they can achieve from the very beginning,"

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and then they will with hard work.

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'The Chinese are doing better at GCSE than any other

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'ethnic group in the UK.

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-'They achieve far more A stars.'

-That's perfect.

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What's their secret?

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'And is there a price to pay?

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'We went back to the homes of some of the families from one London Chinese school

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'to find out.'

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If you want to be the best, you have to pay a lot of effort.

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Not everyone can be the best, surely?

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But we are Chinese, we have to be.

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BELL RINGS

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Hello, nice to meet you again.

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Nice to see you again. Which ones shall we...?

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You're very tall, so whatever you like.

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-Do you mind Chinese knitted shoes?

-That's OK.

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What's this?

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-The living room.

-The living room. What do you normally do here?

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-My work.

-Which one is your table for work?

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-Over there.

-Yeah.

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So, this is your... what you do every day. What's that?

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This is your timetable... every day, yeah?

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-Piano, Chinese writing, reading, English spelling.

-How about weekends?

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How about Sunday? Can you read for Hannah?

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Church, maths, Chinese school lessons, garden, play, football.

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Shower, TV cartoon, piano, contest results, dinner,

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English spelling, maths test, bedtime.

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-That's a Sunday?

-Yes, Sunday.

-Wow! How old are you, Matthew?

-Six.

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-That sounds like quite a lot.

-He starts from five years old.

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Before five, I let him play anything he wants, but from five,

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I think we need to let him start him get some kind of routine.

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Yeah. This is his spelling, 10 words.

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Impossible.

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Investigate.

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Instruction.

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SPEAKS MANDARIN

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I can't! I can't concentrate with that ice cream van...

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When ice cream van coming, he's not concentrate, he said.

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He wants to eat ice cream!

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Invitation.

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-Who's in charge of the household?

-Her, definitely.

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He say I'm too tough, but children need to be...

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You need to be tough, and you are too soft. If not, he won't listen to you.

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Because I know sometimes he's tired, but I say,

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"No, look, the timetable we haven't finished, you can't sleep."

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Important, all right. Imagine, all right. Impossible, all right. Investigate.

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Investigate, I-n-v-e-s-t-I-gate. Invest-I-gate.

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Two wrong - you need to write again next time.

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But for him, he only do about...I think, daytime,

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I'm talking about one hour, one and a half hours' homework,

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and when come back, do may be another one and a half hour.

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So, in total, one day, only about three hours.

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So, still plenty of time to play.

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Because we think it's quite important, especially now, you know,

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life is getting tougher and tougher,

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and you need proper skills to survive in the world.

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And also England, obviously...

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I mean,

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England is sort of going downhill in terms of league tables

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and pretty much everything else,

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so we need to compete with other countries as well.

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-Nathan, how was school?

-It was good.

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-Do you have everything, do you have all your homework?

-Yeah.

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What about the French...binder for the French oral?

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Yeah, I've brought that home.

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-And the maths test, right?

-Mm-hm.

-OK.

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Well, let's go home and...

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..get cracking.

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While Nathan's doing his piano or violin,

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Natalie is doing her homework, and then they switch.

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So do you fit anything else in after school work?

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Not really, there's no time.

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There's only really four good hours, maybe five good hours

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for them to get everything done.

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How do you squeeze it all in? It's really hard.

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You know what you're doing, right?

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'Vivian's son Nathan is 10, and her daughter Natalie is 6.'

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E minor.

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PLAYS SCALES

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Think about it. Before you play, you have to think about what you're playing, OK?

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And how many sharps there are

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and where your fingers are supposed to be before you just jump into it.

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Play it like it's one movement, not jerky like that.

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'As well as homework, Vivian supervises

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'three and a half hours' music practice each day.'

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Do it one more time before... We got to get it right.

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PLAYS NOTES

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Do that one again.

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PLAYS NOTES

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Again.

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Again, do that one again.

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No. That's not right. The thumb.

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The first time I did it...

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I know, the first time, you were OK, but it wasn't fast enough.

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Let's do it again.

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Where do you stand on praise?

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I was having this conversation with another mother,

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and we were all talking about the Asian way of encouragement,

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taking out the really good parts and focusing on that -

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it's either good or it's not.

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I'm from Taiwan - I'm made in Taiwan!

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Taiwan!

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Yes, I came England since 1998.

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I work as a facility management consultant.

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-I'm from Newcastle, originally.

-Geordie.

-Geordie boy.

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(Geordie man.)

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I look after this building.

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You can't find it?

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I'm the caretaker of the block, and I do maintenance and gardening.

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-Handyman work.

-Handyman work.

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-I'm going to do a quick job.

-OK.

-OK?

-Do a quick job.

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So what are your different roles in the house, then?

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He does most of the cleaning, cooking, look after the children!

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-Painting!

-No, don't do that, because then her clothes will be dirty.

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Can you please put that one on properly?

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What's it like, a Chinese Taiwanese lady married to a Geordie?

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What are you each like?

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-We're opposites.

-Very opposite. We are so different.

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I think, to start with, Taiwanese is a bit like Chinese -

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we're very careful about money, we don't take holiday much,

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and then, for Michael, the culture... he doesn't care too much,

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he's just thinking how much he earns, he just wants to spend it.

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He doesn't think about saving the money.

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That's the first thing we noticed.

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He likes to go out drinking, enjoy a few drinks with his friends,

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three or four times a week.

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Three or four times a week?!

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What about Kate?

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She's very strict and bossy.

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Bossy?!

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No, I have principles, let's put it that way.

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-You're a little bossy as well.

-I'm not.

-You're not a little bossy?

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I'm painting.

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I think Chinese parents give more guidance and rules,

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that's definitely.

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Parents got a little bit more ambitious, I think.

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They go and think about what they would like

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their children to become and how they want to behave.

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Western parents, I think they tend to be a little bit more relaxed,

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let them run wild.

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-Does he do play dates?

-Play dates?

-I don't know what that means.

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Playing with other children?

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Yes, sometimes a friend come here, or he goes to his home.

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-But not too often - maybe only...

-Two times a year.

-Yeah.

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Tell me what that certificate is for.

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It is for taking part in his school skipping, well,

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it's called skip-a-thon, in June 2010.

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-He skipped, apparently, how many times?

-Tell Hannah - one minute, how many times?

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128.

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128 times? Wow!

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Just to say...

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Do you keep all his certificates, then?

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Yeah! I keep them in a box, so he says this is his treasure box.

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So, when he's grown up, he can look back for what he done

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when he was little.

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You know this spelling, one-week test?

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Normally, he gets 10 out of 10.

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Yesterday, he got 9 out of 10.

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I know it's not too bad, but if I told him, "Oh, already very good, not too bad,"

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he will be thinking it's all right, but if I told him,

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"You have to be 10 out of 10," he will try harder next time.

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We're both education person.

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Of course, you know, I expect my son to go to university,

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maybe not need a Masters degree, but at least a Bachelor degree,

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doing well in his life.

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-Do you know what job you want to do, Matthew?

-Dentist.

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Because I'm working for a dental place,

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and his godfather, my boss, is a dentist.

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That's why he got this idea.

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When he was little, I did ask him what you want to be,

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and he said, "I want to be a binman."

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Binman is very fun, because every day,

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when I go to work, he's standing in the window, looking outside,

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and binman is very fun, he thought it was very interesting, good job.

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But one day, I told him binman is good, but you need to work very hard,

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and then no sleep, very tiring, quite low pay - what do you think?

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He said, "Hmm..." And after that, one day, I take to my boss's house.

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He said, "Wow, your boss got big house, lots of nice car,"

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because he likes to collect little car, and he said,

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"I've changed my mind - I want to earn more money,"

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so he says he wants to be a dentist.

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And you know, dentists need to have a good study, Yeah?

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-What are beginning to draw now?

-A peacock.

-A peacock?

-Yeah.

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-Looks like she might be arty.

-Will that be odd to you?

-Oh...!

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Well, artists don't make that much money, isn't it?

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Most of the time, they get famous after they are, you know, no longer exist.

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-Well, it doesn't matter.

-What do you imagine for Juliette?

-As in a job?

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-Yeah.

-When she grows older?

-Lawyer, doctor. No.

-No.

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Actually, one of the jobs I want her to do, and Michael says no,

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I want her to be a dentist.

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It's OK, you're still a doctor, you earn good money.

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To be honest, I'm not really that bothered what she does.

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You see, that's what's different.

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I got a view on what she supposed to be,

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but regardless on what she becomes or not, it's up to her.

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-As long as she's happy.

-That's OK.

-And not too stressed.

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And she has a happy life.

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But, you see, that's the other thing...I don't think stress is wrong, as well.

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I think in every single life, you need a bit of stress,

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a lot of pressure, then you can progress better.

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Otherwise... I said to Michael, otherwise, we are still apes.

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-Yes, switch on. About five to five.

-What are you doing now?

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Watch Arsenal game. Watch Arsenal - my favourite moment of our week.

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Weekday, Matthew, number one. Saturday, Sunday, Arsenal.

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Now I am nervous! With my Arsenal blanket.

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They're just about to start.

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Arsenal never give up.

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It's my passion, you know?

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-They don't win.

-I know they don't win, but what can you do?

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At least, you know...

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PLAYS PIANO

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Yes, I was born in Taiwan. My parents moved to Canada

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because they thought that it would be a better life for us.

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More opportunity, better education...in their minds.

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It was five of us in a one-bedroom apartment.

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They started off with a convenience store and then...

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-They had a flower shop.

-They had a flower shop.

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They gave up a lot for us,

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and so, there's a bit of guilt that, you know,

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as children, we carry around with us and we want to do our best,

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so we feel that what they sacrificed was worthwhile for them.

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I think the reason why, often, I push our children to do well

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at certain things is because, if they do well at it,

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I feel they'll be confident.

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It's the process of learning it, I think is really important.

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It's a good discipline.

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It teaches them that if they practise, if they work hard,

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they can really achieve something really beautiful and wonderful.

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You sure?

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Yeah, that he's professional, you know?

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So, they asked us to call you - you are naughty.

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No, he's professional, it's a one fixed price.

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That's for your health - it's not for clothes or shoes.

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Once you've seen doctor, you won't see him for many years.

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Yeah. You have to listen to us,

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it's 90 minutes. One hour is £200.

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Yeah, you are joking, you are coming, yeah?

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Don't let me down. You're joking!

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TALKS MANDARIN

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-So I introduce my boss, Mr Lee.

-Hi, there.

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-Hello, Mr Lee, nice to meet you.

-Hello.

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So, you've had Sally working with you for ages?

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Yes, since '93, so 18 years ago.

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Wow.

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She started to work here, full-time, and, yeah,

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she's been very good.

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What did you study, Sally?

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I studied in Canton. It's one quite famous university - Jinan University.

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Actually, my character is, I quite like talking, I like writing,

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I want to be a writer, or TV reporter, like you.

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I like to meet people, to chat,

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always talking to everyone, all the time.

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-Why didn't you do that?

-It's my parents' fault.

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That's why, my parents said, in order to have a good job,

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you need to be an accountant.

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Accountant - everywhere needs accountants.

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So, it's not really my wish, and plus, my maths is horrible.

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My parents said, "You have to be an accountant."

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I've studied for four years - waste!

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Why did you come to England?

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To study accountancy, because that's... Actually, I never...

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it's not something I...

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I never wanted to become an accountant.

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I didn't know what to do, actually.

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And my uncle recommended to me, "Why don't you go and study abroad?

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"Cos your maths is quite good, maybe suggest accountancy."

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My dad came to Mauritius from China when he was quite young,

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and he's had a shop. It's like a corner shop, really.

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My family are quite poor, you see,

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and couldn't afford to go to three years' university.

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Accountancy is a good thing - you only needed one year.

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-So, you got forced to study accountancy?

-I know.

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And I was an accountant for two years. But every time,

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when I look at the numbers in the computer, I always feel a headache.

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Do you know, last week, Hannah came to my house.

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Matthew said, "I want to be a dentist,

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"because I want to earn as much money as I can!"

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So he has changed his mind. He was going to be an accountant.

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-Shall I give you this first?

-Your last week's work was very, very good Matthew.

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Did you notice how well you did them last week? You see...

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-Lots of mistakes last time!

-No, that's absolutely fine.

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That's good, that's good. Every day, it's better.

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So, that's your maths, and that's your English.

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My friend recommend to me,

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she said all her friends or children all joined this centre,

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and it improved their study well.

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Because in state school, they don't have homework every single day,

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so it's good to give children some kind of work and routine.

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My parents always brainwashed us, we have two study hard.

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They are teachers in China, they are very strict.

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I thought it was quite normal to obey parents

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and to do what whatever they asked me to do.

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When I was six, my dad asked somebody to make a small violin for me,

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and then he even buy us a brand-new piano. 30 years ago,

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one piano maybe cost them over one year's wages,

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but they say they don't mind, they just sacrificed everything for us.

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This is...look, my timetable.

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I didn't know... You want to see?

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I didn't notice that earlier. 5.15, and I need to read one hour English.

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And then study, go to school, 7.20.

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Dinner, 6 to 6.30, and study from 7 to 10 o'clock.

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-Hi, Sally.

-Hello. How was Matthew today?

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Well, he did pretty well, but I noticed

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he still seems to forget how to carry forward.

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-OK, thank you.

-I shall see you...

-Next week, yeah.

-Take care. Bye!

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Goodbye! Thank you. See you next week.

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Matthew...

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You found it more difficult than last week?

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You need to practise more.

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B is no good! Yeah, two Bs.

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'Kate and Michael have brought their daughter Juliette over to visit her mother in Taiwan.'

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We are going to the temple... to the right.

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When you come to the temple, you have to bring food,

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to pray, like a present to the gods.

0:21:420:21:46

There's a god of study, a god of books.

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I was thinking, maybe I should do something like that for Juliette,

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because she hasn't got into school yet.

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Pray for her to get into a good school

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and she can have good exam results.

0:21:590:22:02

-Is that a burger?

-Ju-Ju? Ju-Ju?

0:22:080:22:11

My mum, me.

0:22:130:22:15

It's not like me.

0:22:150:22:19

My mum's really good - when we started school...

0:22:190:22:23

every day - check.

0:22:230:22:26

Checked my progress. Give feedback.

0:22:280:22:30

Yeah, random checks. Random exams at home.

0:22:330:22:37

-Really?

-Yeah. I remember. I know that.

-From what age?

0:22:370:22:41

About five.

0:22:480:22:49

She made sure we all studied so all three of us got Masters degrees.

0:22:490:22:55

Did your parents expect anything like...?

0:22:550:22:58

They expected you to go to school and come back from school.

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That was just the way parents were.

0:23:020:23:03

-Did your parents ever check your homework?

-No.

0:23:030:23:07

I probably didn't do my homework.

0:23:070:23:10

My mum disagreed.

0:23:100:23:12

When she go to school, she come back, I would check her homework, make sure everything's done.

0:23:120:23:15

I'd never let her go to school to say, "I haven't done my maths or English."

0:23:150:23:19

-I'm not going to do anything!

-You're not doing anything?

0:23:190:23:22

Well, then you're going to naughty chair all night.

0:23:220:23:27

I'll be testing you, Juliette, I'll be testing you.

0:23:270:23:30

Just like Mummy got tested when she was little.

0:23:300:23:33

-Can you show your room quickly?

-MY room? Oh, no!

0:23:330:23:37

-Your room from when you were little, yeah?

-No, no, no.

0:23:370:23:40

Nothing's changed.

0:23:400:23:43

No!

0:23:430:23:45

Come and see.

0:23:450:23:47

Pictures of Kate?

0:23:490:23:51

What was it you liked about Kate when you met her?

0:23:510:23:55

Quite a lot, really.

0:23:550:23:57

-What kind of stuff?

-Er...

0:23:570:24:00

-Asking us the wrong question now.

-What?

0:24:020:24:05

I just asked Michael what he liked about you when you met.

0:24:050:24:09

-This was what she looked like.

-No! Really?

-That's how I remember you.

0:24:090:24:13

Really?

0:24:130:24:16

-Were you allowed to have boyfriends when you were...?

-No.

0:24:160:24:18

Never let me have boyfriends.

0:24:180:24:21

Never ever.

0:24:210:24:22

-Really?

-Yeah, never.

0:24:220:24:26

Because the parents want you to study and not get distracted

0:24:260:24:30

with boy-, girlfriend business.

0:24:300:24:32

When was this taken?

0:24:320:24:34

Just a few years ago.

0:24:340:24:36

THEY LAUGH No.

0:24:360:24:38

You don't look that strait-laced and studious there.

0:24:380:24:43

Were you a rebel?

0:24:430:24:45

I'm the...

0:24:450:24:48

I'm the difficult, different one in the family.

0:24:480:24:52

Really?

0:24:520:24:54

Yeah. Cos I'm more outgoing compared to...

0:24:540:24:56

I'm not traditional, like very Chinese.

0:24:560:25:00

Parents expected girls to be very quiet and not allowed to talk a lot.

0:25:000:25:06

-What's the matter?

-So will you expect that of Juliette, do you think?

0:25:060:25:11

Are you going back to your roots, or will you let her be a rebel like you were?

0:25:110:25:16

I think I'll let her do whatever she...

0:25:160:25:18

She has to become who she is, so it doesn't matter.

0:25:180:25:21

-She will be a good little girl.

-She's fibbing a bit now.

0:25:210:25:25

-You mean, she'll have a bit more say in it?

-Yeah.

0:25:250:25:29

I don't think she's going to let Juliette be a bit of a rebel.

0:25:290:25:32

What do you mean?!

0:25:320:25:34

-Would you?

-Yeah. Probably.

0:25:340:25:37

Do your science. OK, go downstairs, let's go. BABY WHINES

0:25:420:25:48

We're just doing last-minute science homework before we leave,

0:25:480:25:52

rushing through it.

0:25:520:25:53

Vivian is taking Nathan to the Royal Festival Hall,

0:25:560:25:59

to see a performance by the world-famous Chinese pianist, Lang Lang.

0:25:590:26:04

Lang Lang had a notoriously tough upbringing.

0:26:040:26:07

I think Lang Lang is such a wonderful role model,

0:26:100:26:14

and I think he's great at inspiring young individuals,

0:26:140:26:18

because he's not only about being a fantastic performer,

0:26:180:26:21

he's about hard work, he's about having failed

0:26:210:26:26

but continue and succeeded afterwards.

0:26:260:26:29

-Why, what happened?

-He went to the Beijing Music Academy.

0:26:310:26:37

The teacher there "fired him", and told him he had no talent,

0:26:370:26:41

so his dad shouted at him, "Your life is over,

0:26:410:26:45

"you might as well just kill yourself, because you've nothing to live for!"

0:26:450:26:48

They both had to hang in there - and look at him now.

0:26:500:26:54

He's playful, he's... you know, a solid individual.

0:26:540:27:01

-Is it a common thing for him to be out like this?

-No.

0:27:050:27:11

-I never actually go out on...

-Not on weekdays.

0:27:110:27:16

As soon as we get home, it's music, it's homework, and...eating, bath...

0:27:160:27:23

-and then sleeping, right?

-Is that right?

-Mm-hm.

-Which is the best bit of all those?

0:27:230:27:28

Er, I'm not sure... Going to sleep!

0:27:280:27:31

How do you feel when your head finally hits the pillow?

0:27:320:27:35

-Oh... I feel relaxed.

-Do you wind down easily?

0:27:350:27:41

Not really. I don't usually fall asleep that fast.

0:27:410:27:46

But when I'm asleep, I don't usually wake up.

0:27:460:27:50

-Woo-hoo!

-Come in.

-Hi!

-How are you? He's a big fan!

0:28:170:28:23

-What are you playing now?

-I'm doing Grade 6 right now.

-On the piano.

0:28:230:28:28

-Really? Grade 6? And violin also?

-Yeah!

-Oh, my God.

0:28:280:28:34

So he has a very important question he wants to ask you.

0:28:340:28:37

It's a constant debate between us two.

0:28:370:28:40

How much do you practise a day?

0:28:400:28:43

It depends how old you are. When I was eight, I practised eight hours.

0:28:430:28:46

And now I'm getting older, I only practise two hours.

0:28:460:28:50

But today I did, like, four hours since I was playing.

0:28:500:28:54

-How old are you?

-Ten.

-So ten hours. No, I'm only joking!

0:28:540:28:58

-I'm just trying to scare you.

-That is scary.

-Four hours.

-Four hours? OK. See?

0:28:580:29:06

-You practise two hours, not too bad.

-One more - three is OK!

-Three!

0:29:060:29:12

When it gets tough, when you're really working and you're practising

0:29:150:29:20

and homework, do you ever doubt your approach and wonder is it worth it?

0:29:200:29:26

I never doubt because it's hard work,

0:29:260:29:29

because I think it's going to be hard work.

0:29:290:29:32

I doubt when I think my children are unhappy.

0:29:320:29:35

Like, if...if I'm pushing them and I say, "Do it again, do it again!"

0:29:350:29:40

and they say, "I can't do it!" and they start crying, then I doubt.

0:29:400:29:45

I think, "OK, am I hurting them emotionally somehow?"

0:29:450:29:51

That's when I doubt. But then, I think they can do it.

0:29:510:29:58

And I think, they're going to be able to do it.

0:29:580:30:03

If they just work hard, if they just do it one more time.

0:30:030:30:06

And I can't let them stop until they do it,

0:30:060:30:09

because then they'll learn to give up in the middle of things.

0:30:090:30:14

So I push them until they actually do it properly.

0:30:140:30:18

It doesn't have to be 100%,

0:30:180:30:21

as long as, in their minds, they think they've done it.

0:30:210:30:24

Amazing guy. He's very nice.

0:30:240:30:28

-Gave you good advice. Three hours!

-Yeah!

0:30:280:30:32

I wouldn't have the time. If I did that...

0:30:320:30:36

Learning the piano is going to be really difficult.

0:30:360:30:39

-Yeah. I'd stay up until 11 o'clock at night if I did three hours.

-True.

0:30:390:30:44

Maybe when you're 12, you could do three hours.

0:30:440:30:47

THEY LAUGH

0:30:470:30:48

You're going to have to practise to be like him.

0:30:480:30:52

How would you find it if one of them found it hard to achieve?

0:30:520:30:56

As a Chinese parent, you never think your child can't achieve.

0:30:560:31:00

You don't think that. You think, "OK, they can achieve," from the very beginning,

0:31:000:31:05

and then they will, with hard work. And that's what's going to happen.

0:31:050:31:09

And if it doesn't happen, it's because they just weren't interested in that area,

0:31:090:31:13

we find what they ARE interested in and they're interested in something else.

0:31:130:31:18

And they'll achieve it that. And they do.

0:31:180:31:20

Now it is 4.35 in the morning.

0:31:260:31:28

We are in Luton airport, we are off to Montpellier. Matthew is very happy,

0:31:280:31:35

because yesterday he won a competition of skipping.

0:31:350:31:39

So two years in a row, you are number one. And he bring the gold medal with him.

0:31:390:31:44

-Really?

-He will show you.

-Cool!

0:31:440:31:47

-Not more medals!

-Yes! He told me number one is the gold!

0:31:470:31:53

The plan is to, once we've landed, we'll find out where things are.

0:31:530:31:57

And then we're going on an excursion in the afternoon,

0:31:570:32:01

to visit a little village just to the north of Montpellier.

0:32:010:32:08

-Straight after you've got up at three in the morning?

-In the afternoon, yeah.

0:32:080:32:13

We won't waste time, because we only have 5 and a half days.

0:32:130:32:16

Very old houses. Matthew...

0:32:300:32:33

Where we are, I don't know. I don't know.

0:32:370:32:41

-He is complaining of hot already.

-You hitted me on my head.

-When?

0:32:410:32:47

-Like this.

-When?

-Just now.

-Sorry.

0:32:470:32:52

OK. I need to...move over.

0:32:540:32:58

Does somebody live there? No-one. It's empty.

0:32:580:33:04

-It's so hot.

-It's not hot.

0:33:040:33:07

You say you want to go on holiday, now you complain. Oh, dear.

0:33:070:33:13

He's bored, he says we are too slow.

0:33:130:33:16

It's not a competition.

0:33:160:33:20

Stop stopping, I said.

0:33:200:33:23

-Bad temper.

-Bad temper.

0:33:240:33:28

-Look at this church, look.

-Yeah.

0:33:280:33:32

Where are you, Matthew?

0:33:320:33:34

When you go on holiday, he say...not need a timetable...

0:33:340:33:40

It's a break from all his studies.

0:33:400:33:43

-He wish every day is a holiday, he said.

-Is it a break from his studies?

0:33:430:33:47

-Yeah.

-Slightly.

-But he needs to do homework every single day, still.

0:33:470:33:52

-Sometimes I feel sorry for him.

-Do you?

-Yeah. It's true.

0:33:520:33:57

Once a week, I definitely lose temper with him.

0:33:570:34:01

Because sometimes he's tired. He said, "I want to have a break today, I'm tired."

0:34:010:34:05

I say, "No, you haven't done this, you haven't done this. You have to sit down with me."

0:34:050:34:10

He gets upset, sometimes even cries.

0:34:100:34:12

But I say, "You have to do it." But afterwards...

0:34:120:34:15

-How are you? Do you feel the same?

-He says I'm too cruel to him.

-Me?

0:34:150:34:20

-Sometimes I think she pushes too hard.

-Yeah, but you need to be hard.

0:34:200:34:26

-Sometimes he ends up crying.

-Even when he cries, I say, "No, you can't go upstairs."

0:34:260:34:31

Something she gets angry and takes it out on me!

0:34:310:34:33

-I say, "What's the point?"

-Because I'm angry.

0:34:330:34:38

-Because every day, he doesn't do anything, he just watches TV.

-Of course.

0:34:380:34:42

-I need to teach him everything.

-That's why I try to go away. I go and watch TV upstairs.

0:34:420:34:48

-But I'm tired too, I'm working.

-Of course I understand.

0:34:480:34:53

I wasn't brought up strictly at all. I was the opposite.

0:34:530:34:57

My parents just let me do whatever.

0:34:570:35:00

-And you turned out all right.

-Yeah, I mean, when I did my...

-He's lucky.

0:35:000:35:04

How many children are lucky, that don't study and go to university?

0:35:040:35:09

-I don't believe that.

-That's true.

-His character, he's very quiet.

0:35:090:35:13

Because you were born many years ago, you are quiet.

0:35:130:35:17

But in this day, so many TV, so many games.

0:35:170:35:20

-A lot more distractions now, of course.

-They don't want to study, they want to play and watch TV.

0:35:200:35:24

You need to teach them a bit of discipline. Not very strict, but you know what I mean.

0:35:240:35:29

You have to understand how to organise their time

0:35:290:35:33

and be disciplined.

0:35:330:35:35

Without discipline, what can you achieve?

0:35:350:35:39

Finished? Let me check.

0:35:480:35:52

This one is fine. This one is fine.

0:35:520:35:56

Oh, this one is wrong. This one is wrong.

0:35:560:35:59

No, this is wrong. Be careful.

0:36:000:36:03

We don't want things wrong.

0:36:030:36:05

Wow! That's funny.

0:36:050:36:10

-SQUEALS

-Be quiet!

-Oh, my God.

-Oh, yeah.

0:36:100:36:15

Watch me, watch me! Matthew, watch me!

0:36:150:36:19

-He's a clever horse, look!

-Yeah!

0:36:210:36:23

Did you have much fun when you were a child?

0:36:300:36:34

No, because we were not allowed to go on any holidays.

0:36:340:36:38

They said holidays are a waste of time. So he's lucky.

0:36:380:36:42

He's already been to many countries, many places.

0:36:420:36:47

I always envied the other children who had a lot of freedom.

0:36:470:36:51

When I was young, I was angry about that. And that's why I ran away from all my family.

0:36:510:36:55

After university, I told myself, I'm not going home.

0:36:550:36:58

Even after I was a student, I still needed to write a diary

0:37:050:37:09

every single day, and I needed to send it back to my parents.

0:37:090:37:13

When I was at university, I wrote two diaries - one for my mum, one for myself.

0:37:130:37:17

-Have you got them there?

-Yeah, I've got them.

-Did you have boyfriends?

0:37:170:37:21

-Yeah. I had a lot of boyfriends!

-Where you allowed?

-No!

0:37:210:37:26

When I was at home, not allowed, but after university, my mum didn't know.

0:37:260:37:31

-Yeah. When I was 18, I said I had my first boyfriend.

-How was that?

0:37:340:37:38

It was good. Because I never had anyone before. I was quite lonely.

0:37:380:37:43

Now I felt someone looked after me well, and kind to me. I'm so happy.

0:37:430:37:49

To be honest, I didn't have a very happy childhood.

0:37:520:37:55

Every day was like prison for me, I think at the time.

0:37:550:37:59

-Do you worry that Matthew doesn't get enough time playing?

-No.

0:37:590:38:04

I'm very relaxed about his time playing.

0:38:040:38:07

He gets a lot of time playing already.

0:38:070:38:10

That's why he doesn't like me too much, he likes his dad,

0:38:100:38:14

because Dad doesn't ask him to do whatever.

0:38:140:38:18

I don't think he hates me. I don't know.

0:38:180:38:21

Do you ever worry, though, that he might start to rebel against you?

0:38:210:38:25

A little bit worried. Because he's still quite a young age.

0:38:250:38:30

I was raised up by my grandparents from when I was born up to age two.

0:38:390:38:43

And that's when I came to the rice field.

0:38:430:38:47

I can't imagine I would live this kind of life,

0:38:470:38:50

so I can understand why my parents got out of this kind of living style.

0:38:500:38:57

It's too hard. Imagine some things in the weather, and also things happen.

0:38:570:39:03

They probably won't even harvest the rice twice a year. So it means the whole family will starve.

0:39:030:39:09

It influenced my mum, because my mum told me I don't want to work as a farmer,

0:39:100:39:16

to make sure we study hard.

0:39:160:39:18

So, obviously, when we were kids, we missed out a bit more of fun time.

0:39:210:39:27

But I don't feel regret, because, in a way, I gained more.

0:39:270:39:32

What's your favourite thing to be doing with Juliette when you come here?

0:39:340:39:39

Probably swimming and...

0:39:390:39:42

..I just generally get more time to play with her.

0:39:430:39:46

-Do you do a lot of playing with her?

-Yeah, all the time.

0:39:460:39:49

When you became a parent, did you know what to expect...?

0:39:490:39:54

-No, it was all a learning process.

-Really?

-Yeah.

0:39:540:39:57

-I think it is with every parent, isn't it?

-How have you found it?

0:39:570:40:01

Better or worse than you expected?

0:40:010:40:04

Definitely better than I expected.

0:40:040:40:07

I didn't want children for a long time.

0:40:070:40:09

But then... it just changes things, doesn't it?

0:40:110:40:15

You see a different aspect of life.

0:40:150:40:19

What was it particularly that you've liked that you didn't expect?

0:40:190:40:24

More emotional feelings. Just love towards your child, I suppose.

0:40:260:40:32

You smile more.

0:40:330:40:35

It's just a good feeling.

0:40:360:40:38

When I came to England and met my husband, Michael,

0:40:400:40:44

we talked about our childhood and realised he had loads of fun times,

0:40:440:40:48

he had loads of riding a bike and didn't spend much time doing homework.

0:40:480:40:53

I want her to have a little bit more childhood than I had.

0:40:530:40:57

But I want her to be aware you can't just play.

0:40:570:41:03

You need to work hard and study hard.

0:41:030:41:06

It's reality. Here, in Taiwan, we don't have a safety net.

0:41:070:41:12

Literally, you have to work hard, save money, and prepare for one day

0:41:120:41:18

when you won't be able to work any more, and you don't know when.

0:41:180:41:23

You don't know what things will happen.

0:41:230:41:25

But in England, it's different. That makes lots of difference.

0:41:250:41:30

I think that's why we have more drive,

0:41:300:41:33

because we need to make sure, we need to make sure we still have a life.

0:41:330:41:38

You see, living in a western country, you see the other western parents and how they do things.

0:41:380:41:44

Especially when the dad's English, it's difficult.

0:41:440:41:47

It's difficult to balance between...

0:41:470:41:49

but I'm pretty sure Michael agrees with me with certain elements.

0:41:490:41:53

To be a tiger mum, there's nothing wrong about it.

0:41:530:41:57

It's to prepare for the future.

0:41:570:42:00

Because no pain, no gain.

0:42:000:42:02

What do you think of doing all this work?

0:42:130:42:16

-Hard.

-Is it?

0:42:160:42:19

-How do you feel when you're sitting here doing the work?

-Tired.

0:42:190:42:23

-There's this times table thing. And Chinese and the diary.

-Diary?

0:42:230:42:30

-You do a diary?

-Yeah.

-Can you tell me what you've written in it yesterday?

0:42:300:42:35

Let's see what you've written.

0:42:350:42:38

-What's in that one?

-"My mum doesn't have good enough manners.

0:42:420:42:47

"She always shouts at me, 'Do your homework!' "

0:42:470:42:50

Who did the red pen on that page?

0:42:520:42:55

My mum.

0:42:550:42:56

Cos I didn't know how to spell "manners".

0:42:560:42:59

Today is Matthew's birthday. The family have planned

0:43:020:43:05

a special outing for the evening.

0:43:050:43:08

Hello, Matthew.

0:43:090:43:10

Are you ready to go? Are you excited?

0:43:120:43:16

-Have you opened your presents yet?

-No.

-You haven't?

0:43:160:43:19

-Have you done your homework, Matthew, today?

-Yeah.

-All done?

-Yes.

0:43:220:43:27

But they're not done. Oh, they are all done. All right.

0:43:270:43:33

What were you like as a child?

0:43:330:43:35

I remember I lacked a lot of confidence.

0:43:370:43:40

I had a very low self-esteem, that's all I remember.

0:43:400:43:43

'I remember struggling at school, because I couldn't understand what the teacher was telling me.'

0:43:430:43:48

Good, good.

0:43:480:43:50

I remember, one day, the teacher sort of asked me

0:43:500:43:55

to come in front of the class and he made fun out of me.

0:43:550:43:58

That was really embarrassing. I remember this day very well.

0:43:580:44:01

So I don't want him to go through these kind of things again.

0:44:010:44:05

So I try to help him as much as I can.

0:44:050:44:08

Yeah, very good. Only one mistake, that's good. Much better than before.

0:44:090:44:13

So he didn't skip a day for his birthday, with his homework?

0:44:130:44:17

No, you have to do it every day, don't you?

0:44:170:44:21

Sometimes, when you go on holiday, you do two or three in one day.

0:44:210:44:25

And then you can have the other day off.

0:44:250:44:27

I know you're not supposed to do that, but...

0:44:270:44:30

Sometimes, when you go on holiday, you go out and you don't come back until late.

0:44:300:44:35

-There's no time to do the homework.

-There are the neighbours.

0:44:350:44:38

Yeah. The two little girls.

0:44:380:44:40

-Do you play with them?

-Sometimes.

0:44:400:44:44

Have you met them recently? Those two little girls. Where? Over the fence?

0:44:440:44:50

-Yeah.

-You talked to her today?

-Yeah. No.

-When was the last time?

0:44:500:44:54

-On the weekend.

-Oh, weekend. What, last weekend?

-Yeah.

0:44:540:44:59

-Yeah, sometimes, he just talks to them.

-Once, I went to their house.

0:44:590:45:04

-You went to their house?

-Yeah.

-Who took you there?

0:45:040:45:08

Mummy said... My mum said...

0:45:080:45:10

-Mummy said.

-When? When did you go to their house?

0:45:100:45:14

-I forgot.

-You forgot.

0:45:140:45:16

Why, would he not normally do something like that?

0:45:160:45:19

No. I mean, I know he went into their garden once, but not in their house.

0:45:190:45:23

-I went into their house.

-Into their house as well? Oh, OK.

0:45:230:45:28

-What have you done today?

-Chinese.

-Chinese.

0:45:320:45:35

How many mistakes? Did Daddy already check your work? How many mistakes?

0:45:350:45:40

-One.

-One! There should be no mistakes. One?

0:45:400:45:45

-OK, have you opened your presents?

-No.

-The big one is from your father.

0:45:450:45:51

-Your best friend.

-Toa.

-Toa. Yeah, your role model.

0:45:510:45:55

Both of them fighting for number one space in school.

0:45:550:45:58

A new Transformers.

0:45:580:46:01

-Transformers. >

-I know that.

0:46:010:46:05

Do you see yourself in Matthew?

0:46:050:46:07

-Do I see myself in Matthew? Erm...

-In how he is?

0:46:070:46:11

Mm... It's, erm... No, he's erm... He's...

0:46:110:46:17

I'm... I was much shyer than him, you know. Erm...

0:46:170:46:23

I don't know, it's just the way things were.

0:46:230:46:26

Is it nice to see him not as shy as you were? Do you like that?

0:46:290:46:32

Yeah, I think so, because these days, you need social skills,

0:46:320:46:35

emotional intelligence, which I've read about, so it's quite important.

0:46:350:46:40

Otherwise, you struggle in life if you can't get on with all the people.

0:46:400:46:45

You do need that, and this is something I think my parents never sort of...

0:46:450:46:50

er, taught me, really. I mean, I'd don't blame them. Things were what they were.

0:46:500:46:56

They didn't know anything apart from working hard to put food on the table.

0:46:560:47:01

For me, I was too much into my own world.

0:47:010:47:03

I didn't know the outside world at all.

0:47:030:47:05

I didn't know how to communicate with people outside.

0:47:050:47:09

I was a very quiet person.

0:47:090:47:11

I still am, in many ways, but I understand now how the world works.

0:47:110:47:18

So, yeah, I want him to have a broader horizon.

0:47:180:47:21

'It's quite important, I think.

0:47:210:47:23

'Hopefully, he will be much more confident than me.'

0:47:230:47:26

Better not come here!

0:47:260:47:29

Did you expect to meet someone as lively and extrovert as Sally is?

0:47:340:47:39

No, not really, no. I wasn't expecting anything, you know.

0:47:390:47:45

But, yeah, when I met her, I thought, "Yeah, she's a nice person."

0:47:450:47:51

It's not her academic qualifications,

0:47:510:47:54

more her social skills that sort of stand out, you know.

0:47:540:47:59

-All those years of education.

-Education, yeah.

0:47:590:48:02

I wouldn't say it's gone down the drain, but, actually, her skill is her talking, I suppose.

0:48:020:48:07

-Yeah.

-It's her social skills.

0:48:070:48:11

THEY SPEAK MANDARIN

0:48:140:48:18

Does that make you wonder about the virtue of pushing kids academically?

0:48:180:48:22

Yeah, I think so. There's only so much you can push a child, isn't it?

0:48:220:48:28

Let's go!

0:48:340:48:36

Juliette! Juliette!

0:48:400:48:42

-So, what's the news?

-What's the news? Juliette!

-What news?

0:48:420:48:48

-You got big school.

-I got big school!

0:48:480:48:51

-You're going to the school, aren't you?

-Yes! big school, big school.

0:48:510:48:55

-Big school!

-Yes, that is good news.

0:48:550:48:58

We came back from Taiwan and we had the neighbours check the post.

0:48:580:49:02

-Yeah, the whole month.

-And the day after we get back, it was in the post.

0:49:020:49:08

-How strange is that?

-We were quite worried.

-Mummy, I'm nearly grown up.

0:49:080:49:13

I'm nearly four.

0:49:130:49:15

She's ready to learn, academically.

0:49:150:49:18

When you go to Taiwan and you see other kids of a certain age

0:49:180:49:22

already can do maths, reading, that sort of stuff, which is not

0:49:220:49:26

that much different to her age, it made me think, she's capable.

0:49:260:49:31

And plus, I think it's quite important that we start to let her

0:49:310:49:35

to explore music lessons or tennis lessons.

0:49:350:49:39

I want her to do at least one musical instrument,

0:49:390:49:43

one class a week, and Chinese, yeah?

0:49:430:49:47

-And one sport. I want her to start in September.

-I think it's a bit early, to be honest.

0:49:470:49:53

No! I learned piano when I was three.

0:49:530:49:56

I could read by three. Already.

0:49:560:50:01

I think it's really slow for her, compared to what I used to do.

0:50:010:50:05

Hi, there. This is Vivian, Nathan's mother.

0:50:060:50:10

I just wanted to schedule an appointment with the headmaster

0:50:100:50:13

to discuss about schools for Nathan.

0:50:130:50:18

You know, he does well in school at the moment.

0:50:180:50:22

Two good schools for Nathan might be Westminster, Eton.

0:50:220:50:28

We went to see the schools, we loved it.

0:50:280:50:32

And they have just all the right things that Nathan would love.

0:50:320:50:37

So, for the test Nathan has,

0:50:370:50:40

I take all his notes and I actually create a practice test for him

0:50:400:50:44

so he can do it, write it out over and over again.

0:50:440:50:47

This one was 14 pages.

0:50:470:50:49

He must be quite well prepared, academically.

0:50:490:50:53

I think he is. But you can always do more, right?

0:50:530:50:57

You can't be too sure.

0:50:570:51:00

I mean, everybody else is preparing for it.

0:51:000:51:04

There's the first page...

0:51:040:51:05

It IS stressful. I think we just work on that stress level.

0:51:050:51:10

One of the things is that someone might say, watching, they might say,

0:51:100:51:15

"Why not just let them be happy and you'll be happy cos you'll just be relaxing?"

0:51:150:51:20

But will they be really happy,

0:51:200:51:22

doing nothing?

0:51:220:51:24

OK, let them watch TV, because they think they want to watch TV the whole day.

0:51:240:51:28

I mean, that's what happened with me one summer, and I was bored.

0:51:280:51:31

I kept thinking, "This is not happiness!"

0:51:310:51:35

Basically, I don't really know what that means,

0:51:350:51:39

when you say, "Why can't you just let them be happy?"

0:51:390:51:42

If you give me a specific example...

0:51:420:51:46

I suppose...

0:51:460:51:49

Being romantic with some guy, like, you're a teenager

0:51:490:51:52

and you're having... You're going on dates with some guy, initial romantic phase,

0:51:520:51:57

honeymoon, that's what they say, the honeymoon phase of a relationship, well,

0:51:570:52:01

OK, you're happy all the time for that week or that month.

0:52:010:52:06

But then you've got to get down to reality.

0:52:060:52:10

There's lots of stuff to do, and everybody has to work, right?

0:52:100:52:15

SHE SPEAKS MANDARIN

0:52:180:52:22

-..England flag, no?

-Boring.

0:52:220:52:24

When he's doing a lot of good things, maybe once a month,

0:52:240:52:28

he can get one car.

0:52:280:52:29

But I tend not to spoil him too much.

0:52:290:52:32

They have to know, in your life, nothing is granted for free.

0:52:320:52:38

-Tell Hannah, yesterday, who is number one in the class?

-Me.

0:52:380:52:42

Yeah? How many points you got?

0:52:420:52:44

-25.

-25 points?

-Altogether.

-Altogether?

0:52:440:52:48

So, now, you are number one, yeah?

0:52:480:52:50

Who wants to be number one - you or him?

0:52:510:52:56

-Who? Me, Mummy?

-You!

0:52:560:52:58

-Yeah? But how about you? You don't want number one?

-No.

0:52:580:53:03

I like second.

0:53:030:53:05

-Oh, my God!

-Like Arsenal.

0:53:050:53:07

Do you understand why some people in England would think,

0:53:070:53:11

wow, a Chinese upbringing is mad?

0:53:110:53:14

Mmm, for me, I get used to...

0:53:140:53:17

But I think, in these days, China's children are still the same.

0:53:170:53:21

Chinese people get used to it.

0:53:210:53:23

We get used to hard working, study hard.

0:53:230:53:27

For me, I think it is built in.

0:53:270:53:29

Once you get used to it, you don't feel it too hard.

0:53:290:53:33

In my parent's dictionary, you have to use 99% of your time to study,

0:53:330:53:37

1% time to enjoy your life and play less.

0:53:370:53:41

-That's what they believe.

-Do you?

0:53:410:53:44

For me, maybe I would believe 80% study hard, 20% play.

0:53:440:53:50

How about 50% working,

0:53:500:53:53

50% enjoying?

0:53:530:53:56

Mmm, I don't believe that. If you want...

0:53:560:53:59

We have to say, if you want to be number one, or you want to be the best,

0:53:590:54:04

you have two pay a lot of effort.

0:54:040:54:07

-You can't be lazy.

-Not everyone can be the best, surely?

-But we are Chinese, we have to be.

0:54:070:54:12

Help me, help me.

0:54:160:54:17

At the Chinese Sunday School,

0:54:170:54:19

it's time for the Dragon Boat Festival,

0:54:190:54:21

a chance for all the families whose children attend Mandarin lessons to get together.

0:54:210:54:28

We are originally from Poland. We arrived in the UK six years ago.

0:54:280:54:32

She eagerly attends all the classes,

0:54:320:54:35

and we also do some private lessons as well, just to speed up the process.

0:54:350:54:40

It was first my wife's idea,

0:54:400:54:43

knowing that Chinese has a large impact on the world,

0:54:430:54:47

in all aspects, at the moment.

0:54:470:54:49

They convert to Chinese.

0:54:490:54:51

We are from India, originally.

0:54:510:54:53

So, for about six months now, he has been learning Chinese.

0:54:530:54:56

He's got a typing competition today at 12.30 and he's been practising hard for that.

0:54:560:55:00

So, he's been practising typing in what language?

0:55:000:55:03

-In Chinese and Mandarin.

-Wow!

-Yeah.

0:55:030:55:06

We're both from the UK. And looking at the way the global economy was going

0:55:060:55:12

and thinking, actually, Chinese is a really good language to learn.

0:55:120:55:16

There's not many British people in the school.

0:55:160:55:19

No, not at all.

0:55:190:55:20

England and, to a certain extent, a lot of Western Europe

0:55:200:55:24

have a belief that they have run the world economy for 200 odd years and therefore,

0:55:240:55:29

they and the Americans will continue to do so.

0:55:290:55:32

There's an energy and a drive.

0:55:320:55:34

You see this from the Chinese style of parenting, and I think it sets them up very well for the future.

0:55:340:55:40

My husband works in banking.

0:55:400:55:43

People coming through, it is a very diverse group of people

0:55:430:55:47

and not that many British people, is it, really?

0:55:470:55:51

'In my days, China was still quite poor.

0:55:570:56:01

'In these 20 years,

0:56:010:56:03

'they will overtake America with being number one in the world.'

0:56:030:56:07

Is it funny to think that once, people used to always think,

0:56:070:56:12

-go to the West, go to England and America.

-I know,

0:56:120:56:15

everyone go to the East now.

0:56:150:56:17

-How does that make you feel?

-I think I'm very proud.

0:56:170:56:20

If I knew, I would change my British passport to a Chinese one.

0:56:230:56:28

It's quite relaxing, doing this.

0:56:400:56:43

Yeah, because he doesn't need to teach Matthew.

0:56:430:56:46

Monday to Friday, mainly maths. I'm so upset.

0:56:460:56:50

Every day, come home, the first thing he is doing, he does his garden.

0:56:500:56:54

He sees garden first and then sees Matthew.

0:56:540:56:57

For me, first thing, I need to sit down with him, do his homework.

0:56:570:57:01

I don't have time to see the garden. I'm different.

0:57:010:57:04

-Steeve?

-Yeah?

-Who do you think is happier, you or Sally?

0:57:040:57:09

-Who do you think is...?

-Happier. You or Sally?

-Happier? Um...

0:57:090:57:15

-I don't know. I can't really answer.

-You have a simple life.

0:57:150:57:20

After work, you just come to the garden. For me...

0:57:200:57:23

-I just take pleasure...

-..I'm stressful.

-..in small things, like doing this kind of thing or...

0:57:230:57:29

..or just being in the garden, breathing some fresh air.

0:57:300:57:34

-Not Matthew - don't care.

-No...

-Matthew is my priority.

0:57:340:57:39

So when Matthew is doing work, I'm happy.

0:57:390:57:41

When Matthew is not listening to me, don't do homework, I'm quite angry.

0:57:410:57:45

So, actually, my life is quite stressful.

0:57:450:57:47

Because for Steeve, he's quite simple, he's just doing his work - office -

0:57:470:57:52

and comes home, relax.

0:57:520:57:54

You don't really care about Matthew doing well or not.

0:57:540:57:57

For me, I'm a very nervous mum. I have to ask him every day...

0:57:570:58:00

But the thing is, you're already doing it, so there's no point in me getting involved.

0:58:000:58:04

No, if you do it, I don't want to do it.

0:58:040:58:07

You're pleased that your wife worries about it so much

0:58:070:58:10

-or do you wish she worried about it less?

-Um...

0:58:100:58:12

Yeah, maybe a little bit less. I mean, what will happen will happen.

0:58:150:58:19

At the end of the day, I think it depends on Matthew's ability

0:58:190:58:22

and what he wants to do.

0:58:220:58:25

There's only so much you can push him, I guess, you know.

0:58:250:58:30

I mean, in future, he might go in a completely

0:58:300:58:33

different direction in life. We don't know, do we?

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